WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off July 12th, 2023 (Ep. 708)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB.

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<v Speaker 2>It is me Joey b Joe Pi's Appia that of

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<v Speaker 2>course is the Welsh.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>A special audio only version of the MLB podcast over

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<v Speaker 2>at Fantasy Pros. We're going to be talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>MLB Draft that happened this weekend. And of course who

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<v Speaker 2>better at talk about this than the Welsh because he

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<v Speaker 2>is the host of Prospect One. He has gotten thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out of more Arizona Fall League bars then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know some prospects that have had maybe Brett Laurie and

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<v Speaker 2>the Welsh. Those are the two guys who have been

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<v Speaker 2>thrown out of the most AFL bars in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're Josh Hamilton maybe too lightly bring up Josh

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<v Speaker 3>Hamilton also too. Of course I was actually thrown out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thrown out of an AFL stadium during COVID year. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like a team threw me out while the

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<v Speaker 3>other team let me in. That's a fun restrictions and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy was like who are you and I was

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm the.

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh and he's like, get at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here almost verbatim on how it happened. But yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very excited. I have done tons of coverage talk with

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<v Speaker 3>James Anderson on my Prospect one show I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>draft coverage for CBS. These guys are imprinted in my

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<v Speaker 3>brain and I have already stayed up multiple nights Joe

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<v Speaker 3>almost past two am making sure I have over seventy

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<v Speaker 3>five of these guys' rank for Fantasy so I am

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<v Speaker 3>more and well prepared. But there's a lot of good

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<v Speaker 3>and fun stuff to talk about with these dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a Dynasty player, you should be following the

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<v Speaker 2>Welsho on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>It is at the Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have absolutely be checking our Dynasty rankings over

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy pros, and also go subscribe to Prospect one because

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<v Speaker 2>that is a heck of a show here and Welsh

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<v Speaker 2>does a great job. Let's talk about the Pirates with

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<v Speaker 2>the number one pick, Paul Skeens, your boy from LSU,

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<v Speaker 2>dominant college pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't too much.

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<v Speaker 2>To say here except that, look, I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>the Pittsburgh Pirates and you want to take a shot

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<v Speaker 2>on who could be the guy who makes it to

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<v Speaker 2>the big leagues very quickly. We've seen these college pitchers

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<v Speaker 2>have a quicker path he was brilliant at LSU, brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>the College World Series, striking out everybody, and he has

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<v Speaker 2>got certainly big, giant upside at the major league level.

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<v Speaker 2>So schemes, your evaluation, where he landed, What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we almost didn't think it was gonna happen. There

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<v Speaker 3>were lots of rumors that he was locked to Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>the Pirates might cut a deal. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, kind of everybody did right. The best top

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<v Speaker 3>five players went in the top five, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a different order. You know, for fantasy. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really a very big dealing cruise guy, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>go wrong with Paul Skeins, and I think in different

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<v Speaker 3>formats you could justify him being the number one first

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<v Speaker 3>year player guy points league A points pitchers makes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't walk big strikeouts. Even in maybe deeper leagues where

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<v Speaker 3>pitching is really held tightly, you could look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is pitching in fantasy is kind of a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're looking at a guy fifteen point three k

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<v Speaker 3>per nine last year, struck out two hundred and nine

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<v Speaker 3>with a sub to era we had Lance Brosdowski. I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned this in some other places. But he did an

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<v Speaker 3>awesome breakdown where he was able to give us some

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<v Speaker 3>underlying things we can't get in other places. Drive line

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<v Speaker 3>stuff plus numbers had a one thirty two on his fastball.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff plus one hundred is the median average, so one

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two means thirty two percent better than average. One

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two stuff plus on his fastball, one twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>on his slider. His fastball touches one hundred and two.

