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Speaker 1: Well, hello the Internet. Welcome to season seventy one, Episode

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Speaker 1: one of the Daily Zeitgeist podcast, where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness and maybe sometimes subconsciousness.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, February. My name is Myles Gray a k A.

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Speaker 1: Lay Lady Gray. Okay, thank you so much for that

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Speaker 1: short one from at sltis Hannah for that one, and

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Speaker 1: I am pleased to be joined once again by my

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Speaker 1: in Jack's absence, Miss Jamie loftis Jamie Lee. You know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna not read the rest. That's a soldier boy

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Speaker 1: in he was like that account. It's really been a

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Speaker 1: godsend they have. Yeah, and on this the last day

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Speaker 1: of you know, Jackie is going to be released from

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Speaker 1: pleased to be joined in studio whe our guests today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many hats can I say that this

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Speaker 1: person wears? Right now? Are the author, composer, podcaster, icon?

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Jessica Harper. Wow, I love icon. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: one of those like, well, hey, well welcome, you are

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Speaker 1: the icon. I love it. Jessica. How are you? I'm good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming by. Oh I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're so to have you. And you got a Independent

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Speaker 1: Spirit award recently. Yeah, yes, over the weekend. Correct, it

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Speaker 1: was the the Robert Altman Award for the Best Ensemble

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Speaker 1: right for Suspiria, for Suspiria The New, the Latest, Amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you the tired question that I

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Speaker 1: think I've seen your answer in every interview. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what is it like doing the first one and now

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Speaker 1: the second one? Or what's the difference? To ask me

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Speaker 1: that question? Response the boiler plate is it was great

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Speaker 1: both times. Did you like one over the other? No?

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Speaker 1: But they were very, very different. I loved both of them,

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Speaker 1: loved but I love the first one because I was

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Speaker 1: a because I was in Italy for four months. What's

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Speaker 1: not to like? About that working with this brilliant director

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Speaker 1: and just learning to speak Italian and and and ending

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Speaker 1: up in this Iconics being a icons movie that New

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Speaker 1: was going to over the next forty years morph into

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Speaker 1: the you know, so called one of the greatest horror

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Speaker 1: movies of all time. And then I got to be

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Speaker 1: in another Suspiria, which it seemed like a miracle, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing to me. And then I got to work

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Speaker 1: with Luca Guadanino and the what he's incredible, Well you

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Speaker 1: know you've seen, yes, others of his movies, Um call

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Speaker 1: me by your name. That particularly stands out in my

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Speaker 1: mind right now, right, and um, you know, he's just

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Speaker 1: he's also a brilliant director, and he really just let

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Speaker 1: to hang with Tom York in Venice. Wait, he was

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Speaker 1: Venice Film Festival. So it was all like looks and

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Speaker 1: Tom York. That was the what most people who know

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Speaker 1: me were the most impressed by that, like asking you

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Speaker 1: and planning like is he shy? Yeah? I need to know.

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Speaker 1: Did he dance a lot? He tell us a little

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Speaker 1: more about your podcast as well. I'd i'd love to

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Speaker 1: brag on. My podcast is called Winnetka. It's now now

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Speaker 1: an episode today is episode five, and uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: so it's like it's like, you know, a memoir that

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Speaker 1: has the voices of the characters in the memoir speaking

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Speaker 1: to you. And it also has a lot of original

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Speaker 1: And um, it's like what happened when you grew up?

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Speaker 1: And we're not go Illinois in the fifties and sixties, right, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that a little bit later, because I

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Speaker 1: have so many questions about that. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about. Little preview. Turns out

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Speaker 1: what we know so far. Adam Schiff, you know, calling

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Speaker 1: well as some other things good and dark, like any

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Speaker 1: day dealing with the news bag this. Yeah, but first, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that might reveal

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Speaker 1: a little bit about who you are? Well? I that happens.

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Speaker 1: I was looking up. I was googling the word safe.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Like? As if you're satisfied? No,

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Speaker 1: like say say okay. Now this is a much more

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Speaker 1: I was looking it up last night. So here's what

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Speaker 1: we spent all our summers romping on the beach. Right,

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Speaker 1: we're right on Lake Michigan. We go down the beach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little racist, but really yeah, hey, look they're

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of maybe hot brownies are overrated. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people right now. I don't

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Speaker 1: but and they were so power you know in those days.

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Speaker 1: Actually they were hash browning rights. How she's still a thing? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: off to a cartoon rabbit, which you know, there's been

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Speaker 1: other cartoon rabbit. So what about Roger rabbit. She was

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Speaker 1: cartoon rabber. She was a human marriage to a rabbit.

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Speaker 1: She married into the rabbit family, confusing rabbit, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean progressive, yes, very much, very much so interspecies marriage.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for the last thing, and that there was

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Speaker 1: a great on internet video called space Jam two that

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Speaker 1: Josh Fadom a couple of years ago that is now

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Speaker 1: being eclipsed by this space Jam two news, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to recommend everyone go back and watch Josh

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Speaker 1: Stadom Space Jam two. F A D E M. Space

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Speaker 1: Jam two. It's the animation is from another dimension, is

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Speaker 1: quite done in Microsoft paint. It. Okay, I was going

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Speaker 1: to throw people and be like you not since AVAC,

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Speaker 1: but yes, it's all Microsoft paint. It's such a great

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Speaker 1: video everyone. Also, there's a Yahoo one where they treat

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Speaker 1: that game between the Tune Squad and the mon Stars

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Speaker 1: as an actual sporting event with like real ESPN pundance

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Speaker 1: being like, I remember that game. I mean, the fouls

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Speaker 1: the Monstars were committing I'd never seen before. It's like

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Speaker 1: the most dry mockumentary. So check that out. All right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back. So let's just I mean, so much

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Speaker 1: political news to get through. So you know, the murmurs

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Speaker 1: around the campfire out there in d C, or that

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller is ready to drop his report at any moment.

