Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and show Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: Remember, as part of this deal there is this economic
Speaker 3: leverage on the Iranian regime. They're not going to get
Speaker 3: the sanctions relief that they so desperately want and need
Speaker 3: if the United States doesn't get everything they want out
Speaker 3: of these detailed negotiations.
Speaker 4: So that's tree Yinks of Fox, who's got a completely
Speaker 4: different take on what the deal that was struck with
Speaker 4: Iran is than CNN and MSNBC have. And I don't
Speaker 4: understand how any of them have the details since the
Speaker 4: details aren't out. But is talking about this earlier. I
Speaker 4: don't have a take on this Trump announcer's deal. The
Speaker 4: war is over, we have a deal, but.
Speaker 2: The details haven't been released.
Speaker 4: So I don't have an opinion whether it's a good
Speaker 4: deal or not because I don't know what the details are.
Speaker 4: But as I was bouncing around the cable channels yesterday
Speaker 4: running errands endless commentary on CNN, m of MSNBC and CNN,
Speaker 4: the lefty channels of how awful this deal is how
Speaker 4: Trump got taken for a ride. Iran comes out of
Speaker 4: this better than they started, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Fox was the opposite. We got what we wanted.
Speaker 4: Iran really, you know, forced into a situation they didn't want,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And I don't know how anybody is coming
Speaker 4: to any of these conclusions based on the fact that
Speaker 4: the details are still out.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: That's Trey saying that Iran won't get what they want
Speaker 4: until what we get what we want. I hope that's true,
Speaker 4: but that's not out yet. As far as I knows.
Speaker 4: He's got some sources nobody knows about anyway. So let's
Speaker 4: let Tray lay it out here and then we can
Speaker 4: talk about it.
Speaker 3: When we look at this agreement, the Iridians didn't get
Speaker 3: what they wanted. They wanted you US forces to leave
Speaker 3: the Middle East completely and abandon all bases in the region,
Speaker 3: and that's not going to happen. As part of this deal.
Speaker 3: We know that US forces are going to remain at
Speaker 3: the fifth Fleet location in Bahrain for the US Navy,
Speaker 3: also the alluded base outside of the Katari capital of Doha.
Speaker 3: There are thousands of US forces there, and so even
Speaker 3: if there is an eventual drawdown of the US military
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, there will still be thousands of
Speaker 3: forces here prepared if the President has to use military
Speaker 3: action in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, the problem with that is the guy who makes
Speaker 4: that decision is not willing to do it, I don't think,
Speaker 4: and gets less willing every day that goes by. So
Speaker 4: while that's true that Iran wanted US to pull all
Speaker 4: our forces out, they can probably live with the forces
Speaker 4: being there because Trump's not willing to do it.
Speaker 2: Correct, what if I'm wrong?
Speaker 5: Since this is not a deal and it's not a
Speaker 5: peace agreement, it's a framework for negotiating on agreement over
Speaker 5: the next sixty days. So in what way is this
Speaker 5: not just another ceasefire but with a unalleged framework to negotiate,
Speaker 5: which is fine. If it works, it'll be great.
Speaker 4: So I was taking all this in in real time
Speaker 4: yesterday because I was running around doing stuff and listening
Speaker 4: to your news channels, and they announced Trump has just
Speaker 4: posted the truth. Social gentlemen, start your motors. The strait
Speaker 4: is open for shipping once again. And so that was
Speaker 4: the conversation on all the cable news channels for twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: The Strait is now open, so it's just a matter
Speaker 4: of minutes or hours. Now, nobody exactly knows how this works,
Speaker 4: but the strait is open, and the ships well, the
Speaker 4: way we'll start flowing.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Twenty minutes later.
Speaker 4: He puts out a different truth social post saying the
Speaker 4: Strait will be open this Friday. So as soon as
Speaker 4: we signed the deal, this Straight is open, not even
Speaker 4: referencing the fact that he had twenty minutes earlier.
Speaker 2: The Strait is now open.
Speaker 5: And one more twist, Trump had said the deal meant
Speaker 5: the Straight would be permanently toll free. That's a quote,
Speaker 5: but Iran's Foreign Ministry immediately suggested today that Iran could
Speaker 5: charge fees in exchange for the services that are provided
Speaker 5: that shifts transmitting the Strait.
Speaker 4: That gets to Lindsey Graham's complaint. Senator Lindsay Grahm that
Speaker 4: I'm troubled by the fact that Iran is.
