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<v Speaker 1>Loud and Quiet presents Midnight Chats.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, good evening. It's me again Stuart Stubbs, the

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<v Speaker 2>man with the beautiful monotone voice, for another introduction to

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<v Speaker 2>the Loud and Quiet podcast. Thank you for downloading episode

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<v Speaker 2>forty six of Midnight Chat. My guests tonight are bona

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<v Speaker 2>fide friends of Loud and Quiet. Old Jay have become

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest bands in the UK and they

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<v Speaker 2>do pretty well overseas as well, particularly America, where they

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<v Speaker 2>are bigger than they are back home. Even they play

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<v Speaker 2>huge shows wherever they go and currently are in the

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<v Speaker 2>States where they will close out one of the stages

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<v Speaker 2>at Coachella this year. Over the next two weekends, we

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<v Speaker 2>go back a little bit. Old Jay have experienced a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot of success that has absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with their very first single that we released

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<v Speaker 2>here at Loud and Quiet. It genuinely has nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with us, of course, but I do like to

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<v Speaker 2>remind people that we were responsible for releasing their first

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<v Speaker 2>single Whenever Jay are mentioned. That was back in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and since then they've released three albums, including last year's Relaxer,

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<v Speaker 2>which we speak a little bit about in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom couldn't join us for this, so it's just myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Gus and Joe, and we managed to tick off a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot of nonsense within the next forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes or so, including famous people they've met, the

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<v Speaker 2>shows that they play these days, and virtual reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Naturally, we pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>The conversation though with me asking Gus about his appearance

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<v Speaker 2>on Christmas University Challenge. For people listening outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>UK to this, University Challenge is basically an extremely intellectual

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<v Speaker 2>quiz show where universities kind of flex their brains and

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<v Speaker 2>nerd out on BBC two under the watchful eye of

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<v Speaker 2>a complete madman called Jeremy Paxman. I'm pretty sure that's

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<v Speaker 2>all you need to know. If you do like what

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<v Speaker 2>you hear in this podcast, please do check back and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to some of the previous ones. If this is

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<v Speaker 2>your first time here, there are forty five for you

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy. Maybe don't start at the very beginning because

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<v Speaker 2>we really didn't know what we were doing back then,

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<v Speaker 2>and please do subscribe for all future episodes. For now, though,

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<v Speaker 2>presuming you haven't fallen asleep, I will leave you with

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<v Speaker 2>Gus Aunger Hamilton and Joe Newman on episode forty six

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<v Speaker 2>of Midnight Chats. I had a TV question for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mainly for Gus, but Joe chime in on this

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<v Speaker 2>because I also want your opinion on it. Last Christmas Hscan,

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching University Challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Was was this a repeat of it would have been

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<v Speaker 4>a repeat it was? It was on Christmas twenty sixteen?

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<v Speaker 3>So you were you were on it? It was on

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I got the final leads the team I was on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this final was the one I saw great, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quit myself did pretty badly. I was Nicholas, what was

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<v Speaker 2>the So this is the the I mean, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>call it celebrity University Challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas University Change. It's alumni.

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<v Speaker 4>They call it like distinct wished alumni, because I think

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<v Speaker 4>that sometimes they get I mean, I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, I'm not a celebrity, but I suppose I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in a band. But like they had on, I think

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<v Speaker 4>somebody dropped out of one of the teams, and so

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<v Speaker 4>they just got somebody who was like now an academic

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<v Speaker 4>and I can say, oh, you know, this person is

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<v Speaker 4>an expert in you know magnate magnet, magnet magnets, magnets,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and so I mean that they're not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can They're still distinguished, They're just not like famous.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, firstly, Joe, why why weren't you on this team?

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<v Speaker 6>I well, initially I was asked, I was asked you,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I.

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<v Speaker 6>Essentially I was I was just like, I am not

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<v Speaker 6>the quiz master in the band. I think Gus is

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<v Speaker 6>master of quizzes. And I offered, I offered the job

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<v Speaker 6>to Gus.

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<v Speaker 5>You passed it over, you know, like like a question

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<v Speaker 5>did to the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you instantly to be Yeah, I'm taking completely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I was like I was, I was hurt,

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<v Speaker 4>an upset, and you know, not not with Joe. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like I was gutted that they asked Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>not like and I was like, it looks there's any

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<v Speaker 4>chance they want, you know, somebody who's not the lead singer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd kill for this because I really, like, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I really grew up watching it. I love quizzies, I

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<v Speaker 4>love general knowledge, and it's just you know, it was

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<v Speaker 4>a dream and actually I never I didn't when I

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<v Speaker 4>was at university. I didn't ever see any I never

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<v Speaker 4>heard of, like, you know, apply for the lead team

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. So I sort of missed missed the boat.

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<v Speaker 4>So luckily they were like, yeah, great, well love Gus.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they were like Gussard, we wanted, we wanted Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>But I thing is, Gus is media trained, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think just because you know, you've had a good upbringing

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<v Speaker 6>and you know you're you know how to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>work the crowd and stuff, I think you have that

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<v Speaker 6>gift and I think he should be part of a

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<v Speaker 6>number of the sort of media productions.

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<v Speaker 3>I did get.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I got, I got off.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I got of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mastermind, Well I think.

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<v Speaker 3>As a result of it, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think mastermind, celebrity master chef. Who do you think you are?

