1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is you're gonna look at 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: these magazines, et cetera, and if you become aroused, etcetera, 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: there will know etcetera, that, etcetera, you're guilty, etcetera. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Gamsite media large flash. 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Rory. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Let's say you're a fugitive from the law. Okay, and 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm not, just to be clear for our audience, I'm not. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: This is all just hypothetical. Wink wink, Rory. You're you're 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: a fugitive wanted by the. 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: Law, and I look like Harrison Ford. How are you 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: getting away with it? How are you evading capture? What's 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: your plan? I'm literally doing everything Harrison Ford did. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: But you know the first thing I'm doing is shaving, 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: getting a haircut, the obvious stuff, new clothes. I don't 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: know the circumstances of my escape, but I'm definitely changing 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: my exterior identity. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: But just hair cutting beard, that's it. 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't what, I don't know. What else 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: can you do? Could I just go get like an earring? 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: Do you think that has enough of an effect? Like 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: a really big dangly like a cross. I'd probably go 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: get a face tattoo, Okay, there, all right, good good, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: I like this plant. Okay. But even despite that amazing 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: plan that you just came up with, your thinking too small. 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, because my master plan to turn you 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: into a genius level criminal is clearly not working yet 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: work in progress. 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: There, I'm inching. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: The answer I was looking for was that you would 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: create a new nation with no extradition treaty back to 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: your home country. 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: That seems like a lot of work. Wow. 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: This week on crime List, we venture forth in search 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: of nations that do not exist, that have been created 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: in order to allow people to get away with crimes. 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: It's nice Welcome back to crime Lists, the podcast that 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: celebrates the amazing creativity of the. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: World dumbest criminals. I'm Josh Dean. 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: And I am Rory Scoppel. 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I see our work here on crime Lists as a 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: kind of master study of high functioning ding dongs. I 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: think over time we will come to understand our dimmest 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: bulbs a little better by starting to see patterns in 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: their work. 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: Yep. 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: So we're in the process of becoming idiot profilers. Rory right, 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and what two better men to do it? But I 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: think we can agree that the criminals start to fall 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: into like specific buckets. I think we're starting to have 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: a few types this week, which relates to another one 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: we've done recently. I would put in the category of 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: gullible government officials. 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: So to kick off this week, we found an incredible 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: low quality video of this unprecedented moment in the history 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: of Newark, New Jersey. 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: And what is this? 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna explain to you basically what you're seeing there? 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Would you say it was like a gathering of officials 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: in a room where some kind of ceremony was happening, right, yes, Okay, 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: So what's happening there? This is January twenty twenty three, 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: January being the month when Newark is absolutely splendid. 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, got to get there. In January. Yeah, about a. 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: Dozen people have filed into city Hall for a ceremony 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: to celebrate Newark's newest sister city. And as I'm sure 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, sister cities, sometimes known as twin cities, are 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: a partnership between two locations, countries, or continents, not always 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a city. So it's mostly a ceremonial thing, obviously, but 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: these kinds of relationships can encourage trade and tourism between cities, 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and on this day in January twenty twenty three, Newark 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Mayor ros Baraka Rulkan representatives from the United States of 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Kailasa or a Usk, a Hindu nation off the coast 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: of Ecuador. To begin and perhaps break the awkward silence 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: in the room, someone puts on a slideshow about Coylos's 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: history and culture. I think that's what we were watching, 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: yep at the top, because they zoomed on a screen 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: and there was some Hindu imagery. There was some music 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: and uplifting Royalty free track plays underneath. 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: A great description Royalty free track. 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: The representatives from Newark, including the mayor, appear to be 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: scrolling on their phones while it runs, so they're not 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: super engaged. Not probably not the most important meaning of 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: the day that the mail. There's only a dozen people there, 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: so clearly it's not the hottest ticket in town. So 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: some council people from New York share a few words 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: on the importance of the partnership and what it means 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: to stand united as sister cities, and the mayor says quote, 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I pray that our relationship helps us to understand cultural, social, 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: and political development and improves the lives of everybody in 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: both places. Then a representative from the United States of 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Coylosa speaks, man, this is going to be a real 92 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: test of my pronunciation. So apologies to these people. Very so. 