1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodquitz, coming to you here 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field. After taking a week 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: off from the show Wes, but OTAs are still going 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: here for the Packers, and shortly after we are done 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: recording this episode, you and I will be heading out 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: to the practice field for the open ota of week 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: number three. But let's get caught up on our observations 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: from last week, since we did not do a show 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: to talk about those, and I think really the conversation 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: starts with one position in particular. You wrote a story 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: about one guy, I wrote a story about the other, 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the cornerback position. Jyr Alexander and 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes both soundlike young men with a new lease 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: on life in twenty twenty four with the Packers, four 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: different reasons. I'll let you start with Stokes because you 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: were in on the media huddle around him last week. 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: And a guy who has dealt with a lot injury 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: wise over the last year and a half and seems 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: to be getting to the point that he's putting that 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: stuff behind him. 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: And I made this comment to you a couple weeks 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: ago about how in twenty twelve, thirteen fourteen, I learned 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: more about cervical neckfusions than I'd ever known, just because 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: of the injury that the Packers kept getting in that area. 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: I've learned more about the hamstring muscle than I think 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: I ever wanted to know and will ever know. But 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: here's what was interesting about Stokes and I sat there 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: for fifteen minutes with Christian Watson. I sat there for 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes with Eric Stokes last week, and they're completely 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: different injuries, but they both ended up going to Badger 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Athletic Performance to try to get some answers on why 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: they had these recurring hamstring issues last season. For Watson, 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: it was an imbalance. They were looking for more symmetry 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: between his two legs and the strength in them, the muscles, 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: everything that attaches to that. As it turns out, with 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: Eric Stokes, everything for him started back in Detroit in 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, really where he suffers that devastating list 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Frank injury. Also, I believe had a meniscous injury to 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: his knee. Goes through an arduous rehab to get back 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: on the field. He's gonna get back out there for 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: training camp, and then he tweaks the hamstring. So when 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: it looked like things were starting to clear for him, 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: he ends up having this hamstring injury that will not 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: go away, and much like Watson, exervads it multiple times 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: during the season, and as they found out after the year, 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: it all started with that Liz Frank and the fact. 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: That Frank being a very very serious foot injury sort 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of deals with the arch of the foot and what. Yeah, 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: but it requires surgery to get it fixed, and it 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: is not an easy Recovery's not. 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: An easy recovery, especially because I think there's some tool 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: parts that have to go in there as well, and 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: trying to build up the strength not just in the foot, 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: but in all the muscles that support the foot. Right. 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: As it turns out, it was the same exact type 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: of origin story as what happened with Watson. When you 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: are lacking in one area, you're going to overcompensate in another, 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: and that's where you increase the. 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: Risk for injury. So here we are with Eric Stokes. Now. 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: Now, Matt Lafleur is always one to coach his statements. 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: He never wants to make two overwhelming comments on players, 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: especially this time of the year. But I still think 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: it was illuminating that he said this is the best 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: he's looks since he's seen Eric Stokes mentally on the field. 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: He just looks like he is kind of mentally clear 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: of everything he dealt with last year. He's feeling good again. 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: You have to get through training camp, you have to 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: get through the season. But I think at the very least, Mike, 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: what we've learned with both Watson and Stokes in the 73 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: last three four weeks is these are guys who. 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: Got their confidence back. 75 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: They have confidence back in their bodies, and they feel 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: like they can get back to playing the game they 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: way they did. 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Once again. 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: I did a Packers Daily a couple days ago with 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Adam Hobelheinrich that's also on Packers dot Com. Going back 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: and looking at some of those highlights of Stokes from 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one when he was almost he was this 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: close to being an All Rookie PFWA remember that year, 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: just narrowly missed out on it, and he just hasn't 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: been able to get those trains back quite on the tracks. 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: You hope that this is hopefully the start that he 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: needs to be able to do that. 