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Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horses, presented to you by your

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Speaker 1: Southern California Toyota Dealers. I'm Kirsten Watson alongside Jab Long,

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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew. It is Week four, but before we

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Speaker 1: get ahead to the exciting matchup in Chicago against the Bears,

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Speaker 1: we have to go back to week three, the home opener,

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Speaker 1: A huge win against the rivals forty nine ers, A

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Speaker 1: comeback win. When you guys think about just that one,

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Speaker 1: where does that win rink for you all when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the regular season, A comeback win and just

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Speaker 1: the performance that this team had to put themselves in

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Speaker 1: a better position to start the season. I'll start with you, JB.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to avoid the question, but can we

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Speaker 2: acknowledge greatness in the building? First? This year he's joining

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Speaker 2: us with a magic number at what too?

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 2: How about the summer of show?

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's been crazy, Oh my goodness, it's been crazy.

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Speaker 2: Still drying off from that gatorade bath you got?

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Speaker 4: Did they get you wet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? They got me.

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Speaker 4: Why did they talk to someone bought that?

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Speaker 1: I would say yes. However, it's just if we can

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Speaker 1: clinch tonight and the Dodgers can then it's going to

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Speaker 1: happen again today, so it don't even worry about.

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Speaker 2: Handled it like the true professional that you have your

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Speaker 2: bonnet on.

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Speaker 4: We can't get that pretty hairway.

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Speaker 2: It's too late, busy time year though for you, and

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Speaker 2: glad to have you back in the RAMS environment, and

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Speaker 2: you picked the perfect moment. That one ranks pretty highly

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous that I wasn't there. I'll be honest, very jealous.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you got to kind of separate

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Speaker 2: into two categories, Like what it means for this season,

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Speaker 2: we don't know yet. It depends whether or not you

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Speaker 2: cash it in this week in Chicago, next week against

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Speaker 2: the Packers, and on and on. But zooming out bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: It's nice not to have to deal with the regular season.

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Speaker 2: That's so fine nonsense anymore, you know. I think as

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Speaker 2: they continue to kind of grow their audience, their fan

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Speaker 2: base and get bragging rights. You know, we previewed it

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Speaker 2: on this show last week, right, like the Escalator Gang

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Speaker 2: and all those sorts of things like this is what

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Speaker 2: rivalry football is all about. It's awesome. And next year

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Speaker 2: when you play the forty nine ers, you have you

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Speaker 2: don't have to answer to any of those.

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Speaker 5: Questions, I think you're exactly right. It was bigger. It

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Speaker 5: is probably the biggest one for me, just.

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Speaker 4: The biggest regular season, ye know, just just for on.

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Speaker 5: A personal being from the Bay Area, living up there

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Speaker 5: all week, I heard from you know, I have my

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Speaker 5: sons in high school. My other one does youth. All

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Speaker 5: the coaches are Niners fans. Everyone's Niners fans. So I'm

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Speaker 5: just chirping left and right now. You know, I'm trying

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Speaker 5: to hold my own, but they you start to wear

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Speaker 5: you down after so long, and so to be able

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Speaker 5: to go back home this week and everyone be quiet

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Speaker 5: when I walk in to go back home, and my neighbor,

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Speaker 5: you know, to see his little Niner flag flat, and.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how are you things going good? I hope your

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Speaker 4: day is getting better? Right?

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Speaker 5: It just it just makes you feel good because I

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Speaker 5: remember as a player, not being a fan too, and

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Speaker 5: obviously working with the team and being around these guys.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot more than that, right, Like people's days,

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Speaker 5: especially like when they LEVI South and all that. But

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Speaker 5: that's just more on a personal note. But for a

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Speaker 5: team perspective, I thought it was awesome. It was awesome

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Speaker 5: for Jared verse to get after Trent Williams right, like

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Speaker 5: on a football aspect, you brought him.

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Speaker 4: Into be physical, and he was physical. He won that battle.

