WEBVTT - The Birth of Magnavox

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech and recently I covered

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<v Speaker 1>the video game crash of Night three, and in that

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<v Speaker 1>episode I also talked about an earlier video game market

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<v Speaker 1>crash that happened in nine Now I also talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a company called Magnavox and the Magnavox Odyssey console that

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<v Speaker 1>ushered in the early era of home video game systems. Well, today,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we would learn more about the company Magnavox,

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<v Speaker 1>where it came from, and how it played an important

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<v Speaker 1>part in the history of electronics, because, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>Magnavox has a really interesting history beyond the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it helped bring about the the age of home video games.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is gonna be a deep dive series into

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<v Speaker 1>the history of Magnavox. And like most of my history series,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to take opportunities to talk about certain technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that played an important role in the company's history and

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<v Speaker 1>explain how those technologies work. It's kind of my sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>way of talking about how tech works. So there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of that in these episodes because the

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<v Speaker 1>founding of Magnavox itself actually comes from a pivotal technology

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of radio. So we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about radio early on in this episode in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>So while I'm calling this the history of Magnavox, you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a ton of extra content on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. Now, it also means that we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn about the history of the co founders of Magnavox,

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<v Speaker 1>and we usually say that the founders were uh, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen from Denmark and Edward Pridom. Now we'll start with

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<v Speaker 1>Pridum because I actually know the least about him. There

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<v Speaker 1>are more sources to have at least something to say

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<v Speaker 1>about Jensen. He's he's something of a hero in Denmark,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure what caused the disparity here where

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen has way more about him than Pridom does. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you what I do know about pried Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunate in that there are historians who focused primarily

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<v Speaker 1>on hyper local history, like the history of a specific town,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and I happened to come across one that

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<v Speaker 1>incidentally had information about Edwin Priddham. His father, James, was

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<v Speaker 1>born in eighteen forty four, so before the Civil War

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, but James was born in Quebec, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>He immigrated to Joaukegan, Illinois, in eighteen seventy one. There

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<v Speaker 1>he met a woman named Jeannette Lagrange McClaskey, and the

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<v Speaker 1>two fell in love and they got married in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three. James Priddom's occupation was that of a manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>chemist or a druggist, and he would end up running

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<v Speaker 1>a drug store in Woaukegan for several years, and from

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<v Speaker 1>what I can tell, he appeared to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>successful businessman. He and his wife moved to Maywood, Illinois

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen seventy eight, and in eighteen eighty one they

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<v Speaker 1>welcomed their son, Edwin S. Priddom, to the world. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have much other information about Edwin's upbringing. I do

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<v Speaker 1>know he attended Stanford University and he graduated in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o nine with a degree in physics. After graduation, he

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<v Speaker 1>joined fellow Stanford graduate Cyril Frank Lwell. Now l Will

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<v Speaker 1>had actually graduated a couple of years previously in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o seven, and l Will was trying to produce a

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<v Speaker 1>system that would allow for the wireless transmission of voice

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<v Speaker 1>communication aka you know, radio voice transmissions. This was in

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<v Speaker 1>Palo Alto, California. And we'll leave Pritam there for now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will rejoin him momentarily. But now, whether Jensen

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<v Speaker 1>so Peter Jensen was born in eighteen eighty six, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was born on the island Foster, which is part

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<v Speaker 1>of Denmark. As for where he attended school, by that,

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<v Speaker 1>I am somewhat baffled because at least according to Wikipedia,

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<v Speaker 1>and bear with me, we'll touch on this, but according

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<v Speaker 1>to Wikipedia, he went to Amherst College. Amherst College is

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<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts in the United States, and according to Wikipedia,

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<v Speaker 1>he graduated from this college with a degree in liberal

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<v Speaker 1>arts in nineteen o six. Now, immediately, that didn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>right to me, and I tried to verify this. And

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<v Speaker 1>because that particular fact in the wiki page had no citation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no source connected to this claim, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like it was off to me. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>some searches to find out whether or not this was accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a couple of other sources that also mentioned Amherst,

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<v Speaker 1>but every single one of them, including the Wikipedia page,

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<v Speaker 1>used the exact same wording, so clearly these are all

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<v Speaker 1>copies of each other. I don't know which one is

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<v Speaker 1>the original. Maybe it's the Wikipedia page, maybe it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the others, but they all used exactly the same words,

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<v Speaker 1>not like they were rephrasing things. So my guess was

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a mistake that happened in one place,

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<v Speaker 1>and then lots of other people copied it. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I find this all baffling is that, according

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<v Speaker 1>to most other sources, the young Jensen found himself apprenticed

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<v Speaker 1>to Dutch inventor Valdemar Poulson in nineteen o three, So

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<v Speaker 1>even the Wikipedia article says this that he joined Paulson

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<v Speaker 1>as an apprentice in nineteen o three. Paulson, however, lived

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<v Speaker 1>and worked in Denmark, so that raises the question how

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<v Speaker 1>the heck would a young Jenson be able to travel

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the United States and attend Amherst

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<v Speaker 1>while also working for Paulson, because the two would have

