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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: How the heck are all of you? Chris Brown Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker live at Bill's training camp as the days are

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Speaker 2: dwindling down here at Saint John Fisher University. One more sleep,

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Speaker 2: one more practice to go, and then we are out

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Speaker 2: of here, back down the throughway to Orchard Park for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the preseason. So practice today, I don't

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Speaker 2: know about you, but I thought the D line had

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Speaker 2: another good day. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The offense is starting to pick it up a.

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Speaker 2: Litt Yeah, but the D line they're looking stout the

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Speaker 2: heck of a group. It's also our topic of discussion,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into in a little bit here.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They they are impressive and they can come at you

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Speaker 2: in waves with all the people they got, and we'll

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Speaker 2: have one of those people here with us on set.

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Speaker 2: A little bit later on in the show. Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 2: will be joining us. Still not a full participant in

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Speaker 2: practice as of yet, but we'll get an update from

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Speaker 2: him as to just where he stands coming off the

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Speaker 2: offseason rotator cuff surgery twenty twenty two. Not a fun

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Speaker 2: season for him with the hamstring and the shoulder injury,

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Speaker 2: basically playing with one arm the last six weeks of

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Speaker 2: the season, right dragging himself out.

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Speaker 1: He's he's one of those know when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it, he's gonna be ready to go Week one.

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Speaker 1: They're taking it easy. You're not. You're not gonna take

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Speaker 1: a single snap. Probably will ask him, but he probably

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Speaker 1: not gonna take a single snap this game. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't expect to, you know, start to crescendo from there.

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Speaker 1: But a number of guys, even Vaughan's doing that. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're taking their sweet time with von Vaughan. You

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Speaker 1: and I were standing there watch Vaughn walks right by us,

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Speaker 1: and you know, hey, how's it going. He's he's big.

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Speaker 1: He's bigger than I thought he was because he on

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Speaker 1: the field, he doesn't have that that aura of being

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Speaker 1: a big dude. He is. Yeah, he's a he's put together.

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Speaker 1: He's a serious, serious customer. He is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, I I don't think there was

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Speaker 2: anything that was like, oh my god, the headline of

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Speaker 2: the day at practice, but there were some one on

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Speaker 2: one battles during team segments that I was particularly intrigued by.

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Speaker 2: They were, namely Greg Russou, and Leonard Floyd going up

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Speaker 2: against Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown. Heated one on one

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Speaker 2: battles between them, and some frustration clearly evident as well.

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Speaker 2: At the tail end of one play, Spencer Brown like

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Speaker 2: hip tossed Leonard Floyd like it was nothing, throw him

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Speaker 2: like five yards into the backfield at the end of

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Speaker 2: a play. And we know that Spencer's fuse might not

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Speaker 2: be quite as long as some others. And so when

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Speaker 2: you know he's in some hotly contested battles and he's

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Speaker 2: winning some and he's losing some, he had enough apparently. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Dawkins was going at it, you know, with Rousseau and

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Speaker 2: Floyd as well. I really enjoyed the pass rush pass

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Speaker 2: pro battles in team today. Was it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: I just found myself gravitating more to that than I

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Speaker 2: was following the ball I was watched. It was so entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they you can tell it's starting to pick up

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Speaker 1: and they're getting used to having pads on and banging

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Speaker 1: and getting more comfortable doing it again. After you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while since any of these guys have

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Speaker 1: done it. In the last couple of days, they only

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Speaker 1: started it's only been like, what three or four practices,

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Speaker 1: five practices, right, and so in pads, and you can

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Speaker 1: just see them start to get comfortable and start to

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Speaker 1: do some things that you weren't even on the menu

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Speaker 1: in the first couple of days. The hip toss is

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Speaker 2: Uh, I mean he threw them five yards.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Granted Floyd is running that way, so momentum was on

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Speaker 2: Spencer's side to kind of hip toss him, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a that's a big, long, six foot

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Speaker 1: We were sitting there at the back and back even

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Speaker 1: the play. On the pass route. Steph Diggs and Saran

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Speaker 1: You know, they couldn't they couldn't flinch for it. You know,

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Speaker 2: Just sometimes that's better though, right your body loose, that's

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Speaker 1: Maybe it turned out they were fine. So they both

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Speaker 1: and trainers run out there. Players are there standing around

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Speaker 1: looking at you know, what are are you okay? You know?

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Speaker 1: And Diggs is kind of roll It took him forever

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Speaker 1: could really tell. He was like just in pain. Finally

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Speaker 1: turns around. Josh actually helps him up. He walks over

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Speaker 1: to Saran, who then they were Latin in. They were

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Speaker 1: both they got up, Saran got them. They're both laughing,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, but that's starting to happen.

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Speaker 2: And Saran had the last life because he picked off

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen yep, during a team segment later in practice.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Josh, it was Kyle Kyle Allen, sorry it was Kyle.

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Speaker 2: H but a leaping interception athletic play by Saran, So

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Speaker 2: that was good to see.

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Speaker 1: He did the make believe two minute drill game.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they both bounced back fine. They were no

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Speaker 1: worse to wear, but the physicality of the practice is

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Speaker 1: starting to show up. In a lot of ways, not

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Speaker 1: just these random collisions you see, but like you said,

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Speaker 1: the one on one battles, Yeah, the intensity is up.

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Speaker 2: Dawson Knox had a particularly strong day in the passing game.

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Speaker 2: I would say this is the first day I've seen

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Speaker 2: where he was. He as the tight end was a

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Speaker 2: more prominent part of the passing attack than Dalton Kincaid was.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly the kind of sign that I want

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Speaker 2: to see. Here's Dalton Kincaid for the first week of

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Speaker 2: camp tearing it up four or five catches a day,

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Speaker 2: and now the defense has adjusted to him, and now Dawson.

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Speaker 1: Knox is eating and then doing very well.

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Speaker 2: And if I mean, that's the exact formula you want

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Speaker 2: to play out in the regular season. If one of

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Speaker 2: the guys is making all these plays and the defense

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Speaker 2: kind of shifts their focus, the other guy is gonna

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Speaker 2: get go off. And that's what we saw today.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, they've got enough guys, enough weapons that

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Speaker 1: they can beat you with anybody on the roster or

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Speaker 1: anybody on the field at any given time. So it

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Speaker 1: was was really cool. And they're starting to see some,

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Speaker 1: you know, some funky stuff in the play calling as

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Speaker 1: well some gadget plays really creative personnel and personnel alignments, alignments. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff is on the table. They're starting

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Speaker 1: to and I think, and I'm you know, when you

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Speaker 1: watch this stuff, it's hard to remember doing it until

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Speaker 1: you see it and it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, I remember.

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Speaker 1: Because what happens is the coordinators coaches, they want to

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Speaker 1: spice it up a little bit. They you know, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're going to run this play now for the eleventh

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Speaker 1: time in the last two days, right, so they'll throw

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Speaker 1: in some plays that are fun. And also it keeps

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Speaker 1: the guys engagementally because it sounds you know, you got

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Speaker 1: to line up different, they got to do different things,

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Speaker 1: they got to be asked to do different responsibilities. They're

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Speaker 1: you know, they're trend there, you know, tendency breakers and

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Speaker 1: uh fun to watch. But some of that's going on

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Speaker 1: don't know, I can't really remember. Maybe somebody can tweet

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Speaker 1: at us, remember a lot did are the bills? Or

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Speaker 1: is this gonna be one of those times we're in

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Speaker 1: the preseason they're going to show this trick play, that

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Speaker 1: trick play. The other trick play, so that teams have

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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we've got to be ready for this, this, this,

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Speaker 1: and this, and it kind of spreads him thin. And

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Speaker 1: the game planning.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the priority per se and

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Speaker 2: Shawn even said earlier in the week, I think it

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Speaker 2: was Monday, where he said, we're not really focused on

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Speaker 2: the cults, with all due respect, We're kind of just

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Speaker 2: focused on our operation right now. So there really is

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Speaker 2: no game planning in the preseason, which isn't a foreign concept. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not uncommon, but it also doesn't preclude them from

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Speaker 1: doing something funky. Just get it, get it on the

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Speaker 1: get it on film and and throw it and no

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Speaker 1: matter what defense they're in, we're gonna run this and

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Speaker 1: see if it works, you know kind of thing. A

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Speaker 1: little bit of that, but maybe who knows. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember whether they did that with in Ken Dorsey's first

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Speaker 1: year last year. I don't tend I don't really remember

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Speaker 1: any trick plays from last year season, so it's probably

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Speaker 1: not a thing.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bates got almost all of the snaps, if not all.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see every single snap, but every time I checked,

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Speaker 2: it was Ryan Bates Ryan Bates in with the ones

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Speaker 2: working at right guard, and then uh Ken Dorsey said

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Speaker 2: he was basically saying that right now, the competition between

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Speaker 2: him and Osiris Torrance is really close. That was his

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Speaker 2: definition of it. So we'll have to see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: It's going to continue to you know, morph and change

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Speaker 2: in the preseason. And and I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 2: that Ken Dorsey also said that the reason we've seen

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Speaker 2: Osiris Torrance in there with the starters also is because

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Speaker 2: they want to get him as many reps as possible

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Speaker 2: to get him up to speed, which makes sense. They

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Speaker 2: know what they have and Ryan Bates, so you know,

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Speaker 2: you need to know more, and Osiris Torrance needs to

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Speaker 2: get more time on the field at the position at

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Speaker 2: this level. So it's really close. So that would tend

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Speaker 2: to mean it's probably not going to get figured out

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Speaker 2: the end of the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also too, you're winding up getting to the

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Speaker 1: regulars to the preseason game on Saturday. It's Wednesday, So

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Speaker 1: if Torrance is going to take the multitude of snaps

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Speaker 1: in the game, you're probably gonna start ramping him up

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Speaker 1: and getting Baits. It's like having a long practice like

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Speaker 1: they did on Sunday for a day off Monday, or

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Speaker 1: a long practice on Monday for a day off yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You're probably getting Baits a lot of work because he's

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Speaker 1: not going to get a lot of work on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: There could be some of that in something rotation as possible.

