Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football that could never happen.
Speaker 1: When you're taking a knee, the game is ooh, that
Speaker 1: was cheap. Five to Seattle. It is Monday, November. This
Speaker 1: is Jaguars. Jaguars happening always ended by Hey, now, a
Speaker 1: guy who wants you to know the only pold that
Speaker 1: matters is the CBS Bowl j Peace, What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I have no idea? Why does my headset sound all weird?
Speaker 1: I don't know? I have no does yours? The season
Speaker 1: ended yesterday? What are we doing a show for? What
Speaker 1: is going on? Pete didn't and we got five to go? Baby,
Speaker 1: this is Jaguars is happy Hour. I'm JP Shaddrick, Tony
Speaker 1: was Sally to my left. You are right, Pete Brisco.
Speaker 1: This to our south in Fort Lauderdale. And here's what's
Speaker 1: coming up on the show today. We'll recap Jaguars losing
Speaker 1: again for the final score in Nashville yesterday, the run
Speaker 1: defense or lack thereof again, inconsistent offense. Five games to go,
Speaker 1: now what we'll get some social media questions and yes, sir,
Speaker 1: we got some doozies. Today. We'll go around the division
Speaker 1: and around the National Football League. That's all coming up.
Speaker 1: That's the show. Doug Marone after the game yesterday in Nashville,
Speaker 1: trying to get things right the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I told the players
Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the same questions. You know about jobs, switching quarterbacks, changes
Speaker 1: players and all that stuff. And you know, I still
Speaker 1: believe I don't know what happens in this slave, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna work our ass off to get this team
Speaker 1: right somehow, some way. That's the job. Um, put your
Speaker 1: head down on my pist. Yes am I embarrassed, Yes
Speaker 1: I am that, and and I'm not speaking for anyone else.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to tell them, but I promised them
Speaker 1: that I am going to do a better job and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my butt off to get this thing right.
Speaker 1: All right. That's set the stage for the week ahead
Speaker 1: and for the month ahead for this Jaguars team. Three
Speaker 1: consecutive losses, but I combined a hundred one to thirty
Speaker 1: six to division rivals, and I think it's the first
Speaker 1: time that uh, we've lost three division games since two
Speaker 1: thousand and the first time in the history to row
Speaker 1: three in a row, and the first time in the
Speaker 1: history of the franchise that we've lost three in a
Speaker 1: row by a margin of there was a it was
Speaker 1: a close call in the fifteen where they had twenty
Speaker 1: plus twenty plus and the nineteen that's the next closest, Nicky,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about our expansion team now, I
Speaker 1: mean compared to this mess. Well, there's no way to
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it. I mean it's a it's not very good
Speaker 1: right now. The team isn't very good. It's bad football.
Speaker 1: And you have to look at every level of the
Speaker 1: organization on the football side, so starting with Tom, Dave, Doug,
Speaker 1: and it's their responsibility. I mean, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, that's where that's what they were hired to do.
Speaker 1: And right now it's not going very well. It's not
Speaker 1: good enough. It's uh, it's well beal, it's well below
Speaker 1: good enough. Doug said it, Dougs called it. I think
Speaker 1: Doug's been very honest and transparent. Um, it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what happens and what decisions are made. And uh,
Speaker 1: and it is it's not good right now. I mean
Speaker 1: there's I'm looking looking for and I missed her like, hey,
Speaker 1: like figure out there's opportunity. You know, you're never out
Speaker 1: of it, and you know that. Someone asked me to days, like,
Speaker 1: well you were four and seven and nine. I said,
Speaker 1: that's not even close to the same situation. Number one
Speaker 1: in Nix. This team was losing close games. This team
Speaker 1: was not we trust me. I was in the locker
Speaker 1: room in ninety six. We weren't talking about the playoffs
Speaker 1: at four and seven. We're worried about, like how do
Speaker 1: we win a game? And so that's where you have
Speaker 1: to go back to. If you're this team, it's like
Speaker 1: like forget everything else, Like the playoffs are such a
Speaker 1: pipe dream right now, and so like inconsequential, why would
Speaker 1: you even mention it? That's my point, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: like response to what people asking, like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You gotta win a football game. You gotta win a
Speaker 1: football Game's over. It's over. The thing as you knew
Speaker 1: it two weeks ago during the bye week is over,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, all the way across the board. It's done.
Speaker 1: It's over. What do you mean, what's it's over? They're
Speaker 1: gonna be major sweeping changes they're coming. It's done. But
Speaker 1: like number one. You don't know that. Oh come on, Tony,
Speaker 1: you know that. I don't. I don't know that, like
Speaker 1: the only person. Two more games the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Two more and that's being generous, Pete. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's gonna happen. Here's this is what I do know.
Speaker 1: I knows I don't know. I know this that Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin was hired to run the football side of this business.
Speaker 1: There's two people. Mark Lamping runs the business side. He's
Speaker 1: responsible for what happens on that side. I'm Conflin is
Speaker 1: responsible before it happens on the football side of this organization.
Speaker 1: You know that, I don't know what Tom's gonna do.
Speaker 1: I I think Tom might just walk away. That's just
Speaker 1: a hunch. I don't know why, but I just have
Speaker 1: a hunch. I don't know what he's gonna do. But
Speaker 1: it's his responsibility. That's what he was hired to do. Two.
Speaker 1: Build a winning organization, win football games, compete for the
Speaker 1: NFC title, getting the playoffs, and give yourself a chance
Speaker 1: every year to go win a Lombardi Trophy. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the that's that's what that's what we at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. This organization is here to win
Speaker 1: football games, and that's what you do in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what Tom's gonna do. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe Tom's not gonna be the one making the decision,
Speaker 1: but he but he is. It's his job, that's what
Speaker 1: he was hired to do. But maybe he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be around to make the decision. Maybe they all go.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm saying right now where we
Speaker 1: sit today, what we do know, Pete, is Tom Coughlin
Speaker 1: is in charge and it is his job responsibility. Whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say to what happened, whatever happens on
Speaker 1: the football side, that's okay, But that's coaching. That's no.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm telling you what a the fact is today. Look,
Speaker 1: I have nothing but the us most respect for Tom Coughlin.
Speaker 1: The list came out the other day, the twenty greatest coaches,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't on it and infuriated me. There's no
Speaker 1: way that Tony Dungee should be on any list ahead
Speaker 1: and Tom Coughlin, Tom Coffin will go into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and I can't wait to sit there front
Speaker 1: and center to see him do it. Probably, how is
Speaker 1: How is Tom won two Super Bowls? How is he
Speaker 1: not ahead of I don't know. And I love Tony Dungee,
Speaker 1: but Tom was a better coach Tony dung any one too.
Speaker 1: So that's a here, that's an a side, that's an aside.
Speaker 1: What's going on in this organization right now? There is
Speaker 1: not enough talent to win and that Tom Gofflin's job.
Speaker 1: And so that's what How did it turns so quickly? Though?
Speaker 1: Because they had talent a couple of years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two years ago they had town, but the majority of
Speaker 1: the talent, if you look at it too much of
Speaker 1: was free agent talent that changes quickly. You overpay you
Speaker 1: um and if you go back to Seen, which I love,
Speaker 1: it was such a fun year. But we said it
Speaker 1: on this show it was not repeatable. That you cannot
Speaker 1: count on winning football games that way in the division
Speaker 1: you played for Your four division wins were against second
Speaker 1: and third string quarterbacks. I mean that's yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the reality when you're built that way. It's not sustainable. Ever,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you beat beat the first quarterbacks. Notable.
Speaker 1: But my point is, I agree with my whole point.
Speaker 1: Was it a perfect storm? It was perfect. Story wasn't repeatable,
Speaker 1: and that's fine that happened, but to say that you
Speaker 1: can count on that is not accurate. And you had
Speaker 1: a situation where you had a number of free agents
Speaker 1: that were signed. And give credit to Tom and Dave.
Speaker 1: They signed him that had all time career years and
Speaker 1: it worked out. But from that team, let's just go
Speaker 1: through it. Gibson's gone, had a great year, Barry Church
Speaker 1: has gone, had a great year, Marcel Darius is on
Speaker 1: i R. Malie Jackson gone had a great year. Plays
Speaker 1: Campbell's two years older, and he's not playing like you
Speaker 1: used to. A j boy older, not playing the way.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey no longer on the team, Dante Faller no
Speaker 1: longer jack not playing well, but forget that, but Dante
Speaker 1: Faller no longer team uh twenty, Jalen Ramsey no longer
Speaker 1: on the team. Like the majority of that defense is
Speaker 1: even here and they carried this team well, and how
Speaker 1: many guys from the offensive side of the ball are
Speaker 1: still here? Well, that offense is a whole different story.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they were good, but how many guys
Speaker 1: from that offensive team are still contributors right now? Under
Speaker 1: lender Cam from net A j Can the receiving corps
Speaker 1: outside of uh no chart No. Calmly Ded was a
Speaker 1: role player. Uh Keelan Cole was on that team. He
Speaker 1: had an impactful year. Marquis is gone. I don't know who.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the Marcedes Lewis is gone. Um who's
Speaker 1: a key blocker? So what does that fall? Is it
Speaker 1: falling time? Does it falling Dave? Does it fall on
Speaker 1: the coach? It's that because there's always gonna be turnover
Speaker 1: on your roster, particularly if you go out and get
Speaker 1: the older guys like that. No, but but but it's
Speaker 1: a fair question. So where it falls it falls on.
Speaker 1: I mean it's Tom's responsibility at the end of the day. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's he's the boss. No different, like no different. If
Speaker 1: something happens on the business side, it's like Mark Lamping,
Speaker 1: he's the boss. And that's just the way I mean,
Speaker 1: they they're they signed up for it, that's what they
Speaker 1: were hired to do. And and so you have to
Speaker 1: go back and when you you miss on draft picks
Speaker 1: and you go through free agency, this this happens, and
Speaker 1: so all of a sudden you start having holes in
Speaker 1: the roster and it's hard to fill them, because we
Speaker 1: said this last week. And Pete, you've been covering this
Speaker 1: league as long as I played it for a team
Speaker 1: in National now and you've covered it for the Times
Speaker 1: Union before I even got here. Yeah, and if you
Speaker 1: look at it, the successful teams build through the draft
Speaker 1: and sprinkling free agency. Yeah, they're best players are their
Speaker 1: draft picks, and especially they avoid bad usually in a
Speaker 1: lot of situations, they avoid terrible contracts. I mean, Okay, Tony,
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of this whole conversation,
Speaker 1: you're taking over the Jacksonville Jaguars next year, right, You're
Speaker 1: gonna take it over. Run it. The assets clearly are
Speaker 1: the two draft picks in the first round, big time assets.
Speaker 1: But go through that roster and tell me where the
Speaker 1: other assets are. Well, I think we have good I
Speaker 1: think I think Josh Allen's is gonna be a heck
Speaker 1: of a player. Bingo. I'll tell you if I agree
Speaker 1: with your dog. I think, uh, I think Jannique is
Speaker 1: a very good pass rusher. What do you do with him?
Speaker 1: Though you have no you have a little cap room,
Speaker 1: and you gotta find a way to keep them. You
Speaker 1: gonna pay him the big money. Just a tough situation.
Speaker 1: You have to make that decision. I'm not like one
Speaker 1: thing Pete number one. I'm not the GM, I'm not
Speaker 1: in charge. I'll go through where I see the assets.
Speaker 1: I'm not cutting like we do this every year. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I'm not cutting it. I'm not cutting you. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing I'm not cutting the team either, but I'm just
Speaker 1: telling where, okay, the assets. I think d J. Chark
Speaker 1: is a good player as an opportunity to be number one. UM.