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<v Speaker 1>had to happen at the same time. So I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that has to be an error and a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that if you go to Wikipedia, it's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to look for initial sources. It is not always the

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<v Speaker 1>most reliable resource in of itself. I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not usually this bad, but this is pretty bad. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to assume that Jensen didn't leave Denmark before

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o nine or so, particularly since at least some

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<v Speaker 1>sources suggest it would be his future business partner Pritum

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<v Speaker 1>who would help Jensen learn English. Surely, if he had

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<v Speaker 1>attended Amherst in the United States and received a Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Arts degree of all things, he would have to have

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty fluent in English before leaving in nineteen o nine,

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<v Speaker 1>But will let that sit for now. Baltimore Poulson, Jensen's mentor,

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<v Speaker 1>was an inventor who made significant contributions to fields like

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<v Speaker 1>radio communication and magnetic recording. If you've listened to other

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<v Speaker 1>Tech Stuff episodes, you've heard me talk about that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff before. We will touch on a few things

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this episode in order to understand their significance as

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<v Speaker 1>well as you know how they actually worked. Anyway, Jensen

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Poulson, gaining valuable experience and knowledge in the

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<v Speaker 1>field of radio physics and electronics. One invention in particular

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<v Speaker 1>would become instrumental for our stories beginning, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the arc radio transmitter. But all of this requires

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<v Speaker 1>multiple explanations so that we can understand why it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the very early days of radio transmissions, engineers

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<v Speaker 1>worked with something called spark transmitters, and this stuff ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being really important because it does lead eventually to

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<v Speaker 1>Jansen and print a meeting. So we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>trip down this rabbit hole to learn about the early

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<v Speaker 1>days of radio. And by early I mean when folks

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<v Speaker 1>first started discovering that this was a thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>could create and detect radio waves. So in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get that basic understanding, like this just becomes an onion,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, but you know, we have to have

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<v Speaker 1>this basis of understanding. We're gonna start with James Clerk Maxwell. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you could technically go back earlier, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So in the mid nineteenth century, Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at the work done by folks like Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Augustine de Colombe, Michael Faraday, Andre Marie Empire, Franz Ernst Neuman,

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<v Speaker 1>and Emile Lens. So see, like you could go further

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<v Speaker 1>back but that would be an entire episode by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe one day I will to just talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>steps that led to us understanding and then leveraging things

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<v Speaker 1>like radio waves. Any Maxwell was trying to suss out

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<v Speaker 1>the math that would help explain the various observations that

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<v Speaker 1>had been made by these earlier scientists, and most of

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<v Speaker 1>those observations dealt with our growing understanding of electricity and

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<v Speaker 1>magnetism and how those two things relate to one another,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, electromagnetism. So Maxwell developed a series of

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<v Speaker 1>equations to describe the relationships between electricity and magnetism, and

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<v Speaker 1>this became the foundation for our understanding of electromagnetism, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also ended up creating certain predictions that Maxwell himself

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<v Speaker 1>had no way of testing. There are entire college courses

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to Maxwell's equations, and there's no way I could

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<v Speaker 1>do that subject matter justice in this episode. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>important for us to realize is that another smarty pants

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Heinrich Hurtz. I'm sure that last

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<v Speaker 1>name sounds familiar. He was able to create scientific experiments

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<v Speaker 1>to look for something that Maxwell's equations had predicted. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was actually putting these predictions to the test. Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves. But that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great prediction, But how would you know if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you were around them. I mean, they are

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<v Speaker 1>invisible apart from light, which is part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>But people weren't fully didn't didn't fully understand all this

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, So they are effectively invisible to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have no real way of interacting with them

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<v Speaker 1>naturally on our own. But the Hurts came up with

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<v Speaker 1>an experiment. He built an apparatus that included a spark gap.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, it incorporated a pair of electrode terminals that

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<v Speaker 1>are separated by a small gap of empty space just

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<v Speaker 1>air between the two. But if you create a sufficient voltage,

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<v Speaker 1>which remember an electrical circuit, voltage is equivalent to pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>how much UNP is behind the current, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a sufficient voltage applied across the two terminals, so, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, the the difference between negative and positive charge

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<v Speaker 1>just so great it allows for an electric discharge to

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<v Speaker 1>pass between the terminals and essentially kind of equalize the pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get a spark. In other words, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the basic principle for stuff like spark plugs in internal

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<v Speaker 1>combustion engine vehicles. Anyway, Hurts created a device that had

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<v Speaker 1>a spark gap in it. He could generate sparks with

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<v Speaker 1>this device, but he also had a loop of wire,

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<v Speaker 1>and the loop of wire ended with a little gap

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<v Speaker 1>between two effectively terminals another spark gap. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>this one was not connected to a power source, however,

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<v Speaker 1>and he discovered that when he generated a spark with

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<v Speaker 1>his first device, this loop of wire would also have

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<v Speaker 1>a spark get generated between its two ends as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it was within a few meters of the first one. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, spark gap number one acted like a transmitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and spark gap number two, this loop of wire was

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<v Speaker 1>acting like a receiver. Now, I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 1>into all the actual physics of this, because that would

