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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith state

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Speaker 1: is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and tie, Dan Herberstein,

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Speaker 3: Go ken happily married ladies. I'm sorry, ten fingers, ten

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Speaker 3: fingers for most people. Week ten is upon us, Dan Ruberstein,

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe it. These games are taking place in

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Speaker 3: the month of Tivember. As we know it here on

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Speaker 3: the show. The season is hurtling towards mass chaos this

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Speaker 3: final month of the season. We will get into some

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Speaker 1: Of college football. But for today, they showed Dan because

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Speaker 1: we pushed it off until today's show. Today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to go through all the games. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a big old preview episode. We haven't done one

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Speaker 1: of these since last year. I'm excited to be back

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Speaker 1: here with you talking about a whole bunch of games,

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Speaker 1: my friend, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: We're starting with ECU Temple.

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Speaker 1: Tie.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we have time for much else,

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Speaker 3: but let's rock. Let's rock. How well can Temple defend Philly?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Tie, I this is arguably the best week

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Speaker 3: us and the college football universe more broadly speaking, that

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Speaker 3: I just like to cherish when it is the doldrums

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Speaker 3: You're gonna make me cry. I understand. You stepped on

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Speaker 3: my Peter North joke, ty, and I'll never forgive you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: But I love this moment. I love this moment of

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Speaker 3: to know who you are come early December.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep bringing that up. I still think. I

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Speaker 1: still think that is a fair statement. Two hundred percent accurate.

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Speaker 1: You thou accurate two seasons ago during our preview. I

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Speaker 3: You felt confident that you would know more about like

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Speaker 1: The polls, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I won't tron on more

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Speaker 1: Please. We got into this business of nicknaming the Saturday

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Speaker 3: First separation Saturday or show show me Saturday. Yeah, today

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Speaker 1: But that is how we're going to use my locks

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Speaker 1: You are a cooler, Dan, I am like mister freeze,

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Speaker 3: That's true. I'm talking about like a casino cooler that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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Speaker 3: One of the finew movies, of course, A Terrible Batman.

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Speaker 1: High Noon, ABC. It is number nine, Vandy, it is

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Speaker 1: point favorite. Arch Manning in concussion Protocol. Yeah, so if

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Speaker 1: by the time people hear this, Dan, there's a pretty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean even still, we'll see what he

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Speaker 3: still may not play, right, It's still a game time

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Speaker 1: So I don't know does that factor in it? All?

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Speaker 3: I feel well, weirdly, we don't have data on Texas

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Speaker 1: He can't be. And the other thing that I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like good Arch throws are incredible, good Arch, the

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Speaker 1: And I think the offense has improved a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of flower tortillas are terrible, but the

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Speaker 1: If you're talking strength versus strength, it's third and four.

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Speaker 3: I was a different Texas offense. So I'm going Vandy

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Speaker 1: If it is Matthew Caldwell in this game. By the way,

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Speaker 3: This is Bill simmons ewing theory. Like, no, it might

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Speaker 3: Matthew Caldwell might actually be better than ourch Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want people to keep an open mind. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: we've seen Matthew Caldwell throw eleven passes this year, a

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a full on rock fight.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we see a lot offense. I think

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Speaker 3: I think they're good enough to take away the legs

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Speaker 1: If they force him to be more of a thrower

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Speaker 1: I think he's completed something like seventy percent of his passes.

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Speaker 3: to three point thirty on Fox. We're gonna jump around

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Speaker 3: This is unranked Kansas State. This game's being played in Manhattan, Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech is a seven and one half point road favorite.

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Speaker 1: DAN. That's a lot of points against a team like

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Speaker 1: But this is a biggin for Texas Tech, even if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kansas State should be playing with more confidence

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Speaker 3: I'm not a huge believer in Baron Morton is a

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I trust and fully love the

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Speaker 1: It has absolutely been a disappointing season, but they are

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Speaker 1: Like it's not even close to be fair.

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Speaker 3: They did win two in a row TCU in Kansas,

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Speaker 1: national championship situation. Now, what does that mean for people

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Speaker 1: who aren't familiar Way back when when we were all

435
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Speaker 1: younger and full of life and had no wives or

436
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Speaker 1: kids or grays in the temple. I posted something on

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Speaker 1: our website which I think is still out there. I

438
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Speaker 1: don't know if I took it down, but at the

439
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Speaker 1: time it was my seven rules of college football betting.

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Speaker 1: Don't go and read it now. It has no credibility,

441
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Speaker 1: but okay, fair. The de facto national championship is something

442
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Speaker 1: that I talked about then that I talk about every year.

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Speaker 1: It is exactly what it sounds like. It's when one

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Speaker 1: team has a regular season game that, for whatever reason,

445
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Speaker 1: because it's a big home spot, because it's the last

446
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: big game on the schedule, because it's a matchup against

447
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Speaker 1: a rival or a hated opponent, when you treat that

448
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Speaker 1: game like a national championship game, and I think this

449
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Speaker 1: could be that for Kansas State. I have been watching

450
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Speaker 1: the k State offense for a few weeks running now.

451
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Speaker 1: It was dreadful the first four games of the year,

452
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Speaker 1: then they were off in Week four, and since then

453
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Speaker 1: it has progressively gotten better. Agree the defense has shown

454
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Speaker 1: modest improvements as well. So I hear you on k State,

455
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Speaker 1: and there has definitely been an issue with inconsistency, but

456
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Speaker 1: I do think that they are getting better and they

457
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Speaker 1: have arrived at this point now start of November, where

458
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Speaker 1: they're more of a force to be reckoned with more

459
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Speaker 1: along the lines with what we expected at the start

460
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Speaker 1: of the year. Still not fully there, but still not

461
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Speaker 1: where they've been the first four weeks of the year.

462
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot of points here.

463
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Speaker 1: So the matchup that I am most interested in watching

464
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Speaker 1: is Avery Johnson against a very active linebacker corps for

465
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Like shield Wood the DC for Tech. He

466
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Speaker 1: almost treats his defensive line as like a conduit to

467
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Speaker 1: free up his linebackers to be give them freedom to

468
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Speaker 1: go out there and make plays. That's what he does.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the linebacking Corps has the highest HAVOC rate

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Speaker 1: of any linebacking corps in the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because technically David Bailey is as outside linebacker and

472
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Speaker 3: he's been incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been great. He's been a great pick up

474
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Speaker 1: in the portal stamp. Yeah. Yeah. I think a really

475
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Speaker 1: good duel threat quarterback, or I should say the best

476
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Speaker 1: of a seemingly good dual threat quarterback, and Avery Johnson

477
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Speaker 1: is somebody who can put those guys in really difficult situations.

478
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Speaker 1: And so I just think we're gonna see a little

479
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Speaker 1: bit of a match there. I don't fully know how

480
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Speaker 1: it's going to go down, but I'm curious to me

481
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Speaker 1: that is the matchup. I do think Texas Tech will

482
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Speaker 1: win this football game. We agree on that front. I

483
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: think their defensive prowess so far this year has been

484
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Speaker 1: one of the better stories in college football. I mean,

485
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Speaker 1: they've jumped like ninety spots up, so they've been really

486
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Speaker 1: good on that front. Shield Wood has done her bang

487
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Speaker 1: up job. Their transfer portal guys have hit. Their success

488
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: rates are through the roof. I mean, they've done a

489
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Speaker 1: really good job there. I trust them more to get

490
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Speaker 1: one or two key stops to give them the separation

491
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Speaker 1: they need. But the RPS here is three and a

492
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Speaker 1: half in favor of Texas Tech. So I'm going Kansas

493
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Speaker 1: State home dog of the week the Yakos home dog

494
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Speaker 1: of the week.

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Speaker 3: By the way, something of note to support what you're

496
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Speaker 3: saying is the one you mentioned the last four games

497
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Speaker 3: since that first buy, they're basically a weird ending against

498
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Speaker 3: Baylor away from winning four straight. So maybe I'm going

499
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Speaker 3: to backpedal a little bit on my week to week

500
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Speaker 3: trust here because they have been very good since that

501
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Speaker 3: buy in terms of taking care of business. The other

502
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Speaker 3: thing is Avery Johnson hasn't made a ton of mistakes

503
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Speaker 3: through the air in terms of interception. Now, he's had

504
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Speaker 3: a clean year. He's had I think one pick in

505
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Speaker 3: Big twelve play.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I've been very good. He's been really good.

507
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Speaker 3: He just the surprising number to make needs a little bit.

