Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Dolores Catanya.
Speaker 3: Hell, how's it going, babe?
Speaker 1: Oh it's going good, going good. Did you see who
Speaker 1: I was with yesterday? Your second half, your other half?
Speaker 3: I saw that you were a tam.
Speaker 1: I we all missed you.
Speaker 2: I missed you guys who all looked beautiful. I saw
Speaker 2: that you were a tam. And then I got a
Speaker 2: message from Shep and I was like, what the hell
Speaker 2: Shep texted me at this time of day? And then
Speaker 2: it was him and a picture of Tam and I
Speaker 2: was like, when were they together?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: My gosh?
Speaker 1: It was the Upfront.
Speaker 2: Well, I loved it and I loved your dress. No,
Speaker 2: who's probably not loving life right now?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: Jesse from the Valley? H We've got a lot to
Speaker 2: talk about, so we do. We're it Day two of
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara. It starts out where Jesse is upset that
Speaker 2: he and Michelle aren't able to coexist in Santa Barbara.
Speaker 2: He decided he was triggered the night before and he
Speaker 2: wanted to leave, but decided not to. I was triggered
Speaker 2: by his underpants, fully.
Speaker 3: Triggered by his underpants. But then Michelle's.
Speaker 1: Underpants, well, because that's what they were. They were not boxers,
Speaker 1: they weren't any type of Yeah, like you know, when
Speaker 1: you have those undies too, let's call them panties, when
Speaker 1: his panties.
Speaker 2: When you have your panties for too long and they
Speaker 2: get all stretched out and they no longer have the
Speaker 2: elasticity in it.
Speaker 1: That's why I haven't worn panties enough since nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: eight to get them to that point. I don't wear
Speaker 1: them often.
Speaker 3: Do you wear thongs or do you go free only thongs?
Speaker 1: No? I go free. I go free too.
Speaker 3: I'm a free too.
Speaker 1: But I grew up thinking like that was slutty, right,
Speaker 1: Like my mother would be like, ah, what did I raise?
Speaker 1: You have no aunt of pants on? And I you know,
Speaker 1: but so I wear a thong when I have to,
Speaker 1: I have one on because I just had a lymphatic
Speaker 1: massage here. So I didn't want her to have to
Speaker 1: see this thing.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sure she would have been like, whoo.
Speaker 3: This thing is the door of him.
Speaker 1: It's cute, it's cute. I done some work on that
Speaker 1: so well, you.
Speaker 2: Know, we've all done a lot of work, so we
Speaker 2: gotta get we gotta make things happen. But then Michelle
Speaker 2: says she knew she would be bothered by him throwing
Speaker 2: the ball to her in the gratitude circle. And Michelle
Speaker 2: says Jesse is insane for thinking she would say something
Speaker 2: nice about him when he had just called her an escort.
Speaker 2: Then Jack's has already been texting Brittany this morning.
Speaker 3: Jack says he's.
Speaker 1: Rage texting the rage textive go ahead, he needs his
Speaker 1: ass beat. Okay, I understand he's going through so much.
Speaker 1: You've dragged this girl through the mud for the past
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years. Okay, you've put your
Speaker 1: family through hell. You're in rehab. You are not humbled,
Speaker 1: You are not on starting off on the right foot.
Speaker 1: You don't have any business rage texting, texting. You should
Speaker 1: be feeling like what I put this girl through. She
Speaker 1: deserves to be having a good time. Let me give
Speaker 1: her peace instead. No, this guy is not on the road.
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of don't.
Speaker 3: Get's two shits about Brittany.
Speaker 2: He cares about being on the show, and that's really
Speaker 2: what bothers me. He's upset because she's filming and he's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's upset that he's not at the casita or
Speaker 1: whatever you call that thing that they're at.
Speaker 2: Well, then I wondered at some point during this episode
Speaker 2: if maybe my tumors were getting bigger.
Speaker 1: Because I liked Zach health and.
Speaker 2: Michelle during this episode.
Speaker 1: Well, now Michelle will feel much better about Tamra calling
Speaker 1: her AI now that you're saying that you like her.
Speaker 2: I listen, I'm not saying I like her. I'm saying
Speaker 2: this episode, but this is what happens.
Speaker 1: We get to, you know, we can change the way
Speaker 1: we feel about people with the information or the things
Speaker 1: that happen, but we don't.
Speaker 2: We're given.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Zach didn't even.
Speaker 3: Bother me, and I did appreciate that.
Speaker 2: At some point in this episode, we found out that
Speaker 2: Zach is not wearing a tupe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 3: How about them apples?
Speaker 1: I am impressed?
Speaker 3: And then did.
Speaker 2: You notice that right after they said that, then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I could see his hairline. I was like,
Speaker 2: is that shady editors doing that? Because now I see
Speaker 2: his hairline.
