1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweet Wirl, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Tuesday, May twenty sixth, twenty 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Jay Ski's hearing the Classic Factory and 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: alongside me, as always Task Millis. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: We're here to celebrate a team winning and of course 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Olympia Coast Olympiacos winning the early Who 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: I get to be Greek for today? That's why I've 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: got my Koboli. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Next to him. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 4: It's my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: and over Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd Hello, 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: there he is here. We are Hello to everybody on YouTube. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: Hit the light button and subscribe podcast listeners five star 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: ratings and reviews. On today's show, we're gonna get you 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: all set for tonight's pivotal Game five in okac. We'll 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: also discuss a little later what's next for the Cleveland Cavaliers. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: But first some numbers. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: Fifty one points to close out Atlanta in the first round, 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: thirty in Philadelphia, thirty seven in Cleveland. Karl Anthony Towns 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: nineteen points, fourteen rebounds, OG scored seventeen as the Knicks 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: routed the Calves one thirty to ninety three Monday night 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: to complete the four game sweep of the Eastern Conference 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 4: Finals and advance to the NBA Finals for the first time. 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: Since ninety nine. 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: New York became the fourth team to have an eleven 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: game win streak during the postseason. It's crazy. And all 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: of their wins, all but one of their wins, I 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: should say, have been by double digits. So they are 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: just kicking ass right now, running rampage through the Eastern 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: Conference as they go to the NBA Finals. We can 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: dissect this game a little bit. It was over in 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: a hurry. I mean, it was a decent start for 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: the Calves. 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: Calves had six good minutes. I saw the Knicks were 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: ready to play for forty eight and it was one, 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: two three cancud. 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so I think you're right, because like, oh man, 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: they're trying to well see you next year. Yeah. 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: They got the ball like early to Mobili on the 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: move and he kissed it off the glass and he 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: hit a three, and then Mitchell had some sort of 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: no hesitation threes. 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: But then you like looked up the score and you're 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: like oh, they're only up one. Yeah, Like they were scoring, 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: but so were the Knicks, and they were like running 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: it down their throat. And that was a big takeaway 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: task the transition point, the. 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Running, the running that they basically doubled their amount of 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: fast breakpoints from the game before they went from seventeen 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: in Game three to thirty three in Game four. Super 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: disappointing that you just saw every single replay they showed 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: was one member of the New York Knicks beating one 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: member of the Cleveland Cavaliers over and over. 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: Everybody like Bridges Brunson leaking out o g ananobia ga. 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: That one at that time that Brunson did it, I 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: mean he was in the paint for the Cleveland Cavaliers 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: before Dean Wade passed the mid court line. Like that 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: was far. That wasn't just a sprint, but that was 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: you know what trade was alluding to. One team was 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: playing hard and the other one said a well, we 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: don't got this. I mean, well, we lost game one, 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: I guess. Then then when Game three crumbled and they 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: were sprinting more than us in Game three, that was 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: the end of it. It sure feels like they're ready to 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: play for six minutes. The offense was all right, oh 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: here comes on, I know, and you're looking good at 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: six minutesteen sixteen, come on, ye looking nice, And there 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: was a one shot. I don't know if you guys 71 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: saw the the Donovan Mitchell yelling at his team, you know, 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: in their huddle, trying to get them going. So he 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: was trying, he was trying, they were trying. 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: It just wasn't a good look that you know. They 75 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: said it on the broadcast that Kenny Atkinson's number one 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: priority heading into game four. Oh yeah, in a do 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: or die game was transition defense. 78 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the opposite. 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the opposite. 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: They had thirteen fast break points in the first quarter, 81 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: the Knicks did, and as they kept piling them on 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: TK your takeaway. 83 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it was twenty sixty three fast break points 84 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: at the half, and these were not fast break points 85 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: off of turnover or stops. It would be like the 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: ball would just get out and like you're saying, whoever 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: was guarding the calve who took the three pointer free 88 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: lay up on the other end, except for Jalen Bruns 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: and he wanted a dunk, was trying to get his 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: first playoff dunk and just couldn't get those fingertips over. 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: They didn't count it as a dunk in the box. 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: He doesn't have a dunk on basketball, right, Yeah, but 93 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: uh yeah, I mean they just destroyed it. Andrew Shammitt 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: got a bang in the third quarter for putting the 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Knicks up twenty nine. 96 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm not good at dunk scores that the NBA does, 97 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: but let's say Jalen Brunson dunked it. It's not pretty obviously, 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: but you know, is there a circumstantial pointing bump up 99 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: because you know they're going to the NBA Finals for 100 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: one time? 101 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: Cold hard data? 102 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and then even when the Calv's like, okay, 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 4: maybe started to get some stops in transition, then the 104 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: Knicks just started throwing all oops to Mitchell Robinson. That 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: was my favorite sequence there of that Quarner. It was 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: like he come up, set a brush screen, just screw 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: to the front of the rim. Yep, throw it up. 108 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: He had a couple of those, and then yeah, in 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: the second quarter it continue. I mean, we had a 110 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: twenty to oh Nicks run, just like we had those 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: big runs in prior games in this series. The eighteen 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: to oh the eighteen to one. This one was a 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: twenty zero run over a five minute span there in 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: the first first half, end of the first quarter, in 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: the second quarter, and the second quarter was like, yeah, 116 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: Nick started cash in threes, Jose Alvarado started like getting steals, 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: and they're going in the other way. They just stealing 118 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: the Kavs lunch money. And then yeah, kat Cat had 119 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: a huge put back dunk and the lead had suddenly 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: ballooned to twenty five points. And the New York Faithful 121 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: in attendance, and there were a lot of them, or 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 4: at least a very vocal contingent there in Cleveland. It 123 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: was a party for the rest of the night. 124 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a third straight playoff round that has ended 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: with Madison Square Garden ending up in a completely different state. 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: It's been in Georgia, it's been in Pennsylvania, and it 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: was in Ohio. Pretty impressive. I mean, it makes sense. 128 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: New York is the biggest city in the United States, ergo, 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: there are transplants everywhere. Plus Knicks fans will try they 130 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: just can't sit in the front row, which was pretty 131 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: so Weirdson. 132 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: Felt like it made me feel like this does not 133 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: seem right, and. 134 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: All of them, like you said, yeah, buried in the 135 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: second row. Second row Knicks fans, first time in their 136 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: lives they've had to sit in the second row. But 137 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: uh yeah, I mean just a complete beat down here. 138 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: Three straight conference finals for Karl Anthony Towns. First time 139 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: he's making the finals. I thought worthy to go with 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: the tough guy voice in the postgame party on the 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Cavs court. There one last slappy gym for the road. 142 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: You know, more turnovers than made shots for James Harden. 143 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: He did it seven times during this playoffs alone. Pretty impressive. 144 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: Wow. 145 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, people been pointing to James Harden's playoff 146 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: performances for a long time, but this is next level. 147 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: Sounds very weird, man, What a weird season for the Caves. 148 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: They made the conference finals. Yeah, that was like the 149 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: whole goal of the season. 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but when you're up twenty two in 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of Game one, then at all crumbled 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: from there. If they went in game one, then it's 153 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: probably looked at as a huge accomplishment for the Castle. 154 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: Knows what happens is they still got to there. But 155 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: we mentioned Karl Antony Towns a couple of times. That 156 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: guy deserves a ton of credit and a ton of 157 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: applause because he always gets ridiciculed. He's always the punching peg. 158 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: This guy's got to step up offensively. He's got to 159 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: score more. He's not masculine enough. Whatever the heck that 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: means that he gets on social media. But he has 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: absolutely evolved into this piece where he doesn't need to 162 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: score twenty five points. He is just the center of 163 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: this team in terms of moving the ball. They just 164 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: got it all going on together. He's a great defender. 165 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: You could argue he's been their best defender this postseason. 166 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Something else. He just receives so much ridicule for what 167 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: a performance by him. They just needed to go down 168 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: to one in that opening round series. Whether you give 169 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: the credit to Mike Brown for turning this team around 170 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: or just those guys in the locker room for having 171 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: their backs against the wall and decide and all right, 172 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: let's switch this up a little bit. Everybody get involved. 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: A lot of it has to go to Mike Brown 174 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: for getting Karl Anton Towns more on the perimeter to 175 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: be in that hub, to making everybody involved, but everybody 176 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: performing top to bottom nobody scored twenty for them in 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: a thirty seven point YEA. 