508
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Speaker 1: More of a supporting cast right now, and I don't

509
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Speaker 1: think he's fully gotten that, especially in the ground.

510
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Speaker 3: But Jace Brown stepped forward last week.

511
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Speaker 1: Yep.

512
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Speaker 3: Obviously a big play receiver. I'm still in on Texas Tech.

513
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Speaker 3: I'm still in because of the defense. I think it's

514
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Speaker 3: going to travel. But I don't hate the pick. I

515
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Speaker 3: don't hate them looking at them as a home dog.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one to twenty seven. Texas Tech wins on the road,

517
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Speaker 1: but Case State covers. Okay, we just seven point thirty

518
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Speaker 1: on ABC. It is number eighteen. Oklahoma on the road

519
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Speaker 1: at number fourteen Tennessee, the Vols are a three point favorite.

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Speaker 1: I brought up the question about Oklahoma on the last show,

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Speaker 1: right I'll bring it up again now. Oklahoma, if you

522
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Speaker 1: look at their body of work, has played one count

523
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Speaker 1: them one trustworthy offense, and they gave up thirty four

524
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Speaker 1: points and four hundred and thirty one yards a week ago. Yes,

525
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Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma was much better than a year ago.

526
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. But I

527
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Speaker 1: also do feel like there's a bit of fools gold here, okay,

528
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Speaker 1: and that might be due to the offense, probably more

529
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Speaker 1: of the offense than the defense. On last week's episode,

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Speaker 1: we got a nice comment that I think rightfully questioned

531
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Speaker 1: my logic and said, well, let's see what happened. Let's

532
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Speaker 1: see what happens against Old Miss, because the Old Miss

533
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Speaker 1: defense is very gettable. Well, what they got was twenty

534
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Speaker 1: six points, right, fourteen of which came on long, kind

535
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Speaker 1: of broken play touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: So, by the way, get those. Those are great to have. Hey,

537
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Speaker 3: you'll take them, right. I'm not complaining. More teams want

538
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Speaker 3: explosive plays, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is just my kind of longer way

540
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Speaker 1: of saying that I am still not fully trusting of

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma offense. I like John Mattier, I'm with you.

542
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Speaker 1: Running the ball has been a struggle off and on

543
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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. Defensively, they're fine. Defensively,

544
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Speaker 1: they're very good, but offensively when they need some more pop,

545
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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure it's fully there to get it.

546
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Speaker 1: And a game like this against Tennessee is one that

547
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Speaker 1: I think is going to feature a lot of points. Dan,

548
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Speaker 1: So if you're an Oklahoma fan, you need points. You're

549
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Speaker 1: gonna need to score what thirty points sure thereabouts to

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Speaker 1: beat Tennessee, and that's not something we've seen Oklahoma do

551
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Speaker 1: yet this year.

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Speaker 3: I think that's somewhat right. Oklahoma's defense is still good

553
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Speaker 3: even though you, I think rightfully have pointed out the trustworthy,

554
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Speaker 3: good offenses that they face. I think they still have

555
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Speaker 3: good players. They've performed really well against even if the

556
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Speaker 3: offenses are not super trustworthy. They performed like a good

557
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Speaker 3: defense should. Are they a top five defense in the country.

558
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Speaker 1: Maybe not, But I I don't.

559
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Speaker 3: See how you could look at this Oklahoma defense and

560
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Speaker 3: not consider them to be quality.

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Speaker 1: They're I'm not saying that quality, but I'm just looking

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Speaker 1: at the body of work. Yeah yeah, And I'm saying,

563
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: all right, well, they finally played an offense that we

564
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Speaker 1: know is good in Ole Miss and they gave up

565
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Speaker 1: thirty four points. They gave up a bunch of yards.

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Speaker 1: It's not everything. It was a back and forth game.

567
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma could have won that game. They were certainly in it.

568
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Speaker 1: So this is not said to demean Oklahoma, but it

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Speaker 1: does kind of support what I was saying a week ago,

570
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Speaker 1: which is everybody's high in Oklahoma. We like Oklahoma, we

571
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Speaker 1: like what they did in the offseason. This team is

572
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Speaker 1: clearly better. But as for a team that was being

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Speaker 1: talked up as maybe an SEC or a playoff contender

574
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Speaker 1: a month ago, I don't see it. Yeah, they're not

575
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Speaker 1: that good.

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Speaker 3: So here here's the interesting thing to me, and I

577
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: know Oklahoma fans have will put it kindly mixed views

578
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: on Ben Arbuckle and the job he's done, lead steering

579
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: into what Oklahoma canon can't do well roster wise whatever

580
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Speaker 3: with this offense, and it's still a rebuilding offensive machine

581
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Speaker 3: for Oklahoma. If you can find a little bit of

582
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Speaker 3: grass against Tennessee, you can grab a lot of grass.

583
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Speaker 3: This is not a good tackling team. This is a

584
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Speaker 3: team that will offer you a flimsy arm to run

585
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Speaker 3: through if you get through that first level. You know

586
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: guys coming up and run support guys trying to make

587
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 3: tackles in the open field. Especially given the injuries and

588
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: perhaps the dip and talent level after last season in

589
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: the back end of the Tennessee defense, and now they

590
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: might be without. I think Colton Hood got hurt last

591
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: week and he's been very good. I want to say

592
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Speaker 3: Colorado transfer for Tennessee. We still don't know the status

593
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Speaker 3: of Jamald McCoy, who I don't.

594
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Speaker 1: Even know if he's going to play this season.

595
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Speaker 3: We'll see, And he was considered to be like the

596
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Speaker 3: lockdown star power of this defense heading into or heading

597
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: out of last season.

598
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Speaker 1: I mean he's probably a first round draft pick, yeah.

599
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: Right, and hasn't seen the field obviously this season. So

600
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Tennessee needs to score those points, is what I'm saying.

601
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: They've needed those defensive touchdowns right, the scoops and scores,

602
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: and I think they want to. I had a batted

603
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: down pass that was coughtfin brought back against Kentucky last week.

604
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: They've needed those not to score a lot of points,

605
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: but they've needed those to get the defense off the field, right.

606
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: They need, like the all or nothing element of this

607
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: defense to be successful turnovers. Namely, I love the Tennessee offense.

608
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: I love how Joey Aguilar has stepped in I love

609
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: these two running backs. I love the fearlessness that with

610
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Speaker 3: which they still play even with the changes that they've

611
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: had on offense. I like Tennessee a bunch here. The

612
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: only thing I really don't love about it is it's

613
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Speaker 3: there's some sort of theme like blackout situation. I want

614
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: to say in this game. Yeah, that scares me a

615
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: little bit. But what's the number right now as of time.

616
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Speaker 1: Of recording in favor of Tennessee. I like that.

617
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: Number like that. I think thirty to twenty is something

618
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: in there. I like Tennessee here.

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Speaker 1: If I told you that this game was going to

620
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Speaker 1: be a shootout, who would you trust more?

621
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Speaker 3: Oh, I would trust Tennessee more. I would also trust

622
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Speaker 3: Tennis Moore because I want to say Oklahoma has played

623
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Speaker 3: exactly one road game in like a like true road

624
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: game against a power conference team or I think anybody

625
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: this year, right, Yeah, I think it's just the South

626
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: Carolina game and then the neutral side game against Texas.

627
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: So in terms of like how battle tested they are

628
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: after the Old Miss game, I just I think Tennessee

629
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: is in a better spot here at home.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree completely. And to bring this full

631
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: circle in talking about whether or not. Oklahoma's playing trustworthy defenses.

632
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Whether whether that matters to you or not, I don't know.

633
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: But statistically, the Tennessee offense is better than Old Misses

634
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: and I think there's always a capability with the Josh

635
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Hipel offense that they're going to score a bunch of points.

636
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: So real point spread has Tennessee by six. I'm going

637
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: to say it's something like thirty three to twenty seven.

638
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the balls. I think the balls

639
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: went out.

640
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Right, and Tennessee has not had a perfect season, no,

641
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: but those I think the lapses have come against Well,

642
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 3: look it's the road game against Alabama, which sort of

643
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: blew up in that middle eight, and then I'm not

644
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: going to say they were fortunate to be Mississippi State,

645
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: but they did need those defensive touchdowns to send that

646
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: game to overtime and win. So I think this is

647
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: a nice spot for Tennessee h to build on what

648
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: they've been doing lately. So yeah, I'm going Volves by

649
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: nearly or right around ten.

650
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And by the way, missisisp State's pretty good team

651
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: this year. There's not a they are a shame in

652
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: that if you're going to ot against Mississippi State.

