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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with

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Speaker 2: the story of the week.

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Speaker 3: So our first story of the week is super bizarre

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Speaker 3: and I'm so interested to follow it as we go along.

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Speaker 3: So a few weeks ago, this guy hosted a party

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Speaker 3: with three of his friends to watch the Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Doesn't think anything of it, right, so he goes into

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Speaker 3: what he says is like some forty eight hour sleep period, which.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think that's weird, dun, I seriously cannot even

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Speaker 2: sleep like four hours in a row, So I just

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Speaker 3: But continue, Okay, So this party ends, he says. He

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Speaker 3: goes to sleep for essentially the next forty eight hours

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Speaker 3: that the three friends he believed to have left are

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Speaker 3: dead in the backyard. So, okay, this is a great story.

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Speaker 3: So it starts, it starts getting wild from there. So

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Speaker 3: what didn't that happening was? I guess? In his hibernation

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Speaker 2: He didn't notice.

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Speaker 3: That their cars were still outside, but didn't think it

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Speaker 3: have been snow on the ground, it was cold, and

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Speaker 3: they were drinking, so it wasn't that unusual that the

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Speaker 3: So that's number one. So a couple of days goes by,

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Speaker 3: and obviously these guys' families don't hear from them and

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Speaker 3: start getting concerned, and they're calling the homeowner being like, hey,

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Speaker 3: where are they He's not answering because he's sleeping allegedly

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Speaker 3: this whole time. So the fiance of one of the

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Speaker 3: guys goes to his house two days later, knocks on

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Speaker 3: and then goes around to the back I'm assuming to

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Speaker 3: So the police arrive, they start banging on the door more,

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Speaker 3: and that's when the guy finally wakes up and is like, sorry,

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Speaker 3: I was sleeping with headphones on with a fan. I

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Speaker 2: Question of what happened. I don't know. I just think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously this is upsetting to the family members

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Speaker 2: that found them in this condition, but just knowing that

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Speaker 2: that there was probably drugs and alcohol involved in all

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Speaker 2: always have to wait forever for the toxicology, so as

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Speaker 2: soon as that gets back, we'll talk about it more.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that there's going to be anything

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Speaker 2: way that you could sleep for forty eight hours is

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Speaker 2: if you're on drugs. Okay, Like, I'm sorry, but that's

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Speaker 2: just how it is, so or a coma, so either,

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Speaker 2: you know, either way, I just I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: anything real. It is weird that three people died at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, since this has happened, the guy was

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Speaker 3: something else might have been involved. There was thoughts that

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you think about that, but it's possible.

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Speaker 2: But they would have had had to been severely intoxicated

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Speaker 2: So it is possible that that was their ultimate cause

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Speaker 2: against their will. I don't know. Just let's move on

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Speaker 2: to the celebrity news because I don't think there's really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to wrap that up, but the

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Speaker 3: since abuse was involved in some capacity. But yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's get onto the celebrity news of the week. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so something we've been talking about in the gross room

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Speaker 3: this week is personally my least favorite subject in the

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Speaker 3: true crime world, which is stalking. So, speaking of Kansas

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so stalking is a huge issue, and I want

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Speaker 2: to tell you guys some statistics because it really is shocking.

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Speaker 2: This is according to the Bureau of Justice, and this

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Speaker 2: is US residents only over the age of sixteen, that

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Speaker 2: they concluded that three point four million people were victims

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Speaker 2: to females than males, but it does happen to males too,

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Speaker 2: But sixty seven percent of them that did report it

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Speaker 2: or physically harmed. So that's this is a This is

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Speaker 2: a serious issue, and you could have like different situations

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Speaker 2: of it, like with Tyler Swift, she doesn't know who

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Speaker 2: my friend Amy Harwick, who was murdered by an ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's really it could go either way, but

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Speaker 2: it's still it happens. It's happened a few times with

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Speaker 2: and even killed in some circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're saying that this guy had been seen

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Speaker 3: and I was thinking, you know, she is a woman

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Speaker 3: Because from personal experience I've had myself and with my friends,

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Speaker 3: I know that it's really hard to get restraining orders

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people with the resources of Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: She has an entire security team at all times, and

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Speaker 2: it's so scary that well, part of the problem is

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Speaker 2: it's scary for anyone around her, even the security team

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Speaker 2: middle of it. It's just it's it's really unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So now they're trying to introduce this new legislation

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Speaker 3: called the twenty first Century Anti Stalking Bill, So this

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Speaker 3: And this could help victims go directly to the court

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Speaker 3: to try to handle it instead of people getting arrested

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Speaker 3: to see this go through. And it's definitely a really

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Speaker 3: by arresting them and letting them go is just not

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Speaker 2: You know. It's thoughts. Over fifty percent of women who

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Speaker 2: stalked by their intimate partner before they were killed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It's just completely unacceptable. Yeah, and something we are going

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Speaker 2: to really push for after We just covered Amy's story

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Speaker 2: this week in the gross Room. But she had two

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Speaker 2: restraining orders against her murderer and it didn't really matter,

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Speaker 2: and one of them expired. Why do these things expire ever?

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is that when she when she

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Speaker 3: And killed her only a few weeks later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like such a crazy story. But they

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Speaker 2: they really just need to keep it. How about you

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Speaker 2: away rather than it rather than it expiring, you know

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Speaker 2: it just why would it ever expire? If a person

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Speaker 2: then why would it ever expire?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And not that a piece of paper is really

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Speaker 3: going to stop anybody anyway, but at least in the

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Speaker 3: before and he kept harassing her after their run in

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Speaker 3: seems to matter anyway, but it's just such a flawed

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Speaker 3: system and we have to work on this. It is

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Speaker 2: Well, also, if she had still had their restraining order

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Speaker 2: when they saw each other at that awards dinner, he

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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't legally have been able to stay there. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: and that's where it started. But yes, the harassing afterwards

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Speaker 2: for weeks would not have not that he wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: done it, but some I mean, look, he did get

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Speaker 2: him away, so it did something back then when it

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Speaker 2: was put into place. So I don't know if they work.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe there's no proof that they work, or there

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Speaker 2: is proof that they work, because some people maybe just

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Speaker 2: that piece of paper in the wall and getting in

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Speaker 2: trouble and having a record would would deter some people.

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Speaker 2: But other people, like this guy that's harassing Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: that guy's living for that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So onto this next story, General Hospital star

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Speaker 3: Tyler Christopher has died from kind of an unusual cause

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Speaker 3: He was fifty, so that's very young to die. Insane

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, old ladies love their stories, so I'm

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Speaker 2: It just seems even if you're human though, Like if

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Speaker 2: If you've ever seen one of those truck, those trucks

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Speaker 2: I mean, they sell this bathtub that that you put

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Speaker 2: within the bathtub for babies that it's almost impossible. It's

436
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: impossible even if they were left alone, if you ran

437
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Speaker 2: out of the room to like go grab them a

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Speaker 2: diaper or something. I don't I don't know the situation

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Speaker 2: of how they how the baby was and how the

440
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Speaker 2: baby drowned, but it sucks. I hate I hate hearing

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Speaker 2: any stories about stuff like that that just didn't need

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Speaker 2: to happen, you know. Yeah, And the next story we

443
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 2: have too is also a totally preventable death with a

444
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Speaker 2: young child. So a baby, an eleven month old baby,

445
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Speaker 2: was sleeping in his crib and this totally freak steam

446
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: explosion came out of a faulty radiator, which gave him

447
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Speaker 2: critical burns, and he was pronounced dead at the hospital

448
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Speaker 2: shortly afterward. I know, I didn't see, like I like,

449
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: this is the great thing about this podcast, that we

450
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Speaker 2: could talk about all these different freak accidents that happened

451
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Speaker 2: that I didn't even realize that that was that that

452
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Speaker 2: was a possibility i'd really had I hadn't.

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Speaker 3: We had an.

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Speaker 2: Apartment once, right that had radiators, But did you know

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Speaker 2: that while we were living there, I never knew that

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Speaker 2: was the thing. That's the only time we ever lived

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Speaker 2: with them. So I don't know that, or maybe we're

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Speaker 2: just idiots and that's sectotal common knowledge. Just having your

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Speaker 2: kid in a room with a radiator and knowing that

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Speaker 2: it could explode a bunch of hot, burning steam and

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Speaker 2: kill them. I just I think that's that really needs

462
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Speaker 2: to be public education, because that is just so scary,

463
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Speaker 2: and he just got such bad steam burns that he

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Speaker 2: was brought to the hospital and pronounced dead. You could

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Speaker 2: dive acutely from injuries like that if the burns are

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Speaker 2: severe enough, because you have to remember that your skin

467
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: is your largest organ and it's responsible from protecting you

468
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Speaker 2: from the outside world. So really long term burns are

469
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Speaker 2: an issue because you could get infections because you don't

470
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Speaker 2: have that barrier anymore, which is really which is really

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Speaker 2: the biggest cause of death in people that have burns.