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Speaker 5: To bring Alaric Jackson a Lark Jackson to come back

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Speaker 5: and to handle Nick Bosa like, those are monumental wins

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Speaker 5: for this team because that's what you built this offseason for,

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Speaker 5: is to be able to beat the Niners and then

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Speaker 5: do it without your guys, right, And granted they didn't

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Speaker 5: have their guys either, but to do with the guys

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Speaker 5: biggest regular season win off of coming off of you know,

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Speaker 5: not winning so many. I know last year you won

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Speaker 5: the last one, but no one really played, right.

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Speaker 2: But I'm counting the last one too. Two game regular

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Speaker 4: I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it for sure, But I'm just saying more

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Speaker 5: for a psychological thing is their guys had to play

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually really perfect segue though, because then

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Speaker 1: also when you look at starting zero to two is

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Speaker 1: one thing, but two pick up a win, one at

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Speaker 1: how much confidence can that bring, especially considering you do

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Speaker 1: have players who had to step up. There are a

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Speaker 2: I think the most precious resource we have and all

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Speaker 2: walks of life is time. And I think that wind

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Speaker 2: brought you the time you need to hang in this fight,

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Speaker 2: to put yourself back on a track to play meaningful

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Speaker 2: when you have a chance to really go play for something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said it best.

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Speaker 5: It allows like it's like the first step of having

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Speaker 5: a good day.

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Speaker 4: Then you have a good week, then you have a

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Speaker 5: Right, And so I think this win to see the

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Speaker 5: energy in the locker room, to hear a coach McVeigh

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Speaker 5: a time, right, it was just a different type of energy.

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Speaker 4: I felt like you, I had.

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Speaker 5: A moral victory against Detroit. Oh, if we were healthy,

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Speaker 5: we played Detroit, we had a chance. Then you had

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Speaker 5: the debacle in Arizona. Then you come back and you

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Speaker 5: find a way to win. Now it's about can we

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Speaker 5: stack these wins each week? And while we're stacking, all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, Cooper comes out of a cast up,

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Speaker 4: The coup is working out on the sideline like.

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Speaker 2: All of Williams. You're starting corner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like all these guys are starting to like

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Speaker 5: show back up and it's like we've we've added and

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Speaker 5: we talked about this JB a lot and curious you

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Speaker 5: right now, why guys are getting hurt, these other guys

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Speaker 4: Oh this guy did this, Oh this guy did that.

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Speaker 5: And now we have depth, we can be a more

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Speaker 2: I was having a really hard time seeing the blessing.

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Speaker 2: I was seeing most dis skies though down two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying you and be both.

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Speaker 5: I was like oh, I don't think I could use

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Speaker 5: were like, hey, two two Atwells down there somewhere, just

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Speaker 4: Down with it.

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Speaker 2: In part because you saw this, he was like John

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Speaker 2: snow there on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So I want.

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Speaker 2: To ask him about the world.

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Speaker 1: Can you just take us inside the studio of knowing

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Speaker 1: like you were the only analyst there were ten of

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Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, you're the only one to pick the Rams.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, That's how it is all the time.

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Speaker 5: And I'm okay with that. Like I said, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: stand with the Ramley. I've kind of told myself, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm the honorary CEO.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who the CEO of the.

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Speaker 5: Ramley is the organization of the fan base, but I'll

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Speaker 5: be him for right now, and I'll stand to the forefront.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to be there. I'll stand by myself

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Speaker 5: But when we win, just know I'm gonna rise up

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Speaker 5: like the phoenix from the ashes and I'm gonna shine

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Speaker 5: bright and yell Rams all day.

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Speaker 4: So it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Have you been back in the studio, and what was

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Speaker 5: I went back right after the game and one of

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Speaker 5: I just, I don't want to rub it in your face,

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Speaker 5: It's getting a nice wink and smiled confident. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've told you this yet. But the crossing guard on

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Speaker 5: Would you see the wind that I'm talking about? Like

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Speaker 5: I needed that. I was down to my last leg.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to tell you it's hard. It's hard out

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Speaker 5: You can't let a fan base get you like the

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Speaker 5: happy that our fans are players, even John Johnson got on.

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Speaker 4: I saw a podcast where he was talking trash like it.