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Speaker 1: It could have even been dropped by the time, I mean,

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Speaker 1: as this recording has not been released or submitted at

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Speaker 1: least to the d o J. But a lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel that it is very imminent UM DC right now,

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Speaker 1: they're like, could drop whenever, we don't know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: could surprise you with an album. Do you think he'll

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Speaker 1: release a video album? I hope it's a concept it's

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Speaker 1: a concept report about the Russia probe. You're yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's al yeah, like a high art where there's only

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Speaker 1: like three videos in existence and you can watch him

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Speaker 1: pelic space. Um. But anyway, there's many things sort of

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Speaker 1: swirling around this imminent submission of the report. I mean,

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Speaker 1: some people say it might not be in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Other people point to different timelines. Um.

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Speaker 1: But just to put things into perspective, Michael Cohen is

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Speaker 1: finally going to be testifying in front of the Senate

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Speaker 1: and House committees UH this week. On Tuesday, it's a

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Speaker 1: closed session. Wednesday will be an open session, followed by

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Speaker 1: another closed session on Thursday. UM. If you need a

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Speaker 1: little refresher on what Michael Cohen is in trouble for,

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Speaker 1: let's remember there's campaign finance violations when he was giving

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Speaker 1: hush payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall. Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know he lied to Congress about a bunch of this

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Speaker 1: stuff in addition to pursuing a Trump Tower Moscow deal

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Speaker 1: very very deep into the election, when you know Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump was claiming up and down. Oh, I don't know Russia.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know Russia. Where is Russia? What is

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Speaker 1: that is that? I've heard of Prussia, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think that exists anymore. So many people have the same

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Speaker 1: litany of crimes. It gets very confused. Yeah, exactly, shift

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Speaker 1: through all this. I mean, luckily has a team of people,

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Speaker 1: which is what Another thing that people point to that

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Speaker 1: it's winding down, is that a lot of the people,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was slowly sort of closing different uh,

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Speaker 1: or he was slowly like rapping for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better word. He's a production term. Some of the people

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Speaker 1: on his team who were like the prosecutors and investigators

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Speaker 1: he had brought on for the investigation. Uh, they're beginning

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Speaker 1: to report back to their old bosses and saying I'll

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Speaker 1: be back to work pretty soon. So that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: a sign. Another one you know, the d o J

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Speaker 1: people are Matt Whittaker. If you want to believe Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Dick Toilet, as we call him, the man who

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Speaker 1: patented the terrible toilet. I'm sorry, Yes, Dick Toilet esquire

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Speaker 1: saying that it would be over soon. Um and as

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Speaker 1: well as like Rod Rosenstein. You know, he's leaving I

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Speaker 1: think in mid March, and that was contingent on him

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Speaker 1: seeing out the Moller investigation. So I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: that I think mid March is a probably the latest.

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Speaker 1: It will probably be for everyone's sanity. But then what

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Speaker 1: happens when then does he So that's the thing I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think for people like us in the

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Speaker 1: general public, we probably won't know much for a while,

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Speaker 1: but it all depends, right. So William Barr, who's now

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, has said that he's going to act

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Speaker 1: within Department of Justice norms and guidelines regarding reports like this,

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Speaker 1: which means, if you really stuck to the letter of

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Speaker 1: the law, all he's obligated to do is tell Congress

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Speaker 1: Mueller gave me the report and that's that, and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even have to share with them. People are going

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Speaker 1: to make such a right so that's that doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: very feasible. They'll probably be some kind of I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he'll definitely report to Congress, but they might not be

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Speaker 1: able to say anything. There's a way where Robert Mueller

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Speaker 1: could also file a report that doesn't have any classified

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Speaker 1: or sensitive information with redactions. That's more of like a

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Speaker 1: very general ten thousand foot view of what he discovered,

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Speaker 1: uh in the investigation, So we don't quite know, I mean.

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Speaker 1: And also if the report is so damaging that it

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Speaker 1: would be absurd for the Department of Justice to not

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Speaker 1: try and raise some kind of issue about what he found,

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Speaker 1: It's possible that they would want to submit it to

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Speaker 1: the public or have some version that the public could see,

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Speaker 1: which would most likely cause the White House to sue

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Speaker 1: and it would be a very long court battle before

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Speaker 1: I mean, the version that the d o j will

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Speaker 1: see with all like the evidentially all the evidence and

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Speaker 1: things like that, we probably wouldn't see for years. I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to think of, like what is a

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Speaker 1: comparable I mean, the only thing I can think of

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Speaker 1: is the Star Report of like a government report that

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Speaker 1: will absolutely go viral and have these gigantic implications. But

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Speaker 1: the difference what is that the Star report was like

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Speaker 1: hard copies and also many you could get. The law

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Speaker 1: was different around those kinds of special counsel investigations back then.

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Speaker 1: So now this abides by a new law that was

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Speaker 1: created in regarding this, and even in those sidelines, it

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Speaker 1: actually says like they wanted to keep special counsel like

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Speaker 1: these investigations or at least the reports from becoming too

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Speaker 1: broad that the only things that they can actually thought,

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Speaker 1: they'll report on our actual crimes that violate United States

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Speaker 1: legal codes. So anything that's like untoward or unsavory or

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Speaker 1: shady that we would be like, why wouldn't you talk

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Speaker 1: about that? Because it might not have been technically like

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Speaker 1: a crime that might not make that won't make it

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Speaker 1: in We need to get a deep throat going yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think I have a feeling with just you know,

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Speaker 1: with what's at stake with people in the FBI writing

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Speaker 1: books being like I've I started to investigate a counterintelligence

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Speaker 1: operation because I thought there was a chance that President

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Speaker 1: could be some kind of Russian operative or be under

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Speaker 1: it could have been compromised by the Kremlin. I think

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Speaker 1: there's probably there are some details we clearly don't know.