Speaker 1: I know I think it was shady. I think it
Speaker 1: was a little shady at it. I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: but I'm okay with it. It was like it was fun shade.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I'll ruin your life shade.
Speaker 3: No, I liked it. I love that kind of shade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're looking for. Let's let's evolve into,
Speaker 1: you know, the shade we can come back from.
Speaker 3: And Jesse, my pal, my friend, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Why would you feel the need to drink two bottles
Speaker 2: of Corbell before you.
Speaker 3: Went wine tasting?
Speaker 2: That is never going to end well, I swear I
Speaker 2: think it said Corbell on the on the Champagnes.
Speaker 1: How about that hangoverhos, It's sugar and it's like a
Speaker 1: It's like, nothing's worse than a cheap hangover.
Speaker 2: Or bad decisions that you make when you're drinking Corbell,
Speaker 2: which I've made a ton of them, so you know, oh,
Speaker 2: I know, I mean Corbell and strawberry wine.
Speaker 1: It's a problem.
Speaker 3: Those were things.
Speaker 2: That I drank when I was younger, like South Carolina
Speaker 2: drinks and oh Shito.
Speaker 1: The sweet drinks.
Speaker 2: But the group goes wine tasting, but in my opinion,
Speaker 2: half of the group was already drunk before they left.
Speaker 1: They were one hunt. It's not your opinion, it's a fact.
Speaker 1: They were drunk. And they need to be drunk to function.
Speaker 2: To function in that hot ass van, Which doesn't that
Speaker 2: feel like such a production thing to happen, and the
Speaker 2: breaks down, they have something else.
Speaker 1: It's so musty when there's a long ride and everybody's
Speaker 1: just yeah, but I've been in those long ride van rides.
Speaker 1: How long do you think it was? Well, you know
Speaker 1: where they went.
Speaker 2: Right, and you know what, I'm guessing it was about
Speaker 2: a forty five minute drive.
Speaker 3: But a forty minute yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like hours. Well, they're in Santa Barbara.
Speaker 2: They're heading to wine country, so I'm guessing they're heading
Speaker 2: to Montecito area. So that's about forty five minutes and
Speaker 2: a sprinter van. But then they have to go back.
Speaker 2: They have to find a gas station. Everybody at this point,
Speaker 2: if they are wearing panties, those panties are soaked.
Speaker 1: Oh throw them out with their done.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesse's being pretty There's nothing worse than when one
Speaker 2: person's hammered and the rest of the people are just
Speaker 2: trying to get and Jesse's like dancing and grinding and.
Speaker 1: Doing Oh so annoying. It's so unless they're all drunk,
Speaker 1: that is not gonna work. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 2: So everybody's already annoyed at Jesse. Maybe Jesse's just trying
Speaker 2: to get and Jesse's.
Speaker 1: The one that planned the trip, like Jesse is trying
Speaker 1: too hard to plan this fun trip again another trip
Speaker 1: where I say it doesn't make sense that Michelle is there.
Speaker 2: No, why would she want to be there? But also
Speaker 2: my question is, in regards to Jesse, you had a
Speaker 2: shit night the night before you decided you wanted to stay.
Speaker 2: You had a moment of thinking you didn't want to stay,
Speaker 2: and then you're like, you know what a good idea
Speaker 2: would be to binge drink prior to leaving. No in
Speaker 2: my stretched out underpants and maybe he put on a
Speaker 2: new pair stretched out you think? Do you think they
Speaker 2: were white? You know they normally come into three packs,
Speaker 2: So do you think you wore a white pair?
Speaker 1: Black white? But they're like gray, dingy gray. Now they're
Speaker 1: light yellow and they have like, you know, residual marks
Speaker 1: on them. I mean, you know, so they're footing to death.
Speaker 2: Danny calls at one point, and Nia doesn't realize that
Speaker 2: the group is paying attention, and she is giving him
Speaker 2: a lashing. At this point, I'm wondering, why is she
Speaker 2: yelling at him so bad? Do you think Danny is
Speaker 2: potentially already tipsy as well? Because at some point I
Speaker 2: found out he drove back the night before he had
Speaker 2: to leave. He left, but then he came back. But
Speaker 2: then she was already yelling at him before he got
Speaker 2: to the winery. And he already seemed a little two
Speaker 2: sheets to the is it two sheets or three sheets?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 3: Three sheets to the wind when he arrived.
Speaker 1: Oh, so that's why she was yelling at him. Oh,
Speaker 1: I bet he took a car.
Speaker 2: He would have had to like, but I mean, I
Speaker 2: didn't think he was jogging, but I bet he took
Speaker 2: a car service.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably drinking some drinks.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, what about when they when it's cars are
Speaker 2: pouring by so fast going and then we see freaking
Speaker 2: Jesse out there trying to hitchhike?