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Speaker 5: Gets at you if you you know, you gotta find

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Speaker 5: a way to get out of there, and they found

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bigger than all of us.

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Speaker 1: It was a huge one. It was a huge win.

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Speaker 1: And now it's kind of but it does allow you

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Speaker 1: bigger picture. It's still only week four in the regular

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Speaker 1: season when you look at what the NFC West like

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Speaker 1: what could this mean when it comes to the standings

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Speaker 1: and even just the goals for a postseason run potentially

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Speaker 1: taking the division as well.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you always want to set yourself up

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Speaker 5: the year. And so even though it's week four, you

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Speaker 5: only get seventeen opportunities, right, And that's the difference between

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Speaker 5: eighty two, one hundred, whatever it may be. You only

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Speaker 5: So winning this one at home gives you kind of

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Speaker 4: A tough Chicago team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's definitely this divisions in anyone's hands as

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Speaker 2: I hope that's the narrative we're spending in a couple

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Speaker 5: Jamie's a logical one in this world relationship. I'm the

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Speaker 4: Five and oh, we're ready to go. We've looked right.

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Speaker 1: All right, with three weeks down now, I think it's

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Speaker 1: talk about what we know about the twenty four Rams. Yes,

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Speaker 1: What is one thing that you think you have learned

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Speaker 5: The defensive line is serious, That's what I know. I

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Speaker 5: More and more plays like that, and he's talking, he's

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Speaker 4: He didn't think he had to work. And so.

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Speaker 5: The deep, the young defensive line, and Jared verse As

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I see get well, let me try

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Speaker 2: this one on for size, and I want to hear

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Speaker 2: I get it. The conversion rate has to pick up,

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Speaker 2: And I really like the challenge against Kleb this week

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let me see if I get this right.

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Speaker 1: Fearsome twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Fearsome Forsom is like, you know what this

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Speaker 4: Four?

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Speaker 1: I like it all right, Let's see if it sticks.

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Speaker 2: I'll stay on defense for mine, okay, which is rush

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Speaker 2: Do you think whether Keenan Allen plays or not. Like, yes,

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, there was member in the game. There was

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Speaker 4: You don't have to do as many moving parts.

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Speaker 2: How about on offense? What do you think you know

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, he almost pulled a I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is out there in his sixteenth season.

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Speaker 5: I love it though, Again, like I said, if you

441
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Speaker 5: can do that, you're stretching the defense in ways that,

442
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Speaker 5: especially that defensive ways they'd never been stretched before. Horizontally

443
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,399
Speaker 5: and then you fake it and now like, where was

444
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 5: Fred Warner?

445
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Speaker 4: How many times do you call Fred Warner's name on someone?

446
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Speaker 2: Well, you said the fact that I noticed and felt

447
00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,000
Speaker 2: Verse more than Bosa. If you had told me that

448
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,840
Speaker 2: before the game, I'd say, Okay, then they're gonna win

449
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Speaker 2: this one.

450
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Speaker 1: They can win this one, and they did just that.

451
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Speaker 1: When you guys think about though, with gearing up four

452
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Speaker 1: a week four, I think one of the biggest things

453
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Speaker 1: coming out of this past week was there were no injuries.

454
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Speaker 1: Like that's huge right now? How important, though, is that

455
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Speaker 1: when you are preparing for another tough week in this league,

456
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Speaker 1: but knowing that you at least have some continuity that

457
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Speaker 1: you get to build off of.

458
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Speaker 4: I think that that was the one it maybe rejoice.

459
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Speaker 5: I think I started to dance when I heard that, like, hey,

460
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,240
Speaker 5: no injuries, because if you look at what the Niners

461
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Speaker 5: that are going through right now, they have all types

462
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Speaker 5: of stuff going on. After that game. Yeah, there's a

463
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Speaker 5: lot of guys that are after these games. It's like

464
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Speaker 5: to hear the Rams say no injuries, It's like who okay,

465
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Speaker 5: Like we get the same five offensive linemen, we get

466
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Speaker 5: the same receivers, we get the same defense, We get

467
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Speaker 5: the same this and they get to learn how to

468
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Speaker 5: play with each other.

