Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 2: your senator, You've come back from one incredible trip, and
Speaker 2: I know that that is something that you have a
Speaker 2: lot to talk about with Zelensky having a meeting with him.
Speaker 2: But there's also some very important breaking news even before that.
Speaker 3: We're going to get to. Well, that's exactly right. I'm
Speaker 3: back in America, back in Texas, very glad to be
Speaker 3: back home, and there is a lot going on in
Speaker 3: the world. Number one, we have what's happening in Israel.
Speaker 3: The Daring Rescue, the IDF went in and rescued four
Speaker 3: American hostages. Of course, the corporate media went crazy blaming Israel,
Speaker 3: and then it was discovered that among the captors that
Speaker 3: were holding the hostages was a quote unquote journalist who's
Speaker 3: in fact a Hamas terrorist. We're going to break that
Speaker 3: down along with the rabidly anti Israel pro Hamas protests
Speaker 3: outside of the White House, Joe Biden and the Democrats
Speaker 3: do nothing as protesters deface monuments and assault law enforcement officers.
Speaker 3: On top of that, we're going to get into the
Speaker 3: Hunter Biden trial, and in particular, it is now admitted
Speaker 3: that the laptop is real. It is accurate. The Biden
Speaker 3: administration is arguing that in court, and everyone who lied
Speaker 3: about it for week after week and month after month
Speaker 3: and year after year crickets from all of them. None
Speaker 3: of them are admitting, from James Clapper to Tony Blinken
Speaker 3: to all of the president's liars that lied on his behalf,
Speaker 3: they're suddenly silent, and of course the media doesn't care.
Speaker 3: And then finally we're going to get into the meeting
Speaker 3: I had just two days ago with President Zelenski while
Speaker 3: we were in France. We sat down and talked about
Speaker 3: what's happening in Ukraine. I'm going to tell you about
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited to hear exactly how that meeting went.
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Speaker 2: support IFCJ dot org center. Let's start with Israel and
Speaker 2: what has happened there. It is a great victory, especially,
Speaker 2: I think just for morale and to know that some
Speaker 2: of the hostages are still a live. Israeli officials came
Speaker 2: out and said they had a raid. They were able
Speaker 2: to free four hostages from two different locations. BB made
Speaker 2: it clear, we won't stop until they're all home.
Speaker 4: That was his message.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. The IDF sent in special forces
Speaker 3: and they rescued four hostages. This was in Gaza. They
Speaker 3: went in and they found them and they got them out.
Speaker 3: The four hostages Almagh Mayor John Noah, Argamani, Andre Koslov
Speaker 3: and Shlomy Ziv with the four hostages, three men and
Speaker 3: a woman. They had been hostages since October seventh, and
Speaker 3: the IDF went in they got them out. It is incredible.
Speaker 3: That is cause for celebration, but it is also it
Speaker 3: really is striking. As soon as it happened, the corporate
Speaker 3: media immediately began attacking who not Amas, attacking Israel, and
Speaker 3: their narrative was, well, you shouldn't have killed Palestinians.
Speaker 1: Doing it, and and and they.
Speaker 3: Began by saying by focusing on a Gaza journalist, a
Speaker 3: Gaza journalist who wrote for Al Jazeera uh and and
Speaker 3: who has been a vocal journalist writing on writing on
Speaker 3: what is happening in Gaza. He wrote for the Palestine Chronicle,
Speaker 3: which is an American five oh one c. Three and
Speaker 3: and he was writing regularly. Well, it turns out this
Speaker 3: quote unquote journalist also happens to be a Hamas terrorist
Speaker 3: who was keeping three hostages in his home for months
Speaker 3: upon months upon months. And so yes, he was killed.
Speaker 3: The terrorist was killed when they rescued the hostage from
Speaker 3: his house where he was keeping them captive.
Speaker 2: You look at the story when it broke, and it's
Speaker 2: it's two things that the media, even in this country,
Speaker 2: basedly overlooked that were incredibly important. Number One, there were casualties,
Speaker 2: because apparently there was munitions in and around the hostages.
Speaker 2: And number two, they hid these hostages in a heavily
Speaker 2: populated area where people like a quote journalist would be living.
Speaker 2: And this was nothing more than human shield So yet
Speaker 2: Israel goes in and saves for their own and even
Speaker 2: the US media and many different media organizations around the
Speaker 2: world started attacking Israel because, as they said, well, and
Speaker 2: it's the people died, Well that is the fault of
Speaker 2: Amas for using them as human shields.
Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: On Twitter, there was one doctor from Gaza who tweeted
Speaker 3: out one of the people, the father of the SAMAS
Speaker 3: terrorist and journalist, was also killed, and a doctor from
Speaker 3: Gaza tweeted out the following red siren quote. Just learn
Speaker 3: the heartbreaking news of the martyrdom of one of the
Speaker 3: finest colleagues I've ever worked with, doctor Ahmed al Jamal
Speaker 3: seventy three. He was tragically killed by the Israeli army
Speaker 3: during the Nusurat massacre central Gaza strip, which claimed over
Speaker 3: two hundred lives and injured hundreds.
Speaker 1: And it's a.
Speaker 3: Picture of this older man with a beard holding a baby,
Speaker 3: and he's described as one of the finest colleagues he's
Speaker 3: ever worked with, except he has this annoying little habit
Speaker 3: of keeping hostages in his home. Mind you, he lived there,
Speaker 3: so he was complicit in keeping the hostages captive. You
Speaker 3: don't have three hostages living in your home in a
Speaker 3: dense urban environment without knowing about it, without knowing about it,
Speaker 3: withoutout being actively complicit. And yet we saw all of
Speaker 3: the corporate media outlets echoing the stories that can you
Speaker 3: believe those men Israelis killed an innocent doctor, killed an
Speaker 3: innocent journalist. It's worth remembering the next time you see
Speaker 3: a story being reported from quote journalists in Gaza, you
Speaker 3: ought to ask yourself, okay, and is that does that
Speaker 3: journalists have hostages in his home? Because that's that's the
Speaker 3: environment we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's not just that I want to paint
Speaker 2: a picture here that the media will not paint for you.
Speaker 2: Apparently this journalist, it wasn't like he was living by
Speaker 2: himself and basically turned his apartment into some military style prison.
Speaker 2: He was living with his family there, So not just
Speaker 2: did he know that he obviously has these hostages, but
Speaker 2: you had to keep them alive, and there was obviously
Speaker 2: amas coming and going and not only that you had
Speaker 2: his family that knew it as well.
Speaker 3: Yep, the quote unquote journalist. His name was Abdallah al Jamal,
Speaker 3: and he had three of the hostages there. He had
Speaker 3: Al mag Andre and Shlomy. So the three men were
Speaker 3: hostages at his home along with his family, and his
Speaker 3: family was killed. Well, you know what, if you're willing
Speaker 3: to stand guard on hostages, you know people are saying, oh,
Speaker 3: this is terrible. I'll give you a real easy way
Speaker 3: not to be killed by commandos rescuing hostages. Don't take
Speaker 3: hostages and keep them imprisoned in your home. If you
Speaker 3: are a terrorist, you should not be surprised that you're
Speaker 3: treated as a terrorist.
Speaker 2: You look at this story and let's go back to
Speaker 2: the bravery and the commitment from Israel and compare and
Speaker 2: contrast that and bring this back home to this country.
Speaker 2: There used to be and I talked about this extensively
Speaker 2: on my show today that if you were an American
Speaker 2: you almost had an invisible bubble around you when you
Speaker 2: travel the world. Don't screw with that American, whether it's
Speaker 2: in Mexico, whether it's in the Middle East, whether it's
Speaker 2: anywhere in the world. When I traveled abroad in college.
Speaker 2: I wasn't worried because I knew I was an American,
Speaker 2: and I knew that that gave me another level of
Speaker 2: protection from people messing with me, because if you mess
Speaker 2: with me, you were messing with the United States of America.
Speaker 2: That is gone now, that bubble, as I described it
Speaker 2: as completely gone. And the idea that there's still American
Speaker 2: citizens being held hostage and we're not hearing about them.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the President could name any of their names.
Speaker 2: The White House refuses to bring it up or talk
Speaker 2: about it. And you look at what Israel's doing saying
Speaker 2: We're coming for you, and we're going to keep coming
Speaker 2: until we get you all back. Where is America's resolved,
Speaker 2: for goodness sakes? And where are we with getting our
Speaker 2: own citizens back?
Speaker 3: Senator, look at it. It's absolutely pitiful. There are five
Speaker 3: Americans that are still being held hostage, and the Biden
Speaker 3: White House, as far as I can tell, is not
Speaker 3: doing a damn thing to try to get them out.