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Speaker 1: They could be gearing up and starting to posture. It's

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Speaker 1: like lining up your pitching staff in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. These guys fresh for

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Speaker 2: the game, right right. I would say that's probably the case.

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Speaker 2: Non participants today. Damian Harris sits out with some knee soreness.

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Speaker 2: He did not practice today. Ed Oliver is still out

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Speaker 2: with the sore back. Jordan Phillips, a limited participant, will

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Speaker 2: be talking with him shortly get an update on his situation.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Gilliam still down with the groin injury, Cam Lewis

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Speaker 2: from the calf injury that still has him on the

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Speaker 1: It gets ratcheted up fat all the way to the top.

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Speaker 1: You can, but I'm don't get me going because we

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Speaker 2: Week four, I know, the week four.

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Speaker 1: At one pm at home Miami Dolphins. That is October first,

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Speaker 1: knowing that no matter what happens, he gets the same money.

434
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Speaker 2: Yeah, win, loser, draw, He's taking home two hundred and

435
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars.

436
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's a huge issue for a sport

437
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: like the NFL, where guys really do have to sacrifice

438
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: their health and their comfort to play well, or at

439
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: least risk that health and comfort to play well. So

440
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: I get it, he might have a bounce back season

441
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: and all that, and he may be good. And whether

442
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Speaker 1: you like him or not, and whether you know, there's

443
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: not too many people that are like, it's okay with

444
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: me that he that he got the deal he did

445
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: after what he went through in Houston. That's that's the

446
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: critic critical side of this that I still shake my

447
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: head at.

448
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: Right, I think we've over the last year or so,

449
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: I think we've said all we can say on the

450
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: merits of that signing. There is big news concerning the

451
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: world of sports broadcasting and sports betting. Penn National, a

452
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: sports betting service, is going to pay ESPN one point

453
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: five billion dollars with a B over the next ten

454
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 2: years for an arrangement which will basically let use ESPN

455
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: as a platform to promote their sports betting service, which

456
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Speaker 2: will include ESPN talent using their services and amplifying their services. Meanwhile,

457
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: ESPN gets like five hundred million in stock warrants. Over

458
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: the next decade, they'll have like thirty one point eight

459
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Speaker 2: million shares of Penn National. So there's this huge cash

460
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Speaker 2: infusion to ESPN, which the future of that network was

461
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: kind of under the microscope after a lot of layoffs

462
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: last month and they were wondering what's Disney going to

463
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Speaker 2: do with ESPN, And now there is this this huge

464
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: sports betting deal. I think it puts ESPN in a

465
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: very favorable position, not only in terms of liquidity, but

466
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Speaker 2: the ability to morph and change as the sports world

467
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: changes with the influx of sports betting as a regular,

468
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Speaker 2: everyday thing.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you think ESPN is going to drastically

470
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Speaker 1: change their presentation and their whole tone about how they

471
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: approached the game. It used to be highlights and fun

472
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Speaker 1: and the Sports Center guys yucking it up over the

473
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Speaker 1: highlights in targets.

474
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Speaker 2: I still think there'll be some of that, but I.

475
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Speaker 1: Think it's going to go the way you know what,

476
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Speaker 1: I think, Brownie. They already have some of that on

477
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: some of their Let me just be the old guy

478
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Speaker 1: in the room again. Yeah, I was around when MTV started.

479
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: You know what it was, twenty four hours a day

480
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: was music video. All the hot bands, the biggest stars

481
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: made videos for all their hit songs, and you'd watch

482
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Speaker 1: those one after one is on a loop. Now it's

483
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: not that, right, it's completely different than that. That's where

484
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Speaker 1: ESPN is headed. It's gonna change that much, I would.

485
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Speaker 1: I would say over the next maybe not overnight. That's

486
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Speaker 1: it's certainly going to morph into something completely different.

487
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Speaker 2: You might be right, You might be right, because that's

488
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: who's quite literally paying the bills.

489
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Speaker 1: And it's sorry, I'm not gonna sit here and listen.

490
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: They they morphed too. They've already done it once. The

491
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: memory was pingpong at three am. Well, you know they had,

492
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have any rights to things, and then all

493
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they flex and now they can.

494
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Now they're you know, they are a major player in

495
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: the media market, so they can pull this off and

496
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: il morph again.

497
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Speaker 2: Last note to pass along, Nahim Hines had his knee surgery.

498
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Had it yesterday, so hopefully all went well. In the

499
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: wake of the jet skiing accident that pretty much cost

500
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: him the twenty twenty three season. Tom Peliserro from NFL

501
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: Network was the first to report that, so he'll try

502
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: to get ready for twenty twenty four. He'll have a

503
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: full calendar year to do so. So hopefully surgery went

504
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: well and hopefully his rehab goes even better. But just

505
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: figured i'd bring everybody up to speed on that, knowing

506
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: that you know, you feel bad these guys have injuries,

507
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: are out for the season, everybody forgets about him. I

508
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: just wanted to pass along that, Yeah, he had his

509
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: surgery yesterday and hopefully all went well. I don't have

510
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: a report on how surgery went, but hopefully it went

511
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: fine and he's good to go going forward. Topic of

512
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: discussion today for you concerns the Bill's defensive line. Which

513
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: defensive linemen are you most excited about this season? And

514
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: let me tell you, after watching this out on the field,

515
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: there are plenty of choices, and not just new guys.

516
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: It's guys perhaps like Jordan Phillips coming back from an

517
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: injury riddled season in twenty twenty two. Let's not forget

518
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: that in the Sean McDermott era, the guy the best

519
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: SAX season for the Bills is Jordan Phillips, with nine

520
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: and a half in twenty nineteen. So you know, you

521
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: can pick anybody you want on the list, But if

522
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: there's somebody that you're particularly excited about this season on

523
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defensive line, we want to know who that is.

524
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: Eight h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five

525
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board.

526
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Speaker 2: We will take a break here because when we come back,

527
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by one Jordan Phillips here

528
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: on set as he tells us how he's doing, how

529
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: he came through what was a very challenging twenty twenty

530
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: two season for himself injury wise, and plenty more here

531
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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

532
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Bills Race. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

533
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker here at Bill's training camp Saint John Fisher

534
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: University joined by a gaggle of Phillips Ordan Phillips along

535
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: with son Malik daughter Maya. We had we had Maya

536
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: here last year on set. You got big, girl, You

537
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: got big. So yeah, you got big. This is also

538
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: the one and only time every season that I am

539
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: flanked by two Kansas Natives, Steve being one, you being

540
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: the other. How far is Towanda from Wichita? Wichita? Thirty minutes? Okay,

541
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: so close isn't really?

542
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well my mom and dad live in Winfield.

543
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, we played Winfield in the high school high

544
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 6: school year six.

545
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: We're actually four A four A all right, yeah yeah Winfield.

546
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: I think it is a five. Yeah.

547
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go look at this like you know.

548
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: That's right. Well, good to have you in. So you're

549
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: kind of slowly getting eased back into the practice setting.

550
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, just taking my first uh three or four

551
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 6: days getting back acclimatee a, getting back around the guys,

552
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: and next we will turn it up with the paths

553
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 6: and stuff.

554
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was gonna say this week's probably a no

555
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: go for you in the game, right, They're gonna let

556
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: you sit and then they'll kind of shift gears on

557
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Monday or Monday probably.

558
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: Just see how it goes, see how the sorenesses and

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 6: stuff like that. But the plan is to be ready

560
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 6: for week one. So whatever we need to do to

561
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 6: be ready, that's what we're gonna do.

562
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Speaker 1: I know it's for you. It centers around your inability

563
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: and ability to start practicing and not practice at the

564
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: beginning of the camp. What do you think about this

565
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: training camp overall? Give us your you know, give us

566
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: your ten thousand foot few of this team right now.

567
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, we're still working through it, but the

568
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: details are there and we're starting to find our identity.

569
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 6: We've been blessed with what the cool weather, We had

570
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: a couple of hot days, but you can't ask for

571
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 6: more from a training camp like this.

572
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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. While it was successful on the field

573
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: for the team, despite a mountain of adversity, you had

574
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: plenty of your own personal adversity hamstring, rotator cuff. How

575
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: did you kind of power through that like a lot

576
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: of the rest of the members of your team did?

577
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: Because last year was an exercise in pushing through adversity

578
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: seemingly at every turn.

579
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, it wasn't just us, it was the

580
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 6: whole city of Buffalo. You know, everybody was kind of

581
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: just fighting through it, and it's just kind of one

582
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: of those grindy years, and you know, everybody else is

583
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: going through a lot, and just seemed like we could

584
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: quit on anybody, especially with all the stuff that we

585
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 6: are going that the city was going through. Yeah, everybody

586
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: was just kind of just pushing him.

587
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: And what's the conversation has been like now that you're

588
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: back and kind of getting a fresh start this year,

589
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: what are the conversation has been like in the locker room.

590
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 6: Everybody's optimist, optimistic, and uh, we're gonna keep working stacking days.

591
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 6: That's kind of been the motto so far as the

592
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: stacking days and seeing what we have to do to

593
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: come and get over this hump that we've been in

594
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 6: the last few years.