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I think it's been very interesting with regard to Stokes 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: that again, it's OTA's you take everything with the proper 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: perspective for where things are this time of year. But 91 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: basically a guy who, other than a few cameo appearances 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: last year in between his hamstring injuries, really has missed 93 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the last season and a half of football. Yet here 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: we are in OTA's heading into twenty twenty four and 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: he's running with the first team defense, you know, And 96 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: that's taking nothing away from Carrington Valentine, what he did 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: as a seventh round rookie and everything last year. But 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Stokes is the guy with the ones right now. And 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: that took me back, As I mentioned in our Insider 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Inbox column, it took me back to the Combine when 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: we're at a you know, at one of the hotels 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: at the Combine, a bunch of the members of the media. 103 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: I know you weren't on that trip. I was. We're 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: sitting around at big conference table talking with Brian Gudokunst 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: kind of an annual thing that's done in Indianapolis, and 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: we didn't know anything about where Eric Stokes was at 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: in his recovery, how things are going. 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: You know. 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: All we knew was that was that he seemed to 110 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: be getting past the foot injury last year. But then 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: all the hamstring stuff started coming up. And I asked 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Gudakun sort of out of the blue, do you see 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes playing a big role in this defense in 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and with the changes that defensive coordinator 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: and everything that's going on, And it was like Guducun's 116 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: almost couldn't start answering the question soon enough as if unequivocally, 117 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: unequivocally to say yes that he believes Eric Stokes is 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: going to be a big part of this defense in 119 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And that reinforced for me at the time. 120 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: And then now what we're seeing in OTAs with him 121 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: running with the ones that the decision makers here really 122 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: believe in Eric Stokes and they are going to give him. Now, 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: nobody's going to hand him anything, but they are going 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: to give him every opportunity to regain the status that 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: he had as a first round draft pick a few 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: years ago and a guy who played a whole bunch 127 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: of snaps as a rookie and played pretty darn well 128 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: because he led the team in passes broken up if 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I recall correctly, in twenty twenty one. So it's going 130 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how this evolves because because 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Carrington Valentine certainly did some good things there. You know, 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: Corey Ballentine is a veteran that they brought back for 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: depth and all that. 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, there's a. 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Lot of curiosity around Kalen King and how you know, 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: why he fell the seventh round and what can he 137 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: do as a rookie in the NFL. But this is 138 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: a pretty big spotlight and a big time opportunity for 139 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes to really move forward in his career. And 140 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I will say because of the injuries, the Packers passed 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: on the fifth year option that goes with the first 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: round draft picks, so he is in the last year 143 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: of his contract. Now. This is a contract year for 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes as well. 145 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: And Stokes said he feels like he because of all 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: this leg work he's done. 147 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: He feels fat. 148 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: He's just as fast, if not faster, than he ever was. 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: Obviously a guy that was running in the four threes 150 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: at the time the Packers drafted him. Didn't get the combine, 151 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: so we didn't get that cement type of score like 152 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: you usually do in that area. But the other thing 153 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: I really like about Eric and I thought it was 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: a testament to the type of dude he is. You know, 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: he said, because he was asked the question of like, 156 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, they could have easily taken a cornerback in 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: the first round. They've done it before, They've taken defensive backs, gudakuns, 158 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: that's the position he's drafted more than any other in 159 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: the first round so far. They didn't do that, And 160 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: you know what did he make of that? And he's like, listen, 161 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I would have been totally fine had they done that, 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: because he looked at Kevin King and a guy that 163 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: he actually trained with this offseason down in Atlanta as 164 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Kevin's trying to get his career restarted after a couple 165 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: devastation injuries. Kevin King did never treated Eric like he 166 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: was going to be a threat, like he was somebody 167 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: that I have to knock this kid down. He's like 168 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 3: he helped him from the day he walked in the building. 