1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: For the first time since two thousand and to your 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are headed back to the NFL playoffs eighteen long, 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: long years. I'm Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and Nathan Zigura, 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and well, with such great news, we have to bring 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: back the best podcast available and gentlemen, a pleasant Tuesday 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: morning to you and yours and Gribble, I'll start with you, 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: what a what a five month period this has been 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: from the moment we set foot back in Bourria, they 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: allowed us back in Buria for training camp, and we 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: were back in Barria basically until right before Thanksgiving before 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: we got the boot and got thrown back out. But 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, it has been crazy. It's been up, 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: it has been down, and yet somehow here we are 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: getting ready for wild Car to weekend. Browns and Steelers. Yeah, 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy to think that it's been five 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: months already. It does seem like we were just doing 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: this all so so soon ago. But at the same time, 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: this really has been a day by day grind for 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: both the Browns and the rest of the NFL. And 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: the Browns I think navigated it better than the majority 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: of teams in the NFL, and that's why the Browns 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs today. I think a lot of 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: teams had a lot of adversity thrown their way, whether 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: it be through COVID, whether it be through injuries, whether 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: it be through anything else. The Browns had their fair 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: share of it, so did a lot of NFL teams. 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: But I think the Browns and their focus, their mentality 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: created by Kevin Stefanski, that it guided them through this 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: in the weirdest NFL season will ever experience, and the 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Browns played their best football we've seen since it was 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: just it really was. But it was about the day 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: by day process that Kevin stevanskin still and this team 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: really embodied the girl. We were under a ten by 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: ten tent for like three weeks, and we were socially 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: distanced and I mean a hundred yards away from the players, 36 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what we were doing for training camp. 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: You were anchoring Brown's Browns Live and all the craziness 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: that was going on with that. And in the blink 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: and I here we are, Week eight, team of the 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, getting ready for wild card weekend. 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on on a crazy, crazy year yeah. Well, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: first of all, it's great to be with you guys. 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: It's great to be doing the first ever playoff edition 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: of the b p A with you guys. I got 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: a chance on Monday to the first ever playoff edition 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: of Cleveland Brown's Daily, which you give it. We had 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: a great time with that, and it's just it's such 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: a treat to be here for the great fans of 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: this organization and for this city, because man, I know 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: how much they wanted it, how much they needed it, 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: and to finally get it is awesome. Now the team, 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: certainly they want more. They're not done, and now the 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: task is to go want to know again this weekend. 54 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: But you know, first of all, it's just miraculous NFL 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: finished it season. Every team played every game. We finished 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: an NFL season in the face of this global pandemic, 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: which is is miraculous. I think when you actually look 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: back at it and think about what happened to every 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: other major professional sport that the NFL did it on time. 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: In the schedule, it laid out, and I think we 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: all thought, you know, all right, here's the schedule, let's 62 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: try to get the twelve games. Let's try to get 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: something that resembles the season, so we can have a 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: real champion. No, you got all seven teen games, then 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: the Browns go eleven and five, and if they didn't, 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: if they went ten and six, they would have made 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Which is again in saying that's with an 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: extra playoff team. With seven playoff teams, you needed to 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: go eleven and five this year, and the Browns did 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it amazingly. The a f C North got three teams 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: in whether it was a six team playoff or seven. 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Three teams from the f C North made at us 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Steelers who ended up winning the division. 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I think GRIBs hit on something that 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: is the perfect encapsulation of of everything that happened, and 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: that is Kevin Stefan scheme and the culture that he 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: and Andrew Berry have brought to this organization. And I 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: always talk about the three piece, the preparation. He's got 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: the preparation, he's got, the plan and the process to 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: implement the plan. And I think his commitment to that 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: process day after day, the focus on the work and 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: let everything else take care of itself day after day 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: throughout the season, same after wins as he was after 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: losses that allowed this team to have the resilience that 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Grips talked about, to have the perseverance to overcome games 86 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: when everybody you thought was gonna be starting in your 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: secondary wasn't available to you, and to do the things 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: that they've done week after week after week. How about this. 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: We never lost consecutive games this year, never, and we won't. 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: We will end this season no matter how it ends, 91 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: whether it wins with ends with four straight victories or 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately the playoff run comes to an end. At no 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: point where the Browns have been defeated twice in a row. 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: And that, to me is the epitome of resilience. And 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I think that is to me at credit is due 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: obviously the guys who execute on the field, but this 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff, this organization, and Joel Betonio talked about it 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: in the victory speech, everybody rowing in the same direction. 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: How proud he is a guy who drafted back in 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, thought look, we're seven and four 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of that season, this is what it's 102 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna be. And it takes all the way until now 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: to finally get the playoffs. For Joel Bitonio, but he 104 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: said it's the culture change that he is the most 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: proud of because that's sustainable. We are doing things that 106 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: are sustainable in this organization. This won't be we're gonna 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. We're gonna have to win eighteen 108 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: years again. Oh no, this is gonna be a regular occurrence. 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: But we're gonna stay here in the present and cherish 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, let's get the first one in grips. 