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Speaker 1: That are very pressing, but we might not know. But

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Speaker 1: again I don't think I think for me personally, and

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Speaker 1: I think on the show we've talked that you try

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Speaker 1: not to fully, you know, put all of our hopes

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Speaker 1: and dreams in the Mueller investigation basket is like the

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Speaker 1: the salve that will soothe this open wound of the

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Speaker 1: Trump presidency. But you know, we'll see. I mean, Sarah

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Speaker 1: Sanders is confident. She was saying, like, I think it

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Speaker 1: will be like I think will be cleared. But at

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00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: the same time, Rudy Giuliani says like, well, if it clears,

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Speaker 1: the president will move on. If it doesn't, we'll fight back.

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Speaker 1: And I have a feeling Sarah Sarah, Yeah, yeah, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sarah's just a problem child at least favorite

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Speaker 1: person in the administration possible. I mean, Steven Miller. I

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Speaker 1: think Steven Millard probably takes that that one. Rudy giuliani

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00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Is reactions to things is always pretty telling of what

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Speaker 1: is actually going to happen, because he seems to have

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Speaker 1: little to no impulse control and just says exactly He's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll fight the thing right away. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so you do know what's going to happen. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I don't, unless we don't, in which case

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Speaker 1: will move on. But there are reports that the White

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Speaker 1: House even already has like a rebuttal package ready to go. Yeah, secretly,

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Speaker 1: they'll be like, okay, what did you do? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: this is how we'll try to spin it. So, like

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Speaker 1: I said, Michael Cohen, he'll be going up to tell

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Speaker 1: the Senate and House everything. I guess that he knows,

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Speaker 1: although he did lie to them already, we're not quite

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Speaker 1: sure what he's going to tell them that will be new,

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Speaker 1: considering that he's already played guilty, uh, and all of

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Speaker 1: his crimes are recorded. So I think this is more

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Speaker 1: of a tour for him to act like he's very sorry,

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Speaker 1: he regrets all the deception, his actions, the laws he broke,

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Speaker 1: the crimes he committed, and he's a new man because

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Speaker 1: you know, his sentencing is coming up, and that's I

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Speaker 1: don't know about. Yeah, I've heard that from a lot

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00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: of man. Yeah, exactly. No, I don't trust anyone who

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Speaker 1: has gone this far to lie about things that they're

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Speaker 1: I think you have to know being a new man

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Speaker 1: right before your sentence in hearing tired. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: idea that somebody is going to get off scott free

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Speaker 1: for rat fucking the election more than like people who

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Speaker 1: are committing like real crimes and love love it. It's

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Speaker 1: it's become a very new term in describing all this

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Speaker 1: rushes stuff. Yeah you think that you like those people? Actually,

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Speaker 1: no matter even if you like, oh I rolled on everybody,

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Speaker 1: can that be forgiven? Like, no, you need to see

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Speaker 1: the inside of a jail for a long time, my friend.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see what happens. And hey, look,

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Speaker 1: if something happens with the Mother Report and things do change,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll my heart will change. But it's amazing. I

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Speaker 1: would I mean I would love to be wrong about Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: I think we all would, but I think wrong about

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00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: things right. But yeah, we've become very cynical last two years.

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Speaker 1: Um and oh, just to check in with Roger Stone

607
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Speaker 1: because last week we spoke about how you know the

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Speaker 1: judge presiding over his case that he posted on Instagram

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Speaker 1: with a cross Year's imagine near her face one of

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Speaker 1: the worst photo shops of our time. My husband went

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Speaker 1: to school with Amy Burman. Oh really, they go way back.

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Speaker 1: To childhood. Yeah, so he's sold girlfriend. Oh wow, deviny

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Speaker 1: gossip gossip? What was Amy like, No, she's brilliant. I

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Speaker 1: bet she's she's a tough fast Well that's very clear

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Speaker 1: because I wouldn't be so scared of her, right Well,

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Speaker 1: if he knew that, he wouldn't have done the dumb

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Speaker 1: thing anyway. So she basically called him in and said,

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Speaker 1: you need to show costs, like why did you do this?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to take your filing of apology

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Speaker 1: as like a remedy to this um because he was

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Speaker 1: already like he was already out on bond, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you have you have to follow rules still here, like

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Speaker 1: you can't just try and incite violence or something or

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Speaker 1: bring suspicion on like this court with your cheeky Facebook

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Speaker 1: or Instagram posts, which is people whould say she went

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Speaker 1: easy on him, you know, like yeah, they felt that. Yo,

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00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: he could have just been put in jail until this

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: whole things sorted out and really affected his liberty, but

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Speaker 1: she decided to say, look, you have just don't talk

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Speaker 1: at all about anything. Essentially, the gag orders do not

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Speaker 1: speak about anything or anyone having to do with this case.

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Speaker 1: The Ivy. That is almost strategic because the longer he's

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Speaker 1: out on bond, the more he fux himself over. And

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Speaker 1: that's I mean that Instagram post is proof positive of like,

635
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: if he's allowed to walk around freely, he's gonna be

636
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: buying steampunk stuff. He's going to be talking ship, and

637
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: he's going to be making a situation way worse hopefully.

638
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: That's I think even more than jail. Him not being

639
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: allowed to talk and just shoot off at the mouth

640
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: could be the worst case scenario for him. Um, she's smart. Yeah,

641
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: so we'll see what what happens with Roger. But yeah,

642
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: the only thing he can talk about is to you know,

643
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: proclaim his innocence and to beg for money and sell

644
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Roger stones. Yeah, that is she. She did let allow

645
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: him to, you know, ask for funds for his legal

646
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: defense fund because it's expensive, as you said, fighting off

647
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: the federal Roger stone swag. Yeah, well he had Roger stones.

648
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: He was literally selling stones his name on them, Yeah,

649
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: and stones. In a way, I really not that it

650
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: broke my heart because he's just a vile creature, but

651
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: almost like when you've reached the end of your well

652
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: of like creativity and Rogers. What roger Stones are currently

653
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: on sale? They are? How much? They were twelve dollars

654
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: now they're ten dollars on Oh you meant like they're

655
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: on sale, like they've gone on sail on sale, but

656
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: now they're discounted. I want to wait till it goes

657
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: to five. Yeah. Honestly though, I have a feeling if

658
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: if you want to Roger Stone, I'll make you one.