Speaker 2: Saying different things than we're saying. Yes, let me RecA
Speaker 2: the whole of fees.
Speaker 5: It's navigation fees and we're not charging a toll, but
Speaker 5: we're going to help you not to hit a mind.
Speaker 5: So you got to pay us up and be a
Speaker 5: shame of something happened to that nice tanker of yours.
Speaker 2: It's tolls.
Speaker 4: Well, if they get to do that or start doing
Speaker 4: that and nobody stops them, then that's a huge loss
Speaker 4: because you know, that argument really holds water. The strait
Speaker 4: was opened before the war started, so opening it is
Speaker 4: not exactly a win.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: And then if it's not open in the same way
Speaker 4: and they're charging tolls, that's it's definitely a step backwards.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: This is what Mark Alpern wrote in his newsletter today
Speaker 4: with all his sources. That leads to the central question
Speaker 4: hanging over everything. The administration says economical relief will come
Speaker 4: only after Iran destroys a timely enriched uranium, renounces any
Speaker 4: pursuit of nuclear weapons, and submits to meaningful verification.
Speaker 2: We get all that stuff. I think it's a clear win.
Speaker 4: If that sequence holds, Trump will be able to argue
Speaker 4: that he extracted major concessions before offering major rewards. But
Speaker 4: if money starts flowing earlier through sanctions, relief, access to
Speaker 4: frozen assets, or even direct payments, the politics and the
Speaker 4: substance of the agreement look very different.
Speaker 2: The cliche is true. Here the devil is.
Speaker 4: Always in the details, and at this moment, the most
Speaker 4: important detail is also the simplest one.
Speaker 2: Who gives up what first?
Speaker 4: Nobody knows, So I don't know how anybody is commenting
Speaker 4: on whether this is a good deal or not.
Speaker 5: Who gets what first? That is the question. It's not
Speaker 5: a minor point either. Yes, if it's the answer is
Speaker 5: the right one, then you start to think, yeah, right,
Speaker 5: we might be able to strong arm them and agree
Speaker 5: in what we need to have them agree to. But
Speaker 5: if it's not, then this whole thing is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Jd Vance on Iran. This is today.
Speaker 4: We're hearing from both the reigning hardliners and political leaders
Speaker 4: that the past forty seven years of hostility with the
Speaker 4: United States have been a mistake and it's time to
Speaker 4: turn a new page.
Speaker 2: Does Joe Getti believe that? I don't.
Speaker 4: I do not believe that. I don't even believe they're
Speaker 4: saying it. And if they say it, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't necessarily mean they mean it.
Speaker 4: I don't even believe that. I don't even believe that
Speaker 4: the Republican guard is saying this. The I think the
Speaker 4: game that the Trump crowd has been playing all along
Speaker 4: through this as they listened. Because there's lots of different
Speaker 4: voices coming out of Iran. They listened to the voices
Speaker 4: that they that they want to listen to, and ignore
Speaker 4: the ones they don't want to listen to, regardless of
Speaker 4: who actually holds the power at any point.
Speaker 5: I wonder, I wonder from the Saturday Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 5: the Iranian enforcer driving Tehran's hard bargaining with the US.
Speaker 5: The pugilistic new paramilitary commander is seen as a power broker,
Speaker 5: asserting control over negotiations even as the two sides appear
Speaker 5: near a deal. This guy, Ahmad Vahidi had overruled the moderates,
Speaker 5: who said, hey, let's call off the dogs, let's not
Speaker 5: fire missiles at Israel, all right, And he's like, the hell,
Speaker 5: we're not more moderate voices one to hold off, But
Speaker 5: Vhiti won the argument, persuading Around's top security council to
Speaker 5: back the strikes and setting off the first exchange of
Speaker 5: fire between Iran and Israel since ceasefire on April eighth.
Speaker 5: And that was just a couple of days ago. And
Speaker 5: he seems to be the alpha dog this point.
Speaker 2: So do you think this Bahiti dude?
Speaker 4: Said the Port passed forty seven years of hostility with
Speaker 4: the United States had been a mistake.
Speaker 2: On absolutely not no, no, well, I think what he
Speaker 2: his opinion seems to matter to me.
Speaker 5: He has been sanctioned by the US for helping oversee
Speaker 5: a crackdown on protests over women's rights in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5: So he headed up the beating, jailing, and raping of
Speaker 5: the women who dared show their hair. He's wanted by
Speaker 5: inter poll for a deadly attack on Jews in Argentina,
Speaker 5: which was when was that two? The year two thousand
Speaker 5: and seven, I'm sorry, that's when he was issued to
Speaker 5: the arrest warrant.
