WEBVTT - The Journey of Erika Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>Love he laugh. If you watch Coffee Time the baby

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<v Speaker 1>you know the name Flame, my role also known as

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<v Speaker 1>my role Flame. Come in with last and come in

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<v Speaker 1>with you love luds. Baby, you better catch it when

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<v Speaker 1>you can't drop a knowledge from Fatherhood of politics shouting

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<v Speaker 1>out comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>know she read shot towns on speaking to the grown

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<v Speaker 1>a second, we're gonna laugh, cut of the kicking, and

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<v Speaker 1>at the end we leave it with just a lift. Dispirite.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you want to revisit? So your first like

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<v Speaker 1>a list at kill folks for your sp all folks

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<v Speaker 1>that we dig it. No, you do train, No do

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<v Speaker 1>what you do? No kiss? Do what I do? Well? Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good somewhere good. So

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<v Speaker 1>come to Laugh and Learn. We were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>on another page, but guess who couldn't get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know I'm not technically savvy, So yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be on the Laugh and Learned podcast page.

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<v Speaker 1>But girl, I don't know what this new tablet is

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<v Speaker 1>doing because my my girl ain't here to help me

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<v Speaker 1>out with my stuffy stuff today. Y'all don't like my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, my week is given disaster. My week is

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<v Speaker 1>looking this is fly. This is called wind blown. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a wind I was. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>I was distracted this morning because I was watching the

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<v Speaker 1>news and prayers to the people in Brooklyn, New York

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<v Speaker 1>who were on the subway. I would hate to be

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<v Speaker 1>a short, fat black man in Brooklyn right now, because baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the police is on high alert looking for

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<v Speaker 1>whoever the man was, because they did not catch the

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that released the smoke bomb and then just started

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<v Speaker 1>shooting in the subway. This is just to show you

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<v Speaker 1>that people are really, really, really on edge right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. You know, that's just showing that people

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<v Speaker 1>are human. This pandemic had more effect on more people

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<v Speaker 1>than we know. I e. Will Smith if you're already

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<v Speaker 1>to throw Well Smith up under the bus. But Will

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<v Speaker 1>is human. He's a human being, and it just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened. I'm glad you guys joined me today. My partner,

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<v Speaker 1>Long Hogan could not be here today. Her other job

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<v Speaker 1>has up to a way. She's really really busy, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm here. Y'all don't like my hair, y'all like

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<v Speaker 1>my hair. It was cute when I put it on.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know what happened. It's still cute. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>being blond today. Um, this week, we did get the

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<v Speaker 1>appointment of Katagi Brown Jackson. Yea, we got our first

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<v Speaker 1>black female to be appointed to the Supreme Court as

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<v Speaker 1>a justice. So I'm proud of that. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>great week for black women. Uh, it was also a

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<v Speaker 1>scary week because so many people in Congress and so

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<v Speaker 1>many people that were there have tested positive for coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that y'all did not think that Corona was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope y'all think that Corona was done. She's not done.

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<v Speaker 1>She's still around. So you still have to take the precautions.

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<v Speaker 1>Were your masks, wash your hands, social distance all that

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<v Speaker 1>they relaxed the rules, But that don't mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>Corona gut relaxed. Baby, let me tell you something. I

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<v Speaker 1>go on my my scarecrow hair today. But the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>today is gonna be so great. Kendall was here, Hey, Kendoll,

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to be the most magnificent conversation today

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<v Speaker 1>because not only is my very special guest I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of, but I met her uh, well via zoom

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<v Speaker 1>with UM. When I was working with Karen Hunter doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Karen Hunter Friday shows, Foolish Fridays with Karen Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all know Erica Alexander. We know her from

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<v Speaker 1>as Maxine Shot attorney at law, from Living Single, we

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<v Speaker 1>know her from The Cosby Show. But there is a

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<v Speaker 1>passion project that she's working on. She's a director, she's

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, she's a lot of things. Um. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just found out today that her birthday is the

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<v Speaker 1>same as my dragmother, Sherry Paine's birthday, which is eleven nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my dragmother's birthday. So she's gonna be my very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest, and she's gonna come on. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>flame mess to weigh in with questions. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>all to be respectful. I want you to ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>that's important. Don't come on here with b s because

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<v Speaker 1>you know I do not play b S and there's

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<v Speaker 1>an X at the top. I will block your ask

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<v Speaker 1>for generations. You know I don't care. You know mother

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<v Speaker 1>does not care. So yeah, we're gonna have a great

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with her. I'm just mortified at what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. And that people do not see other

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<v Speaker 1>people's humanity. Because no, I do not agree with this

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<v Speaker 1>man shooting up the subway in Brooklyn, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes to show you that everybody who lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>world who's been affected by the effects of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>the death, the numbers of death, and also being stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, the financial crisis, that it has caused,

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<v Speaker 1>the ostrogization, the loneliness, It is coming out in ways

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<v Speaker 1>that we have not would not believe. I think Will Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the pandemic got to Will Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it was a build up of things

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<v Speaker 1>and now people are exploding. This man went in there

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<v Speaker 1>and release the smoke bomb, and when people started running,

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<v Speaker 1>this food started shooting. So before I go any further,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna talk about some other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to get to this because she has

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff to do, and I really appreciate that she

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<v Speaker 1>took the time to come on with me, and we

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<v Speaker 1>spoke months ago. I told I was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to interview with her. So I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 1>had a conflict. We had a conflict scheduling conflict yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but today we don't, and she is here, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring her own. The Great, the one and only,

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful Miss Erica Alexander, the Maverick, Miss Maxine Shall,

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<v Speaker 1>attorney at Guy used to love when used to say that, lady,

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<v Speaker 1>and please help me. Welcome my special guests, the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Erica Alexander. Hello, Erica the Great Hello Monroe played

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<v Speaker 1>the most daring and beautifulest thing. How are you, beautiful?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? I'm pretty good, I'm good. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I gotta I gotta quick quit. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>quick a story for you about that shooting. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on our train last night going to the Poor

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<v Speaker 1>People's campaign over Um, Reverend Barbera was here, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I went out to support him and and do the

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<v Speaker 1>rally in the march, and I took the our trade

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the our train that I took. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that God protected you and keept you

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<v Speaker 1>off of the train. You know, I would hate to

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<v Speaker 1>be a short, fat black man in Brooklyn right now.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, the police are on high alert. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that as a joke, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a face. That description is a five by five,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy set black man. So all black men in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>if you five by five, stay in the house, please,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe they're just gonna go crazy. Yes, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's scary. I am so glad that you. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about the mix up yesterday. We had a schedule