Speaker 1: I think Leonard four Nette in the right system. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a power back, downhill guy. But you have to
Speaker 1: commit to say we're gonna have tight big tight ends
Speaker 1: and fullback on the roster because he would like he
Speaker 1: gets north and south and he has good hands out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, like he's an effective player. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna argue that that's an asset.
Speaker 1: I think I thought he had an outstanding game yesterday.
Speaker 1: About a quarterback, I don't know if there's an asset
Speaker 1: there or not. It might be an overprice, overpriced asset.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be. The quarterback situation is interesting to me
Speaker 1: because it's not like Nick Foles is played terrible by
Speaker 1: any means, and like it wasn't good yesterday. But here's
Speaker 1: my point. If Gardner minshe is in there, you're not
Speaker 1: winning the game by getting you give up two yards rushing,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna You're not gonna win. What did seven
Speaker 1: three at a half? And they've done nothing? Seven three?
Speaker 1: So and this team struggled when Gardner was in there.
Speaker 1: The score points as well, but the who Gardener million
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever the pain is No. I'm bringing up
Speaker 1: the point of people saying, well, bench folds now and
Speaker 1: put Gardner like that's gonna fix everything that doesn't know.
Speaker 1: The bigger question is did they make a mistake by
Speaker 1: paying Folds? Well, I think you have five games to
Speaker 1: find out right now. As of right now after two
Speaker 1: games and im playing, what would your answer be? Way
Speaker 1: too early to make that judgment. I'm not making judgment,
Speaker 1: but you can get an idea right now would be yes,
Speaker 1: they paid them too much, and and his attitude after
Speaker 1: the game. These to need some working on. But I mean, people,
Speaker 1: come on, man. The one thing that I want to
Speaker 1: be consistent here is we know you over paying free agency.
Speaker 1: You always do, so just say you paid too much.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a stupid conversation. The question should be,
Speaker 1: because he's now your quarterback, he's on your roster, can
Speaker 1: you win and get to the Can you win the
Speaker 1: NFC South and get to the playoffs with Nick Foles
Speaker 1: your quarterback? That's the question you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 1: and you have to make that decision over the next
Speaker 1: five weeks. And are you built to pay them, pay
Speaker 1: them that money. They made the decision already in March.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna debate, go back and debate whether it's
Speaker 1: right or wrong. And we can go through and debate
Speaker 1: draft picks. We can do all that revisionist history. It's
Speaker 1: much easier to sit here and with you know, looking back,
Speaker 1: having vision. I'm saying, you asked me, sitting here today,
Speaker 1: looking forward, what decisions do you make? Nick Foles is
Speaker 1: on your team. He's going to be on your team
Speaker 1: next year because of the calf situation and how much
Speaker 1: you've paid him and guaranteed. And so the question now
Speaker 1: is you look forward and as you evaluate things, because
Speaker 1: you can't go back and change it. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: it's impossible. And so you now have to evaluate the
Speaker 1: next five weeks and the question you have to answer
Speaker 1: and you have to make a decision. Can Nick Foles
Speaker 1: be your quarterback to win the a f C South,
Speaker 1: getting the playoffs and contend to win a Lombardi Trophy
Speaker 1: because that at the end of the day, that's all
Speaker 1: that matters. And what's the answer to that question. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you in five weeks. I don't know you have
Speaker 1: an idea. Right now? We have five more shows to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the good stuff right now. Did you
Speaker 1: notice on the outthrow he made that the ball barely
Speaker 1: got there. It looked like he has no zip on
Speaker 1: the ball. I also saw an out route that had
Speaker 1: a lot of zip on it. But you know what's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It was it looked like it
Speaker 1: was in the air for about six weeks. It was
Speaker 1: like I always like the same was a Hania balloon. Listen, Pete.
Speaker 1: I've been watching him for practice. He's coming off collar bone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the impact is. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to ask the trainers, the coaching staff. He sees
Speaker 1: him every day and Fulls didn't say anything. They asked
Speaker 1: him about that after the game, he said, he's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been. He also at times
Speaker 1: didn't look a couple from the pocket. His feet weren't
Speaker 1: always square. I mean it could be a number of things.
Speaker 1: You know that pete, that lower body can get in
Speaker 1: the right position. Half the time is the battle and
Speaker 1: feeling confident where you want to go at the ball.
Speaker 1: We make it before we go to break the point
Speaker 1: I'm making JP and Tony is this lost in the
Speaker 1: how horrible the defense has been, and it has been horrible.
Speaker 1: Is the fact that he hasn't been that good period,
Speaker 1: end of story, in the two games that we have
Speaker 1: seen him. I would say he's average. That's it now.
Speaker 1: If you want to compare it to making the money
Speaker 1: he is, which I think is dangerous because he's now
Speaker 1: on your roster. Fair is he a guy that is,
Speaker 1: you know, top ten quarterback in this league like he's
Speaker 1: getting paid. I don't think so either. We will delve
Speaker 1: into that a bit more a little bit later, the
Speaker 1: quarterback play and the play of the offense as a whole.
Speaker 1: But coming up next, we gotta get into this defense.
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Two hundred nineteen rushing yards allowed. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, with another highlight game against the Jaguars, will
Speaker 1: break it all down when we come back your social
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Speaker 1: and we gave up a lot of clips. Most it
Speaker 1: plays on defense, meaning you know, obviously the naked naked
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, the over rouse to play action pass, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and obviously the run. We thought we
Speaker 1: had a good tack on plan. Our three technique got
Speaker 1: reached and um gave up the big run. We should
Speaker 1: still get him down at the forty our safeties, Um, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, can do a better job there, Head coach
Speaker 1: jag Marone. Yesterday in Nashville after the Jaguars lost to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans forty two twenty the final score and
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Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Brisco are breaking it
Speaker 1: all down and we go to the Jaguars defense. Yesterday
Speaker 1: two nineteen rushing yards allowed in the game, third consecutive
Speaker 1: game allowing over two hundred rushing yards. Derrick Henry has
Speaker 1: another highlight real type of day with a seventy four
Speaker 1: yard score with the draw strings bouncing around, their hair,
Speaker 1: flying out on the back of his helmet, stiff arm
Speaker 1: and guys down the sideline again and we talked about
Speaker 1: it all week, guys like you gotta stop Henry and
Speaker 1: can they do it? Well, they proved they could not
Speaker 1: do it again three straight games. So is this um
Speaker 1: is that it's over? Is that over six yards and
Speaker 1: three games? That's that's tough? Um? It's little litterally literally
Speaker 1: unheard of in Jaguar's history. Yeah, I mean you watched
Speaker 1: the tape and I watched it and like schematically like
Speaker 1: what they're doing is sound in my opinion. But when
Speaker 1: guys are in the wrong gap, they're getting reached, they
Speaker 1: don't get off blocks, they're getting pushed around. We have
Speaker 1: defensive lineman getting pushed five six yards down the field.
Speaker 1: Our linebackers are not reacting properly. And then you know,
Speaker 1: what do you expect? That's what's gonna happen, and that's
Speaker 1: just bad football. And then you know the straight arm
Speaker 1: down the field. He's a great player and he is
Speaker 1: one of the best stuff stuff arms in all football.
Speaker 1: And you got one or two choices there. You gotta
Speaker 1: knock that thing down. You gotta chop it and tackle him,
Speaker 1: or you gonna go go low and go out his feet.
Speaker 1: But you can't just run with him and let him
Speaker 1: push you away one or the other, chop it and
Speaker 1: get on him, or go and tackle him low. And
Speaker 1: I would, like I would last year's game would exactly.
Speaker 1: I would recommend tackling low. Then you got a tree
Speaker 1: trunk hitting you in the head. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's part of the deal. Signs another one. Here's another one.
Speaker 1: How about don't let him get going. He's not the runner,
Speaker 1: and he's like for Nett. If he doesn't get going,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get going. He's actually he's much different
Speaker 1: than for Net. But you know what I mean. If
Speaker 1: he starts, he he is really good. He has a
Speaker 1: great jump cut, he's a zone runner. He's an outstanding
Speaker 1: zone scheme runner. Leonard is a very good downhill gap runner.
Speaker 1: So they're different styles. They're both big backs. They have
Speaker 1: that in common. Um. But you know, for he you know,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has one of the greatest best death arms
Speaker 1: in football right now. And when you don't stay in
Speaker 1: your gap and you get pushed around, there's not a
Speaker 1: defense you can design for you. It goes back to
Speaker 1: the personnel. Then, yes, the argument, I don't that's where
Speaker 1: I go. Now, that doesn't excuse the coach of the
Speaker 1: coach's job is not only schematically to set up you know,
Speaker 1: the right scheme is you gotta get your guys to play.
Speaker 1: And now if they just can't do it, then I
Speaker 1: don't know what you do to wondering yards a game
Speaker 1: on the ground. But I I don't see it being
Speaker 1: a schematic issue when I watch, I'm not and I
Speaker 1: mean maybe at times, but if you give up, it
Speaker 1: is hard. And as you said, JP, I love it's
Speaker 1: unheard of. I'd like to know the last time an
Speaker 1: NFL team gave up three straight games. Doesn't It's almost
Speaker 1: impossible to do. And so when that happens, I mean
Speaker 1: it is you have to look at every level. You
Speaker 1: have to look at picking the players. You have to
Speaker 1: look at coaching the players. You have to look at
Speaker 1: the players effort, you know, skill set all of them together.
Speaker 1: When you see something that unheard of, Pete, do you
Speaker 1: remember a time as this happened in the league? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't. And I'm trying to think about this game here,
Speaker 1: who's that fault? Coaches or players here? And what this game?
Speaker 1: I think we've lost Peter. You there, now we've lost Pete.
Speaker 1: We'll get back with Pete in just a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be I'm sure it's happened at some point, Tony. Um.
Speaker 1: But this is a rarity obviously in the NFL. YEA
Speaker 1: the wrong kind of that. It smells terrible. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not where you want to be. Um. Uh Yeah. And
Speaker 1: so what you got when you look at that long play,
Speaker 1: and Doug talked about it, you have the three technique
Speaker 1: going inside, he gets overreached, he's in the wrong gap,
Speaker 1: which messes up everybody else, right, Yeah, and on that
Speaker 1: play with Tavin, but he's not the only offender. Um.
Speaker 1: You have guys getting pushed off the ball. You have
Speaker 1: no one getting off blocks, um. And you have poor tackling.
Speaker 1: And so I know Doug talked about last week getting
Speaker 1: back to the fundamentals of tackling and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: for the first half, they did a good job, gave
Speaker 1: up seven points, but they were I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: but it looked physically overmatched. Yeah, they just got overmatched.
Speaker 1: They just got blown off the ball. I got blocked.
Speaker 1: You gotta get off the ball. You gotta stay in
Speaker 1: your feet, you gotta run, you gotta tackles, gotta beat guys.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. This is a game
Speaker 1: about beating the guy in front of you, is it.
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you. Is it more of the
Speaker 1: that those guys are just better or is it a bet?