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe the Bacoff.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, there's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Four that I think Gus would do really really well,

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<v Speaker 6>excelling because you've got a really interesting family history. He's

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<v Speaker 6>a very good cook, he's good at the general knowledge.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think these are most I think most of

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<v Speaker 6>these are deep sea based.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you've got I won't do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>won't do commercials. Bake Offf's now gone over, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>What Gus, What would Joe be good at him?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Joe would be good on you know, on

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<v Speaker 3>count You know that thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like on countdown when somebody sits next to the person

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<v Speaker 4>with the dictionary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that because you're very good at helping and like an,

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<v Speaker 3>we're very sort of guy, Doug.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you wouldn't want to be the person with

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<v Speaker 4>the dictionary because you're not that into dictionaries and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that you'd be you'd be charming at

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<v Speaker 4>the elbow of Susan. Susie, I feel like I've damned

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<v Speaker 4>you with fame praise there. But you can be gone

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<v Speaker 4>on spring Watch as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You like how I was play an animal? Yeah? What

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<v Speaker 3>about Pointless? Then the two if you could go?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, team counter and my friend went on Pointless and

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<v Speaker 4>didn't didn't do well.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, one of our writers and a friend went

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<v Speaker 2>on points he got to the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>It's blooming hard the final, Yeah it is. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>had a I was watching it the other day. This

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<v Speaker 4>is what you do when you're not on tour, you

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<v Speaker 4>watch TV. And then there was it was like films.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like actors in I think it was Coen

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<v Speaker 4>Brothers films or something, and they basically picked like films

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<v Speaker 4>or something, and this mother and daughter just had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea about any of these films and so they just

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<v Speaker 4>had They were just like guess actors in these films.

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<v Speaker 4>They just they were just making up. They were just

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<v Speaker 4>guessing actors, like who do we like Helen Mirren? She's

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<v Speaker 4>always good And it was just it was very funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not telling her very well.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was Paxman like then on University Challenge? Was

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<v Speaker 2>he a nice because I like PACs Men?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was nice.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't he kind of like comes in and gets

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<v Speaker 4>down to business pretty quickly into the studio, doesn't sort

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<v Speaker 4>of go around go to the pub afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, afterwards he did.

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<v Speaker 4>We had like a little kind of cheese and wine

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<v Speaker 4>in the green room and came up and pressed the flesh,

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<v Speaker 4>And there was one he made some joke about me,

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<v Speaker 4>how I've been saying the right answer for ages while

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<v Speaker 4>my team was deliberating, and I was going.

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<v Speaker 3>Thin legs, thin legs, legs, and they were going, I

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<v Speaker 3>got you didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Watched the first episodes on Fire.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like about University Challenge and Pacsmen because Paxton

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously such a force and a notorious bastard on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Is when someone.

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<v Speaker 2>When he likes you can really tell when he likes

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<v Speaker 2>a team or he likes a person on a team,

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<v Speaker 2>and they always, you know, I always feel quite pleased

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<v Speaker 2>for them that they've broken the hard shell. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and become friends. Did you feel you ever? I think

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<v Speaker 2>that we were. I think that we were fan favorites

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<v Speaker 2>as a team.

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<v Speaker 4>I think because we really like we really bonded as

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<v Speaker 4>team with quite a lot of kind of joking around.

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<v Speaker 3>And you watched it, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think we were a good team, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that some of the other teams were not

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<v Speaker 4>good teams. I think pa Packsman sensed that we'd we gelled,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he appreciated that, because obviously it has

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<v Speaker 4>for the format to work, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>seem a bit like you're a team, not even just

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<v Speaker 4>arrived in separate Addie Lee's and just met five minutes

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<v Speaker 4>before going on into the studio, which I think was

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<v Speaker 4>the case with so as I.

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<v Speaker 3>May say, so, do you keep in touch with the team.

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<v Speaker 4>I got an email from Kamal Ahmed a few days actually,

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<v Speaker 4>and I need to email him back. I just I

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<v Speaker 4>was on the bus and I just had to get

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<v Speaker 4>it was my stop. So it's in my draft. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're listening, I'm I'm sure you are right.

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely is. He's a big fan of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when he's not doing economics, he's very into indie music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, other TV in the world of Old j

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<v Speaker 2>The Brits. You guys go quite a bit to the

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<v Speaker 2>Brits these days.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't go this year? Did you not go? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no. We didn't get any nominations this year.

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<v Speaker 2>This is awkward now because I thought you did.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I didn't want one anyway, norm one, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've we've five nominations, no wins. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 4>the reverse of like a really good boxing career, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're none from five. What was it generally

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<v Speaker 3>like at the Brits?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Brits is one of those things where it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bit like la in the You moan about it

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<v Speaker 4>when you go, but most people don't get a chance

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<v Speaker 4>to go, so moaning about it's a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it. People are like, oh, bloody Brits.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight you catch yourself doing that and like, how a minute,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm moaning about.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to the Brits. You know, I said about La

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<v Speaker 3>as well. People go to LA and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, well, most people would love to go to La really,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, Bridge is.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, it's a long way away, yeah too, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to go to taxi.

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<v Speaker 6>Home, Joe, do you want to take Yeah, those taxis.

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<v Speaker 6>I like, I like going to any kind of award

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<v Speaker 6>ceremony because you just get to dress up and it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's not you're part of your regular sort

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<v Speaker 6>of day to day life. And I think probably you

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<v Speaker 6>feel that more with an award show than you do

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<v Speaker 6>with anything else that you do when you're working.

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<v Speaker 4>You see some very famous people there, which is which

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<v Speaker 4>is exciting. It's exciting to see Robbie Williams and the Donna.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think there's a genuine kind of crescendo with

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<v Speaker 6>sort of anticipation and then actually going to the event

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<v Speaker 6>and it's very I don't know, it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 6>as good as maybe you thought it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think seeing that you see that in everyone,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, yeah, kind of collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>Well with the Brits especially, seems to be it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of produced for TV, isn't it. It's made more as

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show. Yeah, they say the room.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well that's what they say with the presenting, isn't

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<v Speaker 6>it that you have to present to the living rooms

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<v Speaker 6>not to the room itself? And I think that's very

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<v Speaker 6>true with everyone who's there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, whereas the untelevised awards shows are a bit more

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sort of yeah, anything goes really Yeah, it's looser,

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<v Speaker 4>which is quite fun. Where's the bridge is like really tight? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>which is quite impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, do you go to the parties afterwards?