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Speaker 2: But you also, you know, your skin regulates your body temperature,

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Speaker 2: and that's really important to keep homostasius. We were talking

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00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: about that last week when we're talking about being too

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Speaker 2: cold or too hot, and when you don't have that

476
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Speaker 2: barrier to protect you, even just going outside or something

477
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: can cause your organs to shut down. It's sad. So

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Speaker 2: I feel so terrible. And these people it seems like

479
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Speaker 2: they were renting. It seems like this happened in twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen in New York to two kids that died in

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Speaker 2: this way. It's just it's so terrible when there's an

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Speaker 2: accidental death and the mom, I guess the mom was

483
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Speaker 2: like in the other room feeding your kid. It was

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Speaker 2: like six o'clock in the morning, so there was nothing

485
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Speaker 2: out of the ordinary to have one baby sleeping and

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Speaker 2: have the mom in the room with the other baby.

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Speaker 3: It was It's every like. This category is called freak

488
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Speaker 3: accidents for a reason, but there are some this is

489
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Speaker 3: pure freak accident. Even inspections that have been done on

490
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Speaker 3: the building before found no issues with the system. It

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Speaker 3: was a total fluke in the system. So it's really

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Speaker 3: said that we have to hear about it in this way,

493
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Speaker 3: but now at least that we know things like this

494
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: could happen, we could take the proper steps to check

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Speaker 3: our own systems.

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Speaker 2: Thankstink Bomb. Okay, well you get us started with violent crime.

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Speaker 2: We have two.

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Speaker 3: Pretty wild YouTube stories today, so we'll get into this

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00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: first one Levittown, Pennsylvania. Ironic enough, because we were just

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Speaker 3: having a conversation about Oh, I'm like, why.

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Speaker 2: Did that come up two times within the past twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, out of Levittown, Pennsylvania, a man has been accused

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Speaker 3: of beheading his father. Well you think that's bad, wait

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Speaker 3: till you hear this. He posted a fourteen minute long

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Speaker 3: video on YouTube of him holding the head and reading

528
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Speaker 3: a script about inflicting violence on government officials, calling his father,

529
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Speaker 3: who was a government employee, a trader. So this thirty

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Speaker 3: two year old killers charged with first degree murder, abuse

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Speaker 3: civil corpse. Hours after the killing, he was caught armed

532
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Speaker 3: one hundred miles away. He had jumped over the fence

533
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Speaker 3: at a National Guard facility, So who knows what was

534
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: gonna go down there if they didn't catch him immediately, right,

535
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: if he was going on conspiracy theory rampage. But it's

536
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: really nuts. So when they when the dad's mother or

537
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: wife had gotten home from work around seven o'clock, she

538
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: found her husband beheaded in their bathroom. The police came

539
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: three hours later. This video gets uploaded to YouTube and

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00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: was live for five whole hours before it got flagged

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Speaker 3: and taken down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and YouTube put out a statement that said that

543
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Speaker 2: the video was removed for violating graphic violence and they

544
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: deleted his account or something. And this is this is

545
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Speaker 2: kind of going to be the theme of today's episode

546
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: of how social media is really fucked up and they're

547
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: only selectively can censoring things, because how did they not

548
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Speaker 2: pick this up for five whole hours? It's just completely unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're defending it that they have all this AI

550
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Speaker 3: going on, but obviously it isn't trained enough. So that's

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Speaker 3: where the humans kind of come in and intervene, right,

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Speaker 3: But as we know with our accounts, that's not always

553
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: the case because you will just try to be spreading

554
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: awareness about some disease and natural disease and telling people

555
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: what to do like breast cancer, and then we get

556
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: flagged as spreading sexual content or graphic violence when we're

557
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: just simply trying to I just got one.

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Speaker 2: So on Monday when I did my mystery diagnosis, it

559
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: was for fouled issure device, which is a implantable coil

560
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: that was supposed to prevent birth control and now it's

561
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: off the market because it caused so many people problems.

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Speaker 2: I posted on Instagram and right away, as soon as

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Speaker 2: I posted, I even took a screenshot of it, because

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00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: now I screenshot all the evidence. It said, this post

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: may go against our community guidelines. Please reconsider taking it down,

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Speaker 2: and we're not going to show people that are not

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Speaker 2: your f followers. And it said nothing. It just said nothing.

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00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: It just was like public service announcement, like, hey, all

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Speaker 2: these women have this. Lots of women had to get

570
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Speaker 2: hysterectomies for this, some people still have it, and these

571
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Speaker 2: are the problems that we see in the lab with it.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know how that violates community guidelines.

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Speaker 2: But they have the ability to pick something up to

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Speaker 2: say like we think this does so if a person's

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Speaker 2: holding a human head I don't understand how that can't

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Speaker 2: get picked up with the AI technology that they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not clear to me if it got

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Speaker 3: taken down because their computers finally detected after five hours

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Speaker 3: that it was up, or if somebody called in and

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Speaker 3: reported it and that's why it got taken down immediately,

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Speaker 3: which I'm thinking it's the latter, because this episode goes

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Speaker 3: up on YouTube. Both of our episodes go up on

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Speaker 3: YouTube twice a week. It is such a pain to

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Speaker 3: get them uploaded. I'm sure you guys noticed they come

585
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Speaker 3: up a couple hours after the audio comes up because

586
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Speaker 3: the processing time is forever, so in that process they're

587
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Speaker 3: checking stuff too, so they could take stuff down immediately.

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Speaker 3: And I just can't believe this fell through the cracks.

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Speaker 3: You know, our posts are so regularly flagged for stuff

590
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Speaker 3: that's just totally ridiculous, and there's no human checking it

591
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: on our end. But anyway, YouTube's obviously getting criticized for

592
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Speaker 3: this heavily, right because it was up for five hours,

593
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Speaker 3: and then even though they took it down for violating

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Speaker 3: community guidelines, not it being something totally illegal, right, it

595
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: ended up getting of course screen recorded, screenshotted, and it's

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Speaker 3: on Twitter now called x whatever and reddish did.

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Speaker 2: You say it?

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Speaker 3: It's been like I've I'm sure in the deepest darkest

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Speaker 3: holes of Reddit I could find it somewhere, but it

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Speaker 3: has been scrubbed from x as of right now. So

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Speaker 3: I'm very interested about this because then it lines up.

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Speaker 3: Do you have anything more to say about this story,

603
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Speaker 3: because I'm going to go into the next one so

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Speaker 3: further or more. Involving YouTube, a twenty eight year old

605
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Speaker 3: aspiring influencer, also from our area this is steric, yeah exactly,

606
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: has been charged with four felony counts of aggravated cruelty

607
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Speaker 3: to animals because she was torturing animals on.

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Speaker 2: YouTube for likes.

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Speaker 3: So these videos were going on for a long time,

610
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Speaker 3: posting videos killing or torturing animals for a year, for

611
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Speaker 3: a year, and it wasn't until Peta reported this to

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Speaker 3: YouTube or not even YouTube to the police department that

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Speaker 3: these got taken down.

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Speaker 2: She was abusing and killing animals on YouTube for a

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Speaker 2: year and the only reason that they got taken down

616
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Speaker 2: is because Peta came across it, Like, how is that

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Speaker 2: even possible? And the biggest reason that I want to

618
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: bring this case up to you guys today is because

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Speaker 2: there's been studies done that show that people that are

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Speaker 2: cruel to animals, especially younger people, often it's associated with

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Speaker 2: antisocial personality disorder, which is which is a personality disorder

622
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Speaker 2: in which people they don't think that the law applies

623
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Speaker 2: to them. They're commonly they can be criminals, they have

624
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: problems with violence, impulsivity, drugs, alcohol. Not every person that

625
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: has anti social personality disorder has this because maybe I

626
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: have that note you definitely have. But yeah, it's just

627
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: like there's no there's no remorse for people's feelings when

628
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: you're doing something really bad. And it's when it's commonly

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Speaker 2: seen in people who abuse animals, and that has there's

630
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Speaker 2: been history of certain serial killers had had a history

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Speaker 2: as a child of abusing animals, and it's it's something

632
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Speaker 2: that needs to be taken because it's even more serious

633
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Speaker 2: than what it is on the surface.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, I mean, it's just it's scary to know

635
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Speaker 3: that these videos were going up at all, not hitting

636
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Speaker 3: the AI detection at all, and then live there for

637
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: a year and we don't know if I'm sure some

638
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: people had to be reporting them right, because there's no

639
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: way these were up for this long and not a

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Speaker 3: single person they had lots of comments and activity going on.

