WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 25 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.640 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football that could never happen. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.600 When you're taking a knee, the game is ooh, that 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:18.560 was cheap. Five to Seattle. It is Monday, November. This 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:28.280 is Jaguars. Jaguars happening always ended by Hey, now, a 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.640 guy who wants you to know the only pold that 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:40.080 matters is the CBS Bowl j Peace, What does that mean? 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.480 I have no idea? Why does my headset sound all weird? 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:50.600 I don't know? I have no does yours? The season 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.000 ended yesterday? What are we doing a show for? What 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:57.640 is going on? Pete didn't and we got five to go? Baby, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.200 this is Jaguars is happy Hour. I'm JP Shaddrick, Tony 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.520 was Sally to my left. You are right, Pete Brisco. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.600 This to our south in Fort Lauderdale. And here's what's 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.840 coming up on the show today. We'll recap Jaguars losing 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.560 again for the final score in Nashville yesterday, the run 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:24.280 defense or lack thereof again, inconsistent offense. Five games to go, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.800 now what we'll get some social media questions and yes, sir, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.920 we got some doozies. Today. We'll go around the division 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.160 and around the National Football League. That's all coming up. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.520 That's the show. Doug Marone after the game yesterday in Nashville, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.160 trying to get things right the rest of the way. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.000 At the end of the day, I told the players 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.560 the same thing. I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna be 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.600 the same questions. You know about jobs, switching quarterbacks, changes 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.880 players and all that stuff. And you know, I still 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.840 believe I don't know what happens in this slave, but 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.880 we're gonna work our ass off to get this team 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.600 right somehow, some way. That's the job. Um, put your 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.000 head down on my pist. Yes am I embarrassed, Yes 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.880 I am that, and and I'm not speaking for anyone else. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.040 You're gonna have to tell them, but I promised them 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:12.560 that I am going to do a better job and 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.000 I'm gonna work my butt off to get this thing right. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.880 All right. That's set the stage for the week ahead 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.040 and for the month ahead for this Jaguars team. Three 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.160 consecutive losses, but I combined a hundred one to thirty 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.680 six to division rivals, and I think it's the first 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.960 time that uh, we've lost three division games since two 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.760 thousand and the first time in the history to row 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.639 three in a row, and the first time in the 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.040 history of the franchise that we've lost three in a 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.920 row by a margin of there was a it was 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.440 a close call in the fifteen where they had twenty 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:58.200 plus twenty plus and the nineteen that's the next closest, Nicky, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.520 I feel pretty good about our expansion team now, I 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:09.760 mean compared to this mess. Well, there's no way to 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.240 sugarcoat it. I mean it's a it's not very good 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.560 right now. The team isn't very good. It's bad football. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:24.560 And you have to look at every level of the 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:32.320 organization on the football side, so starting with Tom, Dave, Doug, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.960 and it's their responsibility. I mean, at the end of 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.280 the day, that's where that's what they were hired to do. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.960 And right now it's not going very well. It's not 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.120 good enough. It's uh, it's well beal, it's well below 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.000 good enough. Doug said it, Dougs called it. I think 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:58.000 Doug's been very honest and transparent. Um, it'll be interesting 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:02.720 to see what happens and what decisions are made. And uh, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.760 and it is it's not good right now. I mean 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.840 there's I'm looking looking for and I missed her like, hey, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:16.360 like figure out there's opportunity. You know, you're never out 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.919 of it, and you know that. Someone asked me to days, like, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.280 well you were four and seven and nine. I said, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.800 that's not even close to the same situation. Number one 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.480 in Nix. This team was losing close games. This team 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.400 was not we trust me. I was in the locker 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.719 room in ninety six. We weren't talking about the playoffs 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.080 at four and seven. We're worried about, like how do 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.560 we win a game? And so that's where you have 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.719 to go back to. If you're this team, it's like 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.960 like forget everything else, Like the playoffs are such a 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:54.159 pipe dream right now, and so like inconsequential, why would 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.840 you even mention it? That's my point, Like I mean, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.640 like response to what people asking, like, it doesn't matter. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.040 You gotta win a football game. You gotta win a 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.000 football Game's over. It's over. The thing as you knew 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.000 it two weeks ago during the bye week is over, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.359 the whole thing, all the way across the board. It's done. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.880 It's over. What do you mean, what's it's over? They're 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.760 gonna be major sweeping changes they're coming. It's done. But 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.240 like number one. You don't know that. Oh come on, Tony, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.479 you know that. I don't. I don't know that, like 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.240 the only person. Two more games the rest of the way. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.240 Two more and that's being generous, Pete. I have no 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.880 idea what's gonna happen. Here's this is what I do know. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.080 I knows I don't know. I know this that Tom 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.080 Coughlin was hired to run the football side of this business. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:58.000 There's two people. Mark Lamping runs the business side. He's 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.760 responsible for what happens on that side. I'm Conflin is 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:05.120 responsible before it happens on the football side of this organization. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.040 You know that, I don't know what Tom's gonna do. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.960 I I think Tom might just walk away. That's just 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.599 a hunch. I don't know why, but I just have 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.080 a hunch. I don't know what he's gonna do. But 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.040 it's his responsibility. That's what he was hired to do. Two. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.039 Build a winning organization, win football games, compete for the 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.400 NFC title, getting the playoffs, and give yourself a chance 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.000 every year to go win a Lombardi Trophy. That's the 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.840 that's the that's that's what that's what we at the 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.880 end of the day. This organization is here to win 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.680 football games, and that's what you do in the NFL. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.080 And so I don't know what Tom's gonna do. Well, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.320 maybe Tom's not gonna be the one making the decision, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.120 but he but he is. It's his job, that's what 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.400 he was hired to do. But maybe he's not gonna 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.839 be around to make the decision. Maybe they all go. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.479 I don't know that I'm saying right now where we 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.359 sit today, what we do know, Pete, is Tom Coughlin 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.560 is in charge and it is his job responsibility. Whatever 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.240 you want to say to what happened, whatever happens on 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.480 the football side, that's okay, But that's coaching. That's no. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.560 I'm not I'm telling you what a the fact is today. Look, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.480 I have nothing but the us most respect for Tom Coughlin. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.119 The list came out the other day, the twenty greatest coaches, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.000 and he wasn't on it and infuriated me. There's no 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.040 way that Tony Dungee should be on any list ahead 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.120 and Tom Coughlin, Tom Coffin will go into the Hall 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.080 of Fame, and I can't wait to sit there front 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 and center to see him do it. Probably, how is 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.320 How is Tom won two Super Bowls? How is he 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:45.840 not ahead of I don't know. And I love Tony Dungee, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.080 but Tom was a better coach Tony dung any one too. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.560 So that's a here, that's an a side, that's an aside. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.080 What's going on in this organization right now? There is 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:01.320 not enough talent to win and that Tom Gofflin's job. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.840 And so that's what How did it turns so quickly? Though? 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.200 Because they had talent a couple of years ago. Yeah, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.400 two years ago they had town, but the majority of 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.400 the talent, if you look at it too much of 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.640 was free agent talent that changes quickly. You overpay you 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.880 um and if you go back to Seen, which I love, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.800 it was such a fun year. But we said it 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.080 on this show it was not repeatable. That you cannot 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.360 count on winning football games that way in the division 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.240 you played for Your four division wins were against second 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:44.559 and third string quarterbacks. I mean that's yeah, I mean 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:49.120 that's the reality when you're built that way. It's not sustainable. Ever, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.760 I don't care if you beat beat the first quarterbacks. Notable. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.520 But my point is, I agree with my whole point. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.040 Was it a perfect storm? It was perfect. Story wasn't repeatable, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.760 and that's fine that happened, but to say that you 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.480 can count on that is not accurate. And you had 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.480 a situation where you had a number of free agents 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.360 that were signed. And give credit to Tom and Dave. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:17.160 They signed him that had all time career years and 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.440 it worked out. But from that team, let's just go 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.120 through it. Gibson's gone, had a great year, Barry Church 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.760 has gone, had a great year, Marcel Darius is on 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.280 i R. Malie Jackson gone had a great year. Plays 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.280 Campbell's two years older, and he's not playing like you 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.679 used to. A j boy older, not playing the way. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.120 Jalen Ramsey no longer on the team, Dante Faller no 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.400 longer jack not playing well, but forget that, but Dante 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:49.160 Faller no longer team uh twenty, Jalen Ramsey no longer 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.640 on the team. Like the majority of that defense is 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.280 even here and they carried this team well, and how 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.160 many guys from the offensive side of the ball are 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.240 still here? Well, that offense is a whole different story. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.320 I mean, well, they were good, but how many guys 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.280 from that offensive team are still contributors right now? Under 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.720 lender Cam from net A j Can the receiving corps 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:18.440 outside of uh no chart No. Calmly Ded was a 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.000 role player. Uh Keelan Cole was on that team. He 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.640 had an impactful year. Marquis is gone. I don't know who. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:31.400 I can't remember the Marcedes Lewis is gone. Um who's 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.480 a key blocker? So what does that fall? Is it 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.920 falling time? Does it falling Dave? Does it fall on 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.960 the coach? It's that because there's always gonna be turnover 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.800 on your roster, particularly if you go out and get 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.600 the older guys like that. No, but but but it's 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.880 a fair question. So where it falls it falls on. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.040 I mean it's Tom's responsibility at the end of the day. Yes, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.520 he's he's the boss. No different, like no different. If 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.400 something happens on the business side, it's like Mark Lamping, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.080 he's the boss. And that's just the way I mean, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.720 they they're they signed up for it, that's what they 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.000 were hired to do. And and so you have to 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.880 go back and when you you miss on draft picks 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.319 and you go through free agency, this this happens, and 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.960 so all of a sudden you start having holes in 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.920 the roster and it's hard to fill them, because we 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.400 said this last week. And Pete, you've been covering this 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.120 league as long as I played it for a team 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.640 in National now and you've covered it for the Times 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.040 Union before I even got here. Yeah, and if you 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:41.080 look at it, the successful teams build through the draft 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.640 and sprinkling free agency. Yeah, they're best players are their 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.880 draft picks, and especially they avoid bad usually in a 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:55.000 lot of situations, they avoid terrible contracts. I mean, Okay, Tony, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.520 let's just say, for the sake of this whole conversation, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.240 you're taking over the Jacksonville Jaguars next year, right, You're 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.520 gonna take it over. Run it. The assets clearly are 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.360 the two draft picks in the first round, big time assets. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.160 But go through that roster and tell me where the 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.439 other assets are. Well, I think we have good I 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.480 think I think Josh Allen's is gonna be a heck 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.240 of a player. Bingo. I'll tell you if I agree 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.720 with your dog. I think, uh, I think Jannique is 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.240 a very good pass rusher. What do you do with him? 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.920 Though you have no you have a little cap room, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.040 and you gotta find a way to keep them. You 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.160 gonna pay him the big money. Just a tough situation. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.320 You have to make that decision. I'm not like one 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.440 thing Pete number one. I'm not the GM, I'm not 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.520 in charge. I'll go through where I see the assets. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.360 I'm not cutting like we do this every year. Unfortunately, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.400 I'm not cutting it. I'm not cutting you. I'm not 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.160 doing I'm not cutting the team either, but I'm just 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.000 telling where, okay, the assets. I think d J. Chark 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.760 is a good player as an opportunity to be number one. UM. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.559 I think Leonard four Nette in the right system. I mean, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.559 he's a power back, downhill guy. But you have to 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.679 commit to say we're gonna have tight big tight ends 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.920 and fullback on the roster because he would like he 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.160 gets north and south and he has good hands out 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.160 of the backfield, like he's an effective player. I think 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.520 I'm gonna I'm not gonna argue that that's an asset. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.439 I think I thought he had an outstanding game yesterday. 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.400 About a quarterback, I don't know if there's an asset 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.959 there or not. It might be an overprice, overpriced asset. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.640 It's gonna be. The quarterback situation is interesting to me 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.719 because it's not like Nick Foles is played terrible by 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:33.880 any means, and like it wasn't good yesterday. But here's 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.600 my point. If Gardner minshe is in there, you're not 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.920 winning the game by getting you give up two yards rushing, 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.320 it's not gonna You're not gonna win. What did seven 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.160 three at a half? And they've done nothing? Seven three? 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.199 So and this team struggled when Gardner was in there. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:53.559 The score points as well, but the who Gardener million 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.840 dollars or whatever the pain is No. I'm bringing up 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.079 the point of people saying, well, bench folds now and 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.599 put Gardner like that's gonna fix everything that doesn't know. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.280 The bigger question is did they make a mistake by 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.400 paying Folds? Well, I think you have five games to 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:11.440 find out right now. As of right now after two 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.320 games and im playing, what would your answer be? Way 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.040 too early to make that judgment. I'm not making judgment, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.200 but you can get an idea right now would be yes, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.880 they paid them too much, and and his attitude after 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.560 the game. These to need some working on. But I mean, people, 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.560 come on, man. The one thing that I want to 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.280 be consistent here is we know you over paying free agency. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.640 You always do, so just say you paid too much. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.880 It's just it's a stupid conversation. The question should be, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.200 because he's now your quarterback, he's on your roster, can 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.040 you win and get to the Can you win the 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.640 NFC South and get to the playoffs with Nick Foles 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.720 your quarterback? That's the question you have to ask yourself, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.760 and you have to make that decision over the next 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.920 five weeks. And are you built to pay them, pay 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.960 them that money. They made the decision already in March. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.800 I'm not gonna debate, go back and debate whether it's 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.520 right or wrong. And we can go through and debate 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.320 draft picks. We can do all that revisionist history. It's 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.240 much easier to sit here and with you know, looking back, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.360 having vision. I'm saying, you asked me, sitting here today, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.520 looking forward, what decisions do you make? Nick Foles is 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.840 on your team. He's going to be on your team 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.680 next year because of the calf situation and how much 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.760 you've paid him and guaranteed. And so the question now 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.960 is you look forward and as you evaluate things, because 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.000 you can't go back and change it. It's not gonna 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.040 it's impossible. And so you now have to evaluate the 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.720 next five weeks and the question you have to answer 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.000 and you have to make a decision. Can Nick Foles 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.480 be your quarterback to win the a f C South, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.680 getting the playoffs and contend to win a Lombardi Trophy 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.240 because that at the end of the day, that's all 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.400 that matters. And what's the answer to that question. I'll 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.960 tell you in five weeks. I don't know you have 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.240 an idea. Right now? We have five more shows to do. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.520 I mean, all the good stuff right now. Did you 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.200 notice on the outthrow he made that the ball barely 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.160 got there. It looked like he has no zip on 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.600 the ball. I also saw an out route that had 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.720 a lot of zip on it. But you know what's 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.920 what I'm talking about. It was it looked like it 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.680 was in the air for about six weeks. It was 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.240 like I always like the same was a Hania balloon. Listen, Pete. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.360 I've been watching him for practice. He's coming off collar bone. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.560 I don't know what the impact is. I mean, you 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.360 have to ask the trainers, the coaching staff. He sees 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.120 him every day and Fulls didn't say anything. They asked 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.760 him about that after the game, he said, he's fine. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.400 I mean, it could have been. He also at times 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.280 didn't look a couple from the pocket. His feet weren't 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.280 always square. I mean it could be a number of things. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:49.840 You know that pete, that lower body can get in 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.000 the right position. Half the time is the battle and 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.480 feeling confident where you want to go at the ball. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.600 We make it before we go to break the point 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.880 I'm making JP and Tony is this lost in the 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.360 how horrible the defense has been, and it has been horrible. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.040 Is the fact that he hasn't been that good period, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.879 end of story, in the two games that we have 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.359 seen him. I would say he's average. That's it now. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.680 If you want to compare it to making the money 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.919 he is, which I think is dangerous because he's now 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.040 on your roster. Fair is he a guy that is, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.280 you know, top ten quarterback in this league like he's 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.760 getting paid. I don't think so either. 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We should 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.640 still get him down at the forty our safeties, Um, obviously, 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.960 you know, can do a better job there, Head coach 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.240 jag Marone. Yesterday in Nashville after the Jaguars lost to 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.320 the Tennessee Titans forty two twenty the final score and 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.120 welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.320 j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Brisco are breaking it 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.359 all down and we go to the Jaguars defense. Yesterday 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.480 two nineteen rushing yards allowed in the game, third consecutive 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.880 game allowing over two hundred rushing yards. Derrick Henry has 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.920 another highlight real type of day with a seventy four 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.880 yard score with the draw strings bouncing around, their hair, 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.359 flying out on the back of his helmet, stiff arm 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.520 and guys down the sideline again and we talked about 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.439 it all week, guys like you gotta stop Henry and 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.679 can they do it? Well, they proved they could not 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.680 do it again three straight games. So is this um 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:31.760 is that it's over? Is that over six yards and 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:39.000 three games? That's that's tough? Um? It's little litterally literally 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.959 unheard of in Jaguar's history. Yeah, I mean you watched 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:47.000 the tape and I watched it and like schematically like 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:50.560 what they're doing is sound in my opinion. But when 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.560 guys are in the wrong gap, they're getting reached, they 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.879 don't get off blocks, they're getting pushed around. We have 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.639 defensive lineman getting pushed five six yards down the field. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:03.040 Our linebackers are not reacting properly. And then you know, 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.640 what do you expect? That's what's gonna happen, and that's 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.639 just bad football. And then you know the straight arm 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.960 down the field. He's a great player and he is 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.000 one of the best stuff stuff arms in all football. 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.040 And you got one or two choices there. You gotta 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.800 knock that thing down. You gotta chop it and tackle him, 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.359 or you gonna go go low and go out his feet. 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.119 But you can't just run with him and let him 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.359 push you away one or the other, chop it and 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.840 get on him, or go and tackle him low. And 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.400 I would, like I would last year's game would exactly. 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.240 I would recommend tackling low. Then you got a tree 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:41.920 trunk hitting you in the head. Well, you know what, 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.000 that's part of the deal. Signs another one. Here's another one. 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.120 How about don't let him get going. He's not the runner, 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:50.640 and he's like for Nett. If he doesn't get going, 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:55.680 he's not gonna get going. He's actually he's much different 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.040 than for Net. But you know what I mean. If 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.919 he starts, he he is really good. He has a 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.800 great jump cut, he's a zone runner. He's an outstanding 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:11.439 zone scheme runner. Leonard is a very good downhill gap runner. 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.720 So they're different styles. They're both big backs. They have 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:20.159 that in common. Um. But you know, for he you know, 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.879 Derrick Henry has one of the greatest best death arms 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:26.359 in football right now. And when you don't stay in 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:31.359 your gap and you get pushed around, there's not a 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:36.119 defense you can design for you. It goes back to 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:42.840 the personnel. Then, yes, the argument, I don't that's where 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.359 I go. Now, that doesn't excuse the coach of the 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.919 coach's job is not only schematically to set up you know, 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.200 the right scheme is you gotta get your guys to play. 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.399 And now if they just can't do it, then I 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.840 don't know what you do to wondering yards a game 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.920 on the ground. But I I don't see it being 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.800 a schematic issue when I watch, I'm not and I 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:14.600 mean maybe at times, but if you give up, it 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:19.679 is hard. And as you said, JP, I love it's 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.359 unheard of. I'd like to know the last time an 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:26.479 NFL team gave up three straight games. Doesn't It's almost 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:32.000 impossible to do. And so when that happens, I mean 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.199 it is you have to look at every level. You 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.119 have to look at picking the players. You have to 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.480 look at coaching the players. You have to look at 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.879 the players effort, you know, skill set all of them together. 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:51.040 When you see something that unheard of, Pete, do you 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:56.440 remember a time as this happened in the league? No? Oh, 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.640 I don't. And I'm trying to think about this game here, 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:06.280 who's that fault? Coaches or players here? And what this game? 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:14.280 I think we've lost Peter. You there, now we've lost Pete. 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.400 We'll get back with Pete in just a minute. Yeah, 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:22.440 it's gotta be I'm sure it's happened at some point, Tony. Um. 