Speaker 3: What the Biden White House has done is Nonumber one,
Speaker 3: harangue Israel from day one. Number two, blockade weapons from
Speaker 3: going to Israel. Number three, send money to Gaza that
Speaker 3: goes to Hamas and number four, pressure and use leverage
Speaker 3: on Israel to try to get Israel to stop killing
Speaker 3: the Hamas terrorists. That's what Biden has done. That's what
Speaker 3: this administration has done. Can you imagine Biden's sending in
Speaker 3: special forces to rescue American hostages. It's not imaginable because
Speaker 3: he wouldn't do it. They're not focused on it. It's
Speaker 3: not a priority. Look, I'm going to read you the
Speaker 3: story from the Detroit News. In Detroit, Kamala Harris morns
Speaker 3: Palestinians killed in Israeli hostage rescue. So that's her message.
Speaker 3: The Vice President goes to Detroit. Mind you, dearborn, Michigan
Speaker 3: has a huge Muslim population. They're terrified they're going to
Speaker 3: lose Michigan, and so they're not worried about American hostages.
Speaker 3: Is the Vice President's message. Oh, it is terrible that
Speaker 3: these terrorists were killed. And by the way, it is
Speaker 3: worth remembering also the next time you hear these numbers
Speaker 3: given of civilian casualties, understand every one of these terrorists
Speaker 3: who was actually keeping hostages prisoner. They were described in
Speaker 3: the early media coverage as civilians. Yeah, great point that
Speaker 3: that's the lie. And mind you, these hostages were not
Speaker 3: in tunnels, they were not in military outlets, they were
Speaker 3: in civilian apartment buildings. I mean Hamas deliberately surrounds hostages,
Speaker 3: surrounds its terrorists with civilians, and when the media describes
Speaker 3: people as civilians, many of the people the media call
Speaker 3: civilians are not.
Speaker 2: Will we get any more clarification from the White House
Speaker 2: about any of this, like is there a plan? And look,
Speaker 2: they always get to hide behind and understand it. There's
Speaker 2: many times when you're dealing with the hostage situations like hey,
Speaker 2: they go to the families like, hey, please don't do
Speaker 2: anything publicly. We're working behind the scenes. You could actually
Speaker 2: make things worse. We've seen that with Russia, for example.
Speaker 2: They're still an American being held there. But we got
Speaker 2: the WNBA star out and the families like we played
Speaker 2: by the rules they gave us, which was to be silent,
Speaker 2: be quiet. It didn't work, it didn't help, and so
Speaker 2: this seems to be the get out of jail free
Speaker 2: card for this White House. Consistently, when Americans are held hostage,
Speaker 2: well it's we're working the back channels and we really
Speaker 2: can't say much publicly, like, at what point does that
Speaker 2: answer become unacceptable? And also to the family members who
Speaker 2: are sitting there waiting for these updates.
Speaker 3: Look, if the Biden White House is doing anything other
Speaker 3: than undermining Israel to try to get the American hostages out,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, and they're doing it silently,
Speaker 3: but it is difficult to imagine. It's difficult to imagine
Speaker 3: this administration doing anything remotely like what Israel carried out.
Speaker 3: And you know, you contrast it, you contrast it to
Speaker 3: Israel in the Ntegi Raid.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Look, sometimes Ben, people ask me, how is it that
Speaker 3: a guy who is a Cuban Texan Southern Baptist ended
Speaker 3: up as the leading defender of Israel in the United
Speaker 3: States Senate. And there are lots of reasons for that,
Speaker 3: but it is very much a passion for me, and
Speaker 3: it's personal and one of the reasons has to do
Speaker 3: with my childhood and growing up. I remember very clearly
Speaker 3: the Ntegi raid. It happened in nineteen seventy six. I
Speaker 3: was five years old at the time, and Israel went in.
Speaker 3: Palestinian terrorist had hijacked a plane full of Israelis and
Speaker 3: had taken them to Uganda. And when that happened, Israel
Speaker 3: in commandos and rescue the hostages, rescued one hundred and
Speaker 3: two hostages. And I mean it was amazing and brave.
Speaker 3: And when I was five years old, I was watching
Speaker 3: that happen. To me, what it said was that Israel's
Speaker 3: philosophy was if you take our citizens hostage, they may die,
Speaker 3: but you're going to die. Yeah, And that to me
Speaker 3: was a very Texan foreign policy and it's not something
Speaker 3: you could imagine Joe Biden capable of.
Speaker 2: For people that are curious about one last aspect of
Speaker 2: going and getting your people, there seems to be this
Speaker 2: new idea. And I saw a lot of this on
Speaker 2: social media over the weekend, and I saw people were
Speaker 2: writing this. They were like, well, look, America couldn't go
Speaker 2: into Gaza. That would be Israel's job to get our
Speaker 2: hostages back. So you got to understand that it's not
Speaker 2: like America could do anything. Can you explain how absurd
Speaker 2: that idea is?
