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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Joining us on the

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Speaker 1: program is Andrew Giuliani, former special assistant to former President

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and former candidate for governor of New York,

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about the current state

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Speaker 1: of play. Well, mister Giuliani, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Right off the ball, let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: vice presidential selection. What does jd Vance bring to the

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Speaker 1: ticket in your.

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Speaker 2: View, I think it's a look right at the rust Belt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the senator, the junior cenator from Ohio

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Speaker 2: carried Ohio was able to win that state. But as

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Speaker 2: we know, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, all three states to President

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Speaker 2: Trump won in twenty sixteen went Biden's way in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and there are three swing states that are going to

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Speaker 2: be very very important to determining who wins the presidency

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Speaker 2: on November fifth. You have to think that jd Vance

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Speaker 2: speaks directly to most of the residents of those three states,

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Speaker 2: including his home state of Ohio, which should be in

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Speaker 2: the red column. But as ben as swing state is

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Speaker 2: recently as twenty twelve, So when you look at the

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Speaker 2: math of the electoral map, I think that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: the Trump team was doing when they selected jd Vance.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good blue collar pick. What about his age?

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Speaker 1: Does jd Vance's age lift former President Trump's chances?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It may. I mean, look, there's been so much talk,

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Speaker 2: probably more about Biden, but also about President Trump as well,

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Speaker 2: with them being eighty one and seventy eight years old, respectfully,

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Speaker 2: I think you get some youth on this ticket and

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Speaker 2: it changes it a little bit in terms of what

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Speaker 2: does that conversation like now. I know you'll have other

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Speaker 2: people that'll say, well, look, this is somebody who's only

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Speaker 2: served a year and a half in the Senate here,

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Speaker 2: somebody who's young, maybe a little bit inexperienced in some

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Speaker 2: kind of way. But he's also somebody that is connected

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Speaker 2: with the American people, the American masses, through his book,

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Speaker 2: through his Senate run in a way that I think

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Speaker 2: most politicians have not on a national level. And having

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Speaker 2: talked to President Trump just as recently as yesterday, I

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Speaker 2: know that something that he was really really looking at

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Speaker 2: as he was trying to make his final selection here

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Speaker 2: for who was going to join him on the presidential ticket.

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Speaker 1: After the attempt at assassination of Donald Trump. But we've

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Speaker 1: seen calls from many quarters throughout the country towards seeking

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Speaker 1: more unity in the country, coming together as one America.

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Speaker 1: Do you see these two President Trump and former President

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Speaker 1: Trump and Jade Vance as calling for more unity here

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Speaker 1: or kind of going back to sort of tear the

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Speaker 1: house down type of ideology.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I want unity, but I also think answers

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Speaker 2: are very important, and I don't want unity to lead

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Speaker 2: to ignorance, if you will. In terms of the answers

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Speaker 2: that my Orcus was talking about, I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure that I know exactly what happened in the security collapses.

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Speaker 2: Have to have a shooter one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 2: meters away when the longest shots ever made have been

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Speaker 2: thirty times that length. That's thing that I sat through

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Speaker 2: hundreds of White House security briefings looking at high points

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Speaker 2: that were outside of security perimeters to make sure that

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Speaker 2: the President was safe, even if it was outside of

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Speaker 2: the Secret Service security perimeter. So I think we need

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Speaker 2: answers to exactly what ended up happening on that day.

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Speaker 2: And frankly, I also think this needs to go both ways.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden needs to have a better answer for why

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Speaker 2: he said just a few short days ago, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: needs to be in the bullseye. I don't think his

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Speaker 2: answer to Lester Holt today was adequate.

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Speaker 1: Even the way the former president was moved to the

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Speaker 1: van after the shooter was down. That presupposes there was

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Speaker 1: only one shooter. And you wonder, you know, we have

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Speaker 1: lots of columns getting written like the motive of the

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Speaker 1: shooter is irrelevant, Francis Wilkinson, for instance, writes in our

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Speaker 1: own pages here at Bloomberg. But it does sort of

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Speaker 1: raise the question as to who else might have been involved.

