1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: All right, how did they get here? Really, that's the 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: question that is coming right up. Good morning everybody. This 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy from It and away we go. Bucky, 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: how are you? How are you? How did you miss me? 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 3: Just tell me? Did you miss me? 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 4: Well? 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 5: I couldn't completely miss it because I had the younger 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 5: version of you, but I had a lot of fun. 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 6: I had a lot of fun with yours. 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: I want to thank you for taking care of my 13 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: son Alex. Thank you so very much. And by the way, 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: we have a newbie today. We got Brandon Deutsch. Brandon, welcome, 15 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: coming in for bree today. How are you, Brandon. You've 16 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: got a little bit of a head cold. Thank you. 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: We'll hold hands together, We'll make it through. 18 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: We will. 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: All right, go get some hot tea or something like that. Okay, 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: we have asked Bucky today, So if you if you 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: want to ask Bucky a question, you could tweet us. 22 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: You could tweet Bucky at Bucky Brooks and Andy from 23 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: an FSR or when the time comes at the end 24 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: of this hour eight seven, seven ninety nine on fox eight, seven, seven, nine, 25 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: ninety six, sixty three, sixty nine, and away we go. 26 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: You know, yesterday, Buck, I think maybe one of the 27 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: best college football days I've seen in a long time. 28 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say forever because my memory is not 29 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: that good, but for a long long time, it's been 30 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: a great day. First off, good news, our guy Bill 31 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Belichick won at North Carolinia is today beaten stand for twenty 32 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: fifteen a little bit of a nail bier, but at 33 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: least they won their four and five right now, so 34 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: we got that out of the way. 35 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: But what about that Indiana game? All right? 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: They scored they all scored their Big ten opponents, the 37 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: last three of them, by about forty points. They're playing 38 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: the Penn State, a losing team. They're up twenty to seven, 39 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the Nitley Lions of Penn 40 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: State come back. I got to give them a lot 41 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: of credit. That team is dead in the water. They 42 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: came back. Was it that Indiana just led up or 43 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: Penn State just had a lot of grit? I don't know, 44 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what it was. 45 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: It could have been a disaster for Indiana since they 46 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: have lost and you know what. They had lost thirteen 47 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: straight to Penn State. It's amazing. 48 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: You would have told me like two years ago that 49 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Indiana is going to go to University Park Penncil Rock 50 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: and beat up on Penn Stand, I would have left 51 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: in your face. Now, all of a sudden, Indiana has 52 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: become a football power. 53 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Indiana is good, But I think what we learned 54 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 5: is this Penn State team, despite their record, they were 55 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 5: a team that was touted as a national title contender. 56 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: And what Indiana found out when. 57 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: The football found out the talent didn't change. Their execution 58 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: wasn't what it needed to be, which led to the record. 59 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: And you saw when they played together they can go 60 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: toe to toe with any team, because you remember they took 61 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: Oregon to overtime early in the year. Credit Indiana for 62 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: bouncing back. These games are hard games because sometimes your 63 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 5: players can look at the record and they want to 64 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: be complacent or lax. Kirk Signetti found a way to 65 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: keep his guys in it. They bounced back from some 66 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: adversity and they found a way to win. 67 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 6: And if you look at. 68 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: Every championship team, they've all had to overcome some kind 69 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: of game where they were just off the mark, but 70 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: found a way to get it done. Maybe this is 71 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: their game that they had to overcome and will look 72 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: back and be like that was the tip point to 73 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 5: then one on championship run. 74 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were down twenty four to twenty what about 75 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: four minutes left in the game, maybe with two two 76 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: minutes maybe two three minutes left in the ball game, 77 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: and they went like eighty yards and ten plays for 78 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: the score and they won that ball game and an 79 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: unbelievable catch. 80 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a little bit later. 81 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: But you know, the more I watch football, be in 82 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: college in the NFL, I gotta believe coaching really makes 83 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: it difference. And I never thought it did that much 84 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: because if you watch baseball, I think what the manager 85 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: does is try to just keep everybody together, you know, 86 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: kind of like a club. He got twenty five, twenty 87 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: six guys on the roster, make sure everybody's you know, 88 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: going in one direction. In football, I think it's a 89 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: different animal. And I see how different coaches all of 90 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: a sudden could come in and turn a program around. 91 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Seeing it in the NFL, and I see it more 92 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: so in college. You know, Indiana is Kurt Sidney, What 93 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: does he have. What does this guy have. 94 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: That others don't that he could turn around like a 95 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: magician make Indiana a winner. 96 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: Well, I mean he brought half his team with him 97 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 5: when he first got there, so that jump starts. 98 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: But the way I think they were from James Anison, 99 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: which is not a power, really doesn't. 100 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter though, like it could, because the levels 101 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: of talent are similar if you really look around, like 102 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: the talent has been watered out, so outside of like 103 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: Ohio State that has collected all the five stars and 104 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: maybe Alabama and Georgia the five Stars, and the talent 105 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 5: goes all over the place. 106 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: Secondly, when you take. 107 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: Guys from lower levels and bring them up, you're getting 108 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: an older, more mature player because they have to play 109 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: all four or five years of their eligibility to have 110 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 5: an opportunity to play at the next level if they're 111 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 5: even good enough. So you get some more mature products, 112 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: someone that knows the system, something that allowed them to 113 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: play faster early. That builds confidence, and with confidence then 114 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: comes the ability to stack on top of that, which 115 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 5: is what they did this year. 116 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 6: So coming on the hills of last year, they stacked added. 117 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: Some more transfers, kept the chemistry and continuity the same, 118 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: gain more confidence because now what he said they would do, 119 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 5: they're doing, and now it kind of becomes that snowball 120 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 5: that rolls in game. He's momentum. So there's a lot 121 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 5: of momentum there. There's a lot of belief there. And 122 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: I'll say this, he's a really good coach. He's won everywhere. 123 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: That confidence that he has he has with the staff 124 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: that has remained with him through some of those. 125 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 6: Small schools on his journey here. 126 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 5: So all of that continuity and chemistry matters, and that's 127 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: why Indiana has played so well from the jump. 128 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I cut something you just said. A real good coach. 129 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: I think Bill Belichick may be one of the greatest 130 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: coaches of all time. How Come he's not having an 131 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: uneasy goal of it at North Carolina? 132 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: Well, I don't think he's having an easy goal. But 133 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: anyone who's paying attention to Carolina in the last four games, 134 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: they look like a very competitive team. They're not the 135 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: greatest team, they don't have the best players, but they 136 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: are scrapping competitive and there has been a pivot and 137 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: a turn. Look, no one says that you can wave 138 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 5: a magic wand and your team can be zero and 139 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: eleven and then all of a sudden be title contenders. 140 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 5: Though it happened for Indiana, every circumstances situation is different. Look, 141 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 5: Kurt Signetty has been able to catch lightning in a bottle. 142 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: He's been able to sustain it temporarily. But at some 143 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 5: point things will level out and we'll get a chance 144 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 5: to see who he is and what he's really like 145 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: as a coach when they have some adversity. That storm 146 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: is always lurking and it's always going to come, and 147 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: so how he handles that will really be a testament 148 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: to his greatness, just like some of these other great 149 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 5: coaches have had to show their greatness, like Dabo and 150 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: other guys that have won titles. 151 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: Okay, now I ask you a big question of the day. 152 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza, Heisman Trophy winner in Indiana, their quarterback. 153 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 5: I think it's important for me to separate Heisman Trophy 154 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: winner in the NFL prospect. 155 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, he can win. 156 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: To Heisman Trophy because the Heisman Trophy typically goes to 157 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 5: the quarterback where the Gaudia stats or the quarterback on 158 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 5: the best team, they may end up being the best team, 159 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: and there's no one that can necessarily compete with him 160 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 5: in terms of consistency of performance, production and the team's success. 161 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 6: So yes, he can win to Heysman. 162 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: I think people need to be careful about tit touting 163 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 5: him as the number one overall pick, though, because the 164 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: same guy that was at Cal is the same guy 165 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: that's at Indiana. And he's fine, and he's a solid player, 166 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 5: but I don't think he's a revolutionary, a game changing 167 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 5: player at the position. So yes, he can win the Heisman, 168 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: but I would pause on all the conversation about him 169 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: being a number one overall pick. 170 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: All right, Speaking of the quarterbacks, let's talk about Dante Moore, 171 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: the quarterback of Oregon who kind of like threaded the 172 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: needle at the end of the game. Is thy toy 173 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: give that Oregon Duck team a win a heartbreak? Well, 174 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: it's a heart throbbing game eighteen sixteen over Iowa out 175 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: of Iowa in the rain, and the win in the rain, 176 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: it was an amazing It would have been a death 177 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: knell if Oregon would have lost that game yesterday figured 178 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: about the CFP, they would have been gone College Football Playoffs. 179 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, they would have been gone. 180 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: I mean, Dan Lennon does a really good job, and 181 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: I think people under estimate how hard it is to 182 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: win in Iowa. How good Iowa traditionally has been with 183 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: players that typically ranked below the players that they're competing 184 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: in against. So for Oregon to take Iowa's best punch 185 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: and find a way to win it in the end 186 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: testament to their toughness, their character, their grit. Dan Lanning 187 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 5: has an abudding superstar in Dante Moore. There's gonna be 188 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: a lot of conversation about, Hey, Dante Moore needs to 189 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 5: come out, he should ended. 190 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 6: The draft, and those things. 191 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: The best thing for him is to continue to play, 192 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 5: continue to stack days in terms of practice and games 193 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: and those things, because ultimately that experience. 194 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: The more experience you have at. 195 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 5: The collegiate game, the easier the transition is when you 196 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: go to the pro game. He is a really good quarterback, 197 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: and I hope he continues to say at that level 198 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 5: because there's so much more work to do. 199 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, you know two coaches out there that are 200 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of grief now now the fact 201 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: that North Carolina is one of the last three. I 202 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: think they're gonna take a little pressure off Belichick and 203 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna stop running about him and his girlfriend and 204 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: in his life off the football field. But there's another 205 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: coach right now who's gonna get some grief. It's going 206 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: to be Deon Sanders. They lose yesterday at West Virginia 207 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: twenty nine, two to three and seven. Right now, I 208 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: got to believe the honeymoon may be over. But honestly, 209 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: you look at this team. West Virginia had like seventeen 210 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: sacks all season long. They sacked the Buffalo seven times yesterday. 211 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on right now at Colorado, 212 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: but it's kind of a little crazy, and all of 213 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: a sudden, now I'm hearing Dion Sanders saying that he's 214 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: apologizing to the fans. They deserve better, and he's not 215 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: permitting the players to be at the postgame news conferences 216 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: to talk to the press, which I think is wrong. 217 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Here's Deane. 218 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: Let's have a little listen to what coach Sanders has 219 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: to say. 220 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 7: This is what it's about, is not is not whatsoever. 