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<v Speaker 3>He sits around ninety ninety nine and commands it better

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<v Speaker 3>than any other guy. Also attacks the zone. His slider

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<v Speaker 3>had a sixty six percent swinging with miss rate last

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<v Speaker 3>year in college, and fifty six percent on his change up,

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<v Speaker 3>which hits around eighty eight, probably because at fastball is

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<v Speaker 3>so dominant. Here's the deal. One of the best pitchers

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen in college and in the prospect world. He's

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<v Speaker 3>immediately going into my number one pitching prospect on my

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy board. He can come up sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 3>But he has a pitching prospect which makes him dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's a top three first year player guy in

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<v Speaker 3>any regard in fantasy, regardless of him being a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the college pitchers usually I feel much better about

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<v Speaker 2>They tend to be a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the end of all.

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<v Speaker 3>He pitched a lot in games. That's what people were

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<v Speaker 3>worried about Joe one hundred and twenty. Every single outing

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<v Speaker 3>that has worried about the usage on his arm. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to focus on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand me.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing when I watch Skeen's pitch is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>big legged guy, you know, good, powerful leg driven sort

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<v Speaker 2>of situation there where you look at the delivery and

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<v Speaker 2>watching him pitch, the delivery is very easy. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a guy like I'm you see, some guys like Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Kopek always looked like he was giving everything he had

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<v Speaker 2>to get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball up to one hundred and one miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeen doesn't look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Skeens just kind of roars back and he's just firing

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<v Speaker 2>balls at you. And it's a very simple delivery that

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<v Speaker 2>he's got, which I also think is really interesting too.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of extra movement here, very simple

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<v Speaker 2>to home plate.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the control has been very good.

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<v Speaker 2>But to me, I look at that and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of issues where I'm looking at him mechanically,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm worried about him breaking down early in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>And some pitchers you do, you do look at them,

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at the track record of the usage

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<v Speaker 2>and you get concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that's interesting about what you're saying

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<v Speaker 3>just really quickly on him is he has an kind

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<v Speaker 3>of abnormal extension on how he throws. And that extension

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<v Speaker 3>it looks more similar to Bruce dark gaderol Hazu's Lozardo.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happened is this change when he went from

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<v Speaker 3>Air Force to LSU and in that change he added

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<v Speaker 3>velo a ton. He added over five miles per hour

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<v Speaker 3>on his slider in this new way that he's throwing.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is, though it's not a baseball optimized extension

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<v Speaker 3>of how he throws, it has optimized him. He does

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<v Speaker 3>make it look easy. It is repeatable, and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy to bet on and that's what, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>everything works in a way that is optimized to the fullest,

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<v Speaker 3>and to see those big changes, he just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>want to bet on it. And you also know this

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<v Speaker 3>arm is going to be in the major sooner rather

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<v Speaker 3>than later.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about the number two pick. Here

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<v Speaker 2>to the Washington Nationals outfielder Dylan Cruz. Some people thought

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<v Speaker 2>he might go number one overall ended up being Schiens instead.

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<v Speaker 2>People said that Cruz might not want to sign with

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh or may want to make them pay way over slot.

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<v Speaker 2>He slash four oh five, five forty five, six eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five with more walks than K's and that is a

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<v Speaker 2>tough thing to do for any young hitter. But another

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<v Speaker 2>ls you gem here that team was absolutely loaded. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about Dylan Cruz. The upside clearly a very

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<v Speaker 2>high level grade he gets on a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>especially that hit grade looking at seventy along with the

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<v Speaker 2>power tools.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your evaluation of Cruz?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, funny enough, there's not going to be an agreement.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think on the first year player in a

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<v Speaker 3>good way. There are three incredibly top heavy guys that

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<v Speaker 3>people are going to value, but people are going to

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<v Speaker 3>do it differently. I know some people have talked to

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<v Speaker 3>James Anderson at REALUIR. He likes White Langford because the

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<v Speaker 3>hit tool is viewed around sixty much bigger. Power had

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<v Speaker 3>a better slugging percentage than Cruise and runs a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit Cruise didn't really run a little a ton in college,

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<v Speaker 3>which you kind of wish he would a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more because he only still six bases. He could steal more.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm Dylan Cruse. Some will have Sciens, some will

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<v Speaker 3>have Langford. I'm Dylan Cruz. Nobody barrows up the ball

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<v Speaker 3>like him. He had a fascinating ninety five point seven

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<v Speaker 3>average exit velocity. That's the average on the ball major League.