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<v Speaker 1>in Climflict. She thought I was on the East coast.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she was on the West coast. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>here today, and I'm telling you, all week and all weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been catching up on my old Living Single episodes

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<v Speaker 1>and will you know what I made me fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with you? Not only your character on Living Single,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you got married. You got married in a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of sneakers. I thought that was the cutest ship ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing your wedding photos. I know you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, so thank you. I got an addressed

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't want to wear white, and everyone said

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to wear red. Get the same dress, but

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<v Speaker 1>beat it and red and people are like, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to wear white, and I vowed to the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hated that. So at the end, the designer

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<v Speaker 1>of the dress sent me a couple of pair of

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<v Speaker 1>his shoes if he had just done a line for kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had this sort of golden peacock print on it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I didn't like any of the shoes

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<v Speaker 1>they got me for the dress because my assistantt helped

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<v Speaker 1>me get in shoes. They were back in the day's

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<v Speaker 1>shoes for wedding dresses. So awful. Anyway, long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>I put those shoes on and that was my defiant

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<v Speaker 1>move and it also made me feel like me. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I I figured, no one's gonna see my feet anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I came down the step, I picked up

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<v Speaker 1>my dress and everyone saw my shoes and started laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was actually a really good moment for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great. You know, you always had to find

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<v Speaker 1>you in the in the midst of everything else. A

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of chaotic stuff can be going on around you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you always have to find you. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you found you at that moment. That was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to live. Let me get to living single

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<v Speaker 1>because let me tell you something. That show was such

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<v Speaker 1>a popular show and and and older than you a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of a couple of years. Uh. Look, but that show,

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<v Speaker 1>that show taught me, Um how to roommate if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to roommate, because you guys had disagreements. You had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you had, but at the end you always

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<v Speaker 1>sound solid because your friendship was more important than the

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement you had. I loved that that show taught that

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, they love to say that a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of black women can be in a room together, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always gonna become chaotic and and disastrous. But you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>show love, you guys show support. The show was so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun. We almost felt like we were a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the show that we watched it every week. You

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<v Speaker 1>that's how engaging you all were to us. And I

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<v Speaker 1>knew the whole backstory with the whole free and things

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, because that show you that we ain't

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<v Speaker 1>changed much in this country. That show that last week

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<v Speaker 1>when Katagi Brown Jackson got fifty three to forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and in nineteen thirty four thirty five when h third

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<v Speaker 1>Gradmasha was put on, he was sixty one, plug four

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven against are we going back with Erica? Sixty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? So when that show came to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you feel about it? Because the character of

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<v Speaker 1>Maxine schal Attorney allowed how close to that character is

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Alexander. Well, you know, we bring yourself to every

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<v Speaker 1>role you play, even though that is not ideal for

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<v Speaker 1>someone like me, because I think I'm quite boring. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not certainly don't have a law degree. Come home, miss Lam,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a law degree. I'm high school graduate

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<v Speaker 1>of a very good school, Philadelfinie High School for Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I did get accepted into the like you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>left after two weeks because I got a role on

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<v Speaker 1>a in a world tour with the Royal Shakespeare Company

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<v Speaker 1>and it was to grow around the world. And I

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<v Speaker 1>asked my mother, uh if that was cool, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's his own education, you to see the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I left and then um, after that time,

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<v Speaker 1>my father passed away and my I figured I was

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<v Speaker 1>working since I was fourteen and and getting some shil

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<v Speaker 1>work and TV and stage. So I thought I'd helped

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<v Speaker 1>my mother continue to work and bringing an inn come

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I did. So I'm not like my

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<v Speaker 1>character in that way. She's highly educated, she's but but

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<v Speaker 1>everything else definitely, And we were taught expect to mentors

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<v Speaker 1>with five emism and and all sorts of other people politically.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how much I'd get in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But Max is to me that she's a She's a

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<v Speaker 1>uh real pastiche of the women I met and the

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<v Speaker 1>women who raised me and the people I admired. She's

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<v Speaker 1>also the house that Fox. The Red Fox was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my comedy mentors. I didn't know I be such

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<v Speaker 1>a comedic actress, but Red Fox, Um, Michael J. Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Fox, I was on Fox Network, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love Sherman Helmsley. Those are the types of people you

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<v Speaker 1>see in Max. Those are the people I was watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh when you were Maxine Shall attorney and law and

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<v Speaker 1>slept with all the men you wanted to. I never

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<v Speaker 1>looked at that character as being a thought. I always like, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>let men do it. I love that you were so

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<v Speaker 1>dominant as a woman in that role, and it shows

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<v Speaker 1>so much male aggression, or not aggression, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>right word. It shows so much male dominance because you

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<v Speaker 1>know me and could sleep with twenty five women and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody looks at him like he's a whore. But Max

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<v Speaker 1>Thin was like, I want this one, this one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm good with you. Go home. Girl. That made

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<v Speaker 1>me like, oh, I would be like that. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that already. That was And so when

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<v Speaker 1>the storyline went and you and Kyle hooked up with

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<v Speaker 1>all the bickering because y'all had the greatest one liners

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<v Speaker 1>at each other, those one liners that you guys will

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth with how much of that was

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsed and how much of that rolling off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of your dome because some of that looked just too

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<v Speaker 1>organic for it to be rehearsed, really or absolutely, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's chemistry is everything. I'm telling you, we're in comedy

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<v Speaker 1>that if you have people who you know able to

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<v Speaker 1>throw you the ball, the point the only thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be aware of that throw that, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>decide how it has to be tossed back all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be stuck in those decisions. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the key is to remain open to your urges and reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's true in the moment is how we reacted.

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<v Speaker 1>But true in the moment are there's things that we

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<v Speaker 1>do with our eyes, our hands, and sometimes every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then addatives that work. I mean, PC and I

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<v Speaker 1>would go back and forth with that, but he would

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<v Speaker 1>always seem to get me because he's so nasty. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes and do all that I you could see when

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<v Speaker 1>Eric is there and Max is not. But event Lee Bowser,

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<v Speaker 1>to her credit, not only the commission knew the girl

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm physical, so they had to play to my physicality.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to play to the fact that I was unsentimental.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very Erica, where I'm there to have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of empathy and love, but I'm not the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be olverly like girls. You know, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it unless that's the joke, you know, because that's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>What they did was put me from in their character

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<v Speaker 1>that she created, which by the way, is event Lee Bowser.