221 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 7: And we are so much better than what we're doing 222 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 7: right now. If I could put my finger on one thing, 223 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 7: you know, you gotta want this thing, man, you got 224 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 7: to have a locker room full of kids that really 225 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 7: want this thing a lot more than they want certain 226 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 7: things that they enjoy. And we we did some team 227 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 7: but we've done everything today of on to try to 228 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 7: flip it. But unfortunately we had I hadn't seen the 229 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 7: fight going out of these young men whatsoever. We just 230 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 7: make some stupid mistakes and we can't capitalize on turnovers. 231 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, they were down like twenty 232 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: two to sixteen. I had a shot to win that game. 233 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: They were like fourth and four from like the fifteen 234 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: yard line of West Virginia. I don't know what happened 235 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: over there, But are. 236 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: They not that good? Is that? The thing? 237 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand it's hard to mess guys coming 238 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: in from all over the place. It's not like you 239 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: recruit guys from one place and they stay together for 240 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: several years and they bloss them when they play together. 241 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: You're bringing it a crew of guys and I got 242 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: to get them together to play together. 243 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: And that's tough. It really is tough with the portal situation. 244 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 6: I mean, look, I've said this. 245 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: Everyone thinks that all the answers to college football's problems 246 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: are in the portal. 247 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 6: But a lot of. 248 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 5: Times the portal presents more problems because the guys that 249 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: are in there can be problem children because they didn't 250 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: like their current situation, or they're self centered enough where 251 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 5: they prioritize. 252 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 6: Money over team. 253 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: In those things, I would say, in Colorado's case, I 254 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 5: think Dionne said it, you got to make sure that 255 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: you have a team of guys that really love it. 256 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 6: You can't beg them to want to work. 257 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 5: You can't beg them to do the little things that 258 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: you have to do to give yourself a chance to 259 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: win each week. That has to be inside you, and 260 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: maybe they just don't have enough dogs to be able 261 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: to get it done. 262 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: You all right there? 263 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 6: Okay? Oh yeah, I'm good. 264 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: Oh good. So you would like losing it there for 265 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: a second. 266 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: But I hear what you're saying. But now my question 267 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: is this, Is there a chance that he's gonna bolt? 268 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: Is he gonna be there for the long haul? Now? 269 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know why people think that, yeah, 270 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 6: he's gonna be there. 271 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: I think the competitor in him wants to see him 272 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: build it all the way back up. He hears all 273 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 5: the noise, he hears the criticism, like much like Belichick 274 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 5: and those guys like people have been waiting for them 275 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: to fail, right, So you gotta look way through the noise, 276 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: continue to believe in what you believe in, make sure 277 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: you get the right guys, coaches and players to do it, 278 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: and then they have to execute it. 279 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he stays. 280 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: I think Colorado has benefited more from d than Dion 281 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: has benefited from Colorado in terms of the entire school, 282 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: the attention, the elevated profile in those things. He just 283 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: has to do a really good job of building it 284 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: back with the right players, and then they gotta make 285 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: sure they coach them right on game day, make sure 286 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 5: that the clock management, game manage, all that stuff is 287 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: up to park, no. 288 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: Doubt about that. 289 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Now I answer these segments saying how did they 290 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: get here? And that's the question is a question for 291 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: me at least, I mean at first college football poll. 292 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: It's great, you know, the College Football Poll is great 293 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: for coaches, but it's great for media people because it 294 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: gives us fun to talk about. 295 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: And the glory question that at least I have. 296 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame is ranked tenth in that and I say 297 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: to myself, why Notre Day was the highest rate of 298 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: two loss team in the rankings. When the rankings were 299 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: picked on Tuesday night, they were six and two. They 300 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: beat Navy yesterday, big whoop, forty nine ten. They beat 301 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: in forty nine ten, so that is seven and two. 302 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: The next big game obviously is the fifteenth of the 303 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: month as the number twenty four pit. Okay, they got 304 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: one quality win at home against usc two losses one 305 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: by three against Miami and home by appoint against Texas 306 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: A and M And honestly, what about Louisville. They were 307 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: seven and one. They lost yesterday, but they beat Miami 308 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: and they ranked fifteenth. Notre Dame right now is going 309 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: on the laurels of their brand and that's how people vote. Really, 310 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: I believe that, and it stinks. You want to have 311 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: a full football poll. 312 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm all for it, but be honest, be transparent. 313 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: I mean, really, Notre Dame tenth, come on and their schedule, 314 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: and honestly, Buck, you know it's not that tough. 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 5: Well, who do we think is better than them, that 316 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: deserves to be up there over top of them? I mean, look, 317 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: you not the Dame and the brand and the two 318 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: losses that you told me and that Egregious lost. Like 319 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: at the time Miami was one of the top teams 320 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: in the country when they lost to him and Texas 321 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: A and M by one, Texas A and them is 322 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 5: still undefeated. And I just saw Texas A and m 323 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: clobber Missouri in a big SEC game and they continue 324 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: to like keep the climb. So I don't see that. 325 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: I saw Louisville just lose the Cal. I can't dismiss that. 326 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: You know, like they lost to Cal. Cal is not 327 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: a ranked team, so I can't say that they're better 328 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 5: than them with their two losses. To me, Notre Dame 329 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 5: is deserving of being up in there. We can talk 330 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: about the brand and all that they always catch everyone's 331 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 5: best game. They'd beat a really good Navy team that 332 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 5: was seven and one pride to that game. Navy has 333 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 5: been back, Navy's played. 334 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 6: Well, and those things. 335 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 5: So I don't dismiss Notre Dame in terms of being 336 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 5: a top ten, top twelve team. To me, if they 337 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: run it out, they deserve to be in the playoffs. 338 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: Make somebody beat the Brand. This is also a team 339 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: that last year got to the finals, and so yeah, 340 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: if you want to give them some bonus cachet because 341 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: they were the runner ups last year. I'm okay with that. 342 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 5: We do that with the Philadelphia Eagles and the National 343 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: Football League. Hey, we're still doing that with the Kansas 344 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: City Chiefs. 345 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: The Chiefs. 346 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: The Chiefs are five or four and we're still like, hey, 347 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 5: watch out, they could be the most dangerous team. So 348 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: whatever it is they closet, I just know this, like, 349 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: when you win, and you win at a high level, 350 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 5: I'm more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt, 351 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: and Notre Dame deserves the better the fit of the doubt. 352 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 6: Basically, howay this year? 353 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. 354 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: You're right, but there's three teams right now, at least 355 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: in my mind that have two losses, And you tell 356 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: me which one is the best of the three. Notre 357 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Dame is seven and two, Texas is seven and two, 358 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: and Oklahoma is seven and two. All right, and they 359 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: had to buy yesterday. Okay, So here's the thing. And 360 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: Oklahoma lost to Texas. Okay, so what do you put 361 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: in there right now? I mean, I don't think Oklahoma 362 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: is better than Notre Dame, all right, but I think 363 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Texas is when they come to play. 364 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 365 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: I just have a problem because so you got a 366 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: lot of now you got a lot of conditioners, ifs 367 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: and butts and Jamie nuts and. 368 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 6: All this other stuff. 369 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 5: Like I just know this, Like Oklahoma and Texas square 370 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: it off and Texas beat them. I personally watched Texas 371 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: play last weekend against Vanderbilt, and they started off fast, 372 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 5: but they were fading even faster. 373 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 6: And Vanderbilt's a good team. 374 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: But I can't say that that was a dominant signature 375 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: win for Texas. So who else do we talk about 376 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: Texas beating that stamps them as a team that we 377 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: know to be the contender because we gave them a 378 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: lot of credit in Cachet based on the high preseason ranking, 379 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: based on how they finished last season. 380 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: It's the same thing. 381 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: I feel like if we're talking about brands, Texas is 382 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: living off brain brand recognition as much as Notre Dame. 383 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: So I would go Notre Dame Texas in Oklahoma. 384 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna find out how good Texas really is 385 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: with this. On the twenty eighth of the month, I 386 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: think they're at Texas A and m Well May maybe 387 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: a home game, Okay, And they got Georgia is coming Saturday, 388 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: so we'll see. Right now, it's all gonna come together. 389 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind and will because everything 390 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: kind of works out. 391 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: But right now were up in the end. I had 392 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of a question. Not Your Dame. You 393 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: kind of settled me down a little bit in the 394 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: Notre Dame situation, So I'm hearing you and you honestly, 395 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: I don't mind Not Your Dame being there because you're 396 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: talking about their brand. They're a national team, they really are. 397 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: I think they got the lumps all over the place, 398 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: and I think that it's great for the game of 399 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: college football to have Not Your Dame there because it 400 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: gets more eyeballs on TV and it's more exciting. Really, 401 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: I think more people want to follow Notre Dame than Texas. 402 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Texas has been followed this year because of Arch Manning, 403 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: who to me has been somewhat. 404 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 6: Of a flop. 405 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean whatever you want to call it, flop, disappointment, 406 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: all that is true. Right. He certainly hasn't been what 407 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: people build him up to be, which was a He's 408 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 5: the next great thing that we're gonna see in college football. 409 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 5: He is a good college football player. See if Sarkisan 410 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 5: has done a really good job of masking his deficiencies 411 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: while insinuating his strengths. And they've gone to more of 412 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 5: a side to side horizontal game that is up to 413 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: have success and improved the efficiency. 414 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 6: They are really talented team and when they put. 415 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: It together, as you said, they are one the top 416 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: five teams in the country. It's just how to reward 417 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: a team that is maddeningly inconsistent and you just don't 418 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get on a weekly basis. 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Catch us all about Fox Sports Radio shows, 459 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: How Live twenty four to seven and the new un. 460 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: Improved iHeartRadio WAP. 461 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio when the app to stream 462 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: is live all day every day, I'd be sure to 463 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in 464 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: the iHeart app, so it will always pop up at 465 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: the top of your screen. Okay, let's get into this 466 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: thing right now. Let's get into this because it makes 467 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: me feel good. 468 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: Bucky. 469 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: I know that you knew and know Pat Fitzgerald. Pat 470 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Fitzgerald all big ten linebacker at Northwestern for two years 471 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: in a row as a player and as a coach 472 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: at Northwestern. 473 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: Just to get a winning record is unreal. 474 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: So tell me a little bit because I know you 475 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: know Pat Fitzgerald, my correct, I mean, yeah. 476 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: I know from the start when he was at Idaho. 477 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: I just started scouting and then following him at Northwestern. 478 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: He's a really good coach. 479 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: So the other day Pat Fitzgerald comes up and he 480 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: says that he's one hundred percent vindicated. Why because Northwestern 481 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: fired him back in August I believe it was of 482 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I believe it was, yes, And he 483 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: said that there was some evidence on covered throughing some 484 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: extensive discovery that some players are reporting for misdoings in 485 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: the program. 