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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November two. This is Checkuars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: that guy who goes through life shaken not stirred, Jay

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Speaker 1: Peace Shadraw Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: Headed into week number nine, Number nine, Number nine. The

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Speaker 1: Jags get the Texans this week at t I A.

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Speaker 1: Bank Field. Plenty to get to on the show, Prisco

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Speaker 1: and Boselli coming up. Minshew injured and out this week.

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Speaker 1: Jake Luton will get the starter reps in practice and

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Speaker 1: play against the Texans. Dug Moron today said Mike Lennon

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Speaker 1: should be ready as well defense facing Deshaun Watson this

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Speaker 1: week and the Texans, and we'll get to your social

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Speaker 1: questions will go around the See South, the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: and the not so powerful rankings that we promised last week.

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Speaker 1: We will get to those as well. Let's hear from

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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Morone today he spoke with the media

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Speaker 1: for the first time since the bye week. Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: is out, Jake Lewton will get the reps. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: start with these practices each day and preparation and you

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Speaker 1: know all that, and I think I think we'll all

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Speaker 1: we'll all know, we'll know it when we see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that's um um I opening,

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Speaker 1: you know, just going there and see if you can operate,

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Speaker 1: and see how he plays against the live rush. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how he plays, you know, with a without

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Speaker 1: a live rush. You know, he's done some good things,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it will be some things that he

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Speaker 1: wants to take back. And you just hope the good

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Speaker 1: plays are good and the bad plays don't kill you.

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Speaker 1: I think that the truth. Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli joining

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Speaker 1: us now on Jaguar's Happy Hour. How about that out everything?

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Oh my god, By the way, we got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback change. If he plays well, he plays well,

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Speaker 1: if you gotta right, my god, what was that that? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to laugh, but I couldn't read. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jake Lutenine baby and Doug did I mean

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Speaker 1: one thing he said? It wasn't with a lot of enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: He's right, you have no idea what this kid could do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about what we saw last night. And

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Speaker 1: Bend Nucci, who is the seventh round pick, third string quarterback,

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Speaker 1: had no reps, barely any reps in camp, probably no

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Speaker 1: limited reps all of uh in practice and preparation for

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Speaker 1: the early season games. At least he got some more

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Speaker 1: reps because he was the backup one week behind Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Luton has had no reps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: tell me last time, Pete. I mean, you know the

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Speaker 1: NFL works. He worked with the first team offense um

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Speaker 1: before this week. Never never, like he's never had a rep.

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Speaker 1: Not preparing for the game plan. I mean he's in

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Speaker 1: the meetings, but he's running scout team. He's the third quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He is not getting any real reps until this week.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they're off today or maybe they

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Speaker 1: came in today, they're off tomorrow. They have like two

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Speaker 1: days the full like on the field prep. They have

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Speaker 1: to be off tomorrow. It's my point. And they were

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Speaker 1: all they were out all last week. They didn't work

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Speaker 1: at all during I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the

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Speaker 1: new CBA, you're not like the whole week's off. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they were on the field. I think there

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Speaker 1: were meetings earlier in the week. Yes, meetings, but come on,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're asking this kid. You're not asking what

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Speaker 1: from him. Whatever you get is great point, that's my point.

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Speaker 1: But it's better than starting. Mike Glenn, I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: I think maybe Doug could have shown a little more

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Speaker 1: it almost looks like he was forced to start him,

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Speaker 1: doesn't I don't know. I'm not diving into that. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: but that okay, on the surface, looking at it, didn't

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Speaker 1: look that way, Tony. I'm not gonna say because I

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Speaker 1: up and he's like a little melancholy, just like right whatever,

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Speaker 1: Like he's looked to me, he looked tired, but he

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Speaker 1: Where where did that something happened in the office bye

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Speaker 1: program to work with. They don't have to. They're choosing,

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Speaker 1: to be clear, they can start a guy who started

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Speaker 1: NFL games if they wanted to. I'm not saying they should,

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Speaker 1: But they very easily could have started Mike Glennon one

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Speaker 1: with JP says they had to do this. They didn't

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Speaker 1: this kid has no idea. Now, he might be great.

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Speaker 1: He can throw it, he can spend it, all those

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, thank god, thank god the Texans

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Speaker 1: can't rush the passer. I mean, look what find out

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Speaker 1: what he isn't let him play. Yeah, it might not

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Speaker 1: look good, but so what I mean it doesn't. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's all about evaluation. That's all this season is about.

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Speaker 1: That's all the rest of the season is about. In value. Evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Not you're eleven wins to go to the playoffs, nothing

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Speaker 1: the way, what if he plays well, then good? Right?

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Speaker 1: He's not like the Herbert. I'm telling you the kid

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Speaker 1: can throw it. If you watched Organs they play I

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Speaker 1: I remember Blaine Gabbert during training camp, you ever was like,

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Speaker 1: rest of the way, And he looks like justin Herbert. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how many games do they win? Well, how many's Justin Herbert? One?

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Speaker 1: He's only one one Jaguars, right, do they know that

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Speaker 1: they have their guys? Yeah? But okay, but they're scoring

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Speaker 1: Ustin Herbert, do you need a quarterback? Who's what number?

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Speaker 1: My picking? Well, if you win one more game, you

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Speaker 1: might not be pigging too. Okay, but if I'm picking

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Speaker 1: what the kid has. It could be a total disaster.

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Speaker 1: But Joe, go find out thrown around and don't make

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Speaker 1: third down. Let him play because you're not loses that

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Speaker 1: wins and lasses don't matter. Yeah they do, Yes, they do.

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Speaker 1: You play to win the game. The losses matter. Keep

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Speaker 1: keep piling those up and maybe God, God help you.

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Speaker 1: The Sam darn Old will get a win somewhere. But

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Speaker 1: don't the Jets have to win two because of strength

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Speaker 1: and schedule. Who is it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Who's having easier schedule, the Jets or the dag Wars. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Texans will help because they still Yeah, we can

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Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just saying, Um, I hope he's good. Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's set expectations. What are your expectations for Jake

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Speaker 1: Luton in this game against the Texans. This will be

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Speaker 1: the easiest defense, the worst defensive faces. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: when you get them, it's and your eyes will tell you.

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Speaker 1: Your eyes will tell you in two weeks, three weeks,

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Speaker 1: maybe in a maybe in a quarter, we'll find out

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Speaker 1: if he's good or not in that game Sunday, let's

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Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Plenty of quarterback talk still

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Speaker 1: to come. We'll get into the defense when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Monday on Jaguars Happy Hour, We're going to touch on defense.

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Speaker 1: We did briefly there, but can we really call this

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Speaker 1: like Pete, this is going to be a long spiral

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Speaker 1: gonna be a long downward spiral with Pete all year

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Speaker 1: of negativity until we reached January three at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I'm being positive. I'm looking at the draft already. What

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Speaker 1: at the draft. Have you you bet your first mock

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Speaker 1: out yet? Pie? But if I watched Justin Fields on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, I want to I want to evaluate these guys.

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Speaker 1: Come on, JP. Negativity, that's not negativity. Negativity is coming

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Speaker 1: We're looking ahead. We're looking to the future, which is

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Speaker 1: what this team should be doing now. The future, the

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Speaker 1: future we are. The future is Jake Luton right now.

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Speaker 1: Future is bright sunglasses, yeah, to shield your eyes. JP

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Speaker 1: the game to win? He's like it, don't speaking, man?

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Speaker 1: I still I just can't get It's Tony, you talked

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Speaker 1: of with you, man, it's you play to win football games, now,

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Speaker 1: I know, but it's just it's frustrating. JP. You're right,

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Speaker 1: here's the difficult thing. And then it's hard because why

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Speaker 1: we have relationships within the building and everything else, just

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Speaker 1: you can guarantee you get him. Well, it's hard not

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Speaker 1: to say, like that's the best pathway. Now, with that said,

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Speaker 1: it's super difficult for me to j P because I

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Speaker 1: It's no fun. Constantly coming in and talking about all

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Speaker 1: the things that are wrong and bad performance and bad

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Speaker 1: and bad this and bad that, bad year after year

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Speaker 1: after year too. By the way, nobody likes talking about it,

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Speaker 1: tired of it. You're tired. Everyone's tired, um, And so

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Well, Pete loves and stuff, No I don't.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: then you don't win. Then you start looking to the

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Speaker 1: future and you can they can say they don't they do.