653
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a matter of shame or not. Tennessee

654
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: is more advanced in terms of roster construction and rhythm

655
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: to the point where like they likely should win that

656
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: kind of game in regulation. I know, tough team, but

657
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: you could say that about a lot of teams.

658
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Totally, all we know is this Mississippi State is not

659
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: nearly as bad as the oddsmakers thought preseason when they

660
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: had a three and a half over under. They're much

661
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: much better than that.

662
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: I would go as far as saying that Mississippi State

663
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: is the clear best winless in conference team in America. Probably, Yeah,

664
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: I don't even have a doubt about it.

665
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Seven point thirty on NBC. Speaking of the facto national Championships,

666
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: here we go please. Number twenty three. USC is a

667
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: six and one half point road favorite on the road

668
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: at night against Nebraska Dan. I know the Heroes game,

669
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that rivalry is a big deal against Iowa to closed

670
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: out the year. Totally, I gotta believe that hosting USC

671
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: at night Halloween weekend is going to have the juices

672
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: flow in two if not a little bit more. Of course,

673
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: Nebraska's sort of played the last two weeks like they

674
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: were look ahead spots to this game.

675
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Hmm.

676
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has not been a good go here the

677
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: last couple weeks for the Cornhuskers. Dan Trojans still have

678
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: the number one sp plus offense. They did get bullied

679
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame a couple weeks back. Maybe we could

680
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, I think it's fair to say

681
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: this offense for USC is like several orders of magnitude

682
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: better than pretty much anything Nebraska's seen so far this year.

683
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: Well, they played Cincinnati, which has been really good offen

684
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: week week one. That was week one, week one. So

685
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: if I'm USC here, I'm looking at this Nebraska defense,

686
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: I run right at him. I think I run directly

687
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: at him. And I think if USC is able to

688
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: establish a run game, I think they win. You know,

689
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: we talk about matchups all the time. I think it's

690
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: very very straightforward. If they can run the ball, they're

691
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: going to win this game. Because Nebraska is going to

692
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: have to push some of its safeties up. They're going

693
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: to have to commit a little bit more that they

694
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: would otherwise use in pass coverage just trying to stop

695
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: the run.

696
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: And if you do that, boom, that's when the pass

697
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: opens up. I don't think they've got the secondary that

698
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: can take either Makaile Lemon or Jacobe Lane out of

699
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: the game the way that Notre Dame did. And so

700
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be this again chess match. Where do

701
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: we bring those safeties to? What end? Do we get

702
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: them involved in the ground game? Is USC even going

703
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: to go in that direction? I know that's been one

704
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: of the points of criticism of the Lincoln Riley offense.

705
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: They should just ran the ball more like last year,

706
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: right they didn't. Sure so whether or not they try

707
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: to execute that game plan remains to be seen. But

708
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: as I see it, that's what I would do, Just

709
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: run right at them and see if they can stop it.

710
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: Well, they are to be fair to USC. USC is down,

711
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: or at least has been down lately. They're starting left

712
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: tackle and starting center, and they're two starting running backs

713
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: essentially not starters, but they're their top two running backs.

714
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: They were down to King Miller against Michigan, who stomped

715
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: them and then didn't do anything of consequence at Notre Dame.

716
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: Also working against USC is the tides of time and history.

717
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley is three to twelve against the spread as

718
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: a road favorite. Two of those three were USC road

719
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: trips that went all the way to Pasadena, California against

720
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: the UCLA, and they also beat Stanford and covered. So

721
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: they're zero to twelve. Besides those three, under Lincoln Riley

722
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: is a road favorite. They're favored by what's six and

723
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: a half seven points here?

724
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Six and a half.

725
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a bodyclock game. This is at night.

726
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: They have time. They have a very specific weekless weakness

727
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: in Nebraska, and that's their front on both sides of

728
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: the ball, which is not great. They have been protecting

729
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Dylan Royola well to a lot that might be even

730
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 3: an understatement. And then they allow a ton on the ground,

731
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: which you alluded to, highlighted by the big runs from

732
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: Michigan a few weeks ago. There's every reason in the

733
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: world to pick USC here. They have the more productive quarterback,

734
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: they have I think, a better offensive mind, I know,

735
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: a better offensive mine running things. They have better offensive

736
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: skill talent, especially the running backs are healthy. But even so,

737
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: they have the best receiver in this game. They have

738
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: the better tight end in this game. I'm going USC,

739
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: and I hate myself for it, and it makes me

740
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: feel like it makes me sound like I'm sort of,

741
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: you know, sitting on the fence here that I'm giving

742
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: you every reason to pick against USC on the road,

743
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: but I just can't get on board with this version

744
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: of Nebraska. Like USC rushes the passer pretty well, Nebraska

745
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: does not. Nebraska's back end on defense is actually pretty impressive. Yeah,

746
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: so that's where I think the matchup, you know, becomes

747
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: extremely intriguing. Guys like Makai Lemon being covered by good

748
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: corners running into a good secondary. I just don't think

749
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: that's a recipe right now for winning big games. Not huge,

750
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: but a big game for Nebraska. And so if you

751
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: are the second best offensive line and the second best

752
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: defensive line in a game with some magnitude, I can't

753
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: get on board. I can't get on So I'm gonna

754
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: give the points. I think USC wins this game by

755
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: eight points. I don't know, call it twenty eight, twenty

756
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: something like that. I'm going sc here to cover and

757
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: absolutely hate myself for doing it. Absolutely cannot stand that

758
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm taking this stand. But I can't get on board

759
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: with signing with this Nebraska team against the talented SC Yeah.

760
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: The quote unquote real point spread was USC minus five

761
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: and a half so, if anything, that's begging me to

762
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: take Nebraska at home at night. But I think I'm

763
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: with you, Like I get what you're saying about it

764
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: being a good secondary, and I agree this is a

765
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: good secondary.

766
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: They say, what do they say? They say, the moment

767
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: the pizza hits the box, it gets worse forty percent, right,

768
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: it steams, it gets a little bit soggy, and it's

769
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: just not the same experience. The moment this USC team

770
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: checks in at LAX, they get forty percent worse.

771
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess. But they are good at rushing the passer,

772
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: and that has been a problem, a real problem.

773
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 3: J Kim Stewart is a star in the making.

774
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: Nebraska is not showing a whole lot of improvement along

775
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: their line. USC is sixth in the country in pressure rate.

776
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: They're going to do everything they can to speed up

777
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Delan Royal as much as possible, and I think that's

778
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: going to have an impact here. I hate this pick

779
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: so much. I'm going against my model too. I will

780
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: join you in solidarity.

781
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: Oh now this is even worse. It's even worse for nothing, Ty,

782
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: you can still switch your pick. It's a free country.

783
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: I've got this at thirty one to twenty four USC

784
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: and I've got them up late and then maybe like.

785
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: Almost a back door cover of a touchdown to get

786
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: at the thirty one twenty four. I just think their

787
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: offense is gonna come in like a freight train, and

788
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Nebraska can handle it. Okay, we agree,

789
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: and that scares me. Ten fifteen Eastern time. If we

790
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: weren't doing a late stream day and there is a

791
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: zero percent chance we'd stay up for this one. So

792
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: on ESPN it's number seventeen. Cincinnati has number twenty four.

793
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: The Utah Utes a bit of a bodycock situation.

794
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, So ten fifteen pm body time. Yeah,

795
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: for the Bearcats playing in Salt Lake City at altitude

796
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: against the Utes.

797
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: The Utes are favored by nine and a half points.

798
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Dan so many points. It's a lot of points.

799
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: And that's points with out Devin dan Pierre's status being known,

800
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: who didn't play last week and it didn't matter when

801
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: they absolutely I mean that was surgical tie.

802
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to cut something, but what and where?

803
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

804
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of just decided to cut Colorado anywhere

805
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: they saw some flesh. I think I like Utah here,

806
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: I think what Cincinnati has done this year has been

807
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: super impressive, and I think they are a legit team.

808
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: I am just of the mind that throwing into this defense,

809
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: running into the defense is going to be different. It's

810
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: just going to be different. And while Cincinnati's defense in

811
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: various aspects can be fine, too good, there are too

812
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: many questions for me, and I think we have a

813
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: crock potting on our hands, nothing like what we saw

814
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: last week. Because again I think Cincinnati's legit. I just

815
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: think it's going to be something like thirty five twenty four.

816
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: Does that cover it for them?

817
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it should.