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: That is true. It did feel like there was five 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: guys who could have probably gone for twenty if they 180 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: actually had to play this entire game. But yeah, I 181 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: give Mike Brown a ton of credit for making the 182 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: offense way more evenly distributed amongst everybody, because doing that 183 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: makes everybody want to play hard on both ends. And 184 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: suddenly Karl Anthony Towns cares about playing defense because he's 185 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: going to touch the ball every possession rather than just 186 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: watch Brunson dribble it. So Brunson's still the head of 187 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: the Snake, but elevating Towns in the hierarchy elevated everybody 188 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: else and locked in this team as a team that 189 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: really believes they can win. And like, heading to the finals, 190 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: they're going to be the underdogs for sure against whoever 191 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: comes out of the Western Conference. But the Knicks are 192 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: the healthiest they've been in like three seasons. It feels 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: like right now we don't know what the the thunder 194 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: are gonna look like when they get through their hellacious series, 195 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: Nicks are gonna at least win a couple of games 196 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: in the finals. They're playing incredibly Well. 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, like this isn't them squeaking by here in like 198 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: seven game series where they look bad at times, Like 199 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: this is just an ass kicking. They are dominating these 200 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: teams on the road in closeout games. Toughest thing to do. 201 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: Put these teams to bed, and they do it in 202 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: like they do it in like thirteen minutes like whatever. 203 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: Like in the the Hawks close out game, they were 204 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: up twenty like an eleven minutes. Same thing against Philly. 205 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: This one took a little bit longer, heaven forbid, you know, 206 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: like fourteen minutes, let's call it. So they just yeah, 207 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: the chemistry is off the charts. Everything is clicking. 208 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: Now. 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: They have a big break here, it's a week plus 210 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: before Game one of the NBA Finals. They're not moving 211 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: that everybody. They're not bumping it up. Heaven forbid. You know, 212 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: the Western Conference Finals ends in six or something. No, 213 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: it's gonna start on June third, on Wednesday. So this 214 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: is a long time. Just like they had a huge 215 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: break between the Sixers and cast series. Yeah, did they 216 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: come out sluggish maybe in Game one, yes, but obviously 217 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: stormed back and they're just gonna try and repeat this. 218 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: But I mean Nicks fans have a whole a whole 219 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: week here, a week plus to convince themselves we can, 220 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: of course win four more games. And at this point, 221 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: I know the talent goes up a level or two 222 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: compared to what you're seeing in the East in neither 223 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: of the Thunder or Spurs. But they're also just playing 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: elite basketball right now on both ends. So it's gonna 225 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: be a competitive series finals, like because we sort of 226 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: thought that a little bit last year with the Pacers, 227 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: even like, wow, how do Pacers get there? They had 228 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: a lot of lucky breaks, say, a lot of injuries 229 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: happened against other teams in the East. They're gonna get 230 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: destroyed by the Thunder, not at all. I mean a 231 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: seven game series where maybe a Hallimerton injury doesn't even 232 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: happen and they win the whole thing. So get ahead 233 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 4: of myself. Can't wait to break that down. But we're 234 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of time to do a deep dive. 235 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: Is gonna be going nuts many he is a week 236 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: to just wax about the Knicks going to the finals. 237 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, that's pretty fun. 238 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson was named the MVP of the series. We 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 4: were I guess lightly debating. Is there any chance for 240 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: anybody else to win this thing? Eastern Conference Finals? MVP? No, 241 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: he got it. He got all nine votes. I believe 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: love seeing some of our guys on the ballot with 243 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: an actual vote. Schumann of course, right, Timmy good Times, 244 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: Von Temps, Dan Devine, give me a hug. 245 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: How about that? 246 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: I mean, just keep going and going. Love that and 247 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: really good. I think they got it right. Brunson didn't 248 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 4: have to play in the fourth quarter, but he averaged 249 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: twenty six point eight sixs and was instrumental in the 250 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: game one comeback. So is James Harden, so was Kenny 251 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: Kenny Akinson not calling time outs and maybe switching up 252 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: the defense. But yeah, Brunson gets it and four more 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: wins and he's the greatest Nick of all time, modern 254 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: day modern day short, yes, yes, yes. 255 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the greatest Nick that anyone alive has 256 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: ever seen play. You could say fair because literally every 257 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: Knicks fan you've ever met has never seen the Knicks 258 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: win a title. 259 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: For the most part, yeah yeah, you're going back a 260 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: long time man seventy seventy three. 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. Unless Hub Brown was a Knicks fan, 262 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess. 263 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: Mike Breen, Mike Breen has. 264 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: That's a great point, your close friend, Mike Breen. 265 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: Yes, what else from this one before we get into 266 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: random notes. 267 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: I will say you mentioned Jaylen Brounson getting it in 268 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: the post game ceremony. I thought the best part of 269 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: post game ceremony was Landry Shammitt getting that huge yell 270 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: and scream from everybody in that arena, just getting the 271 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: support of every Knicks fan in there. Because this is 272 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: a guy who played so good defensively in this series. 273 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: There's questions at the beginning of the season whether or 274 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: not he'd be on the roster. Malcolm Brogden announced his 275 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: retirement and Landry Shammitt was on the roster instead in 276 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: this game. In this series, we all questioned his defense. 277 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: The guy can blow up a pick and roll really 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: really well or hedge and recover. He was doing such 279 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: a good job. I thought the guard guard pick and 280 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: roll combo for the Cavs would help, but Landry Shammitt 281 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: was really really good. So to hear all those Knicks 282 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: fans that was pretty cool, you know, Josh Hart making 283 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: sure it went to l Andry Shammitt to get lots 284 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: of love. That was awesome. 285 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: He was great defensively. He also didn't miss a three 286 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: in the entire series, so pretty good a level. He 287 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: did miss a three. Correction, he was eleven of twelve. 288 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah from Deep. 289 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Swap Wild you swapped Landry Shammitt and Sam Maryll. Like 290 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: if Sam Maryl hit some shots, this is a different 291 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: series over on the other side, Like he needs to 292 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: hit a shot or two in the first, second game, 293 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: the second game. 294 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Merril was brutal. Strus was brutal. The Cavs I 295 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: think shot under thirty percent from three during this entire series. 296 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: The only Nick who didn't shoot the ball well for 297 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: three was Brunton and he got Eastern Conference. Yeah, exactly, 298 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: they had They had five guys in double digits and 299 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: then Shammitt's at nine point eight points per game as well. 300 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: He was ridiculous. It's not just a straight beat down. 301 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Schumann showed on Blue Sky last night. Shammitt has 302 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: some somehow surpassed the Van Vliet after having a kid 303 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: level of playoff shooting. That's where Shamman's at Smitt is that? 304 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: Excuse me? 305 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Van Vleet after he had a kid. 306 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Totally I was thinking exacts thing shoe, thank you for 307 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: your blue sky, thank you for your blue Skotch Shooman. 308 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm going to say this, and I 309 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: don't really want to, but got to give it up 310 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: to James Dolan. In January, he jumps on the radio. 311 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: He says, we want to get to the finals. We 312 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: should win the finals. This is sports. Anything can happen getting. 313 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: To the finals. 314 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: We absolutely have to do winning the finals. We should do. 315 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: You know, this is when the Knicks were like struggling. Yeah, 316 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: is when they had that like that two to nine stretch. 317 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: No a lot of us if you come back and 318 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: watch the No Dunks podcast, we were like, let's not 319 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: freak out here. This is a classic doldrum of the 320 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: NBA season. They're a good team. This happens two really 321 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: good teams. No one thought they were going to rip 322 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: off an eleven game win streak in the postseason. But 323 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: you get my point. But it looked like a bit 324 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: of a kiss of death here from Dolan, like, oh no, 325 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: you stayed so quiet, You've done all the right moves, 326 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: you've been in the background, and why are you saying this? 327 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: But of course it comes true, they're going to the finals. 328 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: And before that, Dolan, by all accounts, spearheaded the firing 329 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: of a very popular coach in Tom Thibodeaux. Dolan said, 330 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: or believe that Tibbs was wearing down his players every season, 331 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: and his hard driving style was sort of having an 332 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: impact maybe on them physically as well as mentally in 333 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: some of these breakdowns that we saw in the losses 334 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: to the Pacers in the postseason two years prior. So 335 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: I guess the third thing is he didn't put up 336 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: the NBA Cup banner, and we said you got to 337 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: respect it. 338 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: James, he said, no. 339 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: Interesting, So right now everything working well for James Dolan 340 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: and Leon Rose and Worldwide West and all these moves they'd. 341 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: Made, do less. You know that turns out to be 342 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: do less and your voice will actually carry some weight 343 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: when it matters. And I guess it did matter with 344 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: the Tibbs thing, because the Knicks talked to every coach available. 