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: The representative from Kaylossa, her name is VJ. 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 3: Priya. Yeah, Nuya, Nanda, Nanda. I think I did pretty 95 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: well there. I think that was Yeah. I think that's 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: probably right. 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Lane helped I got some pronunciation cues. She's dressed in 98 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: an orange and yellow sorry, and she has a large 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: tattoo of the founder of USK on her bicep. Huh 100 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: should we get matching tattoos? I have wanted to do 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: I've pitched it several times. Don't on air suddenly want 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: to do it? 103 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Okay? 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean I've got Eric Adams on my right bicep. 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: So Mayor of my city, get you on the left. 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Good anyway. 107 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Mayor Baraka, the fortieth mayor in Newark history and son 108 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: of the legendary poet an activist Amri Baraka, So you know, 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: royalty in the African American community, signs the official Sister 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: City Agreement that hands are shaken, and representatives from Kaylossa 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: posed for photos with their new friends, siblings. I guess 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: you could say from New Jersey, yep, and the United 113 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: States of Kylosa and Newark, New Jersey are a fish 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: sister cities for six. 115 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Days, honestly, so much longer than I expected. 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Until some crackerjack employee at the mayor's office, I guess, 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: open Google, guess. 118 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: What he learned when he typed in, is this a 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: real place? It's not a real place. When did you 120 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: realize that, Rory? 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: I think when it was called the United States? I go, 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: you just don't get that. A lot of other places, 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: especially on an island off the coast of Ecuador. How 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: many states can there be on an island? 125 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: How many? 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: How small are they? Everyone's house is a state apparently. Yeah, Okay, 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: so it's not a real country. It's not recognized by 128 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: the UN or anyone in the international community. There is 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: no island off the coast of Ecuador, or actually, there 130 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: are a bunch of islands off the coast of Ecklor 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the Galapagos, for instance, or Kylosa is not one of them. 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: And because there are no there's no country of Kylossa. 134 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: There's no cities in Kylasa, which is one of the 135 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: many details of the city of Newark somehow missed in 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: its due diligence. Yeah, I think it's important to point 137 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: out that Newark is like not a backwater. It's a 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: pretty big city, like probably the largest city in New Jersey. 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that as a fact lay in fact check. 140 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the largest city. 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: So the largest city in New Jersey agreed to a 142 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: sister city areement with the place it didn't exist. 143 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: No one checked. 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, anyway, the mayor cancels the agreement on January eighteenth, 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: City Hall assures the people of Newark this will never 146 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: happen again, not on his watch. And after this sister 147 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: city scam at the news, a lot of people had 148 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: very good questions to ask, like who catfish is a city? Yeah, 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and then this one, which very relevant for our conversation. 150 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: Is this even a crime? Is catfishing a city a crime? 151 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: I want to say it's not. 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: It is, I'm sure, but I want to say it's 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: not because like to get away with it, then you 154 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: know it good for you. 155 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: It Honestly, it feels. 156 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: More like a high level prank than a crime, Like 157 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: high level prank is just below low level crime. 158 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's some gray area at the border there. 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yes, But actually I think technically, since no 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: money or goods were exchange, nothing actually illegal took place. 161 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: But we are tiptoeing into fraud territory, right yeah, yeah, 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: especially when I tell you about the guy behind this 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: fake country. 164 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: If that was the guy in the video, then I 165 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: am all there. 166 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: So his name is Swami Nithiananda. His official title is 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Pontiff of Hinduism, which I'm going to assume is 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: not a real title, right, and Kaylosa is his brain child. Yes, So, 169 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Nithiananda was born in nineteen seventy eight in India. His 170 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: birth name is Arunachalam rajase J Kary. The good Swami 171 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: claims he was gifted spiritually at a very early age 172 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: and first noticed by a guru when he was three. 