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<v Speaker 1>She is Max. She was the person who was a

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<v Speaker 1>way to Standford, to be a lawyer and all that

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<v Speaker 1>mess not me. She has She married man named Kyle Bowser,

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<v Speaker 1>not Barker, but that's her. What they what they got

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<v Speaker 1>right was um allowing me to be free. So all

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<v Speaker 1>that physicality is all that girl. You brought so much

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<v Speaker 1>life to that role. Eric, I'm telling you I loved

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<v Speaker 1>all the characters on the show, but for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>I resonated with Max. I'm telling you Max to me

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, my first drag name was Maxine, my

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<v Speaker 1>very first drag name. That was it was my prostitute name.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't my show girl name. It was my whole

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<v Speaker 1>name when I was the other girl, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>that's the name of my car. My name of my

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<v Speaker 1>new car is Maxine because that name that's so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I thought I was the

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<v Speaker 1>only Maxine. But so many of those episodes, the leaching

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<v Speaker 1>when you were just walking the house and just take

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<v Speaker 1>what you wanted. And the episode that I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>week in that really just took me over the edge

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<v Speaker 1>was the one with you and the girl who played

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<v Speaker 1>Kim on a Different World when she was Cadian's best

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<v Speaker 1>friend and she was freeloading. You kept trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>Kadiji because I've been in that instant so many times

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to tell another friend that another friend was girl,

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not the one. But when I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>episode this weekend, I was like, yea, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest chemistry of all of you ladies on the

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<v Speaker 1>show and the guys. Because I've never met the other

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<v Speaker 1>comedian what's his name, um, John Hinton. I never met

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<v Speaker 1>John Hinton on the road doing stand up at not

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<v Speaker 1>not as of yet, because I met him. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Kim Fields actually before with Sherry Shepard at

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<v Speaker 1>the Comedy Union a few years ago. Kim is just

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<v Speaker 1>a bubbly I'm like, girl, do you turn off? Because baby,

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<v Speaker 1>she was all over the place. I'm like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>turn off? But that show was so popular, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that the country that we live in would put

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<v Speaker 1>two of the same at almost the same identical twin

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<v Speaker 1>shows with one black, one white, and the one white

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<v Speaker 1>went catapulted to the at stratosphere and the one black

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<v Speaker 1>kept stay black famous. Even though y'all crossed over some y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>that show should have been still on TV to this

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<v Speaker 1>day because the rules that you all taught and the

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<v Speaker 1>love that y'all have for each other in the show

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<v Speaker 1>resonates with so many of the audience members. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we stayed tuned to that damn show every week. It

0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because it was Queen Latifa and Kim Fields and

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Elizon. It was because we knew these I know

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<v Speaker 1>this bitch, I felt like, I know this, that's my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. That's what made it so genuine for us

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<v Speaker 1>as audience members. And I hate that show in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you, Eric because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>won't never been on TV. It's well, yeah, it had

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<v Speaker 1>to end, yeah yeah, And we cast those episodes, We

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<v Speaker 1>cast those reruns every chan. Let me Chell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't nothing for me to take an edible and

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<v Speaker 1>have a bowl of popcorn and watch Living Single all day.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, well, I wish somebody would call me

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<v Speaker 1>and put me in one. You know what my problem

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.160
<v Speaker 1>is with acting, Erica. They always want me to play me.

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to play me. I just know

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<v Speaker 1>how to beat me. When you tell me go and

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<v Speaker 1>say be flame, I'm like, what do I do? You know,

0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do. I just be flame.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to be somebody. But it's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because you said it is coming, we got we

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<v Speaker 1>got we in talks for some stuff, so we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to ask you, because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>were on The Cosby Show. How many seasons were you

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:35.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Cosby Show? Just too when they when they

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<v Speaker 1>when they scandal came out about Bill Cosby. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I've ever heard you comment about I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that you would ever put in that space because

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<v Speaker 1>you were so young. How did you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know a very different deal Cosby than what

0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we know. We know Bill Cosby the America's dad and

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen, but then when we hear about this

0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.200
<v Speaker 1>other side you've worked with him, did you ever get

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<v Speaker 1>any inclination about that or how did you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>that whole situation. I don't think anyone could have never

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that the types of allegations and um uh stories

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<v Speaker 1>that came out could ever exist, not about anybody I knew,

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<v Speaker 1>let all about um, Mr Cosby. What I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have been asked, is that do I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's advocate um UM My mother was molested when she

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, and my sister who was raped. UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>speak an advocacy of women and believing them UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I believed that the women who came out UM

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<v Speaker 1>needed to have their stories told, and it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be told from their mouth. I did not experience that

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<v Speaker 1>type of behavior, and I'm grateful for that. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that, UM, I have nothing more word to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the stories within selfie did and things like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>since these women weren't always in the position to be

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<v Speaker 1>not only heard but believe, and things have changed. They

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<v Speaker 1>were things that they didn't believe when children told them.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's laws that changed because people broke through. But

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<v Speaker 1>people think who are always living in this world and

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't even know what a feminist is FEMINESSI

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<v Speaker 1>feminist is a person who believe that females should have

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<v Speaker 1>the same rights as men. That's simply it. But that

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't always the case. We didn't even have right to

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<v Speaker 1>our own credit people black black people, but women had

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<v Speaker 1>to be signed a credit and a man had to

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<v Speaker 1>sign with you. And Nate Holden was a young counselman

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<v Speaker 1>in l A was one of the people who changed

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<v Speaker 1>it and then became all of the land. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to learn our history to understand that things change,

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<v Speaker 1>change change because people helped change them. That what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know is that before you cast the stone,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the atmosphere and look at how far we

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<v Speaker 1>had to come for even those things go forward. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wish my best to all the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>advocating for those types of changes in the world. That

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<v Speaker 1>is great information, Erica, thank you for that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that. But I am a woman. I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for women as well because I'm a female impersonator.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say that one more time. I am a

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<v Speaker 1>female impersonator. I impersonate women because I admire and adore

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<v Speaker 1>and love women, and I'm much more comfortable working as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman than i would be dressed up as a man.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of backlash from my own community

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because of that. To Erica, because I see women for

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<v Speaker 1>the role that they positioned that they are in our

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>lives as female impersonators, I would not know how to

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<v Speaker 1>be a girl if I had to watch a guy

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to be a girl, That is crazy

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.880
<v Speaker 1>to me. Women are givers of life. Women bring everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to the earth. At my joke on stages, if straight

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<v Speaker 1>people stop sucking, won't be the more l G B

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<v Speaker 1>t Q. I'm just saying, because you can't get pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>in the booby. That's a horrible joke to say publically,

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<v Speaker 1>but I see it right now. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care as a female person that I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>I was studying women as a kid. You don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that you you watch your mother, your sisters, your Auntie,

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<v Speaker 1>your cousins, you're best friend because you're learning how to

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<v Speaker 1>be a girl. But you didn't know this. Subsequently, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>studying how to be feminine without knowing that I was

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>actually in class. So I always admire women and uphold

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<v Speaker 1>women to a higher standard than I would. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of us, Plus my difference is a female impersonator,

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<v Speaker 1>and a trans woman is a trans woman, and a

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>woman is a woman, and the only differences between them

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<v Speaker 1>besides the sexual organ is a heart and mind. Because

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<v Speaker 1>a man does not think like a woman, he does

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<v Speaker 1>not have a hard man of a woman a heart.