595
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know if subconsciously or consciously Brandon being

596
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: thought about this in the moves that he made through

597
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: the course of the offseason. But you guys had a

598
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: lot of injuries on the defensive front. Now you can

599
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: argue you are more talented and deeper, and I think

600
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: the same can be said for the OLI and a

601
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: lot of other positions for that matter. So if in fact,

602
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: adversity may strike here or there, and we know it does.

603
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: It's a one hundred injury sport. How much better equipped

604
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: do you guys feel as a locker room that you're

605
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: gonna have really good answers if a guy or two

606
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: goes down at a certain spot this year based on

607
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: what you have on the roster.

608
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: Uh, even off just from camp this year, a couple

609
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: of us have went down and other guys have stepped

610
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 6: in and there's been no drop off. And I can

611
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 6: only really speak for the for the D line, but

612
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 6: I feel like you see that kind of stuff work

613
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 6: with like the Eagles last year. They had all those

614
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 6: guys and you're just like, where's everybody going to play?

615
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: But they made it work.

616
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 6: And then the forty nine ers do it every year

617
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: with all the first rounders that they have, and so

618
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 6: it's Uh, I feel like the team's built around the

619
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Speaker 6: D line and we can keep a healthy ten out

620
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 6: there at all times. At the level that all of

621
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 6: us gonna play out, it's gonna be a scary thing.

622
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I know you had to be disappointed in the way

624
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: your season went last year, just personally because you know,

625
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: you you pop the hammy on on in the early

626
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: in the season, and then he came back, and then

627
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I think it's in Detroit. Was it Detroit where you

628
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: new England where you were. Yeah, you took the swipe

629
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: at Mac and went down and got your arm in

630
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: an awkward angle and you paid the price the rest

631
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: of the season. It's kind of and I make that

632
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: analogy all the time. It's like you got to drag

633
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: around this luggage with you wherever you go, and you're

634
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna play through it, but it really sucks the life

635
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: out of your season.

636
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it was bad, but made it just

637
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 6: made me be become more of a team guy and

638
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 6: not saying I wasn't just you know, making sure that

639
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 6: the guys that were coming in and just bringing still

640
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 6: trying to have that energy that I bring to the

641
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: team to try to keep everybody going. So it wasn't

642
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 6: you know, it was just a different type of a year.

643
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it was a down year. It was

644
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 6: a ground year.

645
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: I want to I want I know a lot of

646
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: fans want to to see like you and Shack amping

647
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: people up again on game days. You know what I mean,

648
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: you with waving people and Shack with his energy. I mean,

649
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: coach appreciates that stuff. He takes value in that, and

650
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: it comes naturally to you, comes naturally to Shack. Do

651
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Speaker 2: you guys? Do you guy? Is that all just off

652
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Speaker 2: the cover or do you and Shack kind of talk

653
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Speaker 2: before the games and say, all right, who's gonna get

654
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Speaker 2: who amped up first?

655
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Speaker 6: No, it's just kind of whoever makes that big first play,

656
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: and there's neither one. Most time it's one of us.

657
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 6: And then he gets gets it going and then we

658
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 6: start trash talking between ourselves and.

659
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Speaker 1: Then yeah, it just gets going.

660
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it gets out of hand after that.

661
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people say that all the time. And you are

662
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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked to you on the on the show.

663
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Speaker 1: We've done it before, and and you're a completely different

664
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Speaker 1: guy when you're standing around here talking when you're off

665
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Speaker 1: the field. But and I've tried to make the analogy

666
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: of what it's like, but just give articulate for us

667
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Speaker 1: what changes, because I know it when you walk down

668
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Speaker 1: the tunnel in high Mark and there's eighty thousand, you know,

669
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Speaker 1: sixty seventy two thousand people in there, and it's it's

670
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Speaker 1: a little easier to.

671
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Speaker 6: Do that game day hype thing. Oh when you walk

672
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 6: down that tunnel. It's just like Jackal and High. You

673
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 6: know you got those are Bruce Banner and Hold. You

674
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: know you got those different personalities. And I have my

675
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: family that I'm playing for. And then on top of that,

676
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 6: the Buffalo fans are so rowdy that it makes it

677
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Speaker 6: fun and it's intimidating to the other people, especially late

678
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Speaker 6: late in the game and we're all still jumping around

679
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 6: getting the crowd going there, like how how do these

680
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: guys have this much energy still? And so it's just

681
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 6: you know this mind games within the mind games and

682
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Speaker 6: fun within the fun.

683
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Speaker 2: So when does the mental shift happen for you guys

684
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Speaker 2: in pertaining to Week one? Because you've got a preseason,

685
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Speaker 2: you got to navigate your way through first. But as

686
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: we get to the tail end of that, when does

687
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Speaker 2: the switch get flipped where Week one becomes the total focus?

688
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Speaker 6: Another model we just this year is just kind of

689
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 6: because I see it, honey, it's just being present, you know,

690
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 6: taking the every day day by day, and whenever that

691
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: time comes to prepare for Week one, we're going to

692
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 6: do that. But right now we're just still focusing on

693
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Speaker 6: the guys that are fighting for their careers, fighting for

694
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Speaker 6: the jobs trying to make this team.

695
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: What about because we've asked a lot of you guys

696
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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. Jim McDermott as

697
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: the d C. He said, when he steps in the room,

698
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Speaker 2: I'm not the head coach, I'm the DC. How have

699
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: you kind of looked at that and his approach, because

700
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Speaker 2: you know what his approach is as a head coach,

701
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: haven't been here. How does it shift or maybe morph

702
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: and change when he's in the defensive meeting room.

703
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 6: With Honestly, I thought it was a little skeptical. I

704
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 6: didn't know how he says he's gonna put on two

705
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 6: different hats. But you know what, you see it when

706
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 6: he comes in that DC room, he's it feels like

707
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's not one of the guys, but

708
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 6: it feels like he's one of the guys when he

709
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 6: comes in the in there and talks to us, and he's, uh,

710
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 6: he makes sure to that you know that. It's it's

711
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: a difference. He talks to you different when we're out

712
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: here as a d C, and he talks to you

713
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 6: different as a head coach. So you know, you see it.

714
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 6: It's just hard to as a player You're like, okay,

715
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 6: well you know who am I.

716
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Talking to you? Right?

717
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: But which is on? Right?

718
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

719
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Speaker 6: So uh and they can switch quick.

720
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Speaker 1: So but he doesn't.

721
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Speaker 6: You say, yeah, he does a great job and it's

722
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 6: gonna be fun to see how he grows and does

723
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 6: what he does during the season as well.

724
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Speaker 1: Yeah, last one from me. You know, your children sitting

725
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: on your lap, your significant other over here. So training

726
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: camp goes away every year and we've had there's been

727
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: a big debate how valuable is it to come to

728
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College and you you do get to

729
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: spend a little time with your family here because they

730
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: but they got to make the effort to get here too, right,

731
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Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about, you know,

732
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: traveling away to go to training camp or having a

733
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Speaker 1: training camp maybe an orchard park where guys would sleep

734
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Speaker 1: in their own bed, with their house, have dinner with

735
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Speaker 1: their families, that kind of thing before meetings, that kind

736
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Speaker 1: of thing. What do you think the value is and

737
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: do you think this I'm pretty sure it's going to

738
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Speaker 1: continue kind of give us how you see the difference

739
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Speaker 1: between a stadium training camp or a remote training camp.

740
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Speaker 6: Well, I said, start with an orchard Park. The facility

741
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: they have is top notch and it's hard to get

742
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 6: away from that. We're kind of spoiled there. But the

743
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 6: camaraderie we get here and everybody getting to know each other,

744
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: and then we spend so much time together, we really

745
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 6: become a family. And a lot of us guys that

746
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 6: do have families, it's tough for us because we're away

747
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: from our family. He starts for so long, but you

748
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 6: get to just get to know everybody and learn everybody

749
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 6: and stuff like that and that, and I feel like

750
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: that's what makes us the Buffalo Bills is because Sean

751
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 6: really pushes family. Like today, I had both my kids

752
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 6: out there working out with me, running and uh other places.

753
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 6: You know, you don't get that. You won't let it,

754
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 6: people won't let you do that. It makes you want

755
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 6: to play harder because you know what you got here

756
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: and uh, I don't know. Family is everything here, man.

757
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one for me. We hear that Poonaford is

758
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 2: the most silent the group in the room. Has any

759
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Daquan used to be a quiet guy. But

760
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: even da Quon said, I'm I look talkative compared to him.

761
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: Has anyone been able to get him to open up

762
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: a little bit or say more than three words.

763
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Speaker 6: He's not he's not shy. It's just you just got

764
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: to talk to him. And when you talk to him

765
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 6: and have a good conversation with you, and he has

766
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 6: uh that you know, that resting face.

767
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

768
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so uh so after you get past his

769
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: resting face and start talking to him, he has a

770
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 6: great smile and he's a good character.

771
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: You're and you're straight with him, even though he's Texas

772
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: and your Oklahoma.

773
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we had we had it out because I didn't

774
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 6: know at first, and we were talking back and for

775
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 6: and I asked him where he went to school and

776
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: at Texas and I said, I can't talk to you anymore.

777
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 6: And uh but after that we got through it and yeah,

778
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 6: everything's good now, all.

779
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: Right, cool, Jeordan, listen, thanks for stopping. Good to see

780
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: you guys too. All right, Tell dad to stay healthy

781
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, thank you, Thanks Jordan. That Jordan Phillips

782
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: joining us here on One Bill's Live. We'll take a break,

783
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: be back with more. See in a couple of minutes.