486 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: Hazing and things like that. 487 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: But Pat Fitzgerald, and he's one of the good guys, 488 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: he come up and he had something to say about 489 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: that just the other day. 490 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: Listen is the coach Fitzgerald. 491 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 9: I feel one hundred percent vindicated. I mean, you alluded 492 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 9: to the statement earlier. I let that speak for itself. Unfortunately, 493 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 9: I'm not allowed to talk about other things a part 494 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 9: of that settlement, but I feel very, very vindicated. I 495 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 9: feel again, especially for our players and their families. You know, 496 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 9: the facts are the facts, and you know, I feel 497 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 9: vindicated for our players, our families, our staff, and you know, 498 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 9: I'm just I'm happy for my guys. I got a 499 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 9: bunch of them out there. I think ten of the 500 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 9: eleven starters right now are going to go compete their 501 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 9: rear end off on that defense. For Timmy mcgargoll in LA. 502 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 9: You know this weekend Top twenty defense, I think six 503 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 9: or so of the starters on offense, So those are 504 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 9: my guys. I love him, I'm proud of them, and 505 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 9: I want to see him have great success. And then 506 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 9: you know, we'll see if I get another group here, 507 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 9: hopefully soon. 508 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: All right, Pathwickgerald went one ten to one oh one 509 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: over seventeen years as a coach in Northwest, which I 510 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: think is unbelievable to have a winning record there with 511 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: the academic requirements coming in there. But let's talk a 512 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: little bit about the evidence. They said the evidence book 513 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: was uncovered during extensive discovery that it did not establish 514 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: that any player reported hazing to coach Fitzgerald, or that 515 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: coach Fitzgerald conducted and directed Eddie hazing. That doesn't necessarily 516 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: mean there wasn't any hazing going on, but he didn't report, 517 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't reported to him, and he didn't know about 518 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: how well. He's a CEO, so to speak of the 519 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: program as the head football coach. Now, let me ask 520 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: you this, you played college football, you played football in 521 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. Is hazing still going on and basically explain 522 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: to us what exactly hazing is to the uninformed. 523 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: Like there are different forms of it. 524 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: I would say this, though, hazan should never put anybody's 525 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: life in danger. Hazes should never be so demeaning that 526 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 5: it has psychological effects on players long after their days 527 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 5: are done or whatever. 528 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 6: I would say that every. 529 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: Team may have an initiation process where they have guys 530 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: a young guys pick up the paths you got to carry, 531 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 5: the older guys pass. Young guys, y'all are the last 532 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 5: to eat lunch in the mess hall. Young guys, y'all 533 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: have to do all these things before the older guys go. 534 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 6: But some of the things that have been alleged, not 535 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 6: only at. 536 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: Northwestern but other places, that goes well beyond the line 537 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 5: and well beyond initiating guys into the team. And this 538 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 5: reminds me very much of a few good men when 539 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: they talk about did you order the code red in 540 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: those things? So guys may be doing that stuff on 541 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: their own. The process, we're trying to find out that 542 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: patis general order the code red and they said that 543 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 5: he didn't. So it's very well that some of those 544 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: code red activities may have taken place, but it wasn't 545 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 5: at his direction, which is why he was acquitted or 546 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: settled or whatever. 547 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 6: That was. 548 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, apparently Northwestern they launched that investigation into the entire 549 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: football program after the allegations of hazing and also sexual 550 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: abuse were made by a former player back in twenty 551 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: twenty two. But I believe that the thing came to 552 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: light when it was written up in a school newspaper. 553 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: Really, so basically he's vindicated. But I got to believe 554 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: right now it's system. He's vindicated. I think he'll be 555 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: back coaching real soon. Don't you think he'll get a 556 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: job again in the college ranks. 557 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he absolutely will because there are more jobs than 558 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 5: I would say qualified or capable of coaches. 559 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 6: So he'll land one of those jobs. 560 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: He could land a job at a high academic institution 561 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: like a Stanford, because it's very similar to the challenges 562 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: that he faced at Northwestern. You talk about that one 563 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: ten and one on one record, people would say that 564 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 5: that's an average record. 565 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 6: If we're basing it on that, we give. 566 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 5: Him a bit of a curve because it's Northwestern and 567 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: people talk about the rigid academic standards and those things, 568 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: and how you know, they were the little train that could, 569 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 5: and he found a way to have a lot of 570 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 5: success in spurts at Northwestern. 571 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 6: So a Stanford would fit some of those. 572 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: Other schools with high academics standards would qualify. But yeah, 573 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: he's gonna have an opportunity just because there are too 574 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 5: many big jobs that are open and you want an 575 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: experienced guy that knows how to get it done and 576 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 5: who's done it before. 577 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 6: And he does have a track record being able to 578 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: do that. 579 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: You know, he sued the school for one hundred and 580 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: thirty million dollars. He said, he can't talk about what's 581 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: going on with the case and the settlement, but I 582 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: gotta believe it's gonna be a pretty big payday for 583 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: him because he was humiliated and embarrassed, and certainly he 584 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: came away and he took a good manner because he 585 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: was a class guy who was above the fray because 586 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: he was fired days after he was suspended. He was 587 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: suspended for two weeks by the school. And I thought 588 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: it was kind of really like a rush to judgment 589 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 2: and it was really nothing going on. They had a 590 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: story in the school paper, They got a story about, 591 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, in the Chicago Press, saying that there was 592 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: hazing in the program, but a being but a bang. 593 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: He was fired. He was gone, and that was the 594 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: end of it. I mean, there was no case, There 595 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: was nothing going on. It was like really quick, I 596 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: get out of here. And he said he took full 597 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: responsibility for what happened despite not having any knowledge, because 598 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: that's what the leader does. He said, we had a 599 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: zero tolerance policy for hazing within the program, is what 600 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Fitzgerald said. And I educated the guys, We used our 601 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: resources within the athletic department, within the university. And look, 602 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 2: he said, there was an investigation revealed the inappropriate behavior 603 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: by players and that was ready to be sure was implicated, 604 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: were held accountable for not living up to the standards 605 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: in the program. So there may have been hazing in 606 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: the program. Obviously, maybe he didn't know about it. 607 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: But the point that the matter is that you can't 608 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: have that And have you seen it so close? 609 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 5: Well no, I'd like so about seeing it up close. 610 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: I have not seen that stuff. I told you, I've 611 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 5: seen Hayes and whatever. But like the sexual implications, those 612 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 5: things that have been there, like that, that part is 613 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 5: really touching. And so when you read that as aspective 614 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: parent of a student athlete who wants to go to 615 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 5: Northwestern and play football, Yeah, that would be jarring. That 616 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 5: would be something that would stand out, That would be 617 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 5: something that put in the cast Northwestern in a negative light. 618 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: I can see why they wanted to separate themselves from 619 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: that while being investigated, and also to move on from 620 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 5: Pat Fitzgerald. 621 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 6: Whether he knowingly knew that stuff was going. 622 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: On or not, it's still as the CEO and the leader, 623 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: it still falls under your watch. 624 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: And I understand both sides of it. 625 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: He said, hey, I didn't know that this was going on, 626 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 5: but also understand the university being. 627 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 6: Like, hey, we have the same face. 628 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: I can't allow the coach who was on the staff, 629 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: the leader of the staff where these things have been confirmed, 630 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 5: if they've been confirm, earned to continue to exist because 631 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 5: now you're worried about the welfare of your student athletes. 632 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: So it's possible for both sides to be right in 633 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: the decision making process and they can both go on 634 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 5: their respective ways. 635 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: I've never seen hazing, but I've heard horror stories where 636 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: they'll take a player and tie them up against the 637 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: goalposts and throw balls at him. I mean, you know 638 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I mean stuff like that. I don't 639 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: it's humiliating. I'm not going to say it's not that bad. 640 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: I think it's bad because you just shouldn't do stuff 641 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: like that, But it happens, and I'm sure it still happens, 642 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: and it may happen more so on the high school 643 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: level than on the college level, A because it's not 644 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: as publicized as the college game, and B there aren't 645 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: as many people supervising the program on the high school 646 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: level as the college game. Colleges have like you know, 647 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: ten twelve assistant coaches, graduate assistants, whoever it may be. 648 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: High school you may get a head coach and maybe 649 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: two volunteer assistants of that, so you don't know what 650 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: really is going on, right. 651 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, But I will say this, how does hazing make 652 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: you a better player and a better team? How do 653 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 5: all those things that we're alleging that we're talking about, 654 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: How does that make you a better team? Like how 655 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 5: does time somebody to the gold post, showering down with 656 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 5: baby powder, putting ice on theirs? 657 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: Like how can how does that make it? How does 658 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 6: that make your team better? Like? None of this stuff? 659 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 5: Bill's team camaraderie, I mean honestly, like it's we just 660 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: do it because it's always been done and we can 661 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 5: Like that's to me, I think that is ridiculous. 662 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 6: I think it's always been ridiculous. 663 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: Even some of the rituals and writer passages that have 664 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: existed in pro sports or whatever, like the Rookie Dinner 665 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: Day where everyone runs up a fifteen thousand dollars tab 666 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 5: and the rookies have to pay for it. To me, 667 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: that's stupid because you're asking you're asking the people with 668 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: the least to do the most. So with Northwestern and 669 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: some of these other colleges in those things like man, 670 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 5: I just think if you're an institution of higher education, 671 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: you don't want that to exist because we're not doing 672 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: that with professors. We're not doing that without a level students. 673 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: We shouldn't be I mean, you should want an environment 674 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 5: where everyone can flourish. And so yeah, like Pat Fitzgerald 675 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 5: has been exonerated in terms of knowing those things, but 676 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: if those things did happen within that program, I can 677 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: see it being problematic for the academic officials, the athletic 678 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 5: officials at Northwestern continue on with that kind of leadership. 679 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: I heard you say about the baby pad of what 680 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: else do you know about hazing NY of the hazing 681 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: activities that you. 682 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 6: Could I mean, I don't have anything, but like that's you. 683 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: You basically said that stuff about whatever, like tying people 684 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: to the goal post. We've seen that on Hard Knocks 685 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 5: and all that people dunk that we've heard about like 686 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: people putting being gay in jockstraps, loading people's cars with popcorn, 687 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: a bunch of silly stuff that. I will say this, 688 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: I don't believe it takes you wants to up closer 689 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: to winning or being a good team. But because it's 690 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: always existed, people continue to do it. 691 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: Now would you consider hazing? 692 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: Like when I watch Hard Knocks and I have the 693 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: rookies come up there and start singing the Rookie Show 694 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: with things like that, is that hazing? 695 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 696 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: But that like so okay, so let's talk about that. 697 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 5: Like that's different, Right, That's different because all right, man, stand. 