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 1>A woman's hard mind is so different from a man's.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to understand women to know that, and

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of people don't understand women.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't always understand. You're crazy help us all the

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 1>tame me, But but I deal with it because I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Yes, of course, as an observe a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you feel that you see that's consistent? And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we're all the things consistent about women

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<v Speaker 1>because you're talking about that. I'm just fascinated. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>fact to be an observe a woman. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>translated and filtered through your own experience? What that what

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<v Speaker 1>is consistent? When you feel the strength and the loyalty

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.479
<v Speaker 1>of women. Men don't have that. Men don't have a strength.

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about a physical strength. I'm talking

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>about an emotional strength that women have. Women will stay

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<v Speaker 1>in a fight way longer than they should. Their loyalty

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and dedication to somebody, especially when they have children or

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a certain statue that they want to keep. Women will

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>tolerate way more than a man. A man will I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a loaf for bred, and they'll never

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<v Speaker 1>come back, you know, And when demanding me, when I'm

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>done with it, I will walk away from it. But

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>women will stay in it to a fault almost to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the dedication and loyalty that women give

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to their families, to their husbands, to their to their children,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I've always wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I always want to be able to say

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<v Speaker 1>my kids drive me crazy, Erica, especially my daughters. I

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 1>got two teenage daughters. I'd like to throw both of

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<v Speaker 1>mamfa train. Let me just be honest right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>watch I watched my grandmother with my mother and her

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<v Speaker 1>and her sisters, and they took my grandmother over the

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<v Speaker 1>river and through the woods, and I listened to so

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<v Speaker 1>many life lessons from my grandmother. When she said there

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<v Speaker 1>will be some years that you will hate your children,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you never hate your kids, And she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>me hate when like you would really hate them, although

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's real close. But she meant there would be

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<v Speaker 1>some trying times that you will have to remember that

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<v Speaker 1>these are your kids and you love these people, so

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to stay in it. That is what women

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<v Speaker 1>are to me. And the prime example of that was

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I hate that they put black people in the pigeonhole.

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>All black people act the same because two black men

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<v Speaker 1>recently were in the same instident, Will Smith and Chris Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>they handled it very differently. That shows you that we

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<v Speaker 1>are not a monolith. Just and black women, black women,

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<v Speaker 1>black black woman. Becautani Brown said for four days in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her mom and dad, her children, her her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>and the world, and was humiliated, disrespected, picked apart. Made

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<v Speaker 1>if they asked this woman, what does being a woman

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you? I thought that was the most preponderous

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>shit I have heard in my life. But she sat

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with her temperament, with her mind, with her heart, her spirit.

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>She remembered her ancestors, She breathed, She answered the question,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>she gave them what they need, and when it was

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<v Speaker 1>something that was unimportant to her, she said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even understand that question. To me, that spoke volumes as

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<v Speaker 1>being a woman, a black woman, but a fucking woman.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will always uphold women in a higher regard. So,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>my sisters that don't like that I hold women in

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<v Speaker 1>high regard, you know how I feel about it, don't

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't make me take my wig off and show you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know that you are women's advocate, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know I want to talk about your passion project Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>because I talked about this on the panel recently, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like sixty four trans women came

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<v Speaker 1>up dead last year, and any death is a death.

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>But there's ninety four thousand black and brown women in

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<v Speaker 1>this country missing and it goes unreported and disregarded. But

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Becky's still go missing for an hour and she just

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<v Speaker 1>in the playground. Y'all, stop the world. I want to

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>hear about your project. I want to hear about what

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, because this was when I heard you speak

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>about it on I think on the Breakfast Club. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, damn, you know, it hit me like a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of break That could be my sister or my

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>mom or my auntie. Uh, girl, you got the floor.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We want to know, we want to know what you know.

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I want your brain. Oh well, you know, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for bringing that up, because the truth is

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<v Speaker 1>um and we need to start talking about fans, women

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of things that are going on. Because

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>they had a conversation with miss Freda, Big Frieda and

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<v Speaker 1>um about just violence overall in the in the trans

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>community and how disagree one will elive and anathering I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never hear from. And it's Gwen Iford called business and

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>white when women syndrome. The fact that we will go

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, two damned undistress blonde the wide usually

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<v Speaker 1>um um person who by the way, if they go missing,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 1>they deserve the activity to be found. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is. The problem is that we do it

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<v Speaker 1>to the exclusion black and brown and indigenous women, people

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>who are differently able. Any of these people just go

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<v Speaker 1>missing and it's just what it is. And so um

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<v Speaker 1>Tamika Houston is the young woman that we do the

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<v Speaker 1>uh the Uh. It's an audible series, an audible original.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharomagne to God as a one of the producers, and

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Hart I love Schadowmagne I know you know and

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 1>and loves him. He's done so much to uplift and

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>support and produce these types of things give people down.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>He produced the podcast, the Reparations Podcast. But what we

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<v Speaker 1>did is we did the story about Tomka Houston, not

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<v Speaker 1>physically just about her death which people could look up

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<v Speaker 1>on Google and find out. She but missing in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five, just short of her twenty fifth birthday and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually was found fifteen months later in a clearing in

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the in in the forest. She had been mutilated, her half,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>her head cut off, and um Um the man had

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>gone back that killed her and took off things that

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>he thought would identify people identify her, and through the

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of that those pieces in the in the dumpster,

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>so not even the full piece of her was there.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But the point about Tomika's story was um telling the

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 1>story to Miko, who became a poster child, or the

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<v Speaker 1>change that happened when people started to start decided to say,

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<v Speaker 1>why are we accepting that there's anything like a called

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>missing white women's syndrome and why doesn't national media pay attention.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Why does Gabby Petito bless her who goes missing suddenly

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>get all the air time? And we haven't heard of

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>any of these women that she was kind of the

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>opposed to child for the change. Her auntie, Rebecca Howard

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is the person that I um that David person met,

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the person I met when I was doing a women's

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>event in Alabama, remembered me and said, Hey, are you

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>interested in this story? And I said, of course I'm interested.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>What can we make something a podcast or audio thing

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about it? We went around and we started asking about it,

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and long story short, m Charlemagne was like, Yo, I

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>just got a new deal with Kevin at All a

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>goal and I think we can do it there. And

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we ended up doing that there. James T. Green was

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<v Speaker 1>our executive producer. He co wrote with me. He brought

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the Sonic team there. Ben are non Color Farm is

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>my UM co founder, and we had our producers with

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Houston and David Persons and s pH which is

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Charlemagne and Kevin's company and all the and we did it,

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and it took all of us in it to do it.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>We had to do interviews. I had to do the interviews,

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>had to do the co wrote the thing, UM had

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<v Speaker 1>to call. The skills I didn't even have, but I learned.