169 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: And Eric said, had they drafted a guy in the 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: first round, I would have been the first one reaching 171 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: out my hand to try to help that guy. They 172 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: didn't do that. But he doesn't look at that any 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: different than working with a Kaylan King. Now, he doesn't 174 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: look at that any different is dealing with the Carrenton 175 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: Valentines of the world. So he wants to earn this job. 176 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: He wants to be that guy, and he wants to 177 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: show that he can get this thing back going the 178 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: way it was going in twenty twenty one. And I 179 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: think for the Green Bay Packers' perspective, when you listen 180 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: to the guys talk about him, whether it's Matt Lafleur, 181 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: the fellow defensive backs, everybody in that locker room is 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: cheering for Eric Stokes. Yeah. 183 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And he's an easy guy to cheer for too, 184 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: when you get to know him and you sense his 185 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: personality and and how he interacts and how he treats 186 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: other people. The other cornerback worth talking about here, of course, 187 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: is JayR Alexander. We heard from him as well after 188 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: last week's open Ota session, and again another guy who's 189 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: seems to sort of have a new lease on life, 190 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: but for different reasons. He you know, he had a 191 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: very forgettable twenty twenty three season. You know, make no 192 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: mistake about that. He you know, injuries off and on 193 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: to completely different parts of the body. One was once 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: it was the shoulder, there was the back injury, all 195 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff going on. Then there was the suspension 196 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: that was related to the coin toss captain stunt in 197 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Carolina and all that. Then he came back from that, 198 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: played pretty good football down the stretch as the Packers 199 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: tried to make the run, had the big interception in 200 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: the playoff game off of Dak Prescott down in Dallas. 201 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: But JayR Alexander is everything we had heard until we 202 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: actually heard from him, hearing from Matt Lafleur, from Brian Gudakum's, 203 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: from assistant coaches, everything was that that JayR Alexander is 204 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: being is being the guy, being the locker room guy, 205 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: being the player on the field off the field that 206 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the Packers want him to be. And then and he 207 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: confirmed that he sounds he sounds like a guy who 208 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: was so much more cited about where things are going 209 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: right now than maybe we've heard from him in a while. 210 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: And I know there is something about the new coordinator, 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: the whole change in defensive philosophy and everything that has 212 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that. I think. I think 213 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Alexander felt last year he lost, you know, one of 214 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: his allies when Jerry Gray left, you know, as far 215 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: as an ally on the coaching staff and whatnot. He's 216 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: trying to put all that behind him, and it's it's 217 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: moving forward now with Jeff Haffley and the staff that 218 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the that the Packers have here. And I get the 219 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,479 Speaker 1: sense that I get the sense that jay R Alexander 220 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: is out to prove that the twenty twenty two Alexander 221 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: that got an All Pro second team selection for the 222 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: second time in his career, that that's the guy the 223 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: Packers are going to see moving forward, not the you know, 224 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say malcontent, but the but the 225 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: less enthusiastic and somewhat selfish guy that we saw in 226 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 227 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: Couple things to all that. One, there is something to 228 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: be said for the even years in Jo's career tends 229 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: to be the big ones for him were kind of 230 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: like the present Smith thing a couple of years ago. 231 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: We've now entered that again. I've always said this, I 232 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: will continue to say this because just getting the conversations. 233 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: I've had with JayR. Over the years. 234 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: I told people even last year when things weren't going great, 235 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: this is not a prima donna. This is not a 236 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: pretentious dude. This is not a guy that is going 237 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: to be a problem for a football team. But he's 238 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: very proud and if you understand where he came from 239 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: his upbringing, what he had to do to fight to 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: get to Louisville, to get to the National Football League, 241 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pride that's involved in that in 242 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: his football game. And I think when he has had 243 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: a chance to kind of step back a little bit 244 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: and look at where he's at. How many times did 245 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: he say during that news conference Mike that press scrum 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: talking about him being a seventh year guy, a seventh 247 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: year VET, a guy that he wants to be a leader. 248 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: And I think JayR, at this juncture of his career 249 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: is really fully embracing that. And I just want to 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: mention this too, because you know, some people have talked 251 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: about the Charlotte thing in Carolina, and I'm probably more 252 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: than anyone, the one that's kind of let Gyr off 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: the hook on that. But the thing I think people 254 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: need to understand, I want to make sure this gets 255 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: this point gets made. I can't imagine what that must 256 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: have felt like for him to be back in his 257 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: city because there isn't a lot of those opportunities the Packers, 258 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: you know, Caroline Panthers are not an uncommon opponent, but 259 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: the Packers have not played there very often, so oftentimes 260 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: I've kind of put myself in Gyr's shoes, and I 261 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: don't want to say I understood what he did, but 262 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: there's a part of me that when I look back 263 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: on it, I think the way that that got painted 264 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: publicly is a lot different than what it was in reality. 