818
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: That's probably too many points, probably twenty eight, seventeen something

819
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: in there, thirty to nineteen. I just see that as

820
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: being an unfortunate spot for the Bearcats, who even if

821
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: they lose this game comfortably, I'm still going to be

822
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: a believer in them as a legit team.

823
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: The RPS here is Utah minus twelve. Wow. Okay, this

824
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: is not a particularly explosive Utah offense. It feels a

825
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: lot like the Ghosts of Utah pass, doesn't it. It

826
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: does where they want to beat your brains in on

827
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: the ground. They run at about sixty three percent of

828
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: the time on first down, second down, third and short.

829
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Since he is going to get a heavy dose to

830
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: the ground.

831
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: Game number three on third down nationally in overall third

832
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: down success rate fifty four percent.

833
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm just not convinced that since he can stop this

834
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: ground attack and the Utah offensive lines of beast. I mean,

835
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: we talked about that in the preseason, right, that was

836
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: always going to be the catalyst for this, and frankly

837
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: that's just the way Kyle Whittingham likes it. But the

838
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: way we have seen this ground assault grow up around

839
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: with Sean Parker and Aquari Rodgers, Devin dan Pierre when

840
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: he's in there, that's been really impressive, and I think,

841
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, provided they have all three of those guys,

842
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: we're going to see more of the same. What's interesting

843
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: is that since he kind of runs a very similar offense,

844
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: it's obviously not the same, but they use Brandon Soresby

845
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: a lot as a runner when he does throw it.

846
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: By the way, he's got a twenty to one touchdown

847
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: to interception ratio, so he's been very good across the board.

848
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think they are are as good as

849
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: Utah at running the style of offense and I agree

850
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: with you that going up against the UTA is just different.

851
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: It's just different. I think they're going to have trouble

852
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: moving it against this Utah defense, and it is a

853
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: Utah defense. That counterpoint, I guess, has been gettable against

854
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: the run, but very very good against the pass. They've

855
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: been a brick wall in pass defense. So I think

856
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: there's a possibility here that we see a trading of

857
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: blows early. But I tend to trust Utah more over

858
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: sixty minutes at home at night with Frankly a coaching

859
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: staff that I can trust more. By Kyle Whittingham, thirty

860
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: to eighteen is my final one? Fair right around same area. Okay,

861
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: thirty to eighteen. We agree, we agree. Let's do some

862
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: rapid fire previews. Okay, I just want first blush here.

863
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of games. We could talk till

864
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: we're blue in the phase. We could talk for two hours.

865
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk for two hours, all right? Yep?

866
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: High newon ESPN number ten. Miami a twelve point road

867
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: favorite against SMU dan Uh. It's a lot of potatoes again,

868
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: twelve point road surgical. What do we got? I like

869
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: Miami here? Hate that I like Miami here.

870
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: I think SMU has been relatively flat this year, coming

871
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: off of a weird travel loss to Wake Forest's not weird.

872
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: Wake Forest is good. I just don't think SMU is

873
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: all that good. I don't think they have the defense.

874
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: I think this is a slow like thirteen to ten

875
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: or something at halftime.

876
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: And it opens up in the second half. For my

877
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I think SMU is good enough to use the Louisville

878
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: template and force Carson back to beat them through the air.

879
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't think SMU is that good. I do not

880
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: think they're good enough. Yeah, to win using the Louisville template.

881
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: But cover.

882
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: But I've got this one at thirty to twenty four Miami.

883
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: It's a it's a sizable road trip playing at noon,

884
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: so you know it's a little okay, three thirty ABC.

885
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: It is number five Georgia, a seven point favorite neutral

886
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: site game obviously against the Florida Gators.

887
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not allowed to.

888
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: Call the cocktail party anymore per the city of Jacksonville, Florida. Right,

889
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: but they have no jurisdiction here, Dan, this is the

890
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: world's largest outdoor cocktail party. Dan, Just for reference, what

891
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: do we do in a big rivalry like this, you

892
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: gots to throw those records out, rub the records right

893
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: on out. This is gonna be Billy Napier's I should say,

894
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: the first game without Billy Napier.

895
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is his first game that he gets to

896
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: watch on TV, first game that he gets to watch

897
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: with TV. I do not think Florida is gonna win,

898
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 3: but I am genuinely curious to see what the offense

899
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: looks like now that they've got Ryan O'Hara calling the plays.

900
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: He's a quarterback coach. Sidebar, Do you think Billy Napier's

901
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: just gonna like sit with his family and watch this game.

902
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 3: Do you think he's just gonna go out and completely

903
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: avoid it? What do you think the move is for

904
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: any of these guys, For James Franklin, for Billy Napier,

905
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: for Brent Pry, for j Norval Like, take your pick.

906
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: Do you think they're like, well, I guess we're gonna

907
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: watch the old team. Now what do I think they're doing?

908
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: I think they have a keen interest in what I'm

909
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: going to say later in this episode. When I give

910
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: you the window of opportunity, All right, fair enough, pretty

911
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: big of opportunity If you're billiy Napier.

912
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think these guys probably watch I think they

913
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: probably watched their they were so invested, and it'll be

914
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: more about the players with whom they have relationships than

915
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: the administration. They're they're wishing the best for them, except

916
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: for Brian Kelly. Except for Brian Kelly. Yeah, Frank Kelly's

917
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: on with his life.

918
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a tall order against Georgia, especially now

919
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: with new people running the show. Whether or not we

920
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: see improvement on offense will be interesting to see. But

921
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I've got Georgia thirty four to twenty one in this game.

922
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a lot of points against his Florida defense.

923
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: To be like, I.

924
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Don't think Florida's issue is with like having bad players.

925
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: It isn't.

926
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: So we're talking about a Florida team that perhaps is

927
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: going to employ some new ideas on offense, find new

928
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 3: creative ways. We'll have a new play caller, as you mentioned,

929
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: for the first time ever under Billy Napier or in

930
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: the Billy Napier era. I think I'm gonna throw those

931
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: records out and say Florida covers this game. I'm not

932
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: saying they're winning.

933
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: Covering a seven point spread would make for a very

934
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: very interesting discussion on Saturday night between you and I.

935
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: So this game is either going to be a three

936
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: point game or a thirty three point game one.

937
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Of the other.

938
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: Let's also be Claire. Florida's on a winning streak. Florida

939
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: won their previous game and then fired their coach, So

940
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: it's not like things got so so bad that, like,

941
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: we just lost by forty to Mississippi State. Of course

942
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: we're getting rid of Billy Napier. They won that game.

943
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't pretty, they didn't win by a lot of points.

944
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: They did win. Winning is a skill on this show.

945
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: So I think there is something about the Florida defense.

946
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: Georgia's won games against good defenses and lost a game

947
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: against a good defense, really like the evolution and path

948
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 3: that Gunner Stockton has taken this season. But I also

949
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be juice in this game for Florida.

950
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: Every report is that Florida players loved Billionnapier. They love

951
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: playing for him, they love fighting for him, everything like that.

952
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: So there's not the element of thank god he's gone

953
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: in the locker room.

954
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: But maybe like a little bit of win one for

955
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: the gipper type thing.

956
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: Not that, but like just that. There's there's energy, there's

957
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: juice to coming off a bye. If you go to Florida,

958
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: you always want to, you know, rip apart Georgia. Sure,

959
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: So I think with talented players on both sides of

960
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: the ball, I think they can make this a game.

961
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: So I have Georgia winning this game twenty four to

962
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: twenty one in Florida.

963
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: Covering seven pm ESPN, And is South Carolina on the

964
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: road at number seven Old Miss, we'll miss a twelve

965
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Yeah, talk about a lot

966
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: of potatoes. Got a possible double letdown situation going on here.

967
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: This is true.

968
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: We had South Carolina almost beat Alabama a week ago,

969
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: and we had Old Miss go on the road get

970
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: a big win against Oklahoma. So it would not surprise

971
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: me if we look at the score ticker and halfway

972
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: through the game, you and I are slacking back and forth. Hey,

973
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: did you see that it's seven to six in favor

974
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: of somebody? Right, I think we might get a little

975
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: bit of a hangover effect for one, maybe both of

976
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: these teams. I still think Old Miss is better. I

977
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: still think Old Miss is going to win this one

978
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: going away. I still think they're going to put up

979
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: more than thirty points, but I don't think they're going

980
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: to cover twelve and a half. I've got it at

981
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: like thirty five, twenty four, something like that, where South

982
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: Carolina hangs around just enough to cover the point spread.

983
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: But not win out right. I think they lose by

984
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: a lot of points. Okay, Carolina, I have like thirty

985
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: five thirteen, thirty eight thirteen. Okay, I just think away

986
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: from home and you watch the end of that Alabama game.