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<v Speaker 1>We tried to do our best to tell the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but also there was a ghost story there playing when

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we got there. Sneka was showing up as a ghost

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in her family's life and in stranger's life and still communicating.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So we did it as in the war story, a

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>neo no war story, because I think the things have

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<v Speaker 1>to be entertaining beyond the value of just the tragedy

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>or the thing, you know, the the thing that makes

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you look, which is a lot of scandal, and that

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>kinde of stuff. We needed to tell her story and

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>also lifted up out of that into what you might

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>do if you had to spoiling your hands and missed it.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:53.479
<v Speaker 1>You tell a full restory who that person was. How

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>can we or you as a woman and me as

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a trans woman, black trim, how can we get more

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>young women involved in this project? And this because young

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>women are the ones that get snatched up the most, honestly,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>because they seem like they're invincible, they seem like they

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>don't pay attention and I got a flame at Her

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>name is t J. And we call it perfectionately, we

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>call it t t J. And she always says, keep

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>your head on the swivel. We need to get more

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>young sisters involved in the missing of black and brown

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>women in this country because they always think that it

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>can happen to them until it happens to them or

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody they know. So that's my question, how can we

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>get more sisters involved in this education and awareness of

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>danger and evil out there. The truth is people don't

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want to say those words, but we know it to

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<v Speaker 1>be true and what we do and part of what

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Tamika learns and I think one of her downfall was

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>she thought she was a hustler. She thought she could hang.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And often we think we can hear, we put ourselves

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the positions where we shouldn't that we think, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>can work this out, and you don't know what realized

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>that these people have different intentions. They're not just gonna

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>get mad at you, They're gonna take your life. And

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>we talk in a good game in the music and

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in the culture about getting the bag and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a wrong message because what it does is

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it makes women, especially feel like they have to put

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>themselves out there and leverage their position to attract our status.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you really you have to talking hold? And then

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>they go missing because I I often say, do we

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>see black? Black girl does not have to go missing

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>for us not to see her. These people, they're walking

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>down the street every day. We need to have neighborhood

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>watches and people say I saw her she You know,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>people can step out and say I see the children,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I clark who's supposed to come in, you know around

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the twelve blah blah blah. And maybe people who are

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>coming home late. In sports and that's let it, athletes

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>are tutoring who's watching them and then have some kind

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of we have phones and acts. We can build things

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to me like your children. We can build things to

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>monitor um college students and people going to party, tell

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>people where they're at, check in things like that. We

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>need to take advantage of this stuff. We have to.

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>We also need awareness and education and we need to

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>also be honest to say, sometimes we put ourselves in

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a position and we do not realize that it is out.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It has outranked us in terms of danger and UM,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you cannot learn that you don't play with these people

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>out there, then it's not a game. No it's not.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>And you you could lose your life. And and the

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>moren look like that guy had the ladies in the

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>basement in that house in Ohio. He had them there

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>for ten years and did whatever he wanted to do

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>with them. And they're so something to do. The way

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.239
<v Speaker 1>they get you is they they they grab you and

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they tie you up and then they'll give you a

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit here and there. They make you feel like

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they love you or they care about you. You're the

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>only person who will and they just use you and

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>make a fool out of you. Times have changed so much,

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Erica from when I was a kid, because, like you said,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood did watch Ms. Jones gonna look out how

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>window and say, Marcus, don't you do that. I'm gonna

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>call your mom because we did that. You know they

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>did that when we were young, and you knew Ms.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Johnson was watching Miss Jackson on the third floor. All

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the way was always was in the window. We had

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody to treat. We had Dad's in the neighborhood or

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>me and in the neighborhood that would grab you and say, hey,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>don't talk to those ladies like that, watch your mouth.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't have that anymore. Social media. To me, the

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>internet has made all of that go away. These kids

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>feel so entitled now and so powerful because they think

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>they know everything because of Google. First of all, Google

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>is a liar. Let me just say that Google said

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm worth eight hundred thousand. Somebody got about three hundred

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thousands of my money. Let me just because of the world.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>That's all that back. And and people just said, suck

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it up. It is what it is. Don't tell nobody.

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>We've been um lifted and done in by neighbors at um,

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>aunt uncles, brothers, fathers, all sorts of people. And that

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be a need to movement for black women.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>That sort of gives infermission to tell the truth about

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>how how devious and scandalous it is just to live

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a basic life. And and and I'm not talking about

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>someone who's going out and doing all sorts of things

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that people deem um dangerous and can make you vulnerable.

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Just live in your life. And so I like to say,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you're talking about this subject. I'm glad

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>we can have awareness, but we need to go in

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>high schools, middle schools and everywhere, and people like you

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and me going there and talk about what it is

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to um to um be vulnerable, and how we can

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be much more helpful to each other. Yeah, you know,

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you made a very valid point. And I always say

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>this when I talk about when they tell me somebody

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>get killed or something happened to somebody, I always say, well,

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>what part did you play in your demise? And what

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you said is very true. Sometimes you could just be

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.479
<v Speaker 1>walking home from the store or walking home from school.

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of times we put ourselves in precarious positions.

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>That's anybody, not just women, just you each other. And

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>then you you You see what happened with the outcome

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>unpacked the suitcase. Had I not been there, had I

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>not been putting myself in that situation, that possibly could

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>not have happened to me. Now, something, your life is

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>already blueprinted. God is an architect. Your life is already blueprint.

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You have to go through the motions. Hopefully you have

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a fate and a strength where you will survive it

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and come through it and be able to help and

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>teach somebody else. But a lot of times people don't

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>pay attention because we feel like we're invincible as especially

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're young or I can do anything. Ain't nothing

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen to me, but something can happen to you.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes something does happen to you, and it's scary.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I got two daughters. I tell them all the time,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 1>don't rab with these people, don't be put in situation.

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And they're black, and I remind them all the time,

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and they bunch. You got a bunch of white girlfriends.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>If you're in a car and some ship go down,

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>you are the suspect. Just because you wear your badge

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of honor on your arm, you are the suspect. And

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the helps will throw you up under the bus. We

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>get into it all time. They love me, they do

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>love you, but they will throw you up under the bus.