173 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: And it's worth noting I think that our key source 174 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: here is the swami yep. So he claims he was 175 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: noticed by a guru at three. We can all claim 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: guru attention at a young age. Who's going to look 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: into that. The Fananda claims he experienced full enlightenment at 178 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: twenty two, and he sends a mass to following Oh 179 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: my god of over a million people, which also is 180 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: not a figure anyone has audited. So I think he 181 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: claims a million followers. Yeah, yeah, what's his social media 182 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: look like? That's the only way to truly know it's 183 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: all bots. He also considers himself a god man who 184 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: possesses some supernatural abilities that I'm going to walk you 185 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: through now. He can heal the blind and make Jesus 186 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I love this one. He can heal the blind and 187 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: make adults grow up to three inches taller. Okay, very specific, 188 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: very weird superpower. 189 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: I love that. 190 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: He's like, look, I can't do four. I can't do four. 191 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Read the small print. I can't do four. He also 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: has X ray vision, okay, he can delay the sunrise 193 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: for up to forty minutes. What what weird Marvel adjacent 194 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: comic book did this dude grow up with? He can 195 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: make cattle speak and tamil and sanskript, and he claims 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: he can disprove Einstein's E equals mc squares. 197 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. 198 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: He's like, let me on, here's all these little things 199 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: I can do, but then let me go for the jugular. 200 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: It's an amazing collection of superpowers. 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: It's so weird, Like, why even bring up the sun 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: rise thing? If you can if you have X ray vision, 203 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: why even bring that up? Also, why forty minutes, thirty 204 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: minutes an hour just bring up X ray vision and 205 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: no one has any other questions about anything else. So 206 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: during one conversation in front of an audience, it looks 207 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: like some kind of live podcast. He endorsed the idea 208 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: of the world's first inter life reincarnation trust management. 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: And here's how that works. 210 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Rich people like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett could invest 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: a few billion dollars in the trust and he would 212 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: make sure that money is earmarked for their reincarnation. 213 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm in. 214 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: I have a video, so this would be the words 215 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: first inter life reincarnation trust management. 216 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I think if. 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: We do a little more research and established. 218 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: We can do that. I look, I'm sold. 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a scam because why would that 220 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: many people have clapped? Why would that why would that 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: amount have clapped if it was wrong? 222 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: It's it's a fair point. I was gonna say. 223 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: I it wasn't like the most rousing I mean, there 224 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: was a lot of clapping, it wasn't like a roar. 225 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: So you said that was a podcast there. Look, I 226 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: know everyone can't see it, but their setup is way 227 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: better than ours. I believe one of those two guys 228 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: were on thrones. 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: They were on thrones. We're just we're just starting up, Rory. 230 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: We'll get there. We'll get there. We haven't we haven't 231 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: started our own bank yet. 232 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: So as soon as we start our own trust, in 233 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: our own bank, then we're gonna be You're gonna see 234 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot. 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: Of gold on this show, folks. 236 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: They did have amazing bling and they were sitting on 237 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: gold thrones. So yes, I agree, for the record, we 238 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: are not sitting on gold thrunk. So you ready to join? 239 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: You ready to sign up and be a follower? I mean, 240 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I just I I in all seriousness, I don't know 241 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: how people fall for this. I don't know how because 242 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: it isn't that difficult to spot such an obvious scam. 243 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: But yet, even proving that he has a million followers 244 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: or doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised if he does. 245 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: He has extra invention. How could I not follow? 246 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: I exact, He's honestly, I gotta follow him. He can 247 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: see right through me. Literally, he literally how did I 248 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: get taller? How come I condunk? Now if he's a 249 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: if he's a scam artist. Meanwhile, they're like, prove that 250 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: you can delay the sunrise. He's like, all right, what 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: month are we in. We're in October. Okay, I'll do 252 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: it on November twenty Yeah, why always that day? 253 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: The sun will rise forty minutes later on that day. 254 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 255 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: So I guess it's not a crime to consider yourself 256 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: a god man. But gaining a following, the fame, the fortune, 257 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: the power, you can imagine, a lot of that stuff 258 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: starts to bend your moral compass just a little bit. Sure, 259 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: And in twenty ten, a sex tape was leaked to 260 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the curveball no one expected, featuring the Guru and a 261 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: pretty famous actress from India. Oh my gosh, I will say, 262 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: I am happy to know that considering yourself a god 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: man is not a crime, because I would be in 264 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: prison for life. So the Guru denies any sex was happening, 265 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: arguing that in the video he was practicing the yoga 266 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: post in which you lie face up on the floor. Yeah, 267 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: and because he's impotent, so it'd be impossible from sex. 268 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: Oh well, you know what, I've always appreciated his vulnerability. 