Speaker 2: Back in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: He headed up the bombing of a Jewish community center
Speaker 5: in Buenos Aires that killed eighty five and injured hundreds more.
Speaker 5: Heads up the Republican This guy is is hard. He
Speaker 5: is a brute and a monster as No, No, I
Speaker 5: don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 2: I don't know I wanted to say that.
Speaker 5: So why did jd Vance say that? I think you
Speaker 5: explained God, I can't even say. It's hard to get
Speaker 5: these words to come out of my mouth. I think
Speaker 5: you nailed it. They believe who they want to believe
Speaker 5: and what they want to believe.
Speaker 2: And hope that those people emerge as the leaders. And
Speaker 2: Trump is trusting his gut or what. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I really don't. For now, there is only one next step.
Speaker 4: Mark Alpern writes Friday's signing ceremony could prove historic, or
Speaker 4: it could prove merely ceremonial, or.
Speaker 2: It might not happen at all.
Speaker 5: I would bet money it doesn't happen. I'll challenge you
Speaker 5: to a ten dollars bet. You didn't take me up
Speaker 5: on that. You put more money where your mouth is.
Speaker 5: Ten dollars right, son, ten dollars cash on the barrelid
Speaker 5: Alex Hamilton, green money us Hamilton, give me pasos or anything?
Speaker 2: Is he? I think he is.
Speaker 4: Kids and I were talking about the other day with
Speaker 4: inflation and everything like that, why isn't the fifty becoming
Speaker 4: a bigger thing? Why isn't the fifty like is prevalent
Speaker 4: his twenties since it's what a twenty dollar bill was
Speaker 4: in the nineties.
Speaker 2: All I wont know why that is? Nobody uses cash
Speaker 2: at all or not much? I don't know.
Speaker 4: And I was explaining to now my kids, how you
Speaker 4: just never saw a hundred dollars bill when I was
Speaker 4: a kid.
Speaker 2: Oh, we were watching I know what it was.
Speaker 4: We were watching a movie and I am No Country
Speaker 4: for old Men, which was set in nineteen eighty. And
Speaker 4: they're regularly given a hundred dollar bills to various people
Speaker 4: to make get them to do things like here, keep
Speaker 4: your mouth shut. Here's one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: And I was explaining to my kid's house that was
Speaker 2: a lot of money.
Speaker 4: I didn't actually go to the inflation calculator, but I
Speaker 4: might have been like a thousand dollars in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: It has been a lot compared to now. You see
Speaker 4: hundred bill dollar bills now, well, you see signs at
Speaker 4: convenience stores won't take a hundred dollar bills. There was
Speaker 4: no chance anybody was going to the convenience store. What
Speaker 4: one hundred dollar bill when I was a kid. But
Speaker 4: I just wonder why fifties haven't become a thing and
Speaker 4: ones are practically worthless.
Speaker 2: They're going to become the penny.
Speaker 5: Soon, gallon of milk, loaf of bread, and I don't
Speaker 5: know what else there a pair of work gloves. You
Speaker 5: spend one hundred dollars these days thanks Biden easily. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I will have to wait and see. So I've got
Speaker 5: I want to make this clear. I am betting ten
Speaker 5: dollars that they will have the signing ceremony on Friday,
Speaker 5: not because I believe it, but because it's more fun
Speaker 5: if we take opposite sides. I've got to admit, I
Speaker 5: especially hearing about this Vahiti bloke, but I'm not optimistic
Speaker 5: about this at all.
Speaker 4: The thing that's going to blow it up I think
Speaker 4: most likely is Hesibal and a rant and Israel getting
Speaker 4: into it again.
Speaker 5: Right Trump should I'm glad you brought that up, and
Speaker 5: wish you hadn't in a way. Trump has got to
Speaker 5: make that a separate issue. No, that has nothing to
Speaker 5: do with what we're talking about. Totally different Isrel's problem.
Speaker 5: But he was tough on net Yahoo over the weekend.
Speaker 5: Not Yah, who is really good to deal tough to
Speaker 5: deal with. I can't remember precisely what he said, but
Speaker 5: implying that Netanya, who's really standing in the way of
Speaker 5: me getting this master deal with Iran?
