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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliott, Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought Us,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and welcome to a Thursday
Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys. I'd say we're about halfway to
Speaker 1: the Lions game and we have a halfway edition of
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys to get started. We're in the halfway house.
Speaker 1: Oh now, we're in the three quarters house. Mickey, you
Speaker 1: might want to get that door as you come in here.
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, after doing local radio, it brought us is missing.
Speaker 1: Brought us is missing an act to start the show today.
Speaker 1: That's serious. If he is, it's exactly right, because there's
Speaker 1: no one as committed to this show as Brian brought us.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say no, I'd say, Mickey's pretty close. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But when you're doing when you're writing scoutside, you gotta
Speaker 1: make sure your eyes are good and checked and the
Speaker 1: vision is good. And that's where he's at right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: the eye doctor. He couldn't change it and hopefully he's
Speaker 1: back by the end of the show. We'll see. Okay,
Speaker 1: he plans to be here, So we turned the halfway
Speaker 1: house into the three quarters House for now. Was he
Speaker 1: having trouble with his eyes or I just think it's
Speaker 1: a regular checkup, nothing, nothing to be armed about. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he's fine. We're all healthy. You're healthy. I
Speaker 1: am healthy. People questioning his eyesight when it comes to
Speaker 1: some players or watching tape, right, where's out exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that could be a problem. You can understand that
Speaker 1: part of the gig. Yeah, that's right. This is my
Speaker 1: eye appointment. I guess I can miss talking cowboys if
Speaker 1: I have an eye important. Oh boy, I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: Oh god, all right, No, I have one coming up. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've put off mine. I'm I've been getting I've getting
Speaker 1: text messages from my IDA. Well, you know, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wear glasses to read, right, So I
Speaker 1: go in every year and I know what they're gonna
Speaker 1: tell me, Well, yeah, your eyes aren't getting any better.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't need you to tell me that
Speaker 1: they told you cataract surgery. No, they have not told
Speaker 1: me that you've told me that. Really, Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: cataractor glaucoma. Cataract glaucoma surgery. You guys aren't that old.
Speaker 1: It happened because, yeah, you start not seeing well at night.
Speaker 1: I haven't really noticed that. I just wait for a
Speaker 1: regular check up. And he said, you know what, we
Speaker 1: probably you'd probably need to have cataract surgery because I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to do the laser. I'll wark contacts, right,
Speaker 1: And Ninny tells me it's just I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even need contacts anymore, so why not get it done.
Speaker 1: Then I talked to all these other people. They've have
Speaker 1: had it done. It's no problem, you know, But I
Speaker 1: just haven't done it, you know. Yeah, he said that
Speaker 1: at some point it'll be You'll just wake up one
Speaker 1: day and it's you'll be I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: is it cloud over? Yeah? Exactly how how it works.
Speaker 1: And then I'm told that when you're driving, like at night,
Speaker 1: the I drive at night a lot, the lights, the
Speaker 1: lights coming at you, it starts glaring like it's not clear,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of an idea that it's coming out
Speaker 1: like driving drunk. Well, I don't know about that, not
Speaker 1: that I do that. It's the same effect. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: we're not all that healthy on this show. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, young Rob over there,
Speaker 1: this is what you have to look forward to, you
Speaker 1: know what. The trainers, The trainers have all He's told
Speaker 1: me that. You you know, when they check somebody's back
Speaker 1: and they got a little something wrong, he goes, you
Speaker 1: know what, if I checked your back, I probably find
Speaker 1: you know, nine out of ten people have something wrong
Speaker 1: that they don't know, and you just kind of live
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, it's like you're you're you're spine, you know,
Speaker 1: the curvage, you know, not right, And if you don't
Speaker 1: know about it, that's that's because you don't think about it.
Speaker 1: Then that's so it makes it worse when you think
Speaker 1: about it. Like I haven't thought about cataract surgery in
Speaker 1: a year and I've been just fine. So if I
Speaker 1: just quit thinking about it, that I won't need it. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't want the glock coma Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my grandmother hadad Yeah, okay, And so we await the
Speaker 1: arrival of Brian brought us at a full report on
Speaker 1: his I docked your appointment coming up shortly. Here, I'm
Speaker 1: talking cowboys. I hope it's better than his finger report.
Speaker 1: What was that? Well, he's had trouble with his fingers, right,
Speaker 1: I think we're okay, We're okay, We're okay, we're okay.
Speaker 1: At least we don't have any It was your foot
Speaker 1: infectious disease visit to the infectious disease doctor. I was cleared, okay,
Speaker 1: told me that everything was fine on Sunday or yes,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I I'm not even listed on
Speaker 1: the injury report. All right, I gotta all right. I've
Speaker 1: got a second daughter now that listens to talking cowboys,
Speaker 1: and she's learning so much about football, and so we'll
Speaker 1: get eventually get to football. Here. What was her text yesterday?
Speaker 1: Let me see here you find it. You know it's
Speaker 1: somewhere on a group text. Let me go back to
Speaker 1: the group text. You guys are in a little He
Speaker 1: played that one yesterday. I heard it. I heard it.
Speaker 1: I listened to the show yesterday. Aren't you proud of me? Yes? Yet?
Speaker 1: That that's why I figured we didn't need football football
Speaker 1: talk today? Um? What did she say? I'm learning so
Speaker 1: much about football thanks to Dad's podcast. Where you go.
Speaker 1: All right, So we've got Jordan and Jessica board. Just
Speaker 1: need to get Jennifer aboard now. But but Jordan said something,
Speaker 1: it's it's so fun when y'all pick on Mickey. Oh, thanks,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's my favorite thing. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, who's got a report from practice yesterday? Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: does you want to pass it over to me? And
Speaker 1: then that information? Uh, there were a couple guys limited
Speaker 1: in the game and the practice. Jeff Heath, why don't
Speaker 1: you pass it to me and I'll do it Beasley,
Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead and do it here since I
Speaker 1: wrote the update. MALIEK. Collins, Travis Frederick, of course, Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee not practicing. Don't expect Sean to play in this game.
Speaker 1: Not sure about Malik uh Cole Beasley limited, Jeff Heath limited,
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods has a groin injury. Their new defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He was limited, DeMarcus Lawrence Xavier Woods full. So I
Speaker 1: think and I think they feel pretty good about Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath playing this game too. Um, he's just trying to
Speaker 1: be He's a football player. He's a football players playing football.
