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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: What Up Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Invisi Line.

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Speaker 4: Here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Ayisha Morrison,

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Speaker 4: Jesstin Varez, and Breonna Aldridge. Ladies, what's popping?

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Speaker 3: How y'all doing? Hey? Hey, what's the s Been a minute?

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Speaker 5: Hey? Hey, is just the only one to hear with

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Speaker 5: some interview?

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Speaker 6: Guess yet today?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'm awake.

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Speaker 3: Dang, she wasn't even listening to you.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I think she needed it live. No, no, no, she

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Speaker 3: needs it live.

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Speaker 6: Alright.

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Speaker 3: Jesus time, I know what it is again because two

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Speaker 3: days until two days.

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Speaker 8: Before my birthday, So you on need to set an

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Speaker 8: alarm new soon two days and like blow up her Twitter,

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Speaker 8: blow up her Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd appreciate.

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Speaker 8: Just get crazy, get crazy in the comments, wish you

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Speaker 8: her happy birthday. Yeah, Larry know.

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Speaker 3: It's a crazy time though, right, is it really? My Saila?

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Speaker 4: Is Zach Martin's officially retiring as a Dallas Cowboy?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: He announced it, well, it was reported a couple of

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Speaker 3: days ago. Zach Martin.

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Speaker 4: You just talk about the season that he has has

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Speaker 4: had here, Eleven seasons, Uh, the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: twenty ten All Decade Team, seven time All Pro, nine

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Speaker 4: time Pro Bowler, only seven career holding penalties, that's insane.

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Speaker 4: But just talking about and reflecting on the career that

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Speaker 4: you know, Zach Martin has had here, just kind of thoughts,

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Speaker 4: first reactions when you guys heard the news.

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Speaker 5: I was happy for him, Yeah, I was happy for him.

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Speaker 5: I mean like it was bittersweet obviously seeing someone that

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Speaker 7: But he's been a staple.

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Speaker 5: He's been very important to what the Cowboys have wanted

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Speaker 5: to do, but also to just the example he sets,

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Speaker 5: the leader that he is as a person, how he

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Speaker 5: treats his family, all those things. It is a it's

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Speaker 5: a big loss. We're talking about a surefire Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Anytime you lose one of those people, you're gonna feel

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Speaker 7: So for me, I was just happy for him.

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Speaker 5: I'm always happy when guys, you know, feel fulfilled in

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Speaker 5: of football, because it's not an easy decision for any

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Speaker 5: of them, I'm sure.

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Speaker 7: So just happy for.

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Speaker 5: Him again, a little bittersweet because that means you've got

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Speaker 5: no problems this way, but him as a person, Very

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Speaker 5: happy for him, very happy for his family.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure they're going to be excited to have him

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Speaker 8: Yeah, growing up watching the Cowboys, it's always sad when

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Speaker 8: you see these legendary players finally decide that it's time.

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Speaker 8: But I wasn't too surprised by it. In fact, I

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Speaker 8: does this impact the current team, and not even so

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Speaker 8: much like the order of the offensive line and who's

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Speaker 8: But this is a guy that he doesn't just teach

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Speaker 3: The this is the end.

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Speaker 7: That ankle was bothering him even last year, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't really put into words what Zach Martin's

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Speaker 4: him and his family as he kind of transitions to

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Speaker 4: life after football. But it's a whole lot of transition

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Speaker 4: in here, specifically for this offensive line. Really good, oh

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Speaker 3: This offensive line.

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Speaker 4: There's just still a lot of questions in terms of

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Speaker 4: Faith in brock Kauffman or do you have faith more

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Speaker 3: Possibly this season? Anybody can, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: You already know what Brockaffman can do at center.

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Speaker 3: So excited for both of them.

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Speaker 8: And what I really like about this offensive line is

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Speaker 9: I think it's like a scary but exciting thing because

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Speaker 3: That's so much.

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Speaker 9: We keeps using the word familiarity for the offensive side

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Speaker 9: like knowing again the familiarity there with what they what

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Speaker 9: And then I would not be surprised if the Cowboys.