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Understand that you have to remember that you are black

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>woman in this country. I teach my daughters that all

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the time. You Minister Lewis fair Con, because I'm aware

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of what has happened in this country to my people

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and to me. Because I watched I listened to Minister

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>fair Coon. I like that, man. Thank you. I might

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>become a I might become a Muslim. Can I wat

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this weak? Please lets that happen. Now, that's that's not

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a sitcom, that right there is. It's a whole achology,

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a Muslim training, you know. That would be some ship

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>right there is? Erica, Oh my god, please do it

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>not Lord please? So what what's next? What's the next

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>project for you? Because when I met you through Karen Hunter,

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Karen Hunter, you were in Chicago family project.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>What were you? What's your next big project? That's right,

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you got a good memory. Okay, So I was in

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Chicago filming Shining Girls. It's out in like unless in

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. That's the Elizabeth mar and um and

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Wagner More. That's going be great. It's a it's a

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>series and eight part series about women to go missing

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's funny. But there's a whole piece to it.

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So there's a twist on this. Yeah, that's gonna be good.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Go check out seed. I love to see you, um no,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>no serious. I can see them the age progression, you know,

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>because young since it was a beautiful black woman when

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>she was young. But I can see them making you

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way through. I can see them doing the age.

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I can see you doing the Sincily Tyson life story.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I see that. I really, I'm looking at you right

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>now with your hair pulled back and you I see

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. My my, yeah, Well, thank you.

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a great compliment. It's one of the greatest. It's

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I was told when I first

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>started acting that people said you were mind as a

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>specially Tyson. I was like, really, And if we actually

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>played in Mama Floor's family, she was the older version.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I was the younger version of her. And the last

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Route A series I played young Floor, she was older Floor.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So I did him. I did a whole mini series

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>with with with Sethie Tyson. We played each Oh. I

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>can definitely see you doing her life story and going

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>through all the change. I want to see you do

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a woman called Moses. They should first of all, they

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>should remake that. You should be the one they remake

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that with. That should be that should be remade to

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>this day. Oh oh, I love I love everything about her.

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But thank you. That's a great, a great thing. So

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question. But let me

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>tell you also a couple of things that I'm getting

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>ready to do my reparations documentary that we've been feeling

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>for the past three years. Okay, I remember you talking

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>about that on camera Hunter. Yeah, yeah, it's been except um,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be out soon and um, everybody should

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>pay attention for a big uh you know, announcement and

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so um that's going out. And then also Swimming with Sharks,

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>which is on Roal Coup. That's on real Coup. So

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>check that out. Well, you know it's safe for about

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's safe for black people to swim with sharks.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>They don't like us. Sharks are racist, they don't bite us.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Will last time you heard about a black person getting

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>back shark. Okay, I'm just gonna let you marry it

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on there for ASA. Sharks and aliens don't like us. Funny,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. I want to ask you though, Erica. You

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.959
<v Speaker 1>um in the movie The Long Walk Home. I remember

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you play Whoopy's daughter in that. I wanted to come

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 1>through that movie. You were so good in that movie.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to come through that TV screen and wring

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>your neck. But being old, hard headed as black girl

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>and your mama told you not to get your black

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>ass on that bus when you were doing that and

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>they were doing that scene when they beat your brother

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and all of that that had to real emotions had

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to come through you watching that, even though you were

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 1>part of you knew it was an acting scene or whatever.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 1>How did you feel at that moment when they were

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>kicking him and stumping him and it was it was

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>your fault. You did know. It's awful. Um, it was awful.

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, during that time, and all my

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>first acting gigs, because I think it was nineteen at

0:38:55.160 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the time, were either foster children, uh, civil um slaves

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>process it was. They were all heavy rolls and they

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>picked you because you could play the drama and so

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you had to be in it. I didn't know at

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the time that I didn't have to bring my own

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>experience to it because I hadn't experienced anything like But

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I had experienced um uh somebody um holding you back

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and beating on you and you can't do anything about it.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows what that feeling is and um and so uh,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're there, you don't have to fake it. There's

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>real people in front of you. Afterwards, they when they

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>turn on you and you're doing your close up, they're

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>beating a pillow, you know what I mean. And and

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the the young man. We were you know, we played,

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>we played together outside. I was a kid and I

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>was a teenager, and so there's nothing, no imagination. You

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>just gotta get out of um up in triangle with

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>my mother, um every after. I didn't need Erica being

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>influenced by Whoopee and then the Max character showing that influence.

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's just how we come through life. That we

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>read you flame Monroe, and the next thing, you know,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it gives us courage to things we wouldn't normally do.

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and you have given permission, and so

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I would give a permission to change my hair and

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>do whatever I want. But in that thing, yes, you

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you you're there and it's dramatic, but you just try

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to remain Yeah see, I would think that me after

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the fact, I would be like, well, I need to

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>drink and I don't even drink because seeing that and

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 1>knowing what people went through, you know what I mean,

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>would be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>my god, Erica, I just and I love Whoopie. Thank

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you for acknowledging will be I fucking love Whoopi Goberg

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>as a as a comedian, as an actress. I don't

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>always agree with what she said on the view. When

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I get on that one day, IM gonna let her know, girl,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that, but it's gonna be in

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a good way because I admire and love with me

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>some Whoopie Goberg. I want to bring on a flame

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>man to speak with you, Erica, because I got the

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>greatest God Damn, I got the greatest fans you've ever

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>met in your life. My they my people, like the

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>old bed if the bee had was old, those are

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my fans. We won't fight you, but we're still your medication. Jane,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>where you at. I want to bring on the young

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Lady day t t J and who I told you

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>who said keep your head on sweep. But she's very worldly,

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>she's smart. All my things. All my people love you, Erica.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>First of all because they were they were listening to

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Karen Hunter when I was working with Karen Hunter and

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you were on, so they were all listening. So when

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I told them that you were coming on, they was like,

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we love Maxine. Show Attorney at Law.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>You know that's your name, Mexicine Show Attorney a Law.

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see you, Jane, you gotta sit where you

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>at the Maverick that she is right there. Somebody said

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna follow you. Now you're gonna get all they

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>they're real crazy too, but they love you for real.

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Hello Jane, Hello, Hello queen, and thank you for everything

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you do. Everything you do, because there was a topic

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of our conversation in the past where we were talking

0:41:55.040 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>about Indigenous women um go and missing alarming numbers as well,

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and so that made me kind of delved into my

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>sisters because if they're not being sought out or um

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>about their they're missing. I know that they weren't seeking

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>out black women as well, but I wanted to ask you,

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>have you, um in your experience are you getting that

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>these women um have been sold to like sex trafficking

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 1>or for their organs um If they're missing, then we

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, But have you gotten any kind of film

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's is greatly what has happened to them? Um?