Speaker 1: We get our hostages anywhere in the world?
Speaker 2: Okay, so normal, Just so people understand that, because there
Speaker 2: actually seems to be a lot of misinformation that if well,
Speaker 2: if they're in another country. It's not as simple as
Speaker 2: you can just go get them.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure you can that That is the job of
Speaker 3: the military is to protect Americans, and rescuing American hostages
Speaker 3: is a critical responsibility. It can be difficult, but if
Speaker 3: you have hostages that are that are taken by terrorists,
Speaker 3: by the way, you know, you remember back when when
Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter was president and and we had in Iran,
Speaker 3: we had American hostages taken and held in captivity for
Speaker 3: four hundred and forty four days when the Iranian radical
Speaker 3: Islamic terrorists took over the embassy. Jimmy Carter sent a
Speaker 3: military force to go attack to try to get the
Speaker 3: hostages out, and the military force ended up crashing in
Speaker 3: the desert with no opposing fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was but.
Speaker 3: To Carter's credit, he actually tried. I had to go
Speaker 3: in and do something. If Joe Biden has done anything
Speaker 3: to try to free those American hostages, he hasn't bothered
Speaker 3: to tell us or anybody in the world about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's and I think that's the biggest concern for so
Speaker 2: many Americans right now, is the aspect that we're just
Speaker 2: sitting around kind of waiting and letting Israel, in essence,
Speaker 2: take the lead here. I hope that we get some
Speaker 2: answers or at least some accountability or or pressure on
Speaker 2: this White House. Is there any way that you guys
Speaker 2: lastly in Congress can do that.
Speaker 3: Well, as we've talked about, I'm going to be forcing
Speaker 3: a vote and a vote in the next couple of
Speaker 3: weeks on my resolution under the War Powers Act to
Speaker 3: defund the gazap Here, and that by using the War
Speaker 3: Powers Act I can Schumer can't stop me from getting
Speaker 3: a vote. And so look, I would rather force a
Speaker 3: vote on providing military weapons to Israeli meet and stopping
Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats from blockading those weapons. But Schumer's
Speaker 3: not going to allow that vote. He's already said he's
Speaker 3: not going to allow a vote at all. He's just
Speaker 3: going to say no. And so what I can force
Speaker 3: a vote on is the second half stopping the money
Speaker 3: that is going to the gazap here.
Speaker 1: And so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep you updated obviously on that one.
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Speaker 2: Senaer, I also want to ask you one other question,
Speaker 2: and that is about the protests that took place in
Speaker 2: front of the White House.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: This was Hamas pro Hamas has Blau protests that took place.
Speaker 2: They were very clearly in favor of these terrorists organizations.
Speaker 2: They also defaced and attacked American monuments as well, and
Speaker 2: yet no one seems to be covering it.
Speaker 3: Well, look It really was outrageous. You saw an angry
Speaker 3: mob that was conducting brazen criminal activity right outside the
Speaker 3: White House.
Speaker 1: Uh they were.
Speaker 3: If they themselves are not actual terrorists, they're certainly supporting terrorists.
Speaker 3: They are chanting in support of Hamas. They're carrying signs
Speaker 3: saying they support Hamas. Here here take take take a
Speaker 3: listen to what they're chanting as they're walking down the
Speaker 3: streets outside the White House.
Speaker 2: By another now, I mean, sir, this is in front
Speaker 2: of the White House. He has blah, kill another Zionus
Speaker 2: now and another part they were saying, kill another soldier
Speaker 2: now that this is calling for the extermination of the Jews.
Speaker 4: And it's right in front of the White House.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, and this is number one. This is now the
Speaker 3: hardcore base of the Democrat Party. These are the voters
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer are
Speaker 3: trying to kiss up to and get the votes of.
Speaker 3: It's why Kamala Harris went to Michigan and said that
Speaker 3: that that that expressed her remorse for the Palestinian terrorists
Speaker 3: being killed instead of standing clearly with Israel against Tomas
Speaker 3: and and you look at what happened. These people are
Speaker 3: claiming to be Hamas, I think we should take them
Speaker 3: at their word for it. And they are also committing
Speaker 3: brazen crimes. They are defacing monuments. They're the statue of Lafayette,
Speaker 3: a great, a great hero, pivotal in the founding of America.
Speaker 3: They're spraying, spray painting, Free Gaza, their spray painting, and
Speaker 3: they're doing it right out in the open. There was
Speaker 3: a law enforcement officer standing outside the statue. They're throwing
Speaker 3: things at him. They're throwing water bottles at him, and
Speaker 3: and the stunning thing is all right. DC Metro police
Speaker 3: said they made zero protest related arrests at the protest.