Speaker 2: He said, Netanya who has no effing judgment. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would not buy stock.
Speaker 5: I would not wade into this IPO the peace with
Speaker 5: Iran IPO.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that Yahu has said to Trump or
Speaker 4: or any of the other presidents that he's ignored. Look,
Speaker 4: everything you talk about is theoretical. We actually have rockets
Speaker 4: raining down on our capital city. It's not theoretical for
Speaker 4: us at all.
Speaker 5: We're surrounded by people who want to slaughter us today
Speaker 5: by noon if they can do it. So helping you
Speaker 5: get your deal with Iran that's probably not worth the
Speaker 5: paper it's working on written on now.
Speaker 2: We're not going to go too far. Boy.
Speaker 4: I saw a good thing on Twitter last night. Somebody
Speaker 4: had put together about all the various land squabbles around
Speaker 4: the world, whether it's China to bet or Turkey and
Speaker 4: Cyprus all the and that college kids don't get worked
Speaker 4: up about at oil yep? Is it because it's the Jews?
Speaker 2: I mean, how else do you explain it?
Speaker 4: No Jews, no news interestings. Try more in the way
Speaker 4: stay here.
Speaker 6: A seven year old in Pennsylvania recently said a Guinness
Speaker 6: World record after putting on.
Speaker 3: Fifty sweaters because his dad made it very clear what
Speaker 3: would happen if he touched the thermostaff.
Speaker 4: What wow, white house versus anthropic We should get into
Speaker 4: that at some point. We haven't talked AI at all today.
Speaker 4: We will a little bit later.
Speaker 5: Your viral video of the day, which I haven't seen
Speaker 5: all of and don't really want to. We're talking about
Speaker 5: how furners are coming to America for the World Cup
Speaker 5: and loving it and having a wonderful time because in
Speaker 5: spite of some of the bad stuff that goes on
Speaker 5: in this country, it's mostly an amazing, beautiful, enormous place
Speaker 5: and they're enjoying it.
Speaker 2: Wealthy. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you are enjoying the pleasures of Brazil, perhaps
Speaker 5: you should refrain from bungee jumping until you watch a
Speaker 5: couple other folks go first. The video that was you
Speaker 5: kicking around last night and on the news. You'll probably
Speaker 5: see it whether you want it or not. Here's some
Speaker 5: twenty one year old gal visiting the sow Polo area
Speaker 5: and she jokingly wrote some on Instagram who was the
Speaker 5: crazy person who let me jump off a bridge? Well,
Speaker 5: the video is of the three guys with her up
Speaker 5: above their head saying one, two, three, and you can't
Speaker 5: help but notice there's no effing rope tied to her.
Speaker 5: They just heaved her to her death. The rope is
Speaker 5: coiled on the ground. The bungee, which is really one
Speaker 5: of the fundamental parts of bungee jumping, lay.
Speaker 2: There on the well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can. Hey, no helmet, that's fine,
Speaker 5: let's leave the helmet off. But by God, attached that bungee.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you I mean, it's not on her, it's on them.
Speaker 4: But wouldn't you notice if they didn't attach the bungee
Speaker 4: to you?
Speaker 5: The wedding filming could then be heard shouting, guys the rope,
Speaker 5: pointing to the crucial safety device laying on the ground.
Speaker 4: I think I would be really aware of the connection
Speaker 4: mechanism of the bungee to whatever harness I'm wearing or whatever.
Speaker 5: And yeah, and here are the standards of Brazilian bungee jumping.
Speaker 5: Six people have been interested following the incident, including three
Speaker 5: people at the scene of the jump too. The suspects
Speaker 5: tried to flee, but were ultimately tracked down by a
Speaker 5: helicopter in the wooded area, according to military police.
Speaker 4: So, I've never seen a bungee jumping where they pick
Speaker 4: you up and throw you. So they throw her off
Speaker 4: the bridge, Uh yeah, essentially, Yeah, like in a diving posture.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, America's overregulated, over you know, we desperately need tort reform,
Speaker 5: et cetera. There's a sweet spot somewhere between our thing
Speaker 5: and their thing.
Speaker 2: Something between.
Speaker 4: Kids can't play outside if it rained the day before
Speaker 4: because they might slip on the grass and tossing people.
Speaker 2: Off bridges without touching the bungee cord.
Speaker 5: Bo I'm glad I got into the bungee jumping in industry.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, say that again. The bungee jumping industry
Speaker 5: slaps forehead the bungee right, damn it?