265 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: And what I'm excited about listening to joh talk this 266 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: week is in addition to him saying the best cornerback 267 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: in the league has entered the chat. I enjoyed that intro, 268 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: but I think this is a guy that has always 269 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: been highly motivated. I don't think that's ever gone away, 270 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: but he just seems so focused on what his goals are, 271 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: on what the Packers' goals are, and the understanding too, 272 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: Mike that seven years in there's probably not another seven 273 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: on the other. 274 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: End of this. 275 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: Maybe he's Narl Green, who knows, Yeah, you know, but 276 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: I think JayR understands it's now about winning championships, it's 277 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: about building a legacy, and he has an opportunity to 278 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: do that with this football team. And I think that 279 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: is definitely something too when you look at this shift 280 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: and the coordinator of the shift in this philosophy that 281 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: I think really excites him. 282 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: And you mentioned how often during that media session he 283 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: brought up year seven, seventh year guy. The other thing 284 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: that he mentioned several times is that he's focused on 285 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: what he means to the team. Yes, not just what 286 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: he means for jay R Alexander at number twenty three, 287 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: It's about what he means for the team. And I 288 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: think that that mental shift is I think it's refreshing 289 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: to hear, and I think it's not only going to 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: be good for the Green Bay Packers, it's going to 291 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: be good for a JayR Elis sure as well. And 292 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: because I'm with you on the Charlotte thing, I think 293 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: there's I think there's a way to understand what happened 294 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: there without excusing it, right, you know, from the insubordination kind. 295 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: Of, and I understand why the Packers had to do 296 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: what they had. 297 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one hundred percent you had to you can't 298 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: you can't not let something like that go by. And 299 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: we were told that that wasn't that that was sort 300 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: of like the last incident. There were some other things 301 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree and obviously less publicly people didn't 302 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: know about him, that had gone on behind the scenes. 303 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: So but again, it's about for Alexander, it's about putting 304 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: all of that behind him. It's about moving forward with 305 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: a new focus, not only on the team, but but 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: on the new defense, the new coaches he's working with, 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the new approach on the defensive side that he seems 308 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: to be really excited about. And uh, And as you said, 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,359 Speaker 1: I think I think the word for a j Alexander 310 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: is focus. He's not he's not worried. He's not worried 311 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: about a contract right now. He's not worried about out 312 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: an injury, you know, a rehab recovery thing. Those are 313 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: the kinds of things that have been that have been 314 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, a part of a part of his approach 315 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: to different seasons in the past. And and uh, and 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: none of that is on the table right now. It's 317 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: it's about Uh, it's about what's in front of him. 318 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: And uh, I think I think it's going to be 319 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting to see how that evolves, 320 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: because for everything that has happened, there's absolutely no question 321 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: nobody is questioning whatsoever that JayR Alexander is the number 322 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: one cornerback. 323 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this team and the thing I love too. 324 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: He mentioned the communication with Matt Lafleur and Brian Goodekuntz 325 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: as well, in addition to Jeff Hafley and the part 326 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: that I really and this goes back to when you 327 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: have a good culture and your football team, the fact 328 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: that you can have everything that happened at the end 329 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: of last season, Charlotte, him getting suspended from Minnesota and 330 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, even before the end 331 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: of the year, everybody came together and put their cards 332 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: on the table. In the amount of maturity that was 333 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: shown both by the front office and Jai Air to 334 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: keep this thing going. How often do you that yarn 335 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: just continually unravel They nipped it in the butt at 336 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: that point, and Josh said, I mean he was back here, 337 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, when he was asked the question why are 338 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: you here this year, He's like, well, I. 339 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Was already here. We've talked about that before. 340 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he'll train here during the off season when 341 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: they aren't here for OTAs and everything else, and he 342 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: decided to stick around and see where things took him. 343 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: The one thing I love about John and again, he's 344 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: the He's the type of dude that fascinates me as 345 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: a human being because money is important. Don't get me wrong, 346 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: It's very important. But if you remember when he signed 347 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: his contract extension, he mentioned he was wearing like a 348 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: polo shirt that he had bought from Goodwill. I mean, 349 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: this is a guy that he doesn't live extravagantly by 350 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: any means, but it is about what it meant to 351 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: him to be the highest paid cornerback in the league, 352 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: what it means to him to be a leader in 353 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: this locker room. And I think when you have that 354 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: type of drive in you, even if there's going to 355 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: be some moments of adversity, that's going to continually inject 356 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: that fuel back into the engine to keep this thing going. 