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<v Speaker 1>require even more discussion of stuff like resonance, capacitance and

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<v Speaker 1>inductance um and and that would just be like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this series would be forty episodes long. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that it isn't as simple as saying electricity happens over here,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's also happening over here. That would be just

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<v Speaker 1>playing wrong. Now, if you do want me to go

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<v Speaker 1>into a more detailed explanation of how Hurts generated radio

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<v Speaker 1>signals with this, even though he wasn't fully aware of

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it was he did. I'll do that in

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<v Speaker 1>a future series, but for now we'll just leave it

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<v Speaker 1>as Hurts created a device that generated radio waves and

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<v Speaker 1>discovered a way to detect those waves using a loop

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<v Speaker 1>of wire. But it Hurts didn't think there was any

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<v Speaker 1>real practical use for this. He just saw it as

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<v Speaker 1>a scientific experiment that validated Maxwell's hypothesis regarding electro magnetic radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just saying, this experiment, it proves that Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>was right, But I can't see any use for this

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<v Speaker 1>apart from that. Now, as it would turn out, this

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<v Speaker 1>would become the basis for early radio communication. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, this type of radio communication uh has

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<v Speaker 1>been illegal in the United States since nineteen nine. The

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<v Speaker 1>spark gap transmitter approach against the law in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might wonder why why is that against the law? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the signals you generate with a spark gap radio transmitter

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<v Speaker 1>have a very broad frequency range. So if you were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, close to a spark gap radio transmitter, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not part of this experiment, right, there's just one

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<v Speaker 1>that's operating somewhere in your area. Well, you might find

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<v Speaker 1>that the transmissions coming from that transmitter are overpowering other ones,

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<v Speaker 1>like broadcast radio signals or you know, maybe later on

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<v Speaker 1>television signals. It all depends on what frequency range it's

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting in, and radio interference, by definition makes it really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to send and receive signals. So the US federal

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<v Speaker 1>government told amateur radio enthusiasts, hey, there's no way you

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<v Speaker 1>can guarantee your setup is not gonna mess with important systems,

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<v Speaker 1>so please don't use spark gap transmitters. It's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>firing off a blunderbus in a random direction. Not not great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not precise, so you can't like tune into a

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<v Speaker 1>specific radio frequency. It's more like across this broad range

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<v Speaker 1>of frequencies, that transmission is gonna criss cross all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not a precise approach to transmission. So later

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<v Speaker 1>engineers would build spark gap systems to transmit information wirelessly.

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<v Speaker 1>But the spark gap method really only allows transmission of

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves over that broad and somewhat random spectrum of frequencies,

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<v Speaker 1>so suitable for sending like a coded message like those

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<v Speaker 1>that are sent by Morse code, because you could just

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<v Speaker 1>send little bursts of radio pulses. But it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>good fit for other types of information like audio information.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no way to send voice communications using spark

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<v Speaker 1>gap technology, at least not effectively. And this is where

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<v Speaker 1>Poulson comes in. So you know, you remember Paulson. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of left off on him a while ago. But

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<v Speaker 1>Poulson developed something called an arc transmitter. And you might

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<v Speaker 1>have heard me talk about transistors and how those would

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<v Speaker 1>end up replacing for the most part, older vacuum tube technology. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum tubes would end up replacing arc transmitters. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a step back from vacuum tubes were right

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<v Speaker 1>in between, uh, you know, the spark transmitters and vacuum tubes.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, the arc lamp had been around for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a century. But I'll talk more about how we

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<v Speaker 1>went from an arc lamp to an arc transmitter after

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<v Speaker 1>we come back from this quick break. So our lamps

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<v Speaker 1>had been around for almost a hundred years when Poulson

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<v Speaker 1>starts taking a look at them for the potential of

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<v Speaker 1>using them as a form of a radio transmitter. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start by defining what an arc lamp is in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. And I talked about these a bit in

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<v Speaker 1>my episodes about stage lighting. Uh, they have something in

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<v Speaker 1>common with spark gaps. So in our lamp typically has

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of carbon rods. Doesn't always have to be carbon,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's how the early ones were. And you create

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<v Speaker 1>a high voltage between these carbon rods um and you're

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<v Speaker 1>essentially feeding a high voltage current into rod number one

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<v Speaker 1>and it's separated by a gap from rod number two,

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<v Speaker 1>and the carbon in the first rod begins to vaporize.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the carbon rod is gonna heat up due to

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<v Speaker 1>its electrical resistance as this high voltage is pushing current

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<v Speaker 1>through it, so heats up. Some of the carbon atoms

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<v Speaker 1>begin to vaporize, and this allows electricity to flow in

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<v Speaker 1>an arc from rod number one to rod number two.