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<v Speaker 3>That's usually around ninety or so. He barrels up the

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<v Speaker 3>ball better than anybody makes consistent contact. Is hitting opposite

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<v Speaker 3>field stuff one hundred and seven miles per hour more so,

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<v Speaker 3>it is optimized swing, pitch recognition, barreling. He doesn't strike out,

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<v Speaker 3>he walks. This is a complete package. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>floor is high. He could just be a twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>homer hitter, maybe ten to fifteen stolen bases while hitting

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred or I think he could go even higher

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<v Speaker 3>and he could be a guy that hits thirty homers,

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<v Speaker 3>steals twenty bases, hits over three hundred, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>hundred type of guy, second first round talent. I'm betting

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<v Speaker 3>on Dylan Cruiz because I think the floor is immense.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's my number one first year player.

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<v Speaker 2>the action. Yeah, I don't I don't blame you for

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that too. It's funny when you look at his

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<v Speaker 2>swing too. I would say a smaller version of Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Goldschmidt in the sense that he's sort of get he

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<v Speaker 2>does get lower, right, He's a little bit yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's not He's not as big as Goldschmid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, standing there at the play in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>a timidation factor, but in terms of the way he

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<v Speaker 2>follows through with the two hands of the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that long center field power that he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have to when you watch him, you see him

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<v Speaker 2>hit some of these balls where it's going out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's one of those rare things. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't see a lot of guys who have that middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the field power, and usually it comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's that really you know, strong contact skills, but

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<v Speaker 2>strong legs and is able to really drive the ball

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<v Speaker 2>out there to dead center field.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Astute catch on your part, because I haven't heard people

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I put the.

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<v Speaker 3>Comp in before Enosarus and I did a look and

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<v Speaker 3>actually this comp came up and I had said I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like him to Brian Reynolds. Brian Reynolds has

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<v Speaker 3>similar max evs of one twelve. He had an almost

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<v Speaker 3>ninety two average exit velocity on the lead year this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Homer's da da da, but Dylan Cruz is not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to mash the ball, which is just like

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Goldschmith. Paul Goldschmid is a doubles all all fields

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<v Speaker 3>contact type of guy and where.

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<v Speaker 1>You pitch it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was one of the things I always loved

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched Goldschmidt early in his career. He was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things like you throw down the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to hit it right back up the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's not trying to hit homers. He's not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to pull the ball and cruises the exact same way.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's in a stute catch on your part because

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<v Speaker 3>he is willing and trust his barreling to put the

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<v Speaker 3>ball anywhere it's And that's kind of where the question

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<v Speaker 3>is like what will that power end up looking like?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm willing to make the bet and take the

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<v Speaker 3>safety and cruise where I understand some might want Langford

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<v Speaker 3>for the power.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you're looking at the rest of the top ten,

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<v Speaker 2>who stands out to you from this draft here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean White Langford obviously is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>one of the bigger safer tools. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the top three when you're looking at the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten of what was drafted. It's actually gonna be really

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<v Speaker 3>weird because the number six overall pick, Jacob Wilson from GCU,

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<v Speaker 3>people are gonna want to push him up. I have

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<v Speaker 3>him down near the twenties of my first year player.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a sixty to sixty five hit tool grade, but

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<v Speaker 3>he has absolutely no power, eighty three average exit velocity,

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<v Speaker 3>his max was one oh two in college. He just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't He actually wanted a funny little comp It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like Luisa Rise high batting average, doesn't steal bases,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't hit for power, can score runs, and he's with

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<v Speaker 3>the A's. So that's gonna be one of those guys

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put down of the players that we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>on the top ten. Though, high school pitching is dangerous,

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<v Speaker 3>but I love Noble Meyer, six foot five high school

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<v Speaker 3>pitcher taken by the Marlins. Huge fastball, can hit triple digits,