659
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm want to go to the I'll pick up a

660
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: fucking rock and Roger brand roger Stones bootleg. Yeah. Then yeah,

661
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: go to the Santi Alley and pitch pitch him over

662
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: there and then donated it to candidates we like boom. Um,

663
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: so yes, so that you know all that to say

664
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: that we should know somewhat shortly whether or not we

665
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: know anything about this Muther report. Um, But that kind

666
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: of feeds into the next stories that Adam Schiff wrote

667
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: a fairy and I guess nice letter in the Washington Post.

668
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: He was basically telling you it's called an open letter

669
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: to my Republican colleagues, in which he's just saying, you, guys,

670
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: how long are you going to let this happen? Like

671
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: the President is clearly like on a path to even

672
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: hijack the power of the purse that Congress has like

673
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: in that branch of government, along with all the other

674
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: horrible things that have happened. When are you gonna wake up? So,

675
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: just like the crux of this letter is in this paragraph,

676
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: he says to my Republican colleagues, when the President attacked

677
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: the independence of the Justice Department by intervening in a

678
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: case in which he was implicated, you did not speak out.

679
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: When he attacked the press as the enemy of the people,

680
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: You again were silent. When he targeted the judiciary, labeling

681
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: judges and decisions he didn't like his illegitimate, we heard

682
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: not a word. And now he comes for Congress, the

683
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: first branch of government, seeking to strip strip it of

684
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: its greatest power, that of the purse. Many of you

685
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: have acknowledged your deep misgivings about the President and quiet

686
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: conversations over the past two years. You have bemoaned his

687
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: lack of decency, character, and integrity. You have deplored his

688
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: fundamental inability to tell the truth. But for reasons that

689
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: are all too easy to comprehend, you have chosen to

690
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: keep your misgivings and your rising alarm private. That must end.

691
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: The time for silent disagreement is over. You must speak out.

692
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: I want to take bets on whether or not I

693
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: was gonna speak out that if children being just torn

694
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: apart from their families and doing irreparable damage to their

695
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: psyches their development wasn't enough for them to speak out,

696
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: or the myriad of other things he could have just

697
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: he could have just listed, had a whole list of

698
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: things they didn't speak out about. I don't know, let's

699
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: go right back to the word. Yeah, I don't know

700
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: what will I mean, it's you know, it's too bad

701
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: Adams figuring out all of his friends are cartoon villains

702
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: and they're not responding to him in the group text anymore.

703
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: He's like, what if we were nice? And there's no reply,

704
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: a lot of thumbs down reacts. What's true? Like that's

705
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: the one consistent thing you always read since the beginning,

706
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: like since he since Trump got the nomination, was so

707
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: many GOP politicians like off the record, we're just groaning

708
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: and rolling their eyes and like couldn't believe what was

709
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: going on yet, you know, I think because his bass

710
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: is so vocal, they're just again they just fear this

711
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: basse that he has cultivated and they don't want to

712
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: get they don't want to be on the receiving into that.

713
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think the timing of this

714
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: letter may if the Mother Report is soon to come out.

715
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he is the head of the House Intel Committee,

716
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: so I'm sure he knows a few things that are

717
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: probably uh kind of messy for lack of a better word,

718
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: for sure, maybe hoping like you know, a for effort

719
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: Adam Schiff, Right, but he does he does get a's.

720
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's occasionally, he gets a's rather often

721
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: for his behavior, but this one is like he's the

722
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, well, I means for Democrats. Yeah, I mean,

723
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: I think everyone's ready to you know, if someone was like, Okay,

724
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I think we have the votes to impreach, maybe we'll

725
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: do it. Maybe not. But I think he at the

726
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: very least is really just I think he realizes this,

727
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: the way things are moving right now, with all this

728
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of evidence that this person is unfit to

729
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: hold the office just right there in front of you.

730
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: You admit it privately at the detriment of the country,

731
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you're not actually doing anything.

732
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: I think he really sees that that is really one

733
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: of the more fundamental things, like Russia or not, that

734
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: the party itself, the GOP itself, needs to find a

735
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: spine in which case, because it's at this point they're

736
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: doing damage to the country. So who is benefiting really

737
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: aside from the millionaires and billionaires, right, and especially it's like,

738
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: if the GOP is to survive the Trump presidency at all,

739
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: if Trump is taken down to any degree by the

740
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Russia report, the GOP has to like have some stance

741
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: of we don't completely condone this right now, or they're

742
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of they're fucking toasts, like there's

743
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: no damned if they do, and probably damned if they don't. Yeah,

744
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the world is damned. Yeah. I mean,

745
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: if you can just get a group of people who

746
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: could just you know, speak up, they would be idolized.

747
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody spoke up. That awesome, because then because

748
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Trump can't get rid of all of them, right exactly,

749
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: I would just be too weird. Yeah, I mean, their

750
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: strength in numbers, and Jeff Flake would always sort of

751
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: pretend like he was about to be that Republican with

752
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: a conscience and then just be like, no, I guess,

753
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: I guess break already. Yeah, No, he's actually really cool.

754
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I love beer. I mean when he said beer, you know,

755
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: I can't I can't talk down on beer really humanized him.

756
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: For me, I'm one of the freaking boys. This letter

757
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: reminds me of like me realizing in college that everyone

758
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: in my improv group was evil, Like you're just like, hey, guys,

759
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: Jamie here wondering why we're also awful? Anyone ever thought

760
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: about that? And then just like, no, did you have

761
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: an awful improv group? Oh terrible? Yeah, Like it was

762
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: just toxic. It was both not funny and extremely toxic,

763
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: like I think existing improv uh. And just a quick update.