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.520 But this is a rarity obviously in the NFL. YEA 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.200 the wrong kind of that. It smells terrible. Yeah, it's 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:35.479 not where you want to be. Um. Uh Yeah. And 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:42.600 so what you got when you look at that long play, 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.200 and Doug talked about it, you have the three technique 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.800 going inside, he gets overreached, he's in the wrong gap, 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.879 which messes up everybody else, right, Yeah, and on that 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.920 play with Tavin, but he's not the only offender. Um. 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.360 You have guys getting pushed off the ball. You have 0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:02.080 no one getting off blocks, um. And you have poor tackling. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.359 And so I know Doug talked about last week getting 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.439 back to the fundamentals of tackling and stuff. You know, 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:12.280 for the first half, they did a good job, gave 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:17.480 up seven points, but they were I hate to say this, 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:21.359 but it looked physically overmatched. Yeah, they just got overmatched. 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.200 They just got blown off the ball. I got blocked. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:26.840 You gotta get off the ball. You gotta stay in 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.359 your feet, you gotta run, you gotta tackles, gotta beat guys. 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:31.480 At the end of the day. This is a game 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.840 about beating the guy in front of you, is it. 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.080 Here's a question for you. Is it more of the 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.640 that those guys are just better or is it a bet? 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.200 Or is it an effort? They're better? They're better. Okay, 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.280 it's not a lack of effort. At times, it probably is, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.199 you know, you see times, but not that's not the 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.960 core problem. I don't think you have a bunch of 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.480 guys out there jaking it, laying down their line was 0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.720 just better. They're better than the guys up front for Jacksonville. 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:05.800 They're better end of the day. Um, And that's hard. 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.760 It's hard to say for me because you know it's hard. 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.879 I know it's hard. Guys don't like hearing that, especially 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.440 when you're a player. But the only way you change 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.960 that you gotta do something about it. They got beat, 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.439 they got blocked. There's no coaching that is gonna like 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.560 magically fixed that. Like there's not a scheme that all 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:27.200 of a sudden like everything's fixed. When guys are getting 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.520 pushed off the ball and running through you and and 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.320 running wide open and we even't got to that. The 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.639 guys running wide open in the second I mean just 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:42.320 wide open yep, and so like, you gotta do a 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.880 better job. They were so amped up to try to 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.520 stop to run early in the game. The first player 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.880 of the game, here comes a bootleg with a quarterback 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.560 for twenty yards. Yeah, there's some exotic things on offense 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.720 yesterday's Surprisingly, it wasn't that exotic. It's a basic bootleg. 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.400 But we were so concerned about running, you know, tackling 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.720 Derrick Henry. We forgot that. There's actually you gotta do 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.600 your job and stay in your gap in and and 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.680 follow your keys. And we didn't do a good job 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.040 of that that early. But you know, we got some 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.560 stops we got off the field. We gotta turnover. You know, 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.479 we made some things happen, but we couldn't hold up. 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.600 We just, uh, there's no other way to say it. 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.960 I mean, it's not like football, like everyone wants these 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.880 like simple answers, and there the simple answers is win. Like, 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:30.600 here's how you win football games. You have big, strong, 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.760 physical guys that control the line of scrimmage on both sides. 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.560 You want to look good at the end of the day. 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.240 You want you want to look at the teams who win, 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:44.120 they consistently win the line of scrimmage because they have big, nasty, 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.640 physical human beings. Yeah, and then you have a quarterback 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.160 that can pull the trigger and make things happen, and 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.960 you have a pretty good chance to win. Now does 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.280 I'm not discounting any other position. Obviously, having a great 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.600 corner changes how you play defense. And you know, right, 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.040 but it's a big man's game. That's where football was designed. 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.240 We played, as Tom Coughlin told us in his introductory 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.640 press conference, by the way, and we are overmatched right now. 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:10.959 I mean, I don't know how to say it. When 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.160 you give a three stay games a two hundred yards, 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.840 You're getting blocked, You're going the wrong in the wrong gaps. 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.160 You're not flowing to the ball, you're not getting off tackles, 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:28.240 you're not reacting, you're not coming up being physical. It's 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.320 a problem. Let's come back, we'll discuss the offense. We'll 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.400 delive a little more into Nick Fole's day. This isn't 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.680 the most positive show we've had. I don't know, We're 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.080 we're trending downwards. 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I mean so, like I said 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.200 that last week, you either give up or you keep 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.640 moving and you keep going forward against You know, everyone's 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.160 gonna be negative, everyone's gonna ask all these questions because 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.440 that's y'all's job. I get it. I'm not gonna sit 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.560 here and be upset about it. But then the day 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.880 of my job is to continue to keep a positive 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.399 attitude within the locker room and continue to leave these 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.400 guys and I'm not the only one leading. Um. You know, 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.319 you have to You have to go through trials to 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.960 build character, and that's what we're doing right now. It's 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:53.600 not fun. It's not fun to go out there and 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:58.080 get beat like that. Nick Foles, Jaguar's quarterback yesterday in 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.080 Nashville after the forty who twenty lost to the Tennessee Titans. 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.120 Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our g PI, Shadrick, Tony Vaselli. 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.160 We're out to Pete Prisco. He'll be back with us 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.080 uh as soon as we can get him and the Jags. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.440 We touched on the offense earlier, right and Nick Foles 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.480 his days the last two times out, so before we 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:26.640 get that I know the a lot of fans, or 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.320 at least through Twitter, you know, have not been overly 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.399 excited about Nick foles comments after the game the last 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.120 two weeks. Yes, man, We'll just we just heard the 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:38.960 ones there, and I know Pete kind of said something. 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.080 Pete said something earlier that he thinks the comments are 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.799 ridiculous they need to change. I don't. I mean, does 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:52.359 it matter, Like I don't like what did he say there? 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.440 That is so wrong? And like, I know what the 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.960 fans want. They wanted to pound the fist and say, 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.240 you know, I'm like they suck and suck and like everyone. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.279 So I mean it's like, it's what he said is 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:10.160 innocuous to me. Well, I think the fans have a 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:15.759 broader scope of building character twelve years of building. I 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:20.399 get that. But that's not his problem. He hasn't been here, right, 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.120 I'm just telling you what they get that. I'm the 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:23.960 most part with their feeling. I'm not mad about the 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.960 fans being frustrated, you know, I mean every right to 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.120 be frustrated. Pete. Are you back with us now? Yeah? 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.600 I'm here. You know what, I tend to agree with 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.719 the fans on that one. Nobody wants to hear that. 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:43.000 Crack okay, I mean maybe, I mean they just don't. 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.440 Nobody wants to hear that at this what are you 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.279 building to? You know, you got to go through the 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.799 bad time to get the good time. They don't want 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.680 to hear it. What do they want to hear? What 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.560 would you like Nick Foles saying that's what they get 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.319 come up with book. We're not good enough right now. 