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Speaker 2: I don't ye say so, Like I want to watch

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Speaker 2: the video of the guy carrying around the dad's head

643
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Speaker 2: on YouTube, but I have no interest in seeing these videos, Like,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't want to see any any human animal,

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Speaker 2: anything being tortured and killed on like that violently. I

646
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: just I don't like that. But yeah, after effects of

647
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: the guy holding his dad's head and be interested in seeing.

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Speaker 3: Instagram, if you have good enough technology to block any

649
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: monetized posts we try to do as influencers, then you

650
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: could certainly take down videos of people holding beheaded people

651
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Speaker 3: or animal abuse of this.

652
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: This is just this is just a YouTube problem. We'll

653
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: talk about meta later in the show.

654
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure everybody knows our gripe with mister zuckerword.

655
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh god, did you see his new dorky haircut.

656
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 3: I don't even want to look his face pisses me off, So.

657
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it pisses me off to Okay, So this next

658
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: story is insane. This mom brings her a three year

659
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: old child to the hospital because his foot is black.

660
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: Okay, So a mother kept her three year old son

661
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: in a home without heat until his foot turned black

662
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 3: from frostbite, so they noticed that. The mother has said

663
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: that she noticed a couple of days before the hospital incident,

664
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: she noticed the baby's foot was turning different color, or

665
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: the toddler's foot was turning a different color, but they

666
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: didn't do anything about it until her foot started hurting

667
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: and she wanted to go to the hospital for herself,

668
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: and then when they brought the baby there, like what

669
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: theF is going on? So the child underwent surgery same day,

670
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: removed damage tissue, but he might have to have the

671
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: leg amputated below the knee because of how severe the

672
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: frostbite was. So how does frostbite work exactly?

673
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: So if it was severe enough that it was black,

674
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: that means it was no and dead and there's really

675
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: no coming back from that. So they do a surgery

676
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: called a debreatment. They take all the dead tissue off

677
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: and if there's no infection or anything, and that all

678
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: heals well and there's no other damage to the vessels

679
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: or the tissues because of the frost bite, then if

680
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: it was just his foot, then he could live with

681
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: the amputated stump of what's left over. But there is

682
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: a possibility that they would go all the way to

683
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: below the knee to remove the whole leg if there

684
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: was a severe infection associated with that, Because you have

685
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: to remember, once you get surgery and the frostbite kills

686
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: the nerves, that kills the blood vessels there, that there's

687
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: a potential for more infection to happen there and it

688
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: could just continue to be a problem for this kid

689
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: and not heal well, and they'll have to do an amputation.

690
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I mean he like, listen, the damage has already done.

691
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: He already is missing at least part of his foot,

692
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: So he's already had an amputation. They're just saying he

693
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: might get a bigger one.

694
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she's been arrested, so good, all right. Next,

695
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: we have new DNA evidence discovered in the Scott Peterson case.

696
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: So last week we gave a whole summary of this case.

697
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: We had this awesome external exam with Alice in Trizel

698
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: where she kind of explained how the Innocence Project falls

699
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: into all of this. But now there's been new new

700
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: evidence has come to light about an orange van spotted

701
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: near the Peterson's house due to a suspected burglary in

702
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: the neighborhood.

703
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that so that was always a thing. This like that.

704
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that that is really new evidence that

705
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: the house was robbed. I think it was directly across

706
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: the street. Actually. Yeah, but apparently this orange van was spotted.

707
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: But now they're saying that there's like cloth from a

708
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: mattress that has human blood on it. Potentially that was

709
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: in the van. That was someone burned it, right, Yeah.

710
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: So the van was found burned and then they pulled

711
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: this mattress from it and they said was human blood

712
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: on it. So they want to test this DNA to

713
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: see if it was connected to the case at all.

714
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: That this this is kind of interesting. Actually, I'm just

715
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm just really I'm curious. I'm just curious. I just

716
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: want to hear it.

717
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm open to seeing the la Innocence Project argue his

718
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: innocence because I know he's been convicted, but there's always

719
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: the possibility that it could go the other way. What

720
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: threw me off with this was apparently his family said

721
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: the burglars were the one that placed her in the bay,

722
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: knowing his fishing trip was his only alibi. So I'm like,

723
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: how involved was this burglary if it was across the street,

724
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: and then they let's say this burglary, burglary happened across

725
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: the street. God, we know this word is so hard

726
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: for both I won't even try.

727
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: I won't even try to say it. You guys will

728
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: make fun of me the rest of my life for this.

729
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: This robbery happened across the street. And there's theories that

730
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: because lee See Peterson was this feisty little woman, that

731
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: she slid happening and got involved and was kidnapped as

732
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: part of that. So if that is the case, then

733
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: why how did they even know that her husband was

734
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: fishing there and planting her body there to set him up.

735
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: But that's getting a little too involved for my liking.

736
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: I think, well, unless they knew them, Unless they knew them,

737
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: but why wouldn't they be breaking into their house, not

738
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: the house across the street.

739
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: Listen, I think with all the circumstantial evidence, it's it's

740
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: almost certain. But I just I'm just curious that I

741
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: also want to know why if the orange van was

742
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: spotted and they knew that there was a mattress in there, why,

743
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: like why today are we going to test it for

744
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: blood or DNA? Like why wasn't this done.

745
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of suggestion that the police department

746
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: just zoned in on him and took no other leads.

747
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: So maybe it was known the whole time, but they

748
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: didn't correctly process that evidence and didn't do what they

749
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: were supposed to do. So now they have enough moving

750
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: for it. I don't know how it works, but you

751
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: know what I'd.

752
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: Be interested in. Actually, it's because when you see pictures

753
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: of Scott Peterson, like back in when they when they

754
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: were younger, he was really really handsome guy. Yeah, and

755
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: she's she was beautiful. They were just like a very

756
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: good looking couple. But then when you hear him talk,

757
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: he's off, like there's something weird about his personality, Like

758
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't have emotions when he talks, and he's very flat.

759
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that was a thing if you

760
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: interviewed Lacey's mom and asked her, like, was he always

761
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: like that? Because he seems like there's like there's no

762
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: like life behind his eyes and obviously like the wife

763
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: and his unborn child are dead now, which he probably

764
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: did right, so I could I see that. But I'm

765
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: just saying, do you think he You wouldn't argue with

766
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: me that he has kind of a weird personality.

767
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: Right, Well, here's the thing. I'm open to seeing what

768
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: the l Innocent's Project hasts to say and trying to

769
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: prove this case otherwise. But we can't really forget that

770
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: when he got arrested, he was trying to flee and

771
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: dyed his hair and had a bunch of money in

772
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 3: driver's licenses on him.

773
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: So I think maybe he was like, this kind of

774
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: doesn't look good. I gotta get out of cure. I

775
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. Definitely not sticking up for him.

776
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: I think just the whole you know, we could talk

777
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: about this case forever, but yeah, like I do want

778
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: to know, though, I want to know.

779
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: I agree that him having an affair doesn't mean he

780
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: killed his wife, but I do find it mighty suspicious

781
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: he told the mistress that the wife.

782
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: Was dead, just saying yeah. But I wonder because I

783
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: had a friend once. I don't even know if I

784
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: ever told you this story, but I had a friend

785
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: once that was dating some guy. It was almost like

786
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: the same Amber Fry situation. She was dating this guy

787
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: for a couple months, and she had kids, so she

788
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: just never she never really wanted him to come sleep

789
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: at her house because it wasn't their dad, and she

790
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: just saw him on the weekends because she worked all

791
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: the time, and she really didn't think anything of it

792
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: that he wasn't like staying at her house and he

793
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: would tell her that he was divorced and all this stuff.

794
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: And then when we did our investigation, we found out

795
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 2: that he was like full on married and living at

796
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: the house with the wife. And my friend had no

797
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: idea that that was happening at all. And of course

798
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: once she found out, she was just like, dude, you

799
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: suck whatever broke up, but not to I mean, it's

800
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: not obviously it's worse to say that the person died,

801
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: but when you're trying to do something and get what

802
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: you want, you're just gonna say whatever and just saying

803
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: you're divorced when you're like a married man at the house.