269 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: It's true, his very public vulnerability. I love he was 270 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: just lying in a yoga posse on the floor. I'm 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: assuming she was on top of him. So it's like, 272 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what she was doing. I was just 273 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: doing yoga. Look, I'm impotent. Everyone's like, and that's not 274 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: one of the superpowers. You can't you can't change that. No, nope. 275 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: He also claims the video is doctored footage, which feels 276 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: like a weird denial because I you know, a dude 277 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: who claims to have X ray vision and the ability 278 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: to delay the sunrise, but he's embarrassed to have slept 279 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: with some hot actress. Yeah, like, why what's the denial there? Alas, 280 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: that same year, a female disciple accused. 281 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: Him of rape. Okay, so oh there we go. 282 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: So he's briefly arrested before making bail. 283 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: How come all the cult leaders have the exact same bio. 284 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: It's really true, it's so true. What would he have said? 285 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Why he couldn't possibly have raped her? Is it the impotent? Yeah? 286 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is impotent. That's what he said. Yep, that's right, man. 287 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: This is maybe he's really thought this through. So in 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, the Supreme Court in India ordered a medical 289 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: test to be conducted, a potency test to prove whether. 290 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: He was telling the truth or not. I was going 291 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: to say, how do you prove this? 292 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: I also what an awkward test for a government court 293 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to perform? 294 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: Like what they do? Just show him some dirty magazines. 295 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: They're like, is that doing anything? Is that helping? He's 296 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: like nope. 297 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: He's like so focused, Nope, so our guya. I mean, 298 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Nathianda is a slippery god man. And he managed to 299 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: put off the medical test until twenty fourteen, when the 300 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: results came back that he was indeed capable of rising 301 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: to the occasion, which is interesting. Yes, so then he 302 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: changed his story. What do you think he said? 303 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: Then? It wasn't ray He said he has such a 304 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: magical power. He changed it. No, he said it wasn't rape. 305 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: It was consensual. 306 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if you imagine backpedaling out of that one 307 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: very specific detail. 308 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no day impotent. Oh no no 309 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: no no no no no no no no no no, 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: it was consensual. You must have heard impotent. Anyway. 311 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, he's charged with sexual assault, rape, cheating 312 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: in criminal abatement disappearance of evidence, giving false information, and 313 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy. This time the court issues a non bailable 314 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: warrant for the rest, but before they can cuff him, 315 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the Guru fled. 316 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not it. 317 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: A separate police complaint was filed in twenty nineteen accusing 318 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: him of kidnapping and oh god, confining children his astrom. 319 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: So this guy tried to this guy, being the worst person, 320 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: tried to get to the USK as fast as he 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: possibly could. 322 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, okay, out of lies. 323 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm like not even I'm an unrepentant scumbag now, like, yeah, 324 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: kidnapping kids, braving people, and yet still has a million 325 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: followers somehow. 326 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: And they're like, look, it's the sunrise thing. I can't 327 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: look past that. 328 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: And of course he also racked up a few fraud 329 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: charges along the way. In France, a former devotee claimed 330 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: he was deceived by the Guru, who now owes him 331 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand US dollars one particular devotee and since 332 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when those charges were filed, he's now been 333 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: on the run from two jurisdictions, India and France. Yeah, 334 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: totally see how Newark misses all this. Yeah, And honestly, 335 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: that employee that found it, I guarantee you was just 336 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: an intern and just googled what's this you? 337 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: Where is that? They never heard? Where is that? They 338 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: googled it. 339 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: And then at first was just like, oh, it's made up. 340 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: This is funny, and then they're like, why was it 341 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: made up? Well, then they hold on, let me google 342 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: his name. They're like, whoa, you get to tell the 343 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: mayor not me. Yeah, So he flees his home country 344 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: and founds the United States of Kylosa, named after a 345 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: mountain in the Himalayas that it's considered home to the 346 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Hindu god Shiva. That's