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to up his workload as the
Speaker 1: week goes on. I think that's right. That's what he said,
Speaker 1: that Wednesday is not a good day, but by Sunday
Speaker 1: it becomes good. He said he got his ankles stepped on,
Speaker 1: so it's more of a bruise than a sprain, it
Speaker 1: sounds like. And he came back and finished the game,
Speaker 1: so he said, yesterday, yeah, I mean he was limited.
Speaker 1: I saw him when they were doing drills and he
Speaker 1: was just kind of watching. But he'll be there, don't
Speaker 1: you worry about that. Layton Vanderesh had about forty media
Speaker 1: members around his locker yesterday, which happens to be right
Speaker 1: next to Sean Lee's. He's not sure if that was
Speaker 1: by design, that was no, let's assured. There's a reason
Speaker 1: that you're next to Shawn Lee. He must not have
Speaker 1: read my mix shot last week when I pointed that out,
Speaker 1: and it's like, this didn't just have Yeah, that's not coincident.
Speaker 1: Now there's a locker in between him, right, Yeah, But
Speaker 1: that's Sean's benefit. You know, if you're one of the captains,
Speaker 1: are the big vets on this team, you kind of
Speaker 1: get a break. You get an extra locker because you
Speaker 1: can have a big group around you for interviews. There
Speaker 1: you go. That's the sole reason they do that. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the only reason. Yeah, I don't know. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't have a feel for Sean right now, but
Speaker 1: I don't this week. I don't think looks good. And well,
Speaker 1: I can tell you rather definitively that it's not looking
Speaker 1: good for this week. Yeah. I've been missus at least
Speaker 1: two games, he asked Jason Garrett during the Well, you'll
Speaker 1: see it on the Jason Garrett Show, and normally we
Speaker 1: don't discuss injuries whatever, but I mean everybody's day to day.
Speaker 1: He basically said that, yeah, we'll be without Sean this week. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you can hear that Saturday night is Saturday Night eleven.
Speaker 1: It gets posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com as well,
Speaker 1: so it's no secret. And and the gist of the
Speaker 1: question was, you're better fortified at that position now. They
Speaker 1: feel better about it knowing that if they probably were
Speaker 1: going to face this at some point during this season,
Speaker 1: because it's happened every year. Well, and I think that
Speaker 1: was the impetus for using that first round draft choice
Speaker 1: on LVE. You know, it's like, Okay, we need a
Speaker 1: more depth at this linebacker spot, and I think they
Speaker 1: acquired it, but not only with him, but Joe Thomas too,
Speaker 1: And of course they were also filling the loss of
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchenses. Yeah, absolutely, you know, and they you know.
Speaker 1: And and the other good thing is is I think
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's more qualified now. And that's the first thing
Speaker 1: that Jason said is he talked about Jaylen Smith being
Speaker 1: more qualified to be able to fill those shoes. Now
Speaker 1: it's a matter of who's going to fill his leadership shoes.
Speaker 1: Who's going to fill the shoes that says, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: in zone coverage here, Cavan, you know, make sure you're
Speaker 1: deep here when the guy gets past you not have
Speaker 1: a fifty two yard coverage bust like they did against Seattle.
Speaker 1: And those are the things I think Sean, you know,
Speaker 1: brings to the table more than anything else. Now, drive
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. After the Cowboys pulled within striking
Speaker 1: distance in the late third quarter of that game and
Speaker 1: Lee was not on the feet, Yeah, exactly, somebody's got
Speaker 1: to take charge. And I don't expect it to be
Speaker 1: vander Esh. Yeah you think so, and and you probably
Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday the difference without Sean and there,
Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony Hitchens is a guy that got paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money to go somewhere else and be
Speaker 1: a starter, And there was a difference when he was
Speaker 1: the point man instead of Sean Lee. So it just
Speaker 1: shows you kind of he's a rare guy in terms
Speaker 1: of his instincts and his preparation. But I was impressed
Speaker 1: listening to vander Esh in terms of just kind of
Speaker 1: tell you can tell he's a serious guy. And his
Speaker 1: teammates talk about it too. He sounded confident. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm out there and that's my job, I'm speaking up.
Speaker 1: You know. You can you can see it the way
Speaker 1: they play on the field too, how quickly they react.
Speaker 1: And I've see that with Layton vander Esh. His instincts
Speaker 1: out there. He's reading things, uh, you know, getting better
Speaker 1: and better all the time. But for a rookie just
Speaker 1: watching him and even to be in position to make
Speaker 1: eleven tackles in a game, you've got to be reading
Speaker 1: and reacting, especially when it's one out of three snow
Speaker 1: apps you're in, I mean, thirty three snaps and he
Speaker 1: makes eleven stops. It's pretty darn good average of course,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee had about eleven on that first time he tied,
Speaker 1: he had eleven two and he basically they bought played
Speaker 1: the same amount of snaps. I think it was the
Speaker 1: other thing. Vanderesh was out there the second series of
Speaker 1: the game. Sean was not out there the second series,
Speaker 1: and it was it was vander Esh and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: out there, and so they were. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if if it was by design just because of the
Speaker 1: hamstring that he was already dealing with the right hamstring
Speaker 1: right that they were planning on having Vanderesh out there
Speaker 1: the second series of the game, or something cropped up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, um but anyway, I um boy, there's one
Speaker 1: play if you go back and look at the coaches
Speaker 1: film with a Lee and we see it, We've seen
Speaker 1: it throughout his career. He it was a it was
Speaker 1: a play fake to the left offenses left side. He
Speaker 1: goes over there and basically was in position to make
Speaker 1: the tackle there, and then they tossed it right and
Speaker 1: he got all the way back over to the other
Speaker 1: side of the field and made the tackle over there.
Speaker 1: He basically made two He tackled two running backs or
Speaker 1: on one play. I mean it was amazing. Sean. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tackled the fake guy, fake guy, and he got
Speaker 1: over about twenty five yards over and made the other tackle.
Speaker 1: And there was a player vanderes for about one yard game.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, vander Esh can show you that too,
Speaker 1: his ability to go across the field. He did that
Speaker 1: in the game against Seattle. He did another. He just
Speaker 1: he does have all the tools. I mean, Will Disley,
Speaker 1: there's their young tight end trying to block him, just
Speaker 1: tossing him aside, shedding that block, getting a tackle behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Plus look at his frame and
Speaker 1: you can see you can just see how he's gonna
Speaker 1: fill out in an NFL weight room. Just got to
Speaker 1: make sure he stays healthy. Yeah. Absolutely, And that's kind
Speaker 1: of the other impressive thing about it, um And I
Speaker 1: asked him about it, just the fact, I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy missed two two and a half weeks a training
Speaker 1: camp at the end for a rookie not in there,
Speaker 1: and then out out there doing a lot of the offseasons. Man,
Speaker 1: did he play in a preseason game. He played in
Speaker 1: the first one, the first one, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he played in the last. He certainly didn't play in
Speaker 1: the last one. He didn't play in the last Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might have only played in the opener. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he you know, give him credit for staying ready and
Speaker 1: staying on his keys. And now, I mean he might
Speaker 1: play fifty snaps in this game. We'll just have to see.