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: And Nathan Dad said that there was only four teams 112 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL that didn't lose consecutive games this year, 113 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: both number one seeds, the Packers and the Chiefs and 114 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: then the Colts. That's some good company to be in. 115 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: And I think that the fact that the Browns got 116 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: in and they would have gotten in the under last 117 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: year's format. Granted Week seven teen would have looked a 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: little bit different under the old format, but it's just 119 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: a testament to how really good this season was, and 120 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: truly for the Browns, the best season they've had since. 121 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's clear cut. It was the best. 122 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: And you even look back at some of those games 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: in this guy, maybe you could have won that Raiders 124 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: game there was even there was much more winnable games 125 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the Jets game as well. This was a special season 126 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: for this team and they grinded through each each single game. 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: All right, So my question to you guys, as as 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: I stated in our rundown, the top three reasons the 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Browns were able to get back to the playoffs for 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: the first time in eighteen years, will go from three 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: to one. Uh gribble, I'll start with you. Your third, 132 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: your number three reason how the Browns were able to 133 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: get back, well, I think it was the improvements on 134 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think that that was clear from 135 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: UH day one where they added Jack Conklin and free agency, 136 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: which made your draft a lot easier than you had 137 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to Jendrick Wills, and I think both of those players 138 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: were as advertised and even for I think Genderal Wills 139 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: is probably better than we thought, considering he had to 140 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: make the move from right tackle to left tackle coming 141 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: out of college. Conklin was solid as usual, and then 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have the emergence of this 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: beast in Wyatt Teller right guard, who I don't know 144 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: if any of us were banking on that kind of 145 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: performance out of him, and so when you have this 146 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: offensive line that's this good and playing under Bill Callahan, 147 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: you're able to withstand the amount of injuries and other 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: adversity that this offensive line dealt with this season. I 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: think that if you had dealt with the injuries that 150 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the Browns offensive line had this year in the past, 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: it would have been in some big trouble. But you 152 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: were able to go to guys like Chris Hubbard. Kendall 153 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Lamb was able to help out. Nick Harris stepped in 154 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: big in the Giants game. You had the depth to 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: survive the amount of injuries you had on this offensive line, 156 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: and now you're healthy and at full strength, and that 157 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: offensive line made your running game great. It made Baker 158 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Mayfield a lot better. It was the biggest thing you 159 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: did in the offseason and it paid off in a 160 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: big way. The girl your number three reason the Browns 161 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: were able to get back to the playoffs for the 162 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: first time in eighteen years. I'm gonna say, Myles Garrett, 163 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: He'll be the number three reason for me because and 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this offense, I'm sure as we go on. 165 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: But the first eight games of the season, outside of 166 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Dalla, we were not exactly an offensive juggernaut, 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: and we were certainly not the team that we became 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season offensively. And it 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: was Myles Garrett. There was a game when he had 170 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: four straight games where he had a sack, strip fumbled. 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he was going towards being the defensive player 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: of the year. Unfortunately COVID that happened, and you know 173 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: that affected him, made miss a couple of games and 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: affected him, as he still said to this day. But 175 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett in the first half of the season, remember 176 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon who finished the season with nine sacks and 177 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a huge loss, losing him at the end of that 178 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: game against the Steelers. I don't think he had a 179 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: sack in the first six games of the year, And 180 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: so it was Myles Garrett was a one man wrecking crew, 181 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: and that defense in the first eight games of the 182 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: season led the NFL with seventeen takeaways. Now the second 183 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: eight game season completely different story. But that first eight 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: games of the season, it was Myles Garrett and his 185 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: ability to just completely wreck games week after week after 186 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: week that was critical. And it started in that Week 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: two game which we had to have against Cincinnati. Gets 188 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: this extra fumble right the goal line changes that one 189 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: doesn't It just seemed like every week. And so Myles 190 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Garrett just an incredible season, finishing with twelve sacks and becoming, 191 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: you know, the first Browns player in franchise history to 192 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: have double digit sacks three seasons in a row. Gribble 193 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: number two for you, I'm gonna go at the quarterback position. 194 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: It's Baker Mayfield. I think that his improvement from year 195 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: two to year three is why this team got to 196 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: where it needed to be. And I think not only 197 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: did he improve from year two to year three, but 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: there was some dramatic improvements after the bye week. And 199 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: I think that the biggest number for him is the 200 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: drop in interceptions. I mean, he he went from being 201 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: among the league leaders and interceptions last year to having 202 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: only eight uh this this season. And I know we 203 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: made a lot about that streak in the middle of 204 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the season where he didn't throw an interception. He's ending 205 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: the season now with that I think roughly about a 206 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen straight passes without an interception. So playing 207 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: fantastic football. Has been the leader of this team. More mature, 208 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a more humble version of Baker Mayfield uh, and really 209 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I think you saw only in the season him getting 210 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: a grasp of the Stefansky offense, and then the second 211 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: half of the season kind of a mastery of it. 212 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: And really he went at the team went as he went, 213 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: and he got better as the season on, and and 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the offense simply just got better as the season on, 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and he won this team some games and some really 216 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: tough spots. A girl number two for you, all right, 217 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the running back Tannum that was operating 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: behind that offensive line that Gripps talked about as his 219 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: number three, Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. And you know 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: those two spectacular Chubb mrs four games but still runs 221 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: for a thousand over a thousand yards thousand and sixty 222 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: seven yards, twelve touchdowns, leads the NFL five point six 223 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: yards per carry. And then you've got Kareem Hunt eleven 224 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: total touchdowns on the season, nearly twelve hundred total yards 225 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: of his own, and six receiving touchdowns