1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm John Gonzalez, host of Sports Illustrated Weekly. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna try something just a little bit different this 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: week with a special audio version of Brian byrd sayds 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: s I dot com Daily cover. Please enjoy this standalone 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: bonus show, Murder at Pine Tree Country Club. The reality 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: of it sets in when I'm at home. I had 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: to give the boys bath and then we'll by the way, 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: my best friend not here and their daddy's not here. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: It was like daddy went to work and there was 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: a bad man at daddy's work, and that batman had 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a gun. Last summer, a forty six year old golf 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: pro was murdered under mysterious circumstances. Gene Siller was shot 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: on the tenth whole of the Pine Tree Country Club 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: in Georgia. We had to turn Jean over to start 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: CPR on him. It was a horrible, horrible thing to 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: come up to. The depth of your love determines the 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: depth of your grief. The depth of my loved rand 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: was so deep that I don't think I'll ever recover. 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: The story made headlines at the time, but no story 20 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: has gone as deep as a new piece written by 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Brian Byrne, said, a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated. In it, 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: he digs into hugiene, what's the random and unlikely set 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: of events that nevertheless led to him being murdered in 24 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: broad daylight? And the family Siller sadly left behind? All Right, Brian, 25 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: before we get into how and why Jeane Siller was murdered, 26 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: tell us about who he was. He was someone who 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: devoted his life to his family and to the sport 28 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: that he loved. He grew up in northwest Cincinnati. He 29 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: had two sisters, loved out the outdoors, loved playing golf. 30 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: Once he was certified to be a head pro, he 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: spent some time in Atlanta. He moved south. There's more 32 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: courses you can play and work year round. He stopped 33 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: at a couple of courses for more than a decade 34 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: as an assistant pro. He had a brief head pro 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: job that was just a real grind and didn't love 36 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: it and wound up leaving that job when that club 37 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: got sold. No respect for him, no respect for his family. 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean he was in at sixth and digged home 39 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: to like eight. I mean they were It was like 40 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: borderline of emotion. All abuse by that point, he was 41 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: already married to his wife, Ashley, and they had two boys, 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: and he was kind of a stay at home dad 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: for a time, and Ashley was supporting them and they 44 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: were in a really happy spot because he didn't have 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: those eight hour work weeks anymore. But she to tell 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: there was a void in him, something was missing, and 47 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: he was fortunate enough to get a call from the 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: general manager at Pine Tree Country Club, which is in 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: northwest Atlanta, a little town called Kennesaw on the suburbs, 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: uh someone who had interviewed him for a previous job. 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Brad Nikam called and said, Hey, we need a head 52 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: golf pro. Would you be interested. He had a good reputation, 53 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: it was smart, and it was a family man. I 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: just knew he was confident. He couldn't resist. He needed 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: to go back out and be outdoors, working with the 56 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: sport he loved and applying an engineer's mind to improving 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the club for its members. And in your piece the 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: way you write about it, and having talked to Ashley, 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like Jean really loved this job right. It 60 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: wasn't like some of the other ones that you said 61 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: previously that he wasn't crazy about this one. He was 62 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: really into that's right. He he finally had found a 63 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: place where he could scratch his professional itch and do 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: what he loved. But it wasn't that long slog. It 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: was good for their marriage. He was my amazing, big hearted, 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: hard working husband. Again. They gave him two days off 67 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: a week, even in the high season. He got Sundays 68 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: and Mondays off, so he was able to play grounds 69 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: of golf with the boys on the weekends, work around 70 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the house, keep the yard in shape for Ashley while 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: she was at work on Monday's, really devote himself to 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: his family and to his job simultaneously. We were so 73 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: grateful to be together as a family. Our marriage just 74 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: like flourished the last two years. It was just it 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but it was pretty damn clothes. So things 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: are going well at home, they're going well at work. 77 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: But then we go back to last summer. Tell us, Brian, 78 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: about what happened on July three. I'll take you back 79 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: one day before that, July two, Gene and Ashley and 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: the boys were driving back from a beach vacation they'd 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: had with Jean's family, his parents, his sisters, their spouses, 82 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: and kids, big happy family gathering. They've done one every year, 83 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: but COVID had delayed it for a couple of years, 84 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: so this was their first one in a while, and 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: it was just a really happy week, all of them reunited. 