Speaker 2: How bad do those guys feel?
Speaker 5: Her fiance was watching it all transpire to holy crap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't he notice him not attack Rope? I don't
Speaker 2: know where he was. He might have been, I don't
Speaker 2: know where he was. Ask him, Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a bad day. Anyway, more to come, totally different topic.
Speaker 2: Trust me, that's enough.
Speaker 6: Of that, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: Sixty three people arrested, four stabbings, one shooting, and a
Speaker 7: bus burnt to a crisp in New York City after
Speaker 7: the Knicks won the NBA Finals on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: So that's that's just reasonable.
Speaker 4: You get to destroy people and stab people and do
Speaker 4: all kinds of crazy stuff. If your team wins a championship.
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, we decided as a culture that that
Speaker 4: was okay.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: If you punished people strong enough, people would catch on
Speaker 4: that you can't do that.
Speaker 5: But so you reject my argument, and I'm not in
Speaker 5: favor of it. I'm just saying the law enforcement presence
Speaker 5: and action big enough to deal with that many people
Speaker 5: going nuts be like a war, and cities just think
Speaker 5: will absorb the loss.
Speaker 4: At this point, since you've allowed it to grow and
Speaker 4: grow year after year for decades. If you started from
Speaker 4: if you started from scratch, would anybody think our team won,
Speaker 4: So you get to burn down this building or this
Speaker 4: boss or whatever the hell?
Speaker 2: No, nobody would have anyway.
Speaker 4: By the way, I wanted to hit NBA fans with this.
Speaker 4: If you're thinking the key to fixing your bad team
Speaker 4: is get the number one pick. Jalen Brunson, who's one
Speaker 4: of the most impressive players I've seen in decades. The
Speaker 4: star of the New York Knicks, was the thirty third
Speaker 4: pick in the second round of the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2: Wow, and he is a stud. He is really he
Speaker 2: is quite the leader.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: I want to get back into the whole question of
Speaker 5: people who are acting like Elon Musk being on paper
Speaker 5: a trillionaire is somehow take away from them or a
Speaker 5: bad thing. I mean, the left the politicians are going
Speaker 5: crazy over that.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit later on.
Speaker 5: Oh and speaking of Elon and the big IPO and SpaceX,
Speaker 5: we've got a business expert who are going to talk
Speaker 5: to help explain, you know, what happened, how it went,
Speaker 5: what it means, and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Next hour.
Speaker 5: Speaking of the corporate world, it's interesting the never ending
Speaker 5: discussion of remote work and where it's going in the
Speaker 5: wake of COVID is continuing. There have been a number
Speaker 5: of big splashy company announcements that they were requiring employee
Speaker 5: excuse me, to spend more time in the office, home depot, Target,
Speaker 5: Microsoft three, m Intel more recently. But across the broader economy,
Speaker 5: evidence suggests that the return to the office is stalled out.
Speaker 5: From May to May last May to this May, the
Speaker 5: percentage of folks working, or the percentage of pay to
Speaker 5: full days worked from home, went from twenty seven percent
Speaker 5: oh two years ago to twenty six percent this year,
Speaker 5: so in two years, last two years, it's only moved
Speaker 5: by a percent. Before the pandemic, it was about seven
Speaker 5: percent for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking earlier about I was trying to
Speaker 4: remember the phrase bare minimum mondays that came out of
Speaker 4: the pandemic. It was a rejection of hustle culture that
Speaker 4: have been forced on us, forced upon us by evil capitalists.
Speaker 4: It was forced upon us by uh reality, That's what's
Speaker 4: forced it upon us. The fact that if you hustle,
Speaker 4: you will get ahead and have a better life, and
Speaker 4: have a better life and beat out the people that
Speaker 4: want the higher paying job, et.
Speaker 2: Cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Right, and when you're young and energetic, you apply that
Speaker 5: energy to improving your life. So when you're old and
Speaker 5: slow and apathetic, hello, you'll have a decent life.
Speaker 4: I saw the couple different articles over the weekend about
Speaker 4: the federal government and Thropic once again, and Thropic the
Speaker 4: AI company coming to a point of friction, and I
Speaker 4: don't quite understand everything that's going on there, but it is.
Speaker 4: It is a new world we're entering into where these
Speaker 4: AI companies are going to have powers that the government
Speaker 4: doesn't have. Right, and the government.
Speaker 2: Needs and the companies don't have to play ball.