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Speaker 9: At first, I was like, they're not gonna I think

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Speaker 9: This point, I'm sorry that wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 5: So because like when I look at the Dallas offensive

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Speaker 5: become a really good center. I think he's obviously developing.

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Speaker 5: that draft tape was something to be admired, So I do.

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Speaker 5: He's an adequate starter in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 7: But when you look.

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Speaker 7: You don't. You can find.

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Speaker 5: And and that might. Honestly, it would be even better

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Speaker 8: Round because it takes time to train and convert any

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Speaker 3: What to do.

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Speaker 8: Look ideally, that's how you figure out that situation. Aisha

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Speaker 7: That skill positions are.

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Speaker 3: Much needed, much much needed. Look around the NFL.

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Speaker 4: The top offensive lineman free agencies, free agents, Trey Smith

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Speaker 3: What position will Coi Beck play.

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Speaker 5: You might be able to give him for two dollars

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Speaker 3: They got Ravens gotta tackle.

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Speaker 5: So if Dallas does want to attack free agency and

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, Connor Riley, who on this offensive line, do

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Speaker 7: The most out of maybe who we hope?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, outside from Cooper, Sorry, let me outside of Cooper,

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Speaker 8: don't want to it's a little I don't know, he

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Speaker 8: was following me Taylor got in.

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Speaker 3: He's he's a I'm not talking about like human being.

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Speaker 9: I'm talking about like it's just kind of like mellow

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Speaker 3: I feel like he was just feeling. You could tell

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And it was just kind of like I saw him,

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Speaker 9: his second season he just can get out of his

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Speaker 9: So that's what I from him.

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Speaker 7: I would say, Terren Steele form me.

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Speaker 5: Tern Steel is a gentleman that obviously went through the

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Speaker 5: ACL He's the only offensive lineman that you have on

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Speaker 5: What is the coach's name, Connor Riley, in regard to

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Speaker 5: how he like sugar, in regard to how they like

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Speaker 5: If I'm let me go back, what who's the who's

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Speaker 5: the other who's the offensive coordinator? Clayton Adams? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 5: but Clayton Adams in the way that he likes to

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Speaker 5: run the ball is it's obviously creative, but it intends

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Speaker 5: past pro with that. But I just think the things

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Speaker 8: Dang, I'm gonna be different because y'all sick the top two.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go a little different round. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 3: I personally see him.

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Speaker 8: Becoming that offensive line leader this But what I want

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Speaker 3: Especially with that is that Martin you're going to need that.

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Speaker 8: And I feel like Tyler Smith has slowly but surely

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Speaker 8: And so I think Tyler Smith, if he continues on

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Speaker 8: So I need a coaching stuff that's supportive of that

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Speaker 5: That's a good that's a good one because I see

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Speaker 5: you'll see.

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Speaker 7: So that was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Big this offensive line is That's what I'm nuggets. But

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Speaker 3: that's what that was my point.

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Speaker 4: Like the youngest oldest, sorry, oldest.

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Speaker 3: There's still they're little. They're all younger than us.

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Speaker 7: I mean, but Hoffman have been in the league though

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Speaker 8: Bed I think, yeah, he might be might be Hoffman,

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Speaker 7: But they are very young. Your point such a.

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Speaker 8: Luxury to have a young offensive line that gets to

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Speaker 8: grow together. And that's the point is, if you can

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Speaker 8: could be looking at such a strong offensive line in

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Speaker 8: the next few years. If anything that's exciting for Cowboys

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Speaker 8: fans going forward, it should be the strength that this

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Speaker 7: Well, that's where I'm at.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, give me whatever it's gonna be, make it

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Speaker 5: what it need to be, Like if this stop doing

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Speaker 5: this game going back, like, if it's gonna be like

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Speaker 5: and keep stay healthy. How many times do we talk

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to say them together.

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Speaker 9: First week start, I remember it was like like every

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Speaker 9: We already see so like at that point and that

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Speaker 7: Is the time to win games as many as you can.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a little.