784
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live taking the show on the road. No

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Speaker 2: not Bill's training Camp will be live from one to

786
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Speaker 2: three pm at the Delta Sonic location at twenty nine

787
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: seventy West Henrietta Road here in Rochester. Following Thursday's training

788
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: camp practice, come hang with Steve and I as we'll

789
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: have a special visit from Billy, Buffalo and more. Delta

790
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791
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792
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Speaker 1: That's that's tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It is tomorrow. That's correct, So mark your calendars.

794
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Speaker 1: Including you got. I gotta give mapp to how I

795
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: get there, so I think we can. All I want

796
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: is a place to park, so you know what I mean.

797
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: I think they have parking spaces there. I'm pretty confident

798
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Speaker 2: of that. So you'll you'll be all said Steve, trust.

799
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Speaker 1: Me, get the get the car deal. Tell detail while

800
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Speaker 1: we're on the show. Oh I see, what's your A

801
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Speaker 1: great idea?

802
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Speaker 2: Yeah? You all right? Yeah? Why not? Which defensive linement

803
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: are you most excited about this season? Could be an

804
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: incumbent from last year that you think is going to

805
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: take off this season. Excited to see could be one

806
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: of the newcomers. Could be somebody coming off injury like

807
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Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips, who we just had on the air with

808
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Speaker 2: us last segment. You let us know at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five

810
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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty the number to get on board,

811
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Speaker 2: or you can hit us up on the tweets sheet.

812
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Speaker 2: At onet Bill's Live, we go to the phones and

813
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Speaker 2: to Judy in Buffalo. What do you got for his Judy?

814
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Speaker 7: First of all, I just watched this and I thought

815
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 7: those are the two most adorable kids I've ever seen

816
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 7: a Right. Next, I called in earlier this week. I

817
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 7: asked about Justin Shorter. Now I read the newspaper day

818
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 7: Justin Shorter is Gabe Davis's Backham, So what is going on?

819
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Speaker 7: Please help me out here?

820
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you need to know

821
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: about him? Specifically? Judy? We lost her. I think she

822
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: hung up. I think she's trying to ask what are

823
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: his chances of making the roster? Maybe I'm guessing.

824
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Justin Shorter should be ahead of Gabe Davis.

825
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's saying that. I think she

826
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: wants to know what's his status in terms of making

827
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Speaker 2: the roster.

828
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Speaker 1: Here's the situation he's backing up if he's the number

829
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Speaker 1: one guy behind Gabe Davis. He's gonna make the team.

830
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing. Let's map this out for you. Okay,

831
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: So I think your top five receivers are pretty much

832
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: locked in already, and that is dig Davis, Sherfield, Hardy,

833
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: and Shakir. So those are your top five that I

834
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: think are as close to locks to make the roster

835
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Speaker 2: as any group in the league. I only think they

836
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: carry six, so that leaves one spot for Shorter and

837
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Speaker 2: a slew of other guys. Now, I will say this,

838
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: in the rotation, Shorter is getting a very healthy amount

839
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: of reps, and he's even rotated up from one team

840
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: to another on the depth chart through the course of practice.

841
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to immerse him in it to

842
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: a see how much he can handle and b see

843
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: how much he can take advantage of those opportunities. He's

844
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Speaker 2: gonna get a ton of opportunities in the preseason games

845
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Speaker 2: and that's where he's gonna really have to shine. I

846
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: would say another guy amongst that group of younger players

847
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: who's flashed here and there would be Tyrrell Shavers, six '

848
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: four receiver, big kid and has made some plays. I

849
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: thought he made some nice plays in the Blue and

850
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: Red scrimmage last Friday back at the stadium. We mentioned

851
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Keishawn Johnson. He had an unbelievable one handed catch on

852
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Monday here at Fisher and Andy. Isabella slowly but surely

853
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: has worked his way in to getting reps out on

854
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: the field, and he is virtually unstoppable on the slant

855
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: because he is so quick footed and explosive. Small guy,

856
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: but he gets from point A to point B in

857
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: a blink, and he is a very difficult cover underneath.

858
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: So I think there I would put those four guys

859
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Speaker 2: in the bucket first for that sixth and presumably last

860
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: receiver position. That's Shorter, Shavers, Isabella, Keishawn Johnson. Those four

861
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: players have flashed through the course of these two weeks

862
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Speaker 2: of training camp more than the other guys fighting for

863
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Speaker 2: roster spots. That's where I would kind of hand cap.

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Speaker 1: Think Shorter got moved up ahead of Marcel Eateman. I

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Speaker 1: think eightman was getting some reps. Now Shorter is getting

866
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Speaker 1: those reps. It seems like right, and then you know

867
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: these other everybody's getting You know, there's a ton of

868
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: guys out there, and they're all kind of moving in

869
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: and out. Plus, if they're an eleven personnel, there's three

870
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: guys out there anyway, So there's and there's three different guys.

871
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: So they moved through the entire roster pretty quickly when

872
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: they start, you know, rotating guys through. So yeah, I

873
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: think Shavers has got a chance, so do Shorter. I

874
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: think they'll probably have ten guys in the building, and

875
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean active roster, practice squad, and whatever else wherever

876
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: else they can hide one out. I don't know all

877
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of it, but they're gonna have

878
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: ten guys in the building from this roster. I would

879
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of these guys are gonna be on

880
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: the practice squad or have a shot at being on

881
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Some of them are gonna be on

882
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: the practice squad, and they're gonna get sniped by teams

883
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: like the Giants and you know all these we name it,

884
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta's of the world. They're all gonna get

885
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: sniped from from the bills. So but they're gonna try

886
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: and keep as many of these guys as they can

887
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: because they got some guys. It's a hard group to

888
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: break into, as you as you just said, the three

889
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: guys there, Shakir, Davis, and Diggs. Those three guys have

890
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: got some not only some play under their belt and

891
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: some credibility in the league. They also have some depth

892
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: and knowledge about this offense after being in it for

893
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: a year. Sherfield and Hardy not so much. But Sherfield

894
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: and Hardy certainly have been in the league and played

895
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: in NFL games that are meaningful. So those five guys,

896
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: like Brownie said, are in, but you gotta have at

897
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: least you gotta have five more that can step in

898
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: and have like a whole fresh set. Because one guy

899
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: goes down, you need to move with another guy up.

900
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Another guy goes down, you need to move another guy up.

901
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: And depending on which guy goes down, it depends on

902
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: which guy gets moved up. If Gabe Davis goes down,

903
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna bring up Andy Isabella because he's a

904
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: completely different kind of player. But you might bring up Shorter,

905
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, because he's that kind of guy. He's a big,

906
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: strong dude who will mix it up inside in the

907
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: run game and go up and get it. So they're

908
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna have, right, don't you think, Brett. They're gonna have

909
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: five extra guys around the building that they can plug

910
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: into this offense, no matter five, because they'll have.

911
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: Maybe two, three on the practice squad.

912
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they'll have seven on the active roster. Maybe

913
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: not all, maybe not all of them will be active

914
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: on game day, but they're gonna be on the roster.

915
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the're carrying seven receivers. Do

916
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 2: you want to know why? Because they're carrying tight ends

917
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: this year, that's what Maybe it's only gonna be six receivers.

918
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know.

919
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jay in Utah next. What do you

920
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: have for us? Jay?

921
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how's it going? Thanks for taking my call?

922
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 8: For sure, I just had a so to the answer

923
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 8: the question of the day. The d lineman that I'm

924
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 8: the most excited for has got to be growed this year.

925
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna take a big step and I

926
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 8: think it's gonna be exciting to watch. I had a

927
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 8: question about It's a comment I heard in a different podcast.

928
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 8: Robert Mays at the Athletics said that he need at

929
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 8: least seven blue chip players and some red ship players

930
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 8: to win a Super Bowl. And I think we I

931
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 8: think we have seven blue chip players, but I wanted

932
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 8: to know if you guys thought we we have, you know,

933
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 8: seven true blue chip players on our team and who

934
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 8: they are, and then who do you think would be

935
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 8: considered a blue ship player this time next year?

936
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: Good question?

937
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 2: Okay, good question, No problem, all right.

938
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: Josh, Steph Milano, Vaughn Poyer, Poyer, Tredavious. I'll put two, three, yeah,

939
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: or five?

940
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: That's five. What about Leonard Floyd?

941
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd six?

942
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's pretty close.

943
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: And how about this time next year? I think James

944
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: Cook might.

945
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Be Yeah, this time next your a Dalton Kincaid might I.

946
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Think Dion Dawkins is a blue chip player? You do,

947
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: and you can take your pick of I think Taron

948
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Johnson's a blue chip player slot corner, Yeah.

949
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: I would. I would go along with that because he's

950
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: probably the top five guy at his position.

951
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's.

952
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: I can get there. There might be a stretch on

953
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: a couple of those. Yeah. Maybe what about Bass?

954
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass is a blue chip player?

955
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 2: I mean he's a blue chick kicker.

956
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he put him down to third overall in

957
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the NFL in points and since he came into the league.

958
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: And I would say next year, probably Cook, Kincaid, possibly

959
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: Kincaid maybe and depending on the year Gabe Davis has

960
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: he could be sniffing that, right, you can know that's

961
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: a big if. Yeah, sure, And what does Ed Oliver do?

962
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: You know? Does he go from you know, blue chip

963
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: pedigree to blue chip player. We'll have to wait and see,

964
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: but I think there are enough there to make.

965
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: It, and you can make it. You can make a

966
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: case too that any one of the running backs could

967
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: be emerges that not just Latavious Murray or Damian Harris,

968
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: but certainly James Cook could get there this year. And

969
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: you're right, Kincaid. Even Knox is considered a really good player,

970
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: red chip player anyway. So yeah, yeah, the Bills have

971
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: got guys, There's no question about it. And there I

972
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: stacked their depth of blue chip people across against anybody

973
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. I mean, you got

974
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: to think about the defense alone. You've got Vaughn Milano,

975
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Tre Davius and Leonard Floyd right out of the gate

976
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: and not even considering Poyer and hide in the back right.