987
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: For South Carolina I did. It is essentially the worst

988
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: way you can lose a game. It's the worst.

989
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: It is a.

990
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Essentially how quickly it happened, the manner in which they

991
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: fumbled and gave up a touchdown when yes, the season's

992
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: been going terribly. It's a horrible disappointment, but here we

993
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: are in position to beat Bama and at least have

994
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: that silver lining to things, at least have that twinkle

995
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: in your eye when you think about the twenty twenty

996
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: five college football season that went horribly sideways. But hey man,

997
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: we beat Bama and they didn't beat Bama.

998
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: It did not beat Bama.

999
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: No, and now they're going to play Ole Miss, So

1000
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't think is in a letdown spot. By the way,

1001
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: the sidebar here is Lane Kiffen and his comments about

1002
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 3: Brent Venables saying he thought Oklahoma had the better team,

1003
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: which weren't all that offensive a commentary, Right, You're going

1004
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 3: to say that to keep your guys motivated and energized.

1005
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: Whatever.

1006
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: But then Lane Kiffin went into the history books of

1007
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: his matchups against Brent Venables defenses. Did you see this?

1008
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I did see.

1009
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: He was like, do they have the better team when

1010
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: we beat them at USC fifty five to nineteen in

1011
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: the National Championship?

1012
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: Yes?

1013
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: No, No, okay, just making sure. What about when we

1014
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: dropped forty five on them in a national champ No,

1015
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: they weren't the better Okay. I'm I'm kind of an

1016
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: extreme Lane Kiffin convert just as a human being.

1017
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there is a lot of Steve

1018
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Spurrier in Lane kiff and I understand why Florida would.

1019
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: Want them, but like he says it in such a

1020
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: monotone level wayah where I'm just like, man, this is

1021
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: just in his DNA, and I I just love it. So,

1022
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 3: I like Ole Miss, Big Hair. I think they're gonna

1023
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: run all over South Carolina.

1024
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: Actually seven point thirty ESPN two number eight Georgia Tech

1025
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: on the road at NC State. They are only a

1026
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: five and a half point favorite. Interestingly enough, be real

1027
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: capital R point spread. Yeah, is also five and a half.

1028
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't get this line at all, Dan, neither do I.

1029
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 3: It's at night, I know, but I would think Tech

1030
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 3: would be favored by closer to ten against a team

1031
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: like an NC State.

1032
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, So I ran this like seven times

1033
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: to make sure that I wasn't getting the math wrong,

1034
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: and the computer anyway seems to favor what Hollywood smothers

1035
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: could do in this game big runs. Yeah, that seems

1036
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: to be the disparity between the number that I was

1037
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: getting and the number that I would have gotten if

1038
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: not for Hollywood's mothers. So my initial read was Georgia

1039
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Tech minus ten. Therefore, I think that is my cue

1040
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: to steer into the number and go and see State

1041
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: plus five and a half. Oh, so you're okay, you're

1042
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: going against myself. Sorry, I'm all over the place. I'm

1043
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: betting against myself here, give me.

1044
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 3: Okay, Georgia Tech lock of the Week. Now that you've

1045
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: said that, Okay, yeah, luck of the week. You've worked

1046
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: yourself into like a maple twist. I know, by the

1047
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: way sidebar, Why isn't there more talk about NC State

1048
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: opening up? Maybe there should be. I don't know.

1049
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard a little bit here and there,

1050
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's not right. But like, ANC

1051
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: State's a big school, you could definitely win there. Dave

1052
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: Dordan's had a good run. I definitely think it's time

1053
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: for a different approach.

1054
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 3: They've lost four FBS games in a row now, Duke

1055
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 3: on the road, Notre Dame, Pit on the road. It's

1056
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: aren't easy games, but the manner in which they lost

1057
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: those games thirty six to seven to Notre Dame, fifty

1058
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: three points given up by their defense at pit to

1059
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: a freshman quarterback, and they're like likely going to lose

1060
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: to Georgia Tech Miami. We'll see on Florida State, We'll

1061
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: see on UNC But.

1062
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: It's time, man, It's time for somebody else.

1063
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: But here's the thing though, Yes maybe, but like, do

1064
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: you want to be the ninth best available job?

1065
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm no. It's it's a really really difficult situation right now.

1066
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: If you're a team that hasn't fired its coach yet,

1067
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about it because everybody's going to have

1068
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: that same logic. Does it really benefit us to be,

1069
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: like you said, the eighth ninth best job on the

1070
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: board when there's a million other openings out there and

1071
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be hyper competitive, We're going to have

1072
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: to pay more for less.

1073
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: I mean, buddy, his buyout is fifteen million dollars, that's

1074
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 3: not nothing.

1075
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just think it's time.

1076
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: So then you're making like a twenty three million dollar decision,

1077
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar probably more than that if you

1078
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: consider coaching staff staff.

1079
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, buyouts for the rest of the staff. Yeah.

1080
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Just saying whether it happens this year or at some

1081
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: point in the future, maybe it just retires. I don't know,

1082
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: but I think I think it's time to go a

1083
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: different direction.

1084
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: It is fifteen million dollars, though he's owed a lot

1085
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 3: of money.

1086
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: Hi Noon on the ACC network, it is Duke at Clemson,

1087
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: Empson favored by three and a half. I am on Clemson, Dan,

1088
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I am on Clemson. I'm back like ant Ober Left.

1089
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: They can't breathe.

1090
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: I think Duke is solid. I think they're also solid

1091
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: at shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah, I've got Clemson

1092
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: minus four real points spread, and I think this one

1093
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: ends up being something like twenty seven to twenty three.

1094
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what Clemson has done against competent FBS competition.

1095
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: You ready, or competent Power conference competition.

1096
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1097
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: They've lost seventeen ten, lost twenty four to twenty one,

1098
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: lost thirty four to twenty one. That team is now

1099
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: bad without their quarterback. In Syracuse, lost thirty five twenty

1100
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: four to SMU though they have beaten North Carolina and

1101
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: Boston College. If we are considering Duke to be competent

1102
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: Power conference competition, they don't earn these games.

1103
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm going Duke here Hi noon on Fox, Penn State

1104
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 1: at number one Ohio State. Ohio State favorite by twenty

1105
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: and a half points.

1106
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: Isn't it so weird that we are like over an

1107
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: hour into this episode before talking about this game.

1108
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Dude, this was gonna be the game this week. Yeah,

1109
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about this game back in July. Man,

1110
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: this was like the whole everything was gonna hinge on

1111
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: this for James Franklin for the Big Ten season. This

1112
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: game is basically an afterthought, at this point, which is crazy,

1113
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy, twenty and a half points is your points

1114
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: bread in favor of the Buckeyes. I'm gonna go Penn

1115
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: State plus the points, all right, talk me up. Not

1116
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna do much on offense, but

1117
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: I still think the Penn State defense is pretty good.

1118
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a step up from what

1119
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State has been playing lately. I still think Ohase

1120
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: is going to win, but I just think the defense

1121
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: on the Penn State side will offer enough resistance that

1122
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: they're not going to cover twenty and a half. I

1123
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: say something like thirty one thirteen something like that.

1124
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: All right, So the counterpoint is UCLA scored forty two

1125
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: against Stage.

1126
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.

1127
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: Now, maybe that situational. It's a letdown game. After the

1128
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: Orger game. Traveling cross country, i Aowa scored twenty five.

1129
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: So if Io was scoring twenty five, were that was

1130
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: that all offense? I don't remember the exact manner in

1131
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: which Iowa scored their twenty five. Do they have any

1132
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: pick sixes or scoop and scores? No, the Iowa offense

1133
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: they scored. The offense scored twenty five points. So if

1134
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: Iowa was scoring twenty five and the Iowa offense is

1135
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: not horrible this year, it's fine oliso stage to score

1136
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: how many forty four, thirty eight something like that, even

1137
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: if the Penn State defense is up for the up

1138
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: for the challenge, I don't just think, don't think the

1139
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: offense is going to do them any favors. So I

1140
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 3: can't in good conscious feel good about Penn State here.

1141
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: You got to have a reason why a team can

1142
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: keep it reasonably close with a twenty and a half

1143
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: points spread. That reason, I know, But I'm just not

1144
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: a believer in that defense. That's not my reason.

1145
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: So I think I'm just gonna man.