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<v Speaker 6>We have done in the past, but I think we've

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<v Speaker 6>never really felt because there's the three major part isn't

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<v Speaker 6>There's like Warner, Sony and Universe Universal, And I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think we've ever really been invited to those parties.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we remember that last time we were

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<v Speaker 4>nominated for two Bricks and we didn't get invited to

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<v Speaker 4>the Warner party despite the fact that we're on Warner

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<v Speaker 4>in America, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like cheers, I'm going to go home.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to come anyway. It's fine. Things like

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<v Speaker 3>that that you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is that the other side of that

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<v Speaker 4>coin is that we don't cultivate celebrity status.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't seek it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not and so you can't really blame people for not,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, inviting us to the parties because we're not.

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<v Speaker 5>We we value our anonymity so much.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want to be in like three Am whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is, you know, Gordon Smart, Bizarre or whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like not that I was saying we would be, but

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<v Speaker 4>certainly other bands of our size are more like celebrities

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<v Speaker 4>whereas we're not.

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<v Speaker 5>And we always say that we love that, which we do.

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<v Speaker 4>So it isn't really anyone that we're not that brands

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<v Speaker 4>aren't falling over themselves like give us like free clothes

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<v Speaker 4>or invited to sort of celebri parties because we pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much project and imag you're not wanting to be at

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<v Speaker 4>the party.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, Yeah, the secret is that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>But if anyone is listening from a brand or throwing

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<v Speaker 2>a party, these guys definitely want to be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah's only got one shoe one? I really do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're there and there's these really famous people and

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite a star struck moment, Madonna or as you say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you go and talk to them?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever go? I'm just going to go, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to go. And you have in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>have you whoever you spoken to?

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<v Speaker 5>I've spoken to people like Johnny mar Warren Ellis.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not We're not talking like you know, Ue celebrities,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're talking like you know, Indie major, major defens

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<v Speaker 4>people and really famous people.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't think of any more but demoo Leary.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know I've approached Dermota Lyrics twice. That nice guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's one of the things I think

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<v Speaker 4>you learn quite early on that you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get very much out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, nobody's going to much out of it, you or them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it can't go well enough, can it? Because I've

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<v Speaker 2>done it very rarely. And unless that person says to you,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting on, so well, let's change numbers, go on

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<v Speaker 2>holiday together and become best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>However, not unless they are as nice as that Tom

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<v Speaker 3>from Savian, I'll start guitar text holiday. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>drinks have been consumed on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>He genuinely said that you and your family should come

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<v Speaker 2>on holday with me and.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah anyway, Yeah, you're right exactly. That's it's yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's the best thing that could happen. Unless that's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen. It's not going to uns It's Tom.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if I go up to anyone, as soon

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<v Speaker 6>as I decide to approach them, I also make a

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<v Speaker 6>decision to leave as quickly as possible. So I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to be in and out drive by a drive by. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so what is it? Is it Tom them into the face.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Just say I'm a big fan. I've listened to you

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<v Speaker 6>since since I was little, and I still do.

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<v Speaker 7>I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love your work on X Factor. I've liked to

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<v Speaker 3>present jobs Dermott.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. The second time I saw a Dermot, I was like, Dermot,

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<v Speaker 6>it's me.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's in and out. It really is.

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<v Speaker 6>Because yeah, like you say, there's there's you're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to be best mates, and you don't really want to

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<v Speaker 6>be best mates. You just want to acknowledge. You want

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<v Speaker 6>them to know that you acknowledge their greatness.

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<v Speaker 4>That you're a fair Once I just remembered one per

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<v Speaker 4>famous person on the bricks. But when we met Harriet

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<v Speaker 4>Harman and the Brits, which was quite cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we did.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we saw Vince Cable and what I did

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<v Speaker 4>to Vince Cable was I thought, don't go up to him,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just raised my glass to him and he

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<v Speaker 4>raised his glass back and it was that was like

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<v Speaker 4>that was great because I didn't have to involve any

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<v Speaker 4>talking and disturbing. I just acknowledged that I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a good, good European.

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<v Speaker 3>I raised my glass and that was it, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of like, you should do more of that less.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I love all your work. Do that for

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<v Speaker 3>dirmit next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Just raise the glass and they'd be like, who's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm a waiter. Obviously, you have fans that

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<v Speaker 2>come and do these say these things to you, so

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<v Speaker 2>that probably helps when you're when you're meeting famous people

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, Leary, you've been in that position.

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<v Speaker 2>What do people come and say to you? Do they say?

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<v Speaker 2>Do people do the same thing? Generally come over and

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<v Speaker 2>just say Joe Gus I just wanted to say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan. I just want to say that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're out or do they want to go on

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<v Speaker 2>holiday with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you get get varieties, yeah, all kinds.

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<v Speaker 4>You get the people who come up to you and

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<v Speaker 4>don't know really who you are, but they know that

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<v Speaker 4>you are in some way famous, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is can be quite annoying because it's like, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, like, yeah, there's no value at all with this inituaction.

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<v Speaker 4>And you get some people who stick around so long

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<v Speaker 4>that you and they don't say very much, and you

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<v Speaker 4>have to make small talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I ask them sort of, you know, what they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>in the summer.

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<v Speaker 4>And sometimes it seems like they're getting bored, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're getting bored. Don't say anything then, But so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>keeping this up. Yeah, you're not leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's a very it can be very weird.

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<v Speaker 6>I had an interaction once where probably my most memorable

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<v Speaker 6>was after a show, this woman came up to him, like,

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<v Speaker 6>you did amazing things tonight. I was wondering if I

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<v Speaker 6>could return the favor and do something amazing to you.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA, that's like the kind of thing that people send

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<v Speaker 3>a sixty.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah yeah, and I said no.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, no, thank you, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a nice in first so Gus used

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<v Speaker 2>to have a restaurant close to here, yes, until fairly recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Did did fans of the band know your involvement in it?

