WEBVTT - What we’re hearing about the Cubs after a big series win in Milwaukee 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.719 Welcome into Northside Territory File Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.639 Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.800 Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic. Patrick. It has 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.000 been a while since I feel like I've been able 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.479 to say this, but that was a great series for 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.520 the Cubs, a great week for the Cubs. They went 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.240 it was six and one on the road, including just 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.160 I mean, we were wrapping up the Metts series kind 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.080 of it was before they finished off the sweep when 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.120 we were talking and recording, but I was looking at 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.839 those pitchers and wondering, how are the Cubs going to 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:48.120 get through this? We know, the injuries that have happened 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.199 for the Cubs are just kind of mind blowing. How 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.120 rough it's gotten for their pitching staff, both both the 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.440 bullpen and the starting rotation. And you see Miserowski, Harrison 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.279 and Woodruff waiting for you in Milwaukee, a team that 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.960 had kind of outclassed you when they came to Wrigley Field. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.160 That first game was close until the very end. The 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.680 Brewers kind of put it out of out of play there. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.880 They kind of blew them out in the end, but 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.240 it was closer. It was a good game, and those 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:21.880 last two the Cubs won the second one in impressive fashion. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.560 That third game, what a game like That's one of 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.400 those you know, I was watching at home, you were 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.800 out there. Don't see Craig Council reacting that often like 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.320 the way he did. He was pumped up after that win, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.520 and and it was you know, it was exciting. It 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.959 was like, you know, clench clenching type victory. You didn't 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.280 know what was going to happen, but they somehow pulled 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.600 that off. They're going to have to pull it off 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.160 like that for a while, I guess, but you know, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.560 you'll take that weekend. What a what a huge boost 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.360 for this team, I think, both in the standings and 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.280 just mentally too. I think taking that series. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.680 As you know, Council uses every minute of that cooling 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.280 off period, win or lose after a game. The Cubs 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.760 usually seem to stretch it a little longer than most 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:18.040 and you know, postgame because yeah, that was fun and 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:22.080 basically saying it in a total montone and you know, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.400 or well onto the next one. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.280 But I think that was truly a total team effort. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:40.440 It wasn't always pretty, but leaving that stadium. You just 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.120 got the overall press. These are two evenly matched teams. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.760 I know there is still a significant gap in the standings. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.200 There is still a long way to go. I think organizationally, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.280 the Brewers have outclassed. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.040 The Cubs over the years. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.000 But you certainly did not watch those three games and 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.360 think that they're you know, in two different stratospheres. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.680 Like you have to credit. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:12.040 Counsel and his coaching staff for piecing things together individually. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:18.400 A lot of pitchers uh stepped up, and you know, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.200 we when the Cubs are struggling, we try to, you know, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:28.640 play psychologists on you know, the vibes or the personalities 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:29.920 and are they missing something? 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.480 And you know, you if you're. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:34.840 Gonna do that, then you have to give credit for 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.920 the steadiness of the position player group. That doesn't mean 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:45.080 they're That doesn't eliminate the streakiness offensively. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:45.600 Or mean they're not. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.480 It's not frustrating at times, it can be, but just 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:57.680 the defense, the experience, uh, just an ability to keep 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:03.480 pushing forward. You saw all of those things, and you know, deficit, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.120 it's not gonna be easy to make up five and 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.640 a half games on the Brewers. But it's starting to 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.720 become a little more manageable. And they definitely, you know, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.520 they surged their playoff odds with that six to one week. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.920 Like we've talked about, wait for you need to start 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.880 not only stacking series wins. You need that one streak 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.799 to create a buffer period. They still have to avoid 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.919 the down periods. And when you look at the twelve 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.200 pitchers on the injured list, you know, I wrote in 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.560 the Athletic it's it's roughly what they probably would have 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.400 hoped a playoff roster would have looked like on a 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:42.720 thirteen man staff before we got all this information that 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.520 the season brings up, a half season brings us, And 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.720 so I think that's why it was a little I 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.520 wouldn't say muted. It was more like, you know, they 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.640 came away from that series, you know, certainly satisfied with 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.799 the effort and the outcome, but they are literally Jacob 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.160 Webb said this like taking it one day at a time. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:06.880 It's like who's who's available to pitch, who's healthy, and 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.480 who can get the job done. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:09.000 In the moment. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.280 Yeah, this it's about two weeks I think where it's 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.600 going to be really difficult to piece it together. Pitching wise, 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.760 We'll see if everyone can get healthy how much the 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.799 All Star break helps. But I you know, this bullpen, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.479 and I've been saying it for a little while, like 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.920 I'm I just don't know how they're going to get 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.799 through day in and day out that they can because 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.160 bullpens sometimes you don't you don't know, like who's going 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.560 to be good all of a sudden, like someone steps 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.320 up in the middle of a season, and that that's 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.080 how bullpens are kind of put together sometimes. Uh, and 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.080 especially when there are injuries like there have been. Uh, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.440 I just I guess less. I don't know how they're 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.640 going to get through. But what I do know is 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.440 every game that is maybe not even close, even ones 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.000 where they have bigger leads, you are going to feel 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.839 some stress as a fan watching this bullpen. It's not 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.640 going to be easy to get through games that four 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.200 to one lead in the tenth inning should be a 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.159 little bit easier, and it just wasn't. And I get it. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.880 Look Ethan Roberts has been solid, but when you watch 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.560 him every day, you're like, this is you know, too 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.600 much contact. Eventually it's going to get to him, right 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.800 Trent Thornton I feel the same way, Like these guys 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.000 got to miss a little bit more bats to feel 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.440 really good. Although I got to give Ethan Roberts credit. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.160 He does usually get ground balls. He he had a 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.440 bad day. He had a bad day. Give Jordan Wicks 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:42.320 some credit. I I just I got to give credit 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.640 to the coaching staff. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.599 You did there. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.320 You know, Craig Council took a lot of heat when 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.039 things were going bad, and like there were there was 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.839 some pretty outlandish suggestions when they were losing ten in 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.000 a row, he's lost the clubhouse? Maybe, does you know, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.159 does he need to be fired? You know, you hear 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.040 like crazy things. I don't know how much of that 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.240 was mainstream and just angry fans on the internet. Not 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.200 always good to judge things off off social media. Uh, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.400 but that that clearly isn't the case. He's not lost 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.920 this clubhouse. He is not. He does not deserved to 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.960 be fired. If anything, he's he's part of the reason 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.640 they're they're keeping this group together. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:20.400 Uh. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.200 Don't want to give Jed Hoyer credit just yet. Uh, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.640 but some early moves, uh you know early as far 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.920 as you know, trade deadline goes, some some like he's 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.080 he's been scouring the waiver wire. He has found some 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.400 pictures to kind of put things together. We'll see how 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.720 long that lasts. 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Uh. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.040 It's one outing for for David Peterson, one outing for 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.160 Bryce Wilson. But right now, you know they help them 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.880 get two wins, you know, each help them get a win. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.280 Ched Hoyer kind of shouted out Tyler Ferguson, I believe 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.960 when we were in New York. Uh and and yeah, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.800 like Ferguson has looked good, especially against right handed hitters. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.800 He looks like a solid, like a solid pickup right now, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:48.720 one off season, huge win, Ryan Rollinson started, did he start? 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.080 He started yesterday's game, and he's he's got like a 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.840 does he have a sub two? E? R A? Am 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.040 I remembering this right? I'm going off the top of 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.160 my head. But I think like he's been great, has 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.080 been good. Yeah, so you know, yes, have the big 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:09.920 names have Edward Cabrera, Alex Bregman and uh and who 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.720 in Phil Maton? Those are probably the three big signings. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.560 They haven't been they haven't been as good as as 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.520 you need them to be. But like some of these 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.520 smaller moves are saving the cub season right now and 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.520 keeping them afloat. We'll see they have a lot more 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.000 to do. You can't just say like, oh, David Peterson's 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.080 a win now, great for a start. Looks a lot 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.680 better with the Cubs defense obviously. Uh, but so far, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.679 so good. And this is kind of what you need. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:43.200 Like guys nobody expects to do well or to perform. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:43.200 You need. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.080 You need some of those to kind of get through 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.320 whatever this madness is with all these injuries. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.760 I know you said wait to give Jedi Hoyer credit. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.120 I will wait all of one segment. I think you 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:01.480 gotta recognize some of the urgency he showed there of 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.400 getting Peterson in. 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:10.680 I'm sure they obviously were comfortable with kind of the costs. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.400 But I do think. 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.440 We think of Jed as very deliberate and patient and 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:26.480 data driven. But I think his group is working really hard, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:30.280 really focused. They understand, they acknowledge there's a problem, and 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:31.840 they're doing something. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:33.680 About it. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.080 You know, Peterson, I think he's made a really nice 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.960 impression just in talking to him and you know, getting 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.360 you know, a couple of scouting reports on him, just 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.160 like a we're spending ten seasons in the Mets organization. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:56.360 I think gives you an amazing amount of perspective and 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:03.040 you can just tell that he's a bright guy, you know, very. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:05.360 Just professional. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.400 I mean, it was just hilarious about how Cubs officials 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.880 spent days talking about his ground ball rate and the 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.199 very first pitch he throws in it comes uniform, the 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.239 trio just smokes it off the top. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.560 Of the center field wall for a home run. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.400 But he he settled in and I think that uh, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.320 you know, shows a lot and the defense will show 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.679 up behind him after, you know, leaving what was kind 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.480 of a you know, I mean, people be talking about 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.680 that Mets defense for a long time. I mean that 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.360 was just such a you know, the Mets are one 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.360 of those franchises where, you know, people remember, history follows them, 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.840 and just the the six error performance leading into Carlos 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.520 Mendez's firing just really. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.640 An all time Mets moment. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.280 And the change of the change of scenery angle like 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:01.240 councils talked about it, Peterson acknowledged they there's something to it, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.640 not saying he was looking to leave, but that he's 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.440 seen it before. Guys getting ruts, Guys get kind of 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.200 stuck in their routine and you know, or maybe they 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.000 need to go to be more receptive to different ideas 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.520 and new voices. I think you're seeing that it comes 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.520 pitching dep This is almost essentially gone. They will admit it, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.520 but I think they will also point to, you know, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:30.080 a game planning system that's been pretty strong over the 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:35.839 last what twelve years, even going before that, basically since 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.040 THEO got here, And there's a lot of people that 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.120 went into that. When you look at you know, the 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:48.280 players they traded twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, a 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.640 lot of that was building up Starter's values and then 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.120 trading him out to get key pieces what turned. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.280 Out to be a championship team. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:01.640 That's the Chris Bosio, Mike Borsello, see Tommy Hotteve has 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.920 been there a really long time and in a couple 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.760 of different roles now and I think you see that. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:11.760 I think Counsel certainly helps in that regard. You'd appreciate 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.959 this quote. It was like Friday night when they lost 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.640 to the miz he was like, that was not the 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.960 game to chase, meaning he just saw how it was unfolding. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.760 He knew what he had at his disposable disposal this weekend, 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:31.240 So you have to make choices in the moment to that. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.200 Just take a broader view, And that's not a great tweet, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.200 but it Council is certainly not the only manager who 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.720 does that. I think he's just more comfortable doing it 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.280 and can explain it and can communicate with his players in. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:46.320 A way where they get it. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.360 But yeah, I miss I must have missed that from 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.080 Friday night and that I like that. You know you 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.840 it's playing the long game. I guess not even that long. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.960 It's just the rest of the week weekend really, But 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.480 I don't think fans in the moment would love that love. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.240 Hearing that they were like talking heads would freak out. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.960 It's an easy thing to pick apart. I do think 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.800 it's what smart managers do. You have that ultra competitive 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.520 gene inside you and to somehow be able to like 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.960 pull back a little bit on it and say like 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.800 I have like and Council is very good with that. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.880 There there's a reason why he starts a game and 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.400 these guys are untouchable in my bullpen. This guy I 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.480 cannot go to this guy, he is down. There are 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.080 managers that'll be like I. I know I said this, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.920 but I'm changing my mind. Council isn't one of them. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.960 He will stick to what he's decided and what his 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.400 coaching staff has decided, what he's communicated with his pitchers. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.520 And yes, Friday was not the game to chase. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:51.080 He was right. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.600 Just really impressive that they were able to take the 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:02.400 next two. As far as the Peterson acquisition, I was 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.840 a little hesitant on it, just because you don't know 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.360 what a guy's like like. Had he mentally been like 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.480 kind of dinged enough that it was going to be 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.400 hard to get him right? Was it going to take 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.400 a few starts to get him back to He seems fine, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.160 he seems like his himself, and now, like all the 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.600 things you just explained make a lot of sense. It's like, yeah, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.280 get get out of that situation. Not that you're like 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.400 begging to get out of it, but maybe a little 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.880 change of scenery helps. Definitely, a different defense helps. This 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.600 is a guy that is not that far removed from 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.720 being a really good pitcher in the big leagues. So 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.480 it's not I think I overlooked it a little bit 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.480 as far as the more time I've had to kind 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.440 of look at the deal and and look at everything 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.160 that he can do. This isn't like a Bryce Wilson 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.280 is a DFA pickup, right like you're picking up a 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.720 guy that was and hoping that he can just give 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.720 you some innings. I think there's more here with David Peterson, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:04.720 and he could be a positive impact to this rotation 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.280 even when they start to get healthy. Like he's a 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.679 he can be a quality piece. Patrick, let's get some 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:17.320 updates from you on guys. Let's make this our fan 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.640 duel Daily Dingers segment. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.480 Well, I do want to one quick thing on Peterson. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.960 I love to I saw him the other day before 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.480 his first start as a cub with an old school 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:40.040 yellow legal pad and a electronic tablet at one of 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:45.320 those small circular tables inside the visiting clubhouse in American family feel. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:53.520 So it's definitely like prepared, thoughtful, organized, And these are 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.320 type of the pictures the Cubs like if you're looking 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.639 ahead of like, you know, does this guy? Can this 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.200 guy be a contributor? 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:03.160 Yeah? 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.320 I guess as long as he stays healthy. He's legit, 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.280 Like he's six foot six. I don't know, between his beard, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.720 his size, his demeanor. He kind of reminds me a 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.000 little bit of Chris Bryant, just the way he's sort 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:20.520 of just kind of this easiness about him. First round pick, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.840 pitched in the NLCS two years ago, pitched in the 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:28.560 All Star Game last year. You know, not saying he's 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.760 gonna win the Syang Award this year, but I think 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.720 it's reasonable to expect like him to hit the ground 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:38.520 running here. In terms of who else they're waiting on, 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.159 it's kind of a long list here. Justin Steele still 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:47.840 thinks he can build up towards a starter's workload, you know, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.919 particularly if they make the postseason vance deeper in the postseason. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:59.240 That's not like a guarantee. The Cubs have been you know, hopeful, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.679 cautiously optimistic, while also being realistic like it's going to 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.679 be hard when you look at the calendar of what 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.280 he's trying to do. But like him, there has not 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.320 been a setback with Justin Steele. I think that was 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.879 important to clarify. It's just I think you can look 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.400 at this sort of situation and you can be either. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.360 If you're a player, you're going to be very optimistic 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.880 and you're going to keep pushing and you want that 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.600 carried out there of being a starting a major league 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.720 starting pitcher, and then if you're a coach, a manager, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.639 a front office official, you have to prepare for the 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:44.720 worst and be more conservative and think on a longer 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.960 term horizon for a player who you'll be counting on 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:57.120 next year, assuming there's baseball. A couple other guys. It's 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.919 kind of what we're hearing sort of segment. Jackson Wiggins, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.520 who you wrote about, is back on a minor league 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:09.880 we have assignment. Is thought of as a factor potentially 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.400 at some point this season, but he is not on 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.440 the radar for this segment. That council has been talking 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.680 about this two week window before the All Star Break, 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:23.280 a time when their pitching resources are almost completely expended. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:29.280 Wiggins is just not there yet. He hasn't pitched enough. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.639 I don't think he's quite refined enough yet, but he 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.720 could get there later this summer. Daniel Plancia supposed to 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.399 start throwing this week, but the Cub's closer will not 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.520 be activated before the All Star break. He is definitely 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.639 kind of at some point after that. Jamison Tyne has 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.320 made enough progress to where I believe he's throwing live 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:59.120 batting practice Tuesday at Wrigley Field, and that's looking at 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:04.520 a scenario where where he could make an abbreviated start 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:09.320 maybe just before or just after the All Star breaks. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.960 So that is a bit of good news. 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:21.520 And Edward Cabrera I did not get. There's not much 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.120 there there yet in terms of like what his time 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.800 frame would be. And I mean, we'll have this in 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.879 the next segment, but there was a very we had 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.199 a very revealing ish conversation with Ben Brown on his 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.960 it's been for him kind of a confusing medical situation, 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.200 but he feels like he's gotten some answers. 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.000 Okay, let's let's quickly take a break and then talk 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.040 more about Ben Brown. Northside Territory is brought to you 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.399 by fian Duel Baseball Fans. The MLB season is in 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.600 full swing, and FanDuel is giving you a chance to 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.800 call you shot with Daily Dingers. 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It actually was the original the I think. 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.080 I think originally they said it was like a stress 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:32.520 reaction or a stress fracture and then changed it because 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.080 they just couldn't get a good diagnosis. What's going on here? 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:36.479 Patrick? 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.959 Would this? You know, the fans get frustrated by some 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:44.200 of these, you know things. I don't know if there's 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.720 if this is a legitimate complaint or just like sometimes 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.520 how the medical process works. 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:57.879