Speaker 5: And recently they have tools that the government really doesn't
Speaker 5: want other governments to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's complicated, but it reminds me. I had
Speaker 4: a conversation over the weekend with a guy who is
Speaker 4: a college teacher, and he was he was happy to
Speaker 4: be done grade in finals and all kinds of different
Speaker 4: stuff like that. He was talking one about how quickly
Speaker 4: people's abilities atrophy once you start using AI.
Speaker 2: And you had this story a week or so ago,
Speaker 2: and he said he sees it. He has seen it
Speaker 2: in his.
Speaker 4: Classrooms over just the last couple of years, people's ability
Speaker 4: to write just disappearing. He said, first of all, everybody
Speaker 4: cheats with AI, everybody, and it's just like it's the
Speaker 4: biggest problem they've got going is trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to test people and what they've learned since they're
Speaker 4: all using AI. And in some classes you can there
Speaker 4: are ways to, you know, do the schoolwork in the
Speaker 4: classrooms so you can watch them, but in some things
Speaker 4: it's just not practical. And he said the tools are
Speaker 4: not good to detect AI use. And my point was
Speaker 4: they're never going to be I mean, whatever, whatever AI
Speaker 4: can create, AI can create something to obscure that creation.
Speaker 2: I think it's right. It's gonna be a never ending battle.
Speaker 5: The metaphor may not be perfect, but your intellectual muscles
Speaker 5: are like muscles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his atrophy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his point is just like not going to the gym,
Speaker 4: And I'm more worried about that than the whole The
Speaker 4: cheating thing is an interesting thing, and I don't know
Speaker 4: how you're ever gonna get a kid to write a
Speaker 4: turn paper ever.
Speaker 5: Again, I got to tell them they're just cheating themselves, Jack,
Speaker 5: that's number one.
Speaker 4: The exact point to them, or are they which was
Speaker 4: one of this college professor's points that the people that
Speaker 4: understand how to use AI to write are the people.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the future. So maybe that is what
Speaker 4: they should be learning. He doesn't know. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. Why would you hand write a proposal
Speaker 4: for your work anymore? If AI can do a better job,
Speaker 4: what you don't get extra points for that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Or create a PowerPoint presentation or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 4: So it's all very very confusing. But the most interesting
Speaker 4: part of to me was the atrophying part that he
Speaker 4: has seen it in students and in himself that he
Speaker 4: feels like his ability to do a math in a
Speaker 4: variety of things at the high level that he does
Speaker 4: have atrophied since AI has come along. I found that
Speaker 4: really troubling, and I related it to my driving thing
Speaker 4: that I always use an example.
Speaker 2: It's to the.
Speaker 4: Point because I got a self driving cyber truck with
Speaker 4: really good technology. I get in one of my vehicles
Speaker 4: without self driving, and it's like, oh my god, it
Speaker 4: just seems so a chore to have to pay attention. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's just my ability to do that is atrophied
Speaker 4: that quickly.
Speaker 5: And our generation is experiencing this differently than the youngster's
Speaker 5: coming up, as we often discuss, because you know, I've
Speaker 5: used AI to help with a couple of different projects,
Speaker 5: and I feel a sense of shame. Yeah that I
Speaker 5: told it, Hey, build me a log cabin. I tell
Speaker 5: you what, give me a backpa on that? Yeah, that's nice?
Speaker 5: And how about the move the chimney over there?
Speaker 2: Great? Okay? And then it builds it.
Speaker 5: Then do I get the same satisfaction as a guy
Speaker 5: who built a log cabin in the woods?
Speaker 2: No, not even close.
Speaker 5: And I feel lazy and like I've cheated somebody or
Speaker 5: something interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: This is all weird. Humans are doomed. I wouldn't worry
Speaker 5: about it, though, so you know, speaking of co I
Speaker 5: can't resist. I wasn't gonna do this, but I can't resist.
Speaker 5: I was going to talk about how the Pentagon is
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Speaker 5: and it's going pretty well in the early days. It's
Speaker 5: a huge priority. So more on that to come in
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Speaker 5: you remember zorn Mumdani endorsed this democratic socialist check in
Speaker 5: a New York City congressional primary. Her educational background is
Speaker 5: it's something She's actually a professor. She teaches impressionable young people.