804
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: She had gotten the guy's phone number and called the house.

805
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: This was back in the day when we had regular

806
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: house phones, and it was like him and his wife

807
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: had the answering machine message for the house. Like that

808
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: to me is a little that's like sick too, just

809
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, I think you're like living another life,

810
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

811
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have a very bizarre personality if

812
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: you're just full on. I mean, people have affairs all

813
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: the time, but it's a different level of affair if

814
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: you're full on lying about having an entire family and

815
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: being married.

816
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: You know what the most cause I was just listening

817
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: to I guess it was Nancy Grace or something talking

818
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: about the Scott Peterson case, and one of the women

819
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: on her show was saying this, which I completely forgot,

820
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: And this, to me is the most the most circumstantial evidence.

821
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: When he was at some search party looking for her

822
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: and like a visual thing, he called Amber Fry and

823
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: said that he was like in Paris on a on

824
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: a work trip. Yeah, And that to me was like

825
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: the key that I don't care how you explain anything,

826
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: because he could have said my wife's dead because he

827
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: wanted to just like fox some chick, right, like that's whatever.

828
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: But the fact that after she was missing, if someone

829
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: else really did do it, that he was still trying

830
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: to get the other girl, It's just completely like what

831
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: other excuse you have for that?

832
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: He could have fallen blown her off and then it

833
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: would have been there. But like you keep going with

834
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: the lie and until one of her coworkers had to

835
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: be like, this guy you brought to the work party

836
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: is all over the news for killing his wife. It's

837
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: just like coming.

838
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: So this is another thing that I think is weird. Right,

839
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: And obviously this is before the Internet and stuff, so

840
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: things are definitely changed. But she he went, he was

841
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: a married man that had a pregnant wife at home,

842
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: and he went and got dressed up and went to

843
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: a woman's Christmas party and was like her boyfriend. Yeah,

844
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: Like it's not right. It was like it was like

845
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: there was no hidden there was nothing hidden about it.

846
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: It was it was it was really and and it

847
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: that that's what makes me think like something's not right,

848
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: Like normal people don't act.

849
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean we again, we could talk about

850
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: this for hours, so we'll move on, all right, move

851
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: on to this. Okay, a man who accused his twin

852
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: brother of being a rapist has now himself been sentenced

853
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: to one hundred and forty years in prison.

854
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: How okay, So I actually never I don't know why,

855
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: I just never thought about this, right, But identical twins

856
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: have the same DNA. Yeah, So like let's say, for example,

857
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: with this whole Like Brian Coburger case came up and

858
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: they're getting DNA, Like it would be the same if

859
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: he had a twin brother. And I guess this guy

860
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: the same thing. He committed a crime and tried to

861
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: blame it on his brother.

862
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is a popular theme in movies.

863
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: I feel I don't often hear about them transpiring in

864
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: real life, but clearly they got it from somewhere.

865
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: It's it's just it's really it's really crazy from an

866
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: investigative standpoint, and they were able to find some stuff

867
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: that linked the one brother to it, like what was it,

868
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: suspicious messages or something, or emails or something.

869
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I believe what kicked this off was there

870
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: was unsolved rape kits from the mid nineties and they

871
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: were run through genealogy technology, which we've most popularly seen

872
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: in the case of the Golden State Killer, where we're

873
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: seeing more and more often that cold cases are being

874
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: solved through the use of this genie. I can't say

875
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: this word genial genealogy technology super tongued.

876
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: I notice I'm not correcting you because I don't. I can't.

877
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: It's like we all we have the same us stutters whatever.

878
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: We can't say. It's like we both can't say it.

879
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and I can't. I can't say this again.

880
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: There's the technology that's similar to twenty three and ME

881
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: that people submit their own DNA, and now they're solving

882
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: cases by connecting the dots between people in DNA from

883
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: these old rape kits and old murder cases. So I

884
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: believe that's how they got to this guy, Kevin and

885
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: his twin brother. So this was the crimes occurred in

886
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: the mid nineties, and they linked them up to them,

887
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 3: the twins in twenty nineteen, so it looks like they

888
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: were questioning both of them, but unknowingly the brother, Kevin,

889
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: admitted to doing these crimes. And there ended up being

890
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: another molestation case of his girlfriend's twelve year old daughter

891
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: thrown in there too that they didn't even know about

892
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: going in.

893
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, and let's just explain really quick why identical

894
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: twins have the same DNA. So the difference between identical

895
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: and fraternal twins. So identical twins is like one sperm

896
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: from the and one egg from the mom come together

897
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: and so that's one set of DNA and then that

898
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: fertilized egg or embryo splits in half, so it's the

899
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 2: same fertilized egg that has split in half. So that's

900
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: how you get the same exact DNA, whereas with fraternal twins,

901
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: it's two separate sperms and two separate eggs, which is

902
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: why if you do like IVF or something, they'll be

903
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: an increase of There could be an increase of fraternal

904
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: twins because they implant multiple eggs or multiple embryos into

905
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: a uterus in order to have the IVF process, So

906
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: that would be Fraternal twins are basically just like any

907
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: other brother and sister. They're just born at the same time,

908
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: whereas identical twins are essentially the same exact person, just

909
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: a copy of that person, which is cool and creepy

910
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: at the same time.

911
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's been charged with one hundred and forty

912
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: years till Yeah, one hundred and forty years. So that's

913
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: what we like to see in rape cases because often

914
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 3: they get these bullshit sentences of five years or something

915
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: for doing something absolutely horrible and ruining another person's life.

916
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: So at least this guy's life is ruined now because

917
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: he's getting the justice he deserves, all.

918
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: Right, talking about getting justice you deserve when your husband

919
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: you're married for what fifty what was it, fifty two years,

920
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, your husband's ex girlfriend

921
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: from sixty years ago sends him a postcard. What a bitch?

922
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: You gotta kill that dude. So first I thought that,

923
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: So let me get into this versault on. A couple

924
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: had been married for fifty years and one day a

925
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: postcard arrives in the mail and it's from her husband

926
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: of fifty years ex flame from sixty years ago. So

927
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: these people are in their seventies. She gets so pissed

928
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: and uh smothers him, tries to smother him, and then

929
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: peas on him. How ridiculous is this? But when I

930
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: first read the head.

931
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: Like you're just gonna pee on somebody?

932
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the weirdest.

933
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: Thing, especially for like for a woman like you actually

934
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: have to like squat over a person and pee on them.

935
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: It's not like you could just aim it at them, right.

936
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: No, So when I first read this, I thought that

937
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: she was cleaning and found a sixty year old postcard

938
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: and then tried to kill him over like an old

939
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: piece of male But that's not what happened.

940
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: That would not be rational either, Like neither way.

941
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: Is rational at all, because you can't you know that

942
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: that the ex flame might have been, like I don't

943
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: know where he is. Maybe he's single, even though you

944
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: could find anybody on the internet these days, but you

945
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: don't know she's old. People don't know that he was

946
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: shooting or shot and it went really bad. Well, it

947
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: actually might work out because now maybe the wife will

948
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: go to jail and now he could be with the

949
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: with the lady that sent the post. I think it's

950
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: a nice romantic story that's really good thinking, the really

951
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: romantic story of how to get your love interest, like

952
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: put in jail for attempted murder so you could spend

953
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: Valentine's stay together.

954
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a great idea. All right, this

955
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: so last week we talked about this first nitrogen execution

956
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: that was going to be happening, and it happened like

957
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: five minutes after we stopped recording that day, which is

958
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: as always right. So there were people that witnessed this

959
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: and said that it was the most horrible thing that

960
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: they ever witnessed in their life. They said that it

961
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: took almost twenty two minutes from beginning to end for

962
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: him to actually die, and the guy was like flailing

963
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: on the gurney and grabbing on the restraints and moaning

964
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: and making noises, and it seemed like it was a

965
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: very torturous death. So, like I said, we need to

966
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: bring back the firing squad because it's just like dirty

967
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: and quick and it gets the job done. But I mean,

968
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: at the same time, I don't feel bad because he

969
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: killed an innocent woman that was a mother to two

970
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: kids and who had to grow up without their mom.