on the season 226 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, five receiving touchdowns on the season for Kareem Hunt, 227 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: which made him the most effective receiving touchdown leader on 228 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: our team. So I just thought that those two guys 229 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and the variety with which they were used. That employed 230 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. The running game when they were both on 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the field, we were as good at running football team 232 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: as anybody in the NFL. What Kareem gives you as 233 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: a receiver, especially in the red zone, just a total 234 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: mismatch waiting to happen, a blocker on Maserati, the quarterback 235 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: sweep to to seal the game against the Steelers. I mean, 236 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: those two guys did everything that you could have asked, 237 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of excited to see what our playoff 238 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: mixed with those two looks like. But Nick Chubb probably 239 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: the best running back in the league. You know he's 240 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: in it's him, It's Derrick Henry, it's Dalvin Cook. And 241 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: then you think of a dual threat guy, you know 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, former NFL leading rusher in his own right. 243 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Those guys are electric and it's no surprise that we 244 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: have an identity. We had an identity. The offensive line, 245 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: I think was the backbone of this football team, and 246 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: then the running game. That was our identity, and that 247 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: gave time Again. That first half of the season was 248 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: critical because we were not clicking on all cylinders. As 249 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: an offense. But we knew we could do two things. Well, 250 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: Miles Garrick could go WRECA game and we could run 251 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the football with Nick chub and Kareem Hunt, and that 252 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: propelled us to five and three in those first day 253 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: games when I don't think we are necessarily playing our 254 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: best football yet, Grilla, your number one reason why the 255 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Browns are back in the playoffs, Well, I alluded it 256 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: to the at the top, but it's it's Kevin Stefanski. 257 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's the culture he installed, 258 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: it's the offense he installed, it's it's just everything that 259 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: he brought to the table. And I know he's not 260 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: a not a guaranteed guy to win the NFL Coach 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: of the Year. I think Sean McDermot is probably maybe 262 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna get that award because the Bills finished. But it's 263 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: hard to find a more worthy candidate for an NFL 264 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: coaching year than what Kevin Stefanski has done. And it's 265 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: just this is a different This is a lot of 266 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: the same basis from two thousand nine team, but is 267 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: it is a completely different team. And I think amid 268 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: all the circumstances, the adversity they had in the off season, 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: installing a new offense, installing a new defense. The list 270 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: goes on and on and on, and just the week 271 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: by week things he had to deal with, the day 272 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: by day things he dealt dealt with steady hand the 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: entire way. And I think that's what this team needed 274 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: with a lot of big personality, is a lot of 275 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: guys who are who are getting better as players. The 276 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: exact coach you needed for this situation, and he delivered. Uh. 277 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: When you're in the same breath as Paul Brown with 278 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: most coaches, most wins as a rookie coach for the Browns, 279 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: you've done something right. A girl Number one for you, Well, 280 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you made it very difficult on me since I had 281 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: to go second every single time in this which makes 282 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: it a real challenge. So I have to zig and zag. 283 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: But what I'll say is, and Kevin Sancy is gonna 284 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: be my number one. But I'll say Kevin Stefanski and 285 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry and Paul Dipodesso, the three of them together, 286 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and it's everything that the Gripps talked about with Kevin Stefanci, 287 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, as money. Mitch said to me, he's got 288 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: no fluster when your head coach has no fluster, your 289 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: team has no fluster. And this was a team that 290 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: if you go through a lot of our wins in 291 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: the olden days, you would have said, oh, and this 292 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: is where they lost the game, and this is where 293 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: they lost the game, and there's where they found a 294 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: way to lose the game. But what this team did 295 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: was found a way to win all of those games. 296 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: They made it interesting sometimes, but they found a way 297 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: to win all of those games. And Kevin Stefanci deserves 298 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of credit and Berry deserves a ton of 299 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: credit as well because he came in here and you 300 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: have them all working in unison, and I think that's 301 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: so important and this organization at times that that has 302 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: not been the case, and to have that be the 303 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: case now, I think is clearly very helpful. Andrew Berry, 304 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I thought, did a great job with some of the 305 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: moves in the draft. And you think about Jacob Phillips 306 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen, has to play all sixties seven defensive snaps. 307 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Does it plays at a high level. You're getting a 308 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: ton out of a sixth round picking Donovan People's jones. 309 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: You needed Nick Harris to step in a fifth round 310 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: pick that you only got because of your you know, 311 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: Hootspa to move back in the second round, still get 312 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Grant Delpit and pick up that free fifth round that 313 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: turns into Nick Harris who makes a huge start for 314 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: you and basically comes in and plays a great game 315 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: and one that you had to have on Sunday Night 316 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: football against the Giants. You know, it's those things from 317 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: this draft class. Elliot has had his moments, and you 318 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: think about Harrison Bryant's fourth round pick, all the things 319 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: that he's done. Jedrick Wills has been sensational. You think 320 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: about the free agents. Austin Hooper has been great. You 321 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: talk about Jack con glennon remaking the line and all 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: the things that he has done, and just all the 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: little pieces everything bringing together, and really the culture and 324 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: character of the guys they want. You're smart, tough, accountable. 325 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: That's what we've heard all season. And you got that, 326 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: and you've done this and I think this, this is 327 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: another big piece of credit for him. You've still managed 328 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: to be reasonable on the back end of your defense. 329 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: When you think about the fact it was supposed to 330 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: be Denzel Ward and Greedy Williams. Greedy hasn't played a snap. 331 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Grant Delpit hasn't played a snap for you all year. 332 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: You make the great trade to get Ronnie Harrison, who's 333 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: turned out I think to be one of our best players, 334 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a centerpiece of our future, I 335 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: think on the defensive side of the ball. But just 336 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: the vision and understanding. Andy Janovic a perfect fit for 337 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: what you do, so you go out and get him 338 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: those things, those moves. I think We're just tremendous by 339 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry and shaping this roster. And you can't get everything. 