WEBVTT - NFL Week 10 Game Lines Reactions (Ep. 24) 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.240 Hey there everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.400 brought to you by Bett MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.800 You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.640 It is time for our early look at next week's lines. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.279 And with me today to break it all down is 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.320 Dave Cocain, a longtime Las Vegas sports handicapper and host 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.360 of the LV Sports Line. You can find him on 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.880 Twitter at Dave Coke and Dave. How's it going? 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.240 Pretty good? 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.600 Coming out of a crazy weekend in the NFL where 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.880 all the home teams covered at least going into the 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.400 Monday night game. And I'm not a trivia guy, so 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.160 I don't know the last time that happened, but it's 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.240 obviously a very rare occurrence. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.400 Now. Technically though the Jaguars were home right in London, 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.640 I don't know what we do about. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.240 That, right, Yeah, that's we'll call that a neutral. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.440 I think we'll call that a neutral. I agree as well, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.480 even though they've been over there pretty much every year 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.520 since we started doing it. Well, let's get into week 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.680 ten here. Dave and I are going to be using 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.960 the consensus odds over at Bettingpros dot com. You know 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.280 by now that the consensus odds are an aggregation of 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.839 the odds that are available on the market. As always, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.080 there are going to be differences in the various sports books, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.600 so shop around for the best odds. All right, Dave, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.520 let's side right in here with the Chargers at the 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.080 Raiders on Thursday night. This one has moved a little bit. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.280 When I checked at the lookad line looked like it 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.280 was Raiders minus one. Right now we are showing the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.400 consensus odds as Chargers minus one, the over under a 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.000 staate at forty seven and a half. The Chargers, just 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.440 when you think they're dead, they come out with a 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.160 strong defensive performance against the Packers. They do enough on 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.880 offense to put up points, largely relying on the run. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.280 And as for the Raiders, they continue to play well, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.120 at least offensively beating the Lions on Sunday. The offensive 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.560 line is strong, Josh Jacobs looks like a star, Derek 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.480 Carr spreading the ball around well between Darren Waller and 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.160 Tyrell Williams. So now Chargers laying one over under at 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.800 forty seven and a half. Any thoughts on that? 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.240 You know it's gonna be interesting to see how the 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.960 Raiders perform under what now will be a little bit 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.360 of pressure, because I think up till this point, the 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.520 Raiders have been a nice surprise, but now you know 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.200 they're in the hunt at this point, and it becomes 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.200 a different ballgame when you're expected to do well rather 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.720 than when you're just kind of free wheeling out there 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.320 and not expected to do much. Derek Carr is certainly 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.680 playing at a high level. I mean the play he 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.320 made on the game winning pass against the Lions with spectacular. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.120 I think he scrambled for like twenty one yards before 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.880 he threw the ball and completed, and the Raiders defense 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.399 stood up at the end when they had to. The Chargers, though, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.919 going into this season, were looked upon as one of 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.600 the better teams in the league, and they just couldn't 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.120 get out of their own way. Early. He had some 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.280 really tough breaks. Looks like they're kind of rounding into form, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.840 and I think that does kind of explain why the 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.600 betting action has been what it is. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.040 I think the. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.519 Sharp, sharp money, which is usually early money, is going 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.480 to the Chargers here and I can't disagree with that. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.440 Yeah, and again, you don't think though that the line's 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.919 going to get anywhere to like the key number of three, right, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.400 I mean we're going to be staying within a field 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.000 goal at this point. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.639 Oh yeah, no, this will be I think I could 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.680 see two or maybe even two and a half, but 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.560 I don't think it gets to the key number three. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.280 Yeah. Chargers always make me a little nervous, just because 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.160 you never know what's gonna happen when they come into 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.440 a game. Sometimes they show up, sometimes they don't. But 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.079 it's good to see kind of the Raiders getting a 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.280 little more respect. You know, against the Packers. They got 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.880 blown out, but they really weren't that far away from 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.560 keeping that a close game. Out the game that a 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.239 lot of sharp betterers were really on the Raiders side 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.880 of it, and again they really you know, Derek Carr 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.560 fumbled through the end zone there. It could have been 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:27.800 a huge swing in that game. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.440 So it was a massive swing because the Raiders. I 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.080 just kind of we're in a state of shock after that, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:35.400 and Rogers exploited. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:36.600 They just got killed. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.960 But no, I mean Oakland had a couple of red 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.520 zones that they didn't cash into that game. They played 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.920 good football. John Gruden is showing that he didn't forget 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.360 how to coach while he was a broadcaster. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.640 Yeah, well, you know, maybe you shouldn't be running the 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.120 team in terms of personnel moves, but certainly as a 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.240 coach he's doing a pretty good job this year. Let's 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.760 move on to the Ravens at the Bengals. The Ravens 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.600 here are laying nine and a half and the over 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.400 under at forty six and a half. Both have moved 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.080 slightly from look aheadline when I saw the Ravens were 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.840 laying ten. They come off the huge win on Sunday 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.920 Night Football against the Patriots as most sharp better is expected. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.120 I mean that line dropped roughly two points from the 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.680 open defense is getting healthier and stronger. Now you have 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.479 the winless Bengals. They are coming off of bye. They're 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.479 switching quarterbacks here, going to Ryan Finley. AJ Green might 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.560 be back, So there are a lot of variables here. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.440 I mean, it's a possible letdown spot, I guess for 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.720 the Ravens coming off that big win, but they're obviously 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:27.760 a much more talented team. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.479 Well they are, and that's the problem is can the 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.320 Bengals hang in for sixty minutes? To me, this would 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.400 be one of those games where if you think, boy, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.760 you know, the Ravens could be ripe here because they're 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.520 coming off their biggest win in a long time, and 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.760 they're facing a winless team and now the only winless 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.600 team in the Bengals, and that's you know, look, you're 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.000 gonna get a big effort out of the Bengals. I 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.400 don't think there's any question about that. The problem is, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.279 I don't know if they can hang in for sixty minutes. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.160 So if I were looking at this one, and I'm 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.640 not locking this in as a play, but I might 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.320 consider Bengals first half or maybe even first quarter, you 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:01.960 would think the Bengals will come up with a lot 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.279 of energy here, especially with Finley on the field. I 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.120 think that's just an energy boost for the team, and 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.120 it's a pride spot for Cincinnati at this point. Pride 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.120 may not win you the full game, but can you 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.520 win you a partial bet? 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.880 How do you as a handicapper, how do you look 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.240 at it when you have somebody like Finley coming in. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.040 I mean, we don't really know what he's going to 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.320 necessarily look like. Do you just go with the energize 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.160 the team sort of angle? I mean, how do you 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.200 how do you really think about the number when you 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.520 have a new quarterback like that. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:29.960 Well, it depends on the situation. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.160 I mean, if if Ryan Finley's stepping in for I 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.360 don't know, Russell Wilson, then that's that's a pretty bad thing. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.200 He's stepping in for Andy Dalton, who at this point 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.520 is not a starting quarterback. So I don't know that 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.840 there's anything that I mean, I don't know how Finley's 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.039 going to perform. He looked okay in the preseason. That 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.400 was obviously not against anything sophisticated. But can he be 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.799 worse than Daltlet at this point? 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:52.320 I don't know. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.039 Yeah, And again, if they get aj green back, that'll 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.159 certainly be a little bit of a boon. Haven't heard 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.880 anything yet on his practice reports, but that's certainly in 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.720 Let's move on here to the Bills at the Browns. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.800 Browns here are laying two and a half. This has 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.840 been bouncing back and forth between two and two and 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.920 a half all day, and our consensus ods the over 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.400 unders dropped by about two points. It was at forty 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:12.960 two and a half and I looked at it earlier 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.720 in the day. It's now forty and a half. I'm 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.640 a little surprised. So I'm gonna really be interested to 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.680 hear your thoughts here, because you know, the Browns have 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.560 just done nothing to show any cohesiveness offensively at all. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.320 I mean, they'll get cream Hunt back here, but it's 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.200 selpful that that makes much of a difference. And the Bills, meanwhile, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.840 they continue to put up strong defensive efforts. They got 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.919 Devin Singletary way involved this weekend against the Redskins. They 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.840 opened up the offense a little bit, so, you know, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.039 to me, it struck me. I know the Browns are home, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.240 but you know, laying two and a half, I was 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:42.919 a little surprised by that. I expected it to be 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:43.840 closer to a pick them. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.000 Well, the puppup's probably got a bet buffalo at this 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.680 point because the Bills are six and two and they're 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.000 not blowing anybody away, but they are six and two. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.440 The Browns, meanwhile, have burned a lot of people's money 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.240 all year long, and I think people, as the masses least, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.599 they're going to be sick of backing him at this point. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.000 I can't back Cleveland. They're two and six, and let's 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.960 call it straight Baker Mayfield at this point is a 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.120 backup quarterback. I'm not saying he won't be terrific down 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.120 the road, but if you watch him now and he 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.800 has no clue as to what he's doing, his reids 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:21.480 are terrible. And I'm sure he hasn't lost confidence because 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.920 he's got that swagger, but I wonder if the team's 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.200 lost confidence in it at this point because he's just 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.720 making bad decisions and doesn't look like a number one quarterback. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:31.320 At this point. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.480 It's tough for me to back Cleveland. The team doesn't 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.200 seem to have any focus. Freddy Kitchens has done a 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.880 terrible job with the team, and they've got no leadership 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.480 on the field, and by the way, they lead the 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.080 league in penalties, so there's not much discipline there either. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.480 You can't see me on Cleveland. I don't think I 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.840 want Buffalo at this point because I think they're a 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:50.520 bit of a fraud. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:51.240 At six and two. 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.560 You know, they're an okay team, but they're really not 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.360 a seven to fifty team, So it's probably a game 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.320 that won't make my card. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.600 Yeah, no, I completely agree. This is a game that 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.400 i'd stay from. You know, the thing with the Browns, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.440 there are a couple of things. One, they have such 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.760 a combustible group of personalities that you knew, you know, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.160 they were. I think they were the most bet team 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.600 to win the Super Bowl, and I think they were 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.800 the most Mayfield was the most bet guy to win 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.800 the MVP. So they've obviously burned a lot of people 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.640 going in here. They have such a combustible group of 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.000 players at this point that you just can't see them 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.360 figuring their way out of this. And again they're they're already, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.520 I believe, two and six, so this season is pretty 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.840 much over. I did think, you know, against New England, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.360 you know, it seemed kind of fluky, you know that 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.400 they didn't cover that game because you know, you had 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.680 that the ball kicked out of Chubb's hands and stuff 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.360 like that. Like I felt like they easily could have 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.280 covered that game, and so I was willing to give 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.760 them another shot. But I agree against Gohead. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:41.560 Here's the thing. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.800 You could say they could have in a whole bunch 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.640 of their games this year. Sure, and they had that 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.840 one great game against the Ravens when they looked like 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.280 world beaters, right, but at some point you just have 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.760 to say, well could have doesn't mean they will And 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.080 all I know is the books are smiling at the 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.160 money they're gonna make with the Browns and the Bears, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.160 because those are two teams that cut a tremendous run 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.120 of the market. The Bears always do out here. They're 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.559 just an extremely popular team in The Browns, as you said, 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.800 drew a ton of money early and looks like the 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:10.400 books are going to. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:11.640 Be keeping all that cash. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.920 Yeah for now, you know, I'm not going anywhere near 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.319 him either side. I mean again, against the Broncos, they 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.720 just look terrible, and as you said, you know, Baker 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.640 Mayfield just you know, he can't get off his first read. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.400 He just does not look at all, you know. And 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.959 whether he's actually lost confidence or whether he's just playing 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.120 that way remains to be seen. But either way, I agree, 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.600 it's not a game that I really want to get 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.520 involved in because I also don't trust the Bills, like 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.439 you said, falcons here at the Saints. This has been 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.400 bouncing all over the place right now. The consensus odds 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.320 are at minus thirteen. I've seen this from minus twelve 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.360 to minus thirteen and a half. The over unders had 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.640 fifty one. Two teams at about the polar opposites of 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.320 the NFL World. The Falcons a complete disaster. Defensively, they 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.960 should get Met Ryan back here, but I likely won't 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.160 matter against the Saints, and with Drew Brees back, the 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.920 offense looked about as expected against the Cardinals. Soft matchup, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.240 but still they should get Alvin Kamara back here. Their 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.840 defense is playing incredibly well. This is a big line, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.640 But how do you feel about it? Saints laying thirteen 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:06.720 over under at fifty one. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.040 I don't want any part of the Falcons. I'm actually 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.800 surprised Quinn's still coaching the team. I thought they'd make 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.880 the change during the bye week because it's over okay, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.040 and they can't stop anything, so good luck against the Saints, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.400 and with New Orleans playing outstanding defense, I wouldn't think 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.520 Matt Ryan's gonna have a great day. I could see 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.640 New Orleans pulling away and winning this one by a lot. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.160 Yeah, I mean, I get nervous at anything when you're 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.040 talking about a spread this high, But at this point, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.120 the Falcons have shown absolutely no reason to expect them 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.079 to be able to hang in this game. You're right, 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.319 the fact that Quinn is still the head coach of 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.800 the Falcons is one of the most mind boggling things 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.760 in the world. I mean, for three weeks, I've been 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.280 waiting for the midweek coaching change going on, and he 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.920 just keeps hanging on. They're doing all these minor changes 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.080 during their bye week, like changing their punter for the 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.319 fifth time and things like that, but none of it's 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.320 really getting right. I agree, you certainly can't back the 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.760 Falcons at any point, and it is a big number, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.120 but at this point, yeah, I would lean towards the 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.840 Saints if you're talking about below two touchdowns, but it 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.040 certainly is something where in the end, you know, the 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.400 injuries on the defensive side of the ball for the 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.719 Falcons have just completely derailed their season, and they are 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.680 capable of putting up points. But the Saints' defense is strong, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.200 and I think that in the end, I'm certainly not 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.760 back in the Falcons. Whether or not I would take 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.880 the Saints at thirteen, I probably would feel okay with 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.280 it under two touchdowns, but you know, it is certainly 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:22.920 a bigger line. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.960 Yeah, they'll be very popular to teasers. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.800 I can guarantee you that absolutely. Giants at the Jets. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.400 This one opened at Giants laying one and now it 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.800 is at two and a half. The over under stay 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.920 is at forty three. We are recording this before the 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.800 Giants Cowboys game on Monday night, but they'll likely continue 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.760 to be down Stertling Shepherd as they are this week 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.720 next week, considering that he's gone back into the concussion protocol. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.800 I would be surprised if he's out of it by 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.959 next week. Meanwhile, the Jets are a complete disaster. They 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.160 lose to the winless Dolphins. Le'Veon Bell underwent and mri 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.320 and is knee today. I don't I haven't seen anything 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.680 on the results, but you know, hopefully it's not serious. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.400 The offensive line may be the worst in football right 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.040 now that even this is no longer playing well. So 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.760 how do you feel about this with you know, there's 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.199 been significant movement here already, Giants playing two and a 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:06.760 half over under at forty three. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.719 And the Giants will be up for this game even 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.560 though they're playing against the Cowboys, which is a big game. Look, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.080 this is still a neighborhood rivalry game. How can you 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.080 back the Jets at this point? And I know, look 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.280 betting against the obvious, or said I should say, betting 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.320 the obvious either way in the NFL, maybe not a 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.600 recipe for success long term, but there's no way with 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.440 free money. I wouldn't bet the Jets at this point. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.600 They're a train wreck. I think their coaches are one 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.239 and done and they can't wait for the season. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:34.400 To be over. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.480 I guess you could make a case that they'll be 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.040 embarrassed off the loss of the Dolphins, but they're just 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.640 such a bad football team right now. In any game 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.680 where they've got to win to cover the spread, I 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.480 don't want them. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.760 No, there's no way you could back the Jets here. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.679 I mean, sort of like the Falcons, and you know, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.480 in the end, the big thing was the Dolphins have 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.600 absolutely no pass rush and Darnold was still running for 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.680 his life. I mean, the offensive line is such a 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.800 disaster that under no circumstances can you back the Jets 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.760 in this game. I would feel finet the Giants, so 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.600 long as it stays underneath a field goal, because again, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.880 you know the team from top to bottom. I certainly 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.679 hope as a Jets fan that Adam Gase is won 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.800 and done, but they're certainly not getting it done anywhere 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.719 close to you know, what was expected of them out 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.320 of the preseason. And that's especially true. If Belle, you know, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.199 his if his knee injury is serious, which again we 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.520 don't know anything about that yet, then they'll be a 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.480 total disaster. But at this point, as long as it 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.120 stays under a field goal, I'd be fine with it. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.600 How in the world did they beat the Dallas Cowboys? 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.080 I mean, everybody sort of thinks that, right, that's what 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.920 you go back to, How did they possibly possibly do that? 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.080 It's really crazy And look, I you know, just speaking 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.840 more as a Jets fan, unless it's that you know, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.800 somebody who who's thinking about the betting side of things. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.640 I've always liked Darnold. I thought that he has a 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.640 bright future in the NFL. So when he first came back, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.400 I kind of I mean, I certainly liked him. I 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.440 think that Cowboys were laying seven in that game. I 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.600 like the Jets in that game, and then when they won, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.800 I felt confident in them. Getting ten from the Patriots 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.640 and even the following week getting six from the Jaguars. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.959 They look right now like they could not beat I'm 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.240 trying to think of a you know, historic team that 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.600 they you know, could beat. Right now, they really seem 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.960 like the worst team in football at this point. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.079 I make them a favorite against Rutgers. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.920 All right, I'll take it. Look, I mean, if they're 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.400 a favorite against anybody. You know, my six year old 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.280 has a pretty decent pewee team, so you know, I 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.520 think they could probably take them. 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Strikes me as it might 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.360 be a little higher if Mahomes is playing the defense 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.040 for the Chiefs playing a little bit better. Steve Spagnelo 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.400 is calling, you know, more blitzes. That seems to be 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.920 working well for the teams. The Titans, meanwhile, they lose 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.760 pretty handily to the Panthers. The offense continues to look, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.480 you know, at least competent behind Ryan Hannahill. Malcolm Butler 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.080