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Speaker 3: An offensive lineman, you don't.

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Speaker 8: Have that stability to play every single game like you

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Speaker 7: Uh just what.

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Speaker 4: Does them obviously beginning the talks with uh, oh so

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Speaker 4: you about their intentions this season this off season?

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Speaker 5: Already said it he did, He said, he like, hey,

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Speaker 5: this man is important.

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Speaker 7: He smart.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he heard your letter last week. Probably, Yeah, I

530
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Speaker 3: think that's what.

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Speaker 7: Even flu you ain't got no DT.

532
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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm talking about Stephen Jones. Maybe they heard

533
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Speaker 3: our letters.

534
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Speaker 5: Probably, But I just think it's also too that there's

535
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Speaker 5: a demand.

536
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Speaker 7: We talked about it.

537
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Speaker 5: There's a demand, like there are people who are.

538
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Speaker 7: Interested in OSA.

539
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Speaker 5: I being nosy, I was like, oh, y'all like to like.

540
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Speaker 7: You know, so them trying to get ahead of it.

541
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Speaker 5: At this point, it's still kind of behind, but we

542
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Speaker 5: will tell what we can get. I'm actually happy to

543
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Speaker 5: see that they're trying to get it settled out and

544
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Speaker 5: and I know OSA wants to be here, so let's

545
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Speaker 5: just get it over with and then you can start

546
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Speaker 5: again to your point earlier, to your point earlier, just

547
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Speaker 5: is like, just like the offensive line, If I know

548
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Speaker 5: what my defensive line look like, life is going to

549
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Speaker 5: be easier moving forward, especially going into the draft. So

550
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Speaker 5: I'm happy that they're prioritizing it right now. I hope

551
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Speaker 5: something good comes from it. Do you guys, Do you

552
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 5: ladies see him being franchise tag?

553
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Speaker 3: Possibly? I don't. What does it make sense? Doesn't make

554
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Speaker 3: sense to.

555
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Speaker 7: Have to look at the use the tag.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to look at the price of the tag.

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Speaker 5: They didn't use their franchise tag last year, So I

558
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Speaker 5: wonder if twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five who else could be franchise tag?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 8: Who do you think, Micah? Depending on the price, Depending

562
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Speaker 8: on the price. No, I'm just saying I don't if

563
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Speaker 8: you ask realistically, that could Yeah, talk about a five Now,

564
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Speaker 8: we're not manifesting that, we're manifesting. This still gets done.

565
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Speaker 8: Both deals get done and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, truly. I mean I don't want to be the

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Speaker 3: Debbie Downer, but.

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Speaker 9: This, this organization doesn't have a great reputation right of

569
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Speaker 9: getting deals done in a timely matter one needs to

570
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Speaker 9: get and that's why they're in the position that they're

571
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Speaker 9: in right now. This is why Micah's contract is raining

572
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Speaker 9: down in this moment, right because if this was done,

573
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Speaker 9: OSA probably wouldn't be that serious because you already got

574
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Speaker 9: Micah down. So they put themselves in a situation where

575
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Speaker 9: the free agency in this position is just not that glamorous.

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00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: OSA is one of the top guys.

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Speaker 9: And when you're looking at the free agency we've talked

578
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Speaker 9: about this last week, there's no guarantees when you put

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Speaker 9: your hand into that draft. There's nothing guarantees as soon

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Speaker 9: as you get that person on the field that they're

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Speaker 9: just gonna magically make an impact. So they need someone

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Speaker 9: who's gonna make an impact automatically looking around the league,

583
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Speaker 9: and this is what I wanted to ask you guys today.

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Speaker 9: So we got the highest DT in the league. Obviously,

585
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 9: it's Chris Jones thirty one million a year coming from

586
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Speaker 9: the Chiefs, right, you go, top ten. Dexter Lawrence is

587
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 9: twenty one million a year. That's top ten. So I

588
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 9: ask you guys, is Osa top ten DT in this league?

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00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said to make possibly twenty one million or

591
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: more on if he gets a new deal.