469
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Speaker 4: Right.

470
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Speaker 5: So I know as a running back, when I had

471
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Speaker 5: the same five linemen, they knew exactly how I wanted

472
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Speaker 5: to run.

473
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Speaker 4: I knew exactly how they were going to block it.

474
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Speaker 4: And we didn't have to talk, right.

475
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Speaker 5: Because we've repped these plays so many times and every

476
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Speaker 5: week again we talk about confidence. Every week you get

477
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Speaker 5: more confident in what you're doing. That's the most important thing.

478
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Speaker 5: So to have no injuries to be you know, they

479
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,200
Speaker 5: always talk about the hottest teams in December. The hottest

480
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,439
Speaker 5: teams are always the healthiest teams because they're always they

481
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Speaker 5: played to get yeah, their majority of the year to

482
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Speaker 5: get going. So if you can do that and stay healthy,

483
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,120
Speaker 5: it's huge, all right.

484
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Speaker 1: Now, Week four coming up, Caleb Williams, quarterback first a

485
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,160
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick this past year. It's gonna

486
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Speaker 1: be a tough one. What do you like about this matchup?

487
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Speaker 1: And how do you have to find ways to limit

488
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Speaker 1: him in this one?

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, the play doesn't begin until it breaks down

490
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Speaker 2: when you're going against Caleb, right, Yes, And I like

491
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Speaker 2: seeing them have to throw at fifty plus times against Indianapolis.

492
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Speaker 2: But I'm also afraid of them throwing at fifty plus

493
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Speaker 2: times against the Rams, if that makes sense.

494
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I agree to disagree at the same time,

495
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Speaker 5: but we'll go ahead.

496
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Speaker 4: I'll explain.

497
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Speaker 2: Well, I have great respect for their skill group. I

498
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Speaker 2: think I can't come up with another instance where a

499
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Speaker 2: top quarterback has walked into a situation as favorable as

500
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Speaker 2: Caleb has at his skill positions. Now, his offensive line

501
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: is poorse and that's where I think the Rams can

502
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Speaker 2: really dictate terms in this game. But I don't know.

503
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Speaker 2: I feel like if he throws at fifty times, it's

504
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: gonna mean good things for the Rams. I feel like

505
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna give you a chance to go out and

506
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: make an impact play on defense. And it especially means

507
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 2: that they're probably not leaning on you with their running game,

508
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 2: which I think there's still the upside potential for them

509
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Speaker 2: to be impactful with the bats that they have.

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter out of Chicago

511
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 5: about not running the football. They need to run it

512
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 5: more so expect them to come in very similar like Arizona's,

513
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Speaker 5: like we gotta get Marvin going.

514
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: We need to cover Marvin then with three people that

515
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Speaker 4: if they got to get him going.

516
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Speaker 5: So understand, we're gonna have to load the box because

517
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 5: they're gonna try to run the ball and if they

518
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 5: get success early, they're gonna stick with it. But the

519
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 5: challenge for me this week, and what I said I

520
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 5: somewhat disagreed, was it's.

521
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Speaker 4: Time for you to get to the quarterback.

522
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 5: You have more than opportunity to get to the You're

523
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Speaker 5: gonna the player is gonna break down.

524
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Speaker 4: It always does with Caleb. That's where he's at his best.

525
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Speaker 5: But it's time for you to not miss the tackle

526
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Speaker 5: like you did on Rock Party, or not miss the

527
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 5: sack like you did on Kyler Murray, or you gotta

528
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Speaker 5: convert this week. Right, There's been three weeks of us

529
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Speaker 5: not converting. It's time to convert these, especially against these

530
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 5: mobile quarterbacks. You convert on a couple of those sacks,

531
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Speaker 5: they start to come in bunches. Then all of a sudden,

532
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 5: you have confidence. Right, And again, I think the biggest thing,

533
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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna keep using the word confidence, is when

534
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 5: you play in the league and you're young, you gain

535
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 5: confidence by having success. The Brock Party play that lasted

536
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 5: like forty five seconds, you were going I thought I

537
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 5: was gonna give us the water.