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Everyone was happy. I specifically remember saying, like, God, life 87 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: so good. We're like, life is so what. Our kids 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: are healthy, Like, we're doing all this cool stuff to 89 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: our house or were plans to Ginea and Ashley were 90 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: talking about July the third. Jeans still had off after 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: that vacation, but it was a big day at the club. 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: July three was that Saturday, so they were going to 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: have their July four celebration there and the fireworks and 94 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the cook out and all that, and Jean had a 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: handful of younger staffers. He knew that would be there 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: that day and knew it would be busy, and felt 97 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of guilty. You know, I've been gone. I want 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: to go there and help him and be there for him. 99 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: That was just who he was. He's like, are you 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: are you cool with that? I said, yeah, just we're 101 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: going to the fireworks. Please be home by six thirty. 102 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: He said, of course, of course, that's what I'll do. 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: So he got up that morning and was dressed up, 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: dressed to the nines as always in his golf attire, 105 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: had on red pants and an American flag shirt. And 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Nashley told me over and over how handsome she thought 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: he looked that day. I remember making making breakfast for 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: the boys and they're up and they're in their p 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: days and he comes down and he's like these right 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: red pants on. We called him Mr Fancy Pants. I 111 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: look you was your fancy pist And off the work 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: he went, strolled in at nine and uh, seemed to 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: be having just a normal day. And then a white 114 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: pickup truck showed up on the tenth tenth green that day. 115 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: So why was there a white pickup truck on the green? 116 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: And what happened afterwards? The court cases ongoing, but in 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: general terms is that two men are alleged to have 118 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: abducted two others that were in the back of that truck. 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: They were bound with duct tape and zip ties. It's 120 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: alleged by some people that we spoke with to have 121 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: have been tied to the drug trade. A few of 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the people that are said to be involved have had 123 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: criminal histories in the drug trade. They have these men 124 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: tied up in the back of the truck. They drive 125 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: somewhere around forty miles from where they are alleged to 126 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: have kidnapped them, and they wind up on a street. 127 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: It's a dead end street that is bisected by the 128 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: cart path that runs from Pine Trees Tenth Green too. 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: It's eleventh t and you can easily jump onto the 130 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: course from that street. When you're looking down, all you 131 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: really see is a lake. So it appeared again this 132 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: is all alleged that the men were looking to murder 133 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: these two men in the back and disposed of the 134 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: bodies in the lake. So they were alleged to have 135 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: killed the two men in the back. Paul Pierson and 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Henry Valdez shot them there at the site and then 137 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: tried to It appeared at least one of the men 138 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: had pulled the trigger, had tried to maroon the truck hide. 139 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: The Oven said, that's at least what it appeared was happening. 140 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: But there's two bunkers that guard the right side of 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the green, and one of that front bunker caught the truck. 