when he claims to have bought 347 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: that island off the coast of Ecuador. And since founding 348 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: this fake country on an island that does not exist 349 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: just over six years ago, the Guru has been doing 350 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: a lot of press for his newly found nation, which 351 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: brings us back to Newark, New Jersey, YEP. According to 352 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: some reports, thirty US cities have officially recognized Kaylossa as 353 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: a nation. Oh my god, you are in sisters city agreements, 354 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: official documents of recognition, or in some cases declaring an 355 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: official Kylosa There what If you go to Kylosa's website, 356 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: they have a whole tab of all the cities and 357 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: towns that have recognized them, including but not limited to Texas, Canada, Texas, 358 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: Buyna Park, California. Can'ton Ohio, Hollandale Beach, Florida, Asheville, North Carolina. 359 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: I assumed they'd mostly be in Florida. I'm very bummed 360 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: about Asheville. Asheville is a bummer because I didn't know 361 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these cities had only child syndrome, and. 362 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: We're just they'll do anything for his sister or our brother. 363 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: It's not just cities either. 364 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: Rory state governments can't resist handing out pointless awards either. 365 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: According to Kylos's website, admittedly not the most reliable source, 366 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: the governor of Ohio handed out a proclamation of recognition, 367 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: and Norma Torres, a congresswoman from California, also signed a 368 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: certificate of special Congressional Recognition. What the hell is happening 369 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: in America? This is all happening at a time when 370 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Google could not be more accessible. So a spokeswoman for 371 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: that congresswoman, by the way, in an interview with The 372 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: New York Post, said the certificate was given to a 373 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: local congregation by a former staffer. Upon learning of the 374 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: very serious, incredible allegations against their leader, our office promptly 375 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: recalled certificates. 376 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, throw the staff round of the bus. I mean, 377 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: I guess it's just a certificate, right, I guess. But still. 378 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: Another spokesperson told the Post that they only found out 379 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: about Nisi Nanda's concerning past quote after what happened in Newark. 380 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. So what's the point of this? 381 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: Do you think what is the Guru crew trying to 382 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: do here by going out because it feels like, on 383 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: the one level, like maybe it's a bad idea to 384 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: be bringing attention to himself. Well, mine was the extradition 385 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: that he if he's there, he can't be charged or arrested. 386 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: But there is no there I know, but he but no, 387 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: but you know, we're not going to look into that. 388 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: Oh he's outside the bounds. We can't get him interpoled, 389 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: they get him. He's in the invisible base. Is that 390 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: what he was oping for? Was that his goal? 391 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we can't know exactly because he's on the run, 392 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: but it's probably an attempt to legitimize Kylossa so that 393 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: he has a country that allows his out outlanders lives 394 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: in brazen law breaking, you know, fake it till you 395 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: make in maybe some time, like maybe there is some 396 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: place where he can like get a country to give him, 397 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know, a few acres and yeah, through 398 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: some weird loophole and international law, he can declare himself 399 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: a sovereign nation. 400 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 401 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: The other the other theory is that it's a recruitment tactic, 402 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and according to a cult deprogrammer who spoke to The 403 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: York Post, they suspect that the Swami was also looking 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: to raise his profile in the US and that this 405 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: may have been part of that. So. An investigation by 406 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: India Today found that the Guru has been establishing charities 407 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: and corporations all over the world to run his operations. 408 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: There are at least ten registered Kilosa organizations in the 409 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: US alone. 410 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: Oh my god, but we're not the only suckers out there. Rory, 411 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: thank god, That's what I was gonna ask. 412 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau 413 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: signed a letter of support for Kilosa's Hindu Heritage Month 414 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: Yes and Paraguay's chief of staff for the Agricultural Ministry 415 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: was quickly replaced after he admitted signing an official proclamation 416 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: recognizing USK and twenty twenty three good. I liked that 417 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: there was some punishment there. Dude, you're out. 418 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: You can't even google. So do you think this is 419 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: the end of our story? I just that question alone 420 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: makes me say, no. Where do you think the USKEG 421 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: is going next? I'm gonna tell you after the break. 422 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: This is Kurrs. 423 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: I love this story so much. 424 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love the things that he did. 425 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Let's putting aside that he is a fucking terrible human being, 426 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: horrible monster. But the rest of the stuff is it's 427 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: most charming as the like the Parks and Reck was 428 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: a documentary basically right like government official r. 429 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: That's actually a great description. 