Speaker 3: US Secret Service told reporters they made no arrests at
Speaker 3: the protest. So you can vandalize, you can spray paint,
Speaker 3: you can deface public monuments, you can assault police officers,
Speaker 3: you can you can call for the murder of Jews,
Speaker 3: and there are no consequences in this administration. That's who
Speaker 3: they are and this is who they're rooting for and
Speaker 3: to be queer.
Speaker 2: So people understand, I lived in DC. You're there, you know,
Speaker 2: virtually part of every week when you guys are in session,
Speaker 2: I think people needed to understand DC is a very
Speaker 2: liberal city run by Democrats, and this is a top
Speaker 2: down Whether it was Black Lives Matter, whether it was
Speaker 2: sitting at church on fire across from the White House
Speaker 2: when Trump was in office, this is the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: that is basically sanctioning this behavior in saying we will
Speaker 2: continue to look the other way because it's complicated. You've
Speaker 2: got secret service, it has certain type of jurisdiction, but
Speaker 2: it's not in many parts of the streets where a
Speaker 2: local police would be, and that's where the Democrats are
Speaker 2: in charge.
Speaker 3: Well, number one, DC is an overwhelmingly Democrat city. The
Speaker 3: mayor is a very left wing Democrat.
Speaker 1: D C voted.
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety four percent or ninety six
Speaker 3: percent for Joe Biden. So it's almost exclusively a one
Speaker 3: party town. And the DC police, the mayor is not
Speaker 3: letting them arrest anyone. But on top of that, Lafayette
Speaker 3: Square is under the control of the US Department of
Speaker 3: the Interior, so it is the Biden administration. Joe Biden
Speaker 3: could direct his administration, the FBI could go out and
Speaker 3: arrest these people, and they're not doing it. They're not
Speaker 3: doing it because they don't want to offend the people
Speaker 3: chanting hesbela, hesbela, kill another ziotist. The Democrats look at
Speaker 3: that and say, hey, those are the people who's votes
Speaker 3: we want. The protest had around nine thousand people in it,
Speaker 3: the anti Israel pro Hamas protests. This is a massive
Speaker 3: protest outside the White House. How many US Park police
Speaker 3: do you think we're assigned to police the nine thousand
Speaker 3: person protests.
Speaker 4: I'm genuinely curious. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Seventy one, wow, seventy one police officers for nine thousand protesters.
Speaker 3: They also park police command staff did not allow the
Speaker 3: officers to wear riot gear, so they were not able
Speaker 3: to defend themselves from nine thousand protesters, not able to
Speaker 3: use the equipment they need, and seventy one officers. This
Speaker 3: administration does not want to shut these protests down, and
Speaker 3: they look the other way. And by the way, this
Speaker 3: is an apartment of justice where, my goodness, if you
Speaker 3: pray outside an abortion clinic, they'll come after you with
Speaker 3: commandos at your house. If you were standing on the
Speaker 3: mall on January sixth singing God bless America, they'll track
Speaker 3: you down wherever you are and devote all the resources
Speaker 3: of the Department of Justice. There's video of everyone to
Speaker 3: facing these monuments, throwing things at law enforcement, and the
Speaker 3: Biden administration is doing zero. Their view is if we
Speaker 3: agree with your politics, and tragically today the Democrats agree
Speaker 3: with the politics of the people saying hesbeala kill. Another
Speaker 3: zionis now, if they agree with your politics, they will
Speaker 3: not arrest you, they will not charge you, they will
Speaker 3: not prosecute you, and they will let you break the
Speaker 3: law right in front of them with zero consequences.