Speaker 1: Or is it an effort? They're better? They're better. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not a lack of effort. At times, it probably is,
Speaker 1: you know, you see times, but not that's not the
Speaker 1: core problem. I don't think you have a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys out there jaking it, laying down their line was
Speaker 1: just better. They're better than the guys up front for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They're better end of the day. Um, And that's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say for me because you know it's hard.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard. Guys don't like hearing that, especially
Speaker 1: when you're a player. But the only way you change
Speaker 1: that you gotta do something about it. They got beat,
Speaker 1: they got blocked. There's no coaching that is gonna like
Speaker 1: magically fixed that. Like there's not a scheme that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden like everything's fixed. When guys are getting
Speaker 1: pushed off the ball and running through you and and
Speaker 1: running wide open and we even't got to that. The
Speaker 1: guys running wide open in the second I mean just
Speaker 1: wide open yep, and so like, you gotta do a
Speaker 1: better job. They were so amped up to try to
Speaker 1: stop to run early in the game. The first player
Speaker 1: of the game, here comes a bootleg with a quarterback
Speaker 1: for twenty yards. Yeah, there's some exotic things on offense
Speaker 1: yesterday's Surprisingly, it wasn't that exotic. It's a basic bootleg.
Speaker 1: But we were so concerned about running, you know, tackling
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. We forgot that. There's actually you gotta do
Speaker 1: your job and stay in your gap in and and
Speaker 1: follow your keys. And we didn't do a good job
Speaker 1: of that that early. But you know, we got some
Speaker 1: stops we got off the field. We gotta turnover. You know,
Speaker 1: we made some things happen, but we couldn't hold up.
Speaker 1: We just, uh, there's no other way to say it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like football, like everyone wants these
Speaker 1: like simple answers, and there the simple answers is win. Like,
Speaker 1: here's how you win football games. You have big, strong,
Speaker 1: physical guys that control the line of scrimmage on both sides.
Speaker 1: You want to look good at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: You want you want to look at the teams who win,
Speaker 1: they consistently win the line of scrimmage because they have big, nasty,
Speaker 1: physical human beings. Yeah, and then you have a quarterback
Speaker 1: that can pull the trigger and make things happen, and
Speaker 1: you have a pretty good chance to win. Now does
Speaker 1: I'm not discounting any other position. Obviously, having a great
Speaker 1: corner changes how you play defense. And you know, right,
Speaker 1: but it's a big man's game. That's where football was designed.
Speaker 1: We played, as Tom Coughlin told us in his introductory
Speaker 1: press conference, by the way, and we are overmatched right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how to say it. When
Speaker 1: you give a three stay games a two hundred yards,
Speaker 1: You're getting blocked, You're going the wrong in the wrong gaps.
Speaker 1: You're not flowing to the ball, you're not getting off tackles,
Speaker 1: you're not reacting, you're not coming up being physical. It's
Speaker 1: a problem. Let's come back, we'll discuss the offense. We'll
Speaker 1: delive a little more into Nick Fole's day. This isn't
Speaker 1: the most positive show we've had. I don't know, We're
Speaker 1: we're trending downwards. I don't know where else, and I
Speaker 1: don't like we're spitting the truth. YEA, sometimes going on
Speaker 1: hurs Man. Sometimes I think I'd be better just not to.
Speaker 1: But that's where we are. That's where we are the
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Speaker 1: about the game. This is where characters built within an
Speaker 1: organization and a team. I mean so, like I said
Speaker 1: that last week, you either give up or you keep
Speaker 1: moving and you keep going forward against You know, everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be negative, everyone's gonna ask all these questions because
Speaker 1: that's y'all's job. I get it. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and be upset about it. But then the day
Speaker 1: of my job is to continue to keep a positive
Speaker 1: attitude within the locker room and continue to leave these
Speaker 1: guys and I'm not the only one leading. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: build character, and that's what we're doing right now. It's
Speaker 1: not fun. It's not fun to go out there and
Speaker 1: get beat like that. Nick Foles, Jaguar's quarterback yesterday in
Speaker 1: Nashville after the forty who twenty lost to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our g PI, Shadrick, Tony Vaselli.
Speaker 1: We're out to Pete Prisco. He'll be back with us
Speaker 1: uh as soon as we can get him and the Jags.
Speaker 1: We touched on the offense earlier, right and Nick Foles
Speaker 1: his days the last two times out, so before we
Speaker 1: get that I know the a lot of fans, or
Speaker 1: at least through Twitter, you know, have not been overly
Speaker 1: excited about Nick foles comments after the game the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. Yes, man, We'll just we just heard the
Speaker 1: ones there, and I know Pete kind of said something.
Speaker 1: Pete said something earlier that he thinks the comments are
Speaker 1: ridiculous they need to change. I don't. I mean, does
Speaker 1: it matter, Like I don't like what did he say there?
Speaker 1: That is so wrong? And like, I know what the
Speaker 1: fans want. They wanted to pound the fist and say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like they suck and suck and like everyone.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's like, it's what he said is
Speaker 1: innocuous to me. Well, I think the fans have a
Speaker 1: broader scope of building character twelve years of building. I
Speaker 1: get that. But that's not his problem. He hasn't been here, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what they get that. I'm the
Speaker 1: most part with their feeling. I'm not mad about the
Speaker 1: fans being frustrated, you know, I mean every right to
Speaker 1: be frustrated. Pete. Are you back with us now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm here. You know what, I tend to agree with
Speaker 1: the fans on that one. Nobody wants to hear that.
Speaker 1: Crack okay, I mean maybe, I mean they just don't.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hear that at this what are you
Speaker 1: building to? You know, you got to go through the
Speaker 1: bad time to get the good time. They don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. What do they want to hear? What
Speaker 1: would you like Nick Foles saying that's what they get
Speaker 1: come up with book. We're not good enough right now.
Speaker 1: We're working to get better. It's not about building a culture.
Speaker 1: And and then that's that's just that's coach speak. That's garbage,
Speaker 1: you know that. Okay. I mean I'm not gonna argue.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I just that's who Nick Like,
Speaker 1: that's who Nick is. That that's authentic Nick Foles. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's who you're gonna get like that's his mindset. The
Speaker 1: fans want to see somebody with a little more fire
Speaker 1: in the beildy, Like you want to get up there
Speaker 1: and like say, like just rip everybody and rip the
Speaker 1: offensive line and the receivers and the defense. What do
Speaker 1: you want to do then, Pete, just get don't start
Speaker 1: talking about culture and building something. Time to get to
Speaker 1: the good time. So nobody wants to hear that he
Speaker 1: was asked the question. So you just rather when they
Speaker 1: ask the question, say no, no comment. What was the
Speaker 1: exact question? I don't remember, standp. I'll get to that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell him that you should. You should set
Speaker 1: up a service. You can just tell people what to
Speaker 1: say based on the questions are asked. You what. That's
Speaker 1: not a bad idea of you should be a consultant.
Speaker 1: You should be an answer question consultant. Pete Prisco. If
Speaker 1: you want to know what to say when you're asked
Speaker 1: a question, Pete will tell you just don't give him
Speaker 1: the everything's rosy scenario and we're building something in this.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear everything's rosy. He said, it's hard right now,
Speaker 1: we're not good enough. We need to get better. Like
Speaker 1: what does he want? Like that's what he said. Apparently
Speaker 1: the question there's not a full question. The official transcript
Speaker 1: is basically on missing a couple of big plays to
Speaker 1: his wide receivers early in the game, and it turned
Speaker 1: into a long answer building character. What does that mean? Well,
Speaker 1: I think he's saying they need to be better and
Speaker 1: it's a process. And like you either when it's going
Speaker 1: tough and it's going the wrong way. You can sit
Speaker 1: there and be negative and complain and everything else nothing's
Speaker 1: gonna change by doing that. Or you can go back
Speaker 1: to work and be positive and keep on trying to
Speaker 1: get better. That's why I think he's saying, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what's wrong with that. Now, if you just
Speaker 1: want the short answer, you missed a couple of receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we missed, and we gotta make the place like that's it.
Speaker 1: Then you guys will complain or he doesn't say enough.
Speaker 1: And that's what he said in the first sentence of
Speaker 1: the answer. It's part of the game sometimes where guys
Speaker 1: making great, great catcher made and sometimes they're not. That's
Speaker 1: why you keep firing away, keep trusting your guys. And
Speaker 1: then they went on from there about still fighting and
Speaker 1: doing all that. You understand we're a fan. Oh goshult
Speaker 1: crap and they don't buy it. You know what a
Speaker 1: good culture is. I don't blame the fans for being frustrated.
Speaker 1: I don't at all. I never have if there's not
Speaker 1: been I mean, I've been a pretty big advocate for
Speaker 1: the fans. Like I get it, I don't like I
Speaker 1: don't blame them for being frustrated. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: guys this, I think I pretty frustrated this. I think
Speaker 1: everybody is right now. I'm Doug Marone today in his
Speaker 1: conference call, reiterated that Nick Foles he fields, gives the
Speaker 1: best Jaguars the best chance to win. Now, do you
Speaker 1: guys agree with that? Pete? Um, that's to be determined.
Speaker 1: But you paid him that money, you might, like Tony said,
Speaker 1: you might as well find out the next five games
Speaker 1: what you got. What's the matter now? I mean the
Speaker 1: ship is less support. You're standing on the dock looking
Speaker 1: to get on, and all you could do is fall
Speaker 1: in the order. That's about it. Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: think it doesn't matter for the players. It matters for
Speaker 1: the coaching staff because if and I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, I don't think it's gonna happen. Actually,
Speaker 1: Um that if they could go win four or five games,
Speaker 1: you get to eight and eight or nine seven, they
Speaker 1: have a chance to see I'm just Pete. That's how
Speaker 1: used to think of. You're a coach though, right, But okay, Tony,
Speaker 1: if they go seven and nine, I can say seven
Speaker 1: and nine, I said, eight and eight or nine and
Speaker 1: seven so you win four or five four, four or five.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I don't think they're going
Speaker 1: to Pete. I'm just telling you the mindset of a
Speaker 1: coach or a player, that's how you have to think.
Speaker 1: I mean you had like otherwise. If that's not how
Speaker 1: you think, what are you doing at that point? Okay?
Speaker 1: But does he give him the best shot to win? Um?
Speaker 1: That's I thought for sure. I was a for sure yes.
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, I was a yes. Uh. Last week
Speaker 1: I'm like down, like yes, I'm like on the fence.
Speaker 1: I still would play him. I still start him because
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've invested, and I want to
Speaker 1: find out what I have going because I have a
Speaker 1: good idea what Mintshew is and what he can be.
Speaker 1: So I'm at least the next couple of weeks stick
Speaker 1: with Foals. Can they score some early points though? No,
Speaker 1: Well we haven't done that all year, have we? Certainly
Speaker 1: not recently? It's been a long time. That would help
Speaker 1: matters obviously. Well, I mean we scored three this week,
Speaker 1: we scored seven last week, and we scored three the
Speaker 1: week before. So in three first half we've scored thirteen points. Pete,
Speaker 1: stop hitting your he's dialing out, he's dialing up a pizza. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Three points last week, seven points in the first half
Speaker 1: at and the three points in London against Houston. That's
Speaker 1: thirteen points in three games. Yes it is. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the first talk about them the defense. But both
Speaker 1: games it was they were in the games at halftime,
Speaker 1: but they were in the game. No, it's this is
Speaker 1: not just a defensive problem. The defense is not very good.
Speaker 1: They can't stop the run. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: The offense is not very good. They don't score points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just the question is legitimate. When
Speaker 1: the fans say should they go back to Minsho, that's
Speaker 1: a legitimate question. I think it's a fair question. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with it. Doug made the and and
Speaker 1: fans getting upset about the earing culture in the locker
Speaker 1: room and building to something. You have a right to
Speaker 1: get there upset with that too, because look, unlike Nick
Speaker 1: Foles have just got here, They've been here. The fans
Speaker 1: have every right to be upset. I'm not saying they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is what else do you want them
Speaker 1: to say? This is who Nick Foles is, and he
Speaker 1: didn't see anything wrong. He just said, like the stinks
Speaker 1: right now, we're not very good. We have to get better.