357 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: And that's why I'm excited to see what Jock can 358 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: do now in twenty twenty four, for injuries aside, he 359 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: can get this thing going. 360 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you one hundred percent on that. 361 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: A little bit of sponsor business here Wes Sirius XMNFL 362 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 363 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, 364 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: three sixty five. 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And that's the 371 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: new number one running back in town, Josh Jacobs coming 372 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: over as a free agent from the Las Vegas Raiders. 373 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: And the crux of the story, and the crux of 374 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: a very long conversation with multiple reporters at his locker, 375 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: was that, and setting aside that a course in free agency, 376 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: a lot of times it does come down to the 377 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: best offer, you know, the best contract. A big money 378 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: contract doesn't hurt a guy who'd been looking for that 379 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: kind of money and then played on the franchise tag 380 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: his his fifth year with the Raiders, but he's looking 381 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: for a place to establish a legacy, and for him, 382 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: a legacy for the best players in football is drawn 383 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: up in postseason football. He wants to play in the playoffs, 384 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: the biggest games, the ones that matter the most, and 385 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: he wants to prove in those biggest games that he 386 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: is a big time player. And in his five years 387 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: in Vegas he made exactly one playoff appearance. 388 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: Who is his coach? 389 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: Rich Basaccia as the at the time the interim coach 390 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: of the Raiders. Got the Raiders into the wild card round. 391 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: They were playing in Cincinnati, and Jacobs actually had a 392 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: pretty good game. 393 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: He was he had a hell heck of a game. 394 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had. He had one hundred and twenty seven 395 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. It was I believe it was eighty 396 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: three rushing, forty four receiving. 397 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: Game seventeen. 398 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he had a heck of a game. The 399 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: Raiders came up short. They had basically what was looking 400 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: to be a game tying or potentially game winning drive 401 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: if they had scored and gone for two, ball got 402 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: intercepted at like the goal line or the two yard 403 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: line or something like that in the final seconds of 404 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: the game. So Cincinnati moved on. Cincinnati ended up going 405 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl that year. But that's the only 406 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: postseason game that Josh Jacobs has played in. And when 407 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: you come from Alabama and you know, it's about national championships, 408 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: it's about making the college football Playoff and all that, 409 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: and then you play five years in the NFL and 410 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: you get exactly one playoff game. You know, this is 411 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: a guy. And this is what I wrote about it. It's like, Okay, 412 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: he's had three thousand yard seasons, he has an NFL 413 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: rushing title. He you know, he's been named first team 414 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: All Pro obviously the year that he won the NFL 415 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: rushing title. He's now got the you know, the big 416 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: money contract that he saw. So the goals start to 417 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: change for veteran players in those in those in and 418 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is all about getting to the playoffs and 419 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: chasing a championship, which then for him personally, he hopes 420 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: to leave a legacy in a place like Green Bay. 421 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: I was talking to a member of the packers I 422 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: will not name, but you know, we were talking about 423 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: how difficult it is losing Aaron Jones. But the fact 424 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: that from a personality standpoint and a human standpoint, we'll 425 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: see how things work on the field. But Josh Jacobs 426 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: has been that everything and then some when it comes 427 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: to filling those type of shoes that Jones left. I mean, 428 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: you're talking about an extremely positive, high character individual. If 429 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: you know anything about his background, you know, growing up homeless, 430 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: you know things like that, how that shaped him in 431 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: the ways that that can drive a person. And I 432 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: don't know Mike a little bit, and I haven't had 433 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: a huge amount of interaction with him so far, but 434 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if I've yet to see him without 435 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: a smile on his face, whether it be on the 436 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: practice field in the locker room. 437 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: He just s has that type of disposition. 438 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: Of himself in an easy going kind of move, much 439 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: like Aaron Jones in terms of just the approachability. The 440 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: guy did the Packers Junior Power Plaque Kids clinic on Saturday. 