1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York Bloomberg eleven, Brio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg Well Under, to San 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Francisco Bloomberg nine, to the country, US Exam General one 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Zappen 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot Com. This is taking stock. I'm Kathleen Hayes, 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: along with pim Fox. US treasury thirty year bonds sell 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: at a record low two point one seven percent. Germany's 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: benchmark tenure bund selling at a negative yield for the 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: first time ever. This as the Federal Reserve signals that 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: the US is growing modestly and traders scratch their heads 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: over where central banks around the world are going. Next, 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: we'll be speaking with Lindsay Piegza, chief economist at Stifle Nicholas, 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: about the Beige Book and about the Federal Reserve in 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the US economy. But right now, let's go to Charlie 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: pelevin the Bloomberg Boose Room for Bloomberg Business Flag and 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I think of pim Fox. Thank you, Kathleen Hayes. That 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: on smp R higher Naz tak Laura, and this update 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: is brought to you this Wednesday by sector spider e 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: T S. Why by a single stock when you can 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: invest in the entire sector of visits sector s P, 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: d R S dot Com or call one sector e 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: T F. Philip Hammond has been appointed the UK's Chancellor 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of the Exchequer, tasked with the job of protecting the 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: economy from the fall out of Brexit. A meeting you 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Theresa May's pledge to tackle quote burning injustice 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: in society. He must now decide how best to stimulate 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: the UK economy, which is already at risk of sliding 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: into recession, while quelling voters frustration following six years of 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: George Osborne's austarity driven policies. Federal Reserve out with its 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: paige Book report and it says the U s economy 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: expanded at a modest pay since mid May, amid slight 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: price pressures and some softening in consumer spending. The rally 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and US shares faltering today, equities fluctuating at all time 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: highs as crew plunges amid an unexpected rise in fuel stockpiles. 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Treasuries have halted a two day slide. Laura Rosener is 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: Senior economists of b MP poda ba. We're getting more 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: easing and more concern externally. It's just increasing demand for 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: assets that actually are yielding something positive and so that's 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: fueling demand for US Treasury securities and and driving them 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: much lower. So no, it's not really fundamentals which are 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: are driving US treasury yields. And right now with you 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: have gold up seven tenths of one percent, SMP five 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: hundred index unchanged, and now we'll look at the other 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: stories making news. Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg Newsroom. 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: I'm Eric Shatzker. Hillary Clinton is talking unity today while 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: on the road in Illinois, one day after Bernie Sanders 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: officially endorsed her. Clinton spoke at the Old State House 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: in Springfield. There is too much and hate in our country, 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: too little trust and common ground. An analysis by the 50 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: New York City Council finds that Donald Trump's proposals to 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: deport illegal immigrants and temporarily banned Muslims could hurt the 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: local economy. The council finds the plans could cost the 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: state more than eight hundred million dollars in the city 54 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: more than three forty thousand jobs. British Prime Minister David 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Cameron has left Downing Street for the last time as leader. 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Mr Cameron thanked his political supporters, his children, and offered 57 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: a special thank you to his wife, Samantha, you have 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: kept me vaguely saying and as well as being an 59 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: amazing wife, mother and businesswoman, you have done something every 60 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: week in that building behind me to celebrate the best 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: voluntary service in our country. You came home. Secretary Theresa 62 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: May has taken over from Cameron as the new Prime Minister. 63 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Cameron Sterling is calling on protesters to protest the right way, 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: protest in peace. He's the fifteen year old son of 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot and killed 66 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: by white police officers outside of convenience store in Baton Rouge, 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Louisiana last week. There are extensive subway delays across the city. 68 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Officials say of power outage at a rail control center 69 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: has caused major backups on the one, two, three, four, five, 70 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: and six lines. Global News twenty four hours a day, 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: powered by more than journalists and analysts in more than 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: one twenty countries. I'm Eric Shasker, this is Bloomberg, Charlie, 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and we thank you and again recapping a move higher 74 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: for the down Jones industrial average up by two tenths 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: of one percent, s and P up by less than 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: half a point. Little change there. Nazdek is down two 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pelican. That's a Bloomberg 78 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: business flash. He's taking stock the FED in Focus on 79 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. The FED in Focus reports from the twelve 80 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve districts indicate that economic activity continued to expand 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: at a modest pace across MO regions from mid May 82 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: through the end of June. Here to tell us more, 83 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Lindsay Pieza, chief economist at a Stifle Nicholas, joining us 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: from Chicago, and she can be followed on Twitter at 85 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Lindsay PA. All Right, Lindsay, so, tell us a little 86 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: bit about your reaction to the Beige Book. Well, it's 87 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: pretty much in line with expectations. The Beige Book has 88 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: consistently painted a much rosier picture of the US economy 89 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: than the data would otherwise suggest. Remember, at the start 90 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: of the year, with a very flow start out of 91 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the Gage, the Beige Book continued to emphasize that economic 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: activity expanded at a moderate pace, a very similar tone 93 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that we continue to hear in this morning's report. Well, actually, 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: what I really see in this Beige Book is the 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: word modest amid slight price pressures. To me, this is 96 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: a very very cautious view of how the economy is growing. 