WEBVTT - Legally Brunette: Diddy Trial - Week 2 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.560 Hi, everyone, Welcome to another episode of Legally Brunette. I'll 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.520 be your host, Emily Simpson with my co host Jane 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.080 and today we have a special guest. If you're a 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.760 real Housewife fan, you will know Dolores. I don't even 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:15.880 need to say the last name. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.079 Thank you. Hi. How's it going. I'm so excited to 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.280 be with you. I have not been away with you 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.680 in a long time. I was talking last night and 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.160 I said, our last time we were together together was 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.320 Andy's baby shower. Yeah, and then, you know, briefly at 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:33.880 Bravo Con. But that's just great. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.040 You don't have time to socialize a Bravo con. It's 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.120 in passing, right, Hi, It's good to see you. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.839 It's three days of running it is. Are we excited 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.000 for this year? Yeah? You know. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.080 I mean it's a lot of work, but I enjoy it. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.440 And you know, I'll tell you I enjoy it. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:48.280 Maybe you agree with me. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.680 A lot of times when you film Housewives, the only 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.760 feedback you get is from social media. And we talked 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.120 about this yesterday. And when you get feedback from social media, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.000 let's be honest, ninety five percent of it is negative. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.080 I know, right, But you know, it's really social media 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.440 is a very small drop in the bucket. It is. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.600 It is so when I first started, I remember Noah 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.240 saying that to me. I forget what the issue was 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.800 with social media at the time. Yeah, and any of 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.880 you who don't know Noah, we know him. He's the 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.720 big boss, he's a big shot. So I remember him saying, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:26.240 it's just a really small portion of the people that 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.360 watch the show, because everyone that watches it. Of course, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.360 my mother watches the show, she's not comment right, well 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.160 now she is. Yeah, yeah, But I think that was 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.640 the point of bravocon for me, is that a lot 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.800 of times the only feedback you get is on social media, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.040 right right, So you're saying everybody, and it's so nice 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.160 to just have so many fans that are like, I 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.480 love the show, I love you, how's your mother in law? 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.880 How's Annabel doing? And you're like, oh, people do watch 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.320 it and just enjoy it and then go to bed. Yeah, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.520 I know, it's nice to see. That's nice. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.360 It's nice to get a lot of positive feedback. So 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.760 I really Bravo con So, all right, anyway, let's go 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.400 into We're going to start with a little update on 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.400 Lively and Baldoni. I thought this was really interesting because, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.120 as we talked about last time we did an update, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.560 Taylor Swift was subpoenaed in this case, wanted to now 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.679 a part of this who absolutely wanted nothing to do 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.040 on I heard that. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.760 They weren't even friends anymore because she was dragged into it. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.239 Yes, I believe you know, of course it's just the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:24.920 rumor mill, but I've read a lot of articles that 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.960 allude to the same that they're not even speaking, they're 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:31.280 not friends anymore. So recently, Baldoni's attorney, whose name is 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.000 Brian Friedman, he filed I thought this was interesting. He 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.880 filed an affidavit, and affidavit is his own account of 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.400 something that happened, and it was sworn under penalty of perjury, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.800 and he basically I read it, and he basically said 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.640 that someone from Taylor Swift's camp called him. He spoke 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.560 to them for about an hour. He wouldn't disclose who 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.560 it was in this Affidavid, and basically they gave him 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.000 information that Blake Lively's attorney had reached out to Taylor 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.440 Swift's attorney and basically said, you need to post something 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.640 on social media and support of Blake Lively. If you don't, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.400 we're going to release ten years worth of text messages 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:06.280 between the two of you. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.040 So this is what he put it in a highdamon 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.920 and I did not hear that, yes, and so he 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:12.960 filed it with the court. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.600 Then he was pretty much reprimanded by the judge who 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.520 basically said, we're going to remove that from the filing. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.959 That's nothing more than like you filing something to get 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.000 click bait and to like, you know, create a contentious 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.880 relationship between these two high power people. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.120 Did did you hear about this? 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:31.320 Yeah? 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.400 And then after that those yes. So then but here's 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.120 my thing. Brian Freeman is a very high powered, intelligent attorney. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.440 I've said multiple times if I am ever sued, the 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.200 first person I'm calling is Brian free Yeah. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.280 Well that's a very no data statement to make, and 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.040 coming from you, who's an attorney, like no doubt about it. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.200 So you know there's no way that he's lying. He 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.000 clearly got a phone call, he was clearly told this information. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.640 I understand the judges trying to keep all this extra 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.720 gossip out of it, because. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:05.680 That's a big that's not extra gossip, that's actually a threat. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:07.600 It is it's a threat. It's a threat. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.400 And now we know that the subpoena has been withdrawn 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.360 from Taylor Swift, so now she is not compelled to testify. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.320 I don't think it has anything to do with that situation. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:18.960 I believe she should be. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.160 Does that mean withdrawn by Friedman, not dismissed by the right. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.960 It was withdrawn by Brian Friedman. So Baldoni's side withdrew 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.800 the subpoena. I think it's because they got what they wanted, right, yeah, exactly. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.760 Don't know whatever information they're looking for for the trial. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.320 Maybe they did get copies of text messages. Maybe she 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.880 did give over some information. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:38.520 Testify. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.000 I'm saying that maybe there was like a side deal, 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.800 which you know in court happens all the time. We'll 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.240 give you this, just leave me alone. I don't need 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.960 to be dragged into this, and quite frankly, having I 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.719 feel like having Taylor Swift there and don't you agree, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.680 would take the attention off of what's really going on. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.080 Oh absolutely, it's not gonna it's not gonna help either side. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.880 Right So, I think, in my opinion, I think Taylor 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.440 Swift provided whatever information they were looking for, or enough 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.840 information that they feel like they have what they need 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.080 and that's why the subpoena was dropped. So now we 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.480 know that she's not going to testify unless she's compelled 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:14.279 again at some point. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.400 Anyway, I doubt it. That's Lively in Baldoni. But that 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.680 was so good. I could be done now, I know. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.280 I mean that was so good. I know that was 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.880 a little present gaming. I know that was going on. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:26.720 I've been busy, right. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.920 Well, tell me, because we haven't talked about this, what 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.000 is your impression of Blake Lively? Because I went into 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.400 researching this case very neutral. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.479 I didn't have an opinion. What I can't you could 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.240 have cared less about it. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.440 I didn't even know really who justin Baldoni. Well, I 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.400 watched the movie. I didn't really care one way or 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:43.680 the other. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:44.440 I did. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.400 I read all of the filings multiple times. And my 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.159 takeaway was, and we've talked about this, and Blake Lively 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:51.240 is a horrible person. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.400 That was my takeaway. Well, a lot of people say that, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.200 you know, I've seen how she treats other people outside 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.800 of this. Yeah, and I'm a big person on I'll 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.200 judge you on how you treat people. And there was 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.880 one instance where they showed a she was in an 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.400 interview with a young girl, like a lot of people 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.640 look up to even us. You know, we're not a listers, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:19.400 but they they could you could really hurt saying No, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.880 I'm just saying, but we haven't, like we could hurt 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.240 somebody's feelings with being nasty to them. And this girl 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.479 goes congratulation on your bump, and she goes and congratulations 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.200 on yours, And you know what, who are you? You 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.520 made the girl feel bad? She was just trying to 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.000 make conversations, make conversation. That was enough for me. But 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.400 I never like liked her as an actress. You know, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.000 her affect. It looks like she's thinking before she talks. 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.800 I mean, that's just the way she talks. But it 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.480 was never overly impressed by her. And I mean, I'm 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.560 sure he's kicking himself in the ass because this was 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.599 his big time, on his big break, and I feel 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.120 very bad. You know he could even the day of 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.760 the premire, he had to be in the basement with 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.839 his family. He was into the basement. Yeah, it was 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.279 for like two hours while while this was going on. Yeah, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.919 you know what I think, do you want to know 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.280 what I think. Yeah, I want to know what you think. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.320 I think that she was like falling for him. She 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.520 was like texting him, you know, up in the middle 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.840 of the night, nursing and oh yeah. And I think 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.240 her husband got a wind of it. Yeah, And I 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.360 think that she had to put it on him, like 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.320 he's talking to me. And then I think Brian Reynolds 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.840 came on the set and closed all type fash You know. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.360 I think that's a reasonable conclusion because I've thought the 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.920 same thing. I thought maybe the relationship got like she 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.320 wanted more out of it, or she was attracted to him. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.559 And then we do know that Ryan Reynolds was showing 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.760 up on the set and watching the dailies, and you 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.560 could take it over there was chemistry between them, and 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.400 maybe he got upset about that. And the way she 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.920 shifted the blame was, well, he does this, he says 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.840 inappropriate things, and then Ryan Reynolds is like, well then 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:49.600 we have to pursue it. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.280 We have to sue him. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.360 You can't act like that. And now it's snowballed completely 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:53.680 out of it. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.760 I think, yeah, And you know, that's not just my opinion, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.520 that's been the opinion I've seen it. It just seems 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.680 like a famili your story. And I hate to draw 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.040 a conclusion to something I was not there. I don't 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.280 know anything about. None of her friends told me this. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.880 I don't know about it. But I'm just thinking, what 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.000 do you think that's a possibility here. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.680 I'm just saying that's a possible I don't know what 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.560 you're saying, this is a reasonable outcome. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.520 I feel like there was you know, and this is 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.840 I'm also drawing that conclusion to myself by things that 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.120 Jason Baldoni said, like I'm reading through the Yeah. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.880 And then even if it is accurate as you say, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.720 which it may very well be, it just shows that 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.760 Ryan was kind of inserting himself. I mean, they didn't 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.400 handle it well. If that was the case, if Ryan said, hey, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.920 what are you doing? Why are you talking to him late? 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.480 I mean, this is how they handle it. They go 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.000 and attack and sue, well. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.680 There's a campaign and there's egos involved. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.560 Yeah, And you know, that's what I'm saying, is a 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.719 terrible way to handle. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.880 It when a jealous man. You know, whenever there's a 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.439 we know, like passion involved, it's not rational, Like emotions 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.240 are not rational. So there was you know, whatever, care 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.800 I could go on to this whole thing, but I'll 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.600 stop there. That's just what I thought. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.439 All right, let's move on to the Diddy trial. We've 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.520 done other episodes on Diddy, so if you're listening to 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.240 this for the first time, you want to go back, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.920 I would suggest going back and listening to our previous episodes. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.240 So we were on Didty Trial of week two. Here's 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.520 one of the things I just wanted to start with 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.240 because I thought this was interesting. So doctor Don Hughes, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:37.040 who is a psychologist, testified for the prosecution, and she's 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.959 called a blind expert, and that means that she's testifying 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.839 on their behalf. However, she doesn't she doesn't really know 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.880 a lot experience with either. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.000 She's never had them as a patient. She's not involved 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.400 at all. She's an expert, she's an expert witness. She's 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.920 actually referred to as an expert of experts. She's also testified. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.520 And Johnny Depp's case, the Amber Heerd Johnny Depp, she 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.080 testified and R Kelly, so she's clearly well known as 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:09.800 an expert. Obviously, prosecution has her testifying because the defense 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.440 is going to say Cassie, who was in this ten 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.920 year relationship with Diddy, was there because she wanted to 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.400 be there her own will, her own will. She wasn't coerced, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.280 she wasn't manipulated. She was there of her own free will. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.680 She could have left at any time. She could have 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.160 broken up with him. I really don't see, I mean, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.520 but I'm saying that's what the defense is going to go, right, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.280 So she testified. I thought I was wondering what your 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.760 opinion is on that when someone comes in as an 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.280 expert and they don't know the parties, but they're just 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.000 testifying to the relationship like a trauma bond, and what 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:45.400 they seek her Who called. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.640 Her to testify? What party? 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.040 Prosecution? 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.400 So the prosecution is having her testify as to like 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.400 the state of Cassie's mind why she stayed with him 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.080 so long. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.839 Because they're going to try because the defense is going 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.719 to challenge that. Right, They're going to say she could 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.120 have left at any time, which don't. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:02.200 She didn't want to die. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.640 Challenge that all they want. I've been around domestic violence 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:11.120 my whole entire life, and I can tell you and 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.520 until this day, I work with with women of domestic 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.480 abuse and it's just it's not only in women. It 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.480 could be in relationships period. There's there's so much different. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.920 There's mental abuse, there's physical abuse. She had both. So yeah, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.679 I mean I can understand why the prosecution called her 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.800 in because a lot of people don't understand why she stayed. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.880 I understand why she stayed. I mean besides what we saw, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.640 but she even went back at times, Like I think 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.319 when they had the he had the meeting with was 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.400 it kid Cutty and she, they sit down, they make amends, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.199 and then at some point it's like a freakin movie. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.480 Diddy has her come in to stand behind him and 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.839 be like, well I'm here now, and like Kid Cutti 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.880 was like he goes. I was actually surprised that she 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.760 was there and went back. But I mean, there's so 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.480 many layers to this. You know, somebody of domestic violence 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.040 will justify what they're doing to her like she and 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.440 then you become like Stockholm syndrome and then you're afraid. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.120 I mean, in a typical domestic violence case, sometimes the 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.960 neighbors call the cops, right if, but in this case, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.600 the cops, he owns the cops, he owned, the judges, 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.320 he owned everybody, she watched people around her die. She 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.440 watched him bring guns to someone's house to unwrap their 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.760 Christmas presents and almost kill him, kid cutty right right, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.840 and blow up his car with a mousle the top cocktail. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.720 She watched all this right, and then in her mind 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.720 she was now a prisoner to him, because after being beaten, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.720 after being used as a sex slave, after being drugged 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.480 for so many years, she probably in her mindset, who's 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.280 gonna want me? Where am I going? So you're saying 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.040 it's a deterioration of any self worth? Is how he 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.480 there's no self worth? On a much lower case than this, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.920 this was an extreme case of domestic violence. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.120 I agree with everything you said. The way I saw it, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.960 although you might be very well correct, was simply there's 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.920 you know, if I stay, I get beat up, right, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.560 or I get abused, or I get mistreated. But if 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.199 I leave, it might be even worse. He might come 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.240 after me, right or like now you added the factor 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.480 of I'm not worth anything, Who's gonna want me? 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:22.320 Who's gonna want me? 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.240 Maybe the next guy will treat me just the same. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:25.959 And here, at least I have a roof over. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.720 My head that is a common trait and even somebody 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.000 who's even molested. It's been like a lot of times, 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.720 it's well why not, It's already been done to me, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.080 so why not be this way? 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:39.600 Or this is my life? 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.439 This is my life. I have no self worth it. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:49.320 It's a horrible deterioration of someone's like soul. Basically, basically, 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.400 he just slammed her soul on the ground. She was 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.000 an eighteen year old girl coming into this. She was 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.000 the one She was. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.160 Eighteen at the start of their relationship. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.600 Now, the issue in this case is not to mess violence, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.240 because we know that's happening. What the prosecution has to 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.760 has the burden of proving is RICO, which is racketeering 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.480 and also sex trafficking. So that's where the burdens really 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.520 going to lie on the prosecution side. We were talking 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.040 about this this morning, is in order to prove a 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.960 RICO case, you have to prove that there's a criminal enterprise. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.200 So that's what the prosecution is doing. That's why they're 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.320 bringing forward all these witnesses to have their sets. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.080 You know that are people at hotels, so that they 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:32.120 can testify to establish that Diddy had a criminal enterprise. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.040 In order to have these freak offs. It's not just 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.720 like he has weird sexual fantasy right now, on that 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.760 you can be weird, weird, you can you can have 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:44.240 whatever is. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:45.400 Not illegal to be weird. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.880 It's not illegal or to have a fetish right to 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.760 have weird. Well, in such state it is. But what 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:52.680 we have, what they have. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.800 To prove is that it's a criminal enterprise. So what 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.760 is your thought on that, on the criminal enterprise. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.120 Aspect of it. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:03.720 Well, I think that's a way to get further sentencing, right, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.920 and more charges against them, and then I think they 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.480 can seize a lot of the assets and the victims 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.320 can go after the whole criminal enterprise. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.960 So you is it a criminal enterprise if you have 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.000 assistants who are okay setting up these freak offs, and 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.400 they're putting the lighting up, and they're they're hiring the 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:20.400 sex workers. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.000 They're flying them out, they're organizing it, they're flying them out, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.880 they're paying them, who's cutting them the check they're putting 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:26.320 up in house? 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:32.360 It is Yeah, it's a business. But but does that 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.080 fall under criminals still? 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.760 Because well, I think I think in late terms, it's 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:44.480 the enterprise is furthering the criminal activity, right, Okay, so 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.600 you can't disguise it did. He can't sit up there 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.240 on his throne and say I didn't pay them, I 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.600 didn't make the phone call, I didn't fly him out here. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.480 They did. Well, they work for you. They're part of 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:01.000 your company, right, and and you benefited from the criminality 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.640 you were he was the bar Your hands are no 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:04.720 less dirty. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.320 Just like so in the mob, right, the boss gives. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.960 The orders, right, but doesn't touch anything. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.160 Right, But he doesn't touch anything. He's already a made guy. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.120 If he's the boss, he's already a made guy. Right. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.840 So now you have all his soldiers underneath him. Who 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.880 and here we talk about the Rico Act. That's what 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.960 actually brought down the mob. So when you're looking at 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.600 letters instead of numbers, people start to talk and people 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.080 start to roll on you, like if you're looking at 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.040 life instead of twenty five years or twenty years. Now, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.880 all of a sudden, it's a different story. So having 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.160 that in front of you, all of a sudden, they're like, well, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.960 I'm gonna die anyway in jail, so why don't I 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.040 just roll the dice and see if I could rat 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.840 him out or have him go for me? 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.600 Right, we'll see, all right. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.080 So also during testimony, I thought this was interesting because 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.360 you know, Cassie settled in a civil suit with Day Yes, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.760 so the number was never I know, she asked for 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.240 thirty million. So it was revealed during her testimony that 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.920 she actually received twenty million. That was her settlement and 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:03.720 her civil case. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.800 So during cross examination on her noss for Dinny, did 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.919 she have to pay taxes on that? I don't know. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.160 Does she have to pay taxes on tie? 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.560 I thought, what it's for If it's for injuries. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.920 No, I guess it would be for injuries, right, yeah, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:15.240 if it's. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.400 To make her whole, no, So attorneys for Dinny highlighted 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.159 the details of two financial settlements involving Cassie, seemingly in 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:26.120 an effort to challenge her credibility or suggest alternative motives 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.880 for her allegations. Cassie acknowledged receiving twenty million and her 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:34.320 civil settlement against Combs. One of his attorneys pointed out 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.680 that she canceled an upcoming tour soon soon after receiving 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.840 the settlement, implying a connection between the payout and her 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.760 career decisions. Cassie stated that no amount of money could 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.320 undo the trauma she experienced, adding that if she could 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.960 reverse the abuse, she would return the money. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.200 So no one's considering the trauma that she went through 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.359 as to why she might have canceled her tour. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.200 They're disclaiming that she might wanted a financial payout. Once 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.280 she got the twenty million, she wasn't interested in the 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.000 career anymore. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:05.760 Maybe twenty million doesn't go very far these days, especially 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.880 the lifestyle she was used to and and the therapy 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.520 and everything else. How you know this is good? This 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.960 will manifest itself. God forbid with her in another way, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.360 like she does not know what her life hasn't has 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:18.159 ahead of her. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.880 But I understand if she gets if she gets money 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.119 and then she quits the tour, I mean, she's a 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.280 lot of change the direction of her life. I mean, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:32.800 it's like she faked all this and got it, you know, right, I. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.600 Understand, But you also understand this is on cross examination. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.120 So this is the defense cross. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:42.040 Examining her and trying to make her look like they're 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.240 trying to make it like she just wanted to settlement. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.040 She got. It's normal that they would have done this, right, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.440 This isn't like groundbreaking that they're going to use. They're 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.840 going to pull out every stop exactly. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.920