Speaker 1: What what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: If you drove by that, would you be like, cold on,
Speaker 2: let me pick up this group of hot mess fucking expresses.
Speaker 1: No, No, unless I was a serial killer, No unless
Speaker 1: I wanted to you know, torture them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then they're at the wine tasting, which, in
Speaker 2: my past experiences, wine tasting has never ended up well
Speaker 2: on camera for me because I'm not one. I don't
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a sipper of anything, Like I'm
Speaker 2: not a sipper of this diet coke.
Speaker 1: I'm a swig. You do a swig? Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: half You're half the glass done. That would be me.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, wine tasting never ends well in
Speaker 1: any of the shows. If we can go back to
Speaker 1: Jersey circa like what was it twenty twenty, Like, let's
Speaker 1: go back like Jersey ten years ago, right, there was
Speaker 1: a wine tasting Joe who was on the cast at
Speaker 1: this point, you're not so it's Theresa, Joe, Jacqueline, Chris, Jacquelinine, Chris,
Speaker 1: Carolina and Albert and and Joe walked into the field
Speaker 1: to take a call during the wine tasting, and it's
Speaker 1: too drunk to realize everyone can hear him. God.
Speaker 2: I love when you don't realize how loud your voices
Speaker 2: when you're drunk, either like you're whispering, but meanwhile you're like.
Speaker 1: It didn't no movie voice.
Speaker 3: We need movie voice and amr.
Speaker 1: If there was ever a time where there should have
Speaker 1: been one, that was it. So, yeah, the wine tastings
Speaker 1: are trouble, but it makes good TV.
Speaker 2: Then Janet, you know, does the little joke to Zach
Speaker 2: and saying, you know we're not good When we were
Speaker 2: not good, I brought up the wig.
Speaker 3: They have this moment once again.
Speaker 2: Janet's joke didn't necessarily land, but I did appreciate it
Speaker 2: because I do think we got to the bottom of wiggate.
Speaker 2: Well we needed to, We needed it. Yeah, it landed
Speaker 2: just fine. Okay, it landed. It gave what it needed
Speaker 2: to give.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really care about how he felt about it.
Speaker 1: I needed that.
Speaker 2: I needed it too. But then Michelle and Jesse talk
Speaker 2: off to the side during wine tasting.
Speaker 3: Whoever thought this was a good idea?
Speaker 2: It was brilliant for us watching terrible for them in
Speaker 2: the middle of it.
Speaker 1: Well, isn't that just what's more important in us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we enjoyed it. Jesse says they need to have
Speaker 2: a serious conversation. Michelle tells them that she's happy besides
Speaker 2: him being in the picture.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a low blow, like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Ik wow, if he's missing. She is suspect number one.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what kind of alibi she got.
Speaker 2: She and Honeybee does not count as an alibi. I'm
Speaker 2: just putting it does not count.
Speaker 1: I don't care if she's in the hospital getting a
Speaker 1: kidney or whatever it is. It is she if he's missing,
Speaker 1: she's it. She did it well.
Speaker 2: Then she also says she's not happy with who Jesse
Speaker 2: is with. So this is the part where listen, she's
Speaker 2: she's getting me this episode when she loses it and
Speaker 2: starts screaming, I'm thrilled. But I'm like, just pretend you're
Speaker 2: happy be with who he's with, even if she's allegedly
Speaker 2: trying to come after the entire cast because she doesn't
Speaker 2: want her name mentioned. I do think there is something
Speaker 2: to it. If you're not on the show, you're not paying,
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 1: Getting paid, you're not on the payroll.
Speaker 3: You're allowed to say I don't want to be talked about.
Speaker 1: I've hundred percent. But then don't go out with someone
Speaker 1: who's on the show.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 1: You know. This is it's no secret what we do
Speaker 1: for a living, and right out of the box, unless
Speaker 1: someone lies to you, it's no secret that our lives
Speaker 1: have to be transparent. So that's a conversation that needs
Speaker 1: to be had. Date one hour one. How about even
Speaker 1: before the date, just in case something happens.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, and I don't think before date one she
Speaker 2: was unclear about what he did for a living.
Speaker 1: She wasn't.
Speaker 2: She wasn't, but don't you worry. Michelle also takes this time.
Speaker 2: We get a flat back of why she doesn't like
Speaker 2: the girlfriend.
Speaker 3: But if I were her, I probably just.
Speaker 2: Would pretend that I was happy with the girlfriend, just
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't want to talk to Jesse about it anymore.
Speaker 1: Teddy a hundred, how about just pretend that you like
Speaker 1: the girl so that he gets happy with someone and
Speaker 1: you have to deal with him less.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then hopefully the girl is somewhat decent and
Speaker 2: you can deal with her instead of him.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Let's let's you know what, They hate each
Speaker 1: other too much for people that don't like each other.