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Speaker 1: It's a natural thing. I wonder if you're a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what I like to be He catch passes

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Speaker 1: do it. They do it. Yeah, But I would disagree

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Speaker 1: we gotta find a way to win the game. Every

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Speaker 1: coach is thinking about how do we gonna win? Dave

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Speaker 1: Cable and all the scout is thinking we need to

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Speaker 1: win a football game. That's all that, because if they don't,

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Speaker 1: then they're all gonna be out of here too, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and picking those guys. But if you're what,

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Speaker 1: if you're DJ Chart, you're not gonna be out of

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Speaker 1: there right. No. But but he's still I promise you

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Speaker 1: if you're if you gave DJ Tark truth sirum, he's

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Speaker 1: not thinking about Trevor Lawrence or or Justin Fields. He's

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Speaker 1: not thinking about that, Pete. He's not thinking about it openly,

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Speaker 1: but he's fantasized. No, he's not. He's thinking about how

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Speaker 1: he can be the best he can because he knows

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Speaker 1: you don't think. On the Sunday when he's not playing

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Speaker 1: I wonder where to be like to catch balls from

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Speaker 1: the job of what we're supposed to do evaluating this

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Speaker 1: and where they sit, and what's realistic and what you

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard for them to get substantially better

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Speaker 1: with the current roster. Now, do I think the young

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Speaker 1: And maybe Jake Luton is like the next great, but

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Speaker 1: I'm so tired of hearing about that. I guess how

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Speaker 1: a it's a real small group, it's a yeah, what

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Speaker 1: you do, tony. Young players getting better is important more

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Speaker 1: so trying to win the game. I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 1: wants to win the game. If you're on the team

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Speaker 1: and you're a coach and you're in the organization, yes,

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Speaker 1: you want to win the football game. Well you're saying,

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Speaker 1: is okay, let's just step back and be a realistic

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Speaker 1: where this team is right now, and great if you win, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But most important, if you're thinking about the future and

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Speaker 1: having a chance to compete for whiteoffs and the chance

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Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl and not have this

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Speaker 1: conversation year after year after year after year after year,

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Speaker 1: is hey, young players have to get better. You have

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Speaker 1: to find the quarterback in the future, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna have the same conversation every year. Correct, Correct,

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Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity and they clearly do

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Speaker 1: to get Trevor Lawrence, then do everything in your power

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Speaker 1: to get him. Yeah, but you can't. But that that's

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Speaker 1: where I lose you, Pete, because nobody like Doug, your

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Speaker 1: own and Dave called well, the coaching staff, and these

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Speaker 1: players aren't gonna do everything. They're not thinking, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: do everything we can to lose. They're not gonna try

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Speaker 1: and lose games. But I'm saying from cynical standp No,

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Speaker 1: the best thing for him is to lose the games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you're gonna try and lose games.

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Speaker 1: Nobody tries to lose. Nobody wants to lose. And if

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Speaker 1: you're a player, you take accountability and how you play.

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Speaker 1: If I'm on a one in ten team, I'm still

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Speaker 1: playing my hardest and doing my best. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you gotta hope for, and you gotta young players get better.

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Speaker 1: But the end game is this, young players getting better

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Speaker 1: is more important than fluking into a lucky wind. Say

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Speaker 1: say there's a part return for a fumble, you pick

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Speaker 1: it up in the end zone. You would be the

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Speaker 1: team somehow you win the game. That's not showing progress,

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Speaker 1: that's showing you fluked into a victory. Is that good

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Speaker 1: for the franchise? No? Yeah, I mean you're you're We're

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Speaker 1: just saying we're talking about two different things. What's good

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Speaker 1: in the short term, what's good in the long term.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't to say long term, medium term, the next

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Speaker 1: year to the next year term. If it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: is finding in quarterback? I mean you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to solve that mystery. You have to find the

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Speaker 1: guy and you have to. By the way, at the

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Speaker 1: same time, you get better on defense too. But that's

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Speaker 1: a whole difference conversation. You know who the number one

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Speaker 1: defense in the league is right now? Tampa Bay No,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh No. Yeah, the good day they gave up four

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards of defense. The number one defense in

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Speaker 1: the league? Right what by what? Metrics? Scoring? Scoring? Defense? Yep,

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Speaker 1: h number one, number one. Now I think they have

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Speaker 1: their quarterback and he didn't do anything on But okay,

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Speaker 1: let's take the exact scenario, because Miami was terrible. That

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Speaker 1: would you take growth like that in the next season

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Speaker 1: and solidified quarterback position if you could do that. Of

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Speaker 1: course you would. And why did that happen because they

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Speaker 1: allowed young guys to develop and play. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay is number one in yards per game

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Speaker 1: total defense. Who's number one? Who's number one in scoring

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Speaker 1: Defenseimi Dolfins. But if you do that one metric, what

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Speaker 1: d v O A. I don't know what that stands for.

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Speaker 1: Like Tampa is the best defense, right, Miami is the

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Speaker 1: best scoring defense, which is I mean, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, that's all that matters. That's how many

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Speaker 1: score compared to men. You give up and they turned

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Speaker 1: the ball and they took the ball away. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying use Miami as a gage for how you

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Speaker 1: can fix it. You get your quarterback, but you allow

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Speaker 1: the young players during a season when it's going to

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Speaker 1: be bad, to develop and at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a good thing. That's a good thing

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Speaker 1: for developmental the developmental process. It's not about just winning games.

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Speaker 1: That's not what this season is about for Jackville. It's

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Speaker 1: about development, developing players. So play the young games you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas, put them in there, let them play. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll get into some of those young

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Speaker 1: defensive players for this football team, including Devon Hamilton's who

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Speaker 1: A little bit of breaking news here Ian Rappaport's reporting

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Speaker 1: just moments ago that we mentioned the fullback Bruce Miller

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. Well. Ian Rappaport says he's being suspended

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Speaker 1: six games for p e D s. His agent says

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Speaker 1: That's a tweet from Ian Rappaport just moments ago. Um,

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's right. So here's another one full back.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to defense. Then in that case, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about some of these young players on defense. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas last segment, Pete. Of course, he had the

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Speaker 1: block punt returned for a touchdown on special teams last week,

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Speaker 1: and the times he's been on the field of defense,

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Speaker 1: which hasn't been a lot. He was in there at

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Speaker 1: one point for an injury for about a half of

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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's had a good game last week. That gives

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Speaker 1: you some promise up front on the defensive line. In

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Speaker 1: benefiting from playing. You can see him getting better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that was his best game. I mean absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean more reps he can get. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: big guy. I mean, you'd like to see a little

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Speaker 1: thought he played very well against the Chargers. And he's

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Speaker 1: a perfect example of what's going what what will be

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Speaker 1: a part of what's going forward and letting him develop

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year. That's right, Chase. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get Chase on going. How does he get going? He's

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Speaker 1: so as a speed rusher, you have to develop a

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Speaker 1: counter move to keep the tackle on its Otherwise they're

843
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Speaker 1: just gonna sit bail out on you, keep you in

844
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Speaker 1: the outside, and run you around the pocket all day long.

845
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: And that's what has happened in the um chase on

846
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: it a little bit. Josh Allen too. I mean Josh

847
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Allen's obviously further along, he's had the injury. UM. I

848
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: still think he's a really good player. Um had a

849
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: slow start obviously, But you know, it's the development of

850
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: that second Excuse me, if you're a speed guy, that

851
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: secondary move. I agree, and and but can you learn

852
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: that during a season? Yeah? Why not? What else are

853
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: you gonna be doing? You're getting all the reps? Yeah,

854
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I think he should be doing more than

855
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: he's doing. I think Josh Allen will do more than

856
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: he's doing in the second part of the season. I

857
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: think Hamilton's going to be a nice building block. What

858
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: do you do with linebacker? I mean, Miles Miles Jack

859
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: is coming back. I think he's a good player. At

860
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: some point, you start taking away reps from Chober He's

861
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: paid him a bunch of doesn't mean you can't admit

862
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: your mistake. Do you see that happening there's not been

863
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: a history of in this organization of admitting your mistakes quickly.

