WEBVTT - BONUS: Murder at Pinetree Country Club

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, I'm John Gonzalez, host of Sports Illustrated Weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try something just a little bit different this

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<v Speaker 1>week with a special audio version of Brian byrd sayds

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<v Speaker 1>s I dot com Daily cover. Please enjoy this standalone

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<v Speaker 1>bonus show, Murder at Pine Tree Country Club. The reality

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<v Speaker 1>of it sets in when I'm at home. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to give the boys bath and then we'll by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend not here and their daddy's not here.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like daddy went to work and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad man at daddy's work, and that batman had

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. Last summer, a forty six year old golf

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<v Speaker 1>pro was murdered under mysterious circumstances. Gene Siller was shot

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<v Speaker 1>on the tenth whole of the Pine Tree Country Club

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia. We had to turn Jean over to start

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<v Speaker 1>CPR on him. It was a horrible, horrible thing to

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<v Speaker 1>come up to. The depth of your love determines the

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<v Speaker 1>depth of your grief. The depth of my loved rand

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<v Speaker 1>was so deep that I don't think I'll ever recover.

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<v Speaker 1>The story made headlines at the time, but no story

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<v Speaker 1>has gone as deep as a new piece written by

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Byrne, said, a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated. In it,

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<v Speaker 1>he digs into hugiene, what's the random and unlikely set

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<v Speaker 1>of events that nevertheless led to him being murdered in

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<v Speaker 1>broad daylight? And the family Siller sadly left behind? All Right, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into how and why Jeane Siller was murdered,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about who he was. He was someone who

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<v Speaker 1>devoted his life to his family and to the sport

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<v Speaker 1>that he loved. He grew up in northwest Cincinnati. He

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<v Speaker 1>had two sisters, loved out the outdoors, loved playing golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he was certified to be a head pro, he

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<v Speaker 1>spent some time in Atlanta. He moved south. There's more

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<v Speaker 1>courses you can play and work year round. He stopped

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<v Speaker 1>at a couple of courses for more than a decade

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<v Speaker 1>as an assistant pro. He had a brief head pro

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<v Speaker 1>job that was just a real grind and didn't love

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<v Speaker 1>it and wound up leaving that job when that club

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<v Speaker 1>got sold. No respect for him, no respect for his family.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was in at sixth and digged home

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<v Speaker 1>to like eight. I mean they were It was like

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<v Speaker 1>borderline of emotion. All abuse by that point, he was

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<v Speaker 1>already married to his wife, Ashley, and they had two boys,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of a stay at home dad

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<v Speaker 1>for a time, and Ashley was supporting them and they

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<v Speaker 1>were in a really happy spot because he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>those eight hour work weeks anymore. But she to tell

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<v Speaker 1>there was a void in him, something was missing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was fortunate enough to get a call from the

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<v Speaker 1>general manager at Pine Tree Country Club, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>northwest Atlanta, a little town called Kennesaw on the suburbs,

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<v Speaker 1>uh someone who had interviewed him for a previous job.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Nikam called and said, Hey, we need a head

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<v Speaker 1>golf pro. Would you be interested. He had a good reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>it was smart, and it was a family man. I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew he was confident. He couldn't resist. He needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go back out and be outdoors, working with the

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<v Speaker 1>sport he loved and applying an engineer's mind to improving

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<v Speaker 1>the club for its members. And in your piece the

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<v Speaker 1>way you write about it, and having talked to Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like Jean really loved this job right. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like some of the other ones that you said

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<v Speaker 1>previously that he wasn't crazy about this one. He was

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<v Speaker 1>really into that's right. He he finally had found a

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<v Speaker 1>place where he could scratch his professional itch and do

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<v Speaker 1>what he loved. But it wasn't that long slog. It

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<v Speaker 1>was good for their marriage. He was my amazing, big hearted,

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<v Speaker 1>hard working husband. Again. They gave him two days off

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<v Speaker 1>a week, even in the high season. He got Sundays

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<v Speaker 1>and Mondays off, so he was able to play grounds

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<v Speaker 1>of golf with the boys on the weekends, work around

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<v Speaker 1>the house, keep the yard in shape for Ashley while