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<v Speaker 1>The carbon vapor effectively is completing a circuit. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>means that rod number one is slowly losing mass because

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<v Speaker 1>particles are vaporizing off of the rod, and Rod number

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<v Speaker 1>two is slowly gaining mass because those vaporized particles are

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<v Speaker 1>forming deposits on the rod. And the length of that

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<v Speaker 1>gap ends up being really important for carbon arc lamps.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's too wide of a gap, well, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get these little starts and stops as the arc forms,

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<v Speaker 1>because the vapor between the two rods will get interrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the gap is too large, you just get

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sputtering lamp. If it's too close, well

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get an arc that forms, but you'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>limit to how much light is being produced and won't

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<v Speaker 1>be very effective. All right, So that was the basic

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<v Speaker 1>carbon arc lamp. Well, then a brilliant woman named Hertha Arton,

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<v Speaker 1>who married a mathematician named William Martin Um had come

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<v Speaker 1>up with more ideas. So William Martin he had started

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<v Speaker 1>to look into the physics and peculiarities of arc lamps.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were already a thing by the time

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking into them. He didn't invent them. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just curious about them because there were certain things

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<v Speaker 1>about them that were interesting and not fully understood. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he became discouraged after his research burned up because arc

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<v Speaker 1>lamps are also dangerous and there was a fire. But

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<v Speaker 1>Hertha took up the torch, so to speak. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a keen student of mathematematics, herself and she continued her

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<v Speaker 1>husband's research on her own. She noted that when she

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<v Speaker 1>generated certain types of arcs at certain voltages, the current

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<v Speaker 1>in the arc would decrease as she increased the voltage.

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<v Speaker 1>And that seemed weird, right, Like she would increase the

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<v Speaker 1>voltage or pressure, but the current, the amount of electricity

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through the arc would decrease. What could is that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen? Well, William, her husband, hypothesized that for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was seeing the current changing, there must be

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of negative resistance, negative electrical resistance in the arc.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not something that was accepted by the science

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<v Speaker 1>community at large, to put it lightly, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>his students, a guy named William Duddell, began studying arc

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<v Speaker 1>lamps and he found something really weird. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what happened if you changed the current flowing

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<v Speaker 1>to an arc lamp, you know, at at different speeds,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're changing the current frequently or less frequently, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that affect the arc lamp? And this was

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<v Speaker 1>direct current, right, That's the kind of current that always

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<v Speaker 1>flows in the same direction. It's the type that you

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<v Speaker 1>get if you are drawing electricity from a battery, because

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<v Speaker 1>a battery has a negative terminal and a positive terminal,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that the electrons flow from the negative toward

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<v Speaker 1>the positive and they're not going to change directions in

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<v Speaker 1>a normal like circuit. But Duddle hooked up his arc

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<v Speaker 1>lamp to a circuit that had a capacitor in it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a capacitor consists of two conductive plates that have an

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<v Speaker 1>insulator substance called a dielectric separating the two plates. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, kind of like a sandwich, you have

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<v Speaker 1>conductive plate number one, you get your insulating material, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have conductive plate number two. Now, this allows you

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<v Speaker 1>to build up charges on either side of the plates.

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<v Speaker 1>You can build up a very big negative charge on

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<v Speaker 1>one side and a positive charge on the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will hold that charge and opposite charges attract right

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<v Speaker 1>the negative once quote unquote to get over with the

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<v Speaker 1>positive and the positive ones to get over with the negative.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you create a pathway so that the charge

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<v Speaker 1>can actually move from either side and equalize, it will

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<v Speaker 1>do so, and it will do it all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>It will completely dump that charge as soon as there

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<v Speaker 1>is a viable path to do so. So here's a

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<v Speaker 1>simple version of a circuit with a capacitor. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you got a battery and you connect a wire from

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<v Speaker 1>the negative terminal of the battery to a light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>You connect the light bulb to a capacitor, and you

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<v Speaker 1>connect the other side of the capacitor back to the battery.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens when you have completed this circuit, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>electricity flows from the batteries negative terminal to the light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>Light bulb lights up, it continues on to the capacitor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now electrons start to accumulate in that plate of the capacitor.

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<v Speaker 1>That capacitor builds up a negative charge. Meanwhile, electrons on

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite plate, the one on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the circuit, they start to give up electrons that go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the battery and it builds up a positive charge.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a positive charge on one side and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a negative charge on the other. The

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<v Speaker 1>capacitor can actually charge all the way up to the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of voltage that the battery provides. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a one and a half volt battery, the capacitor

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<v Speaker 1>will charge up to one a half volts between the

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<v Speaker 1>two plates, and as it charges up, the light bulb

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<v Speaker 1>will gradually start to dim, and once the capascitor is

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<v Speaker 1>fully charged, the light will just go out. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>current no longer is flowing from the battery, the circuits

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<v Speaker 1>kind of at a standstill. You have equal amounts of pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>so everything just kind of holds. But let's say then

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<v Speaker 1>you remove the battery. So you take the battery out

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<v Speaker 1>of the circuit, the capacitor will still hold on to

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<v Speaker 1>its charge. It still has that that voltage there. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to actually put a wire in the

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<v Speaker 1>place of where the battery had been, well, now you've

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<v Speaker 1>completed a pathway so that the electricity can actually flow

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<v Speaker 1>through the circuit, and the electrons on the negatively charged

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<v Speaker 1>plate are gonna rush all at once back through this circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you're going to go back through the lightbulb