345 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: Several coaches got extensions because the Knicks wanted to hire him, 346 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: and eventually they just came around to Mike Brown. He 347 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: didn't change anything, it felt like for eighty nine games, 348 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: and then it was like, wait a second, what if 349 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: everybody touches the ball and it completely changed the way 350 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: the Knicks. This is awesome for them. They might actually 351 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: snap the Cup curse. First team to win the Cup 352 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: and play for the championship and in the same year, do. 353 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: You think Silver is hoping that the Spurs also make 354 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: it out of the West, so it would be a 355 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: rematch of the NBA Cup in the. 356 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: Sure, sure Adam Adam would be the only one happy 357 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: with that. But yeah, this is such an interesting season 358 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: because we all talked about Janisterombo being destined for the 359 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: New York Knicks, and I don't think I'm speaking in 360 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: recency bias, but sure feels like they ain't going to 361 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: do a thing about trying to get yanistd to Goombo. No, no, 362 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: how would they even trade anybody in what circumstances they 363 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: have to get swept off the floor in the finals 364 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: by like thirty five a game, It's unlikely. So that's dead. 365 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: Not with new Carl out there. Carl, I'm loving this guy. 366 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Passes the ball, he's got that deep voice, he plays defense, 367 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: he does literally everything that everyone wanted from Karl Anthony 368 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: Towns from the first ten years of his career. But 369 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: he locked in and it completely changed the way the 370 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: next look, it's awesome. 371 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean all the moves they've made over the 372 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: last couple of years. I mean it starts with Brunson. 373 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: You get Brunson on the obviously, the family discount deal 374 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: was huge and stealing him from the Mavericks, and then 375 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: you know, you start to build around him and everybody going, oh, 376 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: can you win with a guy that's only like six 377 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 4: feet tall. Well, you know, they're at the NBA Finals. 378 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: He's a rock, he's a star. But then all the 379 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 4: things they did, trade a bunch of draft capital for 380 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: Miguil Bridges, who started slowly this postseason and now can't miss. 381 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 4: And we'll show you the graphic, the hilarious graphic that 382 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: they had last night in Game four. Oh, Jannonobie, they 383 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: make that trade big. I mean, this guy's now looking 384 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: more and more healthy. He's throwing down dunks left and 385 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: right here suddenly, yeah, he gets more of a break. 386 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: The Karl Anthony town swapping Julius Randall before the start 387 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: of the season, I mean that was like sort of 388 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. That has worked out, of course, Josh 389 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: Hard they acquired I mean all these pieces they basically 390 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: traded for outside of the Brunson signing, and then you know, 391 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: I guess Mitchell Romson was a draft pick and he 392 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: plays well too. So they've done a great job putting 393 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: this team together, especially around especially around Brunson and Kat 394 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: Limited guys defensively, play hard, try hard, but then just 395 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: surround them by a bunch of like incredible wing defenders 396 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: that can contribute offensively too. It's a good recipe here. 397 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: Yes, and again, going down to to one in that 398 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: first round, that aperture just opened up. I just visualized 399 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: that the transition you see when you're watching something. You 400 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: see the little aperture opened up, and they just started 401 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: using the ball way more around the perimeter, and that 402 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: just got everybody involved on both ends. And then Ogi 403 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: went down with an injury, and there's a little bit 404 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: of worry about that whether or not he'd be back, 405 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: And that's what this Conference finals was also good for 406 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: the fact that you mentioned Oji just getting back to normal. 407 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: Now feels like they're totally healthy. Mitchie Mitch, even as 408 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: a backup, we always questioned his health. YEP, they're totally 409 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: totally stacked and ready for eight days from now. Feels 410 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: like a long time. Feels like we're in the NFL 411 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: where we got a lot of time off for this 412 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: specific team medium row. Yeah so the final or excuse me, 413 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals can only go until Saturday. Yeah, 414 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: so still feels like the NFL. You know, like there's 415 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: a good amount of time, Like there's a. 416 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah if you have like a Pro Bowl in between 417 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: this in the start of the finals all the other Well, 418 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: there's twenty seven teams that are eliminated. Let's see who 419 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: can run the fastest one lane to the other. 420 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: It's a good idea free throw contest. Yeah, sure, totally 421 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: sure contest. Some fun idea is out there? Anything else 422 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: on this game? Again, We're gonna talk about the calves 423 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 4: a little bit later in the show, and we got 424 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: some random notes, but anything else about game four or 425 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: what you saw there. 426 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: I guess this is technically a game note. We got 427 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: close to a weggie. Oh, we got close to a weggie. Oh. 428 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 3: Gana no be blocked at the rim, I think by 429 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: Jared Allen hesitated. It was a ball hesitation, but it 430 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: popped out. They didn't call, didn't call it, didn't call 431 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: us for the jump ball, as was trying to get 432 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: us to count it since we've been such a drought. 433 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: But I mean, it's quite realistic that we make it 434 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: through three round of the playoffs with no wedgies. 435 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: But that was so close, very very close, super close. 436 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into some other random notes from game 437 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: four random. I don't have a ton for this one, 438 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: but let's show you the McHale Bridges graphic that they 439 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: showed during game four. He was shooting sixty nine percent. 440 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: Very nice, sixty nine for one hundred. They were including 441 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 4: that game. They were so excited to show this graphic 442 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: that they were updating his stats mid game four because. 443 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's sixty nine for one hundred. That's 444 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: sixty nine percent. Throw it up. 445 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: So there, that is nice. 446 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: Very Didn't hear Richard Jefferson say nice. 447 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: I was shocked by that's pretty amazing. Yeah, great restraint 448 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 4: by Richard Jefferson. 449 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: Nice, Yeah, he loves it. 450 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: Nice shocking. 451 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: There was the play where Karl Anthony Towns he got 452 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: called for a foul but he thought he had a 453 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: clean steal and went on the fast break through out 454 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: like the windmill cat dunk. They didn't count, like I said, 455 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: But then they showed him and on Cat's jersey. He's 456 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: got the the Jalen Brown like smudge. Was Jalen Brown 457 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: in attendance and wiping his head on everybody there. It 458 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: is nice enhanced JD. So immediately what I thought of, 459 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how he got it though, 460 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure he was asked about it. 461 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, similar location to where Jalen Brown smeared a jersey 462 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: this year. 463 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, a guy on offense like puts his head down 464 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: right and tries to create some room. So who's the 465 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: who's the who's the guilty paint job on the caves? 466 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: You can rule out James Harden, Yeah, you can rule 467 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: out Jared Allen. Yeah, you can rule out all the 468 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: white guys. 469 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. So does that leave Jonavan, Mitchell. 470 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Mitchell, Mobley, and Shrewder You had illness Mitchell or Mobley, 471 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: I would go Mitchell. 472 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: Okay. 473 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: I think him and Jalen Brown are close friends, right, 474 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: they could be sharing hair paint guys. 475 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: Okay, we maybe cracked the case. 476 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: Maybe really good assessment. It's funny because there's two guys 477 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: who have receding hairlines, Like you mentioned James Harden. He 478 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: ain't gonna do it though. Max Struce also has a 479 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: headband on such true it's covering the receiving hairline. 480 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 4: Doesn't have that up there. 481 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: No, the paint job, Yeah, that's great. Who's got Mitchell? 482 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: Who got the boozer? 483 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: We talked about all the celebrities there, or at least 484 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: Spike Lee sitting in the second row and Chalome is there. 485 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: Did you see Shallowy after the game? 486 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: Oh? 487 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It's like living his dream man, literally it's 488 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: his dream I know. 489 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, good for head. 490 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I was like that's pretty cool. 491 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 4: And he's like, of course out there and he's like 492 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: just living it up. 493 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had to. He had to get so famous 494 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: from the time he's like met Landry Fields and Amari 495 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: Stadamier outside of an opera. He had to get so 496 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: famous that he gets a second row and he did it. Yeah, 497 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: that's like a Marty Supreme character arc for him. 498 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: It is. 499 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: I also saw late in this game Tyler Kohlak hit 500 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: a three pointer and Shallome stands up and yells white boy. Yeah. 501 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: It was part of the whole, the whole celebration. That 502 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: was awesome. Just to let him in. Don't pull off 503 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: a messiah Jeri can't be in here type of thing. 504 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: They just let him in and he was part of 505 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: the whole thing. 506 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: Crime if I'm wrong. Sometimes when we do these, you know, 507 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: trophy presentations for let's say a conference finals on the road, 508 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 4: you'll like, you'll do it in like the locker room 509 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: or like in the back. They don't, like, not every 510 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 4: single time. It feels like, maybe do it on on 511 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: the floor. But they're like, well, look at we got 512 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: a lot of Knicks fans here. Because there was a 513 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: lot of people on the court. They're gonna kill us 514 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: if they get to take the court. 