698 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 6: Up there, I'm a fool yourself. 699 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, hold your peanuts, sing your fight song, tell me 700 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 5: what your side of bonuses or whatever three minutes. That's 701 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: different than what some of these hazing things have been 702 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: a ledge like with uh, the sexual assault stuff, with 703 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 5: some of the other things, dark rooms and getting punched 704 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 5: and belted like that is crazy. That is Banana's to 705 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 5: be And I don't know how anybody on a team 706 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 5: that really cares about their teammate could want to participate 707 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 5: in that kind of stuff. 708 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm there, Okay. 709 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: So patas Show is exonerated, he feels like a new 710 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: man and he's gonna be coaching against and know that 711 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: about that, I'm really surprised that Luke Fickle got the Okay, 712 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: he's going to come back to Wisconsin. And by the way, 713 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: Wisconsin winsy yesterday they beat Washington thirteen ten, and honestly, 714 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this. They stormed the field. They stormed 715 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: the field in Wisconsin A three and sixteen, one and 716 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: five and the big ten and they steam the storm 717 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: the field and look, they're not going to go to 718 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: a ballgame for sure this year Wisconsin the first time, 719 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: for the first time this nineteen ninety one and nineteen 720 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: ninety two. 721 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: What happened to a once proud program. 722 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: Here's a guy, Luke Fickle, who was dominating at the 723 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati couldn't get it done at Wisconsin. And 724 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure he had every means to be successful at Wisconsin. 725 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: They got the money, they got the alums, they got 726 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: the tradition, they got everything, they got the culture. What 727 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: did he do wrong in Wisconsin, and how surprised are 728 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: you that he's coming back? 729 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 6: And that's because by was expensive for Wisconsin. 730 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 5: I think the biggest misstep that Luke filkel made he 731 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 5: got away from the blueprint that's been very successful for 732 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 5: Wisconsin football since Barry Alvarez resurrected the program. Wisconsin has 733 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: always been a physical team that lean into the running game. 734 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: They did it with local bigs and then they got 735 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 5: their skill guys from places like Jersey or Florida or whatever, 736 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: and it's all worked. But it was a run heavy program. 737 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: They had a weather proof team because of the way 738 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 5: they played. It didn't matter what the conditions were like 739 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: at Madison. Otherwise, they always. 740 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 6: Could lean into who they wanted to be. 741 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: Luke Filkuld come from Cincinnati surprisingly decided that he wanted 742 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: to have a team that could throw it around the yard. 743 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: He brought in an offensive coordinator that put in an 744 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 5: air raid system. And when you think about air raid 745 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: with the kind of players that you traditionally gonna have 746 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 5: at Wisconsin, you're already. 747 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 6: Flying into the win. And it just didn't work. 748 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 5: It didn't work, it hasn't worked, it doesn't look good 749 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 5: or whatever. They won yesterday, adhere to a philosophy that 750 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 5: has worked well for them. They ran the football. Quarterback 751 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: play was not a big of an issue because they 752 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: just need to take care of the ball, and they 753 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 5: found a way to win with their run game in defense. 754 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 5: That is how you've always won in Wisconsin. That's the 755 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 5: way Everez done it. That's the way that Britt Bilmer 756 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: did it. That's the way that anyone who's going to 757 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 5: be successful in Wisconsin has to do it. It just 758 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 5: took Luke Fickle, for whatever reason, a long time to 759 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 5: figure out how you need to play at that place. 760 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad he's coming back. Noe doubt about that. 761 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: And I'm glad you're here as well, because you have 762 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: a Bookie Brooks on Andy Furman. We a Fox Football 763 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: Sunday and Foxbuts Radio. We life from the Fox Sports 764 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: Radio studios. And of course he's the answer man and 765 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: he's ready. What does that mean? Ask Bucky, you. 766 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio? 767 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: All right, Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Freman. 768 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Of course we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 769 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: It's about twelve minutes before the top of the hour, 770 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: and that means one thing on one thing only. 771 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: It's time for asked bucket. 772 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, and our guy Brandon Deutsch is gonna 773 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: lead us off today. 774 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: But are you ready? 775 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 11: Yeahucky? 776 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: Something going? 777 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, Bucky? 778 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 12: I was gonna ask you because there's been a lot 779 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 12: of discourse on acts about who's the QB one in 780 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 12: this draft class. You're obviously an NFL draft evaluator, a 781 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 12: guy who follows these prospects. 782 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 11: Who's your QB one right now? 783 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 6: Man? I don't know. 784 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 5: I know if I needed a quarterback in next year's draft, 785 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: I don't know who I would go to because they 786 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 5: all have been up or down. I just saw Garrett 787 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 5: Nessmayer get bitched, So how can I make him a 788 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 5: number one overall pick? I mean, everybody is bad. I 789 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 5: think right now people are talking about Mendoza, Todd Simpson, 790 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 5: Dante Moore. But I'll tell you, like, they may go 791 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 5: first overall, but I don't see any of those guys 792 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: as game changers at the next level. 793 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: You got another one go so obviously kind of stump 794 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Bucky on that one. 795 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: But you came out of the gate pretty well there. 796 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 6: Take it easy on my namily so I was like, 797 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 6: I don't know if I was No. 798 00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 11: No, I'll ask one more. 799 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 12: What about this twenty twenty seven class that people keep 800 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 12: talking about Jeremiah Smith, cam Coleman or do you think 801 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 12: the Jets like that playing into effect why they got 802 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 12: all these picks? 803 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, I think not only that. 804 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: Right, Let's just put the arch Manning factor there, whether 805 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: he turns out to be what people want him to 806 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: be or not. 807 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 6: When you're the. 808 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 5: Jets and you have five first round picks, you've given 809 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 5: yourself the ability to move up and down the board 810 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 5: to take advantage of twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. 811 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 6: Twenty twenty seven is. 812 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 5: Loaded because Jeremiah Smith, all those White House come up 813 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: at the same time, and they're also pass rushers. 814 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 6: It could be what we call an epic. 815 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 5: Draft in twenty twenty seven with a number of blue 816 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 5: Chair prospects that are going to be in that draft. 817 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: All right, Bucky, I'm not the smallest brand. This will 818 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: be a lot easier questions right now. Okay, here we go. 819 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't like to get at the politics. Okay, again, 820 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm not that smart, but I got to ask you 821 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 2: this question. President Donald Trump, wants to wash the commanders toname. 822 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: They planned three point seven million, three point seven billion 823 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: dollars stadium after him. What's your take on that Donald 824 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: Trump stadium. 825 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 5: I think when people are given honors, you shouldn't have 826 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 5: to campaign and self promote to get those. If you've 827 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 5: done things that are noteworthy enough where people want to 828 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 5: bestow your name on something, it's because of your merits 829 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 5: and the things that you've done. 830 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 6: I just don't like it because I'm not into Ay. 831 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 5: You should name your stadium after me. To me, that 832 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 5: is crazy that someone would openly campaign they have their 833 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 5: name on the stadium. I don't like it for that reason. 834 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 5: I think if your accomplishments are worthy enough, they should 835 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: speak for themselves, and if people feel compelled to honor 836 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 5: you by putting your name. 837 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 6: On something, it's because of that. 838 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 5: So I don't like this because it certainly doesn't play 839 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 5: into a meritocracy. 840 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 3: It's crazy, all right. 841 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: Alex Sofetchkin scored his nine hundredth career goal the other night. 842 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: What is a bigger feat in sports? 843 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: Sof Echkin's nine hundredth goal or a pitcher winning three 844 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: hundred career games? 845 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 5: Well, I would say now, I pitch you winning three 846 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 5: hundred games because they don't their pitchers complete games and 847 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 5: everything is by committee. 848 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 6: So I would say that is a bigger feat. 849 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: The other thing that I put in that also comes 850 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: from Baseball three thousand hits, just because it speaks to 851 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 5: your consistency and your longevity as an a level player. 852 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: You know, speaking about that as an aside. Have you 853 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 2: been watching the A Rod feature on HBO A Rod 854 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: or a Rod or a Rod or Alex whatever it 855 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: may be. 856 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: It's pretty interesting. 857 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 5: I've seen some clips. Yeah, I've seen some clips from it. 858 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 5: He's an interesting player. I was in Seattle when he 859 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 5: was up there, and is heyed with King Griffy Jr. 860 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 6: Or whatever? Like. 861 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: Look, there are people that are on the love hate 862 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 5: train when it comes in. But I think it's undeniable 863 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 5: in terms of what he was as a player without 864 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: the steroids, right, and. 865 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: What he accomplished his numbers even after missing an entire season. 866 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, all right, it's believe it or not. It's 867 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: midterm time in the NFL. I can't believe it. But 868 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Bucky biggest prizes team wise thus for midterms, and I'm 869 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: gonna give you some examples, maybe the Colts to Broncos, 870 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, or even the Bears. 871 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: Biggest surprise to you, team wise. 872 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 5: Team was just the Colts. The Indi Andaupis coats have 873 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 5: been able to do it. And I didn't think that 874 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones would be a savior. But what he's given 875 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 5: them is the stability that they've always wanted at the position, 876 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 5: and he's allowed their weapons to play. Jonathan Terry is 877 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: playing at a great level, leads the league in rushing. 878 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 5: They have a young collection of pass catchers that are 879 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 5: able to get it done. Yet the Indianapis coach, I 880 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: did not see this team being a heavyweight in the AFC. 881 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 5: And if they continue to kind of finish it off 882 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 5: with Sauce Gardener coming over, there're gonna be a team 883 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 5: that we talk about potentially being an AFC Championship game. 884 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 885 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: And finally, during Monday Night Football last week, Peyton Manning 886 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: asked Charles Barkley if it was true that Barcley burned 887 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: all of his underwear and a fire two decades ago 888 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: and he's been going without drawers ever since going commandough, 889 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: can you explain this please? 890 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 5: How would I be able to explain Charles Barkley walking 891 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 5: around commando. Maybe he likes the feel of the swingy 892 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 5: things between those legs. I don't know, but I would 893 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: hang it down, Yeah I would. Yeah, I would be good. 894 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 5: I'd be good on that. 895 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: I love Charles Barkley, But now every time I see 896 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: him on TV, I look at him in a different way. 897 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, how many people are waiting for him to 898 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 2: stand up during the show? 899 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 6: You know? 900 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Charles, really, did you have to 901 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: go public with this? It's something I really didn't have 902 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: to know. I didn't want to know that. 903 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 6: I really, Yeah, that's a lot. 904 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 3: You are you a Charles Barkley commando guy? Too? But 905 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 3: just just. 906 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 6: Asking him, I am not. I am not. Nope, all right, do. 907 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: We have time for one more? Could we do one more? 908 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 8: Oh? 909 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: I guess we do? 910 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 10: Not? 911 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: We do not? 912 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna continue. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. 913 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: It's Bucky's midterm grades and so much more rare right 914 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: here on Fox Football Sunday next And in just about 915 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: a minute, go on to everybody, this is Fox Football Sunday. 