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<v Speaker 1>and make the light bulb flash very quickly, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the charge reaches equilibrium and the light bulb goes off

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<v Speaker 1>and everything goes back to normal. The flash bulb, as

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<v Speaker 1>we use in film cameras use capacitors in exactly this

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<v Speaker 1>way to activate that light quickly so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>take a flash picture. Okay, well, Dundal found something really

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<v Speaker 1>weird when he attached his capacitor to his arc lamp.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a loop of wire connected in this circuit

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<v Speaker 1>where he had his capacitor in his arc lamp, and

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<v Speaker 1>he found that this setup creates something really bizarre. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it would start humming at a weird musical note,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a musical kind of hum and also

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<v Speaker 1>it appeared that it was creating alternating current. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an oscillation going on in the flow of current. So

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<v Speaker 1>Dundle discovered if he straightened the loop of wire, the

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<v Speaker 1>humming noise stopped and the arc lamp reverted to plain

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<v Speaker 1>old direct current. So he figured something wild was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and he learned that the coil and capacitor were creating

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<v Speaker 1>an oscillating signals. So let's go back to that that

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:04.439
<v Speaker 1>simple capacitor example we just made. You've built up a

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<v Speaker 1>charge between two plates, and you connect the two plates

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<v Speaker 1>together using a coiled wire so that you can have

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<v Speaker 1>an instantaneous discharge, and electrons flow from the negatively charged

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<v Speaker 1>plate and they go through the coiled wire towards the

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<v Speaker 1>positive one. Well, as electrons go through a coiled conductor,

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<v Speaker 1>it generates a magnetic field. That magnetic field actually encourages

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<v Speaker 1>more charged to flow and it will reverse the charges

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<v Speaker 1>that we had in the capacitor. So, in one instance,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a positive plate and a negative plate. We

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<v Speaker 1>connect them with this coil. The negative ends up becoming

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<v Speaker 1>positively charged, the positive becomes negatively charged. They switch charges. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still connected by that coil of wire. So now

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<v Speaker 1>that flow of electricity is going to reverse again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back the other way, and because again

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<v Speaker 1>through that process it creates a magnetic field, it reverses

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<v Speaker 1>the charges again. So you have this oscillating effect. The

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<v Speaker 1>electricity flows in one direction until the capacitor charges up

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<v Speaker 1>flows the other direction, et cetera. Now y'all probably know

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<v Speaker 1>there ain't no such thing as perpetual motion. That's also

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<v Speaker 1>true in electrical systems as well. So you could connect

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<v Speaker 1>a charged capacitor in a very simple circuit with a

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<v Speaker 1>coil of wire and create alternating current. But the strength

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<v Speaker 1>of that current decreases over time, and this is due

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<v Speaker 1>to electrical resistance, which is essentially the friction in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of electronics. So eventually that current does die down.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just have a perpetual electrical machine by connecting

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<v Speaker 1>a coil of wire to a battery. People would have

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<v Speaker 1>figured that out long ago if it were possible, But

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<v Speaker 1>when connected to an arc lamp, things are end up

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<v Speaker 1>being a little different. So the battery would start to

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<v Speaker 1>charge up the capacitor. In the meantime, we would also

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<v Speaker 1>charge up the arc, and the arc would eventually fire. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the firing of the arc wouldn't turn cause the capacitor

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<v Speaker 1>to discharge, and that would start off this oscillating effect,

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<v Speaker 1>and the arc would essentially amplify that discharge, taking energy

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<v Speaker 1>from the battery and the process. So the arc was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like if you imagine someone on a swing

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<v Speaker 1>set and they're they're not pumping their legs or their

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<v Speaker 1>arms or anything. They're just they started a point they

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<v Speaker 1>start swinging. Well, we know that if you start at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain height and you swing down and you swing back,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna go back up to the same height

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<v Speaker 1>you started at, right, Friction is gonna slow you down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, You're not gonna go quite as high.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this case, the arc was acting kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like someone standing behind you and giving you just enough

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<v Speaker 1>of a push so that you're maintaining the same height

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<v Speaker 1>each time you swing. Back. That's essentially what the arc

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<v Speaker 1>was doing, and Doubtal figured it out. He figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that the arc was not just instigating this oscillating effect,

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<v Speaker 1>but perpetuating it, amplifying it. So Duddle finds that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what was generating that musical note when he turned

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<v Speaker 1>on the art generator. And he also found that if

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<v Speaker 1>he changed the size of the capacitor, or if he

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<v Speaker 1>changed the length of the coil, it would make the

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<v Speaker 1>note change. He could play a different pitch. So of

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<v Speaker 1>course he created a very primitive electric musical instrument. And

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<v Speaker 1>by changing the coil he was able to play out

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<v Speaker 1>a wicked version of God's Save the Queen. Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the God Save the Queen that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like my Country tis of the not God Save the Queen,

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>as recorded by the punk rock band The Sex Pistols.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>But Duddle was only able to create oscillations of up

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to ten killer hurts or ten thousand cycles per second.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>That's way too low for radio waves. Radio waves we're

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about the hundreds of killer hurts, and Duddle was