538
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Speaker 4: You were out of breath because he was just scrambling.

539
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Speaker 5: All around, no question, as you should, but you had

540
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Speaker 5: two times to get them, right, you had, there was

541
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Speaker 5: two times to get them. Bradon Fist had him early,

542
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Speaker 5: you didn't get them. And then I want to say,

543
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 5: deared versus was coming back. He probably could have went

544
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Speaker 5: around the tackle or around that old line instead of

545
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Speaker 5: going underneath. But you had a chance to get him

546
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Speaker 5: in those situations. If you were to get him down,

547
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 5: you be more confident, like, Okay, go ahead, scramble around. Well,

548
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 5: this is something that we have to use because we

549
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 5: do have Kyler Murray in our division right that you

550
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: want to be able to. You do have Brock Purty

551
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,479
Speaker 5: that moves around as well. If you can convert some

552
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Speaker 5: of those into sacks, confidence.

553
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 4: Starts to go up.

554
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Speaker 5: You talked about the O line especially, I wanted the

555
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 5: left tackle is you know, very similar what we had

556
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Speaker 5: and we want to.

557
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: Do both tackles questionable so far this week in press.

558
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Speaker 5: So if you can find a way to get to

559
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Speaker 5: Caleb and get him down, the confidence starts to rise,

560
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 5: and then you want him to throw the ball fifty times,

561
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 5: because now you.

562
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Speaker 4: Know you're not tired. When you're getting sacks. It's like, oh,

563
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Speaker 4: oh I get a.

564
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Speaker 6: Hey, let me get another one, come on third down,

565
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 6: let me get back out there, right, And so I think,

566
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Speaker 6: I think again it's just the confidence of making play

567
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Speaker 6: after play after play will definitely rise this week if they.

568
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Speaker 1: Get an opportunity with kind of just going back. I

569
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Speaker 1: never're talking about the confidence on our end, but just

570
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Speaker 1: considering what Caleb Williams is able to do in week three,

571
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Speaker 1: having over three hundred and fifty passing yards, being able

572
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Speaker 1: to connect with Rome Odunze. When you think about just

573
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Speaker 1: kind of their dynamic that they're building over there, how

574
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Speaker 1: dangerous could that be for those two, two rookie players,

575
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Speaker 1: two top draft picks who could have a very bright

576
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Speaker 1: future in this space. What are you seeing from that?

577
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Speaker 1: The taste that we've gotten from that kind of there's.

578
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Speaker 2: A ton of like latent potential there. And I hope

579
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Speaker 2: what we didn't see last week as the start of

580
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: something special between those two. You get Keenan Allen backed

581
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: in the mix, like another week on time on task,

582
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: like they can be a problem, but I still hope

583
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: that the version of the Bears, we're seeing as a

584
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: group that's turning it over more than they're scoring touchdowns.

585
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Speaker 5: And I also want to say this, Remember the Colts

586
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 5: should have been up like two touchdowns at one point,

587
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 5: but they get down there in the red zone or

588
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 5: the five yard line and he throws that crazy pick right, So,

589
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: not turn the ball over offensively puts more pressure on

590
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears. Forcing them to have to drive the

591
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: length of the field against your defense puts more pressure

592
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 5: on them. When they get some energy and some you know,

593
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 5: some turnovers to which the defense causes allows him the

594
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 5: more opportunity. Now, yes, they're gonna be really good. Like

595
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 5: you can just see it already. They have something going on.

596
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 5: He looks for him when he scrambles. He doesn't look

597
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 5: for DJ Moore, He looks for Dooonda. So yeah, that's

598
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 5: gonna be scary. But we got to make.

599
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: Sure that it's scary after this week.

600
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Speaker 5: Right, make sure when you do scramblehen you start to

601
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 5: see them scram around, you have to plaster and stick

602
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: with your guy and let them go.