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you first of all for your beautiful compliment. I

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that, and thank you for all that you're doing,

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and that the fact that aware and you're asking these

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>questions is a great thing. You know, don Darling, I

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>really don't know what's happening overall with these women. There

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>are huge sex trafficking networks that are real in America.

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>They got geraped very heavily in the Atlanta area d C.

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>That is true. What they're doing with them or their

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>bodies afterwards is anyone's guest. I can imagine that the

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>abuse and the mutilations may be very real. What the

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>problem is, it's, like I say, the data analysis of people,

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>they're not looking for them, so they already answers for

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with the one Amrath another. There's no uh

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Liam Neeson to come and like taken and suddenly burst

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in and saved them or do any of these things.

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's unacceptable. And I did think about that question.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 1>If they're missing, we don't know. It was always body Cool,

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, saw that as a good job to bring

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 1>them whoever to you know, it was just and you know,

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>some people thought it was a scare tactor. But you

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about people who have money on top of

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>money on top of money, you know, So I am like,

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've always thought about that. It has to

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>make some national news. This has to be like brought

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to the forefront of an attention, like often because like now,

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it now, but then you might not

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>hear about it again for three or four or five

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>months until somebody comes up missing. This needs to be

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about regularly, Erica, I love that you got that

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>new movie coming out where you're talking about missing when

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you said you're talking abou missing girls. Because they make

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a little documentaries about it all the time. But to me,

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it's never genuine. They never give you the whole story,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like you said about the one you were doing earlier

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>about Tamika. You have to get the entire story. They

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>only give you the tragic part. They don't never tell

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you about the part about this was a wonderful person.

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.479
<v Speaker 1>She was somebody's mom or sister. She had a job,

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>she had dreams, she had goals, she had a life

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to live. Y'all talk about that, y'all. Just but she

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>was at the wrong place at the wrong time. It's

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 1>not always that. It is not always that. This is

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's scary looking. I want to be a woman, But

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're right about me, I'm stronger than some of

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>these other women. I'm telling you, if I grab you

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to give you back much trouble blames. Let's be like,

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>let's go, we would we would come get you too.

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>That I appreciate that my sisters coming like power warries. Eric.

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question. I want to

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>because you've said you've been working since you were fourteen?

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>What is your what is your goal of success? What

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is success to you? Because everybody's a measure of success

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>is different, So what is success to you? Happiness? Um,

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>having a good sense of humor about life. Everything is difficult.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>How need to tell you that the industry is difficult,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>no more difficult than any corporate structure. UM. That the

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>hand part is that you're you're the instrument. You're putting

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>yourself out there. And there's so many systemic race and

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>gender and all these problems that we deal with when

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>we tell stories and storytelling. But I believe it's the

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>most noble um Um mission you could be on because

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>storytelling is how we tell the history of the world,

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that it's been filtered through a white male,

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>um mostly UH point of view is one of the

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>reasons why things are so fucked up. That police officer,

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>when he was kneeling and putting his knee on George

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Flord's neck, has been told the story that only he

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>could do it, he could do it with impunity, that

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>no one was holding accountable, that he wouldn't be responsible

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>for anything. But if we start showing those stories where

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they are held accountable, people think twice, they start showing

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that you can't do what that woman did in the

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.919
<v Speaker 1>till they're more than things. Twice, they won't do these

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>things as much because there's always to be issues. But

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I believe the storytelling and who we tell stories through,

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like Hugh Monroe, is important because somethingly we're expanding Fullman

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>once sitting, we've done more to expand not only the

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>history of the world, but to tell how we can

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 1>be human. And So when I'm when I'm thinking about

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 1>what I've learned the Four Teams, um, what I've learned

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is to just remain in my own body and try

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 1>not to let my ambitions drag me um um in

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a mental space where I can't enjoy what I do

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's so difficult to do any of the things.

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>It's so it's so I have to teach myself in

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>new skill sets, writing and directing and producing all these

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>things just to do the one thing I was good at,

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>or I thought I was good at which was was acting.

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>But it turns out I'm good at a lot of things.

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a good entertainer and I can tell stories. So

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>there you go. Thank you for that, Thank you for

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>saying what you said. Stay in your own body. Everybody's

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>level of success is different because I don't want to

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>be this the most famous training or the I just

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be happy being Flame Monroe and I want

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to continuously work now. I don't have to have an

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Oscar Emmy or not. I just I want to be

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to Sam Jackson, Sam always mess success to. I just

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>need that. Thank you for that. You know, Erica, that

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>whole situation us being black in Hollywood, and woo I sell.

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I see that Will Will showed us that he was human.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Thirty five years. Will has been the good house Negro.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>He has played by every rule they asked him. He

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>made one minor infraction, nobody died, nobody lost the limb,

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody went to jail. And I'm telling you we, as

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a people I'm talking about black people, are ready to

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.399
<v Speaker 1>just discard this man. I don't like that. I don't

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, but it's ingrained in our DNA. Just like

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you said back from the slavery days. The only reason

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>they caught us, let me go right way back. The

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>only reason we got caught was because they caught one

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>of us that told on all of us. Because we

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>are such an ingenious people. We were hitting in the woods.

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>The dogs couldn't even send us, couldn't smell us. We

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>were smart people. But you caught chicken, George, and gave

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>that nigga a piece of chicken, and say wait, they

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at he brought you to us, y'all gave y'all took

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the chicken back, took us and took that nigger. I'm

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>just telling you we do each other in more than

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 1>they do us in real talk ship. But the point

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of the black and brown women missing Erica, thank you

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:21.240
<v Speaker 1>for caring, Thank you forward speaking, Thank you for using

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>your platform to make a bring awareness because a lot

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of people don't know and a lot of young black

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.919
<v Speaker 1>sisters need to understand that because you think that they're

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you're free, and they will set you up. They had

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 1>a van here riding around and Long Beach a couple

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, a white van, and they will have

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a one white girl coming to ask you questions why

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the van was close so then she would grab you

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and pull you to the van. The van will come

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>up as nasty girls up. Oh. I walked around with

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>my hand jewelry all day long with my daughters because

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>hear me when I tell you, I will go to

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>prison for man, I've been there before anyway. Plus they

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>kick me out anyway. But it was such a scary situation,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 1>and more people need to You need to enstave of

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>fear in your children. Not fear that something can happen,

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but not fear that something will happen. Did but something

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>can happen to them. So I scared the ship out

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of my I did. I scared the hell out of

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>my daughters. But like Jane says, they keep their head

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on the swivel. Now they're very aware of what's going

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>on around them because it's not right in front of you.