340 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Sure there are still holes, but you had another offseason 341 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: to try to work and adjust some of those things. 342 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: And then Paul de Podesta, because he's been here five 343 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: years and he's had his ups and downs in the media, 344 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: he's had his ups and downs with this franchise and 345 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: yet stuck to his convictions about what the best practices were. 346 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: And I believe without Paul d. Podesta, I don't know 347 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: that you end up with Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, 348 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: And so he has to get a lot of credit 349 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: as well for all of this. And you have three 350 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: people at the top who have all the traits of 351 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: the people that you know in your lives, everybody who's 352 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: listening to say, yeah, that guy is really successful. That's 353 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: a very successful man or woman. They have certain characteristics 354 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: and traits. The three of those people all have them, 355 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and they're leading your organization. So kudos to those three. 356 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Kudos to the Haslems who continue to try and find 357 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: the right mix over and over, a great expense to 358 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: themselves and a great you know, dealing with a lot 359 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: of flak from the media and dealing with a lot 360 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: of very hard times, and yet they were committed to 361 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: getting it right and they finally have So kudas to 362 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: all those people at the top of our organization because 363 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: without that you don't have the culture. You can't have 364 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: the culture without everybody buying in. What you see here 365 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: is a team in an organization that has bought in 366 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: to what those people at the top are doing. And 367 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: that's why that's the number one reason why we are 368 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: where we are today. All Right, that's a look on 369 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: how we got here. Time now for our celebrity of 370 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: guest appearance on the best podcast available. No it's not 371 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: Nathan Sagara, John Greco with a few minutes here to 372 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: join us on our playoff preview edition of the best 373 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: podcast available. A former Brown, an NFL VET, but a 374 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: guy that's from northern Ohio and from northeast Ohio, and 375 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: you played your college football here, you played the bulk 376 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: of your professional career here. What did what did Sunday 377 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: mean to you? To see the Brown's knock off the 378 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: Steelers and get into the playoffs finally for the first 379 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: time in eighteen years. It meant so much. And the 380 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: excitement level was through the roof, you know, watching the game, 381 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: watching them close it out the way that they did 382 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: with Baker finishing it on that on that nice run. Uh, 383 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: it just it just excited. Know. I was looking at Twitter, 384 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: looking Instagram, talking texting all my buddies, looking at the 385 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: social media of my uh former teammates have played with 386 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: me in Cleveland, and they were extending their congratulations and 387 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: their excitement. So it means a lot to everybody that 388 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: used to play with the organization. All my buddies that 389 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: I grew up with around this area are still huge 390 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: brown Stands, their parents, their parents, So it's generations of 391 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: Browns fans that that were able to breathe a sigh 392 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: of relief yesterday that they did actually get over the hump, 393 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: and and like I said, like I kind of used 394 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: I was talking to somewhere earlier. Today they are at 395 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: the door of turning this thing around and busting through. 396 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: And I think they're right there, guys, And um, it 397 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: was just an exciting thing. I'm happy for the players, 398 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm happy for all the fans, everybody involved with the organization. Uh, 399 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think there are bright things to come. All right, 400 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: here's our segment. It's called one Thought. I'm gonna give 401 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: you a player, a coach, a position group, give me 402 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: one thought on not what you saw in week seventeen necessarily, 403 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: but what you've seen throughout the twenty season. Girl, how 404 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: long can the thought be? Is it just like a 405 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: one sentence or is it like, can you expand? Can 406 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: you have a thesis you want if you want to expand? 407 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: We don't want to Like this isn't an hour long 408 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: time quick, it's quick. We want to keep it moving 409 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: here a little bit. But yeah, I know you like 410 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: overachieve and we'll let you do that. And actually I'll 411 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: let you kick this off since I didn't let you 412 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: kick off anything. Segment one One thought about our quarterback 413 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Baker may feel we'll start with him. Just tremendous progress 414 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: and everything that you wanted to see. You know. The 415 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: one thing they always say is the eye in the 416 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: sky doesn't lie, and to see Baker may feel go 417 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: from a quarterback in the first half the season that 418 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: at times appeared uncomfortable, still a quarterback that at times 419 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: appeared to predetermine where he was gonna go to with 420 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: the ball, whose footwork was not necessary, he matched up 421 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: with his eyes to seeing the quarterback that he's become 422 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: over the second half of the season, when I think 423 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: he's been a top five quarterback in the NFL, and 424 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: so do the statistics. A guy who knows where he 425 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: wants to go with the football, who is confident and comfortable, 426 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: who is making good decisions, climbing the pocket, delivering the 427 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: football on time, spreading it around, just playing kind of 428 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: point guard, his feet matched up with his eyes so 429 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: that he's able to go through one to three progressions 430 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: and then deliver the ball. It's tremendous and is taking 431 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: care of it. That's the other thing. Twenty six touchdowns, 432 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: eight interceptions to get through over twenty interceptions a year ago. 433 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: Massive tremendous progress. And I would say the arrow is 434 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: absolutely pointing up gribble. One thought for our running back 435 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, please, Well, I think he's going to be 436 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: fresh going into the playoffs, and I think that that 437 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: is a very good thing. I agreed with I agreed 438 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: with Stefanski yesterday. I thought that touchdown run, I don't 439 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen Nick Chubb run harder than that, 440 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: And that's saying something because he has had a lot 441 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: of those big touchdown runs. But I think he is 442 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: a player that I would really circle for Sunday's game 443 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: against the Steelers because that is a missman. That is 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: an area where the Steelers are struggling of late, is 445 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: stopping the run, and I part of me just thinks 446 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: you had that game with a lead all the way. 447 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Keep Nick Chubb fresh and ready to go, and I 448 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: think he is going to he is poised for a 449 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: big game. On something, John, I'm going to skip over. 450 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: Landry will get to him in here in just a minute. 