430 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: It's literally as though they work in all of these 431 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: offices to sign off on this stupid shit. 432 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: Everybody is the parks basically the parking record, Yes, exactly. Okay. 433 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: So in February twenty twenty three, one month after marrying 434 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: then divorcing New York, New Jersey, representatives from the United 435 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: States of Kylossa pack their bags for Geneva, Switzerland. Here 436 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: we go, they're going to visit an office of the 437 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: United Nations. This is like when people say, like, if 438 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: you act like you're supposed to be there, you can 439 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of walk into any concert. 440 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: And you and I, we don't have the confidence to 441 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: do that. We did not this guy. This guy could 442 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: see any band he wants on any day. 443 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: But except of course, the god Man can't go himself. 444 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: So he's got to send envoys on account of the 445 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: whole rape and abduction charges, and we don't totally know 446 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: where god Man is hanging out, so he's sending his 447 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: people to the UN. He sent his main lady of Egypria, 448 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the same woman we saw in Newark, so she's like 449 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: the envoy and a few other followers, and they brought 450 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: a cardboard cutout of the Swami. 451 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah to the meetings. Yep, that's I mean, that's not 452 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: a bad move. That's good for photos. 453 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: It's more parks and rec every day, Like like, I 454 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: love the scene of them in a table, even a 455 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: writer's room for parks and rec is like, nah, we 456 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: want to keep it a little grounded. So it's like 457 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: you and people colossa people cardboard cutout, Yeah, which, by 458 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: the way, doesn't fit in a bag. 459 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: How do you get that on a plane? I was 460 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 3: about to say, is do you have to buy a seat? 461 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: So VJ. 462 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: Pria speaks at two UN committee meetings, one on how 463 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: women are represented in decision making systems, like so this 464 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: is like some legit stuff, and another unsustainable development. So 465 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: they're really in on like we're gonna we're a nation 466 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: of like and these are important subjects that we take 467 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: seriously in Kuylossa. According to UN spokesperson, her contributions made 468 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: at the meetings weren't relevant and would be scrapped from consideration, 469 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: which makes you wonder why they agreed to the meetings 470 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: in the first place. 471 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: Exactly, I knew this would be a waste of time. 472 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: That's why I agreed to do it. 473 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean I think we can make a 474 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: case that most meetings are pointless at all times. Yeah, 475 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: but this one, this is what in particular, Maybe I 476 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: should have known when they showed up with the cardboard cutout, yeah. 477 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: That these were goofy clowns coming down, But it actually. 478 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Appears they were there really for another reason. Photo ops. Yes, 479 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: the Kylossa representative is posed with ambassadors and staff from Egypt, 480 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates, Bangladesh, Lebanon, Lithuania, and more. It's unclear 481 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: if the staffers knew exactly who they were talking to, 482 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: and a few of them didn't even seem to realize 483 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: they were in pictures, or that these photos would soon 484 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: appear on a fake country's website as evidence that it 485 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: wasn't bullshit. Not a bad move. That's pretty smart move 486 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: on their part. It is you're like, I mean, how 487 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: can we be fake? Here's me and the ambassador of Lithuania. 488 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah. 489 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: A spokeswoman spokesperson for Lithuania's mission to the UN confirmed 490 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: that someone from the Baltic Republic did quote listen to 491 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: their concerns, but since the meeting did not take place 492 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: with the official representative of Lithuania, it does not represent 493 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: any national position on Kylosa love the like hair splitting 494 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: and like excuse making that happens afterwards. 495 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: I know that's a good back pedal. 496 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: You know, they could have saved money and just printed 497 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: cardboard cutouts of the other people and never flown anywhere. 498 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: One of my takeaways is that diplomacy is fucking weird, 499 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Like how much like what is happening on a daily 500 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: basis at the Geneva office at the UN just. 501 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: Like the endless time for this. 502 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is really very fun to talk 503 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: about some jokesters tricking government officials into legitimizing their fake island. 504 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: But I think we need to remember that underneath it all, 505 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: this is a religious cult. And recently Kylossa tried to 506 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: make some big and to me scary moves. In fact, 507 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty five, Bolivia officials arrested twenty people 508 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: from Kylosa. I love that we're still saying from Kylossa. 