864
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: They they make him even more complicated by just piling

865
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: on top of usually list a lot of times. The

866
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: greatest thing you can do in any you know, I

867
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: think in the NFL, but you look at the business world, anything,

868
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, make him make a decision. But then guess what,

869
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: when you're wrong, admit it and move on because otherwise

870
00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: you otherwise you just compound that mistake. So real quick,

871
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: before we go down this road, I want to ask

872
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: you a little more about Schobert. Then we'll get to that,

873
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Like what is it? Is it the last few weeks

874
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: Schobert hasn't lived up to it? And why? But he

875
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: hasn't lived up for it all year? I don't think

876
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: he he hasn't lived up to the contract. He's a

877
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: he's a good sound player, but that that's I mean,

878
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't even been great against the past, which was

879
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: one of his specialties. Yeah, I mean he's uh. And

880
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: this isn'tmpiling on him because if he had better players

881
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: in front of him, he might be a better player too.

882
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: But would you at all consider looking at like a

883
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: guy like Shaq Corterman in some situations. You know, it's

884
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: hard to say Pete because I haven't watching them. I mean,

885
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: we didn't see these guys in preseason. We didn't see

886
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: him in camp. Can he cover? Can you run? I

887
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, he's a he's

888
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: he's the first and second middle linebacker. So if that's

889
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: the case, then you like you literally have to change

890
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: your scheme where you say, okay, if you're gonna take

891
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: Schobert out, you're of course shack in the first down,

892
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: and against right I'm not first, but against regular personnel,

893
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: he's your mic linebacker. And then you bring in either

894
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: Schobert for Nickel or you bring in uh Williams for

895
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: Nicol and move uh him. I mean, so then it

896
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: gets really convoluted and you're thinking more, a lot of

897
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: thinking to be done. Then I get it, and so like,

898
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: do I think, um, show it's great? No? Is he awful? No?

899
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was didn't play well against Chargers, But

900
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: there's not like there's nothing that jumps out watching the

901
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: tape of him, like wow, he's like a difference maker. No,

902
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: and he's not. You're right, he's not awful. He's not

903
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: a difference maker. He just is and they aren't just

904
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: paying him so a lot. Yeah, so play Joe, play right.

905
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Dash idea is just making play better better. It doesn't

906
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: work like that. And here's the thing that you have

907
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: to be careful free agents all the time. Just because

908
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: you paid guy a lot of money doesn't mean he's

909
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: like really good. I mean, this league is this league.

910
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: This league's history is littered with guys who hit free

911
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: agency at the right time, got a bunch of money,

912
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: and they were average players. They got paid that great

913
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: players because they were on the open market. And it

914
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: only takes one team to pay you a bunch of money, right,

915
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: I agree, Well, Jackson will make any deals like for what,

916
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know deals what we were just trade machine

917
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: here all of a sudden. I mean maybe if you like,

918
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: the only way deals I'm making is if I'm trading

919
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: somebody who makes a bunch of money and get draft picked,

920
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: and you don't because I'm just who who would you

921
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: be able to do? Like you can trade who? You're

922
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of anybody on that offensive line.

923
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money, are you No? I

924
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's gonna pay a lot of I mean,

925
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: they're not gonna take those salaries probably. I mean, the

926
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: only the only guy he's hurt he's been hurt is

927
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. That's a that's a big salary. But he's

928
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: your best player on defense. Right now? What about what

929
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: about Linda and uh and uh Norwell, if they given

930
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: uh offensive line needy team that might want to make

931
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs might be interested, all right, who Okay, let's

932
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: just think this to Pete. Who is that team that's

933
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna giving you something worth trading right now? I'm I'm

934
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: just saying, okay, let's just say the Eagles, but that

935
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: they're They're office line has been bad all year, but

936
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: you know they have a center that's a problem there

937
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: that if this team played there, if this team played

938
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: the rest of the year without Linder and played with

939
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: chat Lee and BArch for chat Lee and can is, well,

940
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: by what we've seen in the beginning of the year, now,

941
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't a huge drop off on chat

942
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Lee when no Blender is a better pass protective shat

943
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Lee's probably been a better run run player. So but

944
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: here's our thing. Do you think the Eagles are gonna

945
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: give you a three for Linda normal, would you take it?

946
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: I would think long and hard about I know that.

947
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: But here's the thing when you have to when you're

948
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: making the decision peat and I don't know what they're planning,

949
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: like how they're planning for next year. I would hope

950
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: you have a plan for like who we want to

951
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: build around, and so yes, if Lender or nor Well

952
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: aren't in your plans to build for the future, then yes,

953
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: you take a three tomorrow. Absolutely if you say these

954
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: are part of the guys because hey, we want a

955
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: good veteran offensive line because we're gonna go draft a quarterback.

956
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: So I look at it differently, Beat, because you have

957
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: plenty of cap room pay the left tackle and if

958
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the young quarterback, I want a

959
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: veteran offensive line because guess what, you know what's easier

960
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: than life is that the learning curve is if you

961
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: have an offensive line that can protect then than a

962
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: team that just getting the poor young quarterback killed as

963
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: Andrew luck about it. Yeah, you have to think big

964
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: picture here. You have to look down the road like

965
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: you should be evaluating right now. If you're Dave Caldwell,

966
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm not as much Doug mor Own. But say, okay,

967
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: who are the guys that I want to build with.

968
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: And if I'm not building with those guys then and

969
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: if there's any trade value, trade them. Yeah, and lenders contract,

970
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: isn't that bad for next year? And you don't save

971
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: anybody by trading him? Alright, guys, let's come back second.

972
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: It's a bigger conversation just saying, let's trade this guy,

973
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: trade that guy. Yeah, I got it to me. I'm

974
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: keeping the offensive line because I'm most likely to them.

975
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: We're got a rookie quarterback and I want to protect.

976
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,720
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Speaker 1: on before you answer the question. My favorite is and

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01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: I do it all that time too. We never let

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: JP get through his introduction before one of us interrupts him.

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Every time. Well, that's the whole idea, every single moderator.

1054
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: Maybe if you can I can't moderate, if I can't talk.

1055
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: I feel like one of these debates on TV, if

1056
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: you could just come back and say, I'm JP, I'm back. Go.

1057
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: We're taking from there. We're just giving the people what

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: they want JP, which is more me and Tony and

1059
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: lesson less of me. That's real nice. You're really negative today,

1060
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: You're you're this is your spot on today. Let me

1061
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: tell you. Let me finish first, biggest today. Of course,

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: Jake Luton will be the starting quarterback this week after

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew injured his thumb. We also heard from Dug

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: Maron today when asked about the timetable when Gardner Minshew

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: might have injured that thumb. Here's what Maron had to

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01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: say about possible discipline for holding the injury away from

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01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: team officials. One. You know, if you're injured, you need

1068
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: to report it. You have to report it. I said

1069
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: to It's not like I don't understand, you know, the

1070
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: competitiveness and you where you know you want to continue

1071
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: to play. And I said, but you gotta make smart

1072
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: decisions and decisions that's what's best for the team. And

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: and and that was it. So, um, I don't think

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01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get involved with you know, at least from

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: my standpoint of any disciplinary measure. There's the head coach

1076
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: today when I asked about that. So apparently it happened

1077
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. He's been playing through it, Pete

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01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: Tony go. I just my doubts and when it happened,

1079
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what why. I think he's what I mean,

1080
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: was there no, not think he's faking? Was there any

1081
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: difference between the way he played supposedly before the injury

1082
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: and after it? Was there any difference? Yeah? It was

1083
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: worse on I'll say this, I thought he was I

1084
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's been very good, by the way, But

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: I think he was really bad against the Chargers from

1086
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: an accuracy standpoint. But was that because of the finger?

1087
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Pete, I don't know. But you don't look

1088
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: at the first go look at the first ball. Yeah,

1089
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: but okay, but then he dropped one into the bucket

1090
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: on the on the deep ball. That's where you're right.

1091
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: It's hard, like you can't have it both ways. You

1092
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: can't say, like, but here's everything. I've also played hurt.

1093
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: You know you can fight through it. And certain things

1094
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: work work and certain things don't. So I don't know.

1095
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: I think a deep ball would be the one thing

1096
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: that wouldn't work. An through that one perfectly. I believe him.

1097
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give him the benefit of doubt.