977
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: So and on the offensive side, Dion Dawkins, Josh Allen,

978
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs and.

979
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Then you got up and comers and Cook and Kincaid.

980
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Cook and Kincaid, Dawson. Knox has got to be at

981
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: least a red chip player again, Davis as a red

982
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: chip player. So I'm yeah, this roster is loaded in whatever.

983
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember, heaven, I can't remember the guy's name who. Yeah,

984
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: Jay in Utah said it, but I don't know who

985
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: he's quoting from the podcast. But yeah, you can however

986
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: you slice it. The Bill's stand This roster stands up

987
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: against anybody's roster, including Phillies, Kansas City's uh, Cincinnati's whatever.

988
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, Andy and Fresno Jack and

989
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: Cheek Dowaga. Hang tight, we'll get to you as soon

990
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: as we get back. Which defensive linemen are you most

991
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: excited about this season on This Bill's Roster. We'll back

992
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: with your phone calls when we return here. On One

993
00:50:37,080 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

994
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. All right,

995
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: rolling into our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown

996
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you live from training camp Saint John

997
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Fisher University.

998
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Day eleven.

999
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: In the Books, one practice remaining Saint John Fisher. Before

1000
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: we break, we're like camp and head back to Orchard Park.

1001
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: Two more practice, two more days, and we're gonna be

1002
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: two more shows, and we're gonna be game day.

1003
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: That is true, preseason game number one against the Colts. One.

1004
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on the radio side. I'll be on

1005
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: the TV side. It's gonna be great. It'll be fun

1006
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: to get up there and let's go.

1007
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1008
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: I like it because a TV booth has better seats

1009
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: than the radio booth.

1010
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine. You want a big timing, that's fine,

1011
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: that's all right. I'm perfectly happy.

1012
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: Actually, I'll say this, the Buffalo radio booth is better

1013
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: than than every other radio booth in the league.

1014
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee is good, Baltimore is good, Cincinnati isn't bad.

1015
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: Kan Kansas City, Kansas City is awful. Game is a rumor.

1016
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: You're on top of the stadium.

1017
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: You have a better seat in the blimp.

1018
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: You from your vantage point in the broadcast booth in

1019
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Steve, you can see Nebraska. I'm pretty convinced

1020
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: of it.

1021
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It is so bad.

1022
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: You're hot.

1023
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: It is so bad. It's like I may have to.

1024
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: Call that game through my binocular.

1025
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so bad. It's so bad, you know, because

1026
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: they don't want to give up prime real estate.

1027
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: To used to be all like us. And then they

1028
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: refurbished the stadium and upstairs went the LS Cruise.

1029
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Has never been high on the list of getting good

1030
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: vantage boards for the game because England is very good.

1031
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: Well that's because it's mostly because TV plate pays billions

1032
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: for the right to be there. Radio just kind of

1033
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: shows up and pays it, you know, throws a couple

1034
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: of coins in, I get it in the slot.

1035
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: You've made your point. You don't need to belabor it,

1036
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: all right, Okay, let's get back to the phone. Let's

1037
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: get back to the phones. At eight oh three zero

1038
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

1039
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: five fifty which defensive lineman are you most excited to

1040
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: see this season? In a Bill's uniform? Open lines for

1041
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: you there, So if you're calling hang there, they'll get

1042
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: to you in due course. Andy and Fresno, though, leads

1043
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: us off an hour number two.

1044
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 9: What do you got, Andy, Yes, to answer your first

1045
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 9: of all, huge fan, I can't believe him on the

1046
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 9: phone with you guys. But as far as d line

1047
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 9: that I'm excited about would have to be a all verb.

1048
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 9: But I have a question for you guys, being experts

1049
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 9: and all. You know, I was watching uh Josh Allen's

1050
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 9: miped up video yesterday and like the playfulness, you know,

1051
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 9: being in camping all is that normal or I feel like,

1052
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 9: you know, there's there should be some level of like

1053
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 9: work ethics and and and some level of seriousness because

1054
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 9: you know, if you want to be an elite status

1055
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 9: you got you have to you know, have that elite

1056
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 9: mindset and and and kind of focus on what you're

1057
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 9: doing instead of you know, horsing around all the time.

1058
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1059
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not trying to bash our team. I love

1060
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 9: them to death. I love Josh to death, but you know,

1061
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 9: is it I mean, don't you think there'd be some

1062
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 9: level of seriousness.

1063
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying was his name Jack Andy Andy. I'll

1064
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: say this, don't don't be fooled by that.

1065
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: Hm.

1066
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: That thing is edited like you wouldn't believe, and they

1067
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: only put the fun stuff in the rest of it

1068
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: is that's number one. The rest of it's off limits

1069
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: because he'll be calling plays and making on adjustments and

1070
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: and all that stuff is off limits. So which doesn't

1071
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: want the coat, And yeah, they don't want that stuff

1072
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: out there. They don't want him over there talking having

1073
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: a serious conversation with Steph Diggs about anything, because it'll

1074
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: be about football. So you just get the fluff in

1075
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: those videos. You don't ever get the real deal. And now,

1076
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: if it's a two hour practice and you just saw

1077
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: ninety seconds of it, the rest, you know, they'll give

1078
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: you an idea of how much of the rest of

1079
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: it is what you're asking about.

1080
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 2: And first of all, it's a practice. Second of all,

1081
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: all of that goofing around is when he's on the

1082
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: sidelines and not in the drill or the team segment,

1083
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: so he's just commiserating with some of his teammates. And third,

1084
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: and I'll use Dawson Knox description of Josh, Josh is

1085
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 2: a dork like personality wise, he's a dork. I mean,

1086
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: Dawson said it last year. Every other day there's a

1087
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: new D's nuts joke. I mean that's just Josh. And

1088
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: how goof he is. I mean, he's a total goofball.

1089
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: But everybody loves him because it's genuine. And don't don't

1090
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 2: put that past winning over a locker room either, because

1091
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: you got to be a real person. And Josh is

1092
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: real every single day. He's got a great sense of humor,

1093
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: but he's a great leader at the same time. And

1094
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: I think you're allowed to be both even if you're

1095
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: a professional athlete. As a matter of fact, I think

1096
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: it makes you more likable if you're just in there

1097
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: as a drill start and every day, God of get

1098
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: the drill done, gotta focus, come to do this, Oh

1099
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: my god, Like people are gonna be like, dude, relax,

1100
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: Like you can't be that way all the time. You'll

1101
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: just wear yourself out, let alone your teammates.

1102
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he is a real guy. He is himself

1103
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: all the time. Guys gravitate towards that, and I think

1104
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: one of the things that sets him apart. And it's

1105
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: the same thing you've seen with other great players and

1106
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: guys I played with. When you're out there and and

1107
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: I make a big deal about this all the time,

1108
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: but I really think it's a real thing, obviously, because

1109
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: I really believe it. The game demands a lot of

1110
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: a lot from these guys. And when you know you

1111
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: got a quarterback who's gonna go out there and jump

1112
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: over people or run through people, or tuck up on

1113
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: a goal line stand and just barrel his way in

1114
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: knowing he's gonna get hit a couple of two or

1115
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: three different times on the way into the end zone.

1116
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: When you got a guy who's out there willing to

1117
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: do that for the team and to win and to

1118
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: score and to help his offense, and to sit there.

1119
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Even on the ninety eight yard touchdown pass to Gabe

1120
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Davis last year, Josh got knocked on his back. You

1121
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to stand in there and take one

1122
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: to the face in order to make the play. That's

1123
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: what he did on that play.

1124
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Time and again.

1125
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: That is what guys. That's why Josh is a different cat.

1126
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: That's why he's a great leader. That's why he's a

1127
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: great quarterback. And all of sudden, the fun stuff and

1128
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the fluff that you hear in these videos is part

1129
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: of it. Every guy you know, he's like you know

1130
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: that your favorite first grade teacher you go in. Every

1131
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: kid's got a different handshake with him, the same shit

1132
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: thing with Josh. They all feel like to have a

1133
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: relationship with one of the most famous football players on

1134
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: the planet. And that's part of him, including and getting

1135
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: his arms around the entire roster. So don't don't be

1136
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: fooled by any of the stuff you see on the website,

1137
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: because they're making that entertaining for people. You know, they

1138
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: want to see people having fun and it's engaging and

1139
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: all that. It's it's not the whole picture.

1140
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: It's not the whole picture. Back to the phones and

1141
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: to Jack in cheek Dewogan X, what do you got

1142
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: for us? Jack?

1143
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: Hey, guys? Addressing the first question, I guess Koona Ford

1144
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: is the guy that I am most excited about, only

1145
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: because I don't know that much about him, but on

1146
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: the assumption that he's going to make our raster, it

1147
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 4: gives us some quality depth along the D line, and

1148
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: we also have some nice depth along the offensive line too.

1149
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: That kind of creates a dilemma for Brandon Bean because

1150
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: he's come out and it's been said if there are

1151
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 4: guys that have to be cut or waved, you know,

1152
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: he would rather trade them and get some draft capital

1153
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 4: for them rather than waving him, because if you wave them,

1154
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: you don't want to make one of your division opponents stronger.

1155
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 4: Miami certainly looks like they could use any one of

1156
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 4: the you know, our spare offensive linemen. How does that

1157
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: system work? How exactly do waivers work? And how who

1158
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: gets first choice with anybody that the Bills actually has

1159
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: to have to wave? And Steve personally, I hope your

1160
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: wedding comes soon. Kudos to you for going along with

1161
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 4: the plan but growing a winter beard in mid August

1162
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: in western New York because that's something that you've got

1163
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 4: to be wanting to do. So hope your day comes soon. Thanks, guys,

1164
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: I'll hang up.