603
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: It's not a comfortable test for week four, but I

604
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: think it's exactly the one the Rams need in this

605
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: moment right for all the things you described, and also

606
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: I think you said already maybe the best defense they

607
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: face this year.

608
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure.

609
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's I was not expecting this to be

610
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: as much of a defense forward Bears group as they

611
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Speaker 2: have been through the first month of the season.

612
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there, and then they present different challenges.

613
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson is a very good, sneaky corner and the

614
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: way that they handled Houston's offense was insane to see

615
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 5: how the Bears beat them up, right, And so I

616
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 5: think this is a great test, a great challenge for

617
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Speaker 5: Sean and this offense of how are we going to

618
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 5: attack them right?

619
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Speaker 4: How we're going to put them in position? Do they

620
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: have they seen guys like we have right on top

621
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Speaker 4: of that?

622
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Speaker 5: And this may be an issue or not, But if

623
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Speaker 5: it's windy, it's going to be a problem. It's a

624
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Speaker 5: different type of Chicago is a different place, and we've

625
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 5: only been there when it's cold, which is you know,

626
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Speaker 5: I'm happy we get to go now and have to

627
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: be cold, But when it's windy it could be an issue.

628
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Speaker 2: Can I tell you on something though? Is there a

629
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: school of thought where paradoxically the Rams are actually a

630
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: harder team to prepare for this week than they were

631
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: a week ago or even when they had Cooper Cup.

632
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like, now you gotta worry about two two out,

633
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: we'll running past you. Now you got to worry about

634
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Hunter Long being in there at the point of attacking

635
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: a two tight end set, Like, what what are they

636
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: expecting from the Rams? It's a little bit more multiple,

637
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: if not complex.

638
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 5: You have Parkinson too, Kobe Parkinson, who had a couple

639
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 5: of big catches and then they had the big drop. Right,

640
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: if he catches that ball, that's a first down. There's

641
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: more what happens when you lose your stars. There's not

642
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 5: guys you can key on, right. I remember this. I

643
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 5: don't know if they still do it, but they used

644
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 5: to put game breakers up at the beginning of the week.

645
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: These are the guys that we have to stop in

646
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: order to win, right, Normally that'd be pookin Nakoupa. This year,

647
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams. Well, now it's just

648
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 5: Kyron on there in Matthew Stafford. You don't know about

649
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: the other positions, which means you can't key and there's

650
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 5: not a guy to key on to say we want

651
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: to run this coverage to stop this guy. It's just

652
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 5: we got to run this coverage and we got to

653
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: be in these spots, right, And so I think that

654
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 5: that puts a lot of pressure on the defense. I'll

655
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 5: be able to kill on one guy in the passing

656
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: game to say, Okay, Cooper Cup, we know he runs

657
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 5: these routes, this is what we want to stop.

658
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 4: Well, no, no, no, it's not like that anymore.

659
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Speaker 5: You have a bunch of guys who can run different

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Speaker 5: routes that can make different plays.

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Speaker 1: When we look ahead now, and I know that we've

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Speaker 1: kind of dived in through just different parts and we've

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Speaker 1: kind of hit on some keys to victory, But if

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Speaker 1: you had to really kind of key in on something

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Speaker 1: specific when it comes to this matchup the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Bears in Chicago, we've talked about it. Best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: it's Chicago and September, not Chicago in December. Wind could

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Speaker 1: be a factor, but I think hopefully weather should be

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Just upfront, what would you say is one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest things. Let's start with you JB. Just

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Speaker 1: kind of going into this one that the Rams are

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Speaker 1: going to have to focus in on and do well.

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Speaker 2: I know it's top of mind for the fan base,

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Speaker 2: and that is playing with the lead for once. Like

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Speaker 2: the Rams have fallen behind by two touchdowns and all

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Speaker 2: three games so far, and in that sense, they're very

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Speaker 2: fortunate to be one and two. Bears are in the

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Speaker 2: same boat. I think the Bears have led for less

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Speaker 2: than eight minutes combined this season. So there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a team in the history of football that hasn't wanted

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Speaker 2: to start fast. But I think the Rams, especially in

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Speaker 2: these circumstances, sure would be nice to go play for

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Speaker 2: a league with a lead for the first time this season.