515 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can vividly remember the visual 516 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: of all those teams on the road in front of 517 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: this big curtain. Yeah that's in the hallway right, Yeah, 518 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: And it's not I. 519 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: Know they have done it of course on the floor 520 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: too at times, but not all the time. But they're 521 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 4: like they must be like, yeah, look at all the 522 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: Knicks fans here, let's go, let's do it. Just do 523 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 4: it out here. What else you got? 524 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: I got a few, Like we talked about the as 525 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: didn't let New York Knicks celebrities sit courtside, and apparently 526 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: court side ticket holders had to sign a DOCU sign 527 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: from the Calves saying that they wouldn't sell their court 528 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: side seats or else they'd be banned for life from 529 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Calves games. Yeah that's crazy. 530 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, relaxed, Dave Gilbert, Dave was going in. 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: They did they did something. The Caves at least did something. 532 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 3: They did something. They did, they did, So what are 533 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: you talking about? They prevented them from sitting in the 534 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: front row or not. 535 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: I know who cares, but it could have been way worse. 536 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean if they're sitting in the Yeah, I'm t 537 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: having I'm flashing back to other things with other fans. 538 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: But let's not get into that. But no, isn't that 539 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: in a bit of an accomplishment. Isn't that it's something 540 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: they did something. 541 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: Dan Gilbert should have to pay all of those people 542 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: that had front row tickets that he basically said, you 543 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: cannot sell these. The Knicks fans, he should have to 544 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: pay them back for all the money they lost after 545 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: that performance from his team in Game four. 546 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very unfortunate. But he did bring twenty five 547 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: buses worth of fans in the previous round, so I 548 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: did something he did. 549 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: He did and he tweets. He tweeted his class, you know, 550 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: like we got a step further, but we're not even 551 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: close or we need to make some drastic moves again. 552 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: We'll get to that later in the yep, yep. 553 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: There was apparently one happy Cavs fan last night. A 554 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: kid named Cooper hit a half court shot. Okay, one 555 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: ten k oh? Congratulations you leave that game? Are you saying? 556 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: Awesome game? I made a half court shot and won 557 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars. Got bothered by forty points. He said 558 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: he's a kid. How old is a kid man? You know, 559 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: in his twenties, early twenties. 560 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: He's gone, sure, sure, he's first off, they've won titles. 561 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: You know you had Lebron so true. 562 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 563 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great for him, two thousand dollars. 564 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: It's a good day for Cooper, great day for Cooper, Coop. 565 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: One last note from the NBA Cup. Remember the postgame celebration, 566 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: Heart literally shoved his thumb in Jalen Brunson's butt. Yes, 567 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: that was part of their celebration. This time, Josh Hart 568 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: was being interviewed John Brownson just smacked his head so 569 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: he didn't get back in him by sticking anything and 570 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 2: just wrecked him. 571 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: So that it looked like he smoked him. Hit them hard, Yeah, 572 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: hard to do it. I think they do that a 573 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 4: lot to each other. Like, Okay, I know who did that. 574 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: That was JB slapping me as I walk over to 575 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: Lisa Salters. 576 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: Yea, they were fighting. It was also cute I thought 577 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: when Mike Brown like got to talk to Lisa Salters 578 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: and he's walking over and they all just start going Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. 579 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: Did the Nuggets do that with Michael Michael alone? 580 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: He hates being I know, but I mean I feel like, 581 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 4: if you're Mike after finding Nemeal, yeah, you're gonna get 582 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: a lot of Mike Mike Mike. Also, did you see 583 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: uh the halftime show inside last night Shaq and Kenny 584 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 4: Uh singing Sinatra doing the rockets like or whatever. As 585 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: they were like basically dancing on the graves of the caves. Yeah, 586 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 4: they were right. The lead was cut to sixteen, but 587 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: then it was quickly back to twenty plus. 588 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: Barkley did the definition of yeah quit quit. 589 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, like cavaliers for whatever they were, they knew it. 590 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: They were. They were convinced there was no comeback in this. 591 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: And then my final note was, I don't know if 592 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: you guys caught this Mike Breen doing a clash in 593 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: Italy w W E ad Reid and he said it 594 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 4: was a great honor to do that. He always wanted 595 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: to do that. I think he said like a w 596 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 4: W ad read. And then Richard Jefferson shared his favorite wrestler. 597 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: Did you hear who his favorite wres? 598 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: No? 599 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 600 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Current? 601 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 602 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: Current? 603 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 4: Oh, current current favorite wrestler. Here we go, good trivia question. 604 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: It's not Housen. 605 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: No, not Dan Housen. But the curse is powerful, man. 606 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: Wow, undefeated since he lefted the curse and the Cavs 607 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: got swept, it's very powerful. It actually might be powerful. 608 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: I hate to admit it. 609 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard Jefferson, Yeah, favorite. 610 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to get it on your 611 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: first guest, So I'm just going to tell you it's 612 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: a female wrestler. 613 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: Okay, uh, I mean it gets it down to the man. No, good, 614 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Becky Lynch, good, Jade Cargill. Is that what is? 615 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 2: No? 616 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: But very strong? Okay, very strong? Nia Jackson. 617 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: You're missing the one man. Australians Australian Ripley. 618 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I forgot. She's good. 619 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 4: She is great. He's probably one of my favorites, all right. 620 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. A couple of other things. Apparently Matt Mike Brown 621 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: made a Sad Nicks mix for all of these guys 622 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: to watch ahead of the conference finals, like plays from 623 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: last year's conference finals, them losing against the Indiana Pacers, 624 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: but also just like close up shots of them looking 625 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: sad as they came off the court. Okay, I think 626 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: that's a pretty interesting motivational technique, right, don't forget that moment. 627 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: You don't want to be back here, you don't want 628 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: to be this sad ever again. But I don't know 629 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: if they were showing us the actual video or like 630 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: dramatization of what the video could be. But obviously Tom 631 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Thibodeo is in it. I feel like that's kind of 632 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: rubbed in his face a little bit. Brown. And the 633 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: last thing was, uh, Josh Hart called out some reporter 634 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: for eating chicken wings during the press conference. He's like, 635 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: I see, you're supposed to be asking questions, you're sucking 636 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: on your fingers. Those chicken wings look like they're hitting, though. 637 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: We don't know who. 638 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: I couldn't figure it out. I couldn't figure out who 639 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: brought the wings to the. 640 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm interested. 641 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, who took the wings? Let us know Dan Devine. 642 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, or Schumann or whoever was there. 643 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: It could have been that meeting the wings. 644 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 645 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: No, I can't see those two eating wings after a 646 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: press at a press conference, No way, They're too professional, 647 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: those guys, I would have to degree. 648 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: I've only ever seen John Schuman eat tacos, but I've 649 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: seen him meat tacos a handful of times, more than 650 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: you would imagine. Wow. 651 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw me noodles once too. 652 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna need a lot of meals, but never 653 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: at a press conference. 654 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's different. That's different. All right, let's take 655 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: a break, and when we come back, we will talk 656 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: about the Cavaliers off season decisions. There are a few. 657 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: All right. 658 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Let's build a parlay for ok CEE Spurs Game five, 659 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: because FanDuel is giving you better payouts on same game 660 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: parlays all NBA Playoffs. Long parlay position one. Lou Dort 661 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: to make the first basket of the game. Yeah, I'm 662 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: doing that. Wow, he did in game two the series. 663 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: So this is their first time back and Okay, see 664 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: that's where he last did it? 665 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: Is that the one where he drove He drove inside 666 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: on that one? 667 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? And mid range? 668 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I. 669 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: Think yeah, I think so too. Parlay position two, Chet 670 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: Holmgren eight plus rebounds he's done in two of the 671 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: four games he's coming off one. I think he can 672 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: do that. Parlay position three. I'm definitely going more conservative 673 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: after that crazy lud dort one. Cason Wallas two plus 674 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: may threes not asking a lot, Yes, two plus May threes. 675 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Parlay position for Stefon Castle six plus assists seems easy. 676 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: Plus fifty four to fifty three is what pace all risky? Yeah, 677 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: be over Over is probably gonna win the tip. 678 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna need to stop. That's a great one. 679 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: Stop. 680 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: Lou's gonna hit a shot. Wow, We'll see from spreads 681 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: to player points, to threes and more. Build it all 682 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: into one same game. Parlay and go for bigger payouts, 683 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: more options, better payouts. All NBA playoffs along head to 684 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: the FanDuel sportswok app. FanDuel Official partner of the NBA 685 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: Player Game. 686 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: Okay, let's uh, speaking of playing games, let's play fill 687 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: in the blank. It's been a hot minute since we 688 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: played fill in the blank, But I got a few 689 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: fun fill in the blank questions for you guys, and 690 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: the first one has to do with the Cavaliers. Let's 691 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: just get right to it. The Cavaliers' biggest off season 692 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: decision is blank. 