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>maxing out at ten killer hurts. So why does this

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>have to do with Pulson? And moreover, how does it

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>lay into the founding of magnavox. Well, Paulson heard about

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Duddle's work and he began to experiment with arc reactors himself,

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>arc reactors that's like Marvel arc generators. He knew that

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Hertha had previously described the arc lamps tended to hiss

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in the presence of oxygen. He wanted to get that

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>hiss out, so one thing he wanted to do was

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to cut down on the oxygen in the area of

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the arc itself. He did this pretty effectively by setting

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>down what was called a vapor lamp um using hydrogen

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and going into that would be a whole thing. So

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna cut to the chase and just explain

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that this effectively consumed the oxygen that existed within the

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>space of the arc, that in turn cut back on

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the hissing. Paulson also experimented by introducing magnetic fields around

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the arc, essentially just saying like, is there something that

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields do that could be useful here? And eventually

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he discovered that in a specific or intation, he could

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>use electro magnets to create a magnetic field that would

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>allow his arc lamp to generate higher frequencies of oscillation

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>high enough to create radio waves. The magnetic field would

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>allow the alternating current to flow to the carbon rods,

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>but effectively would block the direct current, so it removed

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>some interference that would otherwise prevent him from making a

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>stable radio frequency. And that was the final goal, was

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>finding a device that would allow you to create a

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>specific radio frequency or really more like a narrow band

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of radio frequencies, as opposed to the spark gap version,

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>which was that broad uh random series of frequencies. This

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>meant that instead of a shotgun blast, you had a

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>more dialed in, targeted approach, and it also meant you

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>could create a receiver with a tuner that could be

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>attuned to that spe cific frequency band. By the way,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this also means that you could have multiple transmitters, and

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you could have each transmitter setting transmitting out at a

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>different frequency band, and the transmitters would not interfere with

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>one another. So one person could be transmitting it, say

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>five forty killer hurts, and someone else could be transmitting

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>at six eight, and those two transmissions don't interfere with

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>each other. They're in separate frequency bands, so a person

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>on the other end would just need to tune into

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the proper frequency either five forty to hear person number

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>one or six eighty to hear person number two, But

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't hear both at the same time because you're

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you're refining it, you're tuning into that band. And now

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned those frequencies specifically because those are in the

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>A M frequency range here in the US. However, I

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>should also add Poulson's arc was capable of generating radio

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>signals that around two hurts, so much lower frequencies than

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>what we would typically talk about with commercial radio, but

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it still was radio waves. Well, if you were to

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>use spark gap technology, you would overwhelm all other transmitters

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and receivers, right. That's that's why the FCC, or really

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the predecessor to the FCC, said don't use spark gap

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>transmitters in the United States after nine. In fact, early

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>on in in radio transmission, spark gap transmitters created some

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty massive problems, including uh, during the tragedy of the

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>sinking of the Titanic. But that's another episode all by itself.

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to Poulson. So, by the time Paulson

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was figuring out ways to demonstrate his art, transmitter. He

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>had already you know, discovered that it worked, and he

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>had built a model based finding different ways to try

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and get investors interested in it so it could become,

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, a fully fully fledged business. He brought on

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Jensen as his apprentice. You remember Jensen. I thought about

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>him at the beginning of the episode. Anyway, Paulson was

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>finding it challenging to get into the radio market because

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>there was this other guy, Marconi, who was pretty dang

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>ruthless when it came to trying to monopolize radio technology. Yeah,

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>marconi story, uh is one that a lot of people

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>find irritating because of how Marconi helped squelch innovation. And also,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Marconi and Tesla had a famous, uh let's call it

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>disagreement as to who invented radio transmitting technology. So yeah,

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Marconi's kind of a He often can be presented as

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of a villain in these narratives. But Marconi had

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>patents on stuff like spark gap transmitters and his entire

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>business was flourishing on those, So he was not super

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>keen on adopting a technology, even if it was a

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>superior technology, if that technology didn't have his name on

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the patents. So Marconi did a pretty bang up job

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of keeping Pulson pushed to the sidelines. But then

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>across the pond all the way in California, we get

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>back to Cyril Lwell and he read about Poulson's discovery.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>L Well wanted to establish wireless communication systems in California,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>both as a way of sending wireless telegrams, but also

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>primarily as a way of enabling ship to shore communication

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>with the various boats that were off the West coast.

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>So he purchased the patent rights to Poulson's invention for

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a cool half million, an enormous sum back in those days.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a lot. Now you offered me a

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>half million, my eyes would probably roll back in my head.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>But back in those days it was a true fortune.