1098
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: But when when did show me the play that had

1099
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: happened on? Can we find that? Well, it happened sometime

1100
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: in Houston, supposal, I don't remember you told the game.

1101
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: You watch everyone. I'm gonna go back and look and

1102
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: see when he heard his thumb. Okay, I'll go dive

1103
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: through every plane. Get that done to stand by, I'll

1104
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: be back in I'll be back in a few hours.

1105
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: We'll see it a little bit. It would be a

1106
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: good show with me and j P today. All the sudden,

1107
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: you want me as your cost Pete, that's great. Now

1108
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: you turn the Table's got about as much energy as Dug,

1109
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: which is what are you talking about. I'm just saying

1110
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: I trust the kid. You're saying you doubt the kid.

1111
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: I trust. I don't know, I'm doubt. I don't know

1112
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: what are you saying? What are you saying and you

1113
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: don't believe it, just say it and say it. I

1114
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: just have my doubts when the injury happened, let's put

1115
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: it that way. So you don't believe the kid. I

1116
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: believe him. When did it happen then, Pete, I don't know.

1117
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Well, you're speculating. I'm probably in

1118
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: the minority of If it happened and he used the

1119
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: game and he didn't tell anybody, a lot of people

1120
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: will look get that as a negative and a bad

1121
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: thing that he did. If I'm him and it happened, Houston,

1122
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: I want to play, so I'm gonna do everything I

1123
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: can to play. But what if he was hurting the

1124
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: team by play? And that's that's what's the dog's point.

1125
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's what Dog said. I mean, independing what

1126
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: had I have on. From the team standpoint, i'd be

1127
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: upset and say listen, I mean that we can't do this.

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01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: From the player's standpoint, I don't blame her at all.

1129
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: I think Gardner Minshew is fully aware of like this

1130
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: might be his only shot. He might never get back

1131
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: on the field again as a starting quarterback. Now remember

1132
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: this too, and this jogged my memory earlier today about

1133
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: this Gardner Minshew remember in college at East Carolina once

1134
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: purposely tried to break his hand to keep a scholarship.

1135
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: He told that story at one point. So I'm not

1136
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: saying that I'm just saying they're going to keep the job.

1137
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm just saying that there is a

1138
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: history of out breaking news. JP just accused Gardner Minshew

1139
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: appurposing breaking his thumbs just looking at just to try

1140
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: to help his career. He tried to. It's a story.

1141
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: It didn't happened. So I don't sign off on anything

1142
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: this group is saying of YouTube, because I think it's

1143
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: it's not very unfair to the kid. I think the

1144
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: kid got hurt in Houston. I think he's a tough

1145
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: kid in the competitor and tried to fight through it,

1146
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: and he just got to the point where swelled up

1147
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: because if he hurt his hand in Houston and it

1148
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: was a broken what was it? A broken thumb and

1149
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: ligament issues apparently, Okay, if he had a broken thumb,

1150
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: would it swell? Yeah? That's the other thing. How did

1151
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: you get away? I mean, we need to get like

1152
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback on here, like can you even throw a

1153
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: ball with a broken I'm with horn ligaments? Well, and

1154
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: the other thing is, don't you think guys in the

1155
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: locker room would know that? People wouldn't know? Again, again,

1156
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: you can't. You're not in the locker room. So how

1157
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: the heck could you tell? I mean, okay, let's just

1158
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: say Tony, I'm gonna use you as an example. You're

1159
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: playing your team and Brunell's thumb is broken. I would know,

1160
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: you would know, And therefore and window no, no, no.

1161
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: If he asked me the same thing, I wouldn't say anything,

1162
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: but they would. He would probably tell them too, Hey, guys,

1163
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm playing with a broken thumb. Make sure you're better

1164
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: in protection? You would tell him what would you rather do?

1165
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: Look like crap? And not say anything about it now.

1166
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing, Pete. This can happen if

1167
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: they're if they're minor fractures. It's not like he could

1168
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: have thought he just bruised it or he just had

1169
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: a spring. He could play through it and maybe he

1170
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: got worse throughout the game. It against the Chargers. I mean,

1171
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: that's happened. I didn't know my shoulder was as bad

1172
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: as it was. I played with him for a year. Yeah,

1173
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: but okay, but throwing a football, he got worse. When

1174
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: was the moon ball for the touchdown in the Chargers

1175
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: game third quarter? I think, okay, so then it got

1176
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: better at the game went off, It comes and goes.

1177
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: It's a way that's just here. Here's the cynic in me.

1178
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: He sees a lot of holes in the story, that's all.

1179
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: And I look, maybe maybe the kid. I mean, I'm

1180
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as saying he broke his

1181
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: own thumb, like Jad, I'm just telling you what happened

1182
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: in the past. I can't believe he said that fast.

1183
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: What happened in the past. Your family is not listening.

1184
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: That's rude. Touchdown came with two fifty four left in

1185
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: the third quarter. By the way, Okay, soles play the

1186
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: whole So that whole game, the thumb was bothering him,

1187
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: but when he threw the moon ball from the touchdown,

1188
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: it was fine. Come on, do you see where you

1189
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 1: can be a cynic in the whole thing? Well, maybe

1190
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: the long ball, the position of the football and the

1191
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: thumb doesn't hurt as much. Could you like shoot it

1192
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: up at halftime or something? How does that work? I

1193
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Is that even possible with the thumb? I

1194
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, I mean, I don't know. Maybe yeah,

1195
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: But if you shoot it up at halftime and you

1196
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: don't feel it, can you throw it? Made it sound

1197
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: like Dub didn't find out until after the game, right, Well,

1198
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: if you're shot up and have time to about that,

1199
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: and if it's if he thinks it's just a bruise,

1200
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: doesn't he say something to the training staff, Hey, my

1201
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: thumbs bothered me. Can just check it out. I don't know.

1202
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: There's just there's just a lot of holes in the

1203
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: whole thing, that's all. That's all I'm saying. You're making story.

1204
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like that the one when you go out front

1205
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: you find like when I used to be the big guy,

1206
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: and you find out that he fell on the pavement

1207
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: somewhere after the game. I don't know, you know, like

1208
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: the stories I used to find out about knights on

1209
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: the town back in a day, tell us somebody tell

1210
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: us some of them never on the town. You might

1211
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: have been there for a couple No, no, no, no, no, no,

1212
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: no no no. Tell who else I think he was there.

1213
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: He might have been, but uh no, I mean, look,

1214
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: the bottom line is stuff happens away from the game too.

1215
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: It does. So when it happened, who knows. Maybe he

1216
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: broke it, he felt, maybe he felt. It's just a

1217
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: lot of holes in the story. Come on, let's be

1218
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: real about it. When it happened home on, why didn't

1219
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: the team know? Why didn't he say anything? How can

1220
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: he throw a moonball in the third quarter for a

1221
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: touchdown when the thing is broken? There's a lot of

1222
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: holes in the story. So okay, in fairness, it does

1223
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: not look good because especially the injury, how you're supposed

1224
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: to report injuries. He's the starting quarterback of an NFL franchise. Yes,

1225
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: bad play, you're losing, things are going. It does not

1226
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: It seems like we're missing something here. But I'll say

1227
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: this when your adrenaline is going, Pete. You can do

1228
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: things when you're hurt. That's a fact that great. And

1229
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: you can be inconsistent doing it too, So like you

1230
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: can make good plays and bad plays because you're hurt,

1231
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: and you can suck it up. And I think Garder

1232
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: mentioned a tough dude. Maybe maybe he just could suck

1233
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: it up. And you know, some throws you can get

1234
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: away with it and others the ball didn't feel right

1235
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: in his hand. I don't know. I didn't play quarterback.

1236
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: But to your point, it's like, this is not normal.

1237
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way, right, there's a lot of holds.

1238
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: This is a Swiss cheese story. Is this the matter

1239
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: of you can I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go Swiss cheese,

1240
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: but we would you, all right? So what would make

1241
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: it a solid story, Pete? Like what what would be

1242
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: from cutting dry? This is okay? Heard it in the

1243
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: Houston game and tried to play through it. Wanted to

1244
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: stay on the field because he knew he wasn't playing

1245
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: well and wanted to fight to keep his job. People

1246
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: would pay him for that, I probably would, But I

1247
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: wonder if he just didn't put his hand down somewhere

1248
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: on a fall and then said, okay, I heard it.