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Speaker 5: Sotly, I think a lot of people will argue no, really,

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Speaker 5: but they're not correct.

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00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people will argue no.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, this past year, I think what's probably his best

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00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 5: year as a cowboy. I feel like he is going

597
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 5: to be more productive and I have seen a difference

598
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Speaker 5: in him on tape and productive production wise when he

599
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: does have a true nose next to him because he

600
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: is a three tech. This is a past rushing three

601
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Speaker 5: tech as well, which is his strength. So it's one

602
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Speaker 5: of those things too where it's like, do you have

603
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: to look at his I look at osa in like

604
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: a different perspective.

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Speaker 7: I look at him year to year. What did he

606
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 7: develop on? How did he get better here?

607
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Speaker 5: I think what we saw from him last year is

608
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Speaker 5: what we should expect from him moving forward.

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Speaker 7: Is he's going to rush the past or he's going

610
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Speaker 7: to be disruptive.

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Speaker 5: You can use him in twist, you can use him

612
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: across the offensive line, and we'll see him be successful now,

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00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: I think. But like I said, I think a lot

614
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: of people wouldn't would argue that he's not top ten

615
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: just based off of the fact that they haven't seen

616
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: it consistently, like year after year after year. But at

617
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: the same time, can we just talked about it. Defensive

618
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 5: tackle takes time to develop, So now he's kind of

619
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Speaker 5: going into that place to where, again, what we see

620
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Speaker 5: is what we're probably gonna get. If you're telling me

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get the last nine weeks of the.

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Speaker 7: Season, Osa, how do we nurture that? How do we

623
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 7: figure out how to cap that consistently?

624
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Speaker 5: Because the last nine eight to nine weeks he was

625
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: one of the best detackles in the league. He was

626
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: what top ten and rush stops, he was top three

627
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: in pressures. So it's like consistency that people can see

628
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 5: a team that needs to win right now. But again,

629
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Speaker 5: when you look at the market right now, OSA is

630
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Speaker 5: the top dog.

631
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 9: Other teams are gonna come. If not calling, they're calling

632
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 9: now now. Stephen Jones says, we're having conversations. Okay, well

633
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 9: we know what the market is. So are y'all going

634
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 9: in there and be like, hey, appreciate what you've done.

635
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 9: Here's fifteen mil. What am I gonna do with this?

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00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 8: Well?

637
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: They got that spirit, they got that spirit their.

638
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 9: Putting money on the table, and that's where I think

639
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 9: is the issue. Like everyone's getting excited that conversation are happening.

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00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't give a little credit. Thank you

641
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: for having this conversation before the combine. Okay, that is good, Yes.

642
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: But.

643
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Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not bodying. I'm not buying in because

644
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 9: I've seen how and not just this team. I've covered

645
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 9: two other NFL's teams. GM say one thing and then

646
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 9: you look, that person's gone, and we back with two

647
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 9: for the price of one.

648
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Speaker 3: And that's that's a little bit scary to me. I

649
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Speaker 3: don't know.

650
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Speaker 8: I think OSAs say also matters in this because I

651
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 8: know he would like to stay in Dallas ideally, Like

652
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Speaker 8: I have multiple sources that can confirm that that I've

653
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Speaker 8: talked to that continue to say that. If it's up

654
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Speaker 8: to him, I think he chooses to stay.

655
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 9: Now.

656
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 8: Do I think he should take a pay cut if

657
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: somebody else is offering something better. No, I don't think

658
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 8: that for any player in any situation. But I do

659
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Speaker 8: think Osa wants to stay here, wants to continue to

660
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 8: play here.

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Speaker 3: And if people want to argue he's not a.

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Speaker 8: Top ten better better for the Cowboys, look, you don't

663
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Speaker 8: have to you don't have to argue with anyone, right,

664
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Speaker 8: but uh, is he a top ten to your point, Bree.

665
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Speaker 8: I think in terms of money, he's probably estimated to

666
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 8: get paid like one, but I don't I don't really care.

667
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 8: I just need osa Re signed on this roster because

668
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 8: he can be a top ten or not.