1146
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: They've been competitive. They were competitive against the UCLA in

1147
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: Northwestern and Iowa. They were right there in all of

1148
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: those games. And in the Oregon game, yep. So are

1149
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: they just good enough to throw a good amount of

1150
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: fight but not good enough to actually pose a major threat?

1151
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: This would be the year that they would beat Ohio State.

1152
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: By the way, Ohio State can't really run the ball

1153
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: in the way that you would expect. You know, it's

1154
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: all relative the Ohio State bar for running the football.

1155
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: That's not what they do this year. Incredible defense, Like

1156
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: how many points could Penn State score if they were decent?

1157
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: Like the most decent version of themselves, So the most

1158
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: pretty good version of themselves.

1159
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Don't know this week?

1160
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: This week Ethan Grunkemeyer Penn State the game plan, Well,

1161
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: the running backs are playing strong.

1162
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: Seventeen, Okay, So.

1163
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: If you feel like they were in a decent rhythm,

1164
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: they can score seventeen against Ohio State.

1165
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that high. I just don't think

1166
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: it's that high in number.

1167
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: So I have thirty five thirteen barely covering.

1168
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, the good news for Matt Rule, by the way,

1169
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: is that no Ohio State, no Oregon on the schedule

1170
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: next year for Penn State. In case he's looking ahead.

1171
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: Has your estimation of Matt rule and I'm quoting here definitely?

1172
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: Is your the way you phrased it?

1173
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1174
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: Has that wavered at all? Like if it were one

1175
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: hundred percent definitely? Is it eighty eight percent?

1176
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Definitely? No? Eighty eight percent chance?

1177
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: No, you have not wavered in your If Nebraska loses

1178
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: by thirty five to USC.

1179
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't change anything. It doesn't matter.

1180
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: You think the unbreakable bond between Penn Sate Athletic director Patcraft,

1181
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: and Matt Rule cannot be shaken merely by Matt Rules.

1182
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Nebraska team looking under whate I will here's what I'll say.

1183
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I have heard other candidates that are supposedly in the running.

1184
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: The candidate du jour this week with Brian Hartline, whose

1185
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: name I saw that, Yeah, I would be interested in.

1186
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: I'd be interested in, frankly, anybody other than Matt Rule.

1187
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for Matt Rule. Yeah, I'm just saying

1188
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: I still think it's going to be Matt Rule. I do,

1189
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: and especially with the way that this coaching carousel has

1190
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: gone where there are other high profile jobs where it

1191
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: definitely seems like there is a premium on staying put

1192
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: if you've got something good. I like some of the

1193
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: names I've heard. I still think they're going to come

1194
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: back to Matt Rule. I just do.

1195
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: If you think, I would be happy to be wrong.

1196
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: But does Terry Pegoula want Matt Rule.

1197
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know who Terry Pegoule wants.

1198
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's kind of important.

1199
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: I have no idea who Terry Pagoole wants.

1200
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what the other big names are but

1201
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: does does that name have the support behind the scenes

1202
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: as far as you know Matt Rule, Yes.

1203
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, more support than you would think.

1204
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, no, I would think there would be support just

1205
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: because the you know, Penn Staters love themselves, some Penn Staters.

1206
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I heard. I don't know. Take that

1207
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. Twelve o'clock on ESPN two, Navy

1208
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: at North Texas, Dan, Buddy, this is a really fun game. Ah,

1209
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: how about this one? So North Texas is favored by

1210
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: six and one half points, Ty's real point spread is

1211
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: North Texas minus ten. Yeah. I feel like I have

1212
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: seen this play about a thousand times before though, Okay,

1213
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: and it's where Navy goes up against a team that

1214
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: plays with pace, that likes to throw it seemingly would

1215
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: be able to score a lot of points on Navy,

1216
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: and then Navy just grinds them the hell down. You know,

1217
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: they get like forty two minutes of possession. They just

1218
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: beat their brains in on the ground.

1219
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1220
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: I do like North Texas a lot this year, and

1221
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: Drew Mesamaker has been money. Yeah, So I'm I'm going

1222
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: to stick with my computer and I'm going to take

1223
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: the mean Green to win by ten. I have almost

1224
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: no confidence in this pick. So if you are for

1225
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: whatever reason, if you're you know, if you're in a

1226
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: trance and you decide you want to go with ties picks,

1227
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: don't go with this one. I don't. I don't trust

1228
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: this one at all. But I'm going to stick with

1229
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: North Texas and the mean Green.

1230
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the points here. I think it's

1231
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: going to be a shootout. Obviously, North Texas already has

1232
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: experience against you know, the Option and the Service Academy

1233
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: this year, against Army and it's not a good Army

1234
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: team this year, and they scored thirty eight on North

1235
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: Texas in a back and forth game.

1236
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: I think we have a shootout on our hands.

1237
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: I think North Texas wins, but maybe makes this super interesting.

1238
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: Forty four to forty one likely North Texas, but if

1239
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: it were on a neutral side, I think I would

1240
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: like Navy. And this is another big opportunity, another big

1241
01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: audition for Drew Mestimaker for I don't know, Wisconsin, take

1242
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: your let's kind of pay him.

1243
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Don't go to Wisconsin. Don't.

1244
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: We'll see who's running the offense and you know whatever.

1245
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: But maybe not Wisconsin, but you know, to be the

1246
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: new Texas had new Texas quarterback, the new whoever next

1247
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: season because dude can sling it.

1248
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: And our final game before we call out some under

1249
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: the radar games and bring this bad boy home one

1250
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: pm on TNT Arizona State at Iowa State Dan. Yeah,

1251
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: speaking of games that are weirdly afterthoughts before the year,

1252
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: this one looked like a monster matchup. I remember going

1253
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: through the schedule and looking at first week in November,

1254
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, we got Penn State, Ohio State, we

1255
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: got Florida, Georgia, We've got Arizona State, Iowa State, all

1256
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 1: these gamely big matchups. These are two three lost teams, man,

1257
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: and we got Sam Levit, who's going to be out.

1258
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: We got Jordan Tyson, who seems you know, hit or miss.

1259
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was in a one leg last game.

1260
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: So if we got a Jeff Simms game on our hands,

1261
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: for me, this is like an auto pick for Iowa State.

1262
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I just can't go Jeff Simms. I can't. Speaking of

1263
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: seeing these plays before, yeah, I can't go Jeff Simms.

1264
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah.

1265
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: By the way, we get a lot of emails about

1266
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: people making their case for their team's fan base being

1267
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: the most tortured fan.

1268
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want to do a segment on that

1269
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: maybe on Tuesday. If you've got US fan base that's tortured,

1270
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: Soliverble at gmail dot com will give you a shout

1271
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: out on Tuesday.

1272
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh Man, Mississippi State is up there. There's a lot

1273
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: of Yeah, a lot of contenders here. Auburn at least

1274
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: Auburn would they beat Arkansas last week square thirty plus,

1275
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: so they have that going for them. I'm with you

1276
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: with this. I think a lot of quarterbacks will be

1277
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: able to take advantage of a really beat up, disappointing

1278
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: Iowa State secondary. But I don't think that is this

1279
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: iteration without Sam Levitt for ASU. So I'm gonna go

1280
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: with Iowa State to cover here. They're a pretty flawed

1281
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: team this year, but I think they can win this game.

1282
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: But like they showed a lot early against BYU.

1283
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: It did.

1284
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: BYU was just able to even without l J.

1285
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 1: Martin.

1286
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't talk about last week's week's games

1287
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 3: in that much detail because you did it solo. Because

1288
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,959
Speaker 3: I was just demolishing a dance flor at the moment

1289
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: of course, Yeah, just doing just upper body. I was

1290
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: just upper body. I wasn't doing much that was super

1291
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: impressive by BYU. Iowa State is a good team for

1292
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time. I'm gonna go with Iowa

1293
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: State here.

1294
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ASC is gonna need like two hundred

1295
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: and twenty yards from ree Leak Brown.

1296
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: They're also beat up on their defense. It's just not

1297
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: a good situation.

1298
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: I know. I always State wins this one comfortably. I

1299
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: think it's like thirty three to twenty one. Okay, So

1300
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: where a great reach some under the radar games, Dan,

1301
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: that I just I don't want people to lose track

1302
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: of these hoop three pm on the C dub it

1303
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: is did you say the C dub? I almost said

1304
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: Z dub. I didn't mean.

1305
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: Oh okay, C dub.