Speaker 1: That's like a little bit. I agree.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1: You guys aren't together anymore. Getting divorced is is like
Speaker 1: a formality, But the fuck the way you fucking fight
Speaker 1: is like two people who give a shit about each other.
Speaker 3: They give a lot of shits off.
Speaker 1: Knock it off. If somebody said, listen, if there's people
Speaker 1: that say stuff about us all the time, Teddy May,
Speaker 1: we we don't know them, We have no idea who
Speaker 1: they are. We don't care. We don't care about them.
Speaker 1: They have no bearing on our life. Michelle like is
Speaker 1: fighting with him like it's her high school boyfriend. Stop.
Speaker 2: But also Jesse, the hooker joke didn't land the first time,
Speaker 2: it's most certainly not going to land the second.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he's that funny, Like there's somebody
Speaker 1: who could have said that joke and it would be funny.
Speaker 1: And then there's there's Jesse.
Speaker 3: I think that's a problem.
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden, once this kind of pulls,
Speaker 2: you know, we see it going south, even more south
Speaker 2: than the hooker joke. And then we see the other
Speaker 2: side of Michelle, the one where I was like golf collaps.
Speaker 2: I like you this episode where she just starts screaming
Speaker 2: at him and she's like, you've gone through our money.
Speaker 3: Don't make me.
Speaker 2: Prove it, Like this is the situation where.
Speaker 1: No woman says, don't make me prove it. You run
Speaker 1: better run When someone says that, because I've said that,
Speaker 1: and I'll be second frightened, don't make me prove it
Speaker 1: like I'm not kidding as Frank Catania.
Speaker 2: Well, what about when she says, not only did you
Speaker 2: spend all my money? Jesse says he's going to pull
Speaker 2: something up on his phone related to his money.
Speaker 3: What are you going to pull up your Bank of.
Speaker 1: A Chase account with your face? Oh, and then the
Speaker 1: number comes up, then it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be like eleven thousand dollars twenty two?
Speaker 1: Great, Wow, is the cheaper? Maybe think about getting back
Speaker 1: Honey's up these days though Honey's expensive.
Speaker 2: Honey is expensive. But they're yelling at each other.
Speaker 1: The girl's yelling at her for cheating. Who cares? You
Speaker 1: don't even care? You don't like her?
Speaker 3: Who likes her?
Speaker 2: He said, she's the only one that can get under
Speaker 2: my skin.
Speaker 1: Well, then you're a fool. Then, yeah, if you cared
Speaker 1: about her that much, you should have been a little nicer.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was that nice to her.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they were that into.
Speaker 2: I think she was probably always trying to pull something
Speaker 2: out of him that potentially is not there. And when
Speaker 2: she kept trying to get a different type of Jesse.
Speaker 2: Then she would get really pissed, and then she would
Speaker 2: be the one that yells. I don't think he ever yells.
Speaker 2: I think he'd rather sit there quietly and make you
Speaker 2: look stupid.
Speaker 1: He sits there. I've seen this before. I know guys
Speaker 1: like this. He sits there and gets you all worked
Speaker 1: up and gets off on you going nuts. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop. He doesn't stop. He doesn't stop until
Speaker 1: he's put you over the edge and he wants to
Speaker 1: see you have that reaction. Then he's happy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then we find out later which we'll get into this,
Speaker 3: and then brings you to a trip.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then he takes you on a trip.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then when they start screaming at each other, Michelle says,
Speaker 2: you know this is about Isabella and you know she
Speaker 2: got birthday money and Jesse took it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's not all about?
Speaker 3: Why else would you be getting money from a gay man?
Speaker 2: And if if he wasn't also a hooker?
Speaker 1: Uh, well, I want to know.
Speaker 2: I want to know anybody.
Speaker 1: Nothing's for free, Nothing in this life is for free.
Speaker 1: So you get money from a gay.
Speaker 2: Guy, I really want to just look at me it
Speaker 2: was so let's say it was a birthday gift for
Speaker 2: Isabella that was money, Which was it.
Speaker 1: Like I give like five hundred dollars?
Speaker 3: Like five hundred dollars. Let's call him really quick.
Speaker 1: Who are you calling, Jesse? Teddy? You are fucking fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dam ever warned me about this answer
Speaker 1: this is available.
Speaker 2: We'll leave him a voicemail. Hey, Jesse, it's Teddy and Dolores.
Speaker 2: We just had a quick question for you. The money
Speaker 2: that received during Isabella's birthday? Was it more or less
Speaker 2: than five hundred dollars? If you could get back to
Speaker 2: us within the next fifteen minutes, that would be amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Because you we're live on the pod.
Speaker 3: Say hi to Lores.