693 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: So whether or not they copy exactly what the Knicks 694 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: did last season and fired Tom to Tom Thibida and 695 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: fire Kenny Atkinson immediately. I think they have to do that. 696 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: In me, wow, today, I honestly am looking at the 697 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: days as to they lose on Monday. How many days 698 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: does it take them. I think that's the biggest thing 699 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: they should and have to do because of how much 700 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: money they have tied up in their roster. It is 701 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: locked up all over the place, and so you want 702 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: a coach to come in and try and get a 703 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: little bit more from Evan Mobley. You want somebody to 704 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: ask James Harden to move off the ball just a 705 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: little bit. Obviously there's gonna be some roster questions. Can 706 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 2: there be a Lebron James coming for a cheap and 707 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: what Kobe Altman can do, but there's just so limited 708 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it has to emulate exactly what the Knicks did. 709 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: See it, Tom, see it, Kenny. I think I think 710 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: those two things have to have to happen. That's the 711 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: only way I think they can motivate this group after 712 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: what they did in Game one of the Eastern Conference 713 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: Finals because they are handcuffed. They are, and so yeah, 714 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: you can to the Harden and get into the Lebron 715 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: part of it, but I think that's what you gotta do, 716 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: because the roster's going to be very similar. 717 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the roster can be very similar if they want 718 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: it to. But highest payroll in the league for the 719 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: Cavs this year and they finish the playoffs under five 720 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: hundred eight and ten, literally the worst record you can 721 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: have if you make the conference finals, and they're going 722 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: to want to be under the second aprom So I 723 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: kind of agree with you task that most likely they 724 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: run it back, bring back a new coach, and try 725 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: and tinker around the edges since they don't have a 726 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: ton of stuff available and their twenty thirty two pick 727 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: is even frozen because of this season. But the biggest 728 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: question for me is what to do about Donovan Mitchell 729 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: and is it time to move on because he's eligible 730 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: for an extension this year, he'll be thirty at the 731 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: start of next season, he's available. He will have a 732 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: four year, two hundred and seventy two million dollar deal 733 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: available to him over the summer. If he wants to 734 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: wait until the summer. At twenty twenty seven, it goes 735 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: to five years, three hundred and fifty two million dollars, 736 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: could maybe even add a no trade clause. At that point, 737 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: you just have to think how far can a Donovan 738 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: and Mitchell team really go? Because he finally made the 739 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: conference finals this year, I think this was one of 740 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: his worst playoff runs that we've seen so far. He's 741 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: obviously getting older. If he comes back, they're going to 742 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: want to bring back Harden as well. Like you're saying, 743 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: they're pretty hamstrung with what they can actually do. Maybe 744 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: it would be a Jared Allen trade or something like that. 745 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: So I think the Caves really need to think about 746 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 3: seriously building around Evan Mobley versus Mitchell this summer. To 747 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: me comes down to which direction are we picking, Sticking 748 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: with the open aperture that the Calves have right now 749 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 3: building around Mitchell, or looking a little bit further to 750 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: the future and re orienting the team around Evan Mobley. 751 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: It's risky, risky trying to build around Evan Mobley. 752 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's risky trying to build around Donovan Mitchell too. 753 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: He's made the conference finals once and still has zero 754 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 3: wins in the conference finals. 755 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't disagree. 756 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: So he may have played the best of all the 757 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 4: guys that played in the conference. 758 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: I think this was a good seat like Mitchell. 759 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: No, I don't I on that definitely up and down. 760 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: But I don't think he was the reason by any 761 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 4: means that they're not winning the game against the Knicks. 762 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: So really, score one basket in the fourth quarter of 763 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 3: Game one and you win a game. Yeah, probably, but 764 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: he wasn't good enough as the one A guy. I 765 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: don't think this year Okay. 766 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know Mobley. Did Mobley have 767 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 4: a good playoff series? 768 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: I think he. I think his reputation improved the most 769 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: this playoffs from everybody on the Cavs. Number two Jared Allen. 770 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the scary part with Donovan Mitchell is him and 771 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: Harden together not great defensively as guards to lead your team, 772 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: and Mitchell obviously has to give up the ball a 773 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: ton to Harden and just that whole chemistry. That's why 774 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm more buying into Key Harden around because he didn't 775 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: play bad at all, even though there was some bad moments. 776 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 4: And we're not doing this again with James Harden at 777 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 4: this point. Well, I mean, I'm not saying he's the 778 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: reason either, but he's not like he was good. He 779 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: was good for a lot of the reason they lost 780 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: Game one. 781 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Because of his defense. 782 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: Yes, and it's no fault of his own. It's no fault. 783 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 4: We knew this for fifteen years. 784 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: If you have a guy beside him, if Dean Wade 785 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: wants to fight over a pick, which isn't even a pick, 786 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: it's just me going up to you and just throwing 787 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: my body at you like this, if he does that, 788 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: if they have more of that fire in that loge. 789 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: James Harden doesn't have that fire. 790 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying I'm he's not got to defend it. 791 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: The defenders are going to be around him. We all 792 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 2: know that. Yeah. What options do they have with James Harden, Well, obviously. 793 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: He's got fire options, So there are decisions to make. 794 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 4: I assume they have some sort of like handshake deal 795 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 4: when he went to Cleveland, So maybe it's going to 796 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 4: be longer term deal on cheaper money. That'd be a 797 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 4: good start. I guess I'm not saying like he's the 798 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: reason and get rid of him by any means, but also, 799 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 4: like we've seen this time and time again, especially when 800 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 4: the toy the going gets tough, he gets going, he's like, 801 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 4: all right, he has he has no very little fight 802 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: in him at this point, especially with his age. They quit. 803 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 4: They quit obviously, they gave away game one at the end. 804 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 4: That's they quit at the end of game three, and 805 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 4: they didn't have much spirit in game four. Yeah, right, 806 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 4: and that's your leaders, and your leaders last I checked, 807 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: are Mitchell and James Harden. 808 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: So that's part of it for sure. That's why I 809 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: think you start with a coach and try and hope 810 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: you get a little bit more out of the players, 811 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: and not just those two guys, but everybody around them. Again, 812 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: the Dean Wade the small forward position. We know, if 813 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: you've got Mitchell and you're playing with Mitchell and Harden, 814 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 2: you've got to have the fire in the shorts of 815 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: your small forward to be able to fight. And they 816 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: gave up Darius Garland for James Harden because Garland had 817 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: not performed in the playoffs, Hardened at least, at the 818 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: very least, helped get them to the conference finals. I 819 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: don't know how long they keep him around, but it 820 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: just feels like I'm not giving up on Mitchell at 821 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: the very least. Who was in those locks, in those huddles, 822 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: trying to get everybody going. It didn't happen. But I 823 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: start with a coach and we'll see how much they 824 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: pay Harden. I mean, that's a big question. Shouldn't give 825 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: him but jillion dollars in the money that you said 826 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 2: for Mitchell also a little scary. That's a big amount 827 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: of money starts to go. 828 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 4: It's now, no, it's like thirty million. Though it's like 829 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: a little different. I'm saying, like when Mobley and him 830 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: were making X amount of money, which is a lot cheaper, 831 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: it's a little more easy to stomach. Now it gets 832 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 4: more expensive and you're going to start, of course winning 833 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: and at least competing for titles. But maybe people are 834 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 4: saying they are sort of competing for titles getting to 835 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: the conference finals. I mean, this is good news if 836 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: you're a Cavs fan. Saw this going around a lot 837 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 4: last night. A little shred of hope. The Knicks are 838 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 4: going to be the fourth straight Eastern Conference Finals loser 839 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 4: to make the finals the next year. They follow the Pacers, 840 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 4: the Celtics, and the Heat. So if that trend continues 841 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 4: and the Caves are looking good, I would have very 842 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 4: little faith in the Calves being in the finals next 843 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 4: year unless there is maybe a very drastic move, and 844 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: maybe that's honest, you know, maybe it's someone else. Of course, 845 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 4: Lebron plays a part in this equation, maybe coming maybe 846 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: if he's going to give the hometown discount or something 847 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: like that. 848 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 3: Even then, though, they got to slice some guys off 849 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: of role, so I think ls, Wade, Shrewder, these are 850 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: all guys who could not be Calves next year, and 851 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't think any of them were all that important 852 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: to them. That's an upgrade position at the very least. 853 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 3: So maybe it is Lebron. If they decide to bring 854 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 3: back Mitchell and Harden, I think they are a package, duel, 855 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 3: a deal together, like if Mitchell wants to sign an extension, 856 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: Harden will get a one plus one next year and 857 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: then a player option. That's just what he's been signing. 