451 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: But your level of expertise really centers on that Brown's 452 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: offensive line. So I'll give you the Browns offensive line 453 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: is a group. This is a perfect segue to this. Uh, 454 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: this group just with those two gentlemen just covered. They 455 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: have been the difference makers this season. It was a 456 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: group that needed addressed in the off season and it 457 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: was the focus obviously bringing in Jack Conklin, drafting Jeddrick Wills, 458 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: and you know, there was a lot of question marks 459 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: at right garden. All why Teller did was come in 460 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: and perform, and in the extremely high level. You have 461 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: a pro bowler, probably an All Pro caliber player at 462 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: Joel Bettonio and j. C. Trader is one of the smartest, 463 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: one of the better centers in the NFL. So what 464 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: all those guys did, the way they came together, with 465 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: the chemistry, the way they jelled, and they're able to 466 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: give Baker time. Like Nathan was saying, you see he 467 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: has confidence in the pocket. You see he's able to 468 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: go through his progressions. And then like Drew was saying 469 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: with Nick Chubb, with Kareem Hunt, those guys are having 470 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: success because the guys up front or moving bodies, they're 471 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: displacing the line of scrimmage, they're running, they're playing physical, 472 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: and they're finishing on the second level. And it's been very, 473 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: very fun to watch the girl. Back to you, Jarvis Landry, 474 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: You're welcome I wanted that one first of all, courtesy 475 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: of our great pr staff. He's done something as a 476 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Brown that hasn't been done since Eric Metcalf, which is 477 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown, catch a touchdown, and run for a 478 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: touchdown in the same season. But I'll just this is 479 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: my one. Though I love him. I love Jarvis Landry. 480 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: He to me is the heart and soul of this team. 481 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: I think trading for him a couple of years ago 482 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: is the best move this franchise made other than hiring 483 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, in terms of what he brought and meant 484 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: to the culture of this team. He will compete no 485 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: matter what, no matter what the shape of his body 486 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: is in he will make every catch you need him to. 487 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: He obviously has a cannon and a perfect quarterback rating. 488 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: He cannot be stopped when throwing the football. He just 489 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: ran one in this week. Everything about blocking. You can't 490 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: have this offense work. You cannot have all the big 491 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: runs without your wide receivers being committed to blocking down 492 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: the field. He has committed to that, and he got 493 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: everybody in that room, along with Chad O'Shea, to be 494 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: committed to that. I think that Jarvis Landry is everything 495 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: that is right about the Cleveland Browns. I want him 496 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: to finish his career with the Cleveland Browns. I love him, 497 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: and I hope someday he helps get us to a 498 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl. And there's a Jarvis statue because to me, 499 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: he is everything and everything that is right about and 500 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: embodies what it truly means to be a Cleveland brown 501 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get back to the guy that uh 502 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: one would argue as the franchise face of the franchise 503 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: in just a minute. But Gribble, I wanted to get 504 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Browns secondary. Well, unfortunately it's kind 505 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: of been the one question mark and that there's a 506 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: couple of reasons for that one that it's just a 507 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: rotating door. I mean, you go all the way back 508 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: to training camp, Grant Delpit stuffers the injury, Greedy Williams 509 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: suffers the injury, Kevin Johnson was out for a while, 510 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to go at the start of the season. 511 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Uh And then now you circle back all the way 512 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. You go in your 513 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: final game, Denzel awards out, Kevin Johnson's out, Andrew snails out. 514 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: So that's that those are three very important players in 515 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: your secondary that, even when it's healthy, is not among 516 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: the best in the league that has had its issues. 517 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: So it's one area that if you're gonna circle this 518 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: area of the team needs to step up for the 519 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: Browns to win a playoff game. That's the one that 520 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I think they found something early in 521 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: the game with with Joseph and Harrison at the safety positions. 522 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: I think that's an option you have to go for 523 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: this game. And I just think you're gonna need a big, 524 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: bigger and better game out of Robert Jackson, Terrence Mitchell 525 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: at those corner spots. You've got the interception friend j Stewart. 526 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: You've got to assume going into this game that's what 527 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: you've got against this Pittsburgh wide receiving corps, and they're 528 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: just gonna need to play a bigger and better game. 529 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think, personally, before we get in the matchups, 530 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: just throwing it out there, I don't think Roethlisberger plays 531 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: the same game as Rudolph. I'm not as worried about 532 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: those forty yard prayers that Rudolph was thrown up there 533 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: last week. It's gonna be more about guarding them on short, 534 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: quick passes and making the tackles when they're there. Mr Greco, 535 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts on one Miles Garrett In. I mean, Miles 536 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: has been everything is advertised. You know, they drafted him 537 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: to be a guy that's gonna come in and dominate games, 538 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: and he is that. He hasn't felt short of that. 539 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: When he is on the field, he is affecting every play, 540 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: whether he's not getting if he's not getting his sack, 541 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: he is, you know, affecting guards, tackles, eyes. They have 542 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: to game plan for him, slide his way, to put 543 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: extra sets of hands on him. He's when he gets 544 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: near the quarterback, he's getting his hand at the ball. 545 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Obviously he has the forced fumbles and the takeaways, uh 546 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: in the sack numbers. And I think when he's healthy, 547 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: he's a defensive Player of the Year candidate every year. 548 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: When he's healthy, he'll be a pro bowler, a perennial 549 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: pro bowler, all Pro. And I think he has the 550 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: capability and the talent and the work ethic and the 551 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: skill set to be a defensive Player of the Year 552 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: candidate every year if he stays healthy. But he he 553 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: has not. He has been pressed me every week that 554 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: he's been out there. He's still a dangerous player. When 555 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: I was on the team, you know during trading camp, 556 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: but we had to block him. It was a total nightmare. 