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<v Speaker 3>power slider. They took the best high school righty and

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<v Speaker 3>the high school lefty and Thomas White later, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>a great organization to develop pitching. It's very dangerous to

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<v Speaker 3>make bets, especially in fantasy, on high school pitchers. But

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<v Speaker 3>if he falls, especially like out of a first round,

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<v Speaker 3>I really like noble Meyer. I think he could be phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a lot actually more interesting talent Joe in

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<v Speaker 3>players that weren't taken in the top ten for fantasy.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, the second half of my

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<v Speaker 3>top ten fantasy ranks did not go inside the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten of the actual MLB draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's always the thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, whenever we see high school players go, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the path to the major leagues is longer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more.

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<v Speaker 2>Downside ridden as well, because not only the injuries, but development,

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<v Speaker 2>the maturity level. There's so many things can go wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with an eighteen year old kid as opposed to a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one or twenty two year old kid who's going

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<v Speaker 2>into professional baseball. And it's if you chart it, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the success level, especially for pitchers, it's far less.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, sometimes these organizations still want to go

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<v Speaker 2>down that well. You know, when I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>White Langford, to me, the first guy here reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>right away it's a cop from the older days when

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties. But Tim Salmon is the guy that stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to me. Outfielder for the old California Angels and

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<v Speaker 2>then Los Angeles Angels. If Tim Salmon understood launch angle,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would be White Langford.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I see. Yeah, Wilangford bulked up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's I think a little bit smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny fun fact was.

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<v Speaker 2>A big guy like Salmon was one of these bigger

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<v Speaker 2>guys too. But watching them, as soon as he comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the play, the first thing I thought was, man,

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<v Speaker 2>he reminds me of Tim Salmon.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, Tim Salmon.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a really good major league career and he was

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<v Speaker 2>he was an All Star player. He was an important

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<v Speaker 2>piece of those good Angel teams around that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousands when they had their run to the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series and they beat the San Francisco Giants. But

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<v Speaker 2>to me, if you're gonna put a comp on a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>For the The fun fact is actually worked with Tim Samon.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a voiceover session with him, had his email

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and he was a great guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>White Langford six foot one, he's a big, bulky guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Also was able to cut his strikeouts down. Rangers are

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<v Speaker 3>ecstatic about it, and that's why he's kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>the top ten. But like I was saying before, you

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<v Speaker 3>know out, I love Noble Meyer of the top ten

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<v Speaker 3>picks that was taken, also like reht Louder command pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>for the Reds. But there are three guys that were

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<v Speaker 3>outside the top ten that are inside my top ten

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<v Speaker 3>and first year player and those three players are Chase Davis,

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<v Speaker 3>who went to the Saint Louis Cardinals, Matt Shaw, who

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<v Speaker 3>went to the Chicago Cubs, and Tommy Troy, who went

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<v Speaker 3>to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Chase Davis might have one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most beautiful swings in this draft, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most projectable hit tools. Doesn't run quite enough, but hits

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<v Speaker 3>the ball really, really hard, and he's like my number six.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Shaw is a big match on Tommy Troy. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>very similar. They both steal bases. Tommy Troy was seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen homer stolen base. They both hit the ball really hard,

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<v Speaker 3>they both don't strike out a bunch of middle infielders,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to the Cubs and Diamondbacks, which I

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<v Speaker 3>really love. Those guys are inside my top eight and

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<v Speaker 3>those guys went respectively, twelve and thirteen. Tommy Troy went

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<v Speaker 3>to the Diamondbacks at twelve and Matt Shaw at thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun fact, Tommy Troy was actually listed as a short

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<v Speaker 3>stop as well as Matt Shaw, where they both played

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<v Speaker 3>some second base and third base. Those are gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>great fantasy assets because there's big floor stolen base five

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<v Speaker 3>tool potential. Yet people might overlook them because they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go in the top ten of the actual draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's run through those top ten of yours right now

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<v Speaker 2>that you've got. So if you're heading into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the offseason here in the dynasty leagues and you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the rookie draft, what does this class in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the top ten Welsh prospects look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we're trying to decipher this for fantasy and

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<v Speaker 3>not just like what you know happen right.