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<v Speaker 2>And would they come because in a way, you're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>duck there if you kind of say, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 2>promote it as this is my thing, and they know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, I know exactly where he's going to be today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I was literally in there like three

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<v Speaker 4>or four days a week, eight hours a day, like

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<v Speaker 4>cooking and like wiping tables and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't very glamorous, you know. Would people come in.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes not as many as I expect as a hot Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think that most of our fans and probably

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<v Speaker 4>outside London, and a lot of them don't have the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of because a lot of the kind of teenagers,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of them don't have the kind of means

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of come into London and visit what was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a somewhat expensive place to eat, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like there wasn't that many.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a few, there was, There was definitely a few,

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<v Speaker 4>But I was I was expecting more, not like I

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<v Speaker 4>was disappointed, but actually I think that the place more

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<v Speaker 4>or less had a reputation largely based on food.

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<v Speaker 3>Really more than the fact that I was sort of a.

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<v Speaker 6>There was that you talking about a funny story where

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<v Speaker 6>Gus was sort of in the back doing some work

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<v Speaker 6>and to access the toilets you had to go out

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<v Speaker 6>the back, and this fan went to the toilet and

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<v Speaker 6>stopped and looked at Gus and was like, aren't you

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<v Speaker 6>an l chair?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>He was like, why are you working a calf?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>You can see our people apron on and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because at the time, I mean, not that you're now

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<v Speaker 2>on the way down, but I mean even then you

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<v Speaker 2>were you were really big, like you'd already become really big. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you played back Madison Square Garden. Yeah, And there

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 2>is something kind of insane about being in a band

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that goes and plays Madison Square and then you come

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<v Speaker 2>home and then but when you're not doing that, you

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<v Speaker 2>are working in a in a in a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>little yet is that for you? Is it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in between tours and the records to keep you just sane?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I really enjoyed it, and I you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>was but yeah, it was a great thing for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so it meant that, like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>we had six months off, I really didn't do anything. Basically,

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 4>we didn't we hung out a bit, or we weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>We weren't doing like, we weren't in studio or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know, the seven days and a week

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<v Speaker 4>is a lot of days really, So like three days

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<v Speaker 4>a week, I would go down to Dandy. I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>there at seven in the morning opening up. And this

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<v Speaker 4>was in the winter. It was cold and dark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, doing that, and I'd be free about

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<v Speaker 4>three thirty and I have two days off just to

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<v Speaker 4>do my own admin and whatever. And then the weekend

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<v Speaker 4>with my girlfriend and it was it was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a great working week. Yeah, really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joe, what's your equivalent? I know that because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have Gus doesn't have the restaurant anymore. But Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>in that time and since, what's what's your between records,

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<v Speaker 2>between tours? What do you fill the day with? I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it's something really really extravagant. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>complete opposite of that. I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that you're in a speedboat most of the time.

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<v Speaker 8>Well I am, yeah, ok, yeah, no, I basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>largely my role in the band is kind of to

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<v Speaker 8>initiate the songs.

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<v Speaker 6>So actually I spend a lot of time doing nothing

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 6>and waiting for that to happen. So I'm I just

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<v Speaker 6>have to be very close to my guitar, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I have. I have I stay active.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to stay fit. I got boxing.

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<v Speaker 6>I got into boxing, did you, but not not not

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<v Speaker 6>not working, not actually boxing club and not doing it

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<v Speaker 6>for money. I was I was actually just working with

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<v Speaker 6>the personal trainer who was a boxer. It was Ben

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<v Speaker 6>Knuckle at times, yes, and yeah, no, I saw I

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<v Speaker 6>was kind of doing that. And trying to pick up

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 6>languages is something that ongoing endeavor of mine and sort

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<v Speaker 6>of like failing at the first hurdle really, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>something that I want to keep. I've actually you don't

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<v Speaker 6>know this, but I'm actually trying to learn Italian.

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<v Speaker 3>You told me about two years that you want Italian.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's so good. Yeah, yeah, I mean you know

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Ben, Yeah, yeah, how do you do you go

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<v Speaker 3>to a class? No, I've only started.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on a ten day streak on dual LINGO.

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<v Speaker 9>Good.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know if I can drop can I drop names

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<v Speaker 6>of apps?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I might have plugged you a

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<v Speaker 2>lingo on here before because I was trying to learn

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<v Speaker 2>French for a long yeah, and I still am. But

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is that I've realized and another thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>picked up is learning the piano. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>learning to drive a car, is it. You don't get

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<v Speaker 2>to a point where you fit you're finish. Yeah, you've

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<v Speaker 2>never finished learning. And so I'm kind of regretting starting

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<v Speaker 2>now because I realized it's now a curse for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 6>Although it's a small improvement on my Italian from knowing

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<v Speaker 6>very little to knowing a little more than very little.

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<v Speaker 6>But I was walking today and there's a restaurant called

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<v Speaker 6>left Keta and now I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's the fork. Yeah, so let's work it.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I can kind of speak Italian read Italian.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll give you a good tip for learning language.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch films like anything on but with like French subtitles,

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<v Speaker 4>like a film you know well, film you know well,

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<v Speaker 4>or just any film where you can where they're speaking English,

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<v Speaker 4>and it just kind of like just you can just

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<v Speaker 4>teach stuff, new words and stuff, and it's just quite

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<v Speaker 4>a good it's quite a goods very low effort thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't it isn't you know you're not watching French film.

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Just watch like you know, Born Identity, but with French subtitles. Yeah,

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 4>it's just quite a good way to get it into

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<v Speaker 4>your head and just learn.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a good too. I guessing I reckon you're

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<v Speaker 3>good at languages. I'm good. I speak French and quite

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm quite good at languages.

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<v Speaker 6>He is very good at languages, especially the Romantic ones.

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<v Speaker 6>But you also pick up You've picked up German quite quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I want I've really looked in German. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried to do Dore for a while. I should

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<v Speaker 5>go back into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a kind of weird shrug bow, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go obviously, I don't know how to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't we end it? That's a micro draft Michael

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<v Speaker 3>tim Peak, the astronaut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, are you friends with him?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 6>We whether he would recognize us again? Again, I'm sure

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 6>he would, because I'm sure that's a process that you

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<v Speaker 6>have to learn as an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 3>To super recognition. Really, Tim, yeah, we were.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went to the European Astronaut Center, which is

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<v Speaker 4>part of yes A as they call it.