Speaker 1: Oh hi, Jesse. I'm really dying of here. We're dying here, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Soon we're on for a little bit, so we'll be
Speaker 1: waiting for you.
Speaker 2: We'll be waiting bye bye. Because if it's like seventy
Speaker 2: five dollars, then this is a ridiculous argument. If it's
Speaker 2: like one thousand dollars, but you give five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: to a kid's birthday, even if it's not like a
Speaker 2: bar bot Mitzvah type situation, or a thirteenth birthday?
Speaker 1: Ye, like a thirteenth like I spend like a few
Speaker 1: hundred I love to got by gifts.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well, anyways, during this time, uh, the other dude,
Speaker 2: Danny is deciding to get hammered hammered Danny's Does Danny have.
Speaker 1: A little bit of an issue?
Speaker 2: Maybe Danny Sims had a little bit of a skew,
Speaker 2: especially once we find out he's sneaking. But I don't
Speaker 2: even know if he has an issue or he's just
Speaker 2: so scared of Nia.
Speaker 1: That I should be scared of her. She has three
Speaker 1: nooses around his neck right now, and she's working on
Speaker 1: a fourth. So I'd be really careful if I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: so doing voiceovers till he's five hundred years old.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, can we discuss a couple other things
Speaker 2: that happened at wine tasting before we move on to
Speaker 2: back at the house.
Speaker 3: What about when he.
Speaker 2: Okay, what exactly did Jesse say? Like this reminds me
Speaker 2: of And he didn't say positano. He said something that
Speaker 2: wasn't a town. Oh, hold on, Jesse Lally, who cares
Speaker 2: about anything else? I was going to say go home, Jesse,
Speaker 2: it's Teddy. You're live on air with Doutie's in a pod.
Speaker 2: We're not going to grill too much because we've already
Speaker 2: given you enough heat this episode, but we want to
Speaker 2: know how much money you were sent for Isabella's birthday
Speaker 2: and was it for Isabella's birthday or was it for
Speaker 2: special favors?
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I think there was a lot of confusion about you know,
Speaker 4: in the yelling and screaming. But this person that Michelle
Speaker 4: had been accused of getting money from, it was a yes,
Speaker 4: he did send money when Isabella was born as a gift,
Speaker 4: and he sent us money because he was not at
Speaker 4: our wedding as a wedding gift. But the money that
Speaker 4: she was accused of getting was a random day in
Speaker 4: September and a random day in another month, so it
Speaker 4: just didn't add up. And then she liked to deflect
Speaker 4: away from you know, the truth about her by saying
Speaker 4: that I was getting money for my birthday from one
Speaker 4: of one of our oldest friends. But she decided to
Speaker 4: throw out that I was getting money from a gay guy,
Speaker 4: but then followed it up with on my birthday. So
Speaker 4: I think there's a little confusion about the money swamp
Speaker 4: with regards to all of that.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this makes more sense because we were confused.
Speaker 2: So you got money for your own birthday from a.
Speaker 4: Front friends who was at our wedding, who traveled to
Speaker 4: Italy with us, who you know, we we spent summers
Speaker 4: at his house in the Hamptons, Michelle and I. So
Speaker 4: she was just using that as an ex excuse to
Speaker 4: deflect away from having the conversation about her.
Speaker 2: And then the only other thing that we're going to
Speaker 2: ask you quickly and Delores, he can't hear you. So
Speaker 2: that's why I'm asking both the questions. But what do
Speaker 2: you get a little bit of a rise when you
Speaker 2: can get her upset and she's gonna yell at you?
Speaker 3: Are you like glutton for punishment?
Speaker 4: You know that was a year ago and we literally
Speaker 4: she had just moved out two months before, you know,
Speaker 4: we'd gone away together.
Speaker 1: She had just filed for divorce a month before.
Speaker 4: We were still in that like who's going to win
Speaker 4: the battle phase of our operation, and it was very
Speaker 4: tick for Tad.
Speaker 1: Every argument we.
Speaker 4: Got into, and you know, I was trying to push
Speaker 4: her a button.
Speaker 1: She was getting under my skin and I.
Speaker 4: Think we've grown in the last year from from that experience.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then one lighter question, why were you drinking
Speaker 2: corbell before you guys went.
Speaker 1: That? I that I was not Corbelle. I think it
Speaker 1: was Della motte Blanc de blanc.
Speaker 2: Oh boogie, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 4: And when I said something about champagne and they cut
Speaker 4: to me pouring prosecco, I know the difference. We were
Speaker 4: actually making apparol sprits, not drinking straight prosecco.
Speaker 3: Because I would never do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you so much for your time and
Speaker 2: we will talk later, and thank you for clearing that
Speaker 2: up because we were very confused.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm super excited that I finally get to meet
Speaker 4: Dolores over the phone because we've never met in person,
Speaker 4: and all I've hurd is her talk so highly of
Speaker 4: me on the podcast.