509 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: Even we are getting roped to do just completely giving 510 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: it some sort of justification for a real place. 511 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: So these people a arrested and accused of land trafficking. 512 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: They were attempting to negotiate one thousand year leases with 513 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: indigenous groups in the Amazon YEP. The nerve of these 514 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: motherfuckers one thousand year leases with people who like legitimately, 515 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know if, like if the point of these 516 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: indigenous groups is probably not to be connected to the 517 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: modern world. So like talk about people that you could 518 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: take advantage of, like, yeah, we're from Kylossa. So the 519 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: Kylossans were deported from Bolivia, but not back to Kylossa, 520 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: because I should remind. 521 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: You that place does not fucking exist. Yeah, they were 522 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: on the plane. I don't even know where to go. 523 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: What's the airport code? 524 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Again? 525 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: Kai, They're sent back to their actual home countries of India, 526 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: the United States, Sweden, and China. And where is our 527 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: guru Nitiananda? He's still on the run. Perhaps it's coming 528 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: to take over and rebrand a remote island near you. 529 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 530 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: And as for Mayor ros Baraka's Newark, after the whole 531 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Sister City scam, his staff did a sort of internal audit, 532 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: and they learned that they shouldn't really be throwing stones 533 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: because Newark hadn't paid its dues to Sister Cities International, 534 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: the group that oversees the whole universe for fourteen years. 535 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Oh now, I'm thrilled to report that Newark is out 536 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: of arrears and back in the good graces of Sister 537 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: Cities International. And not only that, they've joined hands with 538 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: two new sister cities, Oh Morant Beijamaica and chun Chi, Ecuador. Okay, 539 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: which I'm going to assume they googled before, And I'm 540 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: going to assume those are real, just because they involve 541 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: real words that describe real places. And that is the 542 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: story of kaylossa man a lot to take away there. 543 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Coming up with a country and establishing it not as 544 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: hard as you would think. I think for a future 545 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: episode we should see we can get a meeting at 546 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: the UN office in Geneva though. Yes, let's send an email. 547 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our final segment. 548 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: Lane Game. 549 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: This week it's a crimeless man hunt. We're going to 550 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: choose our teams and go in search of the Swami. Yes, 551 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: whoever finds first gets fifty dollars in TU points and 552 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: to be the official crime less ambassador to Kailasa. Ugh, 553 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I love a ware in the world. Is Carmen san 554 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: Diego style. I'm Klaine game kidding. There'll be no man 555 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: hunt this week. I think that's illegal. 556 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: Lane, What are we doing? So? 557 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: Today we learned about Nthianda, a self proclaimed god man, 558 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: a spiritual healer with a cult like following, And today 559 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about dog Man, the twenty 560 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: twenty five animated film from dream Works. 561 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, just like a slight mix up of the letters. 562 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you guys see this movie or hear about it. 563 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: I know of it. 564 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: One of my kids loves dog Man, which does not 565 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: mean that I've paid any attention to the books while 566 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: reading them at night, disassociating from the words. 567 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so you have an upper hand. 568 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: So not god Man, dog Man. 569 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: Dog Man the twenty twenty five animated film. Okay, yep, 570 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: so dog Man star is a hero. You guess it. 571 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: Who is half dog half man? How is dog Man born? 572 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: Oh God, I don't want to say beast reality. That's 573 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: why we're in seventeen. I don't know. I don't know that. 574 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: I don't know much about dog Man. 575 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: Either the dog or the person died. I think there 576 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: was a surgery involved. I feel like this is a 577 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Frankenstein situation. 578 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: Am I right? Yeah, you're right. 579 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: There's a surgery involved. The villainous orange cat pd UH 580 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: plants a bomb and then the fame cop officer Knight 581 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: and his dog Greg diffuse the bomb, but the wire 582 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: explodes and they both get very injured. So two females. 583 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why they specify female surgeons, it feels 584 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: a little yeah, but two surgeons save the officer and 585 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: the dog, but they stitch them together to create dog Man, 586 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: dog Man. 587 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, one for the right. This does sound 588 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: like children's cartoon. Okay, got yeah? Uh so. 589 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: The first act of the film parallels the plot of 590 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: this nineteen eighty seven be starring Peter Weller, in which 591 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: the title character must come to terms with his new 592 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: identity while morning his past. 593 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: You know, no, I don't, I do I know? I 594 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: got this one. It's RoboCop. 