441 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: Our ladies in Brandon Marketing and everybody over in that 442 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: side of the building, they do a tremendous job with it. 443 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: I my nephews have been a part of it. Highly 444 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: encourage you to take part in that. But a lot 445 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: of times it's a lot of the rookies, It's a 446 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: lot of the young guys getting back to Jiro Alexander, 447 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, and jyr Alexander were over there. Yeah on 448 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: a weekend. You're these guys are able to leave town. 449 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: They don't need to be here for anything. But it 450 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: shows you again, and he's taking pictures with kids. He's 451 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: embracing that aspect of it. Now, the other side of it, 452 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: the professional athlete side of it, is, this is a 453 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: guy's highly motive to get back to the postseason. He's 454 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: highly motivated to show that he's still the player he 455 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: was two years ago. 456 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: When he was the NFL rushing champion. 457 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: And he's still relatively young even for that position. Yeah, 458 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: I believe at twenty six years old. So I think 459 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: when you're looking to what was the biggest question the 460 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: Packers had this offseason, what's going to happen with Aaron 461 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: Jones and what is going on in the secondary the 462 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: back end with safety Xavier McKinney and also bringing in 463 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs. They solve those two answers before we even 464 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: got to the draft, and I'm just really excited to 465 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: see hopefully there was a little bit of a hamstring 466 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: flare up, hopefully nothing going on there. We're expecting to 467 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: see him more this week, But all in all, Man, 468 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: this is a guy that's been a belcoll in the league. 469 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: He's played at the football at the highest level, both 470 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: in the pros and college, and now he's hungry to 471 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: be able to build onto that legacy with potentially a 472 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowl championship. 473 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Yah. 474 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: And he's he's excited about what he's seen of Matt 475 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: Lafleur's playbook as well, just in terms of you know, 476 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: when you think about you think about the times that 477 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: you know Aaron Jones would motion out of the backfield 478 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: and line up in the slot or maybe even line 479 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: up wide, you know, on the weak side of the formation, 480 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: but the running back is split out wide and you're 481 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: trying to get the defense to commit to something to 482 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: create a matchup somewhere. Josh Jacobs sees himself and I 483 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: think Matt Lafleur has told him that he's going to 484 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: be used in some in similar ways, and he couldn't 485 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: be more fired up about that. This is not just 486 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna, you know, take twenty two handoffs 487 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: a game and pound the ball between the tackles. The 488 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: Packers are going to use him. Now, there are certain 489 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: things Aaron Jones could do that that Josh Jacobs might 490 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: not be able to do. But there are also some 491 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: things that Josh Jacobs maybe is able to do. Matt 492 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Lafleur can set him up for some certain situations that 493 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: that maybe didn't necessarily apply to Aaron Jones. So there's 494 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: gonna be there's there will be some interesting x's and 495 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: o's that go along with his incorporation into this offense. 496 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: And from what I could tell, he's pretty fired. 497 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: Up about it. I'll tell you what. 498 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 3: Man, watching the running backs a little bit and these 499 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: ota practice so far, you see the body types of 500 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, Aj Dillon and then rounding that out with 501 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: Marshawn Lloyd. Yeah, especially in Lloyd and Jacob's case, guys 502 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: that are you know, shorter dudes, but just are so 503 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: well built and put together. I mean, guys that pack 504 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: a series also add some explosive. 505 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a thickness to those guys without 506 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: looking slow at all. And that's what That's what strikes you, 507 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: and and it just it it makes me that much 508 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: more curious to see. Okay, when when they put the 509 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: pads on, because we haven't other than the Monday night game. 510 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, last year out in Vegas, we haven't really 511 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: seen you know, Josh Jacobs, you know, going full speed 512 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you know guys like that, you know, 513 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: put the pads on and start to you know, start 514 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: to sync those hips into a move and then see 515 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: who can tackle them. It's going to be fun to watch. 516 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you, Mike, I haven't really 517 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: watched a lot of Josh Jacobs football until the last 518 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: couple of months, going back and watching some, you know, 519 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 3: because again when the Raiders, you know, they've been struggling, 520 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: they've gone through some tough times, and they aren't always 521 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: a nationally televised team right now. And but the more 522 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: highlights I've watched, and especially when you mentioned the pass 523 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: catching element, does that guy just not strike you as 524 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: a dude that's just champing at the bit to have 525 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: that part of his game showing. 