Speaker 1: I think he's a serious football player. Ye. He's got
Speaker 1: a good mentor right next to him, and Sean Lee
Speaker 1: stays invested in it even when he is injured, and
Speaker 1: which he pointed out too, It's like Sean might not
Speaker 1: be there, but he's there with us and he's grind.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things, you know, because I
Speaker 1: was the president of the Shan Lee fan club, but
Speaker 1: before he was drafted, here were you and he was
Speaker 1: in the he was in the greenbinder. It's very highly
Speaker 1: I discovered him. I got two linebackers that year and
Speaker 1: twenty ten, about two weeks before the draft, and I
Speaker 1: discovered him. And back the way I'd do it a
Speaker 1: lot of times. It's just I try to find out
Speaker 1: as much information about the player as I can. And
Speaker 1: Penn State had a great video out there on Sean
Speaker 1: Lee when he was hurt, and it would showed him
Speaker 1: he basically was an extra coacher coach on their staff. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And so I'm reading all this stuff about it, and
Speaker 1: then I see visual evidence of how and how he
Speaker 1: cared about the team and he's he's like a coach
Speaker 1: on the field. And then his measurables measured up and
Speaker 1: then you look at it come by workout and you're
Speaker 1: going wow. I mean, this was a first round talent,
Speaker 1: but he had the injury issue and that's why he
Speaker 1: slid to the to the second round. But it was
Speaker 1: that video of him coaching up the Penn State players
Speaker 1: where I said, that's the right kind of guy right there,
Speaker 1: and this is the guy. In fact, I was in
Speaker 1: favor of taking him in. Of course, they took Dez
Speaker 1: in the first round, and I didn't think Dez would
Speaker 1: fall all the way to twenty five or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: I was in favor of taking shin Lee in the
Speaker 1: first round. I was so much on him at that time.
Speaker 1: But that is what he's all about, and so when
Speaker 1: he when he has been hurt in his career, he
Speaker 1: is invested in teaching. Whoever is backup is everything and
Speaker 1: the people he plays alongside. You know, it was interesting
Speaker 1: last night we had walk Garrison on the Cowboys Legend Show,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about Don Perkins, who of course
Speaker 1: is in the Ring of Honor, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: back then, the fullback carried the football. He was a
Speaker 1: primary running back as well, but he also had to
Speaker 1: block and everything. And Walt was talking about perk um
Speaker 1: and couldn't catch a cold called in a blizzard. That's
Speaker 1: why Walk got an opportunity to play on third downs.
Speaker 1: But his point was Perk taught him how to play
Speaker 1: fullback in the National Football League. He said he learned
Speaker 1: a lot more from Don Perkins than he did Tom
Speaker 1: Landry about playing in the in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and he said in Walt said, he asked Perk one time,
Speaker 1: he said, why are I'm your backup? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: take your job. Why are you teaching me? I said, well,
Speaker 1: because it's for the good of the team. I want
Speaker 1: to win and I want you to be as prepared
Speaker 1: as possible if I go down. Yeah, also says a
Speaker 1: lot about Don Perkins confidence in his own ability. Then no,
Speaker 1: rookie's going to come in here and take my spot.
Speaker 1: But he wants to, and so Walk. When Robert Newhouse
Speaker 1: came along in the seventies. Walk Garrison was the guy
Speaker 1: that he could because he had learned from Perkins, this
Speaker 1: is what you do. This is the Cowboys way, so
Speaker 1: to speak. Yeah, to teach your underling, you know, how
Speaker 1: to do this job, kind of pay it forward and try. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was always He's told that story so many
Speaker 1: times about like why are you doing this? I want
Speaker 1: to beat you out, you know, and yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and it's kind of interesting because he was pointing out
Speaker 1: when you come out of college in those days, he
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about blocking schemes or different you know,
Speaker 1: things that they had to do. And it's like Perk
Speaker 1: would tell them, you know, and uh, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of a great life lesson, you know. Mickey Spagnola did
Speaker 1: the same to a young Robin fill Ye about fourteen
Speaker 1: years ago. When did you first start working here? The
Speaker 1: first time around? I interned um Sells first hand with
Speaker 1: you on that little computer on topic Cowboys had. That
Speaker 1: was the next year, right, I had the kindergarten table
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, and I think that's when
Speaker 1: we start with This was a TV show, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it is again now, right, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: the television network that's right, Cowboys channel. It's off in
Speaker 1: a corner over there. That two thousand and four was yeah,
Speaker 1: I was fourteen years ago cast TV right, yeah, six
Speaker 1: four and my knees are above the table emails for
Speaker 1: you guys. We had six viewers and my mom and
Speaker 1: dad were two of them. It's about right. Everybodyed me
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving dinner when everybody in the family couldn't fit
Speaker 1: at the big table, and then there was this little
Speaker 1: side table, and you guys had me wear like a
Speaker 1: Scott Purcell, had me wear like a sport coat to
Speaker 1: kind of dress me up a little bit. But I
Speaker 1: might as well have had a box of crayons, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But things have changed. But the
Speaker 1: point is Mickey mentored Rob into the man he is
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Speaker 1: not have their own channel. I think what he because
Speaker 1: I think US Atlanta and maybe one other team had
Speaker 1: done the same thing and they told them, you know,
Speaker 1: why would you have create competition for your own channel?
Speaker 1: Because they were saying the owners owned NFL network. Because
Speaker 1: we have figured out since then on the college level
Speaker 1: that it does not work to have a one of
Speaker 1: the individual institutions have their own networks instead of the
Speaker 1: league having a network. Has it even helped the individual
Speaker 1: institution in order to no comment comment? Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: are you concerned about the injuries the defensive tackle at all?
Speaker 1: And with Dayton Jones going on injured reserve, of course,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys signed Karan Read as you pointed out, he
Speaker 1: better be ready to go because if even if Woods
Speaker 1: is limited on Antoine Woods, uh, you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: need him be good to go when you hope he's
Speaker 1: in good enough shaped at least give you twenty some snaps.