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.080 We're working to get better. It's not about building a culture. 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.280 And and then that's that's just that's coach speak. That's garbage, 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.399 you know that. Okay. I mean I'm not gonna argue. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.799 I mean I don't. I just that's who Nick Like, 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.080 that's who Nick is. That that's authentic Nick Foles. I mean, 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:21.080 that's who you're gonna get like that's his mindset. The 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.040 fans want to see somebody with a little more fire 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.960 in the beildy, Like you want to get up there 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.400 and like say, like just rip everybody and rip the 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:34.160 offensive line and the receivers and the defense. What do 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.960 you want to do then, Pete, just get don't start 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.440 talking about culture and building something. Time to get to 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.560 the good time. So nobody wants to hear that he 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.719 was asked the question. So you just rather when they 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.520 ask the question, say no, no comment. What was the 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:52.160 exact question? I don't remember, standp. I'll get to that. 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.000 You're gonna tell him that you should. You should set 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.040 up a service. You can just tell people what to 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:01.000 say based on the questions are asked. You what. That's 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.560 not a bad idea of you should be a consultant. 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.279 You should be an answer question consultant. Pete Prisco. If 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.080 you want to know what to say when you're asked 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.080 a question, Pete will tell you just don't give him 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.920 the everything's rosy scenario and we're building something in this. 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.600 I didn't hear everything's rosy. He said, it's hard right now, 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.640 we're not good enough. We need to get better. Like 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.600 what does he want? Like that's what he said. Apparently 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.239 the question there's not a full question. The official transcript 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.840 is basically on missing a couple of big plays to 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.120 his wide receivers early in the game, and it turned 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:45.279 into a long answer building character. What does that mean? Well, 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:46.840 I think he's saying they need to be better and 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.640 it's a process. And like you either when it's going 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.960 tough and it's going the wrong way. You can sit 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.600 there and be negative and complain and everything else nothing's 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.560 gonna change by doing that. Or you can go back 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.239 to work and be positive and keep on trying to 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.719 get better. That's why I think he's saying, like, I'm 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.279 not sure what's wrong with that. Now, if you just 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.359 want the short answer, you missed a couple of receivers. Yeah, 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.399 we missed, and we gotta make the place like that's it. 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.120 Then you guys will complain or he doesn't say enough. 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.520 And that's what he said in the first sentence of 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.520 the answer. It's part of the game sometimes where guys 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.279 making great, great catcher made and sometimes they're not. That's 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.440 why you keep firing away, keep trusting your guys. And 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.759 then they went on from there about still fighting and 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:30.240 doing all that. You understand we're a fan. Oh goshult 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.239 crap and they don't buy it. You know what a 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:39.319 good culture is. I don't blame the fans for being frustrated. 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.799 I don't at all. I never have if there's not 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.279 been I mean, I've been a pretty big advocate for 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.440 the fans. Like I get it, I don't like I 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.560 don't blame them for being frustrated. Let me ask you 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.960 guys this, I think I pretty frustrated this. I think 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.520 everybody is right now. I'm Doug Marone today in his 0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.880 conference call, reiterated that Nick Foles he fields, gives the 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.560 best Jaguars the best chance to win. Now, do you 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:10.160 guys agree with that? Pete? Um, that's to be determined. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.439 But you paid him that money, you might, like Tony said, 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.240 you might as well find out the next five games 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.200 what you got. What's the matter now? I mean the 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.480 ship is less support. You're standing on the dock looking 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:21.879 to get on, and all you could do is fall 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.719 in the order. That's about it. Well, I mean I 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.680 think it doesn't matter for the players. It matters for 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.319 the coaching staff because if and I'm not saying this 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.680 is gonna happen, I don't think it's gonna happen. Actually, 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:35.440 Um that if they could go win four or five games, 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.600 you get to eight and eight or nine seven, they 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.000 have a chance to see I'm just Pete. That's how 0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.879 used to think of. You're a coach though, right, But okay, Tony, 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.480 if they go seven and nine, I can say seven 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:47.840 and nine, I said, eight and eight or nine and 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:54.120 seven so you win four or five four, four or five. 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.439 I don't think they are. I don't think they're going 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.920 to Pete. I'm just telling you the mindset of a 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:01.919 coach or a player, that's how you have to think. 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.600 I mean you had like otherwise. If that's not how 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.520 you think, what are you doing at that point? Okay? 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.440 But does he give him the best shot to win? Um? 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.919 That's I thought for sure. I was a for sure yes. 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:25.720 Two weeks ago, I was a yes. Uh. Last week 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.560 I'm like down, like yes, I'm like on the fence. 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.319 I still would play him. I still start him because 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.239 I mean, I think you've invested, and I want to 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:36.960 find out what I have going because I have a 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.560 good idea what Mintshew is and what he can be. 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.680 So I'm at least the next couple of weeks stick 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:49.879 with Foals. Can they score some early points though? No, 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.720 Well we haven't done that all year, have we? Certainly 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.200 not recently? It's been a long time. That would help 0:41:56.239 --> 0:42:02.160 matters obviously. Well, I mean we scored three this week, 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:07.120 we scored seven last week, and we scored three the 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.600 week before. So in three first half we've scored thirteen points. Pete, 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:16.520 stop hitting your he's dialing out, he's dialing up a pizza. Yeah. 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.880 Three points last week, seven points in the first half 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.279 at and the three points in London against Houston. That's 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.120 thirteen points in three games. Yes it is. Let's talk 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:30.400 about the first talk about them the defense. But both 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.240 games it was they were in the games at halftime, 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.400 but they were in the game. No, it's this is 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.920 not just a defensive problem. The defense is not very good. 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.080 They can't stop the run. It is what it is. 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:50.040 The offense is not very good. They don't score points. Yeah, 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.080 I don't know. I just the question is legitimate. When 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.040 the fans say should they go back to Minsho, that's 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.239 a legitimate question. I think it's a fair question. I 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.520 have no problem with it. Doug made the and and 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.880 fans getting upset about the earing culture in the locker 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.480 room and building to something. You have a right to 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.120 get there upset with that too, because look, unlike Nick 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:14.000 Foles have just got here, They've been here. The fans 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.960 have every right to be upset. I'm not saying they shouldn't. 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.600 All I'm saying is what else do you want them 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.799 to say? This is who Nick Foles is, and he 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.920 didn't see anything wrong. He just said, like the stinks 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.560 right now, we're not very good. We have to get better. 0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.719 I'm choosing to be positive and this is how you 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.879 build the locker room. That's all he said. But then 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.600 he faced something similar last week too. Yeah, he was 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.319 talking about culture last week. This this week he was character. Yes, well, 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.279 we got the two seeds. There has to be the 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.080 third seed. Every good speech has three seeds. Were three points. 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:50.160 We got a culture, character, What's what's the one? I 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.440 don't think that. I don't think that. How about confidence? 