Speaker 5: She co created a dei crazed college course that advocated
Speaker 5: for abolishing schools which it accused of fuelling genocide. Of course,
Speaker 5: white supremacy, of course, and settler colonialism, among other ills.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 5: She claims that American expansion, mobility, and citizenship could not
Speaker 5: be divorced from the violence of dispossession, enslavement, and genocide,
Speaker 5: and that the right to movement and citizenship movement could
Speaker 5: only maintain legitimacy by denying human dignity of black and
Speaker 5: indigenous people.
Speaker 2: So she was teaching at the City University.
Speaker 5: Of New York, Ah. She's a grad student. The syllabus
Speaker 5: for the class she created, Black Diasporic Visions, reads like
Speaker 5: a satire of extreme left academia. The syllabus in this course,
Speaker 5: we consider these constructions which are often despite within and
Speaker 5: at the intersections of instance, you know, you could stop
Speaker 5: right then, you really anybody with the nouns and verbs
Speaker 5: coming up that are almost it doesn't matter because you
Speaker 5: already know what you're dealing with.
Speaker 4: So James Lindsay says that they do that to be
Speaker 4: obscure on purpose.
Speaker 2: Is that what's going on there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so impenetrable. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Do they just have to sit there and take it right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I'll finish the sentence this time. The syllabus says,
Speaker 5: for Black Diasporic visions. In this course, we consider these constructions,
Speaker 5: which are often despite within and at the intersections of
Speaker 5: institutions and systems that impact education, the prison, industrial complex,
Speaker 5: food justice, public planning, preservation, legal personhood, and climate change.
Speaker 2: Oh you thought you.
Speaker 5: Thought you were going to get away without climate change
Speaker 5: being mentioned, didn't you?
Speaker 2: Well take it sent here and take it so.
Speaker 4: I like the way I can skim this sort of
Speaker 4: stuff and know if I'm about to, you know, if
Speaker 4: it's something I don't want to be involved with or
Speaker 4: read about or be next to.
Speaker 2: Some terms like food justice, that's all I need to hear. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm out on food justice. What the hell now? Jack?
Speaker 5: If you hung in there in the class In the
Speaker 5: week thirteen segment titled Resistance all caps Chevalier, this is
Speaker 5: the name of the woman we're discussing. She was a
Speaker 5: discustant for the research paper are We Ready for School Abolition?
Speaker 5: Thoughts and Practices of Radical Imaginary in Education?
Speaker 2: And I read that verbatim. She was a discustant.
Speaker 4: So we want to perhaps do away with public education
Speaker 4: and rebuild it from the ground up.
Speaker 2: Why does she want to do it? Well?
Speaker 5: The paper that they're going to discuss by the Marxist
Speaker 5: University of Illinois, Chicago, professor David Stovall calls for abolishing
Speaker 5: traditional schooling altogether and argues that schools are quote parallel
Speaker 5: to prisons, an unfalsifiable claim, because what the hell does
Speaker 5: that mean? And we'll get to there and our part
Speaker 5: and parcel of the larger projects of settler colonialism and
Speaker 5: white supremacy racism and helped to justify the genocidal practices
Speaker 5: of the nation State.
Speaker 2: School in its current form seeks.
Speaker 5: To impose the assumed beliefs and cultural values of white
Speaker 5: Western European Protestant, heterosexual, able bodied, cisgendered males as the
Speaker 5: normative standards.
Speaker 2: I feel like I could get.
Speaker 4: An A in one of those classes. Oh yeah, with
Speaker 4: little effort. I know exactly what they want me to do.
Speaker 2: M this is wan.
Speaker 4: I belong to them there, gobbledegook. Yeah, I'm old and
Speaker 4: a buddy of mine. He had a teacher at when
Speaker 4: we're in college, at like this, like comp two or
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 2: He had to write a paper.
Speaker 4: All he did is every time he came across a
Speaker 4: pronoun like he, he would say he or she, And
Speaker 4: the teacher loved that so much. He got an a
Speaker 4: just because he would always say he or she didn't
Speaker 4: matter what the content was of the writing, just playing
Speaker 4: that whole game.
Speaker 5: Finally, one of the resources mentioned in these syllabus, the
Speaker 5: Inner Hoe Uprising podcast, offers different episodes sectors that unpack
Speaker 5: problematic childhood songs.
Speaker 2: Animals Do Be Gay.
Speaker 5: A sector where hosts discuss queerness and gender and other
Speaker 5: animal species, and current political social issues that impact reproductive health,
Speaker 5: black women, non binary gender variant in queer folks, problematicmals
Speaker 5: do Be Gay.