669
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: The Cowboys need him.

670
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 8: Otherwise you're in a more desperate situation without him than

671
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 8: you are with him on this offensive line, especially not

672
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 8: knowing what's gonna happen with Tank, especially not knowing the

673
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 8: health of Tank if if he returns Micah, not knowing

674
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 8: that situation, with that contract, there's a lot of question

675
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 8: marks and with those quests could be very negative outcomes.

676
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it, but you could.

677
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 8: You could have a very empty defensive line if none

678
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 8: of those things work out. So for me, if you're

679
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 8: starting conversations about one of those dominoes falling, that's what

680
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 8: I need to hear, because at this point you could

681
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 8: be three for three, one for three, two for three,

682
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 8: or none at all. Like that's the reality of this business,

683
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 8: in this situation that the Cowboys are in this year.

684
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 8: So if you start with one, maybe the other dominoes

685
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 8: will fall in a line. But for me, get him

686
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 8: paid right, see what he wants. Go from there and

687
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 8: I do think just in terms of business, like, yeah,

688
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 8: look when we get job offers, Okay, do we sit

689
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 8: there and we take the first offer? No, you do

690
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 8: a little back and forth. You know you're worth you

691
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 8: sit there and you kind of go back and forth.

692
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think if it's up to Osa, he

693
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 8: he does want to stay in Dallas.

694
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: What do y'all think DeMarcus Lawrence is gonna do?

695
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 9: Lee?

696
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: Well, not, don't. I don't think. I don't know how

697
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: to say that.

698
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be really short, That's all I got.

699
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 7: I don't see it.

700
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 9: I don't.

701
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: You don't you don't see them resigning him, or you

702
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: don't see him playing football.

703
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 7: I don't see them resigning him.

704
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: I will say in regard to the fact that he's

705
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 5: had multiple foot injuries and those things, like, I'm sure

706
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: DLA probably feels like he still can play, so I

707
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised to see him in the commander sure

708
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 5: see stop. However, however, however, I do think, yeah, I

709
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: don't see it. Here back to the Oster conversation though,

710
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: when you look into this draft and this is that's

711
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: the part that's stressing me out because I know how

712
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 5: these folks here work, and this defensive tackle class is

713
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: one of the best we have seen in years.

714
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so you want to miss they want to miss

715
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: the mark if.

716
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 5: Our team like, yeah, the team like coupons may be

717
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: at the register holding up the line.

718
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: Everybody left some phone.

719
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 7: So but but they're gonna whip out.

720
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: I already know what you're talking about too.

721
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 7: They're gonna whip out that coupon.

722
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to see no coupon.

723
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 7: I don't want to see it either.

724
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: But I want to say that the fact that this

725
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: draft class is so rich at that position, I want

726
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 5: to add to what you got.

727
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 7: I think it's smart to add too.

728
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 5: Not necessarily replace Micah and all those stuff and start over.

729
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: But baby, like you're Linnville, Joseph gonna be on this

730
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: team again, I'm just Carlos Watkins is gonna be on

731
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 5: this scene again. You don't have any three texts. This

732
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: is not a conversation like this is not I think

733
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 5: it's so pointless. And understand people talking about the money

734
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 5: and stuff.

735
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Who cares you do start with nothing?

736
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 5: What you gonna do? Start with nothing?

737
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 7: Who's gonna go play three tech?

738
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 9: I mean every we talk about this seting us right, bye,

739
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 9: this is.

740
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: It's not I'm not it's not if I have to

741
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: do it, be upset.

742
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, y'all.

743
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 3: It's it's time to spend the check.

744
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 5: It's time to spend the money.

745
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 9: You're behind because you put yourself in the situation. This

746
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 9: is a copycat league. It's time to copycat. You got

747
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 9: the people in your division doing it the right way.

748
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 9: Just take a couple of pages. You just gotta figure it.

749
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 9: You gotta figure it out money wise. You gotta pay

750
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 9: what you know works, ohso works for this team and

751
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 9: what they have.

752
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: Micah needs to be next.