Speaker 1: So don't worry today it changed, you know what.
Speaker 4: We had ten more episodes after after tonight, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1: A lot of things will change, trust me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're only as good as this week's episode. But
Speaker 2: thanks Jesse for answering.
Speaker 4: All Right, how are you feeling today?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: I'll call you later. Bye. I didn't realize that she
Speaker 2: was first accused of a money steal, and I also
Speaker 2: didn't realize that this was just only two months after.
Speaker 1: That was a very productive conversation.
Speaker 3: We got a lot done there.
Speaker 1: So if they did, you did, I'm telling you that's
Speaker 1: why you're the boss.
Speaker 2: That's what Listen. Keep calling me the boss and people answer.
Speaker 2: People answer to you.
Speaker 1: No, they they probably wouldn't have answered, like New Jersey
Speaker 1: phone number.
Speaker 2: Oh, he loves that you're from New Jersey because he
Speaker 2: is from the East Coast, and he always says Laurus
Speaker 2: just says things like the way we want to say.
Speaker 2: Like there's sometimes that I'll be like I'm going to
Speaker 2: kill that person. I'm gonna kick that person's ass. But
Speaker 2: I'm not really going to do any of those things.
Speaker 3: It's just the way we talk on these sides.
Speaker 1: No, I know you're not right exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he loves that. So then they head back
Speaker 2: where still we were confused, but now we're not because
Speaker 2: of our clearly amazing detective skills. I mean, but we
Speaker 2: also need to know do we believe everything that Jesse says?
Speaker 1: Do we do? I do? Do I think he's being accurate?
Speaker 1: I don't think he had to think about what he
Speaker 1: was saying for one second, and I think that he
Speaker 1: just you know, it's all the way, it's all in presentation.
Speaker 1: It's all the way something is said. I don't know
Speaker 1: that she said anything so different. It was the way
Speaker 1: she said it. When you say it alluding to something else. However,
Speaker 1: you can you can kind of like force a narrative
Speaker 1: behind something the way you present something. Of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I get the she's hurt and
Speaker 2: two months post like when you're just getting divorced, you're
Speaker 2: fucking They were.
Speaker 1: In the thick of it. They were filming, Teddy, think
Speaker 1: about this. They were filming in the hot heat, in
Speaker 1: the thick of their divorce or their separation and the fighting.
Speaker 1: That's not fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, I even think about, like if I were
Speaker 2: having to film pre knowing I had tumors with Edwin,
Speaker 2: that would have been brutal. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. That's exactly what's going on over there.
Speaker 1: But somehow they're.
Speaker 2: Back at the house. Janet sees Danny chugging tequila in
Speaker 2: the pantry. Then Jesse texted Michelle on the way back
Speaker 2: to talk privately.
Speaker 3: This part I kind of missed.
Speaker 2: I didn't really see texted her to talk privately, but
Speaker 2: I apparently did.
Speaker 3: Then she comes up stairs.
Speaker 2: Jesse questions why Michelle can't be happy for him.
Speaker 3: Michelle asks why he's so obsessed with this other woman?
Speaker 2: That's what makes care?
Speaker 1: What is Michelle? What do you care? What do you care?
Speaker 2: What do you care? I wish you would have said
Speaker 2: in that moment. I wish she would have been like, Jesse,
Speaker 2: I don't like the way that you treat me. I
Speaker 2: would have thought that if you're so a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Huh, Michelle has said that a lot of time.
Speaker 2: I know. But then bringing it back to the chick,
Speaker 2: I don't care about the chick. She's not on the show.
Speaker 2: I'm not watching her. At least Honeybee is on the
Speaker 2: show sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's buzzing around over there. What does she care
Speaker 1: what he's doing?
Speaker 2: Then Michelle says Isabella is calling her a second mom.
Speaker 2: That actually, I'm wondering how that could happen so quick,
Speaker 2: because now we know this is post. They're just separated
Speaker 2: two months or they're just divorced two months.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Isabella said.
Speaker 2: Isabella may have said that, but what else did we
Speaker 2: hear Isabella say?
Speaker 1: But she also said that Aaron loves him, that she
Speaker 1: loves Aaron. I said that, she said, So, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want Isabella to be happy and to like the
Speaker 1: people that are around and if they're good for her,
Speaker 1: I want so all that matters is Isabella right now.
Speaker 1: And all this petty nonsense fighting that I see between
Speaker 1: the two of them, which was a year ago? Fair enough, Jesse?
Speaker 1: Fair enough? Was what was a year ago? Better be
Speaker 1: long gone? It better be long gone, because none of
Speaker 1: it's worth it.