97 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem to me there's anything that suggests, oh 98 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, we're seeing a big spurt of growth here. Well, 99 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I think the idea is more stability, the economy continue 100 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: to grow to modest or moderate pace. What I'm really 101 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: looking for is an acknowledgement that the U S economy 102 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: is still on very fragile footing. Now, of course they 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: did mention that manufacturing activity was mixed, consumer spending showing 104 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: some signs of softening. But what's so interesting is that 105 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: they talked about the labor market remaining stable, and of course, 106 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: as we know, May employment virtually non existent, followed by 107 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: a very large uptick in June, the exact opposite of 108 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: what I would describe as stable. Lindsey, take away all 109 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the politics, takeaway Brexit, all of the extraneous events. If 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: you were just to read this Beige Book and then 111 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: add into that the release of the previous f O 112 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: m C minutes, can you tell me what your position 113 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: would be about raising interest rates, Well, I think right 114 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: now it's a matter of so so economic growth, and 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: it really depends where your bar of expectation falls. For me, 116 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking for strong, solid, robust growth in order for 117 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: the Fed to feel comfortable to give us that second 118 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: rate increase. But for many sitting at these low low 119 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: levels for years now, so so we're modest is good enough, 120 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: and some of the Fed will certainly push for a 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: second rate increase within the confines of It's hard to uh, 122 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, sort of all out at times, isn't it. 123 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: But I think we had a trivick story on the 124 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg today pointing out that, uh, in terms of the 125 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: odds of the December interest rate increase, they're back up 126 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: to which is almost where they were before the Briggsit vote. 127 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: It still doesn't indicate that people are betting on a 128 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: rate hike this year, at least not traders, because our 129 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: economists more and more, I think, once again, who are 130 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: seeing the December hike? Uh? Your your your view? Will 131 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: they hick at all this year? Lindsay? And is it 132 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: better if they do or they don't? I think at 133 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: this point the Fed is going to remain on the 134 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: sidelines through and most likely the better part of I 135 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: think right now it's very fragile out in the economy, 136 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: and I think the Fed really learned their lesson from 137 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: lifting off in December based on expectations of further improvement, 138 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: which we're still waiting for now six months later, and 139 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: so I think a good portion of the committee is 140 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: going to err on the side of caution, waiting for 141 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: realized improvement rather than expecting improvement down the line. It's 142 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: all us about your thoughts having to do with the 143 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Bank of England. Will they cut rates? I think there's 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: a need for additional stimulus. There's a significant amount of uncertainty, 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: there's a significant amount of volatility out in the marketplace, 146 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: and I think additional support from the Bank of England 147 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: will at the very least begin to calm some of those, uh, 148 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: those uncertainties in the marketplace. So I do expect another 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: rate cut, additional stimulus out in the marketplace. Okay, of course, 150 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: that's were almost evenly divided among economists between tomorrow, July fourteen, 151 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: Thursday or three weeks from now, and as you and 152 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: you point out, they probably will move pretty quickly. But 153 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: you also to comment on the negative bond heals the 154 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: thirty year bonds selling at a record low two point 155 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: one seven percent Germany's tenure bune now with a negative yield. Uh, 156 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: if you're a central banker, do you just say, well, 157 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: we've bought up so much sovereign debt that there's nothing 158 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: left to buy and they'll take any kind of yield 159 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: they can get, or would you be concerned? I think 160 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a little from column Ay and a little from 161 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: column by. Certainly central banks have gone around buying up 162 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: all substantial amount, I should say, of debt, but at 163 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: this point it's also a concern. It's a flight to 164 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: quality trade as investors are looking out in the marketplace 165 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: and we're experiencing three four five standard deviation events, particularly 166 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: surrounding the Brexit, and there's a rush to be safe haven, 167 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: be that German bonds, be that the yend, be that 168 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: the dollar or gold. And I suspect that we will 169 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: continue to see these capital flows into these safe havens 170 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: during this time of uncertainty. If these capital flows into 171 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: these safe havens continue on the institutional and corporate level, 172 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: then what is an individual supposed to make of all this? Well, 173 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: I think individuals are very concerned at this point, and 174 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: I do suspect that we're going to see a lot 175 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: of individuals hoarding cash, pulling their money out of the marketplace, 176 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: with a big question mark of where we headed from here. 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: Now again, the big books got officials. They're telling us 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the economy is on relatively moderate footing, but there is 179 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: a big concern that we could be discussing the R 180 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: word recession sometime in the near future. And of course, 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the fact that the yield curve gets ever flatter as 182 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the yields continue to drop on long term treasuries and 183 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: long term deating around the world. Typically that is has 184 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: been in the past a signal that that our word 185 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: recession could be coming. It's a little bit more complicated 186 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: these days, though, Lindsay p St thank you so very 187 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: much for joining us chief economist as Stiffil Nicholas and co. 188 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna be continuing our look at the markets later 189 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: in the show, will be be speaking with Jack Ablin 190 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: from BMO Private Bank in Chicago. 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