142 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: The front wheels came up, couldn't go anywhere, and so 143 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: now you look out and there's a truck stuck out 144 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: on that tenth green in the middle of the day, 145 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: two pm on a Saturday, July three, at a busy 146 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: golf course. So Jeane looks out the middle of the day, 147 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: busy golf course, sees this truck. What happens. One of 148 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: his assistant pros, Harris and Bryant, was in the pro 149 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: shop that day, and it's got a big expansive view 150 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: out to the driving range and the tenth green is 151 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: visible from the clubhouse, and he saw it. He couldn't 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: tell what was going on, answered the call, and then 153 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: saw it really actually out on the course from where 154 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: it had been, and then told Jean about it, and 155 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Jean said, okay, I'll go investigate. Oftentimes, a lot of 156 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: people I talked to at the club they said, you 157 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: know that happens in golf, will you'll have you know, 158 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe there's kids out there in the course, or you know, 159 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: teenagers up to no good. My other thought was somebody 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: had seizure, hardtack, or somebody got super drunk early on 161 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: the points in July weekend. You don't assume it's something 162 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: to furious, but you got to go talk to him, 163 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: get him out, even off for help. They thought, in 164 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: this case, someone must have had a car accident broken down, 165 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: or that's the logical explanation in a scenario like that. 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: So Jean hops in a golf cart, drives up the 167 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: cart path that straddles the left side of the tenth fairway, 168 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and then gets to the green, and that's where the 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: alleged shooter, Brian Roden, is alleged to have shot him 170 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: twice and killed him instantly. So Jean wasn't even supposed 171 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: to be there that day. He goes in to do 172 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: a good deed to help his younger staffers, he sees 173 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: the truck, he's murdered. What happens to the assailants? One 174 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: was only alleged to be involved in the kidnappings Justin Pruett. 175 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: The other, who's the alleged murderer, Brian Roden, was twenty 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: three at the time, of former Metro Atlanta high school 177 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: football player who had quite a few run ins with 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the law drug related defenses. He's alleged to have darted 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: off into the woods. A few of the members saw 180 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: the perpetrator runaway, leaving the truck literally idling on the 181 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: green with Geane up there. People on the range heard 182 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: the gunshots. People are scrambling and then when the members 183 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: comes running in and tells me, I need called man 184 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: and one of the shots were fired and they thought 185 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Jean was hurt. A few other members, one of whom 186 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: was a nurse, popping golf carts to drive up to 187 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: try to help Jean because they can see he's lying prone. 188 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: People in the driving range said he's been shot, He's hurt. 189 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: They went up there to try to help him to 190 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: administer CPR. We found him on the ground and then 191 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: we rolled him over and started CPR until the police 192 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: got there. Through her training in her years, she knew 193 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: that that the gene was gone, but she still tried 194 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: in vain to save him. Brian, before we continue on 195 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: to get to Jean and his family in the aftermath, 196 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious about what happened to Roden. Was he caught 197 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: and then also what happened to his accomplice. It's quite 198 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: a winding story. He was actually much later that night 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: he was arrested for d u I. He had not 200 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: yet been tied to the murders. He was arrested, booked, 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: held for a day or two, eventually let go and 202 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: they confiscated in that arrest. They pulled him over because 203 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: he had broken tail light, He had a bunch of 204 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: fake ideas on him. He had a backpack full of cash. 205 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: They confiscated the cash, and then once authorities had tied 206 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: him to the murders, they lured him back to the 207 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: police station to arrest him for the murders under the 208 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: guise of returning the cash they had confiscated in the 209 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: d U I And what is his current situation, I mean, 210 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: is the trial upcoming? How much time is he looking at? 211 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: The trial is ongoing, It's in Cobb County. Jury trial 212 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: is scheduled for the coming months. Prosecutors investigators have been 213 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: exceedingly tight lipped about the particulars of the case, about 214 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: the broader ties to any drug involvement of the drug trade. 215 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a peep out of him and trying 216 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: to piece together what had happened at the scene beyond 217 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: eyewitness accounts and police documents. So a lot more is 218 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: going to come out of the trial itself here in 219 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the coming months. So this is a tragic case of 220 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: wrong place and wrong time for Geane Siller. And while 221 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: it has all of these spectacular very difficult to believe 222 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: crime elements. It's not really a crime story that you 223 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: wrote about. It's much more about Gene and his family 224 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: and who he left behind. That was important to us, 225 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: and trying to tell that family story in the human story, 226 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: because we know things like this can get sensationalized