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>And he formed a new company called the Pulson Wireless

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Telephone and Telegraph Company, and Baltimore Poulson would actually have

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a ten percent stake in this new business. Now, to

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>help set everything up, Poulson sent young Jensen off to America.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And now we finally get to the point where Jensen

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and Pridham met. The two engineers meet each other, they

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>start to understand each other's work, they become friends. Apparently

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Printam was actually helping Jensen learn English, at least according

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to most of the sources that came across that weren't

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>claiming that Jansen had mysteriously attended Amherst somehow. And Jansen

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>brought with him the equipment needed to establish the communications

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>systems in California, and he and pried Um effectively we're

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>constructing these systems together. They were assembling things in California.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>In nine nine, the company would reorganize and it would

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>become the Federal Telegraph Company or f TC. This one

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>would become an important company for another emerging technology, that

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of the vacuum tube. But that's a different podcast. More importantly,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for our story, that change meant that Prinum and Jansen

0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>weren't really necessary for this new version of the company,

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and the two would resign. We'll learn about what happened

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>next when we come back after this short break. So

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>where do Yensen and prin Him go once they have

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>left FTC. Well, they kind of hoped they could continue

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to work with Poulson back in Denmark, and they wanted

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to establish some wireless communication systems in Canada. And Ireland,

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but Paulson had already made an agreement with a British

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>company to work with Ireland and he wasn't really interested

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in expanding into Canada, so that became a non starter.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>They went all the way to Copenhagen to try and

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>convince them, and that didn't work out, so they decided

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to return to California. Jensen had kind of fallen in

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>love with the United States and to say that that

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>was where he was going to pursue his his career.

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>So they went back to the States, and when they

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>returned to California, they encountered one of the most important

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>components for any tech company ever, whether we're talking historical

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>or startups of today. They met the money. So yeah,

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>for a tech company to succeed, typically you need several

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>things to be in place. For one thing, you need

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the tech. If the tech doesn't work, that makes it

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>harder to succeed. Not impossible. I mean, we have seen

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of scams out there and a lot of

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>lousy products that get to the point of success. But

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that does make it, you know, harder on occasion. You

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>also need good leadership, you need vision, and you need

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the cold, hard cash baby, you gotta have money to

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>get things rolling. So the money in this case came

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>from soap and candles. Seriously, there's this guy named Richard

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>O'Connor and he had made a small fortune in San

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Francisco selling soaps and candles, and he was also an

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>influential citizen in California. He had close ties to political

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>leaders in the state. So a Connor met with the

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Incident and pried Um and the three hit it off. Now,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>O'Connor had previously been part of a group that had

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>attempted to secure worldwide rights to Pulson's ar transmitter technologies,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 1>but that didn't work out for him that he still

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>had high hopes to get invested into the fledgling field

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of radio communications. So a connor really wanted to get

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>into radio, and to that end, he put Priedom and

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Ensign in charge of a new company called the Commercial

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Wireless and Development Company or c w d C. Now,

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the Incident PRIAM would mainly serve as the research and

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>development arm of this business. So when I say in charge,

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I meant they were really in charge of doing laboratory

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of experimentation. So their main job requirement was to

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>research radio physics and to patent anything that they might

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>invent as a result of their research, and thus they

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>would contribute to the company's success by filing patents, because

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 1>one way to make money is you make you make

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>these patents and then you license them out to other companies.

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>If you yourself cannot create your invention, you know, maybe

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.959
<v Speaker 1>you just don't have the manufacturing capacity, but some other

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>company can, then you can license your patent to that company.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They can make the stuff you you have designed at

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>scale and it becomes a real thing. So that's kind

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of what their job was, to research and patent stuff.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>So in the winter of nineteen eleven, O'Connor chose a

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>bungalow in Napa, California to serve as company headquarters. The

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>location was pretty remote, which would mean there'll be less

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>chance for radio interference, and Jansen would also meet a

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>woman named Vivian Steve's in Napa. The two would fall

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in love and get married and they started a family.

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>So Prittam and Jansen almost invented an improved telephone receiver.

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Now I say almost invented because as it turned out,

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>their idea actually followed similar ideas that others had already patented,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>but the possibility of them inventing something new would be

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>what would drive them to create the company Magnavox. Alright,

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So incon and Brittam had observed that an invention Poulson

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>had created one which had a thin wire that would

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>move very quickly due to magnetic attraction. So let's say

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you've got an electro magnet's got two poles. You would

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to attract this wire in the direction of

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the different poles. They figured they could adapt that so

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that they can have a wire that would drive a

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>diaphragm and generate sound waves. You know, push a diaphragm

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>at the same frequency as incoming sound waves and you

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>would create outgoing sound waves. In other words, they thought

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 1>up a way to make what they called an electro

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>dynamic speaker. See the way it works is that first

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you have a microphone and you speak into a microphone. This,

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the air waves that you create, the air

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.240
<v Speaker 1>fluctuations end up causing a diaphragm inside the microphone to vibrate.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>This vibration causes movement between a permanent magnet or an

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>electro magnet and a loop of conductive wire. Now, because

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of the effects of electro magnetism and induction. That movement

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>induces current to flow through the wire as it moves

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>through this magnetic field. This current essentially is a transformation

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of those original sound vibrations. You have transduced them. There's

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>transducer you know, is part of a microphone, so you

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>have created essentially a signal that represents sound. This signal

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>can then go to a setup that's identical, but it's

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>in reverse. So you fee this current to a device

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that then translates the electric current into physical movement again

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>through the use of a conductive coil and a magnet

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>which could be either eminent or electro magnet. And now

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the current going through the coil generates a magnetic field,