753
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 9: And that has to be put to bed because I

754
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 9: said it before. Having Micah on your team and taken

755
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 9: care of and guaranteed for how many every years to come?

756
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 9: That is a bargaining chip when you go get the

757
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 9: next guy who wants to win championships. I come from

758
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 9: a franchise that didn't win this long drought, and when

759
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 9: they finally started winning, when I was talking to players,

760
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 9: well why did you come here?

761
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: Well, von Miller's on.

762
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 9: The team, and I respect von Miller and I think

763
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 9: he's got some years left. I've seen him just win

764
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 9: a championship. And do that somewhere else. This is a

765
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 9: win now team, right, This is that's the purpose. You

766
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 9: got Dak in his prime. If you will still pushing it.

767
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 9: You just signed CD, you have Micah Barsonsaria. Those are

768
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 9: bargaining hips for people who want to come and win.

769
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 9: But you have to start showing that you're doing something different,

770
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 9: and that is spending the check, spaying the money.

771
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Sorry, I all gonna say it says a lot about

772
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: them starting with Osa rather than getting Michaeh's contract done.

773
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna bring that. I was gonna bring that up,

774
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: but you don't. You don't want to get me st

775
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: But they're like schimmatically.

776
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 5: They're roadies and like you said, also makes a Micah

777
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 5: better and Michael makes an OSA better.

778
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: I mean, and they're But here's my thing. I'm talking cap.

779
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 8: You know, salary cap. That's all we hear about right here.

780
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 8: It's not and it's important.

781
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

782
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 8: If you want to have the flexibility to pay these

783
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 8: players such as and ohso what they want to get paid,

784
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 8: guess what you need to do first is pay Micah.

785
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 8: And it's like the big contracts that come up every year.

786
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 8: We have the same conversation last year was if you

787
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 8: pay Dak, you can get all these free agents, you

788
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 8: can have all this flexibility, you can pay your guys.

789
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.

790
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 8: I don't want to have that conversation again this summer,

791
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 8: but I feel like probably will just based on history

792
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 8: and what history tells us here. So I will be

793
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 8: interested to see what price OSA can and will take

794
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 8: if Micah's contract is not taken first, because it makes

795
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 8: you wonder how much more could have been offered if

796
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 8: Osa decides to go elsewhere.

797
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: For more money, If that makes any sense.

798
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: I care about the messaging too, No for sure, And

799
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: what I mean by that is Osa has done his job,

800
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 5: He's earned his next contract. The man has also been

801
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: very reliable. I think I mentioned last week, only missing

802
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: one game his whole.

803
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 7: Career thus far.

804
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 5: So you're talking about durability, you're talking about now production

805
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: as he's developing. He's extremely coachable. He doesn't give you

806
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: any problem outside the locker room. He's a locker room guy.

807
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 5: If a guy does all of that, why is it

808
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 5: so hard for him to get what he's what he's earned?

809
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: And I look at a guy like a Marshawn Neeland

810
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: who's young and coming up like, set the example, set

811
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 5: the tone. If you, like Bri said, if you want

812
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 5: to change how people look at this team, and if

813
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: you want more players to want to come here, treat

814
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: your own like you need to, and that is going

815
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: to spread through your locker room and and things like that.

816
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: Because again, like if I'm a young guy like Kneeland

817
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: and I see that Osa. They're different position groups. But

818
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 5: I see if Osa and work this tail, I've been consistent,

819
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: barely missed games, been healthy, been productive, and he has

820
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: to go through the ringer to get his.

821
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: Payday and what's look at them crazy?

822
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: No, it's messaging matters as well, and it sets the

823
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: tone for your locker room.

824
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 3: And it's not it's not changing the Dacks contract.

825
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 9: You knew what the market was, Micah, you know what

826
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 9: the market is.

827
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: You know you have to pay him now.

828
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 9: Osa, I'll give a little grace because I think even

829
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 9: talking to you guys, okay, like, what do you think

830
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 9: it's a little between. It's a little bit in between.

831
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 9: So that makes a little bit more sense. But Micah,

832
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: there's no reason why we're still talking about that contract.