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: It is. 596 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: You guys didn't give me a chance. I didn't actually 597 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: get a chance. 598 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: Okay. Question three. Dog Man's arge nemesis is Pete, an 599 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: orange tabby self proclaimed the world's most evilst cat, who 600 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: voices Pete in the film. 601 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: Uh, I'm let's say Seth Rogan. I'm gonna go Tom 602 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: Selleck very timely guest. 603 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Very timely. H No, sorry, it was Pete Davidson. 604 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: Should have been Tom Sellick. 605 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: In the film, Pete steals the body of an evil 606 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: fish named Flippy voiced by Ricky Gervais. What special power 607 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: does Flippy possess? 608 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: He can make the sun come Okay, probably not that. 609 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: It's probably not that a super power. I'm gonna go. 610 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: He can fly. I was gonna say he can fly 611 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: teleport just so we have different answers. 612 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: Rory was closer. It's Telekinesis. 613 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh ah, how you get a half point? 614 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: Half point? 615 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: I get a half point for Tella. Yeah, had you 616 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: said telephone, we'd be tied. 617 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Dog Man is based on author Dave Pilke's children's graphic 618 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: novel of the same name. It is a spinoff and 619 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: a story within a story of his most famous series. 620 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: What is that series? 621 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: I know this one too. 622 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: This is not fair because I, unlike Rory, would be 623 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: kicking my ass in the bluey quiz. I have an 624 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: unfair advantage here because this is Captain Underpants. 625 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right. 626 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: I was going to say Captain Underpants, but I was like, 627 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm racking up too many points here. 628 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: I got a fullback. 629 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: This next one Rory might get because it's Marva film 630 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: industry question right now. Dog Man is ranked fifth in 631 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: the top grossing films domestically from twenty twenty five. I 632 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: name the top four from this year. 633 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we. 634 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: Should say this is being recorded in May, early May, 635 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: so this will be yeah, the first almost first half 636 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: of the year of. 637 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five. God, I don't follow anything. I don't know. 638 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm really depressing. 639 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: That was so sad. 640 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: That was very sad the way you said that, because 641 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I should know it. Something just I 642 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: don't go to the movies. Something just came out that is. 643 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: Like people are very excited about. It's true, people are 644 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: very excited about and I'm blanking. 645 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: Two things have recently come out that people are very 646 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: excited about. One of those things is for kids, which 647 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: is the number one answer A big kids movie. 648 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: Minecraft is number one. Minecraft. That's what I was thinking. 649 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: Jack Black, sin well, do I have to get him 650 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: in order? Sinners is definitely somewhere. 651 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: Theres Sinators is Minecraft is first, Sinators is number three. 652 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: There was a Captain America movie that's number two. Look 653 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: at that, Oh my. 654 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: God, Captain America Brave New World. And then number four 655 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: might be tough because I was surprised about this one. 656 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: My dinner with onre reducts. No, No, you're between Tom 657 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: Selleck and that you like. This guy is a Hollywood insider. 658 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I just love someone putting the money up. I think 659 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: it's time we bring back by these remakes. These remakes 660 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: are working. Can I even name one more movie that's 661 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: come out in twenty that I may have named. The 662 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: only movies that I can name from twenty two. 663 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: I can't at all. 664 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: I'll give you hint. It's a Disney movie that they 665 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: kind of they're they're going back to the well. 666 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh it was the one that flopped. Oh not Sleeping Beauty. 667 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 3: No, Moana too. 668 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: No, but that's a good answer. It's Moufassa at the 669 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: Lion Kings. Snow White was number six, Moana was number Moana. 670 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: The second was number eight. 671 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 672 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: The dog part of dog Man is what breed of dog? Oh? 673 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't know this. Just guess a breed right Cocker Spaniel. 674 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying, is it a beagle? 675 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: You guys are both wrongs. It's a Golden Retriever. 676 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Come that is the most If we were ranking the 677 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: most human like breeds, Golden Retriever would be number one. 678 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: But Golden Retriever should have been the I can't believe 679 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 3: I didn't guess that. 680 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: And that's that's doc Man, god. 681 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: Man, doc Man, god Man. We can tell you the scores, 682 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: but I'm you one. 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