Speaker 1: And of course the Cowboys had him in the preseason
Speaker 1: late in the preseason, right, and this is a guy
Speaker 1: that a lot of people probably haven't heard of that much. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's have a drum roll. But there you come on, Ken,
Speaker 1: I need a drum roll right now, walk out of
Speaker 1: my drops machine. Oh all right, Well, Brian brought us
Speaker 1: and he could see well enough to fight this big
Speaker 1: he dilated still, yeah, because he's squinting winning right there?
Speaker 1: You are squinting? Did they dilate him? Do you need sunglasses?
Speaker 1: They're dilated folks. Oh no, it's got to be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Did you Did they give you the
Speaker 1: big sunglasses to wear when you left? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous. Where are the sunglasses? I left him
Speaker 1: in the car? Oh no, I kind of looked like
Speaker 1: hanging out with Mickey at the Old Man Rest Home.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they're they're ricky. Hang walking along Lakeshore
Speaker 1: drive together. We're going to Gibsons to have us a
Speaker 1: prime rib sandwich. Why has the show been this bad
Speaker 1: that you guys are talking about me and dilated eyes?
Speaker 1: Right now? What's going on? Talking a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: You did a good job on your program. I listened
Speaker 1: to you one, one oh five three, good stuff about
Speaker 1: Romo and stuff. You're you're struggling right now. We condemn
Speaker 1: these lights. If you know, I'm good, Let's go. Okay, Squinny,
Speaker 1: I get right now, Squinny, All right, sure, we getting
Speaker 1: up close. Let's just keep the keep the camera. Can
Speaker 1: see my eyes look dilated, folks, you should have kept
Speaker 1: the sunglasses. I can see the problems with this team.
Speaker 1: Trust me, scouts good, what's going on? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you good? Yeah? Where were we? We're talking defensive tackles
Speaker 1: and our defensive tackles with their defensive defensive tackles and
Speaker 1: the health of them, the health of them. It's a
Speaker 1: scary guys. It's not good right now. I don't think well,
Speaker 1: you lose jones and woods is limited. But Karan Reed
Speaker 1: should be healthy and and fresh and fresh legs and
Speaker 1: ready to go. And one of the reasons I bring
Speaker 1: it up. Tom Pellacero has a report that the Browns
Speaker 1: increase defensive tackle Brian Prices practice squad salary from the
Speaker 1: minimum seventy six hundred dollars to thirty seven thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a week, which is like six hundred and ninety thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year after the Cowboys and Packers tried to
Speaker 1: poach him. Her sources, Price played for both teams, of
Speaker 1: course previously, as well as the Raiders, So Browns have
Speaker 1: come a long way. Huh. Yeah, Brown's holding players. They're
Speaker 1: keeping guys in their practice squad rather than an active
Speaker 1: roster somewhere else. Somebody brought that up. Why didn't the
Speaker 1: guy Cowboys go after Price? And it's like they did? Yeh.
Speaker 1: Price wasn't right. Yeah for him, it was. He got
Speaker 1: some and he was just let go by the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Last week. He was signed to Cleveland's practice squad, So
Speaker 1: the opportunity was there last week, but the Cowboys didn't
Speaker 1: have as much of a need until Daytone Jones got
Speaker 1: hurt on Sunday. Cleveland keeps getting in the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, some people may say, Okay, Darius Jackson, they
Speaker 1: coach Yeah last year, Yeah, some might say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: why even though they increased his pay, and the increased
Speaker 1: it a lot. I mean that six hundred ninety thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: it's like a veteran minimum, the veteran minimum down and
Speaker 1: so but people may say, okay, yeah, but he's still
Speaker 1: on their practice squad. Why would he not take the
Speaker 1: opportunity to be on the active roster for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or the Packers. And this is a guy who's now
Speaker 1: bounced around from the Packers. He was a waiver claimed
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys. Cowboys are lazing. He goes to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: now Brown's practice squad and even not from Okay, they've
Speaker 1: they've not only matched what he would make for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the active roster, they've exceeded it to some extent.
Speaker 1: And for him, you know, since he's been a nomad,
Speaker 1: you know, bouncing around the league, and he feel like
Speaker 1: that they are investing in him. It from his perspective,
Speaker 1: and a lot of players might have the same thinking that, Okay,
Speaker 1: they are committed to me. If I go to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I've got to be on their active roster for four weeks,
Speaker 1: three weeks, three weeks, but then three weeks from now,
Speaker 1: I may be out on the street a game, especially
Speaker 1: when they've got well, I don't know if they would
Speaker 1: get rid of him. But you know, okay, if I
Speaker 1: could circle back all the things you're saying, Bill, why
Speaker 1: would he not take the accrude season? You know, why
Speaker 1: would you not take the opportunity of the party if
Speaker 1: you're thinking about free agency in the future and benefits
Speaker 1: to me, I would go weeks? Do you have to
Speaker 1: be he gets six to be a crude season? So,
Speaker 1: like you said, he's not guaranteed even if he's signed
Speaker 1: to an active roster to get in a crude season here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have a chance to have a shot at it.
Speaker 1: But on the practice. But he probably already acquired three
Speaker 1: weeks because he was let go. Well maybe they were
Speaker 1: at least two weeks. Maybe his agent was worried that
Speaker 1: when David Irving became eligible next week. Part of the
Speaker 1: part of the guarantee from the Browns is probably that
Speaker 1: by a certain point of the season, we are going
Speaker 1: to put you on the active roster or he's going
Speaker 1: to figure out that he needs to go get that
Speaker 1: accrude season somewhere else. Right, you know, if they at
Speaker 1: a certain point whatever that whatever cut off a weeks
Speaker 1: that he needs then Yeah, so that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to me. I mean, I just couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: giving up a year just so you could beat now
Speaker 1: the travel and all that. I get that, and then
Speaker 1: good for John Dorsey to hold the player there. I
Speaker 1: really liked Karan Reid. I don't know if you how
Speaker 1: you guys got into some conversations. I thought the last
Speaker 1: couple of games that he played, he was pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially in that Houston game. I know Brad
Speaker 1: Sham and I called his name quite a bit, and
Speaker 1: he's going to have to play that one technique because
Speaker 1: that's that seems to be where they're having the bit
Speaker 1: of the struggle right now. Even the guy Christian Ringo
Speaker 1: is who they signed yesterday. I heard some whispers that
Speaker 1: Christian Christian Ringo got some work with the Seconds yesterday.