764
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: In North Carolina's ninth district, we talked about how Mark

765
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: Harris his own son father son drama. I saw that

766
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: video finally where he was like, you know, I love

767
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: my parents, but this is wrong essentially. And yeah, then

768
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: I did see that clip of him just like sobbing

769
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: in the court. He was just like, you know, he's

770
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: a preacher who you know, playing some games with the

771
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: election fraud. So now the North the North Carolina State

772
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: Board of Elections, they voted five to nothing to hold

773
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: a do over election special election to get that thing

774
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: going again, because it's clear that there was just massive

775
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: amounts of election fraud being but by any means necessary.

776
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think that's been the mentality of

777
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: the GOP, like, especially since Obama took office, where it's like,

778
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: let's just figure out how to stack the deck in

779
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: any possible way, whether that's jerrymandering or just stacking courts

780
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. Uh. And you know, it seemed like this

781
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: sort of form of duping people out of their absentee

782
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: ballots to goose the numbers for you know, a candidate

783
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: stupid do they think everybody is? I don't know. And

784
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: it's still we talked about this, uh in the last

785
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: episode as well. But just the fact that this is

786
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: such a blip of a story is an indication of

787
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: how crazy things are right now, because in any other

788
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: like in a calmer political climate, people would be like,

789
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, what what a disc what we're dealing

790
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: We have so many disgraces happening simultaneously, one doesn't really

791
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: stand out and relief against all the exactly. And then

792
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: there when you also think about, you know, when Trump

793
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: was claiming like in New Hampshire, the kind of the

794
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: fake voters who were like busting from god knows where

795
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: to like vote for Hillary. And then in California is

796
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: claiming millions of whatever you have this like voter fraud

797
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: panel he put together that Mike Pence was leading. They

798
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: wrapped their thing up saying, we found no evidence of

799
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: any of these allegations. Yet they are just silent right

800
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: now over this. But of course, you know, I think

801
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it to do with like the audacity

802
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: of them to keep trying this kind of stuff. Is

803
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: up to this point, a lot of these people have

804
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: been living in a consequence free world, so there was

805
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: no there was no like sort of subconscious feeling of

806
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: there to be like, you know, repercussions for their actions,

807
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: because if you've done something over and over again and

808
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: nothing's happened, or like it's just bad press, then maybe

809
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: there's no reason for even at the highest office in

810
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: the lane, there's no repercussions, right, all these egregious the

811
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Trump does one thing after the next and nothing ever happened,

812
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: So why should ending happen? And yeah, Rank exactly, Well,

813
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I think that's why, you know, slowly we'll see what

814
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: happens in the in this next election, we can put

815
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: someone else in, just make him a one term president

816
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: because now a lot of yeah, yeah, What's interesting though

817
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: about a lot of these Democratic presidential presidential candidates, uh,

818
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: like Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, Julie and Castro. They've

819
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: recently been really outspoken about their support for reparations for

820
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: black Americans, which is not like what black person, I'm like, wait,

821
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: really okay, because Obama was was like, I don't know,

822
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: it's impractical, and the Clintons were not about it. Bernie

823
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: was not about it. Bernie was like, you can't find

824
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: the votes. It's it's it's like it's too big of

825
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: an idea. Those are the same arguments people gave against

826
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: his policies things too so please Bernie come on. Hasn't

827
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: really addressed it recently this week. No, he's not. You know,

828
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: he's yet to meant on it fully. I'm sure, I mean,

829
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: based on the other candidates that have, he'll probably have

830
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: something to say. Um. I mean, Kamala Harris has come

831
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: out and just basically said, uh to The New York Times,

832
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: said we have to be honest that people in this

833
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: country do not start from the same place or have

834
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: access to the same opportunities. I'm serious about taking an

835
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: approach that would change policies and structures and make real

836
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: investments in black communities. Now, yeah, the not everyone is

837
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: too specific on what exactly they would do because it's

838
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: a really nuanced issue. You can't just cut checks for

839
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: people and then be like, okay, uh in inequalities solved

840
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: because we cut a bunch of checks. I mean, if

841
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: you gave everybody there forty acres in a mule back,

842
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: then maybe we would be looking at something else because

843
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: we would have people who owned land and we're able

844
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: to do something with it. But that isn't the case.

845
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: And a lot of different economists and the other social

846
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: justice warriors out there, you know, point to the idea

847
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of the remedies or proposals that have

848
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: been put or about reparations are mostly income based and

849
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: they aren't actually really addressing solutions that directly address the

850
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: disparity between races. And I think that's something that I

851
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: think would be a great conversation to have with candidates

852
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: because this country has yet to have a real reckoning

853
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: with the history of slavery and the the you know,

854
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: the idea that most people color in this country are

855
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: they're still living under different dimensions of oppression that have

856
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: existed for centuries now out. Yeah, but Elizabeth Warren, she

857
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: didn't give any further info, but actually had a very

858
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: interesting proposal because she was not that this was about

859
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: reparations directly, but she did call for the federal government

860
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: to basically subsidize, like just have special home buying assistants

861
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: for down payments for residents of communities that were affected

862
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: by redlining, which is, you know, the racist practice of

863
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: just carving out places for people of to live and

864
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: then denying the mortgages in other areas, so to sort

865
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: of naturally begin corral with people of color and segregate people.

866
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: I think so we'll see, I'd be really interesting. I mean,

867
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: it's I I think it's great that it's entered the

868
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: conversation at all. But I hope that, you know, candidates

869
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: start getting more specific about because it seems like this

870
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: could be a very different uh, Like each candidate could

871
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: view addressing this problem very differently, and it might be

872
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: interesting and productive to see, you know, how we could

873
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: combine some of the solutions. Yeah, the one person who

874
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: has actually tabled like a specific plan for reparations is

875
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Marian Williamson, who is the author and self described spiritual teacher.

876
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, she's a long shot, but she's called for

877
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: a hundred billion dollars in reparations for black Americans. Uh.