916 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman, and we're broadcasting live 917 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. In a way you go, Bucky, 918 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: I got a question for you before we go to 919 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: the phones. We've got a caller and Dayton a WHI 920 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: own Dayton nine eighty Dayton. But here's my question, and 921 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: maybe on way off based on this. Terry mclaurin's having 922 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: a problem injury wise with the Washington Commanders, Trey Hendrickson's 923 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: having problems with injuries on the Cincinnati Bengals. Both of 924 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 2: those guys will hold out. Is it possible. Is there 925 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: a correlation between football players who are holding out and 926 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: then have a time to go to camp and practice 927 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 2: and they come back and they get injured. 928 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: Is that a correlation or is it just a coincidence. 929 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: I need to know the answer from you. 930 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 6: I think there's definitely a correlation between those things. 931 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 5: When you're away and not able to practice and practice 932 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 5: with the team, you can't simulate it on your own, 933 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: no matter what we talk about, no matter what we 934 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 5: think about being able to work out on our own, 935 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 5: The intensity, the urgency, all of those things you can't 936 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 5: match because it's competitive. When you're in a team environment, 937 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 5: you also don't have all of the things that the 938 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: team has available to make sure that you rest and 939 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 5: recover and get back to your best self quickly. So 940 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 5: for all those guys, mc lauren uh with Hendrickson, some 941 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 5: of those things could be one offs. But yeah, I 942 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 5: think on the surface, you certainly have to look at 943 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 5: the correlation between guys that hold out, guys that are away, 944 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 5: and then guys that continue to participate in camp and 945 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 5: see what the injuries are like. 946 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That's all I needed to know 947 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: coming from you. That's You're the gospel to me. You're 948 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: the gospel. All right, here's the gospel of sports callers. Okay, 949 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: his name is Dick. Dick from Dayton, Ohio. Listening on 950 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 2: WHIO nine eighty am and Dayton Dick, how are you? 951 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: Dick from Dayton? Say a lot of Bucky Brooks. 952 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: Say Bucky, how are you? Andy? It's a pleasure. How 953 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 4: you been, buddy? 954 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: The pleasure is all yours. 955 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 4: I just wanted to say, Andy, I am so worried 956 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 4: about the Bengals. I've never seen the defense play so bad, 957 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 4: and it was just it was humiliating last week, and 958 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm thinking coach of the defense has to go because 959 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 4: they can't do that. We lost Joe Burrow and I'm 960 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: just I'm just parceled by their defense. 961 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: Andy this year, Bucket, get him off the ledge, will 962 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: you please? I mean, it's just it's not the coach. 963 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 2: The coach, Al Golden's not gonna go. 964 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 3: After one year? Am I right about that? You're not 965 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: gonna get rid of Al Golden? No? 966 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean the coach can't do so much as to players. 967 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 5: I think they got rid of the coach last year and 968 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 5: the same players are making the same mistakes and not 969 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 5: performing well. Uh, the defense has been the biggest issue 970 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 5: and Zach Taylor ultimately is responsible for that. You know, 971 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 5: Mike Brown has not committed enough money and resources to 972 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 5: that side of the ball, and. 973 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 6: They just haven't been good enough. Yeah, so it's a 974 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: wasted year. 975 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 5: It's a wasted year not only Joe Burrow being sidelined, 976 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 5: but Jamaar J T. 977 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 6: Higgins playing well. You can't get that back. 978 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 5: So they're just a team that's not well constructed from 979 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 5: top to bottom. 980 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 6: And they got to fix the defense. 981 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 5: Like with everything, veterans and young players, it can't just 982 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 5: be a wrapped and develop defense. 983 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 6: You got to ask some veterans that can get it done. 984 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: Jackie. Okay, do you feel a little better now with 985 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 3: Bucky's answer? Yes, a little bit, all right, and who knows, 986 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: maybe they could put a little streak together that I 987 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: got Pittsburgh next week in Pittsburgh and that division still 988 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: to some extent is wide opening. 989 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: Litt Lamar Jackson's back with Baltimore. Have a great day, 990 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 2: God bless you always great hearing from you. Okay, let's 991 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: get into this now. Let's get into the midterms, because 992 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's midterm time in the NFL and you, 993 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: mister Bucky Brooks, are grading midterms at least for the 994 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 2: MVP on foxsports dot Com. What is your grading system? 995 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: How did you do it? 996 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: Because I was amazed that you were able to put 997 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 3: that together. 998 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 6: I mean, look for mid terms, what you do? 999 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 5: You're looking at the guys who are playing surprisingly well 1000 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 5: and their contributions have been largely the reason why their 1001 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 5: teams are playing well. And so when you think about 1002 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 5: some of the names that are on this list, it's 1003 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 5: about those guys who aren't the name brands, not the 1004 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 5: usual suspects, but the guys that have come out of 1005 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 5: nowhere to get their team on the precipice of doing 1006 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 5: some great things this year. 1007 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're talking about the midterm MVP. There's no 1008 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: doubt in my mind. As soon as I saw the 1009 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: headline of the Fox Sports dot Com piece that you 1010 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: put together, I knew it was going to be a 1011 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: quarterback list. Basically, the MVP trophy normally is a quarterback, 1012 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: and you had a quarterback, your guy for North Carolina 1013 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: playing outstanding this year for the New England Patriots, Drake May. 1014 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 2: What is separated Drake May this year from years past? 1015 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: What put him up there was he he was someone, 1016 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, a dark horse contender. 1017 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 5: Well as darker's continue because coming off his rookie season, 1018 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 5: which was a complete mess, Drameo and the Patriots were 1019 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 5: terrible last year. You had Mike Rabel coming in, you 1020 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 5: have Josh McDaniels, who's done one, who's. 1021 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,240 Speaker 6: With quarterbacks before. 1022 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 5: You have a team that better fits what Drake May 1023 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 5: does in terms of the veterans on the perimeter, Stephan Diggs. Namely, 1024 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 5: they're just a better overall team. And then he's played terrific. 1025 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been outstanding completion percent and is passer rating, 1026 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 5: the efficiency, the accuracy, the explosiveness that the offense has 1027 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 5: with him at quarterback, and just the overall improvement of 1028 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 5: his swag, his swagger, his confidence, the way that he 1029 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 5: is dominating. 1030 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, he deserves it because I can't think. 1031 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 5: Of anyone who has done more to kind of change 1032 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 5: the brand than what Drake May has done to resurrect 1033 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 5: the Patriots this season. 1034 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: Resurrect himself. 1035 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got one hundred and sixteen point nine 1036 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: pass already, You're right, a seventy four point one completion percentage. 1037 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: This guy right now could very well. But with in 1038 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 2: the line of not only an MVP, maybe comeback. Would 1039 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 2: he be a comeback Player of the Year? 1040 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 3: Can he do that? 1041 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I think he can't be a comeback player. 1042 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 5: If this was the NBA, he could be most improved, 1043 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 5: but mostly Yeah, No, he's improved by leafs and bounds. 1044 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been terrific all that. Like, I'm excited 1045 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 5: for him. One, he's a guitar hero. Two, having been 1046 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 5: around his dad for a long time when I was 1047 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 5: an undergrad who was a quarterback at Carolina right before 1048 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 5: I got there, couldn't be more excited about a good kid, 1049 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 5: just a really good dude. 1050 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 3: Now, was he at North Carolina when nil was in progress? 1051 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 3: Was he gonna? Yes, that was what he was Year Carolina. 1052 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, he turned down big money to stay at 1053 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 5: North Carolina. Now I didn't go to way that guitar 1054 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 5: he was wanted because I think it was an eight 1055 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 5: and five season, But I mean he was, he was. 1056 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 5: He was a big git, A big git to keep 1057 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 5: him around the program. 1058 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Now here's my question. And you 1059 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: got him his number one midterm MVP number two. 1060 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 3: You got a running back. 1061 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: And before I mentioned the name, I'm listing to promos 1062 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports ready the other day and my 1063 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: buddy Rob Parker, who's in the Hall of Fame right now, 1064 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: Rob Parker's and they named the field after him in 1065 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 2: Central Connecticut State. The Rob Parker Press spots on the 1066 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: field there, Rob Parker says that if you vote for 1067 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: this guy, it would be like voting for Ross Parot 1068 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 2: when Ross Parot was running. All right, So you had 1069 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, right, I heard that, So you know it's 1070 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 2: true Jonathan Taylor number two. 1071 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: And I think Jonathan Taylor is in the running fan VP. 1072 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't know why Rob. 1073 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: Would say that he's really taken Indianapolis to some extent 1074 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 2: on his back, at least for the running game right now. 1075 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: Really and truly, I mean he would I think he's 1076 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: on part of get two thousand yards this year. I mean, honestly, 1077 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: he's on wonders for the offense in Indianapolis. 1078 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 3: Why would he say that you got him be number two? 1079 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 3: Is it possible? 1080 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 6: MVP? 1081 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 5: Well, he must just hate running backs, because I don't 1082 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 5: know why we said that about Jonathan Taylor. The reason 1083 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 5: I have Jonathan Taylor the is you just we talked 1084 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 5: about the surprise, the bigg surprise being the Indianapolis coast, 1085 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 5: and everyone to point to Daniel Jones. But when you 1086 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 5: dig deeper, you know is Jonathan Taylor that is really 1087 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 5: the strawest Thursday drink. He's averaging right under one hundred 1088 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 5: yards per game ninety nine plus. He's been able to 1089 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 5: do explosive plays, delivering the grinded out plays that they 1090 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 5: need to finish games. 1091 00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 6: He has been everything that they've wanted. 1092 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 5: And if you're looking for someone that has been a 1093 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 5: catalyst for change, Jonathan Taylor's been the biggest catalyst for 1094 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 5: change there. Daniel Jones deserves a nod I mentioned and 1095 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 5: we get to that, but yeah, this is Jonathan Taylor 1096 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 5: who has really kind of stabilized their offense. And I 1097 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 5: don't hit the offense, but he's allowed the offense to 1098 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 5: control the game so that the defense also is out 1099 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 5: of harm's way. 1100 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 2: Okay, would it be fair to say that Jonathan Taylor 1101 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: is doing for the Coast this year what Saquon did 1102 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 2: for the Eagles last. 1103 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 6: Year in a different way. 1104 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 5: Yes, not as flashy or not as glamorous, but yes, 1105 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 5: he's been able to stabilize it and allows the quarterback 1106 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 5: to operate as a manager. Now, I'm not taking anything 1107 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 5: away from Jalen Hursts like we were talking about last year, 1108 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 5: but yeah, like Sakwuon Barkley was the one that you 1109 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 5: walked into the game saying, we need to make sure 1110 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 5: that we hold him down, the same can be said 1111 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 5: of Jonathan Taylor. We got to contain him. And if 1112 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones beasts will let him beat us and early 1113 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 5: in the year and Taylor's beating him regardless of what 1114 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 5: kind of attention they've been placing on him. 1115 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: Okay, And speaking of the Eagles for the number three 1116 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: pick as the MVP midterm you got the Eagles quarterback 1117 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurst, who I got to believe does not get 1118 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 2: the respect or notoriety he deserves, and I don't understand why. 1119 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 2: I mean, there's some great players on that Eagles team 1120 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: to know doubt about that, and I think that they'll 1121 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: say that Jalen Hurst is successful because of that big, 1122 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: brute offensive line that he has to work with, and 1123 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 2: that's true, but I think that Jalen Hurst does not 1124 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 2: get the recognition I think he deserves. 1125 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 5: No, he doesn't, but the one thing that matters in 1126 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 5: this league are wins, and if your team wins and 1127 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 5: wins a lot, the quarterback is always going to get 1128 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 5: some recognition for that. Jalen Hurts has not put up 1129 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 5: the I would say, the most impressive of the Guardian 1130 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 5: stat line, but man, when you see it, it speaks 1131 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,919 Speaker 5: to why the Eagles are winning. He's so efficient only 1132 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 5: one turnover, one turnover eight nine games, only one turnover 1133 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 5: from him. 1134 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 6: You think about. 