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to be positive and this is how you
Speaker 1: build the locker room. That's all he said. But then
Speaker 1: he faced something similar last week too. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: talking about culture last week. This this week he was character. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: we got the two seeds. There has to be the
Speaker 1: third seed. Every good speech has three seeds. Were three points.
Speaker 1: We got a culture, character, What's what's the one? I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that. How about confidence?
Speaker 1: You know, if you have character and you build a culture,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a confident locker room. There's keep talking
Speaker 1: about character, you keep talking about culture, and you don't
Speaker 1: get better, and you and your talent isn't any good?
Speaker 1: You be clappy? How about that? That could be a
Speaker 1: c I like confident better. I will say there was
Speaker 1: more balance in the offense yesterday. I think I think
Speaker 1: d Philippo got the message from the head coach to
Speaker 1: run the ball seven Russians or three of those from foals,
Speaker 1: but twenty four by four nets for ninety seven yards,
Speaker 1: and that's being down almost the entire second half. I
Speaker 1: mean I think he had as many carries in the
Speaker 1: Indie game, like by like the middle of the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Um and I thought Letter four Nett really ran hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he was physical, made some great
Speaker 1: catches out of the backfield. I got nothing but respect
Speaker 1: to how Leonard Fournette played that football game. And you
Speaker 1: know what, he's done a pretty good job this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't can't falt them. He's been one
Speaker 1: of the pleasant surprises of this year. I mean, but
Speaker 1: but Pete, this is how dare I say, inept the
Speaker 1: offense has been. We now have three rushing touchdowns on
Speaker 1: the year, and two of them came pretty much in
Speaker 1: garbage time. It was garbage time, not pretty much. It
Speaker 1: was the Titans. I mean, that is bad. No matter
Speaker 1: what you said on the game broadcast, it was over.
Speaker 1: What do you mean. We had three possessions, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three two point conversions, a couple of onside kicks. We
Speaker 1: were right back in it over. Yeah, you got excited,
Speaker 1: and you got a little excited on the broadcast for
Speaker 1: the fumble. Well, yeah, well that was that was We
Speaker 1: were still in at that point. I think it was
Speaker 1: that was It was still like twenty it was three.
Speaker 1: I thought the fumble came when it made it thirty five,
Speaker 1: and then they went down and made I don't remember why.
Speaker 1: Why was Richardson a healthy scratch Because they wanted to
Speaker 1: start Dante Vius Russell to get bigger people on the
Speaker 1: field to stop the run. They didn't want to start him.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to have him at me, not start.
Speaker 1: They want him active so he could be in the rotation.
Speaker 1: Confirmed that again. Here's another question. I had Miles Jacket
Speaker 1: hurt for bench hurt hurt his knee, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know how bad. There was no update from that. There
Speaker 1: was no update he had. You could tell he was
Speaker 1: visibly limping, went to the sideline, came out with a sleeve.
Speaker 1: Rick Blue reported from the sideline had a sleeve put
Speaker 1: on his knee or something, and you could tell that
Speaker 1: he was favoring his right knee. Now what the injury is,
Speaker 1: we were not told. There was no official announcement, but
Speaker 1: when the game it was clearly over, he was taken
Speaker 1: out and uh Donald Payne came in. But by the way,
Speaker 1: a couple of things from yesterday. They found out that
Speaker 1: Andrew wind guarded a special teams player only Thanks, what's next?
Speaker 1: What's the next thing? What else did you stay your captain?
Speaker 1: Captain obvious? Is that captain obvious? Well, you have to
Speaker 1: have a backup safety before the field play, can't you? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna make the judgment of the kid
Speaker 1: because of one game he was dreadful. What was the next?
Speaker 1: Hold on? You're saying he was the only bad guy
Speaker 1: who had no no. If that's the case, then there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you can say that about.
Speaker 1: Here's a question I wanted to ask to say that
Speaker 1: he thought he had somebody on help and nobody was
Speaker 1: there after the game, kind of called somebody out. Who'd
Speaker 1: be talking about? I don't know, but there the quote
Speaker 1: he had alluded to, um miscommunication, miss a line, guys
Speaker 1: missed the line. Before we go to break on if
Speaker 1: the team feels prepared entering games at this point in
Speaker 1: the season, A J boy said this in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I felt prepared. It just frustrates me when you see
Speaker 1: something in practice, you know somebody is going to be there,
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't happen in a game. Yeah, then
Speaker 1: he moves on to other things. Yes, so let's come back.
Speaker 1: It sounds like to take. So who do you think
Speaker 1: it was? I don't know. It's hard to tell. Like
Speaker 1: a couple of times I thought just a j just
Speaker 1: got beat by Brown. Let's come back. We'll delve into that.
Speaker 1: We'll look at the remaining schedule for the Jaguars as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see if you want to lock some games. I said,
Speaker 1: I've done day. I can't either, and I don't like
Speaker 1: people have got on me and they deservedly sell they
Speaker 1: should um. I said it last week. I'll say the
Speaker 1: same thing. If they continue to play defense and play
Speaker 1: offense both the way they are right now, they won't
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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli, Pete Frisco. Tony's flipping through his phone between
Speaker 1: the breaks we got. He's just frustrated tonight because just
Speaker 1: kind of how it is. It's like the whole building today,
Speaker 1: a lot of the building today losing steaks. It's not
Speaker 1: good enough. I mean that, I mean the bottom line,
Speaker 1: it is not good enough. So you gotta win football games.
Speaker 1: Let's get on your locks. The goal is not even
Speaker 1: just they're not even competing in these forget about competing.
Speaker 1: The goal is to win and have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: win the FC South every year. To get into the tournament.
Speaker 1: You get in the tournament, you're gonna win. You have
Speaker 1: chances to win the party trophies. Get enough of those chances,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win your your lock are You're taking a
Speaker 1: lot of beat beating around town for lock in the
Speaker 1: seventh straight. I'm taking beatings for everything. I mean I
Speaker 1: get accused of. I mean, name it, I get blamed
Speaker 1: for it. I saw some stuff coming at you on
Speaker 1: Twitter today. Yeah, keep ringing it please, I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna have a great segment when you
Speaker 1: get to those questions because because they came at you today.
Speaker 1: I love name calling. That's the maturity levels very high.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's terrible on Twitter. But I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you understand, and I know you do because you've been
Speaker 1: around there as long as long as the franchise has
Speaker 1: been there. It's frustrating for the fans. They're frustrated. They
Speaker 1: should be. I mean, I'm frustrated. I'm like, do you
Speaker 1: not like I don't. I have not talked to one
Speaker 1: person in this organization that is that is happy. No,
Speaker 1: everyone's frustrated, like like the fans don't have a like
Speaker 1: a market, have not cornered the market, and frustration of losing,
Speaker 1: like I think everyone is frustrated in this organization, and
Speaker 1: the fans every right to be frustrated. But they never
Speaker 1: got to finish my assets. We had, we listed, you listed,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think we got to the end right,
Speaker 1: we didn't the right the right tackles an asset. Very
Speaker 1: good player, Okay, Dan Tyler is an asset. I cameras.
Speaker 1: I think I think Cam Robinson. I mean you look
Speaker 1: at left tackle. I mean he's, you know, a good
Speaker 1: young player. Um, he's improved this year. Is your long
Speaker 1: term left tackle? I think he has an opportunity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's improved. I think WARP has done a very good
Speaker 1: job with him. Um coming off to a c L
Speaker 1: as well, Like yeah, um, I still think lenders you
Speaker 1: know in the you know, top half of centers in
Speaker 1: this league. I mean Pete, you watch offensive lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's a solid player. He's probably not I mean again,
Speaker 1: and I go back to the contract's not worth what
Speaker 1: he's making. But he's a solid player. But he's on
Speaker 1: your team now. But I'm saying, you gotta when you're
Speaker 1: looking at assets and liabilities, you gotta look at what
Speaker 1: they're making, and you have to also have to find
Speaker 1: make sure you can replace him with an equal or
Speaker 1: better player, or cheaper option is just as good. Did
Speaker 1: I not just say that it does equal? Not just
Speaker 1: as good? Are you? If he equal and he's cheaper,
Speaker 1: he's better? Are you that dense? So if he's equal
Speaker 1: and he's cheaper, he's better. What did you do this weekend? Like?
Speaker 1: Do I mean, do you have a long night? If
Speaker 1: we're equal player and he's cheaper, it's probably better option
Speaker 1: for Let me repeat what I said. You don't get
Speaker 1: a rid of anybody unless you can find someone equal
Speaker 1: or better. You want to say it's slower so you
Speaker 1: can understand it because you just repeated what exactly what
Speaker 1: I said. Okay, we're going through the assets, and you're
Speaker 1: dancing around the question. I'm not the answering to the question.
Speaker 1: I just answered it. How many legitimate assets is somebody
Speaker 1: who takes over this team have on this roster? Eight?
Speaker 1: A right logan cook, punter is an asset? Josh, please please,
Speaker 1: when you start talking about special teams players being an assets,
Speaker 1: you're reaching Okay out there, special teams players being assets.
Speaker 1: That means we have to go to break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back with a second an hour blocking seven straight
Speaker 1: victories right there. I was just trying to wow. I
Speaker 1: was trying to find more than eight. Hey could be
Speaker 1: a pro bowler. I'll say this. I'll give you one
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Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell is playing good football. He's in the top table.
Speaker 1: He I bet you if you judge, I bet she's
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Speaker 1: with all those assets in five years, there's more assets.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you can go through like Pete,
Speaker 1: let's do the same thing. Like the Houston Texans. I
Speaker 1: mean you can do like, well, they got the quarterback assets,
Speaker 1: so that kind of solves about ten of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: but my point is you can go through every team
Speaker 1: like the way you were describing an asset like it's
Speaker 1: very narrow, is my point. But you can't really count
Speaker 1: and Gogway has an asset because you don't want what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with you don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do with him. Well, he's still an asset. He's on
Speaker 1: your roster. Pete, you can I AM a mega contract
Speaker 1: to keep him and make him keep continue to being
Speaker 1: an asset. By the way, you don't have to sign
Speaker 1: as a franchise jack and asset. Um. He has been
Speaker 1: the way he's playing as of late. No, No, he
Speaker 1: has not been, by the way Pro Football Focus has.
Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell is the eighteenth graded gardener league, which isn't bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's only sixty four of them, and he played
Speaker 1: the best they had him. Raided is the best offensive line.
Speaker 1: Andrew nor Well has played good football this year. I
Speaker 1: don't care what anyone says. He had an awful play,
Speaker 1: and awful play like that. Everyone wants to hang their
Speaker 1: hat on in Carolina, and he makes a bowload of money,
Speaker 1: so they always pick him on it. Right, He's playing
Speaker 1: good football. Play good football again this I thought he
Speaker 1: played well on the tape. Andrew do Well is a
Speaker 1: good football player. I don't care what anyone says. Let's
Speaker 1: touch on the hot topics today. Of course. The run
Speaker 1: defense horrible again. Two hundred nineteen yards. That's six nine
Speaker 1: nine yards allowed on the ground over the last three games,
Speaker 1: all division games, all twenty point losses or more if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken too. The only it was actually two
Speaker 1: twenty two before they took so they really have given
Speaker 1: up seven two yards. Yeah, that's right, of course, last demoralizing.
Speaker 1: Giving up a hundred and fifty yards in a game
Speaker 1: is demoralizing. Where do we rush? Where do we rank
Speaker 1: in the NFL now? On rush defense twenty nine and
Speaker 1: they're last in the league in the yards per carry.