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Speaker 3: Bus y'all's favorite barbecue out here. I'm Hutchins Barbers. Oh

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Speaker 3: it's so good, so bomb, so bomb.

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Speaker 7: It's right I go to. I go to Okay for

890
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Speaker 7: my barbecue.

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Speaker 3: There's also one in.

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Speaker 7: I did go to Hutches. I've been to Hutchins. I

893
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 7: like Ardados. That was pretty good.

894
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Speaker 3: I thought that they.

895
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Speaker 5: Serve it in the they serve it in the in

896
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Speaker 5: the stadium. I think in the Baseball sta anyway, that's

897
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Speaker 5: pretty good. It's like an infusion of Mexican food.

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Speaker 7: And barbecue bomb bom bomb.

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Speaker 5: But I do yourself a favorite, go get you a

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Speaker 5: baked potato from records in Dallas. You said, infusion, Oh here,

901
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Speaker 5: what your guy is coming?

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Speaker 7: What sister?

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Speaker 3: What quarterback room.

904
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Speaker 7: Has it was there?

905
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Speaker 3: It was there.

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Speaker 4: The infusion is there with like different abilities from each

907
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 4: quarterback that they have on the roster right now, Dak Prescott,

908
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 4: you know what the heck?

909
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we got.

910
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Speaker 3: We got what I tried. That's right, I tried. Anyways,

911
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: the Cowboys say they want to drive the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: That obviously means that Trey Lance will no longer be

913
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Speaker 4: here in Dallas, which is crazy because they gave up

914
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Speaker 4: a fourth round pick for him.

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Speaker 3: But we're not gonna talk about that.

916
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Speaker 4: But I do want to talk about real fast before

917
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: we do have to go, is why do you guys

918
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: feel like Trey Lance wasn't a good fit?

919
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Speaker 3: And I'll start with you just.

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Speaker 8: To be honest, I just feel like the lack of

921
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 8: opportunity wasn't there for him to actually grow where it mattered,

922
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Speaker 8: which was game time reps. And I think this season

923
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Speaker 8: was potentially his greatest chance at getting those game time reps.

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Speaker 3: Especially when Dak went out.

925
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 8: Cowboys were out of playoff contention. There was a lot

926
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Speaker 8: of opportunity there for him. So for me, I'm just

927
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 8: going to give it to lack of opportunity. I don't

928
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 8: really think it's his lack of effort. I saw effort

929
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 8: being put in for him to grow and learn, literally

930
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 8: from his first day of being so behind and so

931
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Speaker 8: confused at how the quarterback drills work to him kind

932
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 8: of learning and growing, and I saw that whole progression,

933
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Speaker 8: even in just the small portions we had to practice.

934
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Speaker 3: But to give up that fourth round pick just as tough.

935
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Speaker 8: Some notable names coming from the fourth round Jake Ferguson,

936
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Speaker 8: Tyler Piottish, Tony Pollard, Dorn's Armstrong, Dalton Schultz, Ryan Switzer,

937
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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott so oh, you know only one right, however,

938
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 8: not that he coaches, Yeah, go ahead, everything, Well, I

939
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 8: just want to point out how significant that fourth round was.

940
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Speaker 8: You're right, and for what because guess who's also back

941
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Speaker 8: wildcare So.

942
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Speaker 3: It's frustrating.

943
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Speaker 8: But to wrap it up, I don't think it was

944
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Speaker 8: on Trey Lance's lack of effort. I really hope whatever

945
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Speaker 8: happens for him going forward, he gets the opportunity to

946
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Speaker 8: put more of that effort in wherever he happens.

947
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Speaker 3: To go next.

948
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm honestly mad at like the more that I

949
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: think about his career as a whole. To start, I'm

950
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 5: mad at everybody. Yep, I'm mad at everybody. I'm mad

951
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 5: at them for drafting him that Hi, I don't care

952
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Speaker 5: what anyone says. I'm sorry because I feel like from

953
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Speaker 5: the time he got in the league, the whole thing

954
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: has been.