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Speaker 5: I think winning the turnover battle is gonna be huge.

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Speaker 5: I know that's always like the easiest one to do,

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Speaker 5: but you're gonna have opportunity officially to turn the ball over.

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Speaker 4: And that's going to be important.

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Speaker 5: And then on the other side of it, they do

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Speaker 5: a great job the ball over, so you got to

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Speaker 5: make sure you protect the football and don't throw interceptions

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Speaker 5: and don't do those things because again, you're playing a

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Speaker 5: rookie quarterback and you want They exposed him a lot

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Speaker 5: last week with fifty passes plus pass that's a lot

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Speaker 5: of exposure to a quarterback. So if you can find

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Speaker 5: a way to get him back in that number again,

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Speaker 5: you have.

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Speaker 4: What you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got the lowest passer rating allowed this season,

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Speaker 2: I think because of all those takeaways in their secondary.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna try and speak this into existence

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Speaker 2: here in between the Horns. The Rams are due for

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Speaker 2: a non offensive touchdown. They're overdue, and now that special

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Speaker 2: teams has turned a corner, I really believe that this

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Speaker 2: can be the week, if not on teams, maybe with

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Speaker 2: a defensive touchdown. It's been since Christmas against the Broncos

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago since they've gotten points, gotten

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Speaker 2: a touchdown anywhere except their offense. So I'm hoping this

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Speaker 2: is the week.

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Speaker 1: Stafford is twelve and nine all time against the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Is there something going into a magic where you're like,

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Speaker 1: I got this? I mean, he's always got I should

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Speaker 1: say that, but just knowing how good you are against

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Speaker 1: a specific.

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Speaker 2: Team, Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone in Chicago's

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Speaker 2: happy to see Matthew Stafford at Soldier Field because even

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Speaker 2: when he was playing with sub five hundred Lions teams,

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Speaker 2: he's come in there and found a way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think it's you know, I don't know if they

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Speaker 5: talked about what hotel you should stay in and all

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Speaker 5: that stuff, But I think when you have a familiarity

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Speaker 5: with the city and the hotel and the people, Like

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Speaker 5: when we used to go to India every year, I'd

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Speaker 5: be like, we're at the Marriotte right here, bro, Like,

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Speaker 5: I know what room I'm gonna be in, I know

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Speaker 5: how I'm gonna sleep tonight. I'm good. Here goes a

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Speaker 5: buck eighty. You know what's coming, right. But then if

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Speaker 5: we were to go to like to New England, I

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Speaker 5: don't feel the best. This is not the Marriott that

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Speaker 5: I'm used to. Maybe we stay at a boutique hotel.

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Speaker 5: Food maybe not be the same. So I think when

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Speaker 5: you play those teams in your division, you're always.

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Speaker 4: You're comfortable because you go there all the every year.

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Speaker 5: So hopefully it is the same hotel, same food, same people,

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Speaker 5: same place, same locker room.

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Speaker 4: You go out there and make place.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully same protection. Because I just think we got

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Speaker 2: a glimpse in week three of what his partnership with

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Speaker 2: McVeigh can mean in year four. Right, the first two

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Speaker 2: weeks we were robbed of that because there were just

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Speaker 2: turnstiles up front and he was under extreme duress. When

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Speaker 2: you can get him to three Mississippi, I just think

743
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Speaker 2: he's out of place right now where he has threaded

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Speaker 2: the needle perfectly between being aggressive, being lethal, but also

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Speaker 2: being protective of the possession. And this is a game

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Speaker 2: where if he checks to the right things, if he

747
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Speaker 2: makes the right decisions, and if you can keep him upright,

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Speaker 2: I believe good things are going to happen.

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Speaker 5: You have to give a shout out to Bowlimmer and

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Speaker 5: Logan Bruss for stepping in no doubt and doing an

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Speaker 5: awesome job against hard Graves and all like.