858 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: If that happens, they got a trade Jared Allen just 859 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 3: to get like a real fifth starter. Yeah, they've been 860 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 3: looking for a fifth starter for a couple of years now, 861 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: So I would I would get out of the Allen business. 862 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 3: I would bring in a wing for him. Maybe they 863 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: can get a pick, or maybe it's two players like PJ. 864 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: Washington Daniel Gafford. Would be an awesome trade for the 865 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: Calves to bring in Gafford as a backup big to 866 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: Mobile playing the number one center role. You can play 867 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 3: them together a little bit and then PJ. Washington can 868 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 3: kind of slide between the three and the fourth. That 869 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 3: would do wonders for them. So yeah, I guess if 870 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: they are still in the Mitchell business, they should still 871 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: be a top four team in the Eastern Conference. That 872 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 3: gives you a chance to make it conference finals like 873 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 3: they did this year, and then maybe you shoot better 874 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: than thirty percent. 875 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: For three next year. Yeah. And it was a good 876 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: move to get rid of DeAndre Hunter because that was 877 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: a monster amount of money that they're going to owe 878 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 2: him next season. So that was great, But they still 879 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: are paying Shrewder for two more seasons. That's unfortunate. Part 880 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: of that deal. The key on ellis part where are 881 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 2: you going to pay him more money? I think if 882 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: you're looking at internal growth, you're hoping Jalen Tyson grows 883 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: into a better player because he's still young, he still could, 884 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: He's still good, but he's got to develop a shot. 885 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of questions here around the cast, but 886 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 4: you guys see him on board that Kenny Eckinton may 887 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 4: not be here. 888 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: This week for the rest of the summer right alone. 889 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: This cat is right, Yeah, yeah, that's high. 890 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: You think he buried himself when he did the old Analytically, 891 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 4: we've won two out of three. I guess out of 892 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 4: four because I think I'm going to give the not 893 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 4: analytically to the Knicks in game four. It's a tie series. 894 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 4: In Kenny's mind. 895 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: It's a real Darryl Morey move, you know. Out with 896 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: the old in with the young blood. There's gotta be 897 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: somebody younger, scrappier well who likes numbers but also just 898 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: tries to get his guys a little bit more motivated. 899 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily a young guy. I 900 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 2: never thought of this, but who is Who's is replacing Kenny? 901 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: That's for another episode. 902 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 4: James Harden, By the way, had some fun quotes after 903 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 4: yesterday's loss. Yeah, it was four to zero, but we 904 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: didn't give ourselves a chance. Genuinely, I think we are 905 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 4: the better team. He went on to say so in 906 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 4: Harden's heart, just like Kenny, they're sort of in this. 907 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: Thing so close. If you don't look at the score, yeah, yeah, 908 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: it was close. If you don't look at this, that's 909 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: a great way to look at it. Right there. 910 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 4: It's amazing. All right, Moving off the cass, We'll be 911 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: talking about them, I'm sure a lot more in the 912 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: coming weeks. All right, let's get pivotal, baby. The Spurs 913 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 4: throttled the Thunder one O three eighty two in Game 914 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 4: four of the West Finals on Sunday. The series heads 915 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 4: back to OKC tonight, where the reigning champs will try 916 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 4: to defend home court and keep their back to back 917 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 4: title hopes alive. So let's preview this in filling the blank. 918 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 3: TK. 919 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 4: One thing to watch for in tonight's Western Conference Finals 920 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 4: Game five. 921 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: Is the Thunders number two man number two? Who is it? Literally, 922 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: who's the thunders number two man? 923 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 4: Not AJ Mitchell? 924 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: Aj Mitchell is out JDub listed as questionable, though they 925 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 3: changed his injury designation from hamstring soreness to hamstring strain. 926 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 3: That doesn't make me think he's coming back. No, that 927 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 3: sounds worse. It sounds worse. 928 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 2: It's left ham string semi colon, injury management, dash strain. 929 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah they added strained. 930 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeahah, injury management. 931 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 3: That's two pieces of punctuation one injury diagnosis. 932 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: Huh yeah great. Yeah. 933 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 3: But that's the question for the Thunder is who's going 934 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: to be the number two guy? In Game three, it 935 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 3: was Jared McCain who went for twenty four, bombing away 936 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: from three. I think the entire bench was the number 937 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 3: two man. In game two. You could also throw in 938 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein, just Maul and Wemby for forty eight minutes. 939 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: There's a couple. There's a lot of good role player performances. 940 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 3: I thought in the game two win for the Thunder. 941 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: But I don't know who it's gonna be. Maybe it'll 942 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: be Caruso. Maybe they run more pick and roll, just 943 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: allow him to create inside. If they're gonna be I 944 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 3: think they will double shay a little. That didn't a 945 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 3: ton in game four. But uh, maybe Cruzo can be 946 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: a playmaker. Maybe Caseen Wallace can be a playmaker. Maybe 947 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 3: it's just being back in Oklahoma City. We can shoot 948 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: threes like we did in game two. But you have 949 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 3: to wonder we'll number seven show up. That's Chet Holmgrend. 950 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: Eleven points per game, six rebounds per game, shooting forty 951 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 3: seven from the field thirty three from three thirty three 952 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 3: doesn't sound that bad. He's taken nine threes in four games. 953 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 3: Big Jalen Williams has taken nineteen. Just shoot him, chit, 954 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 3: just shoot the ball. I would like to see him 955 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 3: at least go out trying, you know. I think that 956 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: fire him up. Even if you go three for ten, 957 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 3: I'm happy to see that. And also maybe number two 958 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: could have a big game. He hasn't yet. Shay's been 959 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: kind of struggling. 960 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: On this series. 961 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 3: In the play the one on one one is interesting 962 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: because after I guess three games, people are saying, oh man, 963 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: JJ Reddick gave everybody the recipe on how to guard 964 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 3: shake Gilders Alexander double them all the time, and the 965 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 3: Spurs went and singled him for an entire game and 966 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 3: blew them out. So I wonder what Shay's response will 967 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 3: be to seeing different defenses. 968 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: I do want to see whether the thunder just go 969 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: home and some of those threes just fall. Because I 970 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: went back and watched every single one of those threes, 971 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: a lot of it was just out of rhythm, out 972 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: of the flow, because the Spurs got them there, and 973 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: so maybe it's different at home. That could very well happen. 974 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 2: It is scary that both Aj Mitchell and Jalen Wilmans 975 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: might not be playing. We'll see about Jalen Williams specifically, 976 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: no doubt, but some of those guys, like you said, 977 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: Jay will those threes could go down here like somebody, somebody, 978 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: because none of those guys shot well, none of them. 979 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: Kenrich Williams hit a couple threes. Kenrich Williams, Isaiah Joe 980 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: did hit a couple threes to end the game. Look 981 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: into the heavens. But maybe they're just better at home. 982 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 2: So regardless of who is playing, I think home can 983 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 2: change that and we'll have more of a battle in general. 984 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird at this point. It feels I don't 985 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 4: want to put words in your guy's mouth here, but 986 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 4: it's like you have more confidence in what the Spurs 987 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 4: are or what their identity is and what you're getting 988 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 4: from web Minyama sort of at this point where the 989 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: Thunder without some of these other secondary facilitators and creators, 990 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: it's like it's a bit of a wild card, even 991 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 4: though they have the two time MVP and SGA, who 992 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 4: I think will have a better game here tonight than 993 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 4: he did in Game four, I think numbers wise and 994 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: his impact on the game. But yeah, it's like the 995 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 4: Spurs with their defense and the way they're playing as 996 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 4: a unit, it's just a little more established. I have 997 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 4: a little more confidence right now we're going to get 998 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 4: from them where the wild card or the Thunder with 999 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 4: all these guys you're thrown out there, Caruso, dort Wallace, 1000 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 4: any of the Williams that are playing or not playing. 1001 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean this is a huge one. Like 1002 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 4: I don't know if we say this all the time, 1003 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 4: but does feel like who wins tonight's game will probably 1004 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: win the series because they're still fairly evenly matched and 1005 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: you're gonna get a couple of cracks at trying to 1006 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 4: put a team to bed. 1007 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. It definitely feels like the Spurs 1008 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: head are more comfortable. We all sort of believe in 1009 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 2: what they have. There was a reason I think Mark 1010 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: Dagnall sat Shae for the entire fourth quarter of Game 1011 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: four was to just have those guys see some shots 1012 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: go down, like Isaiah Joe did. I know, they don't 1013 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: necessarily want to use Isaiah Joe in general, but because 1014 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: of all these injuries, they may have to. They just 1015 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: need to see a couple. But Crusoe could have a 1016 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: bounce back game. I mean, he needs to be back 1017 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: to what he was earlier in. 1018 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 4: This very wide in Game four. Yeah, one shot, yeah, crazy, Yes, 1019 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 4: after the impact he had early in the series. 1020 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they were giving him open shots for 1021 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 3: three straight games. 