Speaker 2: I want to move to another domestic issue, and that
Speaker 2: is a Hunter Biden trial. This is not a surprise
Speaker 2: to any sane person, but we got official, official confirmation
Speaker 2: from law enforcement that yes, in fact, the Hunter Biden
Speaker 2: laptop is real, which means all of our spies, all
Speaker 2: the top people at the CIA and the FBI that
Speaker 2: came out and said that this had all the markings
Speaker 2: right of Russian disinformation campaign before the last election, they
Speaker 2: all knew the laptop was real. They were all lying
Speaker 2: to the American people, and there seems to be zero
Speaker 2: accountability for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look that that is exactly right. So this past
Speaker 3: week in the Hunter Biden trial, the Biden Department of
Speaker 3: Justice came in and made the argument to the court
Speaker 3: that the Hunter Biden laptop was real, that it was accurate,
Speaker 3: that it had not been been modified, that it had
Speaker 3: not been altered in any way, shape or form. And
Speaker 3: actually the media just reported reported matter of fact, ABC, NBCCBS,
Speaker 3: Washington Post reported that the laptop showed no evidence of
Speaker 3: tampering and was both real and authentic. And none of
Speaker 3: those outlets acknowledged that. For years, and especially in the
Speaker 3: weeks and months right before the twenty twenty election, they
Speaker 3: said over and over and over again. First of all,
Speaker 3: they refused to cover it, but to the extent they
Speaker 3: did cover it, they said it was Russian interference and
Speaker 3: Russian disinformation. Now the Biden Justice Department just argue, that's
Speaker 3: a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: And yet do you hear anyone calling to.
Speaker 3: Calling to accountability, people like Clapper, people like Brennan, people
Speaker 3: like Leon Panetta, people like Tony Blink and Tony Blincoln.
Speaker 3: The US Secretary of State led the effort to get
Speaker 3: fifty one former intelligence officials to sign a letter saying
Speaker 3: this had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Now that
Speaker 3: was a total lie. It wasn't Russian disinformation. And by
Speaker 3: the way, oh no, let's not forget this. Let's remind
Speaker 3: people why that letter was so important. It was before
Speaker 3: were president of debate and they needed to get out
Speaker 3: of jail free. Excuse Yeah, and Biden cited the letter
Speaker 3: in the debate. He relied on it.
Speaker 1: Here. Take a listen, we're going.
Speaker 6: To have it's true about Russia, Ukraine, China, other countries, Iraq.
Speaker 6: If this is true, then he's a corrupt politician, right,
Speaker 6: So don't give me the stuff about how you're this
Speaker 6: innocent baby Joe. They're calling you a corrupt politician.
Speaker 4: Nobody. I want to stay on the issue of race.
Speaker 4: We're talking about from hill.
Speaker 1: President Trump.
Speaker 7: We're talking about race right now, and I do want
Speaker 7: to stay on the issue of race. President Trump, you
Speaker 7: have to respond to that.
Speaker 1: Look very cool.
Speaker 7: Are fifty former national intelligence folks who said that what
Speaker 7: this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
Speaker 4: They have said that this has all the care.
Speaker 7: Four five former heads of the CIA, both parties say
Speaker 7: what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes
Speaker 7: it except them his and his good friend Rudi Giolli.
Speaker 6: You mean the laptop is now another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
Speaker 4: You that's exactly what, exactly what this is where he's going.
Speaker 1: I want to stay on the issue of race. You
Speaker 1: have to here we go again with the Russia.
Speaker 2: We're going to I will, by the way, how the
Speaker 2: whole time, the moderators like, we got to move on
Speaker 2: from this.
Speaker 4: We gotta, we got to move on as fast as
Speaker 4: we can.
Speaker 3: We don't get any topic about this. Look, I mean,
Speaker 3: the the moderators that they might as well wear Biden
Speaker 3: campaign hats uh and that that that is just where
Speaker 3: the press is and they're even worse now. But but
Speaker 3: every word Biden said there was a deliberate lie. And
Speaker 3: by the way, Hunter Biden knew was an absolute fact
Speaker 3: the laptop was accurate then, which means either Joe Biden
Speaker 3: knew as a fact that it was accurate, or if
Speaker 3: he didn't know, it's because he didn't want to know
Speaker 3: it he didn't ask his son. Those are the two options.
Speaker 3: So he was lying, and he was he was lying
Speaker 3: because it helped him politically. And and the person who
Speaker 3: organized that letter was Tony Blincoln. The reward for doing that,
Speaker 3: Blncoln becomes the US Secretary of state.
Speaker 1: That's how important it was.
Speaker 4: That letter saved him. I mean, let's be queer.
Speaker 2: I don't think he would have been Joe Biden would
Speaker 2: be president now if it wasn't for that letter.
Speaker 3: And and it was a flat out lie. And and
Speaker 3: you look at the press, all right, take a listen
Speaker 3: to Leslie Stall when she's interviewing Trump and and and
Speaker 3: she's making very much the same point.
Speaker 4: It's this.
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: And you don't cover it. You want to talk about
Speaker 5: it because you want to talk about insignificant things.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: Of course, it can be verified. They found the laptop, Leslie, listen, verified.
Speaker 4: What can't be verified? The laptop?
Speaker 6: Why you said it?
Speaker 5: Even the family hasn't the family on the laptop. He's
Speaker 5: gone into hiding for five days. He's gone into hiding.