a lot. 227 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: People love a crime drama, but there's always a severe, 228 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: raw human impact, and something like this, particularly when there's 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: this sort of suddenness and this sort of violence, it 230 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: was devastating. I've reported on quite a bit of tragic 231 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: circumstances people who have passed away, but I have to 232 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: say that this one seemed more raw than pretty much 233 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: anything I've reported on before because of the violent nature 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: of it, and the family is still reeling. Ashley, we 235 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: stayed in contact in the many months since I started 236 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: reporting this, and she puts on a brave face. She's 237 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: a corporate sales rep for a T and T, so 238 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: she's good at putting the facade up. But she said 239 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: she's just quietly devastated. Every day it's just her and 240 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the boys. It's almost like the reality of it sets in. 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: When I'm at home. I need to give the boys baths, 242 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: and I need to put them to bed, and I 243 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: need to pack their backpacks, and they need to clean 244 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: up the house, and then I need to do this 245 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: and this and this and then and then I'll buy 246 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the way. My best fast not here, and their daddy's 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: not here. She does have a massive support at home 248 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: from her her extended family. They're all live around the 249 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta metro area and they're there for her. For her. 250 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: Mom has been someone to lean on. But just the 251 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: little moments along the way of what we wanted to 252 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: capture that are just so brutal. How do you break 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the news of the two little boys the next day? 254 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: You cannot lie to them. Kids need answers. They have 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: to trust you, which means you have to tell them. 256 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: It was like Daddy went to work and there was 257 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: a bad man at daddy's work and that batman had 258 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: a gun and that bad man shot Daddy with his gun, 259 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and Daddy died and we're not going to see him again. 260 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: But don't worry, because that bad guy is going to 261 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: jail forever. Their faces were like, oh, I would have 262 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: done anything to take the being away from them. It 263 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: was banks. It's just confused, like, but what daddy and 264 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the bow just I mean, he was devastated. So to 265 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: watch them and their pain was just like it was 266 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: like and then you have Jean's parents in Ohio. That's 267 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: one of the hardest phone calls I've ever done. And 268 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I've done thousands of interviews, and that was one of 269 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: the hardest, if not the hardest, because they were there 270 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: in their mid seventies. I fell on the living room 271 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: floor and start praying our father. So with a mother, 272 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, you want to tell me you love them, 273 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: and they'll make kiss them, you know, but we didn't 274 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: have that privileged at all. The sentiments they expressed were 275 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: We've been lucky to have this life that we've had 276 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to raise successful children. They're all happy, they're all healthy. 277 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: They just said they just don't know if they'll ever 278 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: look at the world the same. They don't know if 279 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: they'll ever recover. I don't think I could even get 280 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: out of it. And I just, you know, it's just 281 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: was well they say that you know, the depth of 282 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: your love determines the depth of your grief. There's just 283 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the depth of my love for him was so deep 284 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: that I don't think I'll ever recover. I can guess 285 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: at the answer here. But what does Ashley have to 286 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: say about Brian Roden. She doesn't let it dwell, she 287 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: tries not to let it fester, but it's inevitable. I mean, 288 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: can you imagine if you were in that spot, what 289 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: you'd feel towards the from who's accused of doing that 290 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: to your life and to your boys. I think he's 291 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: a terrible, disgusting excuse for a human. I don't hate anybody, 292 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: and I loathe him with every ounce of my soul. 293 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: A month after Jean was murdered, Pine Tree held a 294 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: memorial tournament in Jean's honor, and there are a lot 295 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: of golf luminaries who were involved tell us about that event. 296 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: It was called the Gene Siller Red Pants Memorial Tournament 297 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: because he was wearing those red pants that day and 298 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: was known for addressing flashily and stocking the pro shop 299 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: with flashy clothes. So they tried to honor that, and 300 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: it was a fundraiser. People paid the donations to the 301 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Gene Siller Memorial Grant, which Actuley has started to honor 302 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: Jeane and help young junior golfers in the state of Georgia. 