1135 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 5: Twenty touchdowns that he's been able to put up, like 1136 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 5: he has been really effective operating in the system that 1137 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 5: they're asking him to operate in and when you're playing 1138 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 5: from in front like they offering to do all you're 1139 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 5: trying to do is is like being Tiger. 1140 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 6: Woods on Sunday. We put on the red shirt. We 1141 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 6: got a three stroke lead. 1142 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 5: All they gotta do is keep it in the fairway, 1143 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 5: like hitting in the fairway, chip and put. 1144 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 6: We gonna win. 1145 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: And that's what the Eagles have been able to do. 1146 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 5: They're out front, there's nothing flashy about it. They can 1147 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 5: play conservatively and win. So they're winning games, and he 1148 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 5: deserves credit for making sure that they get to the 1149 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 5: winner circle. 1150 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of the Eagles, I'm looking at the NFL schedule, 1151 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: and we haven't really touched on the games today because 1152 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, I'd rather talk about storylines than the games itself. 1153 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: But tomorrow night might be the best game of the weekend. 1154 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 2: The Eagles are playing got Green Bay Eagles six or 1155 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 2: two Packers five, two and one. And what makes that 1156 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 2: game so great is the fact that I believe it 1157 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: was the Packers and the Packers coaching staff that really. 1158 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 6: Were oh yeah, big. 1159 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: Time movers against the touch put. So I think that's 1160 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see what the Eagles do tomorrow night. 1161 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: Do you agree on that? 1162 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 6: You know what they should do. 1163 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 5: They shouldrun a push on the first four plays it again, 1164 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 5: right right, they should push, just push it up and 1165 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 5: down the field on the package. That's that's the petty 1166 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 5: and me that would come out. I would I would 1167 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 5: be on board with that. 1168 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: And I could see Necessariani doing something like that, and 1169 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: that's just the way he is, right. 1170 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 5: I can see that because I think it's and look, 1171 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 5: I thought I felt like it was a terrible employ 1172 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 5: by the Packers to try and legislate the toush push 1173 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 5: out the game get better. 1174 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 6: You can't stop it. Find a way to stop it. 1175 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 6: Get better. 1176 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 3: It is what it is. Let it goes part of 1177 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 3: the games. 1178 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 2: And and they give you the forty excuse that they 1179 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 2: wanted to eliminate it because if injuries come on. Really, 1180 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I see some of those tackles that are 1181 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 2: being done this year in the National Football League that 1182 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 2: aren't called that's worse than the toush push. 1183 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 3: Really. 1184 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm only gonna do three, but I want to 1185 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 2: do the Uh, this guy I think you have ranked 1186 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 2: number five because this guy's are thrown and you say 1187 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: this guy could win the MVP, the Defensive Player of 1188 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: the Year and also the Comeback Player of the Year. 1189 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson the defensive end for the Detroit Lions. I 1190 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: just love this guy. He's at every play, gives one 1191 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty percent every player. I love watching him play. 1192 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 2: Old school kind of football player. 1193 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, old school throwback. I mean coming back off the aco, 1194 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 5: you didn't know what he's gonna be like. And he 1195 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 5: has been even better than when he left. Seven sacks, 1196 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 5: four force fumbles or from recovery energizer Bunney off the edge, 1197 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 5: and he's doing it without like a real solid dude on. 1198 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 6: The other side. 1199 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 5: To take away some of that attention that speaks volumes 1200 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 5: to who he is and how he gets Now, he 1201 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 5: is a terrific player. He is someone that dominates the 1202 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 5: game and you feel his presence, which I believe you 1203 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 5: should feel the MVP when they insert themselves into the game. 1204 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 6: You feel his president. That's why he has to be 1205 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 6: in that conversation. 1206 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're gonna get into some fun stuff because 1207 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 3: this is the stuff that you know makes the NFL 1208 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 3: and separates the NFL from the rest of the because 1209 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, we follow as fans every movement of every 1210 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,240 Speaker 3: player in the National Football League. It's like a soap opera. 1211 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: You don't see that in baseball, really and you don't 1212 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: see it in the NBA, you really don't. But in football, 1213 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: whatever happens to a guy on the field, off the field, 1214 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 2: his social life, it's wonderful. It really just keeps them 1215 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: in the news every single day. I've talked about Romeo 1216 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 2: and Duze, the wide receiver for the Bears. He had 1217 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: to answer some questions the other day wide receiver. He 1218 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 2: said just the other day that his. 1219 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 3: Father's get his father's posts on social media are his prerogative, 1220 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 3: but they don't obviously speak for him. And he was 1221 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 3: a first round pick. He's coming off. 1222 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 2: He was in Cincinnati last week coming over his first 1223 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 2: NFL game without a catch. 1224 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 3: In that game, although. 1225 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 2: The Bears won, They's scored forty seven points, beating the 1226 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 2: Bengals forty seven forty two, and that list second went 1227 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 2: over the Bengals unbelievable list Sunday. He was targeted three 1228 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 2: times in the game. Let's hear from mister rome Ondoza 1229 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 2: on what he had to say about his daddy's social 1230 00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: media posts. 1231 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1232 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 3: No, I don't make a big deal out of it. 1233 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 6: You know, obviously he has his opinions. 1234 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 3: I have mine, and he's like he needs to voice 1235 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 3: those things on social media. 1236 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 6: But you know that's that's that's his prerogative, but he 1237 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 6: needs to himself. I speaking for myself. 1238 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 3: Have I talked to him? 1239 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 12: Yes? 1240 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 6: Have you guys discussed it? Yeah, we talked about it. 1241 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: What do you say, I'll keep that practice. 1242 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 3: Oh, you know this is the stuff that you hear 1243 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 3: with Little League parents. You don't hear it in the 1244 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 3: nights to football. 1245 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: Now have you heard this throughout your career or even 1246 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 2: now that some parents are getting involved with their kids' 1247 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: actions on the field. 1248 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 3: That this is crazy to me? 1249 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 6: Really, I don't know why it's crazy. It happens all 1250 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 6: the time. 1251 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 5: Like you think if they're involved in meddling and literally 1252 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 5: and then they continue to meddle in high school, they 1253 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 5: likely meddling in college. You think the meddling is going 1254 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 5: to stop when they get to the pros? Then the 1255 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 5: parents and magic you want to turn on the turn 1256 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 5: on the a I'm a good sports parent, switch and 1257 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 5: sit by the sideline and let their kids kind of operate. 1258 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 6: No, they can't do it. 1259 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 5: And every team has a parent or a handful of 1260 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 5: parents that wants to wait in and they believe that 1261 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 5: they know what's best for the team and the player 1262 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 5: and what you always have to recognize. And someone told 1263 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 5: me this a long time ago when I just got 1264 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 5: into coaching, that the overwhelming majority of pearents want little 1265 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 5: Johnny to be All League rather than for your team 1266 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 5: to be. 1267 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 6: A championship team. 1268 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 5: Every parent looked at the game from a selfish standpoint 1269 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 5: in terms of how does this impact my kid rather 1270 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 5: than how does it impact the team and does it 1271 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 5: bring us closer to having success that we want to have. 1272 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 5: So I'm not surprised that Romandunza's dad is vocal and 1273 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 5: all that on social platforms. I am surprised that it 1274 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 5: didn't take long for Roma Dunza to check his dad 1275 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 5: and tell them, Hey, man, you're messing up the bag. 1276 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 5: The more you talk, the more it impacts me. You're 1277 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 5: messing up the bad. 1278 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 6: So pipe down and just own it and let me 1279 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 6: handle my part of it. 1280 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: Piped out, Pops getting your checks. I'm sending you a 1281 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: check every week. Just pipe down, take it easy now. 1282 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: After I went to Cincinnati last week, James Dunjay, his dad, 1283 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 2: posted a message on social media that asked, get this 1284 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 2: whether the Bears would quote trade his son to a 1285 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: team that will actually throw to him, and another post 1286 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 2: have declared that they receive a quote should be seeing 1287 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: at least ten targets per game. Oh my goodness, I 1288 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,439 Speaker 2: mean that's embarrassing. I mean, and I'm sure the guys 1289 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: in the locker say, hey, hey, Rom, I mean, has 1290 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 2: Daddy gonna write again to the team about you? Did 1291 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 2: they do that in a little bit little teasing there 1292 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: in the locker room? 1293 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1294 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 5: Look, man, he may get joked on a little bit. 1295 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 5: Depends on how sensitive he is to take in those jokes. 1296 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 5: But yeah, someone's gonna at least fire off one to 1297 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 5: see how it lands, and then they determinative. Anybody else 1298 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 5: says anything, but what everyone has to understand. Everyone connected 1299 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 5: to you who speaks out the team looks at you 1300 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 5: because they said. 1301 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 6: They had to come from somewhere. 1302 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 5: So that's why he's having to stand there and answer 1303 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 5: those questions, Hey, are you happy? Do you feel some 1304 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 5: kind of way? What do we need to address? Let's 1305 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 5: address it right now. That's probably why Rome is annoyed 1306 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 5: because it's changed his standing in the locker room, in 1307 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 5: the meeting rooms. He's having to deal with more noise. 1308 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 5: I'm having to now ask questions about stuff that you posted. 1309 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 5: That's not of my opinion, that's your opinion, but I 1310 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 5: have to answer it. So his dad also has to 1311 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 5: understand who he represents, the brand of Roma Dunze, and 1312 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 5: you keep messing up the brand. We got to move 1313 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 5: on from you. And I'm sure that was the conversation 1314 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 5: that Roma Dunes they had with his dad. 1315 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, what you said, it basically comes to pass because 1316 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 2: you said that parents right now and you learned this 1317 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 2: in coaching, they're more concerned with their kids' success and 1318 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: the team's success. And obviously it's proof positive right here 1319 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 2: with James his dad posting that message. He doesn't care 1320 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: that the Bears is somewhat turning it around this year 1321 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 2: and having a great offer. And by the way, his 1322 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 2: son leads to Bears and targets and receiving yards and 1323 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: receiving touchdowns, and he's tied with his fellow team and 1324 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 2: I think he's tied with with thirty one receptions on 1325 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 2: the team right now. 1326 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about that. 1327 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 2: But the thing is he's having a heck of a 1328 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 2: year and the Beer's somewhat seeing some light. Finally they're 1329 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: turning it around. Well, Ben Johnson. So I mean again, 1330 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: his dad could care less about that. I mean he 1331 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: wants to see his son do more. I don't get it. 1332 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 2: You're right now. 1333 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 3: If he's doing it in the Little league and he's 1334 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 3: doing it in college, why wouldn't they do it in 1335 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 3: the pros? 1336 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 6: Because they don't know better? And just listen to that. 1337 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 5: You talk about a guy who is leading the team 1338 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 5: and targets receptions. 1339 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 6: And all the stuff. 1340 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 5: Right, he's the leader, but it's never enough for those 1341 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 5: kind of parents, like no matter what it is, it 1342 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 5: would be another. 1343 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,959 Speaker 6: Complaint and you can't satisfy them. 1344 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 5: The best thing that you can do if you're a 1345 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 5: coach is, man, if you have a kid like Roma 1346 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 5: Doonsday who understands the team process and is willing to 1347 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 5: tell his that, hey man, you got to back off, 1348 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 5: like you're messing this up. That's the perfect case. The 1349 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 5: worst case is the kid who actually believes in the 1350 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 5: app you can see of the parent and has a 1351 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 5: sense of entitlement because the parent. 