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and that magnetic field interacts with the permanent magnet and

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you get this attraction and repulsion and that creates the motion.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>The physical motion that transfers to the diaphragm, and the

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 1>vibrating diaphragm then recreates whatever the original sound was. So

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it's this fascinating process where you are taking energy, converting

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>it into a different type, and then converting it back

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>into the original type. Typically, you also have to boost

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the electric signal through this process, because it usually is

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>too weak to drive a diaphragm by itself. But you know,

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the basic idea was pretty solid, and it was also,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, an idea that other folks had kind

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of already come up with. So Jansen and pried Um they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they thought that maybe they had come onto

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<v Speaker 1>something new. They used a wire connected to a match stick,

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<v Speaker 1>and the match stick, in turn was connected to a diaphragm,

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<v Speaker 1>and they use that to create sound coming from a microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>So as electricity moved through the wire, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>attracted or repelled by some permanent magnets. And they found

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<v Speaker 1>that it worked. They presented a transmission of human speech

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<v Speaker 1>that was quote with exceptional strength and clarity end quote.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>They then refined that approach. They created a coil of

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<v Speaker 1>copper wire and they used stronger electro magnets to create

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<v Speaker 1>a speaker set in a soundbox to you know, help

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<v Speaker 1>amplify the sound and direct the sound. And they still

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<v Speaker 1>intended to use this as a telephone receiver, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty big and clunky. But in the process

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<v Speaker 1>of developing the invention, they were discouraged to receive a

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<v Speaker 1>rejection from the Patent Office, and that's when they found

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<v Speaker 1>out that their invention was similar to other patents that

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>already existed to cover this particular approach. They were able

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to patent the voice coil version of their idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was about it. They figured they had totally busted

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<v Speaker 1>on this deal. They couldn't that this would be really

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<v Speaker 1>that valuable because other people had patents that were too similar,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be really easy to create a different

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>variation of the same invention. They just thought, oh, well,

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we we worked, we gave it our best shot, but

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>we will we will not be able to get worldwide

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>rights to this general invention, so there's no way this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to become our fortune. And they almost dissolved

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the company at that point. Some of the investors were

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>reportedly ready to call it quits too, but O'Connor, you know,

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the soap and candle guy who must have been fed

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>up with wax, didn't want to pull the plug just yet.

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And then Jensen and Prinham happened to meet just the

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>right person at just the right time. That person was

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Jensen's wife's uncle, so Vivian's uncle, Ray Gal breath Um.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So I guess technically Jansen's uncle in law. Anyway, Galbreath

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<v Speaker 1>said if the two adapted their invention that it could

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<v Speaker 1>produce even louder noises, it might come in useful. And

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Galbreath liked to go to baseball games. The games he

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<v Speaker 1>went to, there was this one feller there who would

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<v Speaker 1>use a megaphone to make public announcements. But the megaphone,

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<v Speaker 1>which was you know, just a you know, a horn

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that would naturally amplify your volume a little bit, it

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't ideal because if you weren't sitting in front of

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the guy, like if you were off to the side

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>at all, you really couldn't hear what he was saying

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>very well, which meant he would have to move and

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>say the same thing many times. And he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what if you guys changed your invention so that

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>someone like this feller could talk to a microphone instead

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of megaphone, and then the signal could transmit to sound

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>boxes that played back the sound but at a much

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>higher volume, making it easier to hear and understand, well

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you incident. Prinim thought that such an invention would have

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a fairly limited application. They could see it being used

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in things like railroad you know, stations to announce on

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>oncoming trains and things like that. But they couldn't see

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>themselves getting rich from it. But they were also at

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a loss over what to do next, So they got

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to work create being an electro dynamic loud speaker. They

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>took their receiver and they paired it with a Gooseneck

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>horn from an Edison phonograph, you know, like the kind

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>has the old gramophones in it, you know, the horns

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>that came up from the what looked like an old turntable.

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<v Speaker 1>They incorporated a transformer to amplify the signal coming from

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the transmitter, and they ultimately made a speaker capable of

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>transmitting with a potential output of around twenty five what's

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know at the time, but they had just

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>made the most powerful speaker in the world up to

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that point. That I think is where we're going to

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>have to finish this particular episode, except I will say this.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say that that powerful speaker because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful, they thought of it as having a great voice,

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>great as in like Oz the great and powerful great.

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<v Speaker 1>So they decided they would name it uh Great Voice,

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but using Latin words which means they called it Magna Vox.

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I figured I had to get the name of the

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>company in here by the end or else it was

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna be a heck of a first episode in

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<v Speaker 1>this series, right, So in our next episode, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to learn more about this loud speaker, about the early

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>tests and how that was able to propel the company forward,

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and how Jensen and Printam would refine their designs. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>learn about the company actually taking on the name Magna Vox,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll learn about what happened in the company in

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the following years and what other contributions were made in

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the in the world of electronics. But this was just

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the first episode in that series, so I hope you

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this one. Stick with us because we're gonna cover

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>more about Magna Vox in the upcoming episodes, and if

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you have suggestions for topics I should cover in future

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