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<v Speaker 5>European Space Agency which is in just As Colone.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was quite funny because we were being given

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<v Speaker 4>a tour round and it was really cool, like we

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 4>didn't know what to expect and they were just there

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 4>was and then there were the two people have given

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 4>us the tour, like just tracks going.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, I think is Tim in today?

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 4>And they were oh, yeah, I've seen in the office

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 4>and and they were like, oh, well Tim tim peaksin today,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 4>we might see if he's around, saying they're like, what

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Tim Peak?

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Because you know, not.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 4>To us, but I'm aware that he's like a major

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 4>celebrity in the UK, like I think that every school

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 4>kid like has opposed to Tim Peak bedroom more basically.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 3>And so they brought out Tim Peak and we chatted

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 3>to him. Yeah.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 6>It's kind of the equivalent of going to like your

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 6>Atlantic and then saying, oh, I think jay Z's around.

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we just I think he's around. We can get

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<v Speaker 3>can we get?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 6>And jay Z coming up to you, I'm just like, yeah,

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 6>Tim pea yeah, and he's you know, safest pair of

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 6>hands in Britain.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what did he have to say for himself? And

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>what did you ask Tim Peak?

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 4>We the thing is that we're not really space freaks.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing, so it's a little bit awkward when you

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, when you're It kind of goes back to

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 4>that Newton celebrities thing, where like you you an't just

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 4>celebrity and you realize that you've just got up to

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>them because they're famous.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 3>And you're not even a fan. Really.

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's kind of like Tim peaks. I'm only very.

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Aware of what he did or who he's an astronaut.

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 4>I know he'd recently been in space. I know he's

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 4>an a marathon in space. What Yeah, he did a

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 4>marathon in space on treadmill.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>But isn't it well okay, I'm I'm not going to

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>even get into that. Okay, So these are the things

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>he knew.

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 3>These are the things I knew to get. Yeah, but

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I just what do we ask him?

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 4>I think he asked ask small questions because you know,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 4>it's easy to ask a band astronaut, I should be

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 4>easy to ask what's it like in space?

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>He must be so sick of that, Like he probably

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>thought you guys are really cool because you were really.

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Maybe really indifferent going. Yeah, I don't know. I asked

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 3>him if you liked living in clothes, he said, I

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>actually live in bond. Yeah. That was good, good chat.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he was very much like we were kind of

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 6>sort of like, you know, the interaction between someone who

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 6>works the land and someone who owns the land. You know,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 6>we're not looking them in the eye, and you don't

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 6>know what to say to them. And you know, I

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 6>didn't know what to say other than bloody great job

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:00.959
<v Speaker 6>what he did in space.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, in the world.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 4>He didn't know our band, we didn't know his work,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. It's a little bit kind

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 4>of like but it was fun. Yeah, it was cool.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean I think a lot of people were, you know,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of our crew and got back

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 4>their kids like all like obsessed with Tim Peak and

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 4>it was like, oh my god, I can't wait to

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 4>tell little you know whoever that you met Tim Peak because.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 3>It is mental. Yeah. He's really nice guy, very nice guy.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 3>He seems like a nice guy. Yeah.

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to be honest, I don't know what he

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>did either. The space thing I've actually got a bit

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>of a problem with because I think it's a waste

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>of money, now, do you Yeah.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I just think like, do we need to send a

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 3>probe to the Sun. Ye doesn't that happened recently?

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think and I'm also I'm there getting in

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>trouble if I'm not recycling my tea bag. And then

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 2>they set a rocket off and it's like, that's just

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>shouting all those tea bags I've ever.

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and I just think what was that for?

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And I said, what we want to just see what

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>we want to, just see if we can reach the Sun.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit like, come on, let's talk a bit

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>about your show. That is fairly soon, isn't it in

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Forest Hills in New York? An immersive show? Is that

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 2>next month?

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It's June. Wow? Next month is June? Two months?

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Two months? Yeah? So what what is it exactly?

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's it's in a stadium in New York,

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's an im as much as I know, it's

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>an immersive show.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think the idea is that it's going to

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 4>be sort of like surround sound. It's going to be

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 4>sonically immersive. We're working with an Acoustics, which is a

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 4>sort of cool speaker company, and they have these very

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 4>state of the art speakers, and so we've been in

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 4>a studio remixing our sort of songs for being played live,

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 4>where we can put different things in different places and

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 4>hopefully create quite a cool thing.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 5>It's about just good way something up, I think, isn't it.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's it's.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 3>It is.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 6>It's less about a constant surround sound. It's more about

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 6>just having nice moments that feel as though you were

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 6>in the middle of I think.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>So, how's that done?

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And they're like millions of little speakers hidden everywhere or

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>is it certainly not normal?

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, lots, yeah, yeah, and I think that you know,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 4>it means that we you're talking to the two least

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>techie members of the band, maybe any band.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>People.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, just leave it up to them basically,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 4>like so you know, you can sort of like we

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 4>have sort of quit a lot of sound effects in

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>our songs and things, right, so like Adeline, for example,

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 4>it's like helicopter and you can kind of like you

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 4>can you can make the helicopter kind of like fly

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 4>like over people's heads, like from behind and things like that,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 4>or like something like complete there's these kind of sirens

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 4>and we've made it so the sirens are going to

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 4>kind of spin roun in this crazy way.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be like you're surrounded by police cars,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>which is that's what I want from all my cards?

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so you know things like that hopefully, And

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 4>you can even do pretty cool stuff like you could

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 4>you could throw a beach ball into the crowd and

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 4>you could the crowd would throw the beach ball around

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and you could map the path of the beach ball

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 4>with a sound and it would seem as though the

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>beach ball was controlling the sound.

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>To the crowd. Are you going to do that? Well,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>this has been it's been talked about, it's been talked about.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 4>Some pretty doesn't seem so sore, which the speakers I think,

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think that we are. That's the kind

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 4>of thing that you can do. So we're hoping to

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 4>have some fun and on those lines.