971
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: And on top of that, do you have the whole

972
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: story about what happened? Like why do you know the

973
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: whole story as to why I do if you want

974
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: me to all tee it. Yeah. So it was like

975
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: a pastor and his wife and they were married and

976
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: they had two kids, and then the pastor started freaking

977
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: out because he didn't have any money, and he talked

978
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: to somebody about hiring someone to kill his wife. And

979
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: then that person had talked who found two people that

980
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 2: were going to kill the woman for one thousand dollars each,

981
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: by the way, and so this guy, the one guy

982
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: already got put to death, and this guy was on

983
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: death row for all this time, and then the guy

984
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: who arranged it got life in prison, while the husband

985
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: that brought the idea up, he went like he it

986
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: seems like he went to confession and like confessed stuff

987
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: to his church and his family and then he killed himself.

988
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: So these children grew up two kids that had a

989
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: mom and dad now grew up with no parents or

990
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't know who raised them, right, But that's that's terrible.

991
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: That's just terrible. And apparently the mom was like a

992
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: loving mom, she was a great mom and stuff so

993
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: was terrible. So like, boohoo, don't kill people. I don't

994
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: know what to tell you, Like maybe like looking at

995
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: an execution like this will make you think twice before

996
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: doing that because you don't want that to happen to you,

997
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: and maybe you won't do something like that.

998
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: I just I have little sympathy. I'm sorry, Yeah, I

999
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: mean I agree with you with that. I just feel

1000
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: like this seems like a waste of time. And last week,

1001
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 3: when we had posted the episode in the gross room,

1002
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 3: a couple of members brought up with like, why aren't

1003
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: they using fetanyl or something that's seemingly taking innocent people

1004
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: out super quick? So I don't know what the deal

1005
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: is but yeah, it's it's weird to mean, watch somebody

1006
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: flail around for twenty two minutes. It's like just getting

1007
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: over it.

1008
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's it's cool, and I understand what

1009
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: they're doing because they don't. Shooting someone in the head

1010
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: is extremely graphic, but it's not. It's it's nothing that

1011
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: prolongs the death. And it's just like if you're killing

1012
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: somebody and anyway you wrap it up, it's like if

1013
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: you if you put a pink bow on a turd,

1014
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: it's still a turd, right, Like, it's the same.

1015
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: Can't they give them cyanide pills or something like?

1016
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: There has to be something faster.

1017
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: I don't.

1018
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's necessarily a quick death either,

1019
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: you don't want there's I'm telling you, it's the it's

1020
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: the it's the gun to the head is the best

1021
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: way to go. But I don't, I mean, I do.

1022
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: I don't think that we need to torture people for

1023
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: their crimes or whatever. But at the same time, I'm

1024
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: having a hard time that all these articles are written

1025
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: like boohoo for this guy. When these kids grew up

1026
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: without the mom and the mom lost their life, Like

1027
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: it's like, why are we always on the side of

1028
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: a criminal instead of being thinking about the victims that

1029
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: are getting her in these situations. I don't understand that.

1030
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: This next story is incredibly wild. So a thirty nine

1031
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: year old man was living with a woman and her

1032
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: twelve year old daughter, kind of unclear if they were dating,

1033
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: like why was he living there if they were in

1034
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: a relationship. But the mom picked him up after he

1035
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: got into a bar fight, brought him home, and then

1036
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: she went to bed and was like, I don't want

1037
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 3: to deal with you. She later woke up and discovered

1038
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: that he was sexually assaulting her twelve year old daughter,

1039
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: so she called the police and when they arrived, he

1040
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: was holding a gun to his head. She was holding

1041
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: a gun to his head, which is pretty badass of

1042
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: her to be, like, you're not escaping this situation. Did

1043
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: you mention that this guy had HIV two? No, so

1044
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 3: he was HIV positive. Also a youth sports coach, really nice,

1045
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: and the daughter had said this was the sixth incident

1046
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: that she had had with him where he had sexually

1047
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: assaulted her, one of which was on her her twelfth birthday.

1048
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is just like, listen, I would have just

1049
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: shot the guy in the head. So I guess I

1050
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: applaud her for the restraint because I'm not sure that

1051
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: I would be able to walk on walk in on

1052
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: my child having that done to them and just be

1053
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: cool and be like I'm going to hold you at

1054
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: gunpoint until the police get here. I just I don't

1055
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: think that I would be able to restrain myself honestly.

1056
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe in the moment she was like,

1057
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll be prosecuted for this, even

1058
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: though personally I don't think people should be prosecuted if

1059
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: I think, I.

1060
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Think everybody would shake her Yeah, I think everyone would

1061
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: shake her hand and be like, good job, mom, exactly.

1062
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know how these people hold restraint when

1063
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: their child's victimized and they either a walk in on

1064
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: it or made aware of it. I just I feel

1065
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: like I'd black out and just what happens.

1066
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And I mean she definitely like held her

1067
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: impulses back and did the right thing, for sure, because

1068
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: that would have just been a whole, a whole other thing,

1069
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: and at least now they could really truly investigated and

1070
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: hopefully this guy will go to jail for the rest

1071
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: of his life. I think if you have an infectious disease,

1072
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: that is that you intentionally I guess they have to

1073
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: prove that he was intentionally trying.

1074
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't wearing a condom, so in my mind

1075
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: that should be intentional.

1076
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that he could get an

1077
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: extra trouble for that, hopefully.

1078
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolute pig human. So we'll go on to

1079
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: medical news. I can't believe this. The neural link has

1080
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: been inserted into a human patient, all.

1081
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Speaker 2: Right, So I you sit there and say, like, Okay,

1082
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: what idiot would let will get something inserted in their

1083
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: brain and like be on trial for this. But I

1084
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: kind of understand it, Like it was they were recruiting

1085
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: people that are quadriplegics, right, So if if you can't

1086
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: if that's something that's usually brought onto you, so you're

1087
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: born like an able body, and then and then all

1088
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: of a sudden you can't use your entire body, all

1089
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: your arms and legs, and you're bound to a wheelchair.

1090
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: Don't you think if you're in that situation that you

1091
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: might be just desperate for anything that might potentially help

1092
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: improve the quality of your life. I like, I honestly

1093
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: like if I was bound to a weird wheelchair, I

1094
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: would say to him, you can implant it in my

1095
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: brain if you think you could fix me.

1096
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't blame the patient at all for wanting to

1097
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: partake in this. I totally understand that. What I don't

1098
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: understand is what surgeon agreed to do this, what approval

1099
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: went into it. Because all of the monkey tests they

1100
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: had as of one to two years ago died after

1101
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: the implant. I haven't heard of a successful implant in

1102
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: the test chimps.

1103
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: I love all of the technology that's coming out, and

1104
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: it's not just medical technology, just any technology. It's all

1105
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: great for what they want to use it for. For example,

1106
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: like AI. They want to use it so you could

1107
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: take a picture with your phone and be able to

1108
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: tell if you have a lesion that looks like it

1109
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: needs to get buy upsed. Like, that's great. The problem

1110
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: is is that we don't live in a night world

1111
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: and people are evil. People are and you have to think,

1112
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: like with this great that could come from this technology.

1113
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: I mean the same could be said about the Internet, right,

1114
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: like all the great that comes from the Internet, think

1115
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: about all the horrible stuff that comes along with the Internet.

1116
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: It's like nobody is thinking about how this technology is

1117
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: going to be used by a criminal basically, and I

1118
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: just think, like, let's stay out of the inside of

1119
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: people's brains. I just think it's just probably for the best.

1120
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Speaker 3: So they're saying that this. First of all, we should

1121
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: have probably explained this at the beginning. But the neurallink,

1122
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: for everybody who's unfamiliar, is this coin size device that

1123
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: the plan is it's inserted into your brain. It learns

1124
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: how to read your brain signals and basically would enable

1125
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: you to do things on your phone, your computer, et

1126
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: cetera by just simply thinking. Right, So, they're planning on

1127
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: calling their first product telepathy, and he's quoted as saying,

1128
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: imagine if Steven haw could communicate faster than the speed

1129
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: typist or auctioneer. First of all, Stephen Hawking maybe shouldn't

1130
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: be the example right now because of all the epsteins. Furthermore,

1131
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: imagine that thing your thoughts like accidentally transcribed, if something

1132
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: went awry, or somebody hacking into your chip and controlling

1133
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: your own brain. It's very scary to think about.

1134
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: That will happen. It will happen. Yeah, Just it's like

1135
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: we're saying this, what is it February first, Like we're

1136
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: going to put that in writing right now because it

1137
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: will twenty twenty four, Like it will happen. And it

1138
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: just sucks because it sucks for people that are living

1139
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: in a situation where they could use this technology. But

1140
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: we just have to stop doing things that are going

1141
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: to give criminals this whole other way of victimizing people.