1249
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: He used the game. I don't know. There's just so

1250
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,839
Speaker 1: many holes in the story. How does it not get around,

1251
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: How does his hand not swell? How does he take

1252
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: the snap? Does he throw the football? There's a lot

1253
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: of holes in it. And I'm curious if he'll be

1254
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: available this week to media. If they said, okay, here's

1255
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: one for you. If he had come out and said

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Speaker 1: nobody would say boo about it, right, It'd be fine, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in the Chargers game. Now he is

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Speaker 1: a broken dumb But they said he got hurt in

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Speaker 1: if you're a player and you knew you were hurt,

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Speaker 1: and you know the rules, you would lie and say no,

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Speaker 1: I got hurt in the Charger game. Of course, yeah

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Speaker 1: that is true that Tony. Now I'm as as the prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so damn good at it. I have my

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Speaker 1: the story. Well is what it is? Does it matter

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Speaker 1: pick one. No, it doesn't matter in the long term.

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Speaker 1: Uh but look, he was going to sit down eventually

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Anyways, if he continue

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Speaker 1: to play that way, let's be honest about it. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. Let's go. Maybe he broke his own thumb.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. That was

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars. Happy Our rolls along on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: We have reached November. It's week nine. The Jags faced

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Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us today. It is time now

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Speaker 1: for our weekly social media Questions segment. We put the

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Speaker 1: bat signal out earlier in the day. Here's what we've

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Speaker 1: come up with this afternoon. By the way, is Peter

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Speaker 1: sleep Tony, he's going on? He does out on us?

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Speaker 1: Is it past your bedtime? Peak? Could you could you

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Speaker 1: imagine having to wake up next to that every day Jake,

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Speaker 1: what about you? You know what? I was over here

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Speaker 1: with a hammer trying to figure out how to break

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Speaker 1: my Let's go to social questions at Cats Fan twelve.

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Speaker 1: Is it Luton time? Well, this was obviously asked before

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Speaker 1: Doug Maron's press conference today, so the answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: Zona Cats Fan twelve, it is Luten time. The next

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Speaker 1: question will be what can we expect from Luten this Sunday?

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: Who knows? That's that's the mystery. I mean, Doug Baron

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Speaker 1: said it best. I mean, he looks good in practice,

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01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: he can spin it his big arm. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: a fairly good athlete, But who knows what happens when

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01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: he's got the blitz coming down his right down his throat.

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Speaker 1: How does he react? Yeah, I'm excited to see him

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Speaker 1: because I've heard I watched him in college, and I

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: heard he looked good in the summer, and I like

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Speaker 1: guys who have in the big arm. I want to

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Speaker 1: see what he can do, how he spends it. Here's

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Speaker 1: a great test. Does he do do once he gets hit?

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Speaker 1: Does do his eyes lower and start looking at the

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Speaker 1: rush and he can't see the field? Can he anticipate

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Speaker 1: can you see downfield? I mean, there's a rookie. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna expect a lot of that. But I'll be

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Speaker 1: watching his eyes. Do do his eyes start coming down

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Speaker 1: looking at the rush when he starts getting hit? Did

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Speaker 1: Gardner's eyes start coming down? I think I think I

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Speaker 1: think Gardners did. From the standpoint when the first thing

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Speaker 1: wasn't there, I don't think he could see it. I

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Speaker 1: think he was trouble, having trouble seeing you. And that's

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Speaker 1: when he started bouncing around the pocket, trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out what where to go. By the way, and now

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Speaker 1: we know why he had two hands on the ball.

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Speaker 1: Stop stop, you gotta beat the guy when he's down.

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Speaker 1: Beat'm not beating him. I'm just being back down an

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Speaker 1: you're beating him down, ridiculous, not beating him down. You

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Speaker 1: agree with me? He just don't say it. What do

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Speaker 1: I agree with? I don't he's a backup. That he's

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Speaker 1: a backup. That's what it looks like. Appears to just

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Speaker 1: say it. I think I just did. From now. Whenever

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Speaker 1: you ask me a question, that's you pointed them to say.

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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. It appears that is the case.

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Speaker 1: Samuel Love duval as our next question, who would make

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Speaker 1: a better president but Selly or Prisco. Oh, I would,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. I mean, he's the Maria,

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Speaker 1: He's already the mayor of Jacksonville. So he's got a

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Speaker 1: much better president because you know why, it's one simple

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Speaker 1: trait that Pete will never be able to get over.

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Speaker 1: It's all about Pete. It's all about him. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a good leader and the president,

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Speaker 1: you have to think about everybody. And Pete is incapable

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Speaker 1: of thinking about anyone but himself. He always puts himself first,

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Speaker 1: and his money first outside, maybe his wife outside. After that,

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Speaker 1: it's forget everyone else. He has to say if it's

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Speaker 1: good for me, it's good for me indeed, and I

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Speaker 1: think we have a president that's pretty much like that

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Speaker 1: right now. So I rest my case. JP. That's the

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: easiest question we've had in the history of this show.

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01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: Tony's a smoozer politician more than I am. Just your

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: answer is on here political? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: It appears to be the case, yes, just just saying

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Speaker 1: President Poselli, Um, it looks like you're gonna do something

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01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: really contract personal here. It looks to be the case.

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Come on, so I don't think either of us, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think either of us want the job. No,

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: none of the above on this program want that. Next

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01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: question from Waco Guerrina down in Argentina, if the Jags

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Speaker 1: win a game or two and Lawrence and Fields get

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01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: picked before, is again any other quarterback to draft? Or

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01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: do we stick with Gardener until two? And yes, Pete,

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01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: the Steaks are the best in Argentina. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: said that last week. I said that, or two weeks

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Speaker 1: ago when he had a question. Stick with Gardener if

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Luton plays well, Gardener won't play again.

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Speaker 1: They're saying if you don't give the question was feeling

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01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: if you don't get Fields or uh yeah, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you a kid that's intrigued now, Like guys love Trey

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01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: Land at North Dakota State. I haven't seen them. I

1422
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: watched them, athletic, he's got a good arm, got weird motion. Um,

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01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: I gotta do more work on him. The kid that's

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: intriguing now this year to me, the kid at b

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01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Yu Zach watch him, watch him when you get a chance.

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Speaker 1: He's accurate, he's athletic, he's cocky, he's competent, he's got

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Speaker 1: a good arm. Watch him. What's wrong with Trey Lances

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: throwing motion? You mean it's goofy, it's not. I don't know.

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: It comes out weird. Look at it. You tell me

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01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: if you think it does, just and only watch them,

1431
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: you know a couple of games. But funny the YouTube

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: right now, Trey Lance throwing motion. Pete Prescoe says it's

1433
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: no good. He said, goofy. Just it's just odd looking.

1434
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: At least goofy is what I heard. Goofy. Next question

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Speaker 1: from a Jaguar shark and we talked about this shot.

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: Done anything this year to warrant the starting spot. I

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01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: understand he signed a big contract, but at what point

1438
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: do you let quarterman play? May be you shock on

1439
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: based downs and you showber to Nickel. I don't know.

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: You guys rock love the show, and that is something

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01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. Yes, yeah, but I I just

1442
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know, right, you think it complicates They complicates things

1443
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: too much right now, Like if they were a good

1444
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: team and Porterman was a better first and second down player,

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Speaker 1: you might do it. Yeah, So there you go. So

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: that's a no, um not right. Next question, final question

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Speaker 1: of the Evening at Jordan's stand sill. Do you think

1448
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick would lose to the Jets, a team he hates,

1449
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't have the top pick to get Trevor Lawrence,

1450
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: allowing the Jaguars to get a franchise changing quarterback. I

1451
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Belichick has much to say so and how

1452
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: his team's playing right now? What do you think about

1453
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: in making the excuses he's making about the salary cap

1454
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: and everything. That's unbelievable. I mean, you never thought you'd

1455
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: see Bill Belichick doing that. They're bad right now. It's

1456
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: not a good team and they weren't going to be

1457
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: a good day. Maybe he's taking for Trevor now because

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01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: he knows the Jets and the jat mare he has

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01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: no chance. No, he wouldn't do that. Right there you go,

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Speaker 1: there's our social segment for the Evening. Thanks for getting

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Speaker 1: him in today. We appreciate that everybody. Would the Patriots

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Speaker 1: have a victory if they hadn't signed Cam Newton a

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Speaker 1: free agent? What do you mean, well, they were of

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Speaker 1: the first two games, were scheming up things, running him around.