Speaker 1: So that just shows you that they're kind of in
Speaker 1: a little bit of a dire straits as far as
Speaker 1: the depth in there at that one technique. Well, Collins
Speaker 1: is not playing, Yeah, Collins is, Yeah, Collins is Collins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Collins doesn't miss games, but he did he missed a
Speaker 1: game last week. And you know they're trying to get
Speaker 1: him healthy, get him back. But you know, David Irving
Speaker 1: returns next week. But what is David Irving? He's your
Speaker 1: three right, right, So you know they they've got it.
Speaker 1: They've got some issues that they're having to deal with
Speaker 1: right now. As far as you know, they have to
Speaker 1: figure out. I don't trying to figure out here. Who
Speaker 1: might you know you have to let somebody go for Irving?
Speaker 1: Do you do it? Defense is Daniel Ross? You know? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We got seventeen receivers, which now we
Speaker 1: can figure that asked, no questions, No, I'm I'm making
Speaker 1: a joke about that. That's but but you're right, Mackey,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're thinking, you know, you're thinking defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna get one back next week.
Speaker 1: But it just doesn't help you at the one technique
Speaker 1: right now because you don't. It's really it's if MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins was healthy, you know, then maybe you could kind
Speaker 1: of get by and stuff with Reid. Reid's a veteran player.
Speaker 1: I think he'll do just fine. That was all I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I think when he walked in people
Speaker 1: don't know much about him, but he has started games
Speaker 1: in this league. He has, so he's a guy I
Speaker 1: think you could plug in. And the thing about the
Speaker 1: Houston game, Jason Garrett never says specifically this player stood
Speaker 1: out in the game. To me, he never does that,
Speaker 1: like to compare players, and he doesn't usually give praise
Speaker 1: to players. But he did that. Should say the praise
Speaker 1: of with the the preseason game. Did that after he game? Well,
Speaker 1: he was super active in that game. Yea. And I
Speaker 1: mean if you can get you know, you know, last
Speaker 1: week was really the opportunity I felt like to kind
Speaker 1: of take advantage of some inside players. This week will
Speaker 1: be a little bit different challenge because you know, I
Speaker 1: wrote about this for Day Today for dallascatways dot com.
Speaker 1: The matchups. Keep an eye on Crawford playing the three
Speaker 1: or the undertackle playing against Frank Ragnoll, who is the
Speaker 1: rookie from Arkansas. Bill. I don't know. You might have
Speaker 1: seen him play in some games in college and stuff,
Speaker 1: a center by trade playing guard, but he's one of
Speaker 1: those belly to belly blockers I like to talk about
Speaker 1: that gets real close. Crawford's quickness will give this guy
Speaker 1: some problems. So if they can attack, if you want
Speaker 1: a little bit of an area, you know, and now
Speaker 1: you have a little defensive line concern, but if you
Speaker 1: want some positivity, Crawford inside against Frank Ragnow I think
Speaker 1: would be one of those things to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on because if he could be disruptive, you gotta do
Speaker 1: something about this. This Lions. And it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to say it's their running game with with with carry
Speaker 1: On Johnson now run their ability that looks like for
Speaker 1: one week they kind of said, Okay, we need to
Speaker 1: run the ball, we need to be better at it.
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna need some guys to get up
Speaker 1: the field and be a little bit disruptive. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's where you're doing right, you know her first round pick. Correct,
Speaker 1: he was, and he was credited up there with a
Speaker 1: couple key blocks that sprung carry On Johnson runs And
Speaker 1: maybe it was because they're playing Tom Brady and said, look,
Speaker 1: we gotta keep him off the field. But all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, yeah, they've they've found something with the running game,
Speaker 1: which they have not had a running game in years
Speaker 1: up there, and well this kid maybe the answer rushing
Speaker 1: game in five years. Yeah, exactly the right Cowboys have
Speaker 1: had thirty three. Yeah, and there there's the there's the
Speaker 1: flip side of this. I'm all for Seattle game plan
Speaker 1: this week, being Seattle what they did to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If it until Detroit proves to me that they can
Speaker 1: stop the run, I'm gonna run this football. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and i'm gonna I'm gonna make this if you know,
Speaker 1: it's a noon game, if it's over at one oh five,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, you know, you know, uh Jason
Speaker 1: Jason pointed out yesterday about Karan Reid that he can
Speaker 1: play either spot. He's not just a one that he
Speaker 1: could play them three. So they need him as a one,
Speaker 1: but if you need somebody else to help Crawford at three.
Speaker 1: Although in the game against Seattle, we did see them
Speaker 1: in some instances moving de Marcus Lawrence inside. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: in in pass rush situations, so gave up a huge
Speaker 1: play that nineteen side. Yeah, they flipped. They flipped because
Speaker 1: we were trying. We we kind of pointed out last
Speaker 1: week that Seattle inside was not gonna be good. So
Speaker 1: what they tried to do was create some matchups inside,
Speaker 1: and I think it got him it bit him on
Speaker 1: that play that went to c J. Prosis that went
Speaker 1: to the outside. We couldn't really fear out. Okay, is
Speaker 1: that Taco drop in? Is that linebacker? But the linebacker
Speaker 1: was blitzing through the a gap that was Taco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I supposed to peel off. There we go, Mickey. Mickey
Speaker 1: lives here, he knows. All right, Let's go to Michael
Speaker 1: in New York. You're up on talking Cowboys, Mike. I
Speaker 1: elation sucks. Michael. Hi, everyone, how are you goood? Thanks? Yeah? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: All right? So, um, you know, we hear a lot,
Speaker 1: we talk a lot. I know you guys probably get
Speaker 1: sick of hearing about where health, complaints about the coaching,
Speaker 1: the play calling, etc. But that, in my opinion, will
Speaker 1: sort itself out at the end of the season based
Speaker 1: on the results of these last thirteen games. Ye, so
Speaker 1: I agree. Instead of right, so instead of you know,
Speaker 1: wasting breath about that one thing is a fan that
Speaker 1: concerns me. You know, I was around, you know during
Speaker 1: the days when maybe I wish that Stephen would have
Speaker 1: taken the reins from Jerry Sure and showing a little
Speaker 1: bit more restraint when it came to spending and things
Speaker 1: like that, and now I think we've kind of gone
Speaker 1: too far the other way, and I would just like
Speaker 1: us to have been more aggressive over this last year
Speaker 1: or two at times to help surround this quarterback with
Speaker 1: the weapons that he needs so that you can really
Speaker 1: get a good evaluation of the player going forward. And
Speaker 1: last year there were enough problems around him, with the
Speaker 1: bad situation on the offensive line in the Atlanta game,
Speaker 1: the Burning of Atlanta as Jerry called it, the decline
Speaker 1: of receivers like Dez and so forth. There were some
Speaker 1: external reasons that you could use to attribute to Dak's
Speaker 1: decline in the second half of the year. But now
Speaker 1: we're in a point where we've lost some of those reasons,
Speaker 1: and you know, Dez was shipped away and went and
Speaker 1: retired and so forth, and now we're in a situation
Speaker 1: where I think that we have probably one of the
Speaker 1: worst groups in terms of wide receiver and tight end
Speaker 1: to support the quarterback in the league. And now we're
Speaker 1: in a position where they're kind of getting close to
Speaker 1: the point where they have to make a decision on
Speaker 1: what to do with the quarterback going forward. And while
Speaker 1: I very much have my doubts about the quarterback and
Speaker 1: his unwillingness to throw the ball down the field. I
Speaker 1: greatly wonder if we shot ourselves in the foot with
Speaker 1: making a clean evaluation of him in that respect, in
Speaker 1: terms of surrounding them with weapons. So I just wanted
Speaker 1: to know what you all thought of. Hey, I can
Speaker 1: I ask you a question, sir? Yes, sir, you know
Speaker 1: they were thinking about that Sammy Watkins thing. They were
Speaker 1: trying to spend money there. Is that the right thing
Speaker 1: to do? Or is that you know the wrong thing?