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, like Ronald Jones has done very
Speaker 1: little for the Bucks. He's got to be smiling all
Speaker 1: week long this week. Yeah, I mean, if you don't
Speaker 1: know his name, you you might at this rate, you
Speaker 1: might know it by Sunday evening. And yeah, and the
Speaker 1: Bucks don't give him enough carey where they do. Well,
Speaker 1: the good news is, you know, Bruce arians loves throwing
Speaker 1: it around the yard. Jamis will give you a couple.
Speaker 1: And Jamis is gonna throw you a couple. Now. Whether
Speaker 1: we catch or not, I'm not sure, but they're coming.
Speaker 1: They a tody. The Bucks haven't made a decision on
Speaker 1: Jamis yet, but as he gets ready to come to town,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you right now, who's a better quarterback,
Speaker 1: Jamis or Nick Foles? Nick Foles stop it. He doesn't
Speaker 1: turn it over, Pete. That you cannot do that in
Speaker 1: that position, doesn't score points either, Yeah, Jamie, look at
Speaker 1: the points the Bucks have scored this year. Look at
Speaker 1: the turnovers, Pete. You don't win. Okay. What's what's the
Speaker 1: Bucks record? Well, I mean the defense. You talk about
Speaker 1: a bad defense, Well, look at our defense. Where's ring Pete?
Speaker 1: What's their record? Okay? But at least they score what's
Speaker 1: their record? They're not good? What is it? They score points?
Speaker 1: What is what are they? And there four and seven
Speaker 1: the exact same things. The Jaguars, well, they score points
Speaker 1: though they're competitive and gay and he knows it to
Speaker 1: the wrong team and they lose. They're competitive because he
Speaker 1: could throw it around the yard. They lost to Seattle
Speaker 1: in overtime forty thirty four. Question, yeah, they lost to
Speaker 1: the Titans. Also the Panthers thirty on the Saints and lost.
Speaker 1: Is there a tight on the tight end on this
Speaker 1: roster as good as oj Howard? He doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I was asking the question, is there what does he
Speaker 1: do for them? He does nothing. Is there a receiver
Speaker 1: as good as Mike Evans, No, there's not a receiver
Speaker 1: as good as Chris Godwin either. Shark isn't as good
Speaker 1: as Godwin? No he is not. Okay, does that help?
Speaker 1: But their defense is pathetic and they score points. Yes,
Speaker 1: he turns it over, but they score points. They this
Speaker 1: team in two games when Nick Foles has not scored
Speaker 1: any points. Tony, is our defens good? No? Okay? Then
Speaker 1: why do you keep on bringing up the Bucks? The
Speaker 1: problem that my point is because the point is their
Speaker 1: defense thinks, just like Jacksonville's defense thinks. And the point
Speaker 1: is that they're doing. They both have the point and
Speaker 1: they both have the same record. They score points, but
Speaker 1: they turn it over. At least they can score points. Great, congratulations,
Speaker 1: score all the points you want and have the same
Speaker 1: losing record because you turn it over. There have they
Speaker 1: been more competitive in games? Rule number one? Rule number one,
Speaker 1: don't turn it over? Rule number one score touchdowns? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Pete on this, both four and seven.
Speaker 1: What does it matter you lose games? Would folds? And
Speaker 1: I said, Folds right now? You know what if we
Speaker 1: had that lie detector hooked up to your body right now,
Speaker 1: it will be zapping all over the not true. Will
Speaker 1: you take twenty eight points with two interceptions right now? Points? Two? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Old day long you would how many touchdowns? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna throw four like he did yesterday? Through three? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But he through three picks? Didn't he to two picks?
Speaker 1: Would you take twenty eight points? Four touchdowns through the
Speaker 1: air and two interceptions from a Jaguars quarterback? Where where
Speaker 1: are the touch that? World doesn't matter? Where looking at
Speaker 1: the box score at the end of the day, where
Speaker 1: the interceptions thrown, because that matters, because let me give up,
Speaker 1: I forget about how many don't forget JP, you can't
Speaker 1: how many touchdown passes did Nick fole story yesterday? That
Speaker 1: none done? That's kind of my point. Pete, you're JP.
Speaker 1: We got him back into the corner and we're just
Speaker 1: I'm right crossing him and you're left right, we're just
Speaker 1: over the top, bang batty against the ropes. He's going
Speaker 1: down like Deonte Wilder. It's gonna be a knockout here soon. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can tell you is you can't win games in
Speaker 1: this league turning it over? Look? Should you? Is it
Speaker 1: better to not turn it? Were? Absolutely? Is it better
Speaker 1: to score twenty eight points than score the craft that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and was scoring? You bet? How many? Just
Speaker 1: how many ten to seven games you're gonna win? As
Speaker 1: many games you're gonna win throwing two or three picks
Speaker 1: every game like Jamis does? How many picks does he
Speaker 1: have on the ear? And Pete here anything? This is
Speaker 1: why it's a dumb conversation. The conversation is idiotic because
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, you can't win
Speaker 1: with either if you don't score points and if you
Speaker 1: turn it over, it doesn't matter. And so you're arguing
Speaker 1: for a guy who is a terrible win loss record
Speaker 1: and throws it to the wrong guy and more than
Speaker 1: the only reason there's not ten more picks because defensive
Speaker 1: guys can't catch Jamis Winston two touchdown passes interception. How mean,
Speaker 1: come on, Pete, are you kidding me? Twenty yards? Pete?
Speaker 1: I don't care. In a league where it is no
Speaker 1: one throws twenty picks anymore, nobody. He's also been sacked
Speaker 1: thirty six times. I mean, come on, Pete, you're wrong here,
Speaker 1: You're wrong. No. I look, he eight I get picked
Speaker 1: off a ton, and that's a bad thing for him.
Speaker 1: He's still he still scores points. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care. He throws picks. And the only reason you
Speaker 1: have thirty five picks because defensive guys can't catch. I've
Speaker 1: done his games. Like like, you're arguing for a guy
Speaker 1: to be your starting quarterback that throws twenty picks in
Speaker 1: today's NFL, which is unheard of, arguing for him to
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback anywhere. I'm just proving a point
Speaker 1: that he isn't any worse than the quarterback this he's
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is No, he's not. I know you know you're wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, no, you're wrong. You can't win turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. You can't. Who's who scored a ton of
Speaker 1: points in this league so far this year? The Bucks?
Speaker 1: And what's the record of the Bucks? The defense is pathetic?
Speaker 1: And yeah, and the Jaguars Bears? Are you you're scoring points?
Speaker 1: You're honestly talking in circles now. It doesn't matter, Pete,
Speaker 1: but both four and seven. By the way, the Winston
Speaker 1: leads the league and picks he leads. He leads every
Speaker 1: league like college XFL, UFL, a FL, CFL, EVERYFL. He
Speaker 1: leads to the wrong guy every times. Where do they
Speaker 1: get scoring? Jp? Pete? Who cares or no? For the gate?
Speaker 1: The objects of the game is to win. How many points? Know?
Speaker 1: The object is to win? How many points in the
Speaker 1: Patriots score? Yesterday? The defense hold on, I'm asking a question.
Speaker 1: How many points in the Patriots score? How many touchdowns?
Speaker 1: The top Rady throw one? No, they scored. They blocked
Speaker 1: the punt the score. Oh he didn't. He threw a
Speaker 1: touchdout past and to kill Harry. Okay, so oh, you're right,
Speaker 1: that's right after the pun buck punt, So he threw one.
Speaker 1: How many yards he throw for Pete? How many? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How many? Where? Where is he ranking total touchdowns? This year?
Speaker 1: He's playing with a general guess what? And he doesn't
Speaker 1: turn it over, so he doesn't put his defensive bad
Speaker 1: positions and they win by the way ten football games.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is third in the league and scoring yeah great,
Speaker 1: and they stink the defensive steaks. Baltimore and San Franz
Speaker 1: scores more than Tampa. Guys there four and seven because
Speaker 1: the quarterback turns the ball over. That's why they can't
Speaker 1: win four and seven. Because he turns the ball over, yes,
Speaker 1: kind of four and seven because the defense is awful.
Speaker 1: Then you can have him Pete. Build your team around that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't want to build my team
Speaker 1: around him. I'm just saying I think he's just every bit,
Speaker 1: if not better than fools. So you said you'd rather,
Speaker 1: I'll take folds because I can win with a quarterback
Speaker 1: who throws one touchdown and no interceptions. I can't win
Speaker 1: with the guy who throws two, three, four or five
Speaker 1: interceptions a game. Put the poll out there, Twitter, what
Speaker 1: do you guys think, come at the Celly Winston, take
Speaker 1: you and let me know. The last time a fan
Speaker 1: pole about what quarterback to pick is is like how
Speaker 1: you're supposed to build a team. I mean, honestly, Pete,
Speaker 1: that's why you know what, that's why you work in
Speaker 1: the media, and that's all you should do, because you
Speaker 1: honestly should do nothing but right for a website, and
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Winst is a lot cheaper, No
Speaker 1: he's not. He's making nineteen twenty million this year, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that big hook of guaranteed money that
Speaker 1: somebody else has got next year. It goes back to
Speaker 1: the money. Don't don't be throwing that media argument. You're
Speaker 1: part of the media. To no, I am, But like
Speaker 1: I can do other things, Pete couldn't like what. You're
Speaker 1: a broken down old man like I am. Now what
Speaker 1: are you talking? I got other business interests. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: once upon a time you were actually a football player
Speaker 1: and a damn good one. But now you're a broken
Speaker 1: down old man in the media. Just like we're different,
Speaker 1: we're on the same team. Tone no, no, I listen, listen.
Speaker 1: You know what I live by your motto when it
Speaker 1: comes to the media, there might be no I in team,
Speaker 1: but there's an M and E me. I'm the same way.
Speaker 1: I don't follow the masses in the media, do im?
Speaker 1: You sometimes do? You're Olliver Jams, He's the great you
Speaker 1: think you think? Do you think I'm the guy that
Speaker 1: sits there? And let these Hall of Fame boaters tell
Speaker 1: me that you were blocking it for a quarterback? Now
Speaker 1: you love him again. That's when we're on the same team, Pete.
Speaker 1: Now we're on the same team that there's nothing, by
Speaker 1: the way, there's nothing more infuriating to me than when
Speaker 1: I hear some buffoon on that whole fame and he
Speaker 1: who says that, who cares? I'm already I'm already mad enough.
Speaker 1: Let's not go down that path. Are we preparing you
Speaker 1: for the But no, you're getting in this year, So
Speaker 1: let's let everybody celebrate, celebrate. Well, let's let's just focus
Speaker 1: on the Jags right now. Is that well, it's just
Speaker 1: not gonna be the celebration Tony thought it was when
Speaker 1: he thought the Jaguars we're gonna be in Miami two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, planning dinner, right, We're gonna go out of
Speaker 1: the South Beach. Remember that runway. Whatever those still on
Speaker 1: the reservation, we go, we can go. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: think the team will be there. Okay, I think I
Speaker 1: think we meet you and Pete. You know you don't
Speaker 1: think they get locked the next five, Tony Pete. As
Speaker 1: I said before, I'm done in the locked business. The
Speaker 1: locks are in the trash and in all serious if
Speaker 1: they don't, if they play the way they've been playing,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win any games. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: You'd be more apt to lock them not winning another
Speaker 1: game than you would be them winning the next five.