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And this is in New York in the Forest Hills,

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>which is an old state. It's like it's an open

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>air music then, isn't it. It's not a football stadium.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It is a concert place. Have you been over there

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>whilst doing this and working this out?

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Have you been there? Not been there?

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 4>No, We've been working in the anacoustics studio, which is

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 4>in sort of like Highgates, but we've not been there,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 4>forest Soils. I guess it's like outside the city maybe,

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 4>or maybe in some distant part of I.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Think it's in between Brooklyn and Queens.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Right on Long Island somewhere anyway, Yeah, yeah, but.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be cool.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And is the idea to take that elsewhere or

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>is this a one off? If people want to go,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>they want to experience being surrounded by a million.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Police guards at Old Jay show, then it's it's now.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I think it's now, and hopefully ever Okay, not never,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think that hopefully we can if it

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 4>goes well, we can see about doing it, you know,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 4>on the road.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I think it's kind of like where we're testing the

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>walls really Yeah. Yeah, but you guys play in the

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 3>States a lot. We do go tomorrow.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Is it safe to say you can find out tomorrow? Yeah,

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>to do a bunch of shows or well, got Coachella,

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>so we're doing We're doing that three weeks, aren't they.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>We spoke the other week about Coachella, you and ICUs,

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and you were saying, how it's that's another

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>place where you feel like you're not getting invited to

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 2>the right parties afterwards.

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it feels more fun until you're there. Yeah, kind

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of thing.

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 2>But you're going to play both weekends of Coachella and

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>then in between plays and shows.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Right in between. And also you know, sence, Yeah.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And you bigger in the States, would you say than

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you are here. I've got that in my head for

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>some reason. I know you are really big here, but

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>in my mind maybe it's maybe it's because I know

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that you did Madison Square so early on in your career,

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Like in my mind, you can't just do that without

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>being really really big in the same I think they.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Are probably bigger in the States and are here particularly regionally. Yeah,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think that here our popularity is it's

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 4>fairly London centers, or so we're told, because I think

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 4>that in the States we have quite spread quite nicely

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 4>across the whole country, which is quite I mean, that's

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's quite rare, I think because we I

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 4>think it's because we went out there early on and

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 4>when we played you know, Kansas City, and we played

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, Birmingham, Labama in like really small clubs on

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>our first album, and then we we you know, it

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 4>was winning hearts and minds, boots on the ground cliches.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it kind of does really help doing that something,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 4>not just I think a lot of acts go out

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 4>and be like we'll do the media shows in New

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 4>York and LA and then the rest will come to us,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't really work like that.

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what is it you think that the Americans

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>get about it the most?

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question. Of course, we've allays stronger to answer. Really,

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 3>so people ask that a lot and it's like, I mean,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know a little bit.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that we I think that we have

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that we feel quite a quirky you know,

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 4>we were sort of like the quirky band of this

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 4>of the first half of this decade maybe for America

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 4>or something.

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, we were like the the

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>in the you go. Well, I think we've.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 6>Consumed a lot of American culture, whether that's music or film.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 6>Those are the two kind of main areas of America

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 6>that we enjoy the most. I think in terms of

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 6>their exports and that and their shoes, their sneakers and burghers,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 6>and that's quite likely.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so I think we.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 6>I grew up listening to a lot of American music,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 6>like a lot of the Laurel Canyon kind of folk

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 6>stuff like Crosby Steel's and Nash and Joni Mitchell and

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, Jackson Brown and James Taylor, And I think

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 6>I listened to that from a very young age and

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 6>I still listen to it now, and I think, you know, writing,

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 6>maybe that kind of comes out in some of my writing, and.

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Gus responds to it.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 6>In a completely different way because he has a completely

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 6>different musical upbringing, and that classical upbringing that he grew

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 6>up with creates a quirkiness. But certainly the core of

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 6>that is music that Americans can identify with, I think.

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 6>And it's also very audience friendly in terms of demographics.

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 6>You have teenagers that are into our music and then

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 6>they play it to their parents, and their parents get

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 6>into the music. So I think we have quite an

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 6>American sounding.

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Sound.

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 6>And you know, we were once confused with an La band,

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 6>I think when we first started playing in Leeds and

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 6>again Tom his production is very kind of universal at

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 6>the moment. It's not specific to a certain country. It's

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 6>kind of that bedroom producer kind of sound, and I

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 6>think you can there's a part of that that's going

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 6>on in our recent music. So yeah, I think it's

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 6>something that they understand. But it has a quirkiness which

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 6>may allow a certain sense of I don't know, maybe

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 6>pride in listening to our music. We're quite different and

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 6>that's something to show off. Maybe if you're playing music

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 6>to your friends in America and they celebrate that and

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 6>they don't belittle.

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 3>It, yeah, like being yeah, we're good at that. Yeah.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>So when you're playing a big show where it's like

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the O two here or Madison Square or the Forest

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Hill Show, I'm always interested to know because I've never

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>been around it. What goes on before the show as

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the band, Like when you turn up to the venue.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 2>It's obviously a world away from turning up to a

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>pub where you carry your own gear in and you know,

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you might be given a rider of free red stripe

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 2>between you or whatever.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>What.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.919
<v Speaker 2>It's a huge thing now and there's catering, and there's

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 2>you do have a huge team of people, and you

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 2>have your text and all of that. But what's it

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>like in the middle of that, is you three guys

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and what is that like?

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 6>I think playing at the O two or paint Man

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Square Guards. It's the same as playing like a eight

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 6>hundred cap venue in the sense that you walk down

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 6>a corridor and you go into a room. When you

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 6>go into that room, you've got Gusts and Tom waiting

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 6>there and they look up from their phones and they're like,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 6>all right, And that's pretty much what happens whether you're

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 6>in a big room.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm reading Yeah, I think it's it is like that.

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a really, it's a it's a it's not

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 4>there's not a huge amount of difference really because you

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 4>think you're right exactly. It always comes down to a

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 4>dressing room and a stage kind of you know, and

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 4>they might be bigger.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they both might be bigger.