1142
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: It's just I don't like it. I don't like it.

1143
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm surprised.

1144
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: I'm surprised Elon's moving forward with this, considering he's been

1145
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: going against AI and saying he wants to stop the progression.

1146
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: But dude, you're developing something that could potentially be really dangerous.

1147
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. All right, this is this

1148
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: is a really interesting case. So there was between nineteen

1149
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: fifty nine and nineteen eighty five. They used to take

1150
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: they used to go into the pituitary gland of cadavers

1151
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: or it's a gland that's inside of your brain that

1152
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: regulates hormones. So they would go in so that's important

1153
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: to know that it's brain tissue. They would go into

1154
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: people that donated their body for you know, for research

1155
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: or whatever, for science, and they would take hormone out

1156
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: of the pituitary gland and they would inject it into kids,

1157
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: especially ones that were short stature. They would inject this

1158
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: human growth hormone and that would help them, because that's

1159
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: that's what happens if you have a problem with growing

1160
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: too fast or growing too slow, it's like because of

1161
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: a pituitary gland dysfunction. So now that's all synthetic, so

1162
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 2: it's not anything that we have to worry about right now.

1163
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,479
Speaker 2: But back in the day they did this, and now

1164
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: we know that we can't we can't really be taking

1165
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: brain tissue in because of the possibility of an infectious process,

1166
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: which is called CJD. It's a really bad disease and

1167
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: it's not I don't even know if you would consider

1168
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: it to be infectious, I guess because it's it's a

1169
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: weird thing. It's like not a bacteria, and it's not

1170
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: a virus. It's something called a preon, which it's a

1171
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: It causes these abnormal proteins in your brain and it

1172
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: causes your brain to actually get like holes in it,

1173
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: like like makes it look like a sponge that you've

1174
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: probably heard of. This like medical disease right, So these

1175
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: people were pop So one person popped up with CJD

1176
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: disease and it was linked to getting this brain tissue

1177
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: when they were a child. And now they when they

1178
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: were examining that patient, they found these other abnormal proteins

1179
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: that are seen in patients that have Alzheimer's. So now

1180
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: this study has shown that you might be able to

1181
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: contract Alzheimer's and so they're looking into that. But they

1182
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: also want to stress that as of right now, there's

1183
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: no evidence that you could contract that from another person.

1184
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: It's like strictly from getting brain tissue from a person

1185
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: that has something put into your body, which is the

1186
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: same as CJD. Like, so, I it's really interesting research

1187
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 2: actually though, So I thought that I would bring that

1188
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: to your attention because this is why you're not supposed

1189
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: to brain tissue, because it could spread that way. You're

1190
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: just not and most people don't. But like there's some

1191
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: cultures that do, and we just you shouldn't ever eat it.

1192
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: That's what we do an autopsy of a person that

1193
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: has CJD. It's not normal precautions. It's like an extra

1194
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: using a special hood that goes over the head when

1195
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: you're using the bones, the bones, all that sucks all

1196
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: of the dust from the from the bone and from

1197
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: the brain that's coming and aerosolizing. You really should have

1198
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: an entire set of different tools to do autopsies on

1199
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: CJD people that don't get used on other people or don't.

1200
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: It's it's just like a whole mess because it's there's

1201
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: a lot unknown about it and it's not as easy

1202
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: as killing a virus or a bacteria.

1203
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So this next story is TikTokers are

1204
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: using a common pain medication to stop their periods. So

1205
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: a recent viral TikTok claim that if you combine jello

1206
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: lemon juice and the ibuproof and you can delay or

1207
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: stop your period.

1208
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: So it's kind of interesting. I don't know where the

1209
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: jello and lemo lemon comes into it, but this is

1210
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: they do prescribe and sads, which are called non steroidal

1211
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: anti inflammatory drugs, and if you have if you have

1212
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: a lot of them, it acts like it decreases prostaglandin,

1213
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: which is what causes your uterus to cramp. So the

1214
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: more you get cramps, it's like when your uterus cramps,

1215
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: it's like pushing your period blood out right, And it's

1216
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: so the more you get cramps, the more bleeding you're

1217
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: going to seemingly have. So doctors and gynecologists have been

1218
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: prescribing ibuprofen forever because it kind of decreases the prostaglandins

1219
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: and then it causes less cramping, which then in turn

1220
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: causes less bleeding. But in order for that to be

1221
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: like very effective, it has to be a lot of

1222
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: ibuprofen a day. They're saying that you should take like

1223
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: six eight hundred milligrams three times a day. That's a lot.

1224
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: It's like a prescription strength ibuprofen, right, And so usually

1225
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: like the the limit is thirty two hundred milligrams a

1226
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: day in a prescription or it's like twelve hundred a

1227
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: day if you get it just at the drug store,

1228
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: if you want to go buy it. But so yes,

1229
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: in theory this works. Okay, this can work to It's

1230
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: not going to stop your period, but it'll decrease the bleeding.

1231
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: The problem is is that taking nsads, especially in high doses,

1232
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: is like that they could really really screw you up.

1233
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: They could give you ulcers in your stomach. I've had

1234
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: issues from taking them, like they can really really hurt you.

1235
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: They could cause bleeding issues, they could cause kidney damage.

1236
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: So it's not taking that much of a drug is

1237
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: something you really need to consult with your doctor about

1238
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: and not watch it on TikTok because you could really

1239
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: screw your body up.

1240
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm surprised to hear that the obgyns consulted for this

1241
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 3: article both agreed that the less cramping equals less bleeding,

1242
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: because I personally don't feel like I experienced that. If anything,

1243
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: I feel I experience the opposite.

1244
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, everything is dependent on you could have

1245
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: other reasons that you're bleeding more like it's just it's

1246
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: all dependent on woman to woman, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1247
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 2: Like I it's not like one hundred percent, like every

1248
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: single woman that you give that much ibuprofene with will

1249
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: bleed less.

1250
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: I was just shocked because I expected, you know, the

1251
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: article was like and doctors have thoughts. I was expected

1252
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: them to slam this, but everybody was like.

1253
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of true. Yeah, but they but they

1254
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: are slamming it. They're saying like, don't take you really

1255
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't take that much and sads without consulting your doctor.

1256
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: People that have like underlying health diseases and stuff can

1257
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: really get hurt. You just don't listen to some girl

1258
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: on TikTok And I don't even know what the jello

1259
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: and lemon juice have to do with anything. They didn't

1260
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: even seem to forget. They didn't even explain that in

1261
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: the in the article. But I just think that there's

1262
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 2: been a lot of TikTok trends with with what you

1263
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: should do with your health. There's one for a parasite cleanse,

1264
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: which is total bullshit, Like just if you have questions

1265
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: about that, Like, I don't think it's bad to ask

1266
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: your doctor about it, but I think eight hundred milligrams

1267
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: of ibuprofen a day, three times a day is a lot.

1268
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: I used to take one a day and it would

1269
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: really screw my stomach up when I have my really

1270
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: painful cramping days. Like at most I will take two

1271
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: or three depending on how severe. Eight hundreds yeah, because

1272
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: you can take them every six hours. Oh, I don't know. Well,

1273
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: I mean I do hope you consulted your doctor about that.

1274
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to be taking them that much and

1275
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 3: I stretch it as much as possible. But you and

1276
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: I genetically have the same issue and know how horrible.

1277
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 3: So truth, Okay, onto America's oldest living person.

1278
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: So this is a this is a cool story. I

1279
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: like having good stories.

1280
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. So this woman, Edith of California, will be turning

1281
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen and be celebrated with a drive

1282
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 3: by parade on February fourth. All I want to say

1283
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: is that they were planning Betty White's birthday too, and

1284
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 3: she died two weeks before her.

1285
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: I was going to say that. When I was writing

1286
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: that up, I was just like, oh, damn, that's like,

1287
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: that's like in a week. Should they be waiting that

1288
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: long when when you're one hundred and sixteen years old? No,

1289
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: it's cool. She was born in ninety Could you imagine

1290
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: she was born in nineteen oh eight and she is

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: still alive today, Like, what is the transition that you've

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01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,959
Speaker 2: gone through? I can't even imagine.

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking about it. And she was like my

1294
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 3: age during the depression. That's kind of right crazy.

1295
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, And the craziest part is that there

1296
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: is another woman that's so this woman we're talking about

1297
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: right now is the second oldest person that lives in

1298
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: the world. But there's one lady that's even older than

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: her at a striking actually is one hundred and sixteen,

1300
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: so she's like a couple months older than her out

1301
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: of Spain. Out of Spain, and she is the oldest

1302
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: woman in the world. But she she said, someone asked her,

1303
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: like why, why how she stayed alive so long as

1304
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: she She said that she was quote God's chosen one.