1306
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: Number sixteen Louisville a ten and one half point road

1307
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: favorite at Virginia Tech. Dan, it's a lot of points

1308
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: for those wondering what Dan Rubinstein messaged Ty hilden Brand

1309
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: at seven oh three am Eastern time this morning. Quote

1310
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: apparently Virginia Tech and James Franklin are making out in

1311
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: a corner booth end quote. Oh yeah, I was wondering

1312
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: where you're going with that. Seems to be a lot

1313
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 1: of smoke on coach James Franklin taking the gig down

1314
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: in Blacksburg. I've not heard anything to that end, but

1315
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me. I would be stunned if

1316
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: he did not let the market play out a little

1317
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: bit more because he's a Jimmy Sexton client. However, if

1318
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 1: he does have some revenge on the brain, there would

1319
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: be no greater way to get revenge than to go

1320
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech and take all Penn States recruits in

1321
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: the mid Atlantic. So we will see. I think it'd

1322
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: be a great hire for Virginia Tech if they were

1323
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: able to pull this one off. But agree, as we

1324
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: are doing this show, there's like my phones lighting up

1325
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: with people sending messages in about this. So whether or

1326
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: not it comes fruition remains me seen. But definitely a

1327
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: lot of steam right now on Franklin taking that gig.

1328
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 3: Virginia attach with a nice win against Cal Louisville, obviously

1329
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 3: coming off of I don't know, they gave up too

1330
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: many points, perhaps to Boston College. I don't know the

1331
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: rhythm of that game, but the win against Miami, a

1332
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago was obviously crazy impressive. I think

1333
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: Louisville covers this. I'm hopeful that Virginia Tech has turned

1334
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: some sort of corner offensively against Cal.

1335
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: But I think Louisville's too good in too many places.

1336
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: I've got Tech plus the points. And the reason I've

1337
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: got Tech plus the points not because I think they're winning.

1338
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: It's because Louisville has this weird trend where they're within

1339
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: one score of all the decent teams they play.

1340
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's true, And if you're considering Virginia Tech decent,

1341
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 3: that's fine.

1342
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: And I think they're decent enough. I mean, they've got talent.

1343
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: They've got five losses, right, but they do have talent.

1344
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something like thirty one twenty four.

1345
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Virginia Tech had winnable moments that did not go

1346
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 3: their way. Perhaps against like Wake and I don't even

1347
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: know South Carolina was definitely a winnable game. They just

1348
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: didn't play special teams.

1349
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have seven other under the radar games.

1350
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: Let's get through them quick. Okay, please, let's go this

1351
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: got three forty five ESPN two number fifteen, Virginia minus

1352
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: three and a half on the road in the hinterlands, Dan,

1353
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: I have Cal here.

1354
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 3: Virginia has just been playing it too close. Chandler Morris

1355
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: is very good but seems off. I'm going Cal here

1356
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 3: to win this one in a weird game because it's early.

1357
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: That's weird for me for Cal.

1358
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Virginia by a touchdown, but close close

1359
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: the full way through.

1360
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: Col wins by four continue.

1361
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: Seven thirty ACC Network Wake Forest at Florida State. Yeah,

1362
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: Florida State favored by nine and a half. Wake Forest outright?

1363
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Why why do.

1364
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 3: You have a favorite Florida State ACC win this year?

1365
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: Is there one that like jumps out to you or

1366
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: like that's the defining ACC win? The computer says Florida

1367
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 3: State minus eleven. Yeah, I don't care. I think wake

1368
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: Forest is better coached. I think they have the better defense,

1369
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 3: and that's plenty for me. They, you know, won a

1370
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 3: weird close game against SMU at home.

1371
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna take Wake I'm I'm with you

1372
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: at wake By the way, I can't go Florida State here.

1373
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: Come on, Wake Forrest is actually playing with some fire.

1374
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what Florida State's doing. Yeah, four o'clock

1375
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: SEC Network. Mississippi State on the road at Arkansas. Arkansas

1376
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: favored by four and a half points. The computer says

1377
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: Arkansas also favored by four and a half points. I

1378
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: wanted to highlight this game as an under the radar

1379
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: game just because I think it's gonna be fun as hell.

1380
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: There might not be a whole lot of stakes on

1381
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,520
Speaker 1: this one. Arkansas is ready fired to coach, certainly, Mississippi

1382
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: State is not going to do that with the year

1383
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: that they've had. I think we're going to see a

1384
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: lot of points, and I like Missippi State plus the number.

1385
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: I like Mississippi State plus the number. The last time

1386
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 3: Arkansas won a football game was September sixth this season. Okay,

1387
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: the last time they beat a power conference team was

1388
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Like, it's just I don't think they're

1389
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 3: especially good. I really like the potential of their big

1390
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 3: play offense, but I think you need to be a

1391
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: complete team. And Mississippi State in a letdown spot after

1392
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: losing the way they did to Texas, but even still,

1393
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,440
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be up for the opportunity.

1394
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: I like Mississippi State. Right after that on the SEC network,

1395
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: it's seven thirty. It is Kentucky at Auburn. Auburn favored

1396
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: by ten and a half points. It is a battle

1397
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: of two teams that could be looking for new coaches

1398
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Sure maybe, Yeah, I'm gonna go

1399
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: Arkansas minus the number, excuse me, minus number Auburn minus

1400
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: the number. Auburn's gonna win this one by eleven to

1401
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: fourteen points. I agree with you on this one. Yes,

1402
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: seven PMFS one Arizona minus four and a half on

1403
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: the road to Colorado. The computer says it should be

1404
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: Colorado minus one, that the row team is favored here.

1405
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Arizona here. Colorado has been okay.

1406
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 3: Colorado has not been awful, but they have not been

1407
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 3: good at a lot of things on the football field. No,

1408
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: like they've had winnable moments and losses. I thought the

1409
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: Iowa State win, even though Iowa State isn't what they've

1410
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 3: been these past few years, was a good win for Colorado.

1411
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: I just think Arizona specifically plays the pass well, their

1412
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 3: speed on this defense, and I think they're gonna play

1413
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 3: well enough offensively. I think they're gonna win this game.

1414
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: I think Colorado is ready for the season to end.

1415
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: Seven thirty CBS. It is the first of two home

1416
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: and home games. I guess, the first of a rare

1417
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: in season home at home home.

1418
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, in season, in month, you know, almost a month.

1419
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Washington State minus three and a half on the

1420
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: red at Oregon State. I think Washington State's gonna win

1421
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: this one. I don't think that's Oregon State right now.

1422
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: I really like zev Zevi House. That's how you pronounce it, right, Yeah,

1423
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: so I'm going Wazoo. I think they're better and last,

1424
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: but certainly not least. It is the battle for the

1425
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: victory canon Dan, the victory canon for PNESPN you it

1426
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: is Central Michigan. It is Western Michigan. Western's favored by

1427
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: four and a half. The winner of the victory cannon

1428
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: will stay in the hunt for the Mac. There is

1429
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: a grouping, as you might expect, of like four or

1430
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: five six teams that have a shot at the MAC.

1431
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: Could have a weird tiebreaker situation on her hands. Again,

1432
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: but give me Western. Let's go Western.

1433
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm going Western as well at home.

1434
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: There you have it. That is a long list of

1435
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: games to watch this weekend. If you are going to

1436
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: be out and about the window for you is late?

1437
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: Interesting?

1438
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: Okay, get in that date night in week ten, get

1439
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: it in, go out to dinner, go see Cats again,

1440
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: go to the pop.

1441
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: Like a backup show. To recommend, like a backup classic

1442
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: stage performance. I mean you would recommend I go to

1443
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 3: Cats too, Cats two. Okay, I think the window is late.

1444
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: If you got to go out, if this is if,

1445
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: if you're you've been building up.

1446
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: It's not South Pacific, my fair lady, rag time.

1447
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm a cat's guy. I have two dogs, but I'm

1448
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: a cat's guy.

1449
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: Funny thing happened on the way to the forum.

1450
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: Is that the name of a show? Yeah, no idea. Yeah,

1451
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't my scene.

1452
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: But producers.

1453
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: I did see the producers a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,

1454
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: Jersey boys did not see that. I saw Wicked Ones,

1455
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 1: which Chicago wickedly good. I went to see Hamilton this summer.

1456
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 3: Look at you. Did you see Man of the Theater?

1457
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen Hamilton's great okaat great stuff. Go

1458
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: do all that at night. Okay. This is the week

1459
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: where you can go and do this at night because

1460
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: we get a little deeper into the season. Certainly, the

1461
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: latter stages of November. This is when we get weird

1462
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: stuff breaking late at night. This is when you're gonna

1463
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: want to stay up and watch the live stream. Maybe

1464
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: you know, I know a place where they've got one

1465
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: where they talk about college football stuff at time on

1466
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: YouTube for free. Wow. If you are looking to build

1467
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: a quad, though, if you're going to be in front

1468
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: of the TV.