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<v Speaker 1>she was at work on Monday's, really devote himself to

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<v Speaker 1>his family and to his job simultaneously. We were so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to be together as a family. Our marriage just

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<v Speaker 1>like flourished the last two years. It was just it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't perfect, but it was pretty damn clothes. So things

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<v Speaker 1>are going well at home, they're going well at work.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we go back to last summer. Tell us, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened on July three. I'll take you back

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<v Speaker 1>one day before that, July two, Gene and Ashley and

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<v Speaker 1>the boys were driving back from a beach vacation they'd

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<v Speaker 1>had with Jean's family, his parents, his sisters, their spouses,

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<v Speaker 1>and kids, big happy family gathering. They've done one every year,

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<v Speaker 1>but COVID had delayed it for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was their first one in a while, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a really happy week, all of them reunited.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was happy. I specifically remember saying, like, God, life

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<v Speaker 1>so good. We're like, life is so what. Our kids

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<v Speaker 1>are healthy, Like, we're doing all this cool stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>our house or were plans to Ginea and Ashley were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about July the third. Jeans still had off after

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<v Speaker 1>that vacation, but it was a big day at the club.

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<v Speaker 1>July three was that Saturday, so they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>have their July four celebration there and the fireworks and

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<v Speaker 1>the cook out and all that, and Jean had a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of younger staffers. He knew that would be there

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<v Speaker 1>that day and knew it would be busy, and felt

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guilty. You know, I've been gone. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go there and help him and be there for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just who he was. He's like, are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you cool with that? I said, yeah, just we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to the fireworks. Please be home by six thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, of course, of course, that's what I'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got up that morning and was dressed up,

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<v Speaker 1>dressed to the nines as always in his golf attire,

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<v Speaker 1>had on red pants and an American flag shirt. And

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<v Speaker 1>Nashley told me over and over how handsome she thought

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<v Speaker 1>he looked that day. I remember making making breakfast for

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<v Speaker 1>the boys and they're up and they're in their p

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<v Speaker 1>days and he comes down and he's like these right

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<v Speaker 1>red pants on. We called him Mr Fancy Pants. I

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<v Speaker 1>look you was your fancy pist And off the work

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<v Speaker 1>he went, strolled in at nine and uh, seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be having just a normal day. And then a white

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<v Speaker 1>pickup truck showed up on the tenth tenth green that day.

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<v Speaker 1>So why was there a white pickup truck on the green?

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened afterwards? The court cases ongoing, but in

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<v Speaker 1>general terms is that two men are alleged to have

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<v Speaker 1>abducted two others that were in the back of that truck.

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<v Speaker 1>They were bound with duct tape and zip ties. It's

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<v Speaker 1>alleged by some people that we spoke with to have

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<v Speaker 1>have been tied to the drug trade. A few of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are said to be involved have had

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<v Speaker 1>criminal histories in the drug trade. They have these men

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<v Speaker 1>tied up in the back of the truck. They drive

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere around forty miles from where they are alleged to

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<v Speaker 1>have kidnapped them, and they wind up on a street.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dead end street that is bisected by the

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<v Speaker 1>cart path that runs from Pine Trees Tenth Green too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eleventh t and you can easily jump onto the

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<v Speaker 1>course from that street. When you're looking down, all you

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<v Speaker 1>really see is a lake. So it appeared again this

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<v Speaker 1>is all alleged that the men were looking to murder

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<v Speaker 1>these two men in the back and disposed of the

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<v Speaker 1>bodies in the lake. So they were alleged to have

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<v Speaker 1>killed the two men in the back. Paul Pierson and

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Valdez shot them there at the site and then

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<v Speaker 1>tried to It appeared at least one of the men

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<v Speaker 1>had pulled the trigger, had tried to maroon the truck hide.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oven said, that's at least what it appeared was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's two bunkers that guard the right side of

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<v Speaker 1>the green, and one of that front bunker caught the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>The front wheels came up, couldn't go anywhere, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now you look out and there's a truck stuck out

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<v Speaker 1>on that tenth green in the middle of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>two pm on a Saturday, July three, at a busy

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. So Jeane looks out the middle of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>busy golf course, sees this truck. What happens. One of