1305
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny.

1306
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 3: Cute. Yeah, she's the oldest of seven siblings and she

1307
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: outlived all of them. Oh my god, which is so

1308
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: it's so nuts, but it's super cool. I'm glad they're

1309
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: honoring her. So cute.

1310
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should get a parade.

1311
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: Dude.

1312
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixteen is ridiculous if you think about that,

1313
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: Like people that are eighty years old right now, just

1314
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: thinking about them living like all this time, it's just

1315
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: craz Like another thirty six years, it's just like insane, right.

1316
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And I always think about you know, Iris Atfell,

1317
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: she's that cool. Yeah, I love glasses. She she's one

1318
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: hundred and two right now. And I always think it's

1319
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: so cool when they give her like little balloons that

1320
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: say how old she is, and that's cool, and she's

1321
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 3: always so stylish.

1322
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: She is like, I hope when I get older that

1323
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm like a cool old lady like that. Yeah, but

1324
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: like I want to be like that with white hair

1325
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: and just like huge glasses and lots of jewelry and stuff.

1326
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 2: She's so cute.

1327
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is really cute. All right.

1328
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: We have one story and other death news, which is

1329
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: this is going along with the whole theme of the

1330
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: social media situation that we've been talking about all day,

1331
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: but this lawmaker is suing Instagram because his son died

1332
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: by suicide. And the story surrounding this particular death is

1333
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: just so heartbreaking from a parent's perspective, thinking that this

1334
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: is this is not the first time this has happened,

1335
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: that this happens with other children too, and it's just

1336
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: it's just so sad. Do you want to talk about

1337
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: what happened to this lawmaker and his son.

1338
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. So this guy, Brandon Guffrey of South Carolina, his

1339
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 3: seventeen year old son Gevin, died by suicide after shooting

1340
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: himself in twenty twenty two. So the family was kind

1341
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 3: of searching for clues. They didn't see this coming at all.

1342
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: Two weeks after Avin's death, when his dad was going

1343
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 3: through his Instagram, they found a message with a laughing

1344
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: face and messages that said did I tell you your

1345
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: son begged for his life? So disgusting. So what happened

1346
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: is these scammers conned the Sun into thinking he was

1347
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: talking to a teenage girl and got him to send

1348
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: nude photos of himself over there, and then after that

1349
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: they basically harassed him, threatening to expose him, extorting him

1350
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 3: for money he only had. He sent them twenty five dollars.

1351
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 3: It was the only money he had, and they just

1352
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: kept asking for more and more and more until this

1353
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: kid reached his breaking point. So then after his death,

1354
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 3: they were sending horrible messages like the one I read above.

1355
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 3: They were messaging family members and anybody on his follower's

1356
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 3: list asking for money in exchange for these photos.

1357
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: It was horrible. I don't know, I mean, and they're

1358
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: saying that this happens like a lot of times, like

1359
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: these people are in other countries. I again, I don't

1360
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: understand how they can't get to the bar of this.

1361
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 2: But Gabe and I talk about this all the time

1362
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: because I stopped getting messages from my followers years ago.

1363
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 2: All of them, because I get some every once in

1364
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 2: a while. People tell me all the time they message

1365
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: me and I never get it, and they're able to

1366
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 2: stop certain things that they want to stop, but get

1367
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 2: I get porn bots all the time.

1368
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that, like on Mother Knows

1369
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: Death Instagram, we get I don't know, five to ten

1370
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: messages a day saying I'm horny in a group jet

1371
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 3: from bots. But anytime somebody tries to send us a

1372
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: regular message, it's put in a spam folder and everything,

1373
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 3: but not the porn one. So I'm like, thank you

1374
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: for wasting my time when I have people actually trying

1375
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: to send us really cool stories or tell us more

1376
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 3: information about something we talked about, or in your case,

1377
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 3: sending you cases of interesting stuff.

1378
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't really know exactly how. I don't

1379
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: know how these people are getting away with it, because

1380
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,839
Speaker 2: when you sign up for Instagram, isn't it like connected

1381
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: to Facebook and stuff that they could figure out who

1382
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: you are. You could just make fake email addresses and stuff.

1383
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had an.

1384
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: Instagram since I want to say, like two thousand and

1385
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: nine or twenty and ten, So I think the Facebook

1386
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 3: merge came after my account was created, So.

1387
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm okay, So can they connect with IP address?

1388
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 3: Then they certainly have a way of going through IP addresses,

1389
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: like that's not hard at all, but they don't care enough,

1390
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 3: like that's the thing.

1391
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I so I see this guy testifying yesterday,

1392
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: I can't I just can't stand this dude, Like he

1393
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: he he. I just really believe they had all these

1394
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: family members there that had issues that happened like this,

1395
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 2: and he had the balls to say that there was

1396
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: like no correlation between social media and depressed states of

1397
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: teenagers and stuff. And I'm just like, I'm like, dude,

1398
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: what world are you living in? Broo? Also, what world

1399
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: are you living in?

1400
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 3: Because they have internal documents proving that their research has

1401
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: showed that and that they were hiding it up, and

1402
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: this was the point of a whole other investigation right now,

1403
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: So this guy, the father of this kid who's passed away,

1404
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,440
Speaker 3: is suing Meta now, alleging that it uses its algorithms

1405
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: to aggressively target adolescents and does not do enough to

1406
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: keep them safe from harm, which I one hundred percent agree.

1407
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: As I said earlier in the episode, this second we

1408
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 3: try to post anything like a sponsored post or just

1409
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: me sharing an embroidered art I did it immediately gets

1410
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: shut down. I have twenty thousand followers, and I might

1411
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: get like thirty, Like statistically, that's not even possible. And

1412
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: we could go on about this for hours two But

1413
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 3: then again, we got all these porn bots all the time.

1414
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: I get ads all the time for weight loss things

1415
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 3: and all these things that could potentially be triggering to

1416
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 3: a young woman as myself, And it's horrible, like they

1417
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: use their algorithms to target at these children into being

1418
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 3: addicted and making them see this stuff they shouldn't be seeing,

1419
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: but when it actually comes down to the harassment, they're

1420
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing to prevent it. And then being like, oh,

1421
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: the computer can only do so much. Well, put your

1422
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 3: efforts into doing something good, you should say.

1423
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 2: Like I was telling Maria this the other day that

1424
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: when I when the whole like Travis Kelsey and Tyler

1425
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: Swift thing happened, I looked at the stories and went

1426
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: back in the summer, like when she went to that

1427
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: first game, because I was like, I was, I'll be

1428
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: honest with you, like I didn't even know who that

1429
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: dude was. I have no interest in football. I didn't

1430
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: know that he was such a big deal, and I

1431
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: was just kind of like, wait, what's going on here?

1432
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: This is kind of interesting story my Facebook now both

1433
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: on my feed my normal like I guess you have

1434
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 2: like a normal feed and the news feed. It's just

1435
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: kind of like if you scroll through it, you would laugh.

1436
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: It's like every other story is Teller Swift Kelsey, like

1437
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: their family, this, that and that, and I'm just like

1438
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: it's just like thrown down my throat and I'm like

1439
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't really care about her that much or him

1440
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: at all to be seeing this seven thousand times a

1441
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: day and be all up in their life, and it's

1442
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: just like weird how they They're like, you want to

1443
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: see this, you want to see this, you want to

1444
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: see this, and they just shove it down your throat, like.

1445
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, my grape is. For example, before we started recording today,

1446
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: we were having some technical difficulties.

1447
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: Some some three hours three hours worth.

1448
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 3: But when I texted you the link to download the

1449
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 3: webcam controls on the new computer, within seconds, when I

1450
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: went on Instagram, i had an ad for that company,

1451
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 3: and I'm.

1452
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it happens.

1453
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: So you can sort through my text messages and see

1454
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 3: my conversation, But you can't block somebody from sending me

1455
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: a harassing message. Yeah, exactly, it's I don't believe it

1456
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 3: they and they really should say like why, I mean,

1457
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 3: and I don't know how they can prevent this. But

1458
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 3: if there's if there's like these burner accounts that are

1459
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: messaging American young kids, like why why would they need

1460
01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 3: to talk to that person?