Speaker 1: Based on what I've seen. Yes, yeah, me too. Let's
Speaker 1: come back. Hey, guess what you're depressed? Now? Wait till
Speaker 1: social media questions? There's nothing, there's nothing that I have
Speaker 1: already see. You're on fire on Twitter today. Told me,
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Speaker 1: I mean, uh, tough loss of day. I mean you
Speaker 1: can't rememberly put it in words. I mean a couple
Speaker 1: of a police be needed. We didn't make on both
Speaker 1: sides of the football. Well, I got, like I told
Speaker 1: the guys, Uh, this is a step of st fill
Speaker 1: out of us. You know what I mean. Uh, you
Speaker 1: work a glass off going out of practice. Some ma
Speaker 1: entis season and when we didn't get the results too
Speaker 1: if he wanted and then we need it, you know.
Speaker 1: But you know you get that. My spirit is kind
Speaker 1: of high. And I mean it's not about touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: like none of that. But I think, uh I talk
Speaker 1: I had last week my dad, you know, because I
Speaker 1: kind of player perspective, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: always could be, always could be worse. What it for
Speaker 1: that in the locker room after the laws in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Great beer to one of the best beards. No, that's positive.
Speaker 1: It's a great beer. But he played well. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, He might he might actually be on his
Speaker 1: way to the Pro Bowl. He's gonna have a chance
Speaker 1: for sure. Sure, how many yards is herever. Now, uh,
Speaker 1: just under a thousand. I think like he's like fifty
Speaker 1: yards under a thousand nine yards, So you know, if
Speaker 1: he scores more touchdowns and I think he's an automatic.
Speaker 1: Well look at this though, I mean, he has four
Speaker 1: point six yards to carry. He already has fifty six
Speaker 1: receptions in the year, so he's gonna he's gonna end
Speaker 1: up with over seventy receptions um and probably about yards.
Speaker 1: That's a good year. Yeah, six in the league in
Speaker 1: rushing yardage, third in the league in scrimmage yards. By
Speaker 1: the way, well where's he ranking the a f C
Speaker 1: in rushing yards. That's how you have to do it.
Speaker 1: Four fourth in the f C and rushing yard So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing He's having a very good Guys ahead of
Speaker 1: him in rushing yards are Nick Chubb, Derrick Henry, Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs a good player and by the way, good players
Speaker 1: playing on playoff contenders, So they're gonna get more play
Speaker 1: down the run. And Jacobs might not because he's a rookie,
Speaker 1: but Henry will for sure. So well, Chubb's not really
Speaker 1: a playoff contender. Well, they're five, and they're five and six,
Speaker 1: and they've got a favorable schedule right coming up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very they have the easiest schedule in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: Chubb's got seven touchdowns, Henry has ten and Jacobs has seven.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is probably the best back I've seen this
Speaker 1: year pure um Christian McCaffrey. Nick Chubb is the best
Speaker 1: pure running back. Christi McCaffrey is the best offensive non
Speaker 1: quarterback player because of what he can do out of
Speaker 1: the backfield catching the ball. Nick Jobs is unreal. Let's
Speaker 1: get to social questions. Your favorite Tony certainly pizza, good stuff,
Speaker 1: good stuff. Let's start here with at no toes down.
Speaker 1: Can we change the name of this show to Jaguar's
Speaker 1: Crappy Hour? What about Jaguar's Slappy Hour? Either way, this
Speaker 1: team is brutal well like what is not bad? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure why we are getting lumped in with crappy
Speaker 1: Slappy Hour, But listen, if I had to choose between
Speaker 1: crappy or slappy, I'd have to go with crappy Hour
Speaker 1: because if you're a slappy, it's hard to be overcome
Speaker 1: that you just might be a slappy your whole life. Like,
Speaker 1: if you're a crappy, you can get better, Like Joe
Speaker 1: is slappy and so like he's just like he's been
Speaker 1: slappy since I've met him. I'm sorry, but I've never
Speaker 1: heard anybody call me slappy. But I've heard many people
Speaker 1: refer to you as slappy. I haven't. Maybe it must
Speaker 1: be behind my back. No, right to your face, that's
Speaker 1: not true. Crappy, you can get better, So i'd have
Speaker 1: to choose crappy. You have to go with one. Pete, Yeah,
Speaker 1: cradle like crappy. You don't you want to go slappy?
Speaker 1: You are a slap so yeah, crappy means just stink. Well,
Speaker 1: slap means that's just like you are a slap blank. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. They're Neither one of them is
Speaker 1: very good, to be honest. But Crappy, we can get better, Pete,
Speaker 1: we can get the stink off us. I don't think
Speaker 1: us into this category of the team. And that's not
Speaker 1: fair to us. Well, you know what, life's not fair.
Speaker 1: You gotta hey, listen, we're in this together. I'll go
Speaker 1: down with the ship. Let's go. I'm not going down
Speaker 1: with anybody's ship because you're so. I'm getting a life
Speaker 1: raft and I'm getting the hell out of it. Like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: women and children. My ass. I'm going first. That's what
Speaker 1: Pete's going When the Titanic was going down, Pete jumps,
Speaker 1: threw ladies out of the way, babies, everything. That's I'm
Speaker 1: going on that quick, playing quick, playing the dan violent.
Speaker 1: I'm getting on the boat. How about when you're like
Speaker 1: in then exit row of a plane and they go, okay,
Speaker 1: have a problem. You're gonna be the first one open
Speaker 1: the door. You open the door and go right on out,
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. Yeah, No, I'm helping the women
Speaker 1: and child are not first, Pete. That's why you're a slap.
Speaker 1: That's help the women and children. I don't think you
Speaker 1: would actually if I'm being really honest. All right, question,
Speaker 1: next question, let's got next social question number two at
Speaker 1: Duval calling. Should the Jaguars clean house in the front
Speaker 1: office and coaching staff this offseason? With four first round
Speaker 1: picks in the next two years, the timing feels right.
Speaker 1: If so, who would be your pick for the next
Speaker 1: head coach? Pete? Are you going for left witch? A
Speaker 1: lot of questions here, so I know you can answer
Speaker 1: the coach question. I'm gonna give you. I'll give you
Speaker 1: my opinion on the first part. That is the decision
Speaker 1: of Tom Coughlin. So Tom Coughlin has to start that process.
Speaker 1: He's the head of the football ops. All that I mean,
Speaker 1: that's I don't think he's going to be a part
Speaker 1: of it. Well, but he is right now, Pete. So
Speaker 1: the question is today, not tomorrow, not a week from now,
Speaker 1: not five weeks now. The person asks us today, what
Speaker 1: is going to happen? That is Tom Coffin will have
Speaker 1: to make that decision as he evaluates the entire football
Speaker 1: side of the organization is going to make that decision,
Speaker 1: and Tom is gonna be a part of it. Well,
Speaker 1: I know, but that's not Wait wait a second, that
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me, just based on what Shan
Speaker 1: has told us three years ago, based on how the
Speaker 1: rest of the organization works. Shadd hires the head of
Speaker 1: Football ops, vice president football, senior vice president of football.
Speaker 1: He runs football, hired the president, Mark Lamping, he runs
Speaker 1: the Bay decision. They're gonna make a decision to keep
Speaker 1: Tom and get rid of everybody else. Well, that's like
Speaker 1: Tom has to come with the plan and this is
Speaker 1: where it doesn't make the decision. Will make the decision. Well,
Speaker 1: right now, that's not how right now the decision. So
Speaker 1: you're saying he can't change his mind. Oh sure, he
Speaker 1: like he is, like he owns the team. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you look at the football operations today, it is
Speaker 1: Tom Conflin's responsibility for what happens on that side of
Speaker 1: the building. So before it keeps saying that we get that,
Speaker 1: but he might be part of the problem. Okay, well
Speaker 1: then that, but then that is the responsibility of the
Speaker 1: owner to make a decision. But right now where we
Speaker 1: sit today, if you're looking at football, we're talking about football,
Speaker 1: and the question is asked about the football side of
Speaker 1: the building and that this is gonna be Tom making
Speaker 1: that decision. Guys, what like, where does that until he's
Speaker 1: told he can no longer make it? When they ask
Speaker 1: clean house, that's the first thing I think is top
Speaker 1: down everybody, So the question no, But then that's the question.
Speaker 1: The question should have read, is Tom conflan getting fired. No,
Speaker 1: The question should have read in the cleaning house And
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. That means everybody goes. But Pete,
Speaker 1: you're you're missing it? Are No, you are because the
Speaker 1: way the organization is set up, Tom Coughlin makes that
Speaker 1: decision but if he's part of the problem, he's not
Speaker 1: making a decision. But here, Tom, you go ahead, you
Speaker 1: hire a coach that you want to hire, and then
Speaker 1: we'll get rid of you and hire a new new
Speaker 1: executive vice president for ball operations. No, no, Pete, that
Speaker 1: doesn't how it works. Tom will come up with the
Speaker 1: plan of saying this is what this is where we
Speaker 1: are here, shot, here's the plan, fire me and everybody.
Speaker 1: What's the plan for him? Where's the plan for Tom? Pete?
Speaker 1: Let me know when you're done talking. Don't explain he
Speaker 1: failed me out on this one because he's way off base. Here,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm off base. This is how the
Speaker 1: organization set up. Tom will come up with a plan
Speaker 1: of what he's happening in football. Now Sean doesn't like
Speaker 1: the plan, Yeah, obviously he's gonna saying no, that's not
Speaker 1: a plan. I believe it. I think that's what was
Speaker 1: asked in the question clean house. And then but when
Speaker 1: we sit the day before you get to that point,
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't don't you give the guy who's in
Speaker 1: charge of football a chance to make a put a
Speaker 1: plan together, Not when he's not, when he's not, when
Speaker 1: he's perceived to be and assumed to be and and
Speaker 1: is part of the problem. So you're saying Tom's the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the whole thing is a problem. Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, I love the guy he's been. He's a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach. He will go into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. He's a Hall of Fame man. But let's
Speaker 1: be real. This team is not built to be a
Speaker 1: sustainable contender as is, and ultimately that falls on Tom. Okay, fair, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: if you want to position in that way, the question
Speaker 1: is what do you do? And I said it has
Speaker 1: to start with what Tom's gonna do, and obviously it
Speaker 1: all followed on him. He's the problem. Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: around and around circles. Now, Pizza, tell me what about
Speaker 1: the left? Which they ask you about left? Which I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think bar I think Barbe is going to
Speaker 1: be a heck of a head coach in this league.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he doesn't need another year calling plays
Speaker 1: and working with Bruce Matt Rule would be one of
Speaker 1: the guys I would look at the head beacher failor
Speaker 1: who the Jets tried to hire last year. I think
Speaker 1: he's a rising profession. Hey, if you want to shoot
Speaker 1: for the moon, go pride Lincoln Riley away from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Next question at Rachel f l A, Why did we
Speaker 1: go into this season with no depth in any position?
Speaker 1: Systemic failures for over ten years, pet Um, You can
Speaker 1: only have so much depth when you don't draft well.
Speaker 1: And that's the answer. Yeah, I haven't drafted well. That's why.
Speaker 1: Now that that's a very broad statement. Obviously they've gotten
Speaker 1: some right, but just overall, I mean that's a general statement,
Speaker 1: and we're not because the break there. Think. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: be honest. This year's draft looks pretty good too. I
Speaker 1: always say it's too early to make a judgment of
Speaker 1: a draft after one year, especially midway through the year.