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Speaker 1: Would they have a victory if they played Jared's did

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Speaker 1: him the whole year, would they be over because a

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Speaker 1: guy in the league told me not that they were

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Speaker 1: tanking for Trevor before they signed Cam Newton, and that

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Speaker 1: he was going to figure it out a way to

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Speaker 1: lot of moving parts there. And then why would he's

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton if that was the case. I agree, But

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Speaker 1: that they are two and five and they've lost four

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Speaker 1: in a row, and let's come back at a moment,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into the FC South, the not so powerful

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Speaker 1: sure I'm seeing you know, the throws and things that

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Speaker 1: you made, you know, during when we're training camp and

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Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year. Um, I said, don't

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Speaker 1: there and you're not throwing the ball. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: so we're just working to get him back to I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the time frame is, UM, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Doug Marone today discussing Gardner wents, usee thumb injury,

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Speaker 1: and welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Tony

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Speaker 1: Baselli well hydrated, and Pete Prisco glad you're along with

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Speaker 1: us today. You know, I was thinking about it during

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Speaker 1: the break about that presidential question. You guys we were

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Speaker 1: talking amongst ourselves and here in the studio. Could Pete

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Speaker 1: even see over the podium to speak? Is that possible?

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Speaker 1: Like already have to have like phone phone books to

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Speaker 1: Mine would have like double that For the entertainment value,

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Speaker 1: it could be huge be able to see me. Could

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Speaker 1: you imagine all those signs all over people's lawns, Chrisco,

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Speaker 1: Crisco Prisco. That's a that's a bad thought. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's depressing thought. It really is. Welcome back. Sorry for

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Speaker 1: the cheap chack. Actually, I'm not sorry at all, Pete.

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Speaker 1: You deserve that one today. Um, let's go around the

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Speaker 1: a f C. Just don't cut my thumb off. Let's

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Speaker 1: go around the A. S c's out. The Texas and

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01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are off. They'll play each other Sunday. In

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Speaker 1: case you haven't heard, the Bengals beat the Titans thirty

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01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: one to twenty. The Colts over the Lions forty one

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01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: twenty one. What happened to the Titans feed is terrible?

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Speaker 1: Have they only scored I didn't see the game feed,

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01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: but have they only scored a couple of times? Yeah,

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01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: they weren't good. They didn't play well, they're bad. I

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01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: thought they were going to give it to Derrick Henry

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01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: forty times against that awful defense and just run it

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Speaker 1: right down their throat, and particularly in the weather. The

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01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: weather was dead. But you know how it goes. You

1586
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: go into the game and your idea of that next thing.

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01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: You know, the other team is scoring and you've got problems.

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01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow is good, really good. Yeah, I said

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01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: that week one, no one listened to me, and they

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Speaker 1: and they had what do you mean, nobody listened to

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01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: you trying to say he's the first overall pick. Of

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01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: course he's gonna be good. I was wondering how long

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Speaker 1: would take you to response? I mean, I said, I

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01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: said on the draft night that he would win one,

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Speaker 1: not to maybe two super Bowls in the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, he's good, he's good. Umah. The Titans,

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by that. I thought they just running

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01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 1: right down to the throat. But they have issues on defense,

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01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about think about it, Tony. As bad

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals line has been, they played without their

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Speaker 1: center and their left tackle and the right tackle yesterday,

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01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: all three of them were out and the Titan just

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Speaker 1: tripated today for Desmond King from the Chargers because they're terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna change my power ring. Yeah, and you've been

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01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: on them all year, you've you've been on him as

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01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: the number one team. I stuck to mind, I thought

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Speaker 1: the Colts were a better team. Last week you said

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Speaker 1: the tight we're number one, we can go, we're the

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01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: taping it. But I always thought that they had to

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01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: be in the number one spocket. They had a better record,

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Speaker 1: and I always thought the Titans the culture the better time.

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01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: That's not how it works. It's not who has the

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01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: better record, it's who you think is the better team

1614
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: standings culture number one, um Titans the number two. And

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01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: then I'll have a tie for third between the Texans

1616
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and the Jags. The winner it's the winner take all

1617
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:31,879
Speaker 1: we can So I'm gonna have old number one Tightens

1618
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: number two, the Texans number three, and the Jaguars number four,

1619
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: and the loser takes all. Well, you know the Dolphins

1620
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: are rooting for the Jags because they have Houston's first

1621
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 1: round pick. Think about that disaster? Is that you? I mean, Okay,

1622
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad in Jacksonville. Right now, but

1623
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: they do have draft pick capital and they have money

1624
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: to spend. The Texans have Deshaun Watson, so they have

1625
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: their quarterback, but everything else is a disaster. No coach,

1626
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: no GM, no no drafts, no draft picks, and no

1627
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: money to spend. Bad situation, the Watson in that situation

1628
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: or no quarterback? And what the jag Warriors have? What

1629
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 1: pick do we have within the now? As as four

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Speaker 1: is that you said for? Yeah, it's number four. How

1631
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: good is Trey Lands for Zack Wilson? You are a

1632
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: little bit early on Zach wilsonbody, No, not. I'm telling

1633
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: you he's one of those guys that's going up, up,

1634
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: up up, Like I don't heard him on anyone's anyone's Yes,

1635
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: he is, he's starting to be he is. Besides prisc

1636
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: who also said, what was your famous one that Miami quarterback?

1637
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: He said it was gonna be a back in the day, Walsh,

1638
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: not one. Oh you're big on Ponder, you said, Christian Ponder.

1639
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: I did. I thought Ponder would be good. I can

1640
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: admit it when I make mistakes. Yeah, there's a lot

1641
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: of them. We can find them up. Like you wanted

1642
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: to look at quarterback mistakes. All you gotta go do

1643
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Speaker 1: is look at the draft history that they were talking about,

1644
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,759
Speaker 1: and we talked about that a few weeks ago. Pete

1645
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: that you go back in grade draft classes after you

1646
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 1: grade them on draft night or the day after the draft.

1647
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Speaker 1: Three years later you go grade you're grades again. I

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Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Now, as promised last week,

1649
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: we're going to start this segment about draft order. I

1650
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: hate it, but as it stands today, the Jets would

1651
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: pick first and eight. The Giants play tonight there one

1652
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: in six, the Jaguars one in six would pick third.

1653
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: Houston's pick would go to Miami. But they were the

1654
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: last thing I saw JP with the strength of schedule,

1655
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: that we were ahead of the Giants. No, not according

1656
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: to what's in front of me right now. So uh,

1657
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: and then Dallas would be fifth, Atlanta sixth. Currently that's

1658
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: the top six as it stands right now. Okay, the

1659
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: question becomes with the Giants drafted quarterback the Jets would take? Ye,

1660
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Jets are taking Trevor Lawrence. I don't think they do.

1661
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: I think they stick with Daniel Jones another year. You do, so,

1662
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: then if that were the case, then Justin Fields would

1663
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: be there at number three in that scenario. I mean,

1664
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean someone could try. But but here's the problem.

1665
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: You're the Jacks. When I can jump up, somebody, somebody will.

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01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: If somebody who wants justin fields will go up to

1667
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: the Giants and trade with him, Well, hey, can you do? Yeah?

1668
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: What make sure you got them? You got extra picked,

1669
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: got draft picked capital. Let's think about some of these

1670
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: other teams that would need a quarterback down the line

1671
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: here right Washington, Yes, yes, I mean Atlanta, Matt Ryan,

1672
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: how much he got left? Uh, they bring it? You

1673
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: know what the Atlanta situation depends on who they bring in.

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01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: If they bring in a veteran coach thinks that they

1675
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 1: go in. Now they go defense because they got I mean,

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01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: they gotta above their offensive lines. Okay, they got a

1677
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: ton of weapons. They got Matt Ryan, they have calf issues.

1678
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Can you get your defense healthy for one years and

1679
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: go spend your draft capital on defense and make it

1680
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: rock the next three years? I mean that's the decision,

1681
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: and that would be determined who the GM and the

1682
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: coaches there. He can still play, yeah, he can't, absolutely can't.

1683
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: And so you know that's a g M coach decision.