1022 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've decided, okay, switch it up, take away 1023 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 4: all the other guys and see if SGA can sort 1024 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,479 Speaker 4: of beat mainly Castle and obviously wemby roaming like good luck. 1025 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 4: I mean SGA is just going to have to have 1026 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: that mid range going and he can get to it 1027 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 4: and he gets his looks, but he's got to drop 1028 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 4: here tonight if they're gonna take game five. 1029 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: Or check check a little bit, you know, little bit. 1030 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 4: My confidence in Chad has faded. 1031 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1032 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 3: Well, and I mean that's the problem for the Thunder 1033 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: right now is they're down three second options, whoever it 1034 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: may be. Chad is not playing well. I think it 1035 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 3: would be a surprise if he has an outstanding game. 1036 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: But if he does, thunder Win, no Jada, no Mitchell. 1037 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 3: Those are three guys who could be carrying the offense 1038 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 3: when Shay sits, because they're doing well when Shay is playing. 1039 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: But I mean also the Spurs are doing well when 1040 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: Wemby's playing. Plus fifty I. 1041 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 4: Think, yeah, four games. Yeah, that's the other whole part 1042 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 4: of this equation. What if Wemby just decides no, this 1043 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 4: is the series. Tonight, let's go Bersark again and we 1044 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 4: have another monster Monster game Bury in play. Can't wait? 1045 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 4: Game five tonight eight thirty on NBC Slash Peacock. All right, 1046 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 4: next one here, I will stick with Wemby. This was 1047 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 4: a random note. Maybe we forgot to address on yesterday's 1048 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 4: show Victor Weminyama's shoes that he wore in game four. 1049 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 4: He brought back these Nike GT Hustle three pees in 1050 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 4: game four. The pair is obviously inspired by cows, a 1051 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 4: clear nod to the running trope of aliens abducting cows. 1052 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 4: Says be unique every day written on the tongue there too, 1053 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 4: so there's a look for everybody on YouTube. Task started 1054 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 4: filling the blank. Wemby's cowprint shoes are Texas. 1055 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: Texas has the most cattle in the US twelve million 1056 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: cattle and calves in the state of Texas. Wow, that's 1057 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: that's double the second most of any state. 1058 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 4: It's a lot of a lot of Texas. 1059 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: Man, that's Texas. I forgot. I didn't realize that he 1060 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 2: had him earlier. 1061 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, before, for sure. Couple of times. Cows are 1062 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 4: Do you like them? 1063 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: I don't love them? 1064 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 4: Now you don't like cows? 1065 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 2: I like cows more than horses. Hell yeah, brother, cows 1066 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: are cool. I guess Okay, what. 1067 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 4: Do you think the hero like throwbacks to me? 1068 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 3: Because a cow being inducted by an alien that's like 1069 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: something you'd see on National Inquiry nineteen fifties. Yeah, and 1070 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 3: these are kind of like a higher cut shoe adds 1071 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 3: to the throwback vibe. 1072 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And like I do like the green 1073 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 4: I guess is almost like the tractor beam, like taking 1074 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 4: up the cow that the is that the idea there? 1075 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, totally. 1076 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: So you're a fan. 1077 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: Ish I'm an Ish fan. 1078 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Like do you think they should mass produce 1079 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: these and would people buy these? 1080 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 3: Okay, No, these shoes are sitting. 1081 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. That's not gonna be the Wemby shoe. 1082 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can still get the Wenby Halloween shoes on 1083 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 3: Nike if you want. 1084 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 4: Okay, that's pretty good though. 1085 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he also is good. I can't deny it. 1086 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, as a shoe. 1087 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, his pees are cool. 1088 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 4: But he does not have his own signature shoe yet. 1089 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 4: We're waiting on that. You would think that's coming. The 1090 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 4: Wemby's interesting. 1091 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 3: Would they sell a guy shoes don't usually sell. 1092 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,479 Speaker 4: No, they don't, but he's sort of special. He's special. Yeah, 1093 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: I sort of think they would, and like if they 1094 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 4: lean into the alien angle and the futuristic or whatever 1095 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 4: they are. Yeah, we'll see. I'm sure they are printing 1096 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 4: them or making them right now. Final one here more 1097 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 4: be related topics. Serious XM NBA radio host Justin Termine 1098 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 4: revealed Monday that he was the lone voter who left 1099 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 4: Wemby off his first team All NBA ballot, and said 1100 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 4: he did so because he doesn't fill out a positionless ballot. Okay. 1101 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 4: In a video posted to social media, Termine made it 1102 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 4: clear this was not a slight on Wemby. He wanted 1103 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 4: to make that very clear. I love the boy, but 1104 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: more of a I love the kid, right, oh yes, 1105 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 4: but more of a philosophy because of historical precedent. I 1106 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 4: think that was justin Termine's like sort of main point here. 1107 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 4: It's like a three minute video. Seek it out, fill 1108 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 4: in the blank, TK, get it started. Justin Termine. Leaving 1109 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 4: Wemby off all NBA first team is blank. 1110 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 3: Ridiculous, but it was understandable. I'm glad that he made 1111 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 3: a case because when he ended up on the second team, 1112 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 3: I literally said, who's the one person who left him 1113 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 3: off the TA You just stated it, and apparently it 1114 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 3: was justin Termany. 1115 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, maybe excuse me. 1116 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: Anyways, I don't know. This to me is the same 1117 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 3: as like people getting upset when they were going to 1118 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: cancel student debt and they're like, but all these people 1119 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 3: had to have student debt back in the day. It's 1120 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 3: not fair that we have to pay off our student debt. 1121 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 3: So it's not fair to Patrick Ewing being left off 1122 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 3: the ninety four team. So Wemby, it's not fair to 1123 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 3: him now that he's getting left off the first team 1124 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 3: when he was clearly a top five player this year. 1125 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 3: So he's got his rules, he's sticking to it, but 1126 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 3: these aren't the rules. 1127 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's basically saying, in so many words, Patrick Ewing 1128 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 4: got screwed, so out of fairness, I will. 1129 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: Personally screw over Wemby. 1130 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1131 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: It's like very weird. 1132 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 4: It's a little ass backwards, but yeah, okay, they changed 1133 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 4: the voting system to avoid the very thing that you're saying, 1134 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 4: screwed Patrick Ewing. And they're a little different because we're 1135 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 4: talking about like Wemby on the second or first team. 1136 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 4: You know, Ewing was literally bumped from any right all 1137 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 4: NBA team because of the center designation and all the 1138 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 4: great centers at the time, So you know, it's a 1139 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: little different that way. But he explained it. What's your 1140 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 4: takeaway to this. 1141 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 2: There's no need to watch the video of him explaining it. Really, 1142 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 2: we just explained it. He's voting like a senior citizen. 1143 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what it is. There's no real 1144 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 2: reason to do that. There's no real reason to discount 1145 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: Victor Wembinham and how good he is. As simple as that. 1146 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 2: It's evolved. I say senior citizen because the voting has evolved, 1147 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: the game has evolved. Guys are basically positionless in a way. Yeah, 1148 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 2: Wemby plays the center, if you want to call it that, 1149 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 2: but he's one of the best five players, one of 1150 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 2: the best three players. A lot of his defense was 1151 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: I voted him third as MVP in the MVP ballot, 1152 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: so that kind of gives me. I don't know, he's 1153 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 2: defending himself. 1154 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 4: I thought had to be I want to do this 1155 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 4: the old school way, that I have to have a 1156 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 4: center too, forwards and two guards. And I think Jokich 1157 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 4: is justin saying I want Yokich as my center on 1158 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 4: the first team because he had a better regular season 1159 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 4: than Wemby as the center. But even though we change 1160 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 4: the rules so you didn't have to do that, he 1161 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 4: really wants to stick to that. Yeah, And he thinks 1162 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 4: a big part of it has to do with how 1163 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 4: we look at the NBA over a season and the 1164 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 4: historical president, like I said, that's his thinking. 1165 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: The historical president to take him off that first All 1166 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: NBA team, that doesn't make a lot of sense. And 1167 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm the biggest Yokich fan in the world. But his 1168 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 2: season wasn't as good as Wemby's At the end of 1169 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 2: the day, Jokic got hurt. He wasn't himself after being hurt. 1170 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: The Spurs had a better record put Wemby on the 1171 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: first team, and it's unfortunately he's the only one to 1172 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 2: put him on the second team because he is the 1173 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: only one who has to go out and defend himself, right, I. 1174 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 4: Mean, I know there's a lot of outrage about this. 1175 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,439 Speaker 2: He is on the first team. 1176 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like at the end of the day. 1177 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 4: It actually doesn't matter at all at all. I mean, 1178 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: he's on the first team and no one's gonna remember 1179 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 4: that he wasn't unanimous first team selection in twenty twenty 1180 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 4: five to twenty six seasons. No one will care or remember. 1181 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 4: So but you know, I look, I'll give him this. 1182 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 4: He blamed his reasoning, he defended himself. Is this You 1183 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 4: can still say it's stupid, but you know he did 1184 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 4: explain it. 1185 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: Is this good for NBA radio, the fact that one 1186 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: of their hosts got some. 1187 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 4: Publicity, Well that's what people think he did it for. 1188 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe yeah, because. 1189 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 4: You get to do this and you get a fill 1190 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 4: in the blank question on no Ducks mission accomplished. 1191 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he would have come up with a 1192 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: video earlier, you know, like done something big. I mean 1193 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 2: they did come up with that graphic where he's pointing 1194 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 2: to his Oh yeah, he's pointing to him putting Wemby 1195 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 2: on the second team. There's my one. See I did that. Yeah, okay, 1196 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm tuning it too NBA Radio now because I saw justin. 