Speaker 1: You can't make that judgment. Pete. You don't know that
Speaker 1: look pretty good until the time you just called. You
Speaker 1: just called Taylor an asset. So that's it. You saw
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is an asset and there's two giants. Two
Speaker 1: of the major assets on the team came in that
Speaker 1: draft as of right now. I agree. Okay, I ask
Speaker 1: you a question. Sixteen was supposed to be like the
Speaker 1: greatest draft ever. Let's go through the sixteen draft. Jalen Ramsey, No,
Speaker 1: no longer here, Myles Jack we got you got assets
Speaker 1: back for him, so it's kind of a wash. But
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jalen, I mean Miles Jacks. That one hasn't
Speaker 1: worked out. Okay, uh In Gockway was third, Yes, in
Speaker 1: gock Way worth the pick. Yeah, but okay, Sen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: Sheldon Day, He's not even here. Go ahead, defensive tackle
Speaker 1: Tyrone Holmes. Remember, keep going. Brandon Allen quarterback, not even here,
Speaker 1: starting for the Broncos. We caught him, go ahead and
Speaker 1: not very good and not very good. Jonathan Woodard defensive end,
Speaker 1: central arking, So don't even remember. That's it. So my
Speaker 1: point is, you have one player on the roster, what
Speaker 1: about the seventeen draft. But but here's my point, like
Speaker 1: everyone said, like when you make judgments of of the guys,
Speaker 1: we have two guys left in the roster from the
Speaker 1: sixteen draft, one who's not playing well, one who's a good,
Speaker 1: very good pass rusher. We'll go to the seventeen draft
Speaker 1: and look at that one. You have to have depth.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm going back to I don't want to
Speaker 1: go through every draft because if it's not in our depth,
Speaker 1: give me the Dante Fewler, t J Yeldon gone, a
Speaker 1: j Can he's the starter, James Sample safety, Rashad Green
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Michael Bennett defensive tackle, Sterling tight end, and
Speaker 1: Ben Koyyak tight ends. He's so so there's your draft.
Speaker 1: There's no depth from that draft at all. One you
Speaker 1: have one guy on the team. We can play this
Speaker 1: game in fourteen and thirteen and twelve if you want to.
Speaker 1: There there that does draft for disasters, right, I mean, alright,
Speaker 1: four team Blake, Markiss, Hurt, Allen Robinson's on, Brandon Linder,
Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin, Telvin Smith gone, Chris Smith, Luke Bawenko, Storm Johnson.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I mean that's I mean, like this
Speaker 1: is not like this is not surprising if you just
Speaker 1: look at like what's happened, Like that's why the seven
Speaker 1: go to seventeen just for the stake of the argument.
Speaker 1: One in the here this one a gay starter, Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson starter, Dan Smoot, d d Westbrook, that Blair Blair
Speaker 1: Brown gone, Jaylen Myrick Marquez, William stullback. So like you
Speaker 1: have like after two years, But Pete, you're right, you
Speaker 1: have to go like the depth of your team is
Speaker 1: built from like you know, six five, four years ago.
Speaker 1: Those are now you should be your veterans on your
Speaker 1: team that are making up your starters, some backup special
Speaker 1: I mean, those are your guys now seventeen. That's good.
Speaker 1: I'd hope most of them are here. It's only been
Speaker 1: two years, right, yes, I mean you don't want to
Speaker 1: lose him after two years? Correct? Um? Well, okay, what's
Speaker 1: the draft with Chark DJ Chark, Ronnie Harris Jackson, um
Speaker 1: quality star. That's a good pick. Go ahead, keep going on.
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison starting to be determined starting, But he's will Richardson,
Speaker 1: Tanner Lee quarterback, Leon Jacob's linebacker, he's a specialty player,
Speaker 1: and Logan Cook who will be a pro bowler most likely.
Speaker 1: So so basically that draft, they got depth out of
Speaker 1: that draft and players. Okay, the problem with that draft
Speaker 1: is they drafted Brian with the first round pick. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. But that I mean they answer, whoever, We'll
Speaker 1: take a break here and then let's do more social
Speaker 1: media next time next day. Yeah, okay, because you won't
Speaker 1: shut up. No, Pete's doing the most talking here. But
Speaker 1: that's the death answer. That's why. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: to our final social media question, just because Tony wants
Speaker 1: to at son of Duvall nine oh four, can we
Speaker 1: stop pretending like Folds is the best quarterback on this roster? Now?
Speaker 1: The offense looked flashy and exciting with Minshew, Now it
Speaker 1: looks prehistoric and downright boring with Fowls. Folds is boring
Speaker 1: an average Blah, Tony, how many points did we score
Speaker 1: against the Texans? Not enough? How many? Three? How many
Speaker 1: we score against the Saints? Six? Yeah? Okay, then they
Speaker 1: had three points when the game mattered, Tony, No, No,
Speaker 1: My point is it's no different. It's insane Bain scoring point.
Speaker 1: Bain scoredy points with when they played like good teams,
Speaker 1: Like like, what's the they scored? They scored fifteen total
Speaker 1: points against the Texans in two games. Okay, no read
Speaker 1: read out. They lost, uh you know a week one
Speaker 1: that they's lost forty to twenty six. Okay, so that
Speaker 1: was I think that's the high point ahead and seven
Speaker 1: of those were full Houston Texans. They lost thirteen twelve,
Speaker 1: scored twelve points. But he drove him down the field.
Speaker 1: Was his first start taking a shot at mintew. I'm
Speaker 1: taking a shot that this misnomer like we had this
Speaker 1: high flying offense that was flashy and amazing when he
Speaker 1: was the quarterback. That's not accurate. They beat the Titans
Speaker 1: twenty seven on Thursday, twenty points in this Day's lead,
Speaker 1: big deal, minshu Mania took off the win in Denver,
Speaker 1: come from behind, good game, showed some grit. Lost to
Speaker 1: the Panthers thirty four twenty seven when mccaffree ran for it.
Speaker 1: That seven that good points, thirteen six Saints wins, six
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Bengals, alright, win over the Jets. Okay,
Speaker 1: and and actually they've been playing good defense, better defense
Speaker 1: twenty six three loss to the Texans in London, loss
Speaker 1: to the Colts, that's of course. So I guess my
Speaker 1: point is I don't see like there's a couple of
Speaker 1: games they scored points against teams that were really bad
Speaker 1: at that point. Um, I'm not saying, like I like
Speaker 1: Mitch you, I think Mitche has a chance to be
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of this team. I think he'd be
Speaker 1: a franchise guys. Very possible. There's a possibility of that,
Speaker 1: real possibility. My whole point is saying that somehow, like
Speaker 1: there's this myth that we had this flashy offense that
Speaker 1: was going up and down the field with Minshew and
Speaker 1: it's just stalled out with Foals. Is there to mean
Speaker 1: one quick thing? Is there a chance Minshew is the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in September of two thousand and twenty. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's the night bench the eighty million dollar man. I
Speaker 1: think there is now where I do agree with the
Speaker 1: text message or the social media question. It is it
Speaker 1: felt more exciting because Mitsch you could extend plays and
Speaker 1: make off schedule plays. Folds has not shown us that,
Speaker 1: and that people wanted it to be more exciting because
Speaker 1: he was a six round pick, he didn't cost any money.
Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere. They wanted it to be
Speaker 1: more exciting. But even if it wasn't, I we're going
Speaker 1: to make it out to be. I agree. But where
Speaker 1: I agree with the question the social media question is
Speaker 1: the off schedule plays, the scrambling making guys miss I mean,
Speaker 1: that was fun and it was alive, and then it
Speaker 1: became a little bit of alive. I'm not disagreeing because
Speaker 1: the other thing we don't talk about he was leading
Speaker 1: I think at one time leading the NFL and fumbles
Speaker 1: as well, because of ball security. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: like we just make these blankets, statements and because of
Speaker 1: perception and sometimes it's not reality. Just asked any married man.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you think there's a chance he
Speaker 1: could be the opening day starter in two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty tells you all you need to know about your
Speaker 1: your perception of full I think. But the reason I
Speaker 1: say that because I think he's I think Minshi played
Speaker 1: pretty well, especially I mean especially for a rookie, and
Speaker 1: I think he has the opera. I think there's there's
Speaker 1: more room for growth of Gardner Mintshew because of the
Speaker 1: age and his lack of experience than there is for
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, just because of his experience and how long
Speaker 1: he's been the league. Again, the fact that you think
Speaker 1: it's a possibility considering how much they've paid to get
Speaker 1: Nick Foles tells you where you are and what you
Speaker 1: think about Nick Foles. Let's come back. We'll take a
Speaker 1: look at the a f C. South. Well, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter much for the Jags anymore. They dropped three
Speaker 1: consecutive division games. A look at the standings and the
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Speaker 1: in the locker room in Nashville yesterday. Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: continues j P Shadrick Pete Prisco Tony Baselli is thumbing
Speaker 1: through Twitter. He hasn't had enough of the social questions
Speaker 1: apparently tonight. I can't get it. You can't get enough.
Speaker 1: I love the people. You're a people person people, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that that you are. I'm a man. I'm a man
Speaker 1: of the people, A man of the people. One quick thing.
Speaker 1: You know what's sad with what's going on here is
Speaker 1: Tom's legacy in the eyes of the fans is being
Speaker 1: tarnished because of this. I don't like that, No, but
Speaker 1: it is um Okay, I think I agree. Yes, let
Speaker 1: me ask this. I'm not sure I do. I wasn't
Speaker 1: around here when he was gone. When he left here,
Speaker 1: he didn't leave on great terms. Here's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: Pete covered the team just left. You just left. But
Speaker 1: I was gone to by the way, I was at Houston.
Speaker 1: But if I remember correctly, I mean it was the
Speaker 1: fans that were demanding Wayne make a tray, I mean
Speaker 1: a change, correct I was still on the radio in Jacksonville. Next,
Speaker 1: What was it that Pete? Wasn't that the issue? I mean,
Speaker 1: the fans were the ones who wanted to change. The
Speaker 1: cap had gotten so out of whack, remember, yeah, and
Speaker 1: they had a number of losing seasons. And I think
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Tom Tomas, he had lost his
Speaker 1: way a little bit. I guess I'm bringing this up
Speaker 1: because whatever happens this year and next year, whenever, or
Speaker 1: maybe ten years from now, hopefully whenever, Tom uh is
Speaker 1: no longer in the role he's in, whether it's self
Speaker 1: induced and he's just ready to retire and go on,
Speaker 1: or if there's a desition decision made to go in
Speaker 1: a different direction. My hope is that time will heal
Speaker 1: all wounds, and that's usually what happens that you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years away from it, there will be
Speaker 1: no tar, you know, no tarnish legacy because people were
Speaker 1: you know, put you put in perspective and you look
Speaker 1: at the whole picture and you remember for hopefully you
Speaker 1: remember the good and the positive and all that was done. Um,
Speaker 1: because I don't want that's the last thing anyone latched.
Speaker 1: I don't want that for Tom. And no, it shouldn't
Speaker 1: happen either, but it will and it has. But time
Speaker 1: heals those things. I think, yes, yes it does. But
Speaker 1: right now the wound is open and still hurts, and
Speaker 1: people are gonna be angry. People are man thing about Tom.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about Tom. In my mind, Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin is one of the great coaches this league has
Speaker 1: ever seen. A Hall of Fame coach, hall of fame.
Speaker 1: Personnel hasn't always been a strong student, Tony. Let's be real,
Speaker 1: and I can go back and point out many, many, many,
Speaker 1: many personnel decisions he made when he was coach slash
Speaker 1: executive slash general manager of the entire organization, and there
Speaker 1: are many of them. So but coaching wise, there is
Speaker 1: no questioning that man is a coach, a great coach.
Speaker 1: And the second part of that is, and I said
Speaker 1: it earlier, there's no questioning him as a either because
Speaker 1: and not that does any doesn't absolve anything that's going
Speaker 1: on now. Tom Coughlin is an A plus person through
Speaker 1: and through, and a lot of coaches in this league
Speaker 1: you can't say that about. Let's touch on the a
Speaker 1: f C. Nothing else to add. Why I tried to
Speaker 1: move on That's right, he's very well said. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say. I mean, we were quiet. I don't
Speaker 1: even think we don't agree. It was just very well said.