557 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: And every team has you know, you want a guy 558 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: on that on your team like that that he causes 559 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: issues offensively. All right, before I let you go, John, 560 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: and we appreciate the time here today. Uh, look at 561 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the battle in the trenches. It's gonna come the way 562 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday. And obviously we can talk about on all 563 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: the scale position guys, but it really comes down to 564 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line and the defensive line of the Cleveland 565 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: Browns winning their matchups on Sunday. What are you seeing 566 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: here in the early going as these teams get ready 567 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: to face each other for a third time and twice 568 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: in one week. Well, I agree with Andrew. I think 569 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: that they were kind of arresting Nick Chubb, and I 570 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: think we're getting ready to see him really get the 571 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: safety off and let him go go full steam. Uh. 572 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: And what that means is this offensive line is just 573 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to win their one on one matchups. They're 574 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: all gonna be healthy. We've seen them work together in 575 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: their combination blocks have been flawless. I watched them on 576 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: tape and watched their replays and the way that they 577 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: take care of the line of scrimmage and get up 578 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: to the second level. They're doing it the best in 579 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: the business and the best in this NFL. Obvious lead. 580 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: And you know when when you see the personnel, if 581 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: they're gonna be going against they're gonna see arrested Cam Hayward, 582 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna see arrested to it obviously t J. Watts. 583 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: So they're gonna have their hands full, um. But but 584 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: I think they're they're the right guys up for the job. 585 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I know that they're gonna do some things to help 586 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills, the young rookie. With t J. Watt, those 587 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: two interior guys do such a good job of creating 588 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: pressure in the middle and compressing the pocket, and t J. 589 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: Watt feast on the quarterbacks because they have nowhere to go. 590 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: They can't step up in the pocket and he's able 591 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: to bend, bend the corner and get to them. But 592 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: I think our line is up for the job. We 593 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: have very stout guys in the interior in Wyatt's and 594 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: Joel that are gonna help keep those defensive tackles on 595 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and our tackle is gonna be 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: locking them down. John, appreciate a few minutes of your 597 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: day this week. Sure, I'm sure we'll be talking with 598 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: you again as the week progresses, and of course we 599 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: look forward to hearing you on Sunday on Brown's Network 600 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: pregame starting at four thirty and at six thirty as well, 601 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: uh leading up all the way to kick off at 602 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: eight fifteen Sunday Night, Browns and Stealers. John appreciate it 603 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: as always, and best wishes the rest of this week, guys, 604 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, go Brown's. Thanks to John Greco for as 605 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: time and the former Cleveland Brown very excited and obviously 606 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: from being from northeast Ohio as well, a big moment 607 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: for him on Sunday seeing this team go back to 608 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs for the first time in eighteen years. The 609 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: playoffs are here, guys, and the Brown Steelers one of 610 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: six games on wild Card weekend, three games on Saturday, 611 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: three games on Sunday on Saturday Colts Bills, Rams Seahawks 612 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Tampa Bay, Washington. We'll get to that. How 613 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: about that. The early game Baltimore, Tennessee Bear Saints the 614 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: middle game, and then Brown Steelers on Sunday night. The 615 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: byes go to Kansas City and Green Bay Gribble. When 616 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: you first look at this bracket, what what are your thoughts? Uh? 617 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a The one thought that comes 618 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: to my mind is a tough break for the Titans. 619 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: You win the division and now you gotta host the Ravens, 620 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: who I think are playing arguably the best football in 621 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: the NFL right now. I would not that that's not 622 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: much of a gift, and it's not great when you 623 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: go into a season you're eleven and five, you host 624 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game, and you are an underdog in your 625 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: home stadium. I think that's a that's a tough beat, 626 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: and it almost makes you wonder what the Titans have 627 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: been better off losing their first their game yesterday and 628 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: going to play Buffalo. I don't know. Both teams are 629 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: playing great, but I don't know if I want to 630 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: face the Ravens right now. It's a girl your thought 631 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: When you see that bracket, they have ceas loaded. I 632 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: mean that's the first thing that I look at it. 633 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: You had to win eleven games to get into the 634 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: playoffs this year, and that to me is an incredible, 635 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: incredible feat. And you know, I think the Chiefs are great. 636 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs have really been trying to 637 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: put their best foot forward at any point this year. 638 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: They just do what they have to do to win, 639 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: and I'm curiously what they look like once they're at least. 640 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are playing the best football in 641 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: the NFL right now and are incredibly, incredibly tough. I 642 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: was very happy. I think the Browns match up better 643 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: with the Steelers than they do with the Bill, so 644 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I thought getting the sixth seed was very important there. 645 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: And then you're right, the Ravens are playing excellent football. 646 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: But again, this is a Titans team that beat him 647 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year. But before I say, oh, well, 648 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: it's the same kind of matchup, it is not. The 649 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Titans defense is horrible, and last year the Titans defense 650 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: was great. They played great defense, they ran it. Tannehill 651 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: was thrown in about ten times a game. This year, 652 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: tannyels playing as well as anybody in the league. To 653 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, the guy can make every throw. 654 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: You saw what he could do with his legs in 655 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: that come from and that win over the Texans, and 656 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: he's been sharp all year. A J. Brown's a treminius receiver. 