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<v Speaker 2>We want guys who are going to make an impact

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<v Speaker 2>the next two to three years, not the next five

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<v Speaker 2>to six years, because that is a long time to

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<v Speaker 2>wait sometimes for a lot of places. And granted, we

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<v Speaker 2>are getting these guys who get up to the big

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<v Speaker 2>leagues now in two years, who are you know, eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen years old, And we're seeing these guys jump from

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<v Speaker 2>A ball to Double A in the same year and

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<v Speaker 2>their rookies in their first season in professional baseball. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's incredible the pace these guys are at. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's because they're getting better instruction, they're playing year round.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also you know, going.

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<v Speaker 2>Through these development, especially at the college level, such a

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<v Speaker 2>more competitive game than it was even ten fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>ago with some of these prospects that are coming through there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there's every reason to be excited about

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<v Speaker 2>some of these younger prospects, the guys who are straight

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<v Speaker 2>out of high school. But at the same time, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking fantasy. We want guys that can help our teams

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<v Speaker 2>win sooner than later. But what does that top ten

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<v Speaker 2>board look like for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'll tell you my fantasy lists are built

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<v Speaker 3>around three years, but I also look at it from

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<v Speaker 3>full dynasty, so I value I will value younger guys

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<v Speaker 3>still very high. But I'm going to give you a

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<v Speaker 3>cave about the end. I'll throw a couple of players

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to excuse the high school players. So

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<v Speaker 3>here's my top ten in first year player Dylan Cruz,

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<v Speaker 3>White Langford, Paul Skins. That's the top three that is

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<v Speaker 3>a tier in itself. The next tier of value is

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<v Speaker 3>Max Clark, who is a true five tool player, huge speed,

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<v Speaker 3>good contact, Quadzilla call him hardest working guy in this draft,

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<v Speaker 3>optimized player high school to the Tigers. He's number four.

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<v Speaker 3>Walker Jenkins with big powers number five. But even though

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<v Speaker 3>I put them in a tier, you could justify for

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<v Speaker 3>just what you said, proximity wise, you might want to

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<v Speaker 3>take the college guys over high school because number six, seven,

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<v Speaker 3>and eight on my list are Chase Davis, Matt Shaw,

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<v Speaker 3>and Tommy Troy. I wouldn't argue if you wanted them

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<v Speaker 3>over the high school players. Number nine and ten, against

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<v Speaker 3>my better judgment, are pitchers Noble Meyer at the high

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<v Speaker 3>school guy and Rhet Lauder out of Wake Forest, who's phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 3>incredible change up, big command. But I will give you

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<v Speaker 3>these last little tidbits. If you didn't want to mess

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<v Speaker 3>around with noble Meyer, you want guys to help you now,

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<v Speaker 3>you should look at Enrique Bradfield, fastest player in the

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<v Speaker 3>draft at a Vanderbilt going to Baltimore, who absolutely does

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible job with these players. He just needs to

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<v Speaker 3>add power to be elite. Brock Wilkin went to Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 3>He's my number thirteen prospect, huge power, walks, doesn't strike out,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the biggest power in this draft. That's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that you could take a look at. And Braden Taylor,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a shortstop to Tampa Bay. Those are three

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<v Speaker 3>college guys that you could look at that could be

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<v Speaker 3>top ten. If you're not going to value either a

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<v Speaker 3>pitching or some of those high school But I will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you there is crazy good value in the second

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<v Speaker 3>and third round of first year player. So pay attention

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<v Speaker 3>because there is a lot of production to be had

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<v Speaker 3>because we saw a college uptick in value in the

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<v Speaker 3>draft where more college guys were going than ever before

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<v Speaker 3>over some of thesehigh school players, which means proximity, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what we're looking at with fantasy outside

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<v Speaker 3>of just the long term value.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought up Max Clark because I like

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<v Speaker 2>him a lot. He has incredible batspeed. He again Harper esque.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you look at the way Bryce Harper swings,

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<v Speaker 2>the way way Bryce Harper comes down on the baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>follows through the power and balance of the legs in

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<v Speaker 2>the lower half too.