878
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure how that would be used, but

879
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: she was like, a hundred billion dollars sounds great, great,

880
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, when you're dealing with systemic racism

881
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: and things like that, those are the things that actually

882
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 1: have to be dismantled and taken down first to even

883
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: begin for people of color to you know, have live

884
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: in some kind of equitable world or country at the

885
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: very least. So we'll see, all right, let's take a

886
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

887
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: And I just want to point out I just want

888
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: to shout out Pinterest because it seems like they're one

889
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: of the only major social media platforms that is taking

890
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: a stance on the issues of anti vaxers. Uh. Pinterest

891
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: they've seen just sort of an uptick just over the

892
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: years on how people like we're interacting with anti vaction

893
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: material like on their site. In they said of the

894
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: posts related to vaccinations were anti So that resulted in

895
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: the platform putting in language that said they banned anything

896
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: that promotes false cures for terminal chronic illnesses and anti

897
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: vaccination advice. Uh so that was in their community guylines.

898
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: But now they've gone a step further and they've completely

899
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: removed search terms like vaccine, vaccines, vaccinations, vaccination, and anti vax.

900
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: Because Jenny McCarthy just deleted her her Pinterest account, I

901
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: know her other boards were great though, sad. I know, yeah, bathrooms.

902
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: I love Nantucket bathroom great. Yeah, great inspiration of your

903
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: try art. Yeah, a lot of really good boards she's rocking.

904
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Suspicions about who's who in the mass singer is that,

905
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean a host of them. I didn't realize you

906
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: could really use Pinterest for putting together that kind of information.

907
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: I've always used it as like, uh, like putting together

908
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: like sort of design ideas, like when you're buying shoes

909
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: and you're just buying shoes wall paper. My friends use

910
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: it to like oppressively be like here are the bridesmaid

911
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: stress as we are going to get there all five

912
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: million dollars and they're ugly. You know, there's have you

913
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: ever been part of like wedding pinterest boards I have.

914
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: My daughter just got Mary, so I had been Yeah,

915
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: absolutely tons of these pictures of it's vast, but it's

916
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: more like a way to just collect keep your ideas together, right,

917
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: and be like, oh like this, we don't like that.

918
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: How just completely out of flowers. There's so many ups

919
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: with flowers on. Oh I'm sure. Yeah, they're beautiful actually,

920
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: and they all cost five million dollars. Yeah, exactly, and

921
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: at least they can all be aggregated in one place

922
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: to know, like, well, we really can't afford that build

923
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: the frame for the hoop of yourself higher floorists to

924
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: just attach flowers to it, or just drag some of

925
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: the bougainbilio. If you're back here, put on some BBC piping.

926
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, uh, but yeah. So, And like I said,

927
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: they have taken the stance because it's very clear that

928
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: the anti vaccination movement has created a very clear public

929
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: health risk. I grew up in a time when there

930
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: were no vaccines in the fifties, and my mother I

931
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: have a recording of her in my podcast saying we

932
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: had everything we had months, we had the measles, we

933
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: had the chicken bugs, we had the German measles. We

934
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: had one after the next. I'm telling you it's a

935
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: very messy. Yeah, that's a whole other thing. And there's

936
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: a death sounds strains. Yeah, that sounds like a post

937
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: war like pump up where it's like and German musics,

938
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: just like children can die of the same diseases sailors

939
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: once died of. And it's funny because people do always

940
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: point to the fact that they're like, well, our parents

941
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: are alive and they didn't have vaccines, and it's like, uh,

942
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: but like, as you say, there were also many other

943
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: people who were affected by it, may have lost their

944
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: lives and may have lived through that. But that's why

945
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: we're at a place now where we try and create

946
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: herd immunity for people who might be vulnerable. It's nice

947
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: to see a social media platform of any kind take

948
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: progressive stance on something because it just seems like every

949
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: news update with Facebook is a ship show night uh,

950
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Tumbler removing all adult content that had like a bunch

951
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: of weird ramifications as well. It's just social media platforms

952
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: have such a terrible history of making the wrong wide

953
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: decision that it's like all right, interests, if you're going

954
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: to remove anti vaccine, I mean, that's the best news

955
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: I've heard from a social media platform. Because Twitter won't

956
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: get rid of all the Nazis. It's kind of escalating.

957
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Don't you think that all these like they're all starting

958
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to get a little more conscious, aren't there a little bit?

959
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: I think they know Facebook is waging a war in Asia,

960
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: so like they understand how it looks. I think now

961
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: they understand how it looks. I think that's what that

962
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: phase they're in right now, about how it looks than

963
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: how it is. Well. I think more so that they're

964
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: like their first and things like oh, this looks bad,

965
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: and then a few more controversies will then be like oh,

966
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: I guess we should do something about it. But right

967
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: now it's just like it looks bad because yeah, there

968
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: was a story earlier this week I think about Facebook.

969
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: They were allowing people who wanted to buy ads to

970
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: target people whose interests were in like Nazis. Oh yeah.

971
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I think Facebook is just figuring out like, oh, it's

972
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: bad optics to be like war mongerers who accept anyone's money. Ever, um,

973
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: and you're good for them, but up stop, just like

974
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: removing things and start being progressive like to well, right,

975
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: there's no like exactly. And Facebook even allowed the promotion

976
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: of anti vax propaganda, like by finding users who were

977
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: curious about vaccine controversies. But again and everyone was like,

978
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: why are you allowing these people to just bombard your

979
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: users with misinformation that is not even based in science. Yeah,

980
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: and then Mark Zuckerberg is like, I don't know. They

981
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: gave me five dollars, so I don't know. It adds up,

982
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: it adds up. I have my price yep. Uh. And

983
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: just a cautionary tale I wanted to bring up because

984
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: this could have been me. In fact, it was me

985
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: on my Space in two thousand four. But let me

986
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: just read you from the Idaho State Journal, Uh, this

987
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: story about a man who was using social media uh

988
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: in an inappropriate way. It says a Facebook post requesting

989
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: fast food in exchange for an illegal substance led to

990
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: the arrest of an Idaho falls man. The Idaho for

991
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: His Police department took twenty two year old Brian star

992
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Lipper interest into custody after searching his home at three

993
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: ones blah blah blah. They give his address. Star Lipper

994
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: had posted on his personal Facebook page earlier that day,

995
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: offering a graham of marijuana wax to anyone who would

996
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: bring him McDonald's or burger King marijuana wax. So that

997
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: is that was that was, That's what I was referring to.