0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:54.840 You know, if you have character and you build a culture, 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.520 you're gonna have a confident locker room. There's keep talking 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.120 about character, you keep talking about culture, and you don't 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.200 get better, and you and your talent isn't any good? 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.680 You be clappy? How about that? That could be a 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:10.120 c I like confident better. I will say there was 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.400 more balance in the offense yesterday. I think I think 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.200 d Philippo got the message from the head coach to 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:21.160 run the ball seven Russians or three of those from foals, 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.000 but twenty four by four nets for ninety seven yards, 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.799 and that's being down almost the entire second half. I 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.600 mean I think he had as many carries in the 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.040 Indie game, like by like the middle of the second quarter. 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.560 Um and I thought Letter four Nett really ran hard. 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.920 I mean, I thought he was physical, made some great 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.960 catches out of the backfield. I got nothing but respect 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.799 to how Leonard Fournette played that football game. And you 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.799 know what, he's done a pretty good job this year. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.279 I mean, you can't can't falt them. He's been one 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.600 of the pleasant surprises of this year. I mean, but 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.520 but Pete, this is how dare I say, inept the 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.719 offense has been. We now have three rushing touchdowns on 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:06.800 the year, and two of them came pretty much in 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.920 garbage time. It was garbage time, not pretty much. It 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.120 was the Titans. I mean, that is bad. No matter 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.879 what you said on the game broadcast, it was over. 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.600 What do you mean. We had three possessions, three touchdowns, 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.840 three two point conversions, a couple of onside kicks. We 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.480 were right back in it over. Yeah, you got excited, 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.600 and you got a little excited on the broadcast for 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:33.000 the fumble. Well, yeah, well that was that was We 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:37.440 were still in at that point. I think it was 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:42.040 that was It was still like twenty it was three. 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.520 I thought the fumble came when it made it thirty five, 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:51.920 and then they went down and made I don't remember why. 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.719 Why was Richardson a healthy scratch Because they wanted to 0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:00.279 start Dante Vius Russell to get bigger people on the 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.759 field to stop the run. They didn't want to start him. 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.080 They just wanted to have him at me, not start. 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:05.920 They want him active so he could be in the rotation. 0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:13.440 Confirmed that again. Here's another question. I had Miles Jacket 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:19.040 hurt for bench hurt hurt his knee, well, I don't 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.799 know how bad. There was no update from that. There 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.120 was no update he had. You could tell he was 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.040 visibly limping, went to the sideline, came out with a sleeve. 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.200 Rick Blue reported from the sideline had a sleeve put 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.759 on his knee or something, and you could tell that 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.160 he was favoring his right knee. Now what the injury is, 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.440 we were not told. There was no official announcement, but 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.720 when the game it was clearly over, he was taken 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.400 out and uh Donald Payne came in. But by the way, 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.319 a couple of things from yesterday. They found out that 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:56.879 Andrew wind guarded a special teams player only Thanks, what's next? 0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.800 What's the next thing? What else did you stay your captain? 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.279 Captain obvious? Is that captain obvious? Well, you have to 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.560 have a backup safety before the field play, can't you? Well, 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.399 I mean you're gonna make the judgment of the kid 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:14.200 because of one game he was dreadful. What was the next? 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.200 Hold on? You're saying he was the only bad guy 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.520 who had no no. If that's the case, then there's 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:22.040 a lot of guys that you can say that about. 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.480 Here's a question I wanted to ask to say that 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:27.520 he thought he had somebody on help and nobody was 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.799 there after the game, kind of called somebody out. Who'd 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.640 be talking about? I don't know, but there the quote 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:39.200 he had alluded to, um miscommunication, miss a line, guys 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.480 missed the line. Before we go to break on if 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.600 the team feels prepared entering games at this point in 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.040 the season, A J boy said this in the locker room. 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.759 I felt prepared. It just frustrates me when you see 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.080 something in practice, you know somebody is going to be there, 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.799 and then it doesn't happen in a game. Yeah, then 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:58.440 he moves on to other things. Yes, so let's come back. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.960 It sounds like to take. So who do you think 0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.239 it was? I don't know. It's hard to tell. Like 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.160 a couple of times I thought just a j just 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:09.359 got beat by Brown. Let's come back. We'll delve into that. 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.320 We'll look at the remaining schedule for the Jaguars as well. Okay, 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.160 we'll see if you want to lock some games. 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The goal is not even 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.640 just they're not even competing in these forget about competing. 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.960 The goal is to win and have an opportunity to 0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.520 win the FC South every year. To get into the tournament. 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:36.319 You get in the tournament, you're gonna win. You have 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.520 chances to win the party trophies. Get enough of those chances, 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.960 you're gonna win your your lock are You're taking a 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.000 lot of beat beating around town for lock in the 0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:48.640 seventh straight. I'm taking beatings for everything. I mean I 0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.840 get accused of. I mean, name it, I get blamed 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.200 for it. I saw some stuff coming at you on 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.640 Twitter today. Yeah, keep ringing it please, I love it. 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.000 I mean, we're gonna have a great segment when you 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:06.120 get to those questions because because they came at you today. 0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.840 I love name calling. That's the maturity levels very high. 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.359 Oh yeah, it's terrible on Twitter. But I mean, look, 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.960 you understand, and I know you do because you've been 0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:17.920 around there as long as long as the franchise has 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.279 been there. It's frustrating for the fans. They're frustrated. They 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:24.759 should be. I mean, I'm frustrated. I'm like, do you 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:27.759 not like I don't. I have not talked to one 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:32.760 person in this organization that is that is happy. No, 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:37.520 everyone's frustrated, like like the fans don't have a like 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.560 a market, have not cornered the market, and frustration of losing, 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.040 like I think everyone is frustrated in this organization, and 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.560 the fans every right to be frustrated. But they never 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:50.840 got to finish my assets. We had, we listed, you listed, 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.000 Josh Allen. I think we got to the end right, 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.080 we didn't the right the right tackles an asset. Very 0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.600 good player, Okay, Dan Tyler is an asset. I cameras. 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.319 I think I think Cam Robinson. I mean you look 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.560 at left tackle. I mean he's, you know, a good 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:10.040 young player. Um, he's improved this year. Is your long 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.799 term left tackle? I think he has an opportunity. Yeah, 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.560 he's improved. I think WARP has done a very good 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.719 job with him. Um coming off to a c L 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:23.359 as well, Like yeah, um, I still think lenders you 0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:26.239 know in the you know, top half of centers in 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.080 this league. I mean Pete, you watch offensive lines. Yeah, 0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:33.480 he's he's a solid player. He's probably not I mean again, 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.080 and I go back to the contract's not worth what 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:37.759 he's making. But he's a solid player. But he's on 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.480 your team now. But I'm saying, you gotta when you're 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.319 looking at assets and liabilities, you gotta look at what 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.959 they're making, and you have to also have to find 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:47.960 make sure you can replace him with an equal or 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:53.880 better player, or cheaper option is just as good. Did 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.960 I not just say that it does equal? Not just 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.920 as good? Are you? If he equal and he's cheaper, 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.760 he's better? Are you that dense? So if he's equal 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.200 and he's cheaper, he's better. What did you do this weekend? Like? 