Speaker 3: And then but then we get into a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Then we get into a little bit more Jesse than
Speaker 2: triples down, calls her a lying, cheating whore, prompting her
Speaker 2: to throw a glass of water. How do we know
Speaker 2: it's water, by the way, a glass of clear liquid
Speaker 2: that could essentially be anything in his face.
Speaker 1: Well, in where I come from, it would be like
Speaker 1: lie or acid, or that happens a lot Patterson.
Speaker 2: But then Michelle then goes down the stairs and shouts
Speaker 2: that Jesse refused to hug and kiss her or tell
Speaker 2: her that she was beautiful and spent all of their money.
Speaker 3: I did kind of believe her a little bit in
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 2: But now that I talked to Jesse, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: now I'm all torn back and forth, but I do want.
Speaker 1: To know She said he doesn't pay child support. She
Speaker 1: said that last week.
Speaker 2: So we also saw in an interviewed Michelle said, I mean,
Speaker 2: how can we even trust Jesse? He cried for three
Speaker 2: weeks when his dog passed away. I'm sorry, isn't that kind?
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I would trust him right, That
Speaker 1: is putting Jesse right now for me ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: If he cared that much about his dog and cried
Speaker 1: over his dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then she said she I will cry.
Speaker 2: Then she says she's done with jessin we'll only see
Speaker 2: him when picking up and dropping off Isabella, which I
Speaker 2: do not believe when you see them in the next season,
Speaker 2: in the next episode and the next all the things.
Speaker 2: But would you do you blame Michelle for throwing the
Speaker 2: water in Jesse's face? No? No, me neither.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I haven't ever done that before, but like, maybe it's
Speaker 2: something I should do.
Speaker 1: If it makes you feel good.
Speaker 3: I think you should have you thrown liquid in somebody's face.
Speaker 2: Is that illegal?
Speaker 1: No, No, spitting in someone's face is illegal.
Speaker 3: That I do know.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a physical person, like I'll try to
Speaker 1: hurt them and hit them. Throwing water in somebody's face
Speaker 1: does nothing for me. That doesn't get my rage going. Like,
Speaker 1: but I did at least calm my rage down. I
Speaker 1: did at least appreciate she really flung it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a gin aid and like like halfway
Speaker 2: like sprinkle water, Like she really went for it with
Speaker 2: the water, Like that water is not going to miss
Speaker 2: his face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, well, you know you say certain
Speaker 1: things that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then we get to dinner. Danny's passed out
Speaker 2: in the bed at this point. Nia is working overtime
Speaker 2: to make sure that that dude does not wake up.
Speaker 2: She's like, whatever happens, he cannot wake up. And I
Speaker 2: don't really care that much about anything else that happens
Speaker 2: at dinner except.
Speaker 1: How REVVD up Britney.
Speaker 2: And all the other girls except for Kristen get that
Speaker 2: they're allowing him to sleep through dinner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like there's a reason I think he's a
Speaker 1: different person when he's drong.
Speaker 2: I do question Brittany, and I mean I do question
Speaker 2: Nia and Danny's authenticity sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think that there is a reason that she's trying
Speaker 1: to hide a part of him and keep him where
Speaker 1: he is, because I've been around people who drink and
Speaker 1: then they go to a different like there becomes a
Speaker 1: different person.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a different side. You can't be
Speaker 2: that happy and over the top all the time, do
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can be, but it doesn't last that long.
Speaker 1: That's not a sustainable happiness. Like it could be that way,
Speaker 1: like for months at a time, or like a season
Speaker 1: at a time, but it like I believe that there's
Speaker 1: times they're probably like that, and there's times there's not.
Speaker 1: How could you be like that all the time with
Speaker 1: three kids under three?
Speaker 3: He says, and and.
Speaker 1: In your bedroom, Like no, either you just accept the
Speaker 1: misery and you're happy and you lie to yourself that
Speaker 1: you're happy with every day waking up to changing diapers
Speaker 1: or or or they're not being around. They could just
Speaker 1: be like you know, sometimes you fake it till you
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but then there was you know, there's
Speaker 2: conversation about Brittany who won't give up her phone because
Speaker 2: she wants to see the messages that Zach is and.
Speaker 1: Then to me, no Jack Jack, Oh yeah, Jack's But.
Speaker 2: Then at that same moment, yeah, but she she wants
Speaker 2: I think she's been so deep into it. But then
Speaker 2: I think the comment that Nia makes is what sets
Speaker 2: over the top, because Zach is ac asking for the phone,
Speaker 2: and then Nia is like, this is pure toxicity, and
Speaker 2: meanwhile like they're not taking ownership for what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on in their situation?
Speaker 1: Who is it? And Denny? But then this is where
Speaker 1: we don't know. That's speculation, Teddy, True, that is speculation.
Speaker 1: We're just speculating that they're not happy.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're happy, but I think happy people can
Speaker 2: still get fucked up and do shitty things.