998
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: So the wax concentrated form of marijuana, which they now

999
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: Dad would call him dabs in the street. That's what

1000
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, that's what stupid. I know. No, wonder

1001
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: you didn't infiltrate that Team gang. I know You're like, Dad,

1002
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: You're just like dabbing, right, They're like, what, lady, you're

1003
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: out of the scooter game? Lime Gang? Oh, Lime Scooter Gang. Yeah,

1004
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I just it's so funny to me that

1005
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: a why is somebody snitching on this guy? He was

1006
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: clearly just a lazy stoner who was saying, like, this

1007
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: is the barter economy. It seems like a fair shake.

1008
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, he had me at Star Lipper, Yeah, stuck

1009
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: on them, what do you think? Yeah? Right? Or he

1010
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: has like a really weird bottom lip. This is really,

1011
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, a scourge on the star Liipper name, and

1012
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: I want to stand for it or maybe is it

1013
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: pronounced star lipper, star Lipper? We don't know where the emphascist.

1014
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: There's only one piece, so maybe it's Star Lieper. I

1015
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to say Star Lieper. Let's stick with Star Lipper.

1016
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: That's the only way. I'm sure we'll be talking about

1017
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: him a lot. Yeah, I can't move on thinking his

1018
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: name is starting. Will be running for Congress, Yeah, pretty

1019
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: soon enough. I need to know how to pronounce that.

1020
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: And I would vote him because he would probably have

1021
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: some pretty interesting ideas on the economy. Although I would

1022
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: say that, I mean, like, in California, a graham of

1023
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: marijuana wax for like the good stuff would be well

1024
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: over fifty dollars, so hopefully he was asking for fifty

1025
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: dollars or the fast food. If he was like, I'll

1026
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: give you fifty dollars worth of this drug for a Hamburger,

1027
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: and I would have serious concern about this man. Don't

1028
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: want to have him at any sea. And I mean,

1029
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: but he's a giver. He is justice Justice for Star Lipper. Jessica,

1030
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. So tell us

1031
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more about your podcast, because the really

1032
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: interesting thing you said to me before we started recording

1033
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: was sort of the idea that if you think about

1034
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: it nearly any family, if you dig deep enough or

1035
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: just sort of try and tell the tale of your family,

1036
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: any families probably gonna be a fascinating So I really

1037
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: believe that. I start, as I was telling you, I

1038
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: I you know, someone suggested that I do a podcast

1039
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: about my family, and I said, what, why would anyone?

1040
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: And then I It didn't take much time. I just went, oh,

1041
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: I see here's this. There's a couple of stories to

1042
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: go through. There's a few threads that are actually, I think,

1043
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: really really interesting. I think that's true. Anybody can almost

1044
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: everybody has some form of family, and there's there's got

1045
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: to be a story, and there you find the story

1046
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: and try to find a way to tell it compellingly.

1047
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: You can have your you two can have a podcast,

1048
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: not just when we have to talk about other people's lives.

1049
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I could do one just about my parents divorce. Oh,

1050
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: I could do one about my parents yeast ever the

1051
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: podcast called Everybody's Divorce. Was there anything like like that

1052
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: you had discovered? Was there sort of like a central

1053
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: narrative that you knew going into your like that your

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: friend was like, Jessica, you got those stories about your family.

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Speaker 1: Did sort of start from there or were you kind

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Speaker 1: of forced to try and find something now there were Well,

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Speaker 1: the truth is I have just you know, just a

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Speaker 1: surface description of my family that I do have some

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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: nutty ship going on, right. So, um, you know, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of I have five siblings and you know,

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Speaker 1: they all there's some weird stuff. So there was enough

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Speaker 1: already just to get started. And then but then there's

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Speaker 1: also some stuff some threads. As I mentioned, there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a thread that has to do with racism. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to say that this affects my family history and

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Speaker 1: affected my father's father, um for example, Um and uh.

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Speaker 1: But this tells the story. It also refers to all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that we went through growing up in the

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Speaker 1: fifties and sixties. We grew up in this you know

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Speaker 1: town when Nta, Illinois, which was very sheltered, prosperous, beautiful,

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: pretty little town where nothing ever happens except that, of

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Speaker 1: course below the surface, there's all this gnarly stuff going on, right,

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Speaker 1: So there was there's a little bit of you know,

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the threads is like what America was

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: like that that's when America was great, just just coming right,

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Speaker 1: just coming out of World War two economic boom, and

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Speaker 1: all the men are coming out of the war and uh,

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: they just get shoved right into this economy and they

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Speaker 1: start commuting with their fedoras on their heads. And my

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Speaker 1: father was one of those guys. But you know, they

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Speaker 1: never got to talk about you know, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that, well, that's what my

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01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: father had, the PTSD. And my mother tell us about

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: this in the podcast, and she's you know, there was

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Speaker 1: for example, my father's a marine. He's in the South Pacific.

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Speaker 1: He's in a fox hole with his comrades. They've been

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Speaker 1: fighting together for at all this time, and he gets

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Speaker 1: out to go to take a leak and he by

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01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: when he comes back to the fox halls, it's been

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Speaker 1: shelled and all his comrades are dead. So but there's like,

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Speaker 1: that's just one and a million of the traumatic things

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Speaker 1: that happened to these guys, and they never had to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. They came home, and they weren't supposed

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Speaker 1: to say, you know, that war was kind of a

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Speaker 1: ship show, right, They're supposed to come home and go,

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Speaker 1: this is the greatest moment for America and wait one

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Speaker 1: and as my mother said, do nothing to tarnish the

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01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: shine of that accomplishment, right, so um, you know, so

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Speaker 1: then they all kept it. He never talked about it

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Speaker 1: until he was in his eighties, and then he got

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01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: together with a group of veterans and they talked about

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Speaker 1: it for like hours being and he finally had this

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Speaker 1: kind of cathartic yeah thing towards the end of his life.