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.239 Do I mean, do you have a long night? If 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.680 we're equal player and he's cheaper, it's probably better option 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:19.000 for Let me repeat what I said. You don't get 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.840 a rid of anybody unless you can find someone equal 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:24.920 or better. You want to say it's slower so you 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.719 can understand it because you just repeated what exactly what 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.319 I said. Okay, we're going through the assets, and you're 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.720 dancing around the question. I'm not the answering to the question. 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:38.479 I just answered it. How many legitimate assets is somebody 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:41.320 who takes over this team have on this roster? Eight? 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:49.240 A right logan cook, punter is an asset? Josh, please please, 0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:52.000 when you start talking about special teams players being an assets, 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:57.480 you're reaching Okay out there, special teams players being assets. 0:55:57.480 --> 0:55:59.000 That means we have to go to break and we'll 0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:05.560 come back with a second an hour blocking seven straight 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.640 victories right there. I was just trying to wow. I 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:10.440 was trying to find more than eight. Hey could be 0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.200 a pro bowler. I'll say this. I'll give you one 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:16.000 more real quick and this will drive to Twitter nation crazy. 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.719 Andrew Norwell is playing good football. He's in the top table. 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.000 He I bet you if you judge, I bet she's 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.919 in the top ten, top fifteen offensive guards in this league. 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.120 That's an acid back. 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At the end of all this, you build 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:56.840 something special and hopefully someday you can look back, um, 0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:59.800 once you've had success, after going through these trials, and 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.320 you're not gonna look at the trophy. You're gonna look 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.600 at the people you did it with and say, Man, 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:06.880 this is special because of what we went through to 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.280 get there. Not oh man, it's a shining trophy that 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.440 just happened. No, that that that comes after a lot 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:14.640 of trials and a lot of character building moments, um 1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:16.439 within the locker room, and that's what we're going through. 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:20.880 Nick Foles of the postgame Press, if you say that 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:25.520 the trophy is coming, that's what I heard? That is 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:28.000 that what you heard there? Well? He said the trials 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:35.160 and the tribulations and the trophy is coming. I think 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:36.800 that was an extension of the same answer we had 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:41.840 with all those assets in five years, there's more assets. 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.000 I mean, I mean you can go through like Pete, 1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:47.200 let's do the same thing. Like the Houston Texans. I 1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.800 mean you can do like, well, they got the quarterback assets, 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:51.960 so that kind of solves about ten of them. Okay, 1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:55.000 but my point is you can go through every team 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:59.080 like the way you were describing an asset like it's 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:03.360 very narrow, is my point. But you can't really count 1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:05.720 and Gogway has an asset because you don't want what 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.200 you're gonna do with you don't know what you're gonna 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:08.680 do with him. Well, he's still an asset. He's on 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:12.680 your roster. Pete, you can I AM a mega contract 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.800 to keep him and make him keep continue to being 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:16.840 an asset. By the way, you don't have to sign 1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:23.640 as a franchise jack and asset. Um. He has been 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:27.200 the way he's playing as of late. No, No, he 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.440 has not been, by the way Pro Football Focus has. 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:34.480 Andrew Norwell is the eighteenth graded gardener league, which isn't bad. Okay, 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:37.680 there's there's only sixty four of them, and he played 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:40.520 the best they had him. Raided is the best offensive line. 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:42.640 Andrew nor Well has played good football this year. I 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:45.000 don't care what anyone says. He had an awful play, 1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:48.280 and awful play like that. Everyone wants to hang their 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:52.120 hat on in Carolina, and he makes a bowload of money, 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.480 so they always pick him on it. Right, He's playing 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:57.480 good football. Play good football again this I thought he 1:01:57.520 --> 1:01:59.800 played well on the tape. Andrew do Well is a 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:02.800 good football player. I don't care what anyone says. Let's 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.720 touch on the hot topics today. Of course. The run 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:10.880 defense horrible again. Two hundred nineteen yards. That's six nine 1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:13.800 nine yards allowed on the ground over the last three games, 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:17.600 all division games, all twenty point losses or more if 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:21.000 I'm not mistaken too. The only it was actually two 1:02:21.120 --> 1:02:25.800 twenty two before they took so they really have given 1:02:25.880 --> 1:02:33.280 up seven two yards. Yeah, that's right, of course, last demoralizing. 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:35.360 Giving up a hundred and fifty yards in a game 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:38.040 is demoralizing. Where do we rush? Where do we rank 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.600 in the NFL now? On rush defense twenty nine and 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:42.600 they're last in the league in the yards per carry. 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:47.880 That's good. I mean, like Ronald Jones has done very 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:49.760 little for the Bucks. He's got to be smiling all 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:54.120 week long this week. Yeah, I mean, if you don't 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:56.280 know his name, you you might at this rate, you 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.760 might know it by Sunday evening. And yeah, and the 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:02.200 Bucks don't give him enough carey where they do. Well, 1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:04.880 the good news is, you know, Bruce arians loves throwing 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:07.439 it around the yard. Jamis will give you a couple. 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:09.520 And Jamis is gonna throw you a couple. Now. Whether 1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:12.840 we catch or not, I'm not sure, but they're coming. 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:16.280 They a tody. The Bucks haven't made a decision on 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.560 Jamis yet, but as he gets ready to come to town, 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:21.880 I'm gonna ask you right now, who's a better quarterback, 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:26.520 Jamis or Nick Foles? Nick Foles stop it. He doesn't 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:28.520 turn it over, Pete. That you cannot do that in 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:32.120 that position, doesn't score points either, Yeah, Jamie, look at 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:34.200 the points the Bucks have scored this year. Look at 1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:37.720 the turnovers, Pete. You don't win. Okay. What's what's the 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:41.960 Bucks record? Well, I mean the defense. You talk about 1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:44.479 a bad defense, Well, look at our defense. Where's ring Pete? 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:47.560 What's their record? Okay? But at least they score what's 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:51.160 their record? They're not good? What is it? They score points? 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:55.560 What is what are they? And there four and seven 1:03:55.560 --> 1:03:58.160 the exact same things. The Jaguars, well, they score points 1:03:58.160 --> 1:04:00.360 though they're competitive and gay and he knows it to 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:05.040 the wrong team and they lose. They're competitive because he 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:08.880 could throw it around the yard. They lost to Seattle 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:14.800 in overtime forty thirty four. Question, yeah, they lost to 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:22.360 the Titans. Also the Panthers thirty on the Saints and lost. 1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:24.800 Is there a tight on the tight end on this 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:28.040 roster as good as oj Howard? He doesn't do anything. 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:31.040 I was asking the question, is there what does he 1:04:31.120 --> 1:04:33.160 do for them? He does nothing. Is there a receiver 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:37.920 as good as Mike Evans, No, there's not a receiver 1:04:37.960 --> 1:04:41.560 as good as Chris Godwin either. Shark isn't as good 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:46.240 as Godwin? No he is not. Okay, does that help? 