1469
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: And my question to you is how bad you want?

1470
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: If you want those legs and if you want the

1471
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: optimal quad, the time to do it is early. So

1472
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: technically you can take advantage of both the window of

1473
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: opportunity and the optimal quad because in that early block

1474
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: you've got Vandy, Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Duke, Clemson, Navy,

1475
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: North Texas, And if you're feeling saucy, you could even

1476
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: go Arizona State, Iowa State. It starts about an hour

1477
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: later because they like to be different. Right at high noon.

1478
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: You got four games. As you go through, you can

1479
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: sub one in, maybe you can go five wide. Don't

1480
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: know if you've got the way to do that with

1481
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: your home setup. Yeah, I could probably find a way

1482
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: to make that work. I don't know if you're technologically

1483
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: advanced enough, Dan.

1484
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 3: But I could do it, Guru, Yeah, I could do it.

1485
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you can't out there as well if that's something

1486
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: that you're into. So the window is late, the quad

1487
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: window is early, okay, fair enough.

1488
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: By the way, I also have just in terms of

1489
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 3: earthly earlier than Saturday, Bill Belichick is going to be

1490
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: inside the JMA wireless home Bill Belichick and Fran Brown

1491
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: coaching against each other. Both of those teams might be terrible.

1492
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1493
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 3: That could be weird on Friday night if you got

1494
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: nothing else going. Also, by the way, under the radar

1495
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: Saturday on the early slate, UCF Baylor, Yes, UCF isn't great.

1496
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 3: They haven't been closing games. They'll bust some big runs.

1497
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: They'll get after the court, Like there is something fun

1498
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: about UCF football this year in a transition season, and

1499
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: Baylor is like, you know, week to week kind of

1500
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 3: a mess defensively. I think there's something fun about just

1501
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: monitoring that if everything else is like at halftime or

1502
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: a commercial.

1503
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1504
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 3: UCF Baylor is my under the radar early window game,

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 3: am I just you have to participate kind of situation

1506
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 3: is involved with dropping that big stanky, bouncing, barking drum

1507
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: and fife.

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: Give me some of that barking dad. Here we go.

1509
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: Patriot leagues got a couple big games and four to

1510
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: be exact. We start off with the biggest at Murray H.

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: Goodman Stadium, Georgetown, five and three away from Multi sport Field,

1512
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: squaring off against the Lehigh Mountain Hawks, who are eight

1513
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: and oh number seven. They are number seven in the

1514
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: latest FCS rankings. Dan, give me them. Mountain Hawks are

1515
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: going all the way to the FCS title game.

1516
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: Wow, all the way Lehigh big fit and field.

1517
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: One PM. Lafayette five and three on the road at

1518
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: holy Cross, a dismal one in seven. Holy Cross needs

1519
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: an act of the Holy Father to get a win

1520
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: here against the Yetties, Dan, give me the lips minus whatever.

1521
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 3: Lafayette Big when you're forged from the streets of Easton, Pa.

1522
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: Ty. Do you remember we had a guy who used

1523
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: to call in Mike from the mean streets of Easton,

1524
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah. Crown Field at andy KERR

1525
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: Stadium hosting a big affair between two mighty three and

1526
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: five teams. It says here, ooh, one pm Eastern, get

1527
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: your tickets now. Merrimac on the road at Colgate, Dan,

1528
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: I believe Merrimack was the name of a ship. Colgate's

1529
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: definitely the name of a toothpaste. Where we going, I'm well,

1530
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Merrimac on the road here? Why not?

1531
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: Was the monitor in the Merrimac from the Civil War?

1532
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe. So.

1533
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: I did a report i Civil War. Like seventh grade,

1534
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: we had to do a US history paper on any

1535
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 3: aspect of the Civil War, and I chose the naval

1536
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 3: battle monitor versus the Merrimack.

1537
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: If I asked you to do this for me for

1538
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: next episode, could you reproduce that report?

1539
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I could reproduce the report, but if

1540
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 3: you were, like, give me a synopsis of the value

1541
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 3: of that battle, of the naval element of the Civil War,

1542
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 3: I could prepare that.

1543
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 1: Sure. All right, Thursday's episode, and we're talking humanoid robots

1544
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: and just a little bit of raw Merrimac trivia.

1545
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Are you talking about the school Merrimack or

1546
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 3: the actual monitor versus the Merrimack.

1547
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't care about I'm talking about the ship. Oh okay.

1548
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: And last but not least, at e Claiborne Robins Stadium

1549
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: and beautiful Richmond Virginia. The Spiders at four and four

1550
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: playing host to Fordham and one in seven. It has

1551
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 1: not been a good year for Fordham.

1552
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 3: Dan, I'm going spidery here, Yeah, getting that spyalwayure on

1553
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 3: the topic, Tye, It's Harvard Dartmouth week in the Ivy's

1554
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 3: a big matchup.

1555
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: We don't have an IVY League sound, do we. We

1556
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: don't have an IVY sound. I know.

1557
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: Just know that they're building towards their first season in

1558
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: the FCS playoffs as an eligible at large team. Kids

1559
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: talk about Aura. Harvard has Andy Oric. I like that

1560
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 3: as their head coach. He's done a good job for Harvard.

1561
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you to one and all. I'm

1562
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Speaker 1: downloading for listening for supporting. By the way, if you

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Speaker 1: are interested in run the board this week our pick

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Speaker 1: him game, you will be playing for a one hundred

1565
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Speaker 1: and fifty dollars gift card to Dick's Sporting Goods.

1566
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Speaker 3: Ooh, ty come on, we're talking about holidays coming up.

1567
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Speaker 3: Maybe you want to get your your missus a soccer

1568
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Speaker 3: ball or a real romantic Dan Rubinstein a Tyler Hero jersey. Yeah,

1569
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Speaker 3: that's kind of good stuff right there. If you had

1570
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Speaker 3: to gate get Kate anything with one hundred and fifty

1571
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: dollars to Dick Sporting Goods. Oh my god, what do

1572
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: you think she'd be like? I can't believe how thoughtful

1573
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Speaker 3: this was at Dick's Sporting Goods. At Dick Sporting Goods,

1574
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: a rifle, running shoes. Yeah, you've met Kate. I don't

1575
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 3: think she's much for rifles, Okay, running shoes, running gear.

1576
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 3: She is a runner, she did run in high school.

1577
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 3: Is there is there any like it?

1578
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: Honestly, the answer is like one hundred and fifty dollars

1579
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: worth of warm socks.

1580
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 3: It's probably warm socks. So not like matching VJ edgecomb

1581
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: dog jerseys. No, for the for the okay, no.

1582
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Anything that requires me to pick colors is instantly out

1583
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: of the equation because they can't, you know, me with

1584
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Speaker 1: color can't see what I'm looking at.

1585
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: So Marry Christmas, Kate, here are fifteen pairs of warm socks.

1586
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Speaker 1: You laugh.

1587
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Speaker 3: I think it's a great gift.

1588
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Speaker 1: You laugh. But we're in our forties now, and that's

1589
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: a great gift. Okay. I would take that. I'd be

1590
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Speaker 1: very pleased with a fifteen pack. I don't know if

1591
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: they make that, but of one. Oh.

1592
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Speaker 3: I think it's a great gift, but somebody has to

1593
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Speaker 3: be there to appreciate it. Yeah, run the board.

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Speaker 1: playing for the Dick Sporting Good Card. We're gonna have

1601
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Speaker 1: a few other weeks of action here. We're going to

1602
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: go all the way through Conference Championship week, and then

1603
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Speaker 1: as we get into bull season, we're gonna revive the

1604
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Speaker 1: You have to, you have to. We need Rubinstein a

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Speaker 1: pleasure as always.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm supposed to cut something, but what?

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Speaker 1: But what?

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Speaker 2: And where?

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Speaker 1: And where. Hope you enjoy your Scalpel Saturday. Thank you

1616
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Speaker 1: call and rip them apart. Please join in on Saturday

1617
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: night as we do our live stream. Hope to see

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Speaker 1: you there, Hope to see you chatting it up. If not,

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Speaker 1: as always, hit follow, hit subscribe, leave a star, rating

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Speaker 1: solid verbal for that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself Tyl Brant, thank you as always

1623
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Speaker 1: for hanging with us here. We'll catch you elt Sin,

1624
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Speaker 1: stay solid. Peace