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Speaker 1: Do we have any sense of that? And do you

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Speaker 1: fear that.

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Speaker 2: Right now? We don't, And I think that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: I think we need answers as soon as possible on this.

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Speaker 2: We can't allow theories to win the day, right. You

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Speaker 2: want facts to be able to look at this stuff,

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Speaker 2: because frankly, this is going to be President Trump is

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Speaker 2: going to be going out and doing rallies, maybe as

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Speaker 2: soon as this weekend. And you think about same thing

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Speaker 2: for Biden as well, and RFK Junior. These candidates, they

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Speaker 2: deserve to be protective. If we believe in the First

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Speaker 2: Amendment in this country, then the public square needs to

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Speaker 2: be safe. Whether it's red, whether it's blue, whatever it

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Speaker 2: is there. So well, let's hope right now, it's just theories.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope this was one often that they will be safe.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about whether or not, you know, you think

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Speaker 1: that it will be different this time in terms of

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Speaker 1: former President Trump's aides, because one of the things that

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Speaker 1: we noticed obviously in the prior administration was that so

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Speaker 1: many of his aides eventually left either of their own

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Speaker 1: volition or they were booted out by a foreign president Trump.

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Speaker 1: Will jd. Evance be any different?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, I think this is a

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Speaker 2: guy who, obviously, as of eight years ago, he was

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Speaker 2: not the biggest fan of Trump, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: guys have run through some of the stuff that he

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Speaker 2: has said. But he's a guy who was really won over,

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Speaker 2: i think, to the Trump world by the policies, by

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Speaker 2: the policy successes. Maybe he didn't fall in love necessarily

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Speaker 2: with the Twitter feed and the current ex feed and

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Speaker 2: truth feed at the time, but was won over by

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Speaker 2: the policies. I think that shows me somebody who was

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Speaker 2: able to keep an open mind, even though he came

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Speaker 2: in as a so called never Trumper and realized that

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Speaker 2: this president, while he may have a unique style, he's

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Speaker 2: able to accomplish things that maybe a typical politician is

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Speaker 2: not able to accomplish. And I think you could just

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Speaker 2: look at the successes of the forty fifth president and

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Speaker 2: compare it to the forty sixth president. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: foreign policy. You talk about the two foreign wars that

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Speaker 2: have started under Joe Biden. With Trump, you saw peace

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Speaker 2: through strength. Talk about the economy as well, you cover

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Speaker 2: that very very well every single day. I think the

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Speaker 2: success of the Trump administration from a deregulatory standpoint was

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Speaker 2: extremely successful. And you look at the Biden administration, We've

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Speaker 2: seen inflation continue to creep up. I know those numbers

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Speaker 2: are down a little now, but they're still up much

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Speaker 2: higher than it was in twenty nineteen. And I think vance,

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Speaker 2: I think probably that won vance over.

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Speaker 1: If you will, could you see yourself playing a role

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Speaker 1: in an administration under President Trump if he were to win,

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Speaker 1: and if so, what might be Well.

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Speaker 2: Look, I had that conversation with President Trump last week,

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Speaker 2: and I told him, I'm always willing to serve, whether

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Speaker 2: it's inside the administration, whether it's outside the administration. You know.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you when I heard that he was

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Speaker 2: shot on Saturday. This is a guy that I've known

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Speaker 2: for nearly thirty years, had the honor of working four

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Speaker 2: years from in the White House, and I felt like

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Speaker 2: it was a family member in those moments where I

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Speaker 2: didn't know if he was going to live or going

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Speaker 2: to die. And I told him, look, also, whether it's

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Speaker 2: on the inside, whether it's on the outside, most importantly,

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Speaker 2: we need to save our country. And I also told them,

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Speaker 2: I said, let's make sure we have that conversation on

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Speaker 2: November six. That's the conversation I want to be at all.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, we'll have to leave it there, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 1: a good conversation, mister Giuliani, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Andrew Giuliani there former special assistant to former

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump and a former candidate for the governorship

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Speaker 1: of New York