1352 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 6: Always kind of bullies his way to get the results 1353 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 6: that he wants. 1354 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 5: Kudos to Roma Doomsday, I would say thumbs down to 1355 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 5: the dad because the dads. 1356 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 6: To support his kids and stay quiet and then. 1357 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 5: TBD to the bears because this ain't going nowhere. It'll 1358 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 5: be quiet temporarily, but as soon as it goes awry, 1359 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 5: all those things are gonna come back up again. 1360 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Now you're you're a parent and your kids are athletes? 1361 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: Have you done anything similar to this? Just quick? 1362 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 6: No, not like that. Now. 1363 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 5: I've always tried to stay out the way, and probably 1364 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 5: to a fault, stay out the way, let them try 1365 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 5: and figure it out. Only insert myself when I just 1366 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 5: need to know what's going on, But not like that. 1367 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 5: I stay out of the game when it comes to 1368 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 5: that in most parents. But I would think that if 1369 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 5: you're going to a game advocate, but. 1370 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: If you're going through a game to watch your kids play, 1371 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: that coach is somewhat intimidated knowing that you're there, They're 1372 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 2: gonna they know who you are am I correct? 1373 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 5: I mean I would like to think that you have 1374 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 5: enough confidence in your coaching that you're not worried about 1375 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 5: my opinion. In my sway, I literally try and stay 1376 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 5: out the way. I think parents should be there to 1377 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 5: support their kids. You shift for your kids and the 1378 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 5: team and leave all the other stuff alone alone. Now, 1379 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 5: We're at a time where every parent, every dad in particular, 1380 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 5: has an opinion on whatever sport it is, how the 1381 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 5: team should be playing, how they should be using their kid. 1382 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 6: And all that, and that's going to be a part 1383 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 6: of it. 1384 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 5: But I would tell you this in terms of coaching 1385 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 5: kids and looking at that, all that does when they 1386 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 5: hear the parents yelling, all it does is create. 1387 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 6: More anxiety for the kids. 1388 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 5: So your sons and daughters take on that energy that 1389 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 5: you put out. So when you put all that energy 1390 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 5: and vibe out there, it unsettles them. It makes them 1391 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 5: feel like man, they're walking to the high wire, the 1392 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 5: type rope. Yeah, it does something to them. So you're 1393 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 5: really doing your kid a disservice when you are so 1394 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 5: vocal and demonstras as some of these games, no doubt 1395 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 5: about that. 1396 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Now, be sure to subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio 1397 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and 1398 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 2: you'll see our best videos from all of our shows. 1399 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And don't stop there. 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You'll find today's show Fox 1444 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Football Sunday posted right after we get off the air. Now, 1445 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 2: let's get into this Arizona the Arizona Cardinals. They're at 1446 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 2: the Seahawks today and let's talk about what's happening in 1447 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: that game today, because the Cardinals are three and five, 1448 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 2: the Seahawks are six and two, and honestly, it doesn't 1449 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 2: look good for either one of those teams. Well, the 1450 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,959 Speaker 2: Seahawks aren't too bad, but right now, let's see what's 1451 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 2: happening here. Last week, I believe the Cardinals are once 1452 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 2: again not going with Carla Murray with the foot spring. 1453 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 2: Last week they upset the Cowboys and Jacoby Brissett was 1454 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 2: the quarterback. He threw for something like two hundred and 1455 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 2: sixty yards or two touchdowns plus a round four touchdowns. 1456 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 2: So the question of the day is what does the 1457 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: future look like for Carla Murray? Is you're going to 1458 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 2: play again? I've got some stats here for you, Buck, 1459 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 2: just to kind of things make things a little even. 1460 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: The Cardinals have gone one and two with Jacoby Brissett 1461 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,959 Speaker 2: averaging like twenty five points a game and three hundred 1462 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 2: and fifty plus the odds of game Caler Murray, they 1463 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: were two and three, eighteen points a game, about two 1464 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety odds a game. Now, are they gonna 1465 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 2: sign him? Re sign them? 1466 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 6: Trading? 1467 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 3: What's the story with Kyler Murray. 1468 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 5: Look, I think what they're trying to do is wait 1469 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 5: and see. They try to see if they can get 1470 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 5: like a little spark where Jacoby Brissett in there. And 1471 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 5: if Jacoby Brissette plays well, let's say, plays well for 1472 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 5: the next two or three games, well, then you continue 1473 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 5: to roll along with him and it becomes. 1474 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 6: A bigger story. 1475 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 5: However, if there's a bad game from Jacoby Brissett, then 1476 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 5: you'll see Calabm Murray go in. I think what they're 1477 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 5: trying to do is just find a way to win 1478 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 5: games and they'll deal with the contract when they have 1479 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 5: to deal with the contract, which is next offseason. But 1480 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 5: I would say that this is the first step in 1481 01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 5: them starting the separation from calam Murray and he could 1482 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 5: result in. 1483 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 6: The report in a divorce by the end of the season. 1484 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Okay, from an outsider like myself looking at this, to me, 1485 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 2: it looks like it's like a tryout. I mean, this 1486 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 2: is the regular season. You're playing for the marbles right now, 1487 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: and now you've got like tryouts. So in other words, 1488 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 2: if Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray may play next week. If 1489 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 2: Jacobe Prissett throws three picks today, that's what you're saying. 1490 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 5: Yes, go one week to another, Yeah, one week to another, 1491 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 5: like they want to see, like a it was good, 1492 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 5: Let's see if he can continue, and then if he continues, 1493 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 5: then it becomes a bigger deal. 1494 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 3: Crazy. 1495 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: What's the story with Kyler Murray? He's had some incidents 1496 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 2: in Arizona. When he got there, he was like in 1497 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 2: his own little room. I don't get it. I mean, 1498 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 2: is he that good of a quarterback? Was he overrated? 1499 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 2: Can he play? I mean we've seen quarterbacks like Danny 1500 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Dimes go from New York where they wanted to boot 1501 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: him out of town and now he could be the 1502 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 2: comeback player of the year for. 1503 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts. 1504 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,959 Speaker 2: So certain times gonna be a new environment, new coaching staff, 1505 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: new team, could get the best out of you. 1506 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 3: But is that the case of Kylin Murray or he's 1507 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 3: just not gonna get it done. 1508 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 6: I mean, that could be the case. 1509 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 5: I would say the thing about Kyler, having known him 1510 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 5: personally since he was sixteen seventeen, there's some people that 1511 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 5: would tell you in the state of Texas he was 1512 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 5: the greatest high school player to ever put on the pads. 1513 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 6: And so when you have that build up you have. 1514 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 5: That reputation, Sometimes it's gonna be hard for you to 1515 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 5: change your ways when you had a lot of success 1516 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 5: doing it your way. Has success at Oklahoma because he 1517 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 5: goes to Arizona, has success office a rookie year. 1518 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 6: So he's had a lot of success doing it his way. 1519 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 5: And then people will say he may come off hisself 1520 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 5: as he may not necessarily be the right team guy 1521 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 5: and team fit in those things, and that's what's really 1522 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 5: problematic in a team sport. But it's gonna be hard 1523 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 5: for him to change given the success that he's had. 1524 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 5: Maybe going somewhere else with this being recognized as a 1525 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 5: failure will help him change his ways. 1526 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 6: But I don't know. 1527 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 5: Man, he's quiet, he's super confident. Sometimes when you're quiet 1528 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 5: and confident or quiet and kacky, it can come off 1529 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 5: being arrogant and aloof So I will say the biggest 1530 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 5: thing is just working on his overall connectivity with the 1531 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 5: team and then letting his leadership show not only through 1532 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 5: his actions but through his words. 1533 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,959 Speaker 6: But for that to work, the team. 1534 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 5: Has to feel like you really care about them, and 1535 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 5: without being in the building, I don't know how that 1536 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 5: care factor is received from players and coaches as relates 1537 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 5: to Calamary and his feelings towards them. 1538 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you says quiet. I think one of the characteristics 1539 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 2: of a quarterback is being a leader and not being quiet. 1540 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 2: So I think that's a detriment to him if he's quiet, 1541 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 2: and you know him better than anybody, I would think, 1542 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 2: except his coaches. 1543 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 3: Right now. 1544 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'd rather get a guy who's 1545 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 2: a leader, who's vocal and maybe does not have the 1546 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 2: arm strength. There's another quarterback, but I'd rather have the 1547 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 2: guy who's vocal and a leader. 1548 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna say this because we've treated all these 1549 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,560 Speaker 5: quarterbacks like their John Wayne, like every quarterback is the 1550 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 5: leader of the team. 1551 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 6: Every quarterback is the hero that comes in riding on 1552 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 6: the white horse and comes saved today. That's not really hot. 1553 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 6: It works. 1554 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 5: Players respect your talent and they respect your authenticity. If 1555 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 5: you're not a guy that is vocal, then you shouldn't 1556 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 5: be vocal. You have to lead and inspire with your 1557 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 5: actions and those things. Whoever you are, that's who you 1558 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 5: need to be. 1559 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 6: And so whether you're a. 1560 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 5: Vocal guy that loves to say the emotional pep talks, 1561 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 5: whether you're a guy that is quiet, but you just 1562 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 5: like to ball out and go about your business. There's 1563 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 5: a path to victory for both guys, but you have 1564 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 5: to be your authentic self. The big thing would be, 1565 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 5: is Klin Murray being authentic? Do his teammates feel like 1566 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 5: he's being authentic to them? Do they feel like he 1567 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 5: has a sense of care about the team and game 1568 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 5: and those things? Only Kyler knows how he's handled those 1569 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 5: situations with the team. But what happen when you open 1570 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 5: up a quarterback competition at this late stage of the 1571 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 5: season and where calibery is in his career, It creates 1572 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 5: more of the conversations about what is he missing or 1573 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 5: what is he potentially lacking than oh, let's celebrate at 1574 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 5: QB one, no. 1575 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,560 Speaker 3: Doubt about that. 1576 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,360 Speaker 2: And if I'm a fan, if I'm a season ticket 1577 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 2: holder in Arizona and say, wait a minute, don't be 1578 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 2: having tryouts on my time? I mean, this is the 1579 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 2: regular season, during the season. This should have been done 1580 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 2: in camp or whatever it may be. 1581 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 3: But you know why now, especially on my time when 1582 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 3: this is the regular season, It's just it's. 1583 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,560 Speaker 2: Not I mean, I don't see any other team doing that. 1584 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 2: I really don't, not even the Cleveland Browns. They're not 1585 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 2: doing that. 1586 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 6: You know. 1587 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 2: Obviously the Bengals that they got a backup because Joe 1588 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 2: Burrow was hurt. And speaking of the backup, I mean 1589 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco's the backup. He's forty one years of age. 1590 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Would you, if you're the Cincinnati Bengals re signed Joe 1591 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 2: Flacco as a backup for next year as well, becoming 1592 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 2: forty two? 1593 01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 3: Would you do that? Think you could be a good teach, 1594 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 3: an advisor maybe for Joe Burrow. 1595 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,839 Speaker 6: Joe Burden, he's an advisor. 1596 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 5: After accomplishing all these needs, someone to a Joe Flacco, 1597 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 5: come tell me how to help me continue to be 1598 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 5: great when you never I get that. 1599 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that. 1600 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 5: Yes, if he wants to continue to play, I would 1601 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 5: sign him right away. 1602 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 6: Uh. He's been good for them, He's been good for 1603 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 6: their team. They push you down the field. 1604 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 5: His playing style suits what they want to do offenously 1605 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 5: at one hundred percent, would uh say, continue to rock 1606 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 5: with Joe Flacco as the backup? 