1165
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: And look awesome.

1166
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I'll say this. You've got to put

1167
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: a guy over waivers Jack the worst team in the league.

1168
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: It's goes same draft order, in the reverse order. The

1169
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Houston Texans will get their choice. I guess right, or

1170
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: is it Carolina to Carolina?

1171
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Carolina?

1172
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: Carolina gets first choice of the waiver and if they

1173
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: put in a claim form, they get him. If the

1174
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Houston Texans put it in they're the third second best worst,

1175
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: they get him, and then Chicago down the line. So

1176
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: it goes in reverse order. That's how the waiver wire

1177
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 1: system works. If you wave a guy, if a team

1178
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: wants him, they got to stand in line unless they're

1179
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league.

1180
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: Now, moving a player for draft capital sometimes is easier

1181
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: said than done, because.

1182
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: You gotta have a dance partner, right.

1183
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: There are a lot of teams out there that say, well,

1184
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: why am I going to give this guy draft capitol

1185
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: if they're going to have to release this guy anyway

1186
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: because they can't keep him. And so some other gms,

1187
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: though they may be interested, may choose to play the

1188
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: waiting game if they're convinced they can land the player

1189
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: once they're waived, either through waivers or if they're a veteran,

1190
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: through free agency, because they would become a free agent

1191
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: as soon as they're released if they have four years

1192
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: vested in the league already. So those are the elements

1193
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: in that equation at play. But we've seen Brandon Bean

1194
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: do this before. Whether it was Darryl Johnson who was

1195
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 2: a late round draft choice, they knew he wasn't gonna

1196
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: make the roster, he had value on special teams. They

1197
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: traded him to Carolina for a seventh round draft choice.

1198
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: They got something back. There may be players of greater

1199
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: ilk that they have to move off this roster in

1200
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: some capacity, and that begs the question, Steve, how many

1201
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: defensive linemen. Are you keeping they kept nine last year,

1202
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: four defensive tackles, five defensive ends. Do they keep ten

1203
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: this year? I mean, well, you can make the argument

1204
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: that you could do that because more often than not,

1205
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: because you say, well, where what position do you pull from?

1206
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: I think you pull from linebacker, where you only have

1207
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: two on the field most of the time.

1208
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: Think about this that they've also got some guys like

1209
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Boogie Bash and maj Vanessa who who are on their

1210
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: rookie deals right cheap labor. They're cheap labor for a

1211
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: team that may be looking for some guys, and they're

1212
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: they're both quality players and they've been taking a lot

1213
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: of reps for their for their whole career here in Buffalo.

1214
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: So some teams are gonna be able to look at

1215
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: them and say, listen, we can get them. If we

1216
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: really like the guy, will extend him. You know, we'll

1217
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: we'll get him to a contract, we'll have his rights,

1218
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: and they could trade for him. That that kind of

1219
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: thing plays into this as well. So teams like that

1220
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: are looking to get a little cheaper and then start rebuilding.

1221
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: Teams like La Arizona, Arizona Houston. Teams like that that

1222
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: are on the rebound who could maybe put together, you know,

1223
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: some guy, get some cheap labor and also then look

1224
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: to the future and have a head start on re

1225
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: signing those guys. Those are the kind of got teams

1226
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: that might be interested in it. But but there's no

1227
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: question the better they these guys are. And Hja and

1228
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: Panessa and Boogie b are no slouch players. But this

1229
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: is a team that's necked deep in guys, and you're

1230
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to give up some guys you might love

1231
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: and respect in order to get something back for him.

1232
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: Otherwise everybody will just wait until you cut those guys

1233
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: because you know they know they'll have a chance at

1234
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: signing them. So there has to be a market out there.

1235
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: That means you have to put some good players out

1236
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: there in the trade market and and you got to

1237
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: live with it.

1238
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean, think about defensive tackle alone, dey Kwon Jones

1239
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: and Oliver Jordan Phillips poona Ford, Tim Settle. That's five

1240
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: right there, before you even get to Ilianku, who was

1241
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: on the practice squad got called up for a handful

1242
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: of games over the last two years. Kendall Vickers and

1243
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: Cortez Browton, who were both on the practice squad for

1244
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: stretches last season.

1245
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: And you know all these guys and we're looking at

1246
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: we're watching these guys they're having that's just defensive tack.

1247
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: They're having good camps. Yea Broughton and Kendall Vickers.

1248
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: They've been a nice little tandem in there. They're running thirteen.

1249
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know that it's a hard job. I

1250
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: mean on the.

1251
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: Then on the edge. Von Miller's not even out there yet.

1252
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: Shane Ray, Greg Russo, Boogie Basham, Leonard Floyd, aj Epenessa,

1253
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: Shaq Laws and Kingsley, Jonathan and Cameron Klin Like, I mean, it's.

1254
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying anything about anything, but

1255
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: now you've got your head coach also who's the defensive coordinator.

1256
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: And usually in the staff meetings and coaching meetings, and

1257
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: I think this is the way it goes. Coaches all

1258
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: comme in said, okay, we're gonna evaluate who's and they'll

1259
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: go all right, D line, what do you got? And

1260
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach will say this, this guy's doing this,

1261
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: this guy's doing this, this guy's doing that. This is

1262
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: what I think he's doing great, He's doing great. This

1263
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: guy need more from him. This guy's a great leader.

1264
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: That well, the guy needs more development.

1265
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: Then you've got a Then you've got the coordinator chiming in.

1266
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: In this case, the coordinator has some juice and he says, listen,

1267
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: I like this guy better because last year Leslie was

1268
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: calling the plays like this, I'm gonna call him like this,

1269
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: and I need a guy like that, not that you

1270
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you got a different input

1271
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: from one of the guys who really makes a difference.

1272
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: Who also, by the way, is the head coach, who.

1273
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: Also has some juice as the head coach. So I'm

1274
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: this is one of the parts, the small parts, which

1275
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: is very meaningful of why having a head coach as

1276
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator something we don't know about, you know

1277
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: how it's gonna change things or it has the potential

1278
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: to be a very big difference maker.

1279
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones where we're asking you

1280
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: which defensive a linement are you most excited about this season?

1281
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: And to Mike in Salamanca, what do you got for us?

1282
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: Mike, Uh, yes, I'm inclining about the actually the backup

1283
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 5: quarterback position, and I've heard some rumors and I've also

1284
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 5: read some things about Kyle Allen that he's not really

1285
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 5: looking too good and they might be looking for another

1286
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 5: backup quarterback. Is there anything true about that.

1287
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a little premature to go that far,

1288
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: considering that Kyle Allen hasn't even suited up for a

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Speaker 2: preseason game. Practice. Last week in the Blue and Red

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Speaker 2: scrimmage at the stadium was a rough night for him.

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Speaker 2: I think even he would attest to that had trouble

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Speaker 2: with the quarterback center to quarterback exchange with more than

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Speaker 2: one center, and you know, they've worked to get it

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: cleaned up the last couple of days and it has

1295
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: been better. Some of his decision making hasn't been ideal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's always been on the same

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Speaker 2: page with his receiving corps. For the most part, I

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: would say he has been, But I think we have

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Speaker 2: to remind ourselves this is his first year in this system,

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Speaker 2: and I think that to some degree he's still getting

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Speaker 2: the kinks out. He's got a live arm, he's mobile.

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Speaker 2: I think his overall skill set is closer to that

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen than Matt Barklay's, but he's got to

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01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: pull it together here when we get to the preseason games,

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: and he's gonna play a lot, make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if the first two preseason games don't

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: go exceptionally well for him, then yeah, there could be

1308
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: an issue there and maybe they do have to look elsewhere.

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: So we'll have to There's still time for him, I think,

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Speaker 2: to solidify himself as the number two, but he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have to do it in these preseason games and show

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Speaker 2: marked progress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard to look good when you stand

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: it there next to Josh too. But Kyle Allen, Allen

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Speaker 1: does have a live arm. I think I'm with Brownie.

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Speaker 1: It's too soon to tell. Certainly the Red and Blue,

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: and this started when the Red and when he did

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Speaker 1: have a bad night at the Red and Blue, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it we almost didn't get a chance to even

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Speaker 1: see him play.

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Speaker 2: In fairness, there was nobody on offense that looked great

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Speaker 2: that night, maybe with the exception of Tyrrel Shavers who

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Speaker 2: made a couple of plays in the passing game, but

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Speaker 2: first unit, second unit, third unit, they couldn't get it

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Speaker 2: first down.

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Speaker 1: Right, So all that being said, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a We haven't heard anything like that

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Speaker 1: from any coach, player, staff member, anybody affiliated affiliated with

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Speaker 1: the team. Nobody has said looked at a sideways going.

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about count none, nobody that's strictly I

1331
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: think something that observers, like media guys, those local media

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: guys like I don't know, man, maybe and now and

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: if they're going to do it, now's the time kind

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: of thing. So I don't think any of that comes

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: from the team. I think the team is sitting tight

1336
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: and they want to see him play against.

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Speaker 2: Let's get some live bullets going, right.

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Speaker 1: They're going to see him play against the Indianapolis Colt

1339
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: see what he can do, and him and Matt Barkley.

1340
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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Mike and Ken Moore,

1341
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Mike, how are you doing today?

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01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: Fellows?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 4: Mike Good.

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01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 10: I was just calling, you know.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to talk a little bit about at Oliver.

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Speaker 10: I think I think he's probably you know, has another

1349
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 10: I would say dial to him. You know when you

1350
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 10: look at him, you know he flashes during the year.