526 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. He averaged about forty receptions per season 527 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: in his five years in Vegas, and we had talked 528 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: about this before. I think he's I think he and 529 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur are looking for a potentially significantly larger number 530 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: than that. Talking about pushing maybe fifty five sixty receptions 531 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the season as opposed to like 532 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: high thirties low f It'll be interesting to see how 533 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: it plays out. 534 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: He ain't get too much into the scheme stuff, and 535 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: certainly we haven't really even done a lot of this 536 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: in the off season program. But when you I don't 537 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: expect the you know, the pistol looks with the two backs, 538 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: I don't expect any of that to go away. I 539 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: think there's still a lot of those pony type elements 540 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: of this offense there that are still going to be 541 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: parts of it. Because as much as it helped to 542 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: have Aaron Jones, it's not like the Packers built their 543 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: entire offense just around that one guy, right It was 544 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: built out for multiple backs. It's the thing Mattlefloor has 545 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: talked about for years that he wants multiple options, and 546 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: right now, in Josh Jacobs, you have a guy that 547 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna get the three hundred 548 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: touches that he was getting there per season in Vegas 549 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: and originally Oakland. 550 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: But I had a lot of guys to share the 551 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: ball with around here, whereas in Vegas the last couple 552 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: of years it was sort of Jacobs and DeVante Adams 553 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: and and other than that, you know, everybody else was 554 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: kind of playing a real secondary role. 555 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Pretty simple. 556 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited to see where it takes us, 557 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: and and certainly year and a chance to have him 558 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: talk some more. And I think he's gonna be guy. 559 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: It's to me extremely popular throughout the course of the 560 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: season in the locker room. Yeah. 561 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Well, there's a story on Jacobs that was posted Monday 562 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: on Packers Dot. Another one, one last thing before we 563 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: go If you didn't catch Mark Murphy's monthly MT five 564 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Murphy Takes five, which was posted on the website on Saturday. 565 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: He decided to break some news for us. Yeah, that's 566 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: he did, because he announced in that column that the Packers' 567 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: first training camp practice will be the morning of Monday, 568 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: July twenty second, and the shareholders meeting is going to 569 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: be that afternoon. This will be a first a training 570 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: camp practice and the shareholders meeting on the same day. 571 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: It's going to be a wild and crazy day at Lambeufield. 572 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: I might call him sick that day, just warning you. 573 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: I can see, I could see you're already thrilled about 574 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: what the first day of training Camp is bringing here. 575 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: But that was the news. 576 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: That was news we learned over the weekend. Is the 577 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: start of training camp and the shareholders meeting on the 578 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: same day, Monday, July twenty two. 579 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 3: If you call him sick that day, I'm not going 580 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: to do the full on like scarface thing to you, 581 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 3: but there might be some dead fish heads in your 582 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: bed that morning or something like that. July twenty second, Mike, 583 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 3: July twenty. 584 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: Second, it's gonna get it's going to get rolling. Uh yeah, 585 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: there's there's no there's no stop in that train once 586 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: it leaves that station. 587 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: My selfishness aside, I think it's a great idea. I 588 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: like the idea of training Camp. I know it's because 589 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: of Brazil, but training Camp and shareholders I think is 590 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: I think they're onto something. There being on the same day, 591 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: I think that's that can be a really big deal 592 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: for people. It's a way to keep it because I 593 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: think there's one thing about Green Bay. It's an awesome city, 594 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: it's an aweso community. It's cool to be around. But 595 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: training camp practice, especially those that first one is like 596 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: an hour and a half. Then what do you do? Well, 597 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: you got the shareholders you got some stuff around the stadium. 598 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea. Just wish it was 599 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: July twenty ninth. 600 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be nice if it were a week later, 601 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: if we had another week of summer before we dive 602 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: into things. But Mini Campus next week, Mini Campus next week, 603 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: and the off season program ends, and then you and I 604 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: are probably gonna figure out a way to not. 605 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: See each other unless you're coming to Vegas with me 606 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: five weeks. 607 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm not coming to Vegas with you. I'll be 608 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: following your uh, I'll be following your social media timeline though. 609 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: On that Vegas follow yeah, there will be. With that, 610 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna call it a rap on this edition of 611 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 612 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: of the team. One more week of OTAs this week, 613 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Mini Camp next week. We will continue with Packers Unscripted 614 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: shows through the end of the off season program. So 615 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: for Wes, I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. 616 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: Everybody. 617 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: We will see you next time.