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Speaker 7: He hasn't played that much. He hasn't played that much.

956
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Speaker 5: Ay, the NFL is not somewhere that you come to

957
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 5: learn how to play quarterback.

958
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Speaker 7: It is not.

959
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: No one has time for that in this league. Literally,

960
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Speaker 5: we hear them talk about with the NFLPA just a lot,

961
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Speaker 5: the limitations on practice, the limitations on how many how

962
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Speaker 5: much coaches can get their hands on.

963
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Speaker 7: You as a player.

964
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Speaker 5: He didn't. He never, to me, was in the position

965
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Speaker 5: to develop in the way that he needed to be

966
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: when he got in the league. Like he wasn't even

967
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 5: to me, he wasn't even a Jalen Hurts, and Jalen

968
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: Hurts went later because he had went to different teams

969
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: and people weren't too fond.

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Speaker 7: Of his production. Whatever the case may be, he wasn't

971
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Speaker 7: even there.

972
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Speaker 5: So for me, it's just like I think it's a

973
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 5: lesson learned for everybody in the league. And that's why

974
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: we're seeing even in this draft class quarterbacks, older quarterbacks

975
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 5: are starting to have value. People are okay with going

976
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: with the guy that's been in, that played college five years,

977
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: six years because they want the experience. So for me,

978
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: my heart goes out to him. I really feel for

979
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: him as a person and as a player because what

980
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: he was brought into was never like, it's not going

981
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 5: to serve you. No one in the NFL has time

982
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 5: to teach you how to be a quarterback. Can they

983
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 5: teach you how to be a better quarterback, yes, but

984
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: to be one absolutely not.

985
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, So empathize with him.

986
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 5: I hope everything works out with him, and that's how

987
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 5: I feel.

988
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 7: But I'm I'm mad at everybody.

989
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with literally everything you just said, because honestly,

990
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 9: I'm a barrier girl, right, So I'm keeping an eye

991
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 9: on the nineers of that time, and I was rooting

992
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 9: for him because it was a risk reward.

993
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 7: It was a very much award.

994
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 9: Twenty six games he started high school and college. If

995
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 9: you look at all the quarterbacks that came from that class,

996
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 9: the numbers are significant.

997
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: That was Like you said, we remember the storylines. It

998
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: didn't work.

999
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 9: So why the Cowboys decided to put all that faith

1000
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 9: and give up a fourth round pick is beyond me.

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00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: We know he's athletic, and I used to be like

1002
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: what he did something else? Like I played the quarterback

1003
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: like it's something.

1004
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 9: Else offensively because the boy is talented. But like you said,

1005
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 9: this is the NFL. We don't got time opportunity. McCarthy

1006
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 9: said that all the times more opportunity. This is not

1007
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 9: the place where you get opportunities. So almost feel bad

1008
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 9: for him because you saw the effort. I remember him

1009
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 9: going in and they had packages and he had negative

1010
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 9: three yards and came out for one play.

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00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: How what am I doing?

1012
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 9: Like, how do I get better as a player if

1013
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 9: that's what We're losing four games in a row and

1014
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 9: I get a shot one play and I come out

1015
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 9: because I make a mistake, Like I can't grow that way.

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00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 9: So I think he does make him he's young, Like

1017
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 9: I said, he's athletic. He might make his way to

1018
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 9: another roster, but it's not gonna be here, especially for

1019
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 9: a quarterback who is injury prone.

1020
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: Dak Krestow has two season injury season, any injuries.

1021
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 9: I we don't know what he's gonna come back as

1022
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 9: you need somebody who you could throw in there and

1023
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 9: can keep the band aid and keep it afloat, and

1024
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 9: it's not try lance for the team.

1025
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: We're going to dive into that quarterback position next week,

1026
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: but we have got to go so on that note,

1027
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: this has been a great show.

1028
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: Lad Time the way up, he go home, all right,

1029
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 6: Brian Morris and Justin Mars, Brianna Aldrejohnclehadchison will be back

1030
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Speaker 6: here next week.

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