1684
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 1: You know you hired. And what does Arthur Blank to

1685
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: do if he hires a gym who convinces him, Hey,

1686
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: let's start this scramp it, let's clean up the cap,

1687
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: let's you know, you know, draft are you know, start

1688
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: building for the future. Well, then you do. I wouldn't

1689
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: do it because, like, finding quarterbacks are hard, and Matt

1690
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 1: Ryan can still play. And by the way, they're gonna

1691
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: win a couple more games this year, so they're gonna

1692
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: be drafting a little lower than that. Anyways, right I'm

1693
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,839
Speaker 1: going by the order as of what would be today

1694
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: right now, So Atlanta, those teams right there, Dallas is

1695
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: gonna take a quarterback. It depends when they do with that.

1696
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: They're going to tack the franchise them. But Pete, you'll

1697
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: know how Dax's ankle is by that point too. I mean,

1698
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of un knows there. Yeah, they're not

1699
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna take the quarterbacks. But so the question becomes through

1700
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 1: the Giants. In that scenario, do the Giants take a quarterback?

1701
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: What have you seen? I don't either for whatever reason.

1702
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: How don't we evaluate the Angel Jones based on what's

1703
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: around them? The offensive line is putred the guy that

1704
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be the best left packle. That

1705
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 1: group has turned out to be the worst so far.

1706
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas has been terrible. He's just beenning top and

1707
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: left tackle. The rest of the line is a very

1708
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: good either. Then his receivers are always hurt. Is Evin

1709
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: Ingram any good? I mean? And he's one of the

1710
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: great teases in the league. And then the running back

1711
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been there. How can you evaluate Daniel Jones and

1712
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: what's around him right now? You can't? Well can you?

1713
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: I can say the same thing about Sam Donald, But

1714
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 1: there's a difference. The Jets will be getting Trevor Lawrence

1715
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: where the second team will be getting Justin Field. So

1716
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: you think it's that big a drop off between fields?

1717
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: And I gotta do more work on The more I

1718
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: watch fields, the more I like them. He's really athletic,

1719
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 1: oh unreal, and he's a good arm I mean. The

1720
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: hard part to evaluating Justin Fields no one's ever near him. Well.

1721
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: The other thing about Justin Fields is the book on him?

1722
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: Is he locks on a little bit? Did you watch

1723
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Saturday night? I was driving. Did you watch it Saturday

1724
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 1: night against Penn State? Yeah? I want I watched of it.

1725
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: He can do it. Yeah, yeah, you can throw. It's

1726
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: like seven seven watching him back there. Yeah, and he's

1727
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: got good receivers that a lot of as a good receiver.

1728
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard to evaluate him. So there you haven't.

1729
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: He looks the part, there's no doubt about that. And

1730
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: and the way the game is played today with your

1731
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: quarterback needing to move around a little bit, he could

1732
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: do it. What what? What kind of Like here's what

1733
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about either Lawrence for fields, Like are

1734
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: they leaders? Good kids? I mean supposed really good. Both

1735
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: of them both love love football, Like, yeah, that's what

1736
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: you want. You gotta have your quarterback. If you're gonna

1737
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: draft a guy that high, he has to be competitive

1738
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 1: and loved ball and just wants to be the bets. Well,

1739
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,919
Speaker 1: don't remember that was kind of the book on Herbert

1740
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: and Oregon was that he wasn't that guy, which was

1741
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: not true. It turned off to be not true because

1742
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: guys I know went in there and they said he

1743
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: was the alpha guy. You want an alpha. You guy

1744
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: has to be an alpha. He's gotta love it, live it,

1745
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: be an alpha. Yeah, and if he is, then and

1746
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: he's good, then he's gonna be good. All right, let's

1747
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: come back. We'll go around the National Football League recap

1748
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: the games from yesterday. In Week eight, the Jags were

1749
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Speaker 1: not among those. They were off Week nine. Coming up

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Speaker 1: the cocktail parties the day before this year, back to

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Speaker 1: back games in the stadium first time. I think that's

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Speaker 1: how many fans could be at the cocktail party. I

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01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 1: think it's about the same. Yep. So there's not gonna

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01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 1: be any games this year where there's half capacity in

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Speaker 1: any stadium this year at all. What the Cowboys? What

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys trying to do that they were I don't

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Speaker 1: think they did they Yeah, so even if they said

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Speaker 1: half capacity, it would be a quarter and they're still

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Speaker 1: and they're still in contention. That's strange. It's amazing. Let's

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Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and some of the

1821
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: scores from yesterday. The Steelers are undefeated still seven and

1822
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Speaker 1: oh after the win over the Now I have them

1823
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 1: two Ravens and a really good football game yesterday, Pete.

1824
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Best team in the league, most complete team in the league.

1825
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Can throw, it can run, it can play good defense. Uh,

1826
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I've surprised me because the Ravens ran all

1827
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: over them. I didn't think they would. But they can't.

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01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: The Ravens don't pass it well enough. Two bad turnovers,

1829
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: two bad picks. Want to pick six and one. With

1830
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: the game seventeen seven, you have the ball ready to

1831
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: go make seven. He turned it over on a terrible

1832
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: interception and then they went in point black made it

1833
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: seventeen four. Team Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that

1834
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 1: defense got exposed with but they got ran all over

1835
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: when they gave up. But you know how that you

1836
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: know how that is when you play that that scheme

1837
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it's different than just lining up and running on them.

1838
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: That's fine, but I'm just I mean, listen, I think

1839
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers are the best team they have, but they're

1840
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 1: not the best team in the NFL. Who's the best

1841
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. The team playing tonight, the Bucks. Baby,

1842
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 1: you might be right. That's that. If I had to

1843
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,719
Speaker 1: pick a Super Bowl right now, it's Steelers Buck, Steelers Bucks,

1844
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: that would be interesting topic. You're just discounting the Chiefs.

1845
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Come on, you, you know that guy could get hot

1846
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: and as I could be. Don't do that, Okay. If

1847
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: the game is in Pittsburgh, the NFC Championship game, I

1848
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 1: guess there's no fans, doesn't matter. It might be cold,

1849
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,600
Speaker 1: it might be cold, it might be told and the

1850
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: guy plays in the gold so it's not it doesn't matter.

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01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: You could be cold in Kansas City too. That's that's

1852
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 1: why you were there with me last year in the

1853
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 1: championship game? Is its gonna be any colder than that one?

1854
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,879
Speaker 1: And here and here's the here's the We can discuss

1855
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Speaker 1: this later. So I know I'm gonna screw up everything

1856
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 1: JP's trying to do. Do they go into a bubble

1857
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: for the playoffs where they play it? Uh, pick a

1858
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Speaker 1: couple of sites and keep the teams there to make

1859
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 1: sure there's because you can't like if you get the pointoffs,

1860
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: you can't cancel games because the COVID, But you gotta

1861
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: make sure everyone's walked down. Yeah, I don't know. They think, no,

1862
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: consider it depending on how bad it is. Talk the

1863
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 1: Bills over the Patriot one. The Bills now are six

1864
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: and two feet your guy, Josh Allen, Yeah, but that's

1865
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: not the story. The story is the Patriots are bad.

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01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: That's a bad team. Yeah, but the Bills have been

1867
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 1: playing that close. I actually lost a little bit of respect.

1868
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean as far as where I put them in

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Speaker 1: the list of good teeth for the Bills to play

1870
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: that team that close, and if Cam Newton doesn't fumble,

1871
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 1: it might have been a different game. The other thing

1872
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 1: is the Bills can't stop to run all of us.

1873
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had problems all year, but it's getting worse.

1874
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: They gotta be able to stop them. Run the Raiders

1875
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 1: over the Brown six team to six ten points in

1876
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter from Las Vegas. Don't worry, it'll be

1877
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: better without Odell Beckham. Maker may feel plays better without

1878
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Remember all that talk last week. No, you don't, no,

1879
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: you don't. You want stars on the field, you don't

1880
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: play better without them. The Browns are teeth. Just when

1881
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you think you're ready to say okay, here come the

1882
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Brown playoff team, You're loosing the Raiders at home. That

1883
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 1: should never happen, and the Rangers have been terrible on deefense.