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<v Speaker 1>his assistant pros, Harris and Bryant, was in the pro

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<v Speaker 1>shop that day, and it's got a big expansive view

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<v Speaker 1>out to the driving range and the tenth green is

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<v Speaker 1>visible from the clubhouse, and he saw it. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell what was going on, answered the call, and then

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<v Speaker 1>saw it really actually out on the course from where

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<v Speaker 1>it had been, and then told Jean about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jean said, okay, I'll go investigate. Oftentimes, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people I talked to at the club they said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that happens in golf, will you'll have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's kids out there in the course, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers up to no good. My other thought was somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had seizure, hardtack, or somebody got super drunk early on

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<v Speaker 1>the points in July weekend. You don't assume it's something

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<v Speaker 1>to furious, but you got to go talk to him,

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<v Speaker 1>get him out, even off for help. They thought, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, someone must have had a car accident broken down,

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<v Speaker 1>or that's the logical explanation in a scenario like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jean hops in a golf cart, drives up the

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<v Speaker 1>cart path that straddles the left side of the tenth fairway,

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<v Speaker 1>and then gets to the green, and that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged shooter, Brian Roden, is alleged to have shot him

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<v Speaker 1>twice and killed him instantly. So Jean wasn't even supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be there that day. He goes in to do

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<v Speaker 1>a good deed to help his younger staffers, he sees

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<v Speaker 1>the truck, he's murdered. What happens to the assailants? One

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<v Speaker 1>was only alleged to be involved in the kidnappings Justin Pruett.

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<v Speaker 1>The other, who's the alleged murderer, Brian Roden, was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three at the time, of former Metro Atlanta high school

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<v Speaker 1>football player who had quite a few run ins with

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<v Speaker 1>the law drug related defenses. He's alleged to have darted

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<v Speaker 1>off into the woods. A few of the members saw

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<v Speaker 1>the perpetrator runaway, leaving the truck literally idling on the

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<v Speaker 1>green with Geane up there. People on the range heard

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<v Speaker 1>the gunshots. People are scrambling and then when the members

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<v Speaker 1>comes running in and tells me, I need called man

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the shots were fired and they thought

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<v Speaker 1>Jean was hurt. A few other members, one of whom

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<v Speaker 1>was a nurse, popping golf carts to drive up to

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<v Speaker 1>try to help Jean because they can see he's lying prone.

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<v Speaker 1>People in the driving range said he's been shot, He's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>They went up there to try to help him to

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<v Speaker 1>administer CPR. We found him on the ground and then

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<v Speaker 1>we rolled him over and started CPR until the police

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<v Speaker 1>got there. Through her training in her years, she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that that the gene was gone, but she still tried

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<v Speaker 1>in vain to save him. Brian, before we continue on

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<v Speaker 1>to get to Jean and his family in the aftermath,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about what happened to Roden. Was he caught

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<v Speaker 1>and then also what happened to his accomplice. It's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a winding story. He was actually much later that night

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested for d u I. He had not

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<v Speaker 1>yet been tied to the murders. He was arrested, booked,

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<v Speaker 1>held for a day or two, eventually let go and

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<v Speaker 1>they confiscated in that arrest. They pulled him over because

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<v Speaker 1>he had broken tail light, He had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>fake ideas on him. He had a backpack full of cash.

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<v Speaker 1>They confiscated the cash, and then once authorities had tied

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<v Speaker 1>him to the murders, they lured him back to the

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<v Speaker 1>police station to arrest him for the murders under the

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<v Speaker 1>guise of returning the cash they had confiscated in the

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<v Speaker 1>d U I And what is his current situation, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is the trial upcoming? How much time is he looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>The trial is ongoing, It's in Cobb County. Jury trial

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<v Speaker 1>is scheduled for the coming months. Prosecutors investigators have been

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<v Speaker 1>exceedingly tight lipped about the particulars of the case, about

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<v Speaker 1>the broader ties to any drug involvement of the drug trade.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get a peep out of him and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to piece together what had happened at the scene beyond

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<v Speaker 1>eyewitness accounts and police documents. So a lot more is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out of the trial itself here in

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<v Speaker 1>the coming months. So this is a tragic case of