Speaker 2: Problematic childhood songs.
Speaker 4: I knew Ring around the Rosie was all about settler colonialism.
Speaker 5: I knew Rosie was being oppressed by the white supremacists.
Speaker 6: All right, stay here, play am fascists.
Speaker 8: Let me put you straight.
Speaker 5: When you come for the rest of us, we'll fight
Speaker 5: you at the gate.
Speaker 2: And you will lose you.
Speaker 6: Fascist Blue.
Speaker 5: The Great and Ancient Bette Midler warbling Whatity Guthrie's classic
Speaker 5: all You Fascists from back when they were singing about
Speaker 5: actual fascists Jack. That was part of the Gaylass Star
Speaker 5: Studied Concert for the First Amendment held over the weekend
Speaker 5: in New York City. According to AI, it was a
Speaker 5: star studied ninety minute rally musical event.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the stars.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm pro First Amendment. Also, I'm just confusing too.
Speaker 5: It was essentially anti Trump, which we'll get to. Here's
Speaker 5: some of the stars with which it was studied. Bette Midler,
Speaker 5: Patty Smith, find songwriter, Rufus Wainwright, find songwriter, all very
Speaker 5: going to the ancient side here though, Julia Roberts, Lily
Speaker 5: Gladstone and Joy Read, among others. Anybody a star studied?
Speaker 5: Indeed sixty please eighty because if that music wasn't bad enough,
Speaker 5: here's more.
Speaker 8: I can't love a country that takes healthcare away.
Speaker 2: From me thirty first, Michael, damn it. Why do we
Speaker 2: have a plan If.
Speaker 5: You're not, I'm sorry, I've had too much coffee.
Speaker 6: No line is getting left behind this time. No line
Speaker 6: is getting.
Speaker 2: Not the goods time.
Speaker 6: No one's got it.
Speaker 2: That's enough. Not only was there, I want to get
Speaker 2: on board. Who's being left behind by what?
Speaker 5: Those who are left behind have are behind and have
Speaker 5: been left What do you not get? In addition to
Speaker 5: the fabulous music, there were stirring speeches like Young totally relevant,
Speaker 5: Robert de Niro, I can't.
Speaker 8: Love a country that takes healthcare away from millions of
Speaker 8: people and uses.
Speaker 2: That money to enrich their pals. In the Trump.
Speaker 8: Epstein class, I want to love my country again. I
Speaker 8: want my country back.
Speaker 5: Are you going to give Young and Hip Jack. I'm
Speaker 5: sure your boys have a poster of her up on
Speaker 5: the wall. It's Jane Fonda in the.
Speaker 2: Face of what's happening.
Speaker 1: We need our industry to be unified, activated, and unwilling
Speaker 1: to engage in anticipatory obedience.
Speaker 2: Did she say anticipatory obedience? Yes, still got the end.
Speaker 1: We stand together in defense of our right to free expression.
Speaker 1: They come for one of us, by God, they come
Speaker 1: for all of us.
Speaker 2: For yall.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Jane, I guess I should have looked into
Speaker 4: what the threat of this is. I don't understand what
Speaker 4: they're fighting, Jane Fonda, whose heyday was when I was
Speaker 4: still in diapers. Music has long been a tool to
Speaker 4: stand up to authoritarianism, said the young miss Fonda. And
Speaker 4: I am what's why are you flitting around like that?
Speaker 4: Your website sucks? Oh my god, it's a terrible website.
Speaker 4: All right, here we go, reader view.
Speaker 5: Music has long been a tool to stand up to
Speaker 5: authoritarianism and I am honored to spend the evening with
Speaker 5: these fiercely committed, talented, and brilliant people to celebrate our
Speaker 5: First Amendment rights. Just don't criticize the COVID lockdown, or
Speaker 5: vaccinations or anything like that, because we'll take them the
Speaker 5: hell right away. As we continue to watch bad faith
Speaker 5: leaders take more and more power, it's critical that we
Speaker 5: gather together, raise our voices, collectively, sing poorly, I added
Speaker 5: that part and stand united against this administration, have some
Speaker 5: fun while doing it.
Speaker 4: I get it's antri Trump, but I'm interested that the
Speaker 4: First Amendment is the point of.
Speaker 2: Rum shutting down free speech. Fool, What do you not
Speaker 2: get where when?
Speaker 4: Okay, I missed something, Armstrong and getty