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I remember, like as a kid watching this

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Oasis documentary I think it was called There and then Right,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and it was some backstage pitture. Then playing at ELL's Court.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Played a big show at Elve's Court, and they all

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 2>turned up and there were these five scooters waiting for

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>them and they were burning around the floor in these

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.919
<v Speaker 2>racing these scooters. That, in my mind, is what everyone's doing.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel now I might have been hoodwink. Do you

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>just turn up for showtime, go on, get it done,

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 6>Essentially, Yeah, I think it does play into the part

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 6>of exactly what you were saying earlier with fame, and

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 6>with fame becomes opportunities, and I think because we're not

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 6>we like to sort of hide away from that element

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 6>of fame where you have a lot of opportunities where,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, I think I think when like Taylor Swift

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 6>plays a gig, there's about sixteen companies that have stalls

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 6>before the fans go into the actual main auditorium area.

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 6>And I think when you have those sixteen companies, they

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 6>might one of them might be Segue and they might

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 6>say do you want some Segues or Vesper might be like,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.280
<v Speaker 6>we've got some vespers, do you want to ride them around?

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 6>But we don't have those. They're not the channels that

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 6>we go down the band the thing. We just get

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 6>on and play the gig without any many many flourishes

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 6>around the build up.

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 2>Are you totally used to playing those big rooms now?

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I think we are. I think we are.

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Aren't We to the point where it's actually you know,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 4>that's why our answers to questions like that are actually

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 4>quite undwhelming. Because we're not really we're not like beating

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 4>our chests and just like sort of, you know, whatever

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 4>it is that you know, you might imagine bandstaying beforehand,

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 4>kind of doing crazy rituals or sort of like.

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 5>Bathing in champagne, or I don't know, whatever it might be.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, we're just kind of sitting around really in

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 4>the way that we usually before a show.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, I think you're more the flagship shows.

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 6>You are definitely more self aware, nervous, and you know,

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 6>focused on knowing that this is a really really big

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 6>deal because the all the kind of the country's media

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 6>are there, and you've got your fan family there, all

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 6>your friends have come to this show. You're playing to

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 6>eighteen thousand people, and you don't want to fuck up,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 6>and you go on stage and you are somewhat playing

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 6>with all that in mind, and it feels like you're

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 6>for me. It feels like you're playing in For the

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 6>first couple of songs, you're playing in treacle, and everything's

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 6>so much harder to do, and you have a sense

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 6>almost vertigo because you know how big this is, so

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 6>you do you are surrounded with a certain amount of anxieties.

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 6>More so in those shows than smaller shows, but.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 3>We don't treat it any differently do.

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I always feel like those moments might be key to

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>keeping it exciting and fun, because I wonder we have

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>a band like the Rolling Stones, for example, who have

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 2>played football stadiums for the past forty years. What differentiates

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Toronto in two thousand and five Chicago last week. It's

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the same size, it's always the same size, It's always

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.959
<v Speaker 2>the same show essentially, And that to me is kind

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of almost a bit sad that they that it's almost

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>for them, it would be so normal to like, that's just.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>What they do. Does that feel that way for you? Yeah,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think that you're right.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, I think for some really big acts,

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I think it even comes down to the furniture, and

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 4>they would travel with all of their own backstage furniture

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 4>so that the dressing room pretty much looks identical every day,

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, or as at least we're like company chairs

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 4>today or not very company chairs today, you know. But

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.800
<v Speaker 4>it can become you know, you do that to a

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>certain level, that can become touring loses. It's kind of

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 4>like I said, it's quite a lot, but you know,

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 4>the kind of like seat of the pants kind of

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 4>like just everything's a bit all over the place, you know,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 4>on our first album, it was an incredibly fun two

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 4>years tour an album because it was pretty all over

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 4>the place in a good way. Like we were, you know,

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 4>in the sense that on tour, you know, you didn't

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 4>know really what was going to happen the next day.

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 4>It was every every venue was different, you know, you

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 4>were a people were more offering you more kind of

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 4>man opportunities, and it was now we're protected from a

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff, which it used to be like somebody

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 4>be like, hey, do you want to jump in the

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 4>back of my truck and we'll drive over to my

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 4>friend's house. He's got a pull before the show, and

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 4>we'd be like, yeah, it sounds great.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 3>It was now I.

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Think that offer wouldn't even necessarily make its way to

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 4>the band. That would have been turned down before it

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 4>got to us. Yeah, which is a bit sad, isn't it.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that we and we do try to quite

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 4>un quite kind of keep it real.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 3>We don't.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 4>We don't like to be too protected or too you know,

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 4>little kept like little kind of princes in the tower,

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 4>because we do want to have that element of having

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 4>fun on tour and spontaneity, I think is what I'm

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 4>looking for, you know. But you know so many memories

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 4>of an awesome wave where you know, just doing really

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 4>mad stuff like that, meeting a lot of people, and

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 4>it was huge amounts of fun, and that does necessarily

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 4>drop off when you get when you get bigger.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like you know, I remember, I remember a number

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 6>of times where you'd be loading all your equipment back

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 6>in the splitter van and so girl be like, do

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 6>you want to smoke some weed in my car? You'd

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 6>be like yeah, but then now.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 4>And then then we come back to my house, not like

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 4>to have sex, but like with like with all my friends,

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 4>and we'd like go back to people's houses and parties

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 4>after gigs all the time.

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it never really happens now, you.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 6>Know, Yeah it would probably would range us probably wouldn't

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 6>even get to our family of people representing two start

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 6>and stop with the security. Can I speak to the band?

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 6>I want to see if they can in my car?

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.439
<v Speaker 4>No, that's not you know, these happened and the people

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 4>used to like throw notes on stage, being like call

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 4>us for a good time, and we'd be like better

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 4>call this another you know, like just see what happens,

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 4>and you usually meet some fun people and you usually

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 4>end up going back to the house and drinking a lot.