1197 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 4: Termany, Termany, excuse me. 1198 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if that no. 1199 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 4: I think after I said it, I was like, that's 1200 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 4: not right. I've seen clips of his I am not 1201 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 4: a listener of Sirius XMMBA radio, but. 1202 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 3: A lot of clips going on. I've only heard Simmons 1203 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 3: say his name. Yeah, he's a Simmons regular. I thought 1204 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 3: the reason was going to be the minutes you know, 1205 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 3: Yo gets played four hundred more minutes. I thought that 1206 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 3: was gonna be the reason. I don't know if that's 1207 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 3: better or worse than. 1208 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wanted to make a pun, a terminal pun 1209 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 2: like that idea is terminal, it's dead. It didn't work out. 1210 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 2: We had the frank Iy Sola, who's also going to 1211 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 2: be a radio. That whole thing happened a few weeks ago. 1212 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 4: Remember Kenny Beacham Beach legit group. 1213 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 2: Sola and Brian Scalabrini lost an hour on the air. 1214 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 4: Beach them Serious XMMBA radio is having a moment. 1215 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I just got noticed that 1216 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 2: I've got two three weeks of serious radio? Is that? 1217 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 2: Why are they doing it? 1218 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 3: Like right now? 1219 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 2: The final it's like four till like June fifth or something. 1220 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 2: It's just a weird time. I got to say, those 1221 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: kids are off school. That's exactly it. Kids off school. 1222 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: This the beginning of summer. 1223 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 3: Kick off the summer with serious satellite radio. 1224 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked. I told that I'm cranking. Did it work? 1225 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: Are listening Serious? 1226 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to the U two Serious? 1227 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 4: He's my top five U two songs. 1228 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: Good, that's a good call. 1229 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 3: It worked. 1230 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 2: It worked for me, I told Danielle because I know 1231 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: she likes Serious, which doesn't want to think about dealing 1232 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 2: with her her stream. It worked, I told her. I 1233 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 2: don't know if she did it, But did it work 1234 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: for you? JD? 1235 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 3: I subscribe, you're a regular subscriber. 1236 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1237 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 3: Really, you got favorite numbers. 1238 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 5: Let's see, Well, I don't know the numbers, but uh, 1239 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 5: it's lithium for sure. The bridge basically smooth yacht rock basically, uh, 1240 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 5: the new wave, the first wave, first wave is like 1241 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 5: eighties new wave in punk. 1242 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 4: What else? Yeah, I don't know. 1243 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 5: I flip around there. 1244 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 3: You pay for that? 1245 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 4: What's yours? 1246 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 5: It's uh, it's like just over one hundred bucks every 1247 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 5: six months or something like that. Like the only and 1248 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 5: I have is because I keep forgetting. 1249 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: To you need rocket money. 1250 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 2: To remind you to cancel that, asked Dave Gilbert. 1251 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 3: All right, those are filling the blank. 1252 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,479 Speaker 4: I hope you played along there in the stream team 1253 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: or play along in the comments or on Spotify in 1254 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 4: the comments section. Let's uh, let's see what you guys 1255 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 4: are using there to fill in the blanks on those 1256 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 4: four topics. Love bite, Love Bye of the night sponsored 1257 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 4: by d fresh Ten by way of the stream team. Simply, 1258 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 4: I believe for JD's Energy bill fund. 1259 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 1260 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 4: But really we could change that to JD's serious as scripture. 1261 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah awesome. 1262 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So thank you to d fresh ten for sponsoring 1263 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 4: whoa Boy keeping the lights on in here and the 1264 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 4: tunes on in the car? 1265 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: This donation paid for cumbersome by seven Mary three. 1266 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 4: How exciting that was. 1267 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 2: On the other day, a channel flip it Audio. 1268 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 4: Oh well, Carl Anthony Towns gets whoa Boy. Only scored 1269 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 4: nineteen points, but very efficiently eight of eleven from the field. 1270 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 4: Sank all three of his threes, fourteen rebounds, two, three assists, 1271 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 4: two steals, two blocks. He played twenty six minutes. Carl 1272 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 4: Anthony Towns was very very happy, I thought to head 1273 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,479 Speaker 4: to the NBA Finals. You know, it's like a little 1274 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 4: different than not not that John Brunson isn't happy, but 1275 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 4: you know, like in terms of like holding the championship 1276 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 4: or the Eastern Conference trophy and celebratory mood like it said, 1277 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 4: maybe that's why they're a good pairing here. 1278 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but can more reticent in general. Right, but this 1279 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 3: has got to be some of the lowest numbers you're 1280 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 3: ever going to see on a Whoa Boy. I mean, yeah, yeah, 1281 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 3: nineteen fourteen is a good game. Yeah, nineteen points is 1282 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 3: low for a while, no doubt. But he did have 1283 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 3: two blocks, two steals. I could have put stocks there, 1284 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, nobody scored over twenty, right, So 1285 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give it to Donovan Mitchell. That's 1286 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 3: sorry even I have you know, I know you can 1287 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 3: give woe Boy to a loser, but I couldn't go 1288 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 3: that far. I couldn't do it. 1289 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: No, I do want to mention after looking at the stats, 1290 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 2: some people listen to No Dunks on Serious exim What 1291 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 2: how I don't know how it works, but they download 1292 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: using the app. I guess. Yeah, guys, I was looking 1293 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 2: at these stats yesterday. Obviously our number one is Apple, 1294 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 2: number two is Spotify. There's a pocket cast, there's a 1295 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 2: pocket Addict, you know, but some people listen on browser. 1296 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 2: There's a Chrome somehow they get it through Chrome. 1297 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 4: You can listen to add free to our shows on 1298 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 4: substat the whole thing. 1299 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: But so many apps out there. Podcast Republic, Edge. 1300 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 3: Edge I don't know. 1301 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite wrestlers. 1302 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 2: Some people listen to it on Alexa. 1303 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 4: Cool, but how are we on Serious ex Are we 1304 00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 4: not being paid for that? 1305 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 3: We are? 1306 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 5: It's a podcatcher, just a catcher catches the r s 1307 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 5: S feed. 1308 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 4: Thanks you catch up. 1309 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an eye catcher. Uh Deezer what is Deezer 1310 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 2: dog catcher? 1311 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 4: Eye catchers Von Rodriguez. 1312 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Actually, Actually. 1313 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: You throw you through an edge and then Yvon Rodriguez 1314 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 2: in the same come on thirteen. 1315 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 3: Of another catcher with an eye. 1316 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: But that's hard hard, not a catch edge mobile to anyways, 1317 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Let is go, rusty media, monkey, what what are you 1318 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 2: going on? 1319 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 4: Let me tell me, like three people totally. 1320 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm at the bottom now. 1321 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 1322 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 2: I know you. You're seeing these here and you're saying 1323 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 2: three people. But serious, X has been thirty one people 1324 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 2: over the last five days. Okay, so not many, not many, 1325 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 2: but there's somebody, there's somebody. 1326 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 4: Funnier or maybe two or three people are doing it. 1327 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Well. 1328 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 2: I want them to keep doing it. I don't want 1329 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 2: them to be snipped because there's another one called snipped. 1330 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 2: That's the only reason why. Yeah, you listen secting me 1331 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,439 Speaker 2: app also gets you s N I p D. There's 1332 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 2: that snipped. 1333 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 4: I can't wait for the start of tomorrow show when tastays. 1334 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 3: Snipped and monkey Catcher listeners for you? 1335 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 2: What is Apple core me, that's a decent amount on 1336 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Apple Core Media. There's a decent amount. 1337 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 4: It must just be Apple really somehow, you think so? 1338 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 4: All right, we'll shout out to all our zoom listeners 1339 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 4: as well. 1340 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,439 Speaker 2: Hold on, there's a lot of people listening on unknown app. 1341 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Can't track that. 1342 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 4: Alright, we'll call it there congrats again to all the 1343 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 4: Knicks fans headed to the NBA Finals. We will here 1344 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 4: tomorrow though, to talk about Game five of the Western 1345 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 4: Conference Finals. 1346 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Pivot all Game five. 1347 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a big one tonight there on NBC. 1348 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 4: So we'll be here at ten am Eastern and hope 1349 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 4: you join us live. If not, you're downloading and listening 1350 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: to the podcast platform of your choice. 1351 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 3: You got a million to pick from. Deezer. That's right 1352 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 3: until Cliffer Bros. You heard it here first. Have a 1353 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 3: great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome, Thanks for 1354 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 3: joining us. 1355 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 2: And remember Olympiakos won the EuroLeague. Just want to mention 1356 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 2: a bunch of the guys that play for Olympiacos because sometimes, 1357 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh I. 1358 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 4: Know one who Corey Joseph, Cory Joseph. Yeah, he's one 1359 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 4: of the rare people to win an NBA title and 1360 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 4: the EuroLeague title. Hey, it's not many. He's first Canadian 1361 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 4: definitely to do it, and one of a handful of 1362 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 4: people maybe a ten plus. 1363 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Evan Fournier, Tyler Dorsey, Sasha v Zenkov, 1364 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Thomas walk up. Yeah, that's that's Coasis. Papa Nicolau, Nicola Milutinov, 1365 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: we've seen him play international. 1366 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 3: He's good. Wow. 1367 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 2: Alec Peters not really familiar with his work, but that's 1368 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 2: that's that's the that's the basically. 1369 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 4: This team could win an Eastern Conference finals series. 1370 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: Maybe next year. 1371 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,479 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a good team. 1372 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Champs brace the eight people.