Speaker 3: Of course, But then.
Speaker 2: Zach does his work again. Zach's back on the up
Speaker 2: and ups with us. But Zach does his work again.
Speaker 2: He pulls me aside to tell her the group was
Speaker 2: talking about her. She retucks in Danny and Danny's upset
Speaker 2: that she didn't wake him up.
Speaker 3: But then don't you worry? Zach led her write on why.
Speaker 1: Was it such a big deal that she let him sleep?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Seem I actually feel different about this because I've been
Speaker 2: in one of those situations. So a wine, so wine
Speaker 2: tasting in Provence. Right after the wine tasting, there was
Speaker 2: a two hour break in filming, and then we had
Speaker 2: to do a dinner, and.
Speaker 3: I was drunk.
Speaker 2: And I went like we were doing dancing and all
Speaker 2: kinds of things off camera, like where we could play
Speaker 2: music like Vogue. We were dancing, and then I took
Speaker 2: a little nappy pill, and then I remember having to
Speaker 2: be woken up to eat the cast dinner in Provence.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying you're there to work, buddy, just
Speaker 1: your production made him get his ass up because we
Speaker 1: need content. Yeah, that's you're right now.
Speaker 2: You can't sleep through your ship just because you're fucking drunk.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: It really bugged me, Like I went up and made
Speaker 2: it if you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Be if we want to see de generary drunk grabbing
Speaker 1: asses and getting in trouble right now, that's all we knew,
Speaker 1: saying things they shouldn't say, shitting on everybody.
Speaker 3: You don't get to sleep through it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you don't get to sleep it off in
Speaker 2: the middle of a day.
Speaker 3: Cast dinner, full cast dinner.
Speaker 2: You're right, sorry, it made me mad, but then you
Speaker 2: know any who, Uh, they walk Brittany over, They walk
Speaker 2: Nia over to where Brittany is just Brittany and Jasmine
Speaker 2: are out of ten furious and Nia hears it.
Speaker 3: But then the way Nia handles it was perfection.
Speaker 1: She goes.
Speaker 3: Brittany goes, it's not fair.
Speaker 2: I have to share my whole life about all these
Speaker 2: terrible things and your husband is drunk and you're not
Speaker 2: even talking about it. And she goes, yeah, he's drunk.
Speaker 2: DNA diffuse the situation. She's like, yeah, he's back and drunk.
Speaker 2: I want him to sleep.
Speaker 1: That's the way you diffuse any situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, own it. That was beauty. That was artwork.
Speaker 1: Nia.
Speaker 2: You might be cut out for reality television after that line.
Speaker 3: You just nipped it right in the thumb.
Speaker 1: But there anything no but to echo what you're saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: so she gave a good answer, he's drunk, but where
Speaker 1: is he? Wake him up?
Speaker 2: If you get the little.
Speaker 3: Tap tap, hey, what would you?
Speaker 2: Because I think about normal life if I was at
Speaker 2: a one night getaway with my significant other and he
Speaker 2: got himself drunk and then fell asleep for three hours
Speaker 2: and then we were supposed to go out to dinner.
Speaker 3: You bet your ass. I would have woken him up,
Speaker 3: So that's real life.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, by myself.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I love to do everything by myself.
Speaker 2: But if we had come together, the old Teddy would
Speaker 2: have woken up my my husband and been like, we're
Speaker 2: coming together. You're getting it together, and get in the
Speaker 2: shower and pull it together. But the girls are just
Speaker 2: so excited to announce that he was chugging tequila and
Speaker 2: mac and cheese.
Speaker 3: Why didn't they show us the chugging of tequila.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 3: Were they taking a break?
Speaker 2: Was it a break? It might have been a break
Speaker 2: where I napped.
Speaker 1: No one has a cell phone.
Speaker 3: They're not professionals. This is only season two.
Speaker 2: They don't know that you pull out the cell phone
Speaker 2: any video and then they can use then they use it.
Speaker 1: No, they've been around of all time.
Speaker 2: Oh so this is kind of calculated because there was
Speaker 2: a camera up faced towards the pantry, but you couldn't
Speaker 2: see inside of the pantry, so we.
Speaker 3: Don't know what the hell he was doing in there.
Speaker 2: It was only Janet that could see because she was
Speaker 2: making her mac and cheese.
Speaker 1: Listen, things happen in pantries too on these shows. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, where was the summerhouse pantry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of things happened in the pantry. Don't
Speaker 2: put the pantries in the corner.
Speaker 1: No, don't sleep on the pantries.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks you guys for tuning in to another episode
Speaker 2: of to Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp,
Speaker 2: and Dolores Skitana. We appreciate you, guys. This was a
Speaker 2: good episode and we'll be back later this week.