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 4>But like, it was pretty crazy, and I think that

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 4>now that you play bigger venues, it's harder for those

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 4>notes to even make their way to the band or whatever,

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 4>or we'd be out there packing up our gear and

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 4>sending the T shirts.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was more because people could talk to us.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, that's sad.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean it's not it is sad, but it is sad,

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<v Speaker 9>but it's it's a controlled it's the fun is more controlled,

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<v Speaker 9>and I suppose our girlfriends would probably prefer it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, you know, I thing in thank god they've

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<v Speaker 2>got so big that those notes don't reach the stages.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally too far.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk just a little bit about Relaxer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been out for ages now, but it is your

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<v Speaker 2>most recent album, Chatto one things I love about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a strange thing to say how.

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<v Speaker 3>Short it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like the fact that it's so it's eight tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you take that to your label after you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two years or whatever it was, and you say here

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<v Speaker 2>is are they totally fine with that? And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh cool, Like we'd put these eight out because that

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<v Speaker 2>feels to me like a hard sell, especially for a

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>band your size to be like at his a new

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 2>album and it's eight tracks long. I can imagine they

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<v Speaker 2>would have said, well, this is half of your album.

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<v Speaker 3>You well.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the cell wasn't in the number of tracks.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 6>It was in the length of the album. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think we figured out I think it was it had

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<v Speaker 6>to be over thirty there's thirty one minutes or thirty

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<v Speaker 6>four minutes, had to be over a certain minute. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think once we realized it was over that, it's

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<v Speaker 6>about forty minutes, isn't it. Yeah, then we got very

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<v Speaker 6>little problems flat form.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that increasingly, you know, it's like you need to

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<v Speaker 4>have It's more it's like tracks, isn't it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there were there were deemed to be enough tracks or

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<v Speaker 4>singles or whatever on the album that that was okay, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think, you know, and we know we'd put in just

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 6>as much works because we had a lot of we

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<v Speaker 6>had two or three other songs that we had worked

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<v Speaker 6>on and we just didn't think that they suited the album,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think we quite liked the idea of having

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<v Speaker 6>a short, punchy album Stocky. It was it was a

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<v Speaker 6>different album for us, you know, for you know, in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of how we displayed the album and how it

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 6>looked it was aesthetically it was. It was a different

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 6>album for us, and I think we, I don't know,

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 6>we didn't realize. I think only until you release a

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 6>body of work do you realize, or from being told

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<v Speaker 6>by other people that it sounds different to your other works.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 6>And that's something that happened to us with Relaxing, And

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<v Speaker 6>I guess that's exciting because we couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>The visuals of it are my favorite that you've had

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Oh yeah, the rendering of the tron esque

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 2>computer game. Yeah, yeah, nice, I'm into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. More of that, please?

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more of the computer games?

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys play game? How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was that Tom found this image on

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Twitter thinking it was like a digital painting or something.

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 4>We didn't know it was from this game turned out

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 4>to be a still from this sort of cult nineties

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 4>playstession game called Nasty Dream Emulater, And then we just

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 4>took it from their Really, I mean in terms of I.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 5>Think we've all I think we've all grown up. I

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:07.919
<v Speaker 5>think we've all growne up with computer games.

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Were the first generation, you know, to have had them

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<v Speaker 4>our entire lives. Never never, never thought of them as

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<v Speaker 4>a new thing, you know. But I mean I'm not

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 4>a really a computer game person.

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 6>No, No, Sometimes I think why don't I have v R?

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Because it looks like so.

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<v Speaker 6>Much fun if you see people using it online. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of compilations of people, like a lot of

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 6>people losing their ship and falling off their chair and

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 6>falling from a standing position.

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 4>They is any people think they're on the edge of

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<v Speaker 4>a building and they get pached off or something by

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 4>their friends.

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<v Speaker 3>No, what you mean like the stag do trick where Yeah,

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 3>something like that. I don't know, just talking.

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking like they're doing a climbing similar similar, right,

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 6>and then and they're watching themselves climb and then they

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 6>fall and then falling scared and so much that they

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 6>lose contact with reality they fall forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, very.

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 6>Funny because it's very confusing and you you you you

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<v Speaker 6>wonder how can you suspend disbeliefs to such an extent

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 6>where you forget you actually are.

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<v Speaker 3>Must be that good. Now, maybe it's just that it

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<v Speaker 3>does look so good. I've not tried it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just read this article with some where somebody was

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<v Speaker 4>all about VR and somebody with somebody was the journalist

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<v Speaker 4>was trying out this thing where they were they were

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 4>they were in a VR.

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.280
<v Speaker 3>They were in a VR, as.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe they said, and they were in a VR

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<v Speaker 4>where they were they were playing Sigmund Freud and a

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<v Speaker 4>patient and the they had to start it off. The

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 4>person started off as a patient by saying a problem

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<v Speaker 4>they thought they had, and they were like, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>guilty that I don't see enough of my mum because

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<v Speaker 4>she's in a nursing home a long way away from

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<v Speaker 4>where I live.

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 3>And then they switched to Freud and.

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<v Speaker 4>They had they this person had to create both sides

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<v Speaker 4>of the conversation. But they were switching back in the

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<v Speaker 4>VR from psychoanalysts to and they came out of it

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 4>feeling like they've had a really really good conversation and

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 4>they'd like solved a lot of shit if they've just

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 4>been talking to themselves in a VR.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that crazy. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I think VR is good. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I like the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Of making someone fall over.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was another thing that they did where if

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<v Speaker 4>it was in Spain, where they make violent men domestic

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<v Speaker 4>abusively domestically abusive men go into a VR and they

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<v Speaker 4>get VRD where they have to be a small like

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<v Speaker 4>a woman and there's like a bit and in the

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<v Speaker 4>VR there's a big man like bullying them and they

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<v Speaker 4>it makes men understand how physically threatening they can be

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 4>if they don't even know they're being that physically threatening,

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<v Speaker 4>because the VR is so realistic that they genuinely feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they are this five foot five women standing up

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 4>to a big, like six foot man who shouting at them.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really like proving really good for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>rehabilitating like domestic abusers.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's really a lot of good VR out there.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, should I do my im dropping.

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