1351
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 10: I think he got his money now. I think there's

1352
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 10: a different level to his game that we have not

1353
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 10: seen yet. Which I think hopefully it's going to be

1354
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 10: dialed in this year. I mean, if you're talking about

1355
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 10: the defensive linemen and you know which player I'm excited to

1356
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 10: see this coming year, it's got to be him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I agree, and Brown and I had a

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: conversation and we gave people kind of our observations about

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: where he's at mentally. He seems, you know, we talk

1360
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: a lot about it. You give big guys a big money,

1361
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: extend them into big money, and they kind of take

1362
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: it out of gear because their position demands so much.

1363
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to give a thousand percent when you've already

1364
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: and when you're rich and you can, you kind of

1365
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: take it out of gear. Ed in contrast, that seems

1366
01:09:54,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: rejuvenated by it. It really made him feel different about

1367
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: out himself. When he signed an extension with the Buffalo Bills,

1368
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: I think it rejuvenated him, and he's playing like he

1369
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: wants to earn it and everything affects everybody differently. That

1370
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: seems to be the kind of player he's turning out

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01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: to be. And I think the Bills probably knew that

1372
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: not only when the draft, when they drafted him, but

1373
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: also when they signed him. To an extension. I think

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: he's that kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: He has generational wealth now for his family, and I

1376
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: think he's breathing a little easier about that side of it,

1377
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to actually clear his head

1378
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: and allow him to just go out and play football,

1379
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: which he loves to do anyway. But I will point

1380
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Speaker 2: to Eric Washington's comments earlier in camp for ed Oliver

1381
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: to take the next step in the eyes of his

1382
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: own defensive line coach and assistant head coach, Eric Washington.

1383
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: Coach Washington basically said he has to adopt an anticipatory

1384
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: element to his game. He can't just line up and

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 2: try to beat the man across from He has to

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 2: use film study and other mental parts of him his

1387
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: skill set to pre diagnose what is coming so he

1388
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: can more effectively anticipate beat offensive linemen to spots so

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: he can make more plays on a week in week

1390
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: out basis, we've all seen the flashes. Everybody remembers the

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01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: Detroit game last year where he basically took the thing

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: over defensively, i'lbe it against two backup guards, got the

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: safety in the end zone, forced to fumble, had a sack,

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01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: maybe two sacks in the game, dominated the line of scrimmage.

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: That's what he's capable of. But now his coaches are saying,

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: let's see that every week, especially since we're paying you

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01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 2: to play like that every week. Hopefully that is exactly

1398
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: what we see from him. But a good pick there.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Ed can do. And I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think his disposition and outlook is completely changed because

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 2: the Bills demonstrated their faith in him with a long

1402
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: term contract extension and said we believe in you, now

1403
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: go prove us right. And hopefully he does that.

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's exactly where he seems to

1405
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: be mentally. I think one of the reasons players like

1406
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: it here in Buffalo and by Sean McDermott has carved

1407
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: out this culture is because they're brutally honest with these guys,

1408
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: and they don't put a shine on or positive spin

1409
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: on something that doesn't need to be positively spun.

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01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 2: They don't soft soap it.

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: And and I know this is true when I played.

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: It was true when the guy the old guys. When

1413
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: I came in the league. It was true when I played,

1414
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: and it's true late in my career and after I left,

1415
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: and it's true. Today players have a lot thicker skin

1416
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: than you might think. They like to be told how

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: it is so that they can they know exactly what

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: they have to overcome to be successful. Players are all

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: about being challenged and overcoming obstacles in their career. I

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: did it, everybody did it. Bruce Smith did it, Josh

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01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: Allen did it. We've heard multitude, Steph Diggs did it.

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's got these challenges. That's what we that's what they

1423
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: do as players. You overcome challenges. The more specific you

1424
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: can get about what those challenges are, the better I

1425
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 1: like it. And that's why I think Sean McDermott and

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: the honesty and the brutally honest way they put these

1427
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: players up and they say, listen, you gotta you're not

1428
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: bringing it every week or you're this that, and the

1429
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: other guys dig it, you know, and they they thrive

1430
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: on that. And I think that's why this this aura

1431
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: around the Bills has become so attractive for a lot

1432
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: of players. And other players leave and they say, listen,

1433
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: here's how it was in Buffalo, and they go really,

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: they go, yeah.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: It makes a difference what Bill's defensive lineman are you

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing the most this coming season? Can

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: let us know at eighth three zero five fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty number to get

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: on board more phone calls and we'll crack open the

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Speaker 2: tweets sheets. See what you have to say there as well.

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Speaker 2: open the tweet sheet, haven't hit that yet, as we

1446
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts there for those of us

1447
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: that don't have the time to call into the show

1448
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 2: in terms of which defensive lineman you're most excited about

1449
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: seeing this coming season in a Bill's uniform. Tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: is always brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Patrick leads

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Speaker 2: us off and says, Groot is Greg Russeau. He has

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01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: been working all off season to improve and I think

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: that will have a big impact. He's look good in camp.

1455
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: I'll say that I was saying earlier on the show

1456
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: that the one on one battles during the team segments

1457
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: between Rousseau and Spencer Brown, Leonard Floyd and Dion Dawkins,

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01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: and then the ends will flip and they'll go against

1459
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: the other two the other tackle. They have been very

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 2: entertaining in pads over the course of the last four

1461
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: or five days. And we had Greg here a week

1462
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 2: or so ago, and uh, you know, he's been putting

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Speaker 2: the work in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what else to Greg Russeau now is

1465
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: looking at a guy across the way, Leonard Floyd, who's

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: more like him. Yeah, long, lean and long, So they

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: have the same rushtile so they can not that Vaughn

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: doesn't help him a lot. And Vaughn's a special dude

1469
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: who can help anybody. But having a watching a guy

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Speaker 1: like Leonard Floyd do what he does or he being groot,

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, having the same issues physically the group doesn't

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: happen to do kind of the same things to overcome

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: the challenges. I think he's gonna help him as well.

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: And Leonard Floyd has has got some real chops. I mean,

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: that guy can really play. So I'm I'm looking at

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: Groot as saying he's gonna get better now. As much

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01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: as Vaughn helped him last year, I think Leonard Floyd's

1478
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: got a biggest chance of helping him as this year,

1479
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: as well as forget about his own work ethic.

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01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: From stop playing on the tweet sheet. All of them

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: love this group we got, But I think Pooniford is

1482
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: going to surprise a lot of people, much like Jordan

1483
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: Phillips did the year before he left for Arizona. Steve

1484
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: described poon Afford very effectively the other day on the show.

1485
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: He said, trying to get underneath his pads to root

1486
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: him out of a spot is like trying to flip

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: over a flat rock. That's what you said, and that

1488
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: is a very apt description. I mean, they were running

1489
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: some goal line stuff here today and they cannot get

1490
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: underneath his pads. He fires out of that stance and

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: he's below guy's hips. Yeah, how are you getting underneath?

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: He plays low without being able to get pushed to

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: the ground, you know what I mean. I mean, he's

1494
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: which is not easy to Yeah, it's not easy because

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01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: once you go really low, they just kind of they

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: lean on you and they just pick their own feet

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: up and they push you into the ground. Puna doesn't

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: let him do that. Plus he's got some mobility that

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01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 1: goes laterally that won't let them get off their feet.

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Speaker 1: Just he's really effective. He uses what he has to

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: the greatest degree, and he's got a high motor and

1502
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: a really intelligence about how he plays both the run

1503
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: and the pass. So yeah, Poon affords I think a

1504
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: great addition to this d line and gives them something

1505
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: they don't have.

1506
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: You know, from Dustin, he says, definitely, Rousseau would have

1507
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: been true anyway, but especially because he's reportedly going to

1508
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: get more reps inside dominated that way in college. Got

1509
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: a sack against Tennessee last year, just abusing Aaron Brewer,

1510
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: one of the guards for Tennessee. So yeah, I could

1511
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,919
Speaker 2: see him in there in one of Buffalo's turbo packages,

1512
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: especially when von Miller comes back. It's the I asked

1513
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: him to put in a good word for that package

1514
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: for me because I want to speak it into existence.

1515
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: The NASCAR, Lloyd and von Miller on the edges, Rousseau

1516
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: inside with Oliver, let's go, they'd be fast. He just

1517
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: does that swim over a guard because he's so tall.

1518
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's interesting too because guards don't usually

1519
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: get guys like that. They get guys like Poona Ford, Right,

1520
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to flip over this three hundred pound flat rock.

1521
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: They can't. Then they get a guy who is like

1522
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: a praying mannis who like they can't even reach up

1523
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: to grab his chest. You know, they don't want to,

1524
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: they don't want to extend that far. Yeah, it's a

1525
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: different set of problems that most guys don't get to

1526
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: practice against. So they'd be a little bit of take

1527
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: him a while just to get used to, you know,

1528
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: how to handle him down inside. Let alone you know,

1529
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: let alone having a really great game against him when

1530
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: he's you know, when they've never seen anything like that

1531
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: or not too often you know, see six foot seven

1532
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. Yeah, Klais Campbell would be an exception.

1533
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got six six so yeah and three hundred pounds.

1534
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: Garvey on the tweets sheet says Ed Oliver he is

1535
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: going to be unblockable this year with the talent around him.

1536
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: I mean you got day Kwon presumably as you're starting

1537
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: nose tackle with Ed next to him, and then even

1538
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: if you rotate in a Poona Ford, who's probably gonna

1539
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 2: be Daikwan's rotational replacement. And you also have Tim Settle

1540
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: in the mix there. I mean the guys on the ends.

1541
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 2: You can't double everybody. So somebody's getting one on one matchups.