657 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Corey Davis is having a great year. Derrick Henry is 658 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: doing everything that you could possibly want from a running back. 659 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: But they have to win shootouts each and every single week, 660 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and that is hard to do because one misstep here 661 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: or there, one turnover, etcetera derails it. And so it's 662 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: a totally different matchup than it was a year ago. 663 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: And the Ravens if they showed anything when they came 664 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: here on Monday night, and I still don't think we 665 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: played our best football and could have easily won that game. 666 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: It's that they can play in shootouts this year and 667 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: so that I think the Tennessee defense is its big 668 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: Achilles heel, and I think that's what's gonna ultimately end 669 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: up costing them in that game. Now, if they get 670 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: out to a big lead early, If it goes the 671 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: other way the Ravens have a couple of turnovers early, 672 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: then I think it favors and the Ravens still to 673 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: me need to play in kind of a neutral to 674 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: positive game script. But the Titans defense is so bad. 675 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: I just don't see them building a big lead on 676 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens without the Ravens scoring the football. Odds, each 677 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: one of you give me the odds that Kansas City 678 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: in Green Bay actually make it to the super Bowl 679 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: as the number one seeds is the girl you go first? 680 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't even know how to respond 681 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: to this odds. I don't know. I think, look, they're 682 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: both the favorites to win their conferences. I think Kansas 683 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: City is a very very how about this, either neither 684 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: or both make it to the super Bowl. I think 685 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: it is much more like if you had a wager 686 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: on one. I think the highest odds is that one 687 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: of the two will make it, but that I think 688 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: it'll be difficult for both to make it. It It would 689 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: surprise me. None of the scenarios would surprise me. I 690 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: think the most likely is that one makes it. I 691 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: just think the a f C is loaded. I think 692 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: the Bills are playing so well. I think the Ravens 693 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: with the right game script, even though they've never beaten 694 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs in this era, they can beat them. I 695 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: think the Browns can beat anybody when we play our game. 696 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: I just think the a f C is is a 697 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: pretty loaded conference. I don't know the Titans defense. To me, 698 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: they're the one team that I don't think has a 699 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: chance because their defense is so bad. Um, but any 700 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: of the other teams I think have have a chance 701 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: to get hot and make a run. And that's what 702 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: it's about. In the NFC, that's a much different playoff 703 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: to me. That's a playoff where you've got Green Bay 704 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: who's real. I think you've got the Saints who can 705 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: beat anybody who are real. The Bucks are starting to 706 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: get I don't know what they did, but that passing 707 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: offense all of a sudden is starting to look good. 708 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a taco bell they knew was coming down 709 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: their way that they're excited about. But they're starting looking now. 710 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, if he's out, I think that's a major 711 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: loss for them. They still have Antonio Brown and Godwin, 712 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: but Evans and his size is a difference maker for them. 713 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: So I think that those three teams are real. The Seahawks, 714 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm not ready. Their defense is playing much better, but 715 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: something's weird with their offense. I don't know what it is, 716 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: but I won't count them out. The other teams over there, 717 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: forget Washington football team is not going far. The Bears 718 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: are not going far. But you have I think four 719 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: real teams over there in the Rams, obviously without golf, 720 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: and we don't know's they're just. I don't think they're 721 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: gonna be able to ride that defense all the way. 722 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: So whereas I think you've got six serious contenders over 723 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: in the a f C. I think it's only four 724 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: in the NFC, but there are four in the NFC 725 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: are really good. Gribble either neither both. I'm gonna go 726 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: with either, and I think I'm more of a stronger 727 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: lean toward the Chiefs being the one that's more likely 728 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl, because I agree with that. 729 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: I think they've been on cruise control this entire season. 730 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the quietest fourteen and two season 731 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: that if they played anyone yesterday would have been fifteen 732 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: and one. I just think that they were so good 733 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: and so comfortable with who they are all year. I 734 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: just think the Bills are are are a total wagon 735 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: right now. You don't want to face them, but they 736 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: are maybe one year away, I think from being able 737 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: to get past Kansas City. I think they need one 738 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: more year together with their system for me to like 739 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: them or the Chiefs. And on the flip side, I 740 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: think the Packers have they been good, but then they 741 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: got housed by Tampa Bay earlier this season, and they've 742 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: had games where they start off fast and then their 743 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: offense just goes into a cave. I mean, you you 744 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on with them, but I 745 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: just don't know who the competence it's. The NFC is 746 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: just so weird with what's going on. I mean, the 747 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Rams don't have a quarterback. I mean, and you mentioned 748 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: the Saints. I mean, would you be stunned if the 749 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Bears beat them in the first round if they don't 750 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: have Kamara. I mean that that is a huge player 751 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: to not have. With the way Drew Brees has just 752 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: been not good this year, the Bears are a good defense. 753 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: They can make life difficult for him. I mean, that's 754 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: if I'm picking a surprise, that would be my biggest 755 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: That would be the biggest surprise because I don't think 756 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: the Bears kind of maybe match up well at the Saints, 757 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: especially when they don't have one of the best players 758 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: in the NFL in the field. If that game we're 759 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and Drew Brees had to play outdoors, I 760 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: would feel a lot better about the bears chances that 761 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: thing that And so I'll say this, if it's Green Bay, 762 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans in the NFC Championship game in Green Bay, 763 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints have a chance unless Camara 764 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: just completely takes over the game and they go takes 765 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: mill Breeze has been bad outside for years, years, and 766 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be even worse now. He's lost even more 767 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: miles per hour off that fastball. He's old, he's not 768 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: as accurate as he was. They I don't think they 769 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: have a chance outdoors. The only reason I think that 770 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna comfortably beat the Bears is that they're indoors. 