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<v Speaker 1>wrong place and wrong time for Geane Siller. And while

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<v Speaker 1>it has all of these spectacular very difficult to believe

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<v Speaker 1>crime elements. It's not really a crime story that you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about. It's much more about Gene and his family

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<v Speaker 1>and who he left behind. That was important to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to tell that family story in the human story,

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<v Speaker 1>because we know things like this can get sensationalized a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>People love a crime drama, but there's always a severe,

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<v Speaker 1>raw human impact, and something like this, particularly when there's

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of suddenness and this sort of violence, it

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<v Speaker 1>was devastating. I've reported on quite a bit of tragic

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances people who have passed away, but I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say that this one seemed more raw than pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>anything I've reported on before because of the violent nature

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and the family is still reeling. Ashley, we

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in contact in the many months since I started

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<v Speaker 1>reporting this, and she puts on a brave face. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a corporate sales rep for a T and T, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's good at putting the facade up. But she said

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<v Speaker 1>she's just quietly devastated. Every day it's just her and

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<v Speaker 1>the boys. It's almost like the reality of it sets in.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm at home. I need to give the boys baths,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need to put them to bed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>need to pack their backpacks, and they need to clean

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<v Speaker 1>up the house, and then I need to do this

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<v Speaker 1>and this and this and then and then I'll buy

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<v Speaker 1>the way. My best fast not here, and their daddy's

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<v Speaker 1>not here. She does have a massive support at home

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<v Speaker 1>from her her extended family. They're all live around the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta metro area and they're there for her. For her.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom has been someone to lean on. But just the

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<v Speaker 1>little moments along the way of what we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>capture that are just so brutal. How do you break

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<v Speaker 1>the news of the two little boys the next day?

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot lie to them. Kids need answers. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to trust you, which means you have to tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Daddy went to work and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad man at daddy's work and that batman had

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<v Speaker 1>a gun and that bad man shot Daddy with his gun,

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<v Speaker 1>and Daddy died and we're not going to see him again.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't worry, because that bad guy is going to

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<v Speaker 1>jail forever. Their faces were like, oh, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done anything to take the being away from them. It

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<v Speaker 1>was banks. It's just confused, like, but what daddy and

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<v Speaker 1>the bow just I mean, he was devastated. So to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them and their pain was just like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like and then you have Jean's parents in Ohio. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest phone calls I've ever done. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've done thousands of interviews, and that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest, if not the hardest, because they were there

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<v Speaker 1>in their mid seventies. I fell on the living room

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<v Speaker 1>floor and start praying our father. So with a mother,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you want to tell me you love them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll make kiss them, you know, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that privileged at all. The sentiments they expressed were

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<v Speaker 1>We've been lucky to have this life that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>to raise successful children. They're all happy, they're all healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>They just said they just don't know if they'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>look at the world the same. They don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they'll ever recover. I don't think I could even get

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. And I just, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>was well they say that you know, the depth of

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<v Speaker 1>your love determines the depth of your grief. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>the depth of my love for him was so deep

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think I'll ever recover. I can guess

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<v Speaker 1>at the answer here. But what does Ashley have to

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<v Speaker 1>say about Brian Roden. She doesn't let it dwell, she

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<v Speaker 1>tries not to let it fester, but it's inevitable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if you were in that spot, what

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<v Speaker 1>you'd feel towards the from who's accused of doing that

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<v Speaker 1>to your life and to your boys. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible, disgusting excuse for a human. I don't hate anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and I loathe him with every ounce of my soul.

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<v Speaker 1>A month after Jean was murdered, Pine Tree held a

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<v Speaker 1>memorial tournament in Jean's honor, and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of golf luminaries who were involved tell us about that event.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called the Gene Siller Red Pants Memorial Tournament

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<v Speaker 1>because he was wearing those red pants that day and

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<v Speaker 1>was known for addressing flashily and stocking the pro shop

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<v Speaker 1>with flashy clothes. So they tried to honor that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a fundraiser. People paid the donations to the

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Siller Memorial Grant, which Actuley has started to honor

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<v Speaker 1>Jeane and help young junior golfers in the state of Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be his lasting legacy. And something they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help perpetuate his memory. And quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>p GA players professionals donated signed items, signed bags. We

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<v Speaker 1>had Hideki matsu Yama donating things. There were items from

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas, Justin, Thomas Bryson, dam Oh. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a ton that heard about this. That day alone,

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<v Speaker 1>they raised more than two h thousand dollars and the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation donations have far eclipse that in the months since.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was a chance for Ashley to

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<v Speaker 1>address the club and the crowd. A lot of local

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<v Speaker 1>p G a head pros, not guys you see on tour,

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<v Speaker 1>but guys like Jean who are head pro at club.