1607 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I mentioned this coming into this segment, that it's 1608 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 2: a disease affecting sports right now. If you think Kylin 1609 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Murray's got problems, what about the NT Double A investigations 1610 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 2: that the betting violations continue, and the NC Double A 1611 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 2: has banned another six men's basketball players at three different 1612 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 2: universities for manipulating their performance. This is disgusting. We've seen 1613 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 2: it in baseball. We've seen it now in the NBA 1614 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 2: and now NC DOUBLEA basketball. We're talking gamble of the 1615 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 2: ANTAA bands, three more schools. What is happening? Why is 1616 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: it happening? And I think my answer to that question 1617 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 2: would be, it's all around us. You could gamble so 1618 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 2: easily on your phone, and if you're watching TV, every 1619 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 2: other commercial on TV is a gambling commercial. And honestly, 1620 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 2: I listen to sports talk radio. You know, eighty ninety 1621 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 2: percent of the shows give you lines on games and 1622 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 2: betting on games. 1623 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 3: Is it healthy? 1624 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 6: Is it good? 1625 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 3: Or maybe that's what the public wants. I don't know. 1626 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 2: We don't do that obviously. I respect the fact that 1627 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 2: you work for an NFL team, so you can't do that. 1628 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you're not a gambler anyway, and I'm not. 1629 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 2: I'm not a gambler. I'd rather talk about the game 1630 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 2: itself rather than talking about you know who to put 1631 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 2: my money on? Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm an outcast. 1632 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1633 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 5: Look, I think it's hardy put the blame on anybody. 1634 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 5: I would say this accessibility is everything. Gays are sossed 1635 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 5: able to access. Betting now is different. It used to 1636 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,560 Speaker 5: be taboo like all the way you used to have 1637 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 5: to Hey, I gotta find them booky, He find a booky. 1638 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 6: Who do I call? Tak? Who I call? 1639 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 3: Like? 1640 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 6: Never never Land like? It was very much like those 1641 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 6: old mob movies. 1642 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 5: Now everything is right there on your phone, and it's 1643 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 5: easy for the young people to blur the line between 1644 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 5: daily fantasy, regular fantasy, and betting. 1645 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,759 Speaker 6: It's all right there. Some of these guys are. 1646 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,679 Speaker 5: Into deep and you can tell they cooked up schemes 1647 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 5: to try and get themselves out of trouble. Other guys 1648 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 5: maybe just super competitive or shissy when it comes to 1649 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,719 Speaker 5: trying to figure out how to make money on the side. 1650 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 6: Regardless, it's wrong and the. 1651 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 5: Compromise didn't take you to the game, which is why 1652 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 5: the NCAA has to come down hard on these guys. 1653 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 3: And it's amazing. 1654 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 2: This comes on the heels of several weeks ago the 1655 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 2: nc double A was considering permitting NCUBA athletes to wager 1656 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,680 Speaker 2: on pro games, not college games, but pro games. I mean, 1657 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,759 Speaker 2: I just don't think betting is healthy for an athlete 1658 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 2: because it puts the game in a cloudy situation. I'm 1659 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: watching a college basketball game. I see a guy miss 1660 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 2: a layup and say, oh, is he undertake? He may 1661 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 2: have missed a layup? Did he do it intentionally? 1662 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 8: I don't know. 1663 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 2: I mean this the game has to have some credibility, right, 1664 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 2: that has to and I think with the betting situation 1665 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 2: puts a certain cloud over the game. 1666 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1667 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 5: Look, it puts a cloud over the game, and it 1668 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 5: does make everything subject to question. 1669 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 6: Hopefully we can figure it out. But look, I don't 1670 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 6: like it. 1671 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 5: But when you made a deal with the devil, the 1672 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 5: betting companies, this is part of what happens. 1673 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you there. I mean, what's gonna happen? I mean, 1674 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 3: will they will they ban it? 1675 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 2: It's never gonna stop because they're receiving so much cash 1676 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 2: from these betting institutions and betting companies. It's not gonna 1677 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. I mean, it can only get worse. 1678 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: I don't know how coaches could control it, can they? 1679 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Where they just tell a coach the kid. They tell 1680 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 2: the kids, just don't bet. How do you monitor it? 1681 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 3: You just can't write now, you can't. 1682 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 5: Just got to keep continue to advise them and tell them, hey, man, 1683 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 5: make good decisions, protect the team. If you protect the team, 1684 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 5: you make good decisions and you keep everyone and out 1685 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:00,759 Speaker 5: of trouble. 1686 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 3: There you go, all right, let's not get in trouble. 1687 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 3: Right now, he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. His time. 1688 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 2: It is time to pass the buck. It's time to 1689 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 2: point the finger. The blame game is. Don't listen the 1690 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio all right here we go to the 1691 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 2: blame game. Right around the corner. He is Bucky Brooks, 1692 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Firman. This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox 1693 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 2: Sports Ready and you know what. We're lying from the 1694 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Fox Bots radio studios. But top of the hour, which 1695 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,639 Speaker 2: is about eleven minutes from now, there'll be eight am 1696 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 2: on the East coast. 1697 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 3: You have. 1698 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon and Greg Cosel. So keep it right here 1699 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports radi. But right now it's time for 1700 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 2: the blame game. 1701 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 3: You ruin me. 1702 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. Is all 1703 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: your fault. 1704 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,719 Speaker 8: Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar. 1705 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: That's why there's the blame game, the game. Let's figure 1706 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: out to blame. 1707 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Yes, Brandon Derte, it's all your fault, Brandy, what heck 1708 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 3: of a job today. It's on you. Now, let's get 1709 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 3: the playing game rolling. 1710 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 11: Well, I appreciate it, Andy. I'm going to start with this. 1711 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 12: I know I've asked a few development questions in terms 1712 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 12: of the NFL draft. So Anthony Richardson goes third overall. 1713 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,719 Speaker 12: A few years ago, people are talking about Leonora's Sellers 1714 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 12: going high this year despite doing nothing. 1715 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 11: Who do we blame here? 1716 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:26,719 Speaker 12: Do we blame quarterback development in the NFL scouting? Trying 1717 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 12: to draft guys ten games? I mean, when they've started 1718 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 12: ten games in college, who is to blame with the 1719 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 12: evaluation of the quarterback position? 1720 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 11: And how do they get Anthony Richardson so wrong school 1721 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 11: with buckets? 1722 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? Everyone and everyone. Everyone's to blame the draft knicks 1723 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 6: that begin the conversation. 1724 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 5: The TV, Like, despite what people say, the TV has 1725 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 5: influence on what people talk about in rooms, the meeting 1726 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 5: rooms and trying to create a franchise quarterback because there 1727 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 5: is such need to have someone at the impactful position, 1728 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 5: and then the development is just different. High school, college 1729 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,479 Speaker 5: and pro games are all different. Pro coaches have to 1730 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 5: be these college players where they're at, as some unwilling 1731 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 5: to do so. So everyone is involved in terms of 1732 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 5: the mis evaluation of these quarterbacks that we've seen them late. 1733 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say this. 1734 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 2: I think the term development is the wrong word to use, 1735 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 2: is the pool word, because there is no development. 1736 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 3: You get drafted and they're three right to the wolves. 1737 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,599 Speaker 2: In years past, a quarterback who was drafted will stay 1738 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 2: in the sidelines with the clipboard, learn the system, learn 1739 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 2: the game, and then they put them in. 1740 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 3: But there's so much pressure. 1741 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Now and the money given to this guy, they put 1742 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 2: them right in there to play. The only team that 1743 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 2: kind of does it the right way. I think that 1744 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. They draft quarterbacks, they put them 1745 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 2: on the sideline for. 1746 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 3: A year or two. 1747 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 2: They did that with Jordan Love, and look at Jordan 1748 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 2: Love right now, he's developed bucket. I may be wrong 1749 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 2: on that, but I think that's the way to do it. 1750 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,639 Speaker 2: The pressure to play these guys immediately lacks the developmental time. 1751 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 11: All righty. 1752 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 12: So the next one I wanted to ask is similar 1753 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,679 Speaker 12: Trevor law Lwrrence obviously has had up and down career 1754 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 12: so far, but was heralded as the next Andrew Luck. 1755 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 11: Who's to blame for I wouldn't say. 1756 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 12: His lackluster quarterback play because he's been fine since you know, 1757 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 12: Urban Meyer left, will take that that season out of 1758 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 12: the books. But who's to blame for the lack of production, 1759 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 12: this elite production that was expected of them? 1760 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, you kind of hit it on 1761 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 2: the head there because I think it was Urban Maya. 1762 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 2: But how many offensive coordinators has he had? How many 1763 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 2: systems has he worked on? I think it's crazy. Making 1764 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 2: the jump from college to the NFL is a big 1765 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 2: jump in itself, but the fact that they have so 1766 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 2: many coordinators in so many seasons, he's had four of them, 1767 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 2: So I think that's difficult. 1768 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 3: But you're right, I think he's coming into his own 1769 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 3: this year. 1770 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 6: Ah yeah, I mean I think it's a little bit. 1771 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 5: Look, I feel like he was overhyped coming in and 1772 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 5: I don't think he could ever live up to those expectations. 1773 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 5: I would say that he's underperformed in some areas where 1774 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 5: you expect a number one overall pick to be able 1775 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 5: to make some of these things, and then it's about 1776 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 5: just trying to find the right coach to bring out 1777 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 5: the best at him. They've went through a few different 1778 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 5: iterations of coaching staffs to try and get it out 1779 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,080 Speaker 5: of him. But now I think they've settled in on 1780 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 5: a coach, Liam Cohen, who's going to do the best 1781 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 5: to get him out of them, and then the results 1782 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 5: are ultimately going to be on Trevor. 1783 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 6: He's grown in certain areas, but he still has a 1784 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 6: long way to go to be the player that everyone 1785 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 6: wants him to be. 1786 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 12: And lastly, six NCAA schools have been recently busted for 1787 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 12: basketball gaming. 1788 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 11: What do who do you blame? 1789 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 6: I mean, this is everybody like it's too close, like 1790 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 6: they made it too easy. It's on your phone, you 1791 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 6: can get to it. 1792 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 5: Fantasy football, fantasy sports blurs the line when it comes 1793 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 5: to gambling, so everyone is. 1794 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 6: To blame in this. 1795 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,680 Speaker 5: I just think it's hard to get young people to 1796 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 5: resist the temptation making a few little bucks on the sidehouse. 1797 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 2: You know, INITIALO is going to play nil, but that's 1798 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 2: not true because there was gambling in college basketball back 1799 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:53,679 Speaker 2: in the fifties. 1800 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 3: I mean New York City basically. 1801 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 2: Basketball was killed back in the fifties, Long Island University, 1802 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 2: the City College of New York, Manhattan College. They were 1803 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 2: gone really because of gambling back then. If you look 1804 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 2: at history and follow history, at least in college basketball circles, 1805 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:13,560 Speaker 2: almost every ten years there's a basketball gambling fraud or 1806 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,640 Speaker 2: episode in college basketball. 1807 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 3: But now it's bigger than ever. And obviously with social 1808 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,800 Speaker 3: media and the way you can gamble, it's quite easy. 1809 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 3: So it's here to stay. It's here to stay. Yes, 1810 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 3: anything else. 1811 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 11: I would think that's it. 1812 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 3: Really well, no, you know what, really well? We could. 1813 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 3: We asked Brandon a question, what do you think of 1814 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 3: us today? First time with us? You're a rookie. Incredible 1815 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 3: spending time you like spending time with us? 1816 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 12: Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. Filling in for Brio. 1817 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 12: I hope she's doing well, and you know she'll be 1818 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 12: back next week. 1819 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 3: And oh she will. 1820 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, she'll be back. 1821 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 3: Next week, So ruin my week? Huh, that's okay, it's okay. 1822 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 11: She's a Saints fan. She's gone through enough. 1823 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: Right now, there we go, Bucky, have a great week. Brandon, 1824 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 2: thank you for your help. It's always okay. Mike Harmen 1825 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: and Great Cosa the next right here,