Speaker 1: And I'll ask you another question too, about what's your
Speaker 1: theory about them signing their own? Does that not constitute
Speaker 1: trying to do stuff in free agency when you're signing
Speaker 1: your own. Yeah. As far as Whykins, I almost threw
Speaker 1: up in my mouth when I heard that they wanted Waltkins,
Speaker 1: and probably near the rate. I don't think they were
Speaker 1: far off from what he got with Kansas City, from
Speaker 1: what I was able to gather. Sure, So, yeah, believe
Speaker 1: me when I say I'd like them to be You're
Speaker 1: in New York, right, I don't. I don't want them,
Speaker 1: you know, to be like a drunken sailor and throw
Speaker 1: their money all over the place. Sure, as far as
Speaker 1: the other part of your question there, I very much believe,
Speaker 1: like I you know, to my friends and so forth,
Speaker 1: and to my son who was very much a fan. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I always consider when they extend to Zach Martin, extended,
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick, etc. To me, that is like buying yourself
Speaker 1: a premium player. That counts very much, very much believe
Speaker 1: that could be Lawrence next year. I mean, that's kind
Speaker 1: of where this thing's going, right, That's right. And what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is when you only get so many
Speaker 1: draft picks, right, so, and especially premium picks, anything past
Speaker 1: the third round, maybe the fourth round is kind of
Speaker 1: a lottery ticket. So to me, we've become too reliant
Speaker 1: on being perfect there in the draft. Okay, okay, which
Speaker 1: no matter what you do as a crapshoot to some extent,
Speaker 1: and I love the draft, but to me, when we
Speaker 1: rely on you know, will to hit it out of
Speaker 1: the park there every time, and then to also find
Speaker 1: us a gem as a street free agent, like an
Speaker 1: Antwoine Woods type. And I give a lot of credit
Speaker 1: to them for some of their fines, but it just
Speaker 1: hasn't been enough. And so really that's just my concern,
Speaker 1: now you're the bottom line is real quick, and thank
Speaker 1: you for the call. It's an excellent call, well thought out.
Speaker 1: His concern is the evaluation of the quarterback, and I
Speaker 1: think he's on that point, because how do you do
Speaker 1: it if you're sitting there going well, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about these tight ends. I'm not sure about the wide receiver. Boy, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you're right. They put a lot on this quarterback that
Speaker 1: they can go with no bell our wide receiver and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll play with the group. And he's right about the
Speaker 1: tight ends. I feel I feel sorry I said this yesterday.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for Jeff Swain because Jeff Swain is
Speaker 1: having to play James Hannah's role, right and he's not
Speaker 1: equipped to play James James Hannah's role, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's and that's the problem with this right now. And
Speaker 1: he's absolutely right there, you know, I will say this,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate him going with the approach of let's
Speaker 1: evaluate at the end of the year, let's evaluate the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, let's evaluate the players. I just have a
Speaker 1: feeling that this evaluation of the coaching staff will be
Speaker 1: tied into with the quarterback. I think I think from
Speaker 1: a front office perspective, this might work out okay for
Speaker 1: Dak either way, whether it goes new coach comes in
Speaker 1: and says, Okay, this is what I can do with him. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I have a new coach comes in. From
Speaker 1: a front office perspective, I think if if this continues
Speaker 1: on where they struggle offensively, I could see the front
Speaker 1: office saying, well, we need to surround him with better talent.