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<v Speaker 1>They all came. He has lots of friends, very very

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<v Speaker 1>close friends who came and played. One of his close

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<v Speaker 1>friends played with his clubs that day and really struggled

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<v Speaker 1>on the tenth hole to get on the tenth hole,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't even pull it back. I can't play

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<v Speaker 1>the holes. So before the funeral, which was about a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so after the murder, Ashley and her closest

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<v Speaker 1>friends they went out to the Tenth Green so a

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<v Speaker 1>makeshift memorial had popped up. Either people that knew him

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<v Speaker 1>our club members are complete. Strangers had come and left

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<v Speaker 1>flowers and cards, and at the spot just in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the tenth Green where Jeane had been killed, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like flowers and golf balls and you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>are I p Mr Jean, like just the most beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtful memorial. And Ashley went and brought a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>drawings that Bowen Banks had drawn the day after Jean's death,

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<v Speaker 1>and she laid them out on the memorial. Bows drawing

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<v Speaker 1>is it's particularly heartbreaking. It's of Jeane in red pants

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<v Speaker 1>fighting off the assailant and it says Daddy my hero

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<v Speaker 1>at the top and shows him standing up triumphantly, and

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<v Speaker 1>the the assailant felled on the ground, and actually they

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<v Speaker 1>placed them on the ground. They sat and they cried,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then a dragonfly came and it lands

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<v Speaker 1>right and out of all the golf balls, the state

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<v Speaker 1>the memorials, like by the size of this whole lands

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<v Speaker 1>on the red pants and we're like, everyone's like quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like then hopped over to banks Is drawing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then came back and nestled on the red pants for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. And this happens a lot in grief, where

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<v Speaker 1>you probe for signs and signals. Dragonflies are. One of

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<v Speaker 1>her friends mentioned these are a symbol of rebirth and

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian faith and in many other faiths, and actually

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<v Speaker 1>clung to that, and many people that knew Gene and

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<v Speaker 1>loved Gene and were scarred by this have clung to

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<v Speaker 1>that notion. And now they look for dragonflies everywhere they go,

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<v Speaker 1>and dragonflies are drawn to color. So maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I landed on the red pants, or maybe it was Gene.

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<v Speaker 1>To them, it doesn't matter because they needed that and

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<v Speaker 1>it means a lot to them. It's been weirdly healing

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<v Speaker 1>and powerful. One story that Ashley's mom told me was

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<v Speaker 1>that the boys went out to play nine holes one

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<v Speaker 1>day at Ryan Joyce's club and a dragon They noticed

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<v Speaker 1>a dragonfly kind of hovering around him for nine holes

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<v Speaker 1>that day and uh Banks came back and said, Nana

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy watched me play and that just ripped my heart

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<v Speaker 1>out as a writer, just and as a person, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing that. And that's the goal with everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>their circles. Let's let these boys grow up seeing dragonflies

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a metaphor for remembering their father. Let's do all

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<v Speaker 1>we can to preserve the memory of their dad, for

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<v Speaker 1>these boys going forward, and more broadly, for people he knew,

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<v Speaker 1>and for young golfers around, young golfers around the state

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<v Speaker 1>of the Foundation. You did a really good job with

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<v Speaker 1>some very difficult subject matter. You can read his excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking piece about Jean Seller's murder on SI dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Bird said, as always, thank you for this, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much. The special edition of Sports Illustrated Weekly was

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<v Speaker 1>produced by Cooper McKim Our sound engineer was Isaac Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Our senior producer is Dan Bloom. Our executive producers are

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Brody and me John Gonzalez.