1884
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: They could to gorny points the Browns. Yeah, I agree, right,

1885
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean not much to that there. I mean I

1886
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: said week. Anyone who says you're better without really good players, right,

1887
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know that. You don't know the game, right. The

1888
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: Vikings knocked off the Packers two. What is this? The

1889
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: Green Bay couldn't stop the run, the same thing that

1890
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: happened in the championship game last year to the forty Niners.

1891
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran for hundred seventy yards and seventy They

1892
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: couldn't tackle him. It was unbelievable. And that's not a

1893
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: very good offensive line. That's a little offensive line. That's

1894
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 1: surprising to me at least when they got beat by

1895
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 1: the Ers, a big, good physical offensive line with that

1896
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: great scheme. I mean, the Vikings just dominated him. Dalvin

1897
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Cook four touches the same scheme though now with Prubiac

1898
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: running a similar very similar do they now? They played

1899
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: the Niners this week in uh in San Francisco to

1900
01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: the Packers Thursday night. Yeah, but the problem is the me,

1901
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,879
Speaker 1: who are the Niners gonna roll out there. No Jimmy Garofolo,

1902
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: no George Kittle, the ball on the backers in that game,

1903
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: the Mighty Wing just twin rest of the season. Think

1904
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: about the guys, the Niners a lost Bosa, he boards out,

1905
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, Richard Sherman hasn't played uh Kittle, most dirt

1906
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: now Garoppolo. He both said, Wow, the achieves over the

1907
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Jets and an easy one thirty five to nine. This

1908
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: was we saw this one coming. Well, you blitz, you

1909
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: blitz him the way they blitz. Come on. Great. Williams

1910
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: likes to blitz. He likes to attack and pack the

1911
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: homes kills it, just like he did against Baltimore. He

1912
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 1: will kill the blitz. Yeah. Do we really need to

1913
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: talk about this game? Remember the Levan Bell revenge game

1914
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: and he had like three carry's great yards or something.

1915
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: To his debut in Miami, he was twelve and twenty

1916
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: two for ninety three yards passing, had a touchdown. He

1917
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 1: also had a sack fumble on his opening past attempt

1918
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 1: and what would have been his opening pass attempt in

1919
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. He was just average as they come. Didn't

1920
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: have to do anything. Was that the rams On a

1921
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 1: short week and a long trip. I mean, was that

1922
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: what that was? Or was that Bryan Flores who used

1923
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: the same defense that he used in the Super Bowl

1924
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: when he was a defensive coordinator for the for the Patriots,

1925
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: where he played that sixth man front, Tony, remember the

1926
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: sixth man front and then they go empty. Whenever they

1927
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: go empty, they blitzed it. It's exactly what they did.

1928
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: And they course golf was terrible. He turned the ball

1929
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: over four times in the first half. Yeah, I didn't

1930
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: see one snap of that game. I was playing golf

1931
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 1: and I came in. I saw the score. Like man,

1932
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 1: two of them us had a big day. They had

1933
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: a hundred yards of total offers in one. They got

1934
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: out game by three yards. Is a game watching it

1935
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 1: because you know you like the eye test. You watched

1936
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: two of what's your first takeaway from the first game?

1937
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: Couldn't couldn't, couldn't tell. You can't tell from that game,

1938
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell. He didn't have to do anything. He

1939
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: had to do nothing. Okay, when you dropped back, he

1940
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 1: dropped back twenty two times. What do you look like

1941
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: when you dropped back? He was okay? Fall out quick

1942
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 1: before I'm standing there waiting for throws and developed. But again,

1943
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 1: when you're up that big and you get in the game,

1944
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 1: just tell them they'll turn it over. They had a

1945
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 1: they had a sack fumble for touchdown, they had a

1946
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: party turn for a touchdown, and then they had a

1947
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown run that was set up on a

1948
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: fumble return return to the one yard line. I mean,

1949
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: you can't can't screw that up. True, So the Dolphins win.

1950
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: The Broncos got a fourth down pass interference and then

1951
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: scored on the final play of the game the extra

1952
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 1: point wanted thirty one to thirty over the Chargers. The

1953
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: Charges will find new and creative ways to lose games

1954
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: and lose. It's amazing. It's amazing how they always find

1955
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: a way to lose. They had no business losing that game. None.

1956
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Have you giving up leeds this year? Seventeen twice, sixteen,

1957
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 1: once and twenty one now four times? Is Anthony Lynn

1958
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: in trouble? Yes, yes, I would agree. Saints over the

1959
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Bears three. There was a big fight on the field.

1960
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: Vanna Williams getting two games without pay today after the

1961
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: not really a fight. It was a one way punching fest. Well,

1962
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: he said that Jaunty Garden Johnson spit in his face

1963
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: and pulled his his mouthpiece out, And you can see

1964
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: how to play before where Jaunty Gardener Johnson goes over

1965
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and pulls his mouthpiece out. He rips it out. So

1966
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: whether he spit on him, who knows, but he waited

1967
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: a play. Remember, Chauncey Gardner Johnson is the same guy

1968
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 1: that got in the practice fight with Michael Thomas when

1969
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: he got to atended. So masically he's a good instigator.

1970
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: You can get maybe, you know, but if you're wins,

1971
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: you gotta be smarter than that. That's just do it

1972
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: during the play. Take a cheap shot so you get

1973
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: just fifteen yards, like do at the bottom of the pile,

1974
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: take a shot here or there. But you can't, I mean,

1975
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you just can't walk up to the guy and started

1976
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: throwing bolos on him. And it wasn't like he just

1977
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: like pushed his head out. It was like he was

1978
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: doing like round bomber, boom boom. It was bad, Yes,

1979
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: it was yeah, that was yeah. There's nothing worse when

1980
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 1: you're a scrub and you do something like that. Though

1981
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Who are you? I

1982
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: mean it was. It was interesting, that's for sure. Seahawks

1983
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 1: over the forty nine thirty seven seven. The Eagles over

1984
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys last night twenty three to nine. I went

1985
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: to bed. I'm watching Oh my God, and Wench was

1986
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: awful too. But every time they tried to throw past

1987
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 1: the wind with Day it was terrible all over the

1988
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: league yesterday in the Northeast, the wind was terrible. It

1989
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: was awful. Watching football in Green Bay. Cleveland had like

1990
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: sleet at one point. Uh yeah, it was pretty grosses.

1991
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that time for Monday night football.

1992
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: The five and two Tampa Bay Buccanteers, led by the

1993
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: goat quarterback Tom Brady. They're facing a team that beat

1994
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Brady and two Super Bowls. This is far from the

1995
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 1: same New York Football giants there one in six, but

1996
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: trying to battle through somehow. Who you got tonight at

1997
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, I mean J J P.

1998
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 1: First of all, I need more energy. That was a

1999
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: week there was no energy there was That was my

2000
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 1: own energy. Like I didn't like it, Like that was awful. Um.

2001
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I know you're not excited about this because the Giants

2002
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: are terrible and Theers are gonna kill him. But still

2003
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: I need more energy out of you. That was embarrassing. Frankly,

2004
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: he gave you the Doug Moron today. Energy. It's contagious.

2005
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Are you in the building? JP? The five? Yes? I

2006
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: am the five and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers must be.

2007
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 1: It's in the system, led by the goat quarterback Tom

2008
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 1: Brady facing the New York Football Giants. So this is

2009
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: what it sounded like, very monitory. Usually, JP, you bring

2010
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: it down from the y Who do you have tonight

2011
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football? Ye? Pull it out? DJ? Would

2012
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 1: you please tell us what's the matter. You're not feeling good?

2013
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: I feel great good. I thought I brought it. That's okay,

2014
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: obviously not. I'll get it next week. Work on that

2015
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: for the week. We're not sure. We're not sure. You're

2016
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna let you. We're gonna let you do it next week, Peter,

2017
01:58:54,720 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: I might take over. Thank you screaming yeah, y'all take

2018
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: turns doing this. How about that? I like that idea? No,

2019
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 1: I like the buck. Come on, that's an easy gad.

2020
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: This Sunday night, though they play this night Sunday Night,

2021
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 1: did get caught a little bit. Tom Brady doesn't take

2022
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: your head all right, boys, people talk to you, Tony,

2023
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you, okay, see you later, all right,

2024
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 1: Pete Bristo, Tony VA, Silly Jack, Jaguars Happy Hour, the

2025
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. There you go, There you go.