Speaker 4: He's prepared for your debate.
Speaker 5: Let's take them five days to prepare.
Speaker 4: I doubt I did.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's get back to the name I will that.
Speaker 2: So let's let's just get back to the name calling here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna move on. We can't talk about it because.
Speaker 1: I've got an agenda.
Speaker 3: I've got an agenda and and facts can't get in
Speaker 3: the way. Look, Leslie Stall pretends she's a journalist. That's
Speaker 3: sixty minutes. That's CBS, and what she's saying it can't
Speaker 3: be verified as a flat out live of course it
Speaker 3: could be verified. It's called journalism. But CBS had no
Speaker 3: interest in doing journalism, nor do they now, you know,
Speaker 3: if Leslie Stall she said there, well, well they're busy,
Speaker 3: they're preparing for the debate. So so you can't expect
Speaker 3: them to respond to the overwhelming evidence of corruption because
Speaker 3: you know, let's get back to the name calling. I'm
Speaker 3: busy attacking you, Donald Trump. So so so don't you
Speaker 3: bring up anything that that that that Biden is doing.
Speaker 3: And and you know, look, if if Leslie Stall, if
Speaker 3: any journalist had a shred of integrity, they would stand
Speaker 3: up and say I was totally wrong. What I said
Speaker 3: was false. I didn't do my job, and I apologize.
Speaker 3: She's not gonna do that. None of them are. And
Speaker 3: by the way, the people who have signed this letter,
Speaker 3: they're not coming back and admitting, Okay, I was completely
Speaker 3: full of crap and I lied to the American people
Speaker 3: right before an election, and it influenced the election profoundly.
Speaker 2: Not just that James Clapper toad Fox, is that he
Speaker 2: stands by the letter of the laptop.
Speaker 1: You know, the.
Speaker 3: Biden intelligence and the Obama intelligence hardcore partisans. Facts have
Speaker 3: no bearing for them. They are so partisan they will
Speaker 3: stick to their line no matter what.
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Speaker 4: Senator.
Speaker 2: One other question I want to ask you about your
Speaker 2: trip before we wrap things up, is you met with
Speaker 2: a guy by the names Zelenski. Now, what matters the
Speaker 2: most to me was was he wearing a suit or
Speaker 2: was he still wearing the millilitary fatigues.
Speaker 4: I just I got to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was in the military fatigues. That's what
Speaker 3: he wears every day.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean back in the good old days
Speaker 2: when he was meeting with Trump and you guys, he
Speaker 2: was wearing a suit when he came to ask for money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ever since the war started, he's in the fatigues every day,
Speaker 3: and so he was in kind of an olive green sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: So you meet with them, and he's got a bunch
Speaker 2: more money, a couple, you know, a couple hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars more two hundred and something I think is is
Speaker 2: what Biden said during this trip that he was going
Speaker 2: to give to them again. You guys met with him.
Speaker 2: What was it like this time and what did he
Speaker 2: have to say.
Speaker 3: So, well, there was a group of Senators that went
Speaker 3: to D Day for the eightieth anniversary of D Day,
Speaker 3: went to Normandy, and there were nineteen senators. It was
Speaker 3: a big, big trip, and there were I think fifty
Speaker 3: three House members, so it was a significant percentage of
Speaker 3: the United States Congress. And so Zelenski sat down had
Speaker 3: a meeting with all the senators and then after that
Speaker 3: he had a meeting with the House members. So both
Speaker 3: sides sat down and met with him. We met in
Speaker 3: in the historic Talleyrand Hotel, which is this beautiful hotel
Speaker 3: in Paris that actually the US government now owns. It's
Speaker 3: no longer a hotel, and it is where the Marshall
Speaker 3: Plan was signed. And so there's a big room that
Speaker 3: has gold, you know, gold on the ceiling. It's very
Speaker 3: elaborate and and it it's a historic, historic meeting space.
Speaker 3: So that's where we met and it was a good discussion. Look,
Speaker 3: Zelensky was there with several of his aides and he
Speaker 3: was describing what is happening, and he was you know,
Speaker 3: he is a a wartime leader and listen, there that
Speaker 3: there are some there are some who are big critics
Speaker 3: of Zelenski. I don't put myself in that camp. I
Speaker 3: think he is trying to defend his nation from an invasion,
Speaker 3: and an invasion from Russian Vladimir Putin is a bad guy.