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Speaker 1: But so there were so many things like that going

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Speaker 1: on on the of course of McCarthy or you know,

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Speaker 1: there's lots of stuff America. America was pretending to be

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Speaker 1: so cool and it was in many ways, of course,

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01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: but also in some ways not. And it was of

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01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: course pre civil rights, and there's a lot of stuff awesome.

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Speaker 1: So where can people find the podcast? Everywhere? Everywhere? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: grab that pod at I mean obviously Apple. And it's

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Speaker 1: just called Wineta. It's called Winnetta. Well there's and it

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Speaker 1: says colon a memoir perfect but but just you could

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Speaker 1: just type in pops, right w I N N E

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Speaker 1: T K A yes, yes. And I was telling you

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Speaker 1: as someone who grew up in the valley, there's a

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Speaker 1: part of the valley called Lonecca, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe justice from the battle, like Illinois. Uh. And are

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Speaker 1: you on any social media? Oh? God, yes, there. Instagram

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Speaker 1: is my favorite. There's lots of pictures from the show.

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Speaker 1: So there's two two on Instagram. One is Wineta podcast

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: and one is at Jessica Harper Rama Harperama. All right,

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Speaker 1: well that's a follow for me. Jamie. Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you and follow you? And also, Jamie, thank you

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: so much for holding it down this past week of

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Speaker 1: shows with Jack being off in the wilderness on his sojourn. Yes,

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: it's all good, people. I know I missed Jack as well.

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Speaker 1: I know that people are starting to have dreams about

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01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Jack him having sexually charged dreams about him. That's not

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Speaker 1: my business, I am. It's been an honor to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's always a blessing. Uh and

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Speaker 1: if and please also for the listeners, Jamie, Jack, Caitlin

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01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: and I will be doing a live show together. Uh.

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: Beck Deel cast with The Daily Zeitgeist talking about your

1135
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: seminal film at the Dynasty Typewriter. So please buy your

1136
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: tickets because they are about to go out very very soon.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited. Uh. And Jamie, where can people find

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Speaker 1: you and follow you? I find on Twitter at Jamie

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01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: Loftus help. You can find me on Instagram at Jamie

1140
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: christ Superstar And uh, listen to the Bechdel Cast. We

1141
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: just released our new episode about romy and Michell's high

1142
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: school re union. Um so yeah. And then come to

1143
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Speaker 1: the live show and that's all. And what is a

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01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: tweet that you're liking? Oh this is from a couple

1145
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: of days ago, but it was a really funny tweet

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01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: from Matt Oswald on Kirk Cobain's birthday. That's Patton Oswald's brother, right, yes,

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01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: it is where he is. Happy birthday, Kirk Cobain, Your

1148
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: words and image will never be forgotten. And then attached

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Speaker 1: is a mural of David Spade with a with a

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Speaker 1: Kirk Coban. But it's better to burn out than fade away. Someone.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who made this David Spade uh mural,

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01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: but you know it turns out he's mural worthy and

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Speaker 1: it made me laugh a lot. He's at Matt Oswald

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Speaker 1: v A. He has a five million followers. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: need my endorsement, but it was really funny. I would Um, oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll talk about me. Oh yeah. Instagram at

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Miles of Grade G r A y A couple of tweets.

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Speaker 1: I like one is from at Niles one hundred. It

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: says l M F A ho. Jesse Smollitt still casted

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: more black actors than Judd Apataw crushing, crushing, listen. I

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Speaker 1: love when people get hard on the judge. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to do it? Yeah, I just it was.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those as I read, yeah for real?

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Speaker 1: Uh And also, oh, sorry, sorry, Jessica, do you have

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Speaker 1: a tweets? I have a tweet? Oh sorry, yes, I

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Speaker 1: totally forgot. Now this is a tweet from George Wallace,

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Speaker 1: and I do not mean the dead governor Alabama, other

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Speaker 1: guy George Wallace. So he said, shout out to top

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Speaker 1: five hams in the world. Those are he didn't say,

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Speaker 1: those are crying dust, Peter Life's and Jeff Jeff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. As a black and Nese person,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, George Twitter is priceless. I know,

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Speaker 1: I just imagine in him just I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's doing it so easily or he's like kind of

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Speaker 1: really working hard to doing it. I know it's coming easily,

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01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know. There's part of me that I'm

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Speaker 1: so interested in his Twitter process, like some of the

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Speaker 1: few users that you can hear all of his tweets

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Speaker 1: in his voice right, And you know, but when you're

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Speaker 1: a great joke writer, it probably is very easy. Um.

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Speaker 1: Let's see another tweet that I like is from Hot

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Sea Girl Sarah uh for explaining is chronically Sarah. It

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Speaker 1: says my body is a temple, ancient and crumbling and

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 1: probably haunted. You can find us at daily zeit Geist

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01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter, where at the daily ze guys on Instagram.

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page. We have a website

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Speaker 1: daily zeit geis dot com. We're posts our shows, our episodes,

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Speaker 1: and our footnote for that backup as well as the

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Speaker 1: song that we are going to ride out on. Let's

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Speaker 1: do a song by video age. It's called pop Therapy

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: now video Age. I was really into it because it's

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: just sounded like it was straight out of the eighties.

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm hoping there are a new band doing stuff from

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: the eighties and I'm not just finding in eighties band,

1195
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: but yes, this is just check out their other work.

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: It's very vibe if you like vapor wave like, it's

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: kind of i mean, not totally vapor wavish, but it's

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 1: on that wave like so yes, this is video age

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Speaker 1: with Top Therapy again. Thanks for joining us. Tomorrow Jack,

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: we'll be back. We'll get this thing back to normally,

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: put back in my locker, I get shoved in a

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: log back on your hard drive. You'll have to pack

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: your way out of all right. Well, we'll see you

1204
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: then because it is a daily show. Take care of

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Speaker 1: bite in a mirror and m dag who I thought