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's behind you, it's on the side of you.

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's boom, there it is. I'm gonna put that on.

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put that tattoo right on my titty. Things

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>can be closer. This is laughing, Leert. We still gotta laugh, y'all. Ship,

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>we still gotta laugh. Erica, do you have any children,

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've got children, don't not of my own? No,

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>did you ever want children? I did. I did at

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>some point, and I had issues, you know, five ways

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of other issues. But you know what

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I got. My friends gave me their children. So well,

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.919
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, since you're taking is wait wait a minute,

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>since you're taking kids. I got a fifty year old

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm just she partty trained and everything. You who don't

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 1>be girl? If I showed you all this gray up

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 1>under this blonde, good god, this this was This was

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>so important for people to hear and understand that just

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>because you're an actress, just because you're a celebrity, things

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that that resonate with their farm a celebrity before they

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 1>are here from their own parents, because they will trust

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it more because you're your star, your celebrity. So I

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that you are transferred this information, which

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is what laugh and learning is about. We transfer information

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.760
<v Speaker 1>on this page, and you gave us so much information

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>and so much inside Erica, and I just I just

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>love you. Let me just say that, I just love you.

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I loved you from the day we interview. Don't care

0:51:54.080 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a hunter though, what I love you too? Quote I

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>love you, but actually, you know what, I'm not even kidding.

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I've seen all your breakfast club I've been Um, I'm

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>saying for real. I know you won't believe me what

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope you do. And I and I look forward

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to not only success, but I just I just love you.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>But I think that you are absolutely one of a

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>kind energy, just so smart, so smart, you know, and um,

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 1>amazing just power. But also there's such a beautiful gentleness

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 1>about you that I just adore. So I just think

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're gorgeous in every way. And thank you so

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>much for introducing laying to the world. Girls. Stop talking,

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 1>keep going, girl, keep going to order. You're with a

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>doctor order. You're like to me, You're like to me

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this centuries new sort of like, um, you know, if

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody's not a bad signal, flame to the rescue with you.

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Erica, and I hope that one day we

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>can work on a project together, because I would love

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to be like Maxine Shaw's the big brother. I could

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 1>be the big adopted brother. Your mama gave me up

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you came to a club and saw me,

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and I realized, girl, that's my mama. Wait a minute, Oh,

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that would be a dope. Eric could because of beautiful

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>women like yourself, Beautiful Black women like yourself inspires me,

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>It up lifts me to be a better and I'm

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:38.479
<v Speaker 1>a suit did they always want if you take the time,

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a joining me too. You just because he's

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.919
<v Speaker 1>antipa spay here that they eat there for it today,

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a little wherever you can for the poor People's campaign.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Reverend Barber joined that they're gonna be June eight. Can

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I say this please, superposition of black, brown, white, every

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>color in the world to change the politics on the ground.

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's not just dog our politics it's supports them. Let's

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 1>get out there and do something about it. Because we

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>can't just look and then just be critical. We have

0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to make sure we put ourselves out there in order

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to change things. Together, we can do it. I appreciate

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the time yere also the opportunity. Before you leave, I

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, because now you just open up

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>my man to ask you a question. Have you ever

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>considered jumping into the world of politics. We need more

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>black sisters. We need more black people period, but we

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.919
<v Speaker 1>definitely need more black sisters. Well, thank you so much.

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. You know, a couple of people have

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>asked me and honestly about it, and expect one of

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>my mentors, Hillary Clinton. She said, I love Hillary politics.

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I love her. I love her. People don't even understand.

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>They'd be like, you don't know, I said, know, you

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know because you can never back. Don't debate me

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>about Hillary. I'm like, I'll be like, I'm one of

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>her most travel surrogates. And I even um I designed

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>her campaign poster that she used in both cycles, the

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Hillary poster. But what I have, what I love about her,

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and what I love about anybody like her, is the

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>fact that people don't think the strong women need support.

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 1>And I say strong women need most support. That they

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 1>take it all on themselves, and they make it seem

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 1>like it's all like what it's like what they're doing.

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I don't possibly do it. Show

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what I've loved out because a lot of people need. You.

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Tell my girl Hillary that I said she would have

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>want if she had showed her a little more cleavage.

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>All she had do with show a little bit of cleavage, hey,

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and tell her I know that she think that she

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 1>was the strongest white woman in the strongest woman the world.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 1>But tell her she learned the great value of lesson

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>about how to stand by her man from from Corretta.

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Cause Corretta knew all Martin's bull bs and she's still

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>about her man quietly. That's what Hillary learned. I see

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>it to tell her. I see it yourself now, you

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 1>know I would love that, Eric, Eric, Ladies and your

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>mix the noise for my wonderful guest today, Miss Erica Alexander,

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Erica the Great Alexander Maxine Shaw Attorney. Girl, Let me

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>tell yourself. Was that your booty on the show or

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>did you stick your booty out because that booty used

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to be high and stuck out. Was that your booty?

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 1>It was at your walk? That was my booty. That

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't good. Don't be over here testing turning on my chime.

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 1>You know I'm a boy up under here. You better stop.

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take this week off with her to a player.

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You better not get off. Erica, thank you so much.

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You are wonderful. You are a wonderful woman. You are

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>an inspiring woman, and we appreciate you. Thank you so

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 1>much for me and my flame match, We appreciate you.

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining me for laughing. We'll talk. I

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>love you, appreciate you. Bye, lady Jim. Y'all makes a

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>noise for my very special guest, Erica Alexander. She was

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.359
<v Speaker 1>so wonderful. I missed my Lauren today, but she will

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 1>be back next week. I want you guys to follow

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Erica the Great Alexander on her page on Instagram and

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>listen to all her projects. I hope you guys took

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in all that she was sharing with us, especially as

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 1>far as young black and brown sisters missing in this

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>country and black and brown women period. Because everybody is

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody's mom or sister or cousin or somebody that was wonderful.

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you Flame Mess for being and thank you Jane.

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You guys know I could not do the show without you.

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you my boy Kenda. Y'all, y'all send up some

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>hards for Kendall. I appreciate you. I will see you

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>all on Love Lounge tonight. Thank you for joining us

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>for laughing, learned. The tickets for d C for my

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>birthday Laugh the Live, Laugh and Learn are still on sale.

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Go to the DC Comedy Level website, which is July fourteenth. Also,

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 1>we're doing four comedy shows on the fifteenth to sixty

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Jamaica Joy and hopefully will be joining me on the fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate you. Shout out to Charlemagne for giving

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<v Speaker 1>Erica and and Kevin Hartford giving her a space and

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I got the snatch. Look. Thank you flame, Matt.

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