1461
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 2: And it's it's really hard because I just heard a

1462
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: story about a young girl that was only fourteen years

1463
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 2: old that that they they believe she was she was

1464
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: taken by some guy off the internet because and apparently

1465
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: her mom had all of the filters and everything on

1466
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 2: the phone and the controls, the parental controls, and it

1467
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 2: still happened.

1468
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: So you have to understand from a teenage this kid

1469
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: is a teenager, right, who's in high school or something. Yeah,

1470
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 3: seventeen years seventeen year old boy, right, some hot girl

1471
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: that's like one of these pornbot pictures is messaging you

1472
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: and like telling you that she wants to see pictures

1473
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 3: of you naked, maybe even sending pictures of someone naked

1474
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: to him, pretending to be this woman. It's it's like,

1475
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 3: of course, a boy is gonna jump on that, like

1476
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: it's it's like a normal it's a normal thing, right,

1477
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: Kids just don't their brains aren't developed enough to be like,

1478
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 3: you know what, don't ever send naked pictures of yourself

1479
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: because they'll be the only Internet forever. There's an entire

1480
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: television show called Catfish. Adults don't even know this goes on.

1481
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: People are horrible.

1482
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, So, I mean, it's just it's so sad.

1483
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: And it's really sad to me that the boy felt

1484
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: like he had to kill himself. But then it's like,

1485
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: think about this, like his dad's like a like a

1486
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: congressman or whatever, and he was probably scared that that

1487
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: would that that would really embarrass his dad or something

1488
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: like who knows, who knows what the feeling was. Again,

1489
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: the kid's seventeen, and sometimes stuff happens to you and

1490
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: your whole world is falling down when you're a teenager

1491
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: and you don't realize that like nobody gives a shit

1492
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: about what you did when you were a teenager when

1493
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: you get older, you know. But it's just it's so

1494
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: terrible and and the thing is is what makes it

1495
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: the most terrible is that like that wasn't a one

1496
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: and done that. You know it's it's gonna happen again

1497
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: because Meta seems to not give a shit about it.

1498
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: No, and that dude's gonna argue all all day long

1499
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: it's a computer's well because the answer is a lot

1500
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,919
Speaker 3: of these people in Congress just they really don't understand

1501
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: how these computers were. And it's not like I do either,

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Speaker 3: but I think we're all getting a little hip to

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Speaker 3: the fact that if they could do certain things, they

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Speaker 3: could do other things. Yea, and exactly it's where they

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: choose to spend the time developing certain features and they

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01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: don't in other areas.

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Speaker 2: So that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: But state senators have now passed the bill named Gavin's

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01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: Law before sending it to the government. So, uh, it's

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 3: legislation that makes sexual extortion the act of blackmailing somebody

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 3: using sexually explicit images videos, blah blah blah, a felony

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01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 3: offense and aggravated felony, especially if the victim is a

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Speaker 3: minor or vulnerable adult.

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Speaker 2: So so what my question is, though, like if this

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Speaker 2: person lives in like another country, like does this really matter?

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: Can they get in trouble here? I doubt it, and

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,879
Speaker 2: most like, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Some of it is like really evil, really sick people

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 3: that are just doing it independently. But I feel like

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01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 3: a lot of it is these people that just develop

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01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: these these bots that go in and do whatever they

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01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 3: can they get money, it doesn't matter what it is,

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: and it's just a disgusting system. And we really have

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 3: to get a handle on it because this tech industry

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: of social media is still so unregulated in our government

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01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: and we need to be working on making it a

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: safer place because it's getting out of control. It is

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01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 3: so out of control. So hopefully this bill goes all

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01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 3: the way through. I think it'll help a lot of

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01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: people out. But they really got to get a system

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01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 3: on all of this. And Homeboy's got to stop act

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01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 3: and so innocent. He's very smart, He's one of the

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: richest people in the world. He knows exactly what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: I think he does. But I also think that he's

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01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: like scared little boy. That's every time I see him,

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01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: it's like he looks like a scared little boy and

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: he's like, what the fuck have I done? Like he

1538
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: just he's he's opened something that he didn't know. Again

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01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: with the whole neurolink thing. It's like he didn't even

1540
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: think in his wildest dreams that anybody would live streaming

1541
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 2: homicides in this because like when you're a good person,

1542
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm because.

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: He stole the idea, so of course he didn't think

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 3: out everyting because it's not even his idea. Yeah, maybe

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01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: I can't believe his board hasn't pushed him out yet.

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01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: I will not be surprised if in the next decade

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01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: that happens and I will be sitting there with popcorn

1548
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: watching the whole thing.

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Good.

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01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: So, okay, onto questions of the day. Every Friday, we

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01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: put a little question box on the at mother nos

1552
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 3: Death Instagram. You guys can ask away any type of question,

1553
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 3: medical related, personal related. We clearly like to talk about anything.

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01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: So first, do tattoos look any different on bodies during

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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: autopsy or do they stay mostly the same?

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 2: They if you're just dead and then we examine your

1557
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: body that day or the next day, they look the same.

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01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: If you decompose a lot of times, one of the

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01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: first steps in decomposition is that the skin starts to

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: the epidermis layer, or the top layer of the skin

1561
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: starts to separate from the dermis or the bottom layer

1562
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: of the skin, and it's kind of cool. Actually, if

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01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: the epidermis slips off of the top layer of the dermis,

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01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: the tattoo. So if you have like if you're like

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01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: an older guy, like seven year old guy that got

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01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: a tattoo in the navy or something, and it looks

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: like a blurry anchor that you could barely even tell

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01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 2: it's an anchor, it's crazy because when the epidermist comes

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: off in the dermist, the tattoo usually looks like super

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01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: crisp and clear in the dermist. It's really interesting looking.

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I learned from your lecture a couple of

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: years ago that tattoo ink goes what seven layers deep

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01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 3: in the skin.

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01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes all the way into the dermal layer.

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Like, depending on who does it right, it could they

1578
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: could put it way too deep or not deep enough.

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 3: But that is cool though. Okay, next, have you been

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: in the middle of an autopsy and stumbled upon a

1581
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: missing organ or body part? Yeah?

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: Sure, all the time. I found extra body parts, Like

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: what one of my favorite things to find is like,

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01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: well maybe different ones too, So sometimes people have they

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: could have like double urrotors for their kidney, so instead

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 2: of having one urrotor that goes to the bladder, they'll

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: have four. They could have two on each side, so

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01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: that would be like an extra body part. People could

1589
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: have something called a necessory spleen, so you could find

1590
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 2: multiple spleens in a person. That's always really fun. And yeah,

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01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: most of the time they don't tell us that that's

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01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: that's happening because they're well. A double urdor would be

1593
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: a could be a problem for people. Some people have

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01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: them and don't even know they have it, or some

1595
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: people know they have it and don't have any problems

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: with it. But other times you could get urinary tract

1597
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: problems with that. But there's times where we do autopsies

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01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: on people that have had kidney transplants, and believe it

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: or not, when you get a kidney transplant, they usually

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: just leave your old kidney in there. So sometimes I've

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01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: seen like three kidneys and four kidneys and peop people. Yeah,

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01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: so like in certain situations like that, but usually I

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: would read the chart ahead of time and know the

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: person had a transplant, so I wouldn't be like, what

1605
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: the hell is this doing here? Yeah, and obviously people

1606
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: that have had other kinds of surgeries and stuff. I mean,

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: you have people that bow resections and you open them

1608
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: up and there's like they don't have an entire colon

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: or something.

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01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's cool. I never thought about finding

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01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: it actually, and I actually I actually hate that because

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 3: like if people had lots of surgeries, the autopsies were

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01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: just so much more difficult to do.

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01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: Because we talked about with Lisa Marie Presley having surgical

1615
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: adhesions and stuff, and that makes it difficult for us too.

1616
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: If there's lots of scars to take the organs out

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: the normal way.

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01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: That's cool, all right, Well, thank you guys. After you're

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: done listening to our podcast, you should go over to

1620
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: Behind the Shield podcast and listen to an awesome interview

1621
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 3: that my mom did with James. He was super cool

1622
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: to interview. He really great, So that was great.

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 2: So listen to that. He was just asking me questions

1624
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: about my life, how I met Gabe, all that kind

1625
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: of stuff. It was fun.

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01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so definitely check that out. And thank you to

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Speaker 3: stink Bomb for sponsoring this episode. We'll see you guys

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Speaker 2: Say uh, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death

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01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: as a reminder. My training is as a pathologists assistant.

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01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

1632
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

1633
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 2: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

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01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

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Speaker 2: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

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Speaker 2: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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