Speaker 1: If we do that, I think, well, he'll be a
Speaker 1: better quarterback. I don't know what the future holds for
Speaker 1: him for from a contract standpoint, where year after this, right,
Speaker 1: but if he's able to turn this around, have a
Speaker 1: good season with a cast that, yes is largely unproven
Speaker 1: and new that he gets a lot of credit for
Speaker 1: that too. Absolutely so I think either way there he
Speaker 1: earns his money there. Maybe it's possible, um, but he
Speaker 1: made he made some valid points. I think it just
Speaker 1: goes back to the front office felt like we spend
Speaker 1: a second round pick on a top tier guard prospect
Speaker 1: and they weren't counting on Travis Frederick to be in
Speaker 1: the condition he's in right now. If you have that
Speaker 1: badass pick on Gallup, yeah, well who the draft show
Speaker 1: absolutely loved that too. Yeah, but I think they were
Speaker 1: counting on again the running game, this dominant offensive line,
Speaker 1: and they can fit some pieces around that with Zeke
Speaker 1: and and right now, I mean, I think not having
Speaker 1: Travis and some some transition on the line, it's not
Speaker 1: the offense maybe that we expected so far. Can ask
Speaker 1: the question, if, given Travis Frederick's health or a number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver or I shouldn't say, hell, Travis Frederick's
Speaker 1: availability or a number one wide receiver, if you had
Speaker 1: to take one right now to help, which one you
Speaker 1: go with? I want a healthy Travis. I want that
Speaker 1: line stable the way because we've seen what they can
Speaker 1: do when they're at full strength. We've seen it, and
Speaker 1: it's just full strength, right yeah, and it just hasn't
Speaker 1: been saying so. And then with regards to the number
Speaker 1: one right receiver. Yeah, so what I said yesterday about
Speaker 1: kind of squeezing down rotation. So I'm looking out the
Speaker 1: list and Beasley's got twelve catches, yeah, all right, and
Speaker 1: then Deonte Thompson has nine, yeah, and I'm not counting
Speaker 1: a Zeke and I'm not counting Austin Swain, Okay, and
Speaker 1: then it's five for Tavon Austin, Yeah, three for Gallup, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two for Terrence Williams and Hearns has four. So you
Speaker 1: can say you spread it out, but you've spread it
Speaker 1: out where there's been no productivity. Yeah. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking targets because no, I know that, I'm not. We
Speaker 1: don't have that here. But just catches. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop one catch each game, Now, you should have
Speaker 1: had two, right, We can can argue about that, but still,
Speaker 1: what about three or four? Michael? Give him those opportunities
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup for four for fifty eight yards every game
Speaker 1: would have been really nice right now, right or something
Speaker 1: like that. I mean maybe, well maybe you know that
Speaker 1: opportunity had coming across the field in Carolina would have
Speaker 1: kind of got him going. So let me let me ask. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got two for the offensive line. Are you saying
Speaker 1: Mickey wide receiver would help more? No, I'm still stuck
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, but we don't know if somebody
Speaker 1: here can be I'm I'll go the other. I'll take
Speaker 1: your receiver, you'll take the receipt. I'll take the receiver
Speaker 1: because I think Joe Looney has been good enough. But
Speaker 1: I need somebody. That's why I'm asking for Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: or Cole Beasley. Somebody. Just get the ball on somebody's
Speaker 1: hands that can make plays. Give me a little juice.
Speaker 1: But I don't you, guys. I think my point is
Speaker 1: maybe that guy's there but hasn't had the opportunity. You
Speaker 1: guys are right about the line. Though, you're right about
Speaker 1: the line. And and but I would, I would. I
Speaker 1: would sacrifice having Travis Frederick right now if I knew
Speaker 1: I had somebody on the outside that can get me
Speaker 1: eight for eighty nine. So you're just touched down. So
Speaker 1: what you're saying is okay, Frederick, Fine, we can withstand that.
Speaker 1: If we had Sammy Watkins on the other well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's Sammy, was just saying as a name,
Speaker 1: if it's somebody somebody Michael brought up, you know, and
Speaker 1: I asked him to Sammy Watkins question. Because they tried
Speaker 1: to spend money on a wide receiver to get him.
Speaker 1: They tried to get him a weapon. They tried to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on a guy. Yeah they tried,
Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't. It didn't work. Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 1: So I do appreciate your guy's answer because I don't
Speaker 1: think it's wrong. But man, if you just give me
Speaker 1: somebody that can help this quarterback a little bit. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that these other guys haven't tried to
Speaker 1: help that. Maybe that's what they are. Maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I hope that Michael Gallup is better than one catch
Speaker 1: a game. I hope that that's my that's my. You know,
Speaker 1: Thompson has been a nice surprise. Get Austin involved. You know,
Speaker 1: Hearns is the one that I kind of thought, Remember
Speaker 1: we were all discussing Hearns. It was if we had
Speaker 1: if he had the same number as death sixty eight
Speaker 1: for how are many yards and how many you know,
Speaker 1: we would be touched down. Yeah, we'd be happy, we'd
Speaker 1: be lated. We can't even get that right now, right,
Speaker 1: so I'm sorry. I look at dilated eyes coming well
Speaker 1: take over your show. I um, you know you're talking
Speaker 1: about targets and how many receptions whatever. Look at how
Speaker 1: many snaps to the snap percentage? You look at the
Speaker 1: Lions and Marvin Jones is on the field ninety four
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, right, Kenny Golladay nine one percent
Speaker 1: and Golden Tate eight percent. To look at plays right
Speaker 1: into Mickey's Ye, that plays right. I'm switching over to
Speaker 1: the cowboys now and snap counts just a second. No, no,
Speaker 1: you guys are I got it right here. You guys
Speaker 1: are right wrong about this here not wrong. Colebe Easley
Speaker 1: sixty five percent has the most percentage, okay, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen snaps eleven perconnel right, Alan Hearns fifty nine percent.
Speaker 1: Play some slot too, okay, Deonte Thompson forty five percent,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop forty five percent, Terrence Williams twenty two percent,
Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin twenty seven percent. So Babon Austin percentage
Speaker 1: needs to go up. It just it needs to go.
Speaker 1: So what we hand the ball to Zeke and get
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin involved. What we have here is socialized white
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right about that. There you go, everybody
Speaker 1: social a little bit. Becky has pinpointed it. It's socialist,
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Speaker 1: for taking my call. Uh, first time, long time. I'm
Speaker 1: flying out to the game Sunday morning. Um, so that'd
Speaker 1: be great. And uh I'm my predictions Cowboys by eight.
Speaker 1: Um yeah. Thanks. One thing I found interesting yesterday listened
Speaker 1: to listening to Zeke um well, and when he was
Speaker 1: asked about two thousand and sixteen, because that seems to
Speaker 1: come up a lot, is yes, he said, he says,
Speaker 1: he said they're running a different scheme. Um, then in
Speaker 1: keep two thousand and sixteen, and so I was wondering
Speaker 1: if that change was last season. I haven't heard you
Speaker 1: guys talk about it. He was referring to Detroit's defense.
Speaker 1: The question was, can you take anything from last time
Speaker 1: you played Detroit? And he pointed out that they have
Speaker 1: a different defensive coordinator. He wasn't talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Paul Pasqualoni. Oh sure, I think he mentioned it twice,
Speaker 1: but I'll go back and look. But I just found
Speaker 1: that that pretty interesting. Yeah, he was talking about Detroit
Speaker 1: at that point, and he said, there's no sense going
Speaker 1: back to twenty sixteen, and he pointed out that we
Speaker 1: have changed, we have new personnel, we're not the same team,
Speaker 1: and Detroit has a different defensive coordinator. Thank god, Mickey listens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, you're a better listener than me, because
Speaker 1: I think as the Cowboys are running a different scheme,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, and actually that was and answered
Speaker 1: to Rob's question the other day when I said I
Speaker 1: listened to not only talk radio, but I've been listening
Speaker 1: to things on the app on my in the car,
Speaker 1: and that I listened to Zeke again this morning. There
Speaker 1: you get the way. Nice. What do you think that
Speaker 1: he paid off? Thank you? Very much. Bran, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Zeke's interview yesterday with the media.
Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty good. I thought he was too.
Speaker 1: He's been crazy all year, insightful. Yes, I still enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Last night we ran a sound bite from him on
Speaker 1: Channel eleven. I came out of it. I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I've heard Zeke talk with that kind
Speaker 1: of passion before, and he was more forthcoming. He wasn't guarded.
Speaker 1: It wasn't and it made me think, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: everything was so guarded. It was tough for him right year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he really wanted to talk about that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I mean even when he wasn't talking, asked about
Speaker 1: that stuff, even talking football stuff, he was very It
Speaker 1: was closer to his rookie year, but a little bit
Speaker 1: more informative than because his rookie year. I think he
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was so distrusting of the media.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened at it. I think Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans should like what they heard from him yesterday because
Speaker 1: I thought so too pissed off, and he also sounded
Speaker 1: like we gotta do something about and he also kind
Speaker 1: of made a joke in the middle of the whole
Speaker 1: thing too, which you know he's usually just kind of
Speaker 1: flat lines. You know. I thought he was good. It
Speaker 1: was good and he and he answered the questions the
Speaker 1: way he should have. It's like, well, yeah, you should
Speaker 1: you carry the ball more? Well, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: let's look at what happened. He goes, we we were
Speaker 1: down seventeen points. We can't be wasting time with a
Speaker 1: We gotta play better early in the game and take
Speaker 1: a lead in the game, and then we can give
Speaker 1: me the ball in the second half, kind of like
Speaker 1: what Seattle did the other day and brought us that
Speaker 1: game plan. And he put himself as part of that too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he made some key mistakes that cost them points,
Speaker 1: and um, it was almost like he was school in
Speaker 1: the media, like hey, this is what you should know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to be easy to figure out,
Speaker 1: really right, Yeah yeah yeah, well you know what voice
Speaker 1: that can't people figure this out? I taught Archer vsp
Speaker 1: and Dallas did a great Gi tweeted out he's getting
Speaker 1: Zeke is getting the same percentage of time watches per
Speaker 1: game as he's gotten throughout his career. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of the situation and the number of plays they're getting.
Speaker 1: They're getting they're getting about I think the two losses
Speaker 1: they've had forty four plays and fifty plays on offense.
Speaker 1: That is just not a lot, no, not enough, not enough.
Speaker 1: So you know, and where he's gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: bill I think you said this, where he's gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of his carries in wins have been just salting
Speaker 1: away games in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's where's Chris
Speaker 1: Carson did the other day with like fifteen carries after
Speaker 1: the three minute mark of the third quarter. About this,
Speaker 1: fifty seven plays, fifty plays in fifty eight. They haven't
Speaker 1: had a sixty play game yet. They used to just
Speaker 1: used to maul you with that. Well, Dak Prescott has
Speaker 1: I've got the snap counts in front of me. He
Speaker 1: has one hundred and seventy six snaps. So divide that
Speaker 1: by three. That's less than sixties snaps a game for
Speaker 1: the offense. And then and the defense has played sixty one,
Speaker 1: sixty seven and sixty six. And let's see, like Cheeto
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones, who have the snaps two hundred two
Speaker 1: snaps for each of them. You know, it's going to
Speaker 1: sound crazy. As much as we want offense to do
Speaker 1: what they need to do, this game might come down
Speaker 1: to the defense in a way of and I mean
Speaker 1: I think offense will find a way to get some
Speaker 1: some traction. Can the defense hold up with those three
Speaker 1: wide receivers you're talking about? And then Matthew Stafford throwing
Speaker 1: the quarterback which we talked about early in the week
Speaker 1: when I said, is this the best offense they've played
Speaker 1: or at least the best quarterback? This absolutely, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a last quarterback with the best weapons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of bunch and chase.
Speaker 1: You know, get ready. I mean this, they they they will,
Speaker 1: they will find a way to get receivers all grouped up.
Speaker 1: And then and Tony Roman. We've been talked about this
Speaker 1: with Ben in Skin the other day. Is that, you know,
Speaker 1: to make up for some of your deficiencies, how do
Speaker 1: you get people open and routes. You could have the
Speaker 1: same concepts, the same schemes, but you bunch them up.
Speaker 1: You've scattered them, you know, but you run the same
Speaker 1: routes out of that. We we all rob's not all
Speaker 1: enough for this? Maybe is Joe Gibbs ran you know,
Speaker 1: the counter tray. He ran the counter tray over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. But he did it out of
Speaker 1: different formations. So you know, that's you get good at something,
Speaker 1: but you run it out of different formations. And this
Speaker 1: is really what the Lions will do. And just especially
Speaker 1: now that they've got a little bit of a running
Speaker 1: game with Carrie on Johnson, I think Dallas has to
Speaker 1: be worried about that. But how well can the secondary play.
Speaker 1: They can't afford safety busts, you know, they can't afford
Speaker 1: depth problems. They can't afford letting guys run across the
Speaker 1: field because then this guy starts scoring points. Now you're
Speaker 1: really in trouble, you know. I mean, you know, Dallas
Speaker 1: is going to probably play in a lot of tough,
Speaker 1: tight games, but you can't let them get up a
Speaker 1: lead like Seattle did. That's just it's just it's hard
Speaker 1: on this offense to do. Even though I think that
Speaker 1: they're going to have some success, because I don't think
Speaker 1: Detroit really can play the run all that well. I
Speaker 1: really don't. So one thing that New England had going
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, and they just but they couldn't, you know.
Speaker 1: But Detroit got a little bit of a lead, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Brady started missing pass right. So
Speaker 1: I think that's just going to be I think the
Speaker 1: Dallas secondary is going to have a big, big hand
Speaker 1: in this one this week just because of what you know.
Speaker 1: They don't really have a tight end. Detroit didn't have
Speaker 1: a tight end. You have to do it, but they
Speaker 1: got three receivers you gotta deal with. So they wrote
Speaker 1: about a guy Yesterday, Gall Day, who's a big target
Speaker 1: into its own absolutely so Nickel defense the whole game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get ready, get ready. A lot of a lot of chase,
Speaker 1: a lot of chasing going on. It's like hitting the
Speaker 1: ant pile. Yeah, and then everybody kick kick can't pile
Speaker 1: and watch the ants go there you go. There's no
Speaker 1: holiday when you go up against Kenny Day. Galday Talking
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