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<v Speaker 1>When you watch Max Clark hit, he's got that same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell this kid grew up watching a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Bryce Harper, Like there's just no way he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's a carbon copy. He's a little

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<v Speaker 2>smaller than Harper, but physically speaking, very strong, especially for

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<v Speaker 2>his age. I mean, this is a kid who goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the gym. As you said, like you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>there's power, their strength there. But to me it's also

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he keeps the hands back, he comes through

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, and then you know, watching highlights, if he

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<v Speaker 2>gets fooled, he's got such good balance.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of times I'm watching some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the highlights of him, you'll see him get full

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<v Speaker 2>of the pitch and he'll end up hitting a single

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<v Speaker 2>to left field.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna interrupt him. I think it's so incredible for

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<v Speaker 1>him because, look, young hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>You are doing a very good job. Because something I

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<v Speaker 3>noted on CBS, I noted everywhere is just what you

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<v Speaker 3>said that I find interesting about him is he's a

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<v Speaker 3>smart enough player. And I don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 3>because you're you're watching highlighted video. Sometimes if it is

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<v Speaker 3>adjustment live to the pitch or pre pitch approach, but

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what you said is so smart that I have

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<v Speaker 3>seen him do a bunch. Is he can spray the

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<v Speaker 3>ball to the opposite field, he can come across his body.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes he can go heavy pull where his swing gets

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<v Speaker 3>more uppity and he's pulling, or he can shorten his

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<v Speaker 3>swing for more doubles power down left center. So those

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<v Speaker 3>are that's kind of a Corbyn Carroll esque thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he's anything like Corby Carroll, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's just start enough hitter that he more likes those adjustments.

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<v Speaker 2>He's more like Harper physically speaking in terms of his approach. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a little at swag too, like which I

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<v Speaker 2>really like. I like it a lot. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of splag, a lot of bravado when you watch

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<v Speaker 2>him play. But also so like I said, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>key thing for young player. It's like, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 2>always watch the balls that he hits out of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 2>Show me the app bats where he gets full and

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, hits a double in the left field

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<v Speaker 2>gap opo. That impresses me about a young hitter. But

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of physically speaking to eventually, this guy as

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<v Speaker 2>he grows into frame could be a really good player

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<v Speaker 2>because he's because he's got good speed too obviously as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's power, there's balance in the swing, good hands,

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<v Speaker 2>incredible bat speed. I'm glad you brought up Clark because that,

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<v Speaker 2>to me is the guy that as I'm watching more

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<v Speaker 2>and more of him, the more I like And look,

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<v Speaker 2>we try to just give you a little taste of

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<v Speaker 2>what this first round was here for the minor league

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<v Speaker 2>prospects that are now going to hopefully sign with all

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<v Speaker 2>these major league teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall see what happens here.

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<v Speaker 2>But to stay on top of all that, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you follow the Welsh on Twitter, a is at the Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Checkout our Dynasty prospect rankings that are gonna be up

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<v Speaker 2>there on fantasypros dot com. But also, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you a subscribe to the Prospect One podcast because

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<v Speaker 2>that is a great way to stay on top of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. Some you'll see in the Arizona Fall League

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Welsh will have video of them, will have

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<v Speaker 2>interviews a little of them as well, So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great opportunity to get to know these prospects better and

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<v Speaker 2>how they're going to eventually make their way into your

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>So great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, we'll be back again on Friday, Bogman and

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<v Speaker 2>I will be doing leading off while Welsh takes a

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<v Speaker 2>little vak with the kiddos, and we'll be back again

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<v Speaker 2>Monday as usual and leading off.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for joining us. That'll do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story of the game goes on for the Welsh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids.

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<v Speaker 3>My friendos