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Speaker 3: And even did it's coming off the bench like that,

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Speaker 3: I was so nervous and and and credit to the

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Speaker 3: staff and the developing Logan Brush from what he was

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Speaker 3: when he first got here to where he is now,

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Speaker 3: where he can step in and start and play a

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Speaker 3: whole game.

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Speaker 5: That is huge, the development the Rams have done with it.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, they're guys developing pass rushers, but o' lineman,

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Speaker 5: DB's linebackers, Like, let's remember, these aren't guys that normally

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Speaker 5: play all the time that they played with. These are

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Speaker 5: guys that are more special teams guys or reserve role

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Speaker 5: guys that stepped in and had a huge role in

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Speaker 5: that game.

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Speaker 2: This is where the Rams wanted to get to right

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Speaker 2: with Matthew Stafford, Circumstances don't have to be perfect for him.

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Speaker 2: He can elevate the other ten around him. He just

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Speaker 2: has to know who those ten are going to be. Right.

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Speaker 2: Like you saw in that second half, he can bring

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Speaker 2: out the best into too. He can bring out the

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Speaker 2: best in Jordan Winnington and DeMarcus Robinson. You know he can.

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Speaker 2: He can deal with Logan Bruss and aj protecting his

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Speaker 2: He just needs to know here on Thursday that that's

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Speaker 2: how it's going to be this weekend, because that's what

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Speaker 2: every quarterback needs, right Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean the Tyler Johnson when he doesn't go up

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Speaker 5: the field and he runs over to him, he's like, hey, hey,

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Speaker 5: I need you to do this some some something.

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Speaker 4: And then as he walking off, he was like, dap

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Speaker 4: me up. You're good. Right.

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Speaker 5: That's leadership, because if you think about it, most quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: will be.

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Speaker 4: Like what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you do this?

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Speaker 4: He's like, hey, we're good, don't worry about it. And

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Speaker 4: that was that was a big play early in the game.

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Speaker 5: If he's able to scramble and make that connection, that

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Speaker 5: drive keeps going. And so to me, you talked about

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Speaker 5: the leadership and then the ability to develop the young

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Speaker 5: guys to play is huge.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's the comeback king for a reason, right,

792
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Speaker 2: whether it's game winning drives, fourth quarter comebacks. I just

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Speaker 2: hope for the Rams sake that this isn't one of

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Speaker 2: those weeks where he's got to go get it in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter if need be, he's your guy. I

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Speaker 2: just hope this is the week that the Rams play

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Speaker 2: four quarters of complimentary football and he can lean on

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Speaker 2: the Chicago defense with his running game and kind of

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Speaker 2: shorten the game and get out of there with a

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Speaker 2: win as opposed to needing to have a flair for

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Speaker 2: the dramatic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well that is going to be the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing. The hope is they can start faster, get

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Speaker 1: things going, not play from behind, and they have a

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Speaker 1: leader in Matthew Stafford who has been nothing but lights out.

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Speaker 2: Important question for you as our guest hosts, because this

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Speaker 2: has come up and I think we need your opinion

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Speaker 2: on this. Does this really look like a Reese's peanut

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Speaker 2: butter Cup to you because our audience, Yes, our audience

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Speaker 2: is pretty sure that that's it. It's a big piece.

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Speaker 1: It's the ridges on the side, but they're delicious, so

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Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect coffee table.

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Speaker 2: I think we all need an nil deal.

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Speaker 4: But I knew that him writing not not.

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Speaker 2: A verbal this Halloween season, I needed.

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Speaker 4: Him writing, not a verbal agreement.

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Speaker 1: I love it spooky in here. All right. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: a wrap for this episode of Between the Horns, presented

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Speaker 1: to you by our Southern California to a yoga deelers.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun one coming off of what

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Speaker 1: it was an electric performance against the Niners and hopefully

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Speaker 1: can carry that momentum into the Chicago Bears. So from

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Speaker 1: Kirsten Watson, J B. Long, Maurice Jones, Drew, we thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining and watching today.

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Speaker 2: And go Clinch tonight.

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Speaker 1: Oh fingers crossed. I hope So I'm a Dodgers fan now, Yes,