1542
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 2: Who is it gonna be. You're gonna ignore von Miller

1543
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: when he comes back. Somebody gonna ignore Leonard Floyd and

1544
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: go one on one on the edge.

1545
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about, Brownie. We talked about

1546
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: it in the offseason a ton. How fast can you

1547
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: get pressure with four guys?

1548
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: Now?

1549
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: Can you get it?

1550
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: Now?

1551
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: With four guys? That's that's the right at this point

1552
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: in history in the NFL. That's the quintessential math problem.

1553
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: Less than two point five seconds, one of those four

1554
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: guys gonna get home and the quarterback either has to

1555
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: hang on to it or it has to be gone

1556
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: before that. That's that's the element. So we'll see. You

1557
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: gotta like your chances that you can do it. But

1558
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: there it is right there. Two point five seconds or less.

1559
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: How fast can somebody get to the quarterback and if

1560
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: the ball's not gone, he's down.

1561
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the tap.

1562
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: Four guys, that's all you and you know, we'll see

1563
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: if you can do that. You're gonna You're gonna win.

1564
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna win all.

1565
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: The time, Steve on the tweets, she says, for me,

1566
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: it's a j E. Panessa. I feel like his first

1567
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,480
Speaker 2: two years were hampered by attempting to change his body composition.

1568
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: I feel like last year he played it away comfortable

1569
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: for him and he was very disruptive. I think he

1570
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: takes a big step this season, very quietly, Ajpessa, I

1571
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: want to say, had six and a half sacks last season,

1572
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 2: which I think tied for third on the team. Last season.

1573
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, six and a half is in a breakout

1574
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: year by any means, but there were times where he

1575
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: was disruptive, and he's usually around the ball when it's

1576
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage. I think he had a

1577
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: couple of fumble recoveries as well. So yeah, I mean,

1578
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: if he can parlay that into something closer to a

1579
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: double digitsack season, well then you might really have something there.

1580
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: The question is is he gonna have enough big enough

1581
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 2: preseason in terms of production to justify not only playing time,

1582
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: but a roster spot. I mean, that's how deep this lineup.

1583
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: Is, right, Yeah, there's a lot that has to be

1584
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: shaken out. We've been it seems like we've been in

1585
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: camp for a long time. We've done all these shows

1586
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: over here. We're watching practice every day. We're kind of

1587
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: getting overdosed on football. But there's so much that we

1588
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: don't know yet because we haven't seen him line up

1589
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: and these as much as we've seen in training camp. Brownie,

1590
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: you know this. Those games mean a lot because it's

1591
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: a thing. It's a real thing. Some guys are gamers

1592
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: and some guys are practicers. And you can look great

1593
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: in practice. You get in the game and disappear. Same

1594
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: thing when pads go on. Some guys play look great

1595
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: in shorts and helmets when the pads come on, they

1596
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: disappear when the light comes on and you're playing against

1597
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: another team and something that really means something. We're actually

1598
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: keeping score and you show up. That's big, and we

1599
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know anything about these guys until then.

1600
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was right. Six and a half sacks last season,

1601
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: ten quarterback hits to go along with that, two forced

1602
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: fumbles and seven tackles for a loss. Also had five

1603
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: pass breakups, batted a handful of passes down at the

1604
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, so and I'm telling you right now,

1605
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: when you're playing the Joe Burrows of the world and

1606
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: the ball's coming out in one and a half seconds,

1607
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: having tall guys who can get their hands up sometimes

1608
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: is your only course of action to be remotely effective

1609
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: against a quarterback like that. That's right, there's an element

1610
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: into that too. Who's up next on the tweetsheet here,

1611
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: let's see, we've got Jack up next, who has his

1612
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 2: choices in order in terms of defensive lineman. He's excited

1613
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: to see number one poona Ford, Number two a healthy

1614
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: von Miller, number three Rousseau next to those cats. I

1615
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: think Ford will be a valuable rotational piece. He's strong

1616
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: and hard to move. Put him in with Jones. Ain't

1617
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 2: nobody running on us? Vaughn is Vaughn enough said? Put

1618
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: group next to them along with Floyd and they'll wreak havoc.

1619
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Ford next to day Kwon. I could see that being

1620
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: a goal line defense, to try moving those two guys

1621
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: off their spot.

1622
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't mean mentioned Harrison. I mean Jordan Phillips,

1623
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: who is you know.

1624
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: The biggest, heaviest guy on the Rocks.

1625
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sitting between you and I. We couldn't reach,

1626
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: We couldn't shake hands. You and I across him. He's

1627
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: so long. So he's a big buy with a high

1628
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 1: motor and like we heard in this in the interview

1629
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, he's amped when on game day.

1630
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: He is a high motor dude. And they're gonna have

1631
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: a lot of big bodies who can really go down

1632
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: inside and it's gonna be fun to watch. We'll see

1633
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: him coming back healthy is gonna be a huge thing.

1634
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: Vaughan being healthy is gonna be a huge thing. And

1635
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: the overall health of the roster, just like last year

1636
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: when it sabotaged them, it could be the one thing

1637
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: that makes them, you know, puts them in contention. That

1638
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: that alone of where they were from where they were

1639
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: last year. We're sitting here, you know, we can have

1640
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: two weeks in the training camp and most Bills fans

1641
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: will tell you it's all great, it's all good, but

1642
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, we need to put it together in January.

1643
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: That's what this that's what this season is about for

1644
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: this club. Let's see it in January.

1645
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: Let's go mark on the tweets sheet, says Poona Ford.

1646
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: We need to be better up front to stop the

1647
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: run and improve the interior pass rush. I think the

1648
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 2: up and down play of at Oliver last season, combined

1649
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: with what Bills fans saw at the end of the year,

1650
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: namely Joe Mixon running all over the running all over

1651
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: the Bills in the divisional playoff against the Bengals is

1652
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 2: one of the main reasons why people are so excited

1653
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: to see Poona four because I think they see him

1654
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: as a genuine answer in the run front, which is

1655
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: what his specialty is, and he and Daikwon are going

1656
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: to be the primary run stuffers on this defensive front.

1657
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing it's interesting about the Bills in like

1658
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,879
Speaker 1: last year, they were number five team in the league

1659
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: in yards per game defense defensively, so they were pretty

1660
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: good against the running except that they were fourteenth in

1661
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: yards per running play, so when the teams did decide

1662
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: to run it, the Bills were kind of middle of

1663
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: the pack. But I think some of the time when

1664
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are lighting it up, I mean they scored

1665
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: almost the second most points in the league last year.

1666
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: When they're lighting up on the score, oh these teams

1667
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: can't you know, they just get impatient. They can't hand

1668
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: it off all the time, they're gonna run out of

1669
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: possessions as the game rolls on. So the Bills didn't

1670
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: face that many teams that wanted to or win a

1671
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: position to keep running the ball. When they did, the

1672
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Bills got nicked a little bit. They were middle of

1673
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: the pack fourteenth overall in the in the league at

1674
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: stopping the run per play. So you know that that

1675
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: is something that could be helped or could be done.

1676
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: But we'll see if they're not in the exact same

1677
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: position this year, scoring a lot of points and teams

1678
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: having to keep up on the scoreboard. That lighting up

1679
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: the scoreboard is the best run defense you can have.

1680
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: Well, right, because you tell the opponent you can't run it,

1681
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: it's not efficient enough. You got to throw it and

1682
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: then your run defense looks a whole lot better. We

1683
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: have to take a break here, one more segment to go.

1684
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 2: On a Wednesday at training camp. Here on one Bills Live,

1685
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: presented by coll Out of Health.

1686
01:26:53,680 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1687
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: All right, mark your calendars because Kids' Day is back. Saturday,

1688
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: August twelfth, the Bills will welcome the Colts for their

1689
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 2: lone home preseason matchup at one pm. That's this Saturday

1690
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: Kid's Day presented by Fisher Price, is the perfect time

1691
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: to enjoy a Bill's game with the whole family, starting

1692
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 2: at nine am in the bus and limo a lotted

1693
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: Highmark Stadium. Festivities kickoff with the Junior Tailgate at nine,

1694
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: which will have games, activities, giveaways, along with a dance

1695
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 2: party hosted by DJ Milk. So if you have tickets

1696
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: and you're headed to the game, get there early to

1697
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: participate in the Junior Tailgate at nine Steve. The Colts

1698
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: put out their unofficial depth chart, and the one noteworthy

1699
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 2: name on that list Isaiah McKenzie, listed as the team's

1700
01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: number one punt returner. Your thoughts, he can go.

1701
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: He did it for us, He did it for the Bills.

1702
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: He's got some speed.

1703
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: We know that.

1704
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: I've always said it. It's about decision making. He's got

1705
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: enough experience to do the right thing, and I think

1706
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: having him return punts, you know, obviously he's gonna make

1707
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: that ball club if he's their number one punt returner.

1708
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: McKenzie also listed as the as a starting receiver on

1709
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: their depth chart. So that's hard, Isaiah, I don't know,

1710
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: Like I mean, they list a three receiver set so

1711
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: it's it's basically Alec Pierce, their third round pick from

1712
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: last year, Mackenzie the free agent pickup, and then obviously

1713
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 2: the big tall kid is on the other side that

1714
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 2: they drafted out of USC, Michael Pittman Pateman. So we're

1715
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: getting closer. Preseason opener just a few days away. We'll

1716
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: be talking more about it on Thursday and Friday. Obviously,

1717
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: we will be live on location Steve tomorrow at the

1718
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Delta Sonic on West Henrietta Road, twenty nine seventy West Henriette.

1719
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Be sure to check us out there from one to three,

1720
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: but we'll have all the dealings on the last day

1721
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: of camp. We'll see tomorrow