771 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: And Octavius Murray, as far as having a backup running 772 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: back that you need in a one game situation, is 773 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. But obviously Kamara is the one who makes 774 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: that offense go. Period. End of story. And I don't 775 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: know what happened to Michael Thomas this year. I know 776 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: he's fighting people, I know he's unhappy, he's hurt, this, that, whatever, 777 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: But his disappearance this season is one for the ages. 778 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: And I know if you were a fantasy owner of 779 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 1: his you know that more than anybody, but just insane. Yeah. 780 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: And and the Bears gave another old quarterback a lot 781 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: of issues this season. Taco Bell, Taco Bell, Tom So, 782 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm not as bad as the Bears were. I mean, 783 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: they lost five straight games this year and they're in 784 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's got to be like one of the 785 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: first times that's ever happened. But they're they're not. They're 786 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: a tricky eight and eight team that give you problems 787 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: because anyone that plays defense is not a team you 788 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: want to face. It's like, wow, a defense, like you know, 789 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's just a weird matchup. And 790 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean Drew Brees is talking about retirement like it's 791 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I don't I don't love the 792 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: same Jamus. Let's push, let's hit the brake. Let's get 793 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: the brake on that. All right, that's a look at 794 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: the at the big NFL playoff picture before we go. 795 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: This is Tuesday, So we're not gonna get into, you know, 796 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: the biggest things involving our game because a lot still 797 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: to be determined. You know, we know Olivia Vernon is 798 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna be out the the COVID crew, like just because 799 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call them. We don't 800 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: know who's gonna be in. We don't know who's gonna 801 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: be out yet. There's a lot to be determined. Teams 802 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: won't be back in their buildings until Wednesday. UM. I 803 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: will leave you this though, when it comes to the 804 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, because we've talked about how they've gotten here. 805 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: If the Browns are to win Sunday Night, they must 806 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: do what gribbled one thing from you. I think they've 807 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: got to force multiple turnovers. And I think that because 808 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: I think that will be enough to ensure you win 809 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: the turnover battle, and this team wins every time that 810 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: they win the turnover battle. I mean to get through 811 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: two straight games against the Steelers and not commit a turnover. 812 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: I can't be that greedy. I think I'm banking on 813 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: maybe one turnover from the offense against the Steelers defense. 814 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: But I think if you force multiple turnover against against 815 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers, get to Ben early, makes get him making 816 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: some bad throws. We saw what happened against the Bengals. 817 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: I think that get you on a path to victory, 818 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: because then I have enough trust in the offense that 819 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: they get the job done the girl. Yeah, Gribbs is 820 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: exactly right. Look, we're tennane this year when we're neutral 821 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: or win the turn over battle undefeated, So that is 822 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: that's one key. The other one that's the key that 823 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: is also tennano this year. Have the lead at the half. 824 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: And I think when you go into Pittsburgh, you take 825 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: the lead into the half, so you get out to 826 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: a fast start, you don't get in a hole. We're 827 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: down ten points in the blink of an eye the 828 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: last trip there, and then they feed off of that 829 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: and they get after the quarterback and you start getting nervous. 830 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: We take the lead and we punched them in the 831 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: mouth first and we go into the half with the lead. Again, 832 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: I think they're the pressure is on them. The pressure 833 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: is much more on them than it is on us 834 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: at that point. And like I said, we're tenant ol 835 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: tenan oh when we lead at the half. That to 836 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: me is one of the most unbelievable stats of the season. 837 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: Same with the turnover one. But it's pretty simple. Our 838 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: formula is actually pretty simple. When the turnover battle or 839 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: be neutral in it, have the lead at the half. 840 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: When you do that you you don't lose. We have 841 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: not lost the game when those two things have happened. 842 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: So if he takes turnover battle, I'll say, take the 843 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: lead a half, can't lose, And as long as by 844 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when Rennegade comes on, it doesn't matter. 845 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: That's really all I care about. Let's let's just hope 846 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: for that. I will say this since I've been with 847 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: this team since two thousand and thirteen and then on 848 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: the road for the first year in two thousand and fourteen, 849 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: I love that stadium. I love the atmosphere. I think 850 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: it is a darn shame that it is not going 851 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: to be packed to the brim because it creates one 852 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: of the best atmospheres in the NFL. And all I 853 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: have ever wanted was to be in that stadium for 854 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: a Brown Steelers playoff game. All I've ever wanted, and 855 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, and I cannot wait for this Sunday. 856 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: But it's a shame that it is happening in this 857 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: year because that environment. And to hear if the Browns 858 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: can do it, and the Browns certainly are capable of 859 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: doing it, but to hear the deafening silence of that 860 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: stadium is something unfortunately I've never gotten to hear, and 861 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I would love to hear, especially on this stage. Do 862 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to complain about the 863 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: fact that those that there's not gonna be seven thousand people, 864 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: silent counts, all that stuff. This is agreed. It helps, 865 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: it helps, it does, it does, and there is so 866 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: much more to come. It's just Tuesday morning. There will 867 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: be a lot more content the written word on Cleveland 868 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: Browns dot Com, Cleveland Brown's Daily Browns Live, all of 869 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: our media platforms here over the next five or six days. 870 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: A lot of content every day, two minute drills every day. 871 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: What he said every day he's getting crazy. We have 872 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: a ton of it and we're gonna have it all 873 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: covered for you leading up to kick off Sunday night 874 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: at eight fift Browns Steelers Wild Card Weekend. Want to 875 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: thank Jeff McDaniel for his help. Want to thank John Greco. 876 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: Want to thank Nathan Zigura and Andrew Gribble. The b 877 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: p A is coming back for the off season, but 878 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: right now it's nothing but the playoffs. Not talking about 879 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: the off season. It gives We don't even know our 880 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: draft pick yet. That's a great new feeling, a great 881 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: feeling smart, yeah, a fantastic feeling. That's how you end 882 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: the show, Gribbs, that's how you do it. Mike Draft 883 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: walk off the stage for Nathan Ziagura, for Andrew Gribble. 884 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks for watching, Thanks for listening to 885 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: the best podcast available