Speaker 1: We'll give it an amen, Amen, Amen, Let's go. A
Speaker 1: f C South Results Thursday Night Football, the Texans over
Speaker 1: the Colds seventeen DeShawn Watson through a couple of touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and of course the only other division game yesterday in Nashville,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams ran for over a hundred again for the Colts.
Speaker 1: But the Texans come away with a win and the
Speaker 1: division lead. Pete Yeah, and they have the best quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so how about somebody asked me this yesterday and
Speaker 1: when we are working, how do you rank the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the AC? Set says, since we know what the
Speaker 1: division looks like from ranking the teams ranked the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: right now in the AC South, Watson are set, tanne
Speaker 1: Hill falls. That's how I ranked him. And somebody said,
Speaker 1: maybe the way Tannehill is playing right now, he might
Speaker 1: be ahead of her. Set. Well, I'll say this, the
Speaker 1: cult should have won that game. Let me back up,
Speaker 1: the Colt said, every opportunity to win that game. They
Speaker 1: actually took the lead uh late mid the late third
Speaker 1: quarter at a drive eleven play drive ten of them
Speaker 1: were run plays. Texans get the ball, they drive down
Speaker 1: and settled for a field goals set. Colts get the
Speaker 1: ball back and Frank Wright throw it three straight times
Speaker 1: and the three and out Texans got the ball scored
Speaker 1: and the game changed at that moment. I never I
Speaker 1: didn't understand why. From they were pounding the Texans, I
Speaker 1: mean they were beating them, pushing them off the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean they were having their yet that they become
Speaker 1: a rent run heavy team and then they're good at
Speaker 1: that line is good man, and they got away from it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I was a little bit surprised as t
Speaker 1: Y wasn't himself. He wasn't by any means, and so
Speaker 1: their limited at the receiver position a little bit without
Speaker 1: t Y and Paris Campbell I think is that his name?
Speaker 1: The rookie they drafted. Um, so now they lost. Now
Speaker 1: they lost Ebron two for the year. What was the
Speaker 1: injury there? Because he got hurt during the game, I
Speaker 1: don't remember, So that was a little bit surprising. Um.
Speaker 1: But listen the Texas one they split this year. I
Speaker 1: mean the power rankings, I think go as the record
Speaker 1: is right now, Houston, Indie, Tennessee, Jacksonville well and Tennessee
Speaker 1: plays Indie this week and then they have the Texans
Speaker 1: two times. Tennessee. That's a tough team, man, and Tennessee
Speaker 1: controls their destiny even though they wouldn't shock you to
Speaker 1: see them win the division. No, not at all. My
Speaker 1: Raybril does a good job. I think, uh was it
Speaker 1: John Robinson their GM, Yes, came over from Tampa. There's
Speaker 1: an outstanding job. I think it's a good combination. They
Speaker 1: worked well together. They build the team based on what
Speaker 1: they want to do as a staff, and they're a
Speaker 1: tough team. Let's come back. We'll talk to all the
Speaker 1: other games in the league in Week twelve, Final Final segment.
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Speaker 1: so we're here to see who's going to go for
Speaker 1: the wind? First off, Molly took it to the next
Speaker 1: level with the chairs and the coolers. Here comes in
Speaker 1: bringing it with those killer boots in that portable grill.
Speaker 1: Oh my, I think she's going for him. Mom, I
Speaker 1: think the hot dogs are on fire. Hold on, honey, ladies,
Speaker 1: where did you go to get ready for the game? Start?
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Speaker 1: Jaguars this season, Stuy mart saving is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: We're back, Jaguars happy, our j P shattered, Tony Wasselly
Speaker 1: Pete Presco. We really should do that in commercial podcasts Uncensored. No,
Speaker 1: we talked about it every week. I don't think we should,
Speaker 1: especially this week. This will be a good episode this week.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be smart. Why is he? Is
Speaker 1: he uh lit tonight? He's crying about us teaming up
Speaker 1: on him tonight? No, Well that's not accurate. You were
Speaker 1: I was not giant. First of all, if you believe
Speaker 1: that I got some swamp land, I can sell you.
Speaker 1: Um JP is a liar and we now have that
Speaker 1: confirmed that he is uh misleading the people. How do
Speaker 1: you have that confirmed? What are you talking about? I've confirmed?
Speaker 1: Oh you you are the sod. He made himself the
Speaker 1: source of his own store. Can't you do that? Pete? Journalism?
Speaker 1: Oh you need to get another source that I heard.
Speaker 1: Nowadays you're able to do. That's a new standard. No, nowadays,
Speaker 1: don't even do any sources. Just say it. That's my point.
Speaker 1: Let's go around the games. In Week twelve league, the
Speaker 1: Bucketeers over the Falcons thirty five two jamis and the
Speaker 1: Bucks with a wind Pete, Yeah, died. The Falcons were
Speaker 1: the story though for me in this game they looked
Speaker 1: like they had righted things after the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: and they went back to being miserable again and no
Speaker 1: sacks after getting bunches of them the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: So holds the ball forever? What's that? And I said?
Speaker 1: And Winston holds the ball forever. He does hold the
Speaker 1: ball forever. But he also threw for three thirty and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and two interceptions. Would you take three thirty
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns right? Two interceptions and two interceptions? Would
Speaker 1: you take that? T P don't be he would take it.
Speaker 1: That's why he's not answering. That's not I don't believe
Speaker 1: you play football planning on turning the ball over. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work that you're planning on it. You never you
Speaker 1: have to give the two picks with them, they come along.
Speaker 1: Trust me. Show me the last time Jamis did not
Speaker 1: throw a pick in the game. Probably been a while.
Speaker 1: I can look that up. By the way, the Bills over.
Speaker 1: The last time somebody in Jacksonville threw four touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It's been a while. The Bills over
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Frank Gore becomes a third all time leading rusher,
Speaker 1: surpassing Barry Sanders trially, only Emmett and Walter Payton. He's
Speaker 1: in the past, Walter Payton most likely. I mean, what
Speaker 1: is the A few hundred yards left? Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a testament to his longevity. I mean, think about
Speaker 1: this for a second, and got toured two A c
Speaker 1: ls in college. No, he's remarkable. He's a and he's
Speaker 1: not slowing I mean, I guess he's slowing down, but
Speaker 1: his yards for attempt is still good. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be sound like I'm a Homer as good as
Speaker 1: he is and as Hall of fame worthy as he is.
Speaker 1: He wanted better running back in fred Taylor. I take
Speaker 1: Freddy t By the way, the last special, last interception
Speaker 1: free game for Jamis was at Seattle on the third
Speaker 1: of November. Wow, I stand correct too. He was passing
Speaker 1: and they lost. Tony would take that. Throws Bears over
Speaker 1: the Giants nineteen fourteen, struggle to get points in that game.
Speaker 1: Talking about that game, Steelers over the Angles sixteen. Tin
Speaker 1: Hodges new quarterback man, and they might slide into this
Speaker 1: thing Mason Rudolph out Ruda, Uh, the Duck Dynasty whatever
Speaker 1: his name is, Devil Hodges Hodges in and uh. And
Speaker 1: that war this week with the Browns, the rematch. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see it. They're six and five and
Speaker 1: they have an easy record, too easy schedule coming up,
Speaker 1: schedule coming up. I mean they testament to uh, Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: I mean what a job. I mean, they have injuries,
Speaker 1: lost guys. You think about that. They played yesterday. They
Speaker 1: played a bad team, but they played yesterday without Smith, Schuster,
Speaker 1: Connor Roethlisberger. I mean, thank your hon and on it goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they also played the Bengals yesterday, but still you're still
Speaker 1: winning games you're supposed to win. Are the Bengals gonna
Speaker 1: go winless? They're going back to Dalton? Now, did you
Speaker 1: see that the Browns over the Dolphins. Mayfield actually looked good,
Speaker 1: but he's playing a Dolphins, so it's like a seven
Speaker 1: on seven game practice. The Brown's gonna make a run here. Pete, Well,
Speaker 1: the loser of this week's game between the Steelers and
Speaker 1: Browns is out elimination game. According to Pete Prisco, Saints
Speaker 1: over the Panthers late second or last second field goal
Speaker 1: for the Saints. Gotta done Panthers, mr field goal Panthers
Speaker 1: for the Saints. By the way, it's a bunch of field.
Speaker 1: The Panthers missed a chip shot amongst other field goals,
Speaker 1: but the chip shot was like a twenty nine yard
Speaker 1: or to take the lead. And at that point, worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, they go to overtime, right and and Tony.
Speaker 1: But here's what. In the last two of the last
Speaker 1: three games, the Saints lost to the Falcons by getting
Speaker 1: whipped physically on both lines. And now they almost lost
Speaker 1: or should have lost the Panthers by giving up thirty
Speaker 1: one or it should have been thirty four. Not a
Speaker 1: good look for a team that at one point we
Speaker 1: thought was in the conversation would be the best team
Speaker 1: in the league. That's fair, but I think the Panthers
Speaker 1: are better than people give him credit for not Defensively,
Speaker 1: they're not fair. Jets over the Raiders. Three shocker of
Speaker 1: the weekend World happen. I think I was one of
Speaker 1: my best picks of the week. The rest of them stunt,
Speaker 1: But I thought the Jets would win that game. Not
Speaker 1: that not No. I thought Derek Carr would throw some
Speaker 1: passes and hit some passes as well. It's a perfect storm.
Speaker 1: Got a West Coast team going east, playing an early
Speaker 1: start against a team that's playing much better. And then, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, next week, the Raiders played the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in the rivalry game for the division. So how did
Speaker 1: how did? How did Sam Donald book? Much better? He's
Speaker 1: getting better and better. Let's get through the rest of
Speaker 1: these quickly. Seahawks over the Eagles seventeen nine, The Redskins
Speaker 1: beat the Lions nineteen sixteen, the Patriots somehow beat the
Speaker 1: Cowboys thirteen to nine, and the forty Niners flex some
Speaker 1: muscles in a thirty seven and eight over the Packers.
Speaker 1: The Packers are nowhere near the best team in the
Speaker 1: NFC right now, right now, the best team by far.
Speaker 1: It's the It is the San Francisco forty Niners. They're
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC. Just stop denying it.
Speaker 1: It's the truth. Baby. Monday Football, the m v P
Speaker 1: frontrunner Lamar Jackson brings the eight and to Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to face the six and four Rams,
Speaker 1: including three former Jaguar's first round draft picks. Huge ball
Speaker 1: game at the l A Colosseum. Who you got tonight?
Speaker 1: I like the Ravens. I like the Ravens are the
Speaker 1: best team in the a f c uh and I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna and they play really good defense,
Speaker 1: opportunistic defense. The offensive line for the Rams is not
Speaker 1: very good. And I don't think I don't think the
Speaker 1: Rams are gonna slow down Lamar Jackson. I think he
Speaker 1: has a big night in l A. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1: I think the Rams are gonna win that game. And
Speaker 1: I think Wade Phillips is gonna come up with the
Speaker 1: perfect game plan to slow down Lamar jack What is that?
Speaker 1: Bete have a great week. We'll talk to you next time,
Speaker 1: and happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. To Yeah,
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Scene right. Happy Thanksgiving to you
Speaker 1: and do you. I'll be in Atlanta doing the game
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, so have a Turkey leg for me. We'll
Speaker 1: do it, Tony, but tell your entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick.
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