Speaker 3: And so Zelensky is doing what what you would hope
Speaker 3: any leader when his country is at war is doing,
Speaker 3: which is trying to defend his country and trying to
Speaker 3: get help wherever he can get it. And so he's
Speaker 3: coming in and he's asking for American help, uh, and
Speaker 3: and he's laying out his goals in the war. And
Speaker 3: so he laid them out, and then then each of
Speaker 3: us had the opportunity to ask ask questions. My principal
Speaker 3: question I asked him, I said, how would you define victory?
Speaker 3: What does victory mean? And what is the path to
Speaker 3: getting there? Look, I want Russia to lose the difficulty,
Speaker 3: and I got to say that question that I asked.
Speaker 3: He didn't really answer me on how he would define victory.
Speaker 3: He has another context, define victory as as Ukraine winning
Speaker 3: back essentially every square inch of territory that Russia has taken.
Speaker 3: I understand why Zelensky would say that's victory. If if
Speaker 3: you were Zelensky, you'd probably say the same thing. But
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it is in the United States'
Speaker 3: interest to demand every square inch of territory be taken back.
Speaker 3: The reason we have an interest in this war is
Speaker 3: that we want we do not want our enemy Russia
Speaker 3: to win and get stronger, uh and and instead we
Speaker 3: want Russia to be weaker so that they're less able
Speaker 3: to pose a threat to America. They're also, by the way,
Speaker 3: very very significant resources, in particular rare earth minerals in
Speaker 3: Ukraine that are critical for the economy going forward. One
Speaker 3: of the reasons Russia's invading Ukraine is is to get
Speaker 3: a stranglehold on those rare earth minerals. We don't want
Speaker 3: putin to have those those those that would not be
Speaker 3: good for America.
Speaker 1: Uh and and so.
Speaker 3: But but you know what was really striking Ben is
Speaker 3: in the meeting with Zelenski, and we also had a
Speaker 3: classified meeting with with senior leaders of the Pentagon talking
Speaker 3: about details of what exactly is happening in the war,
Speaker 3: where the battles are, where the victories are, where the
Speaker 3: losses are, and and it was a very interesting and
Speaker 3: worthwhile briefing.
Speaker 5: But but.
Speaker 3: The question of what does victory mean? This administration is
Speaker 3: not asking that question. No Democrat in that room is
Speaker 3: asking that question. What is victory? And I got to
Speaker 3: say it, really, you know, when it struck me, it
Speaker 3: is we went out to lunch two days ago at
Speaker 3: a little Paris cafe in between meetings, and we're sitting
Speaker 3: there at lunch talking and I was most of the
Speaker 3: senators there at the lunch table were Democrats, and they
Speaker 3: were all talking about Vietnam. And it struck me looking
Speaker 3: around the table that they're all baby boomers, They're all
Speaker 3: children of Vietnam. They all kind of got their start
Speaker 3: in politics protesting against Vietnam. And look for you and me,
Speaker 3: I mean, neither of us were alive when Vietnam was
Speaker 3: a thing. You weren't alive at all. And I was
Speaker 3: like two when the Vietnam War ended, So I have
Speaker 3: no memories. Vietnam did not impact my awareness of the world.
Speaker 3: It was done by the time I was learning about
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: I got to say a lot of the boomers, particularly
Speaker 3: the Democrat boomers, they took the wrong lesson from Vietnam.
Speaker 3: And I think there are lots of lessons to take
Speaker 3: from Vietnam, but one of the central ones is that
Speaker 3: you should have a clear, defined objective that you know
Speaker 3: what it is that is directly related to your national
Speaker 3: security that is achievable. You should have a plan to
Speaker 3: achieve it, and then you should get the hell out.
Speaker 3: And Vietnam, we just let it go on and on
Speaker 3: and on and be a quagmire and just kept pouring
Speaker 3: money and American soldiers and lives into it without a
Speaker 3: clear objective that we were willing to use overwhelming force
Speaker 3: to accomplish. This administration has no objective they can articulate one.
Speaker 3: They're not even asking that question. That is infuriating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 2: Well and again for so many Americans, it's like, what
Speaker 2: does the end look like? How long could we be
Speaker 2: in this? And how much money is it going to
Speaker 2: cost it? The White House has made it clear, and
Speaker 2: I think it should be an issue in the upcoming
Speaker 2: debate how long is America going to do this? And
Speaker 2: how much money could this last? The White House has said,
Speaker 2: will be with you forever, no matter what. And that's
Speaker 2: a lot of cash for a lot of Americans that
Speaker 2: we're going to be spending on this without their being
Speaker 2: as some to have described, I think without Like you said,
Speaker 2: what does victory look like? What does that actually look like?
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