303 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: That's going to be his lasting legacy. And something they're 304 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: trying to help perpetuate his memory. And quite a few 305 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: p GA players professionals donated signed items, signed bags. We 306 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: had Hideki matsu Yama donating things. There were items from 307 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas, Justin, Thomas Bryson, dam Oh. There 308 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: were a ton that heard about this. That day alone, 309 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: they raised more than two h thousand dollars and the 310 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: foundation donations have far eclipse that in the months since. 311 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: But it was it was a chance for Ashley to 312 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: address the club and the crowd. A lot of local 313 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: p G a head pros, not guys you see on tour, 314 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: but guys like Jean who are head pro at club. 315 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: They all came. He has lots of friends, very very 316 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: close friends who came and played. One of his close 317 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: friends played with his clubs that day and really struggled 318 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: on the tenth hole to get on the tenth hole, 319 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: and I can't even pull it back. I can't play 320 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: the holes. So before the funeral, which was about a 321 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: week or so after the murder, Ashley and her closest 322 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: friends they went out to the Tenth Green so a 323 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: makeshift memorial had popped up. Either people that knew him 324 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: our club members are complete. Strangers had come and left 325 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: flowers and cards, and at the spot just in front 326 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: of the tenth Green where Jeane had been killed, it 327 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: was like flowers and golf balls and you know, we 328 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: are I p Mr Jean, like just the most beautiful, 329 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: thoughtful memorial. And Ashley went and brought a pair of 330 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: drawings that Bowen Banks had drawn the day after Jean's death, 331 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: and she laid them out on the memorial. Bows drawing 332 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: is it's particularly heartbreaking. It's of Jeane in red pants 333 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: fighting off the assailant and it says Daddy my hero 334 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: at the top and shows him standing up triumphantly, and 335 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: the the assailant felled on the ground, and actually they 336 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: placed them on the ground. They sat and they cried, 337 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: and then and then a dragonfly came and it lands 338 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: right and out of all the golf balls, the state 339 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: the memorials, like by the size of this whole lands 340 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: on the red pants and we're like, everyone's like quiet, 341 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm like then hopped over to banks Is drawing, and 342 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: then came back and nestled on the red pants for 343 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: a bit. And this happens a lot in grief, where 344 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: you probe for signs and signals. Dragonflies are. One of 345 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: her friends mentioned these are a symbol of rebirth and 346 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: the Christian faith and in many other faiths, and actually 347 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: clung to that, and many people that knew Gene and 348 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: loved Gene and were scarred by this have clung to 349 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: that notion. And now they look for dragonflies everywhere they go, 350 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 1: and dragonflies are drawn to color. So maybe that's why 351 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: I landed on the red pants, or maybe it was Gene. 352 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: To them, it doesn't matter because they needed that and 353 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: it means a lot to them. It's been weirdly healing 354 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: and powerful. One story that Ashley's mom told me was 355 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: that the boys went out to play nine holes one 356 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: day at Ryan Joyce's club and a dragon They noticed 357 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: a dragonfly kind of hovering around him for nine holes 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that day and uh Banks came back and said, Nana 359 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Daddy watched me play and that just ripped my heart 360 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: out as a writer, just and as a person, you know, 361 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: just hearing that. And that's the goal with everyone in 362 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: their circles. Let's let these boys grow up seeing dragonflies 363 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: clearly a metaphor for remembering their father. Let's do all 364 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: we can to preserve the memory of their dad, for 365 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: these boys going forward, and more broadly, for people he knew, 366 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: and for young golfers around, young golfers around the state 367 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: of the Foundation. You did a really good job with 368 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: some very difficult subject matter. You can read his excellent, 369 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: heartbreaking piece about Jean Seller's murder on SI dot com. 370 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: Brian Bird said, as always, thank you for this, Thanks 371 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: so much. The special edition of Sports Illustrated Weekly was 372 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: produced by Cooper McKim Our sound engineer was Isaac Lee. 373 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Our senior producer is Dan Bloom. Our executive producers are 374 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Scott Brody and me John Gonzalez.