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:49.720 But their defense is pathetic and they score points. Yes, 1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:52.720 he turns it over, but they score points. They this 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:54.960 team in two games when Nick Foles has not scored 1:04:55.000 --> 1:04:59.680 any points. Tony, is our defens good? No? Okay? Then 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:01.040 why do you keep on bringing up the Bucks? The 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:03.720 problem that my point is because the point is their 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:06.360 defense thinks, just like Jacksonville's defense thinks. And the point 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.200 is that they're doing. They both have the point and 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:10.480 they both have the same record. They score points, but 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:15.720 they turn it over. At least they can score points. Great, congratulations, 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:17.560 score all the points you want and have the same 1:05:17.600 --> 1:05:21.760 losing record because you turn it over. There have they 1:05:21.880 --> 1:05:26.840 been more competitive in games? Rule number one? Rule number one, 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:32.160 don't turn it over? Rule number one score touchdowns? Okay, 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:34.880 I'm kind of with Pete on this, both four and seven. 1:05:34.920 --> 1:05:40.320 What does it matter you lose games? Would folds? And 1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:44.280 I said, Folds right now? You know what if we 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:46.760 had that lie detector hooked up to your body right now, 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:51.400 it will be zapping all over the not true. Will 1:05:51.480 --> 1:05:58.200 you take twenty eight points with two interceptions right now? Points? Two? Yeah? 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:01.960 Old day long you would how many touchdowns? Is he 1:06:02.000 --> 1:06:07.720 gonna throw four like he did yesterday? Through three? Yeah? 1:06:07.760 --> 1:06:10.840 But he through three picks? Didn't he to two picks? 1:06:11.640 --> 1:06:14.520 Would you take twenty eight points? Four touchdowns through the 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:17.919 air and two interceptions from a Jaguars quarterback? Where where 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:20.960 are the touch that? World doesn't matter? Where looking at 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:22.240 the box score at the end of the day, where 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:25.480 the interceptions thrown, because that matters, because let me give up, 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:29.480 I forget about how many don't forget JP, you can't 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:34.440 how many touchdown passes did Nick fole story yesterday? That 1:06:35.160 --> 1:06:40.880 none done? That's kind of my point. Pete, you're JP. 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:44.240 We got him back into the corner and we're just 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:46.680 I'm right crossing him and you're left right, we're just 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:49.439 over the top, bang batty against the ropes. He's going 1:06:49.520 --> 1:06:52.760 down like Deonte Wilder. It's gonna be a knockout here soon. Oh, 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:55.400 I can tell you is you can't win games in 1:06:55.440 --> 1:06:58.640 this league turning it over? Look? Should you? Is it 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:01.640 better to not turn it? Were? Absolutely? Is it better 1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:03.600 to score twenty eight points than score the craft that 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:06.200 the Jaguars and was scoring? You bet? How many? Just 1:07:06.240 --> 1:07:08.400 how many ten to seven games you're gonna win? As 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:10.479 many games you're gonna win throwing two or three picks 1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:12.480 every game like Jamis does? How many picks does he 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:16.600 have on the ear? And Pete here anything? This is 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:20.800 why it's a dumb conversation. The conversation is idiotic because 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:22.760 you know as well as I do, you can't win 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:24.520 with either if you don't score points and if you 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:27.880 turn it over, it doesn't matter. And so you're arguing 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:30.400 for a guy who is a terrible win loss record 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:33.360 and throws it to the wrong guy and more than 1:07:33.560 --> 1:07:36.280 the only reason there's not ten more picks because defensive 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:41.280 guys can't catch Jamis Winston two touchdown passes interception. How mean, 1:07:41.400 --> 1:07:45.200 come on, Pete, are you kidding me? Twenty yards? Pete? 1:07:47.400 --> 1:07:50.760 I don't care. In a league where it is no 1:07:50.800 --> 1:07:54.520 one throws twenty picks anymore, nobody. He's also been sacked 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:57.520 thirty six times. I mean, come on, Pete, you're wrong here, 1:07:57.720 --> 1:08:00.680 You're wrong. No. I look, he eight I get picked 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:03.560 off a ton, and that's a bad thing for him. 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:08.040 He's still he still scores points. I don't care. I 1:08:08.080 --> 1:08:11.000 don't care. He throws picks. And the only reason you 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.960 have thirty five picks because defensive guys can't catch. I've 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:19.880 done his games. Like like, you're arguing for a guy 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:22.160 to be your starting quarterback that throws twenty picks in 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:26.160 today's NFL, which is unheard of, arguing for him to 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:28.360 be the starting quarterback anywhere. I'm just proving a point 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:31.320 that he isn't any worse than the quarterback this he's 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:37.320 Jacksonville is No, he's not. I know you know you're wrong. 1:08:37.720 --> 1:08:39.880 You know, no, you're wrong. You can't win turning the 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:42.519 ball over. You can't. Who's who scored a ton of 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:45.960 points in this league so far this year? The Bucks? 1:08:46.000 --> 1:08:49.879 And what's the record of the Bucks? The defense is pathetic? 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:56.839 And yeah, and the Jaguars Bears? Are you you're scoring points? 1:08:56.880 --> 1:08:59.800 You're honestly talking in circles now. It doesn't matter, Pete, 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:02.160 but both four and seven. By the way, the Winston 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:05.400 leads the league and picks he leads. He leads every 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:12.400 league like college XFL, UFL, a FL, CFL, EVERYFL. He 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:17.559 leads to the wrong guy every times. Where do they 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:26.400 get scoring? Jp? Pete? Who cares or no? For the gate? 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:32.800 The objects of the game is to win. How many points? Know? 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:35.280 The object is to win? How many points in the 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:40.840 Patriots score? Yesterday? The defense hold on, I'm asking a question. 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:44.959 How many points in the Patriots score? How many touchdowns? 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:49.360 The top Rady throw one? No, they scored. They blocked 1:09:49.400 --> 1:09:51.680 the punt the score. Oh he didn't. He threw a 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:54.120 touchdout past and to kill Harry. Okay, so oh, you're right, 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:56.320 that's right after the pun buck punt, So he threw one. 1:09:57.320 --> 1:10:00.280 How many yards he throw for Pete? How many? Yeah? 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:03.080 How many? Where? Where is he ranking total touchdowns? This year? 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:08.080 He's playing with a general guess what? And he doesn't 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:09.960 turn it over, so he doesn't put his defensive bad 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:13.160 positions and they win by the way ten football games. 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:16.080 Tampa Bay is third in the league and scoring yeah great, 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:23.479 and they stink the defensive steaks. Baltimore and San Franz 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:27.360 scores more than Tampa. Guys there four and seven because 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:30.920 the quarterback turns the ball over. That's why they can't 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:34.000 win four and seven. Because he turns the ball over, yes, 1:10:34.400 --> 1:10:36.519 kind of four and seven because the defense is awful. 1:10:37.320 --> 1:10:39.840 Then you can have him Pete. Build your team around that. 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:41.679 I'm not saying I don't want to build my team 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:43.559 around him. I'm just saying I think he's just every bit, 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:45.760 if not better than fools. So you said you'd rather, 1:10:45.920 --> 1:10:48.719 I'll take folds because I can win with a quarterback 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:51.639 who throws one touchdown and no interceptions. I can't win 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.599 with the guy who throws two, three, four or five 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:58.240 interceptions a game. Put the poll out there, Twitter, what 1:10:58.280 --> 1:11:02.040 do you guys think, come at the Celly Winston, take 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:04.759 you and let me know. The last time a fan 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:07.960 pole about what quarterback to pick is is like how 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:12.280 you're supposed to build a team. I mean, honestly, Pete, 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:14.439 that's why you know what, that's why you work in 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:17.200 the media, and that's all you should do, because you 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:20.600 honestly should do nothing but right for a website, and 1:11:20.640 --> 1:11:25.000 that's what you do. Winst is a lot cheaper, No 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:30.000 he's not. He's making nineteen twenty million this year, but 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:32.519 he doesn't have that big hook of guaranteed money that 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:34.720 somebody else has got next year. It goes back to 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:37.519 the money. Don't don't be throwing that media argument. You're 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:39.400 part of the media. To no, I am, But like 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:45.280 I can do other things, Pete couldn't like what. You're 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.280 a broken down old man like I am. Now what 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:50.840 are you talking? I got other business interests. Yeah, but 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:53.320 once upon a time you were actually a football player 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:54.800 and a damn good one. But now you're a broken 1:11:54.800 --> 1:11:58.439 down old man in the media. Just like we're different, 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:03.000 we're on the same team. Tone no, no, I listen, listen. 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:05.040 You know what I live by your motto when it 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:08.599 comes to the media, there might be no I in team, 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:13.040 but there's an M and E me. I'm the same way. 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:16.520 I don't follow the masses in the media, do im? 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.080 You sometimes do? You're Olliver Jams, He's the great you 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:22.240 think you think? Do you think I'm the guy that 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.240 sits there? And let these Hall of Fame boaters tell 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:29.400 me that you were blocking it for a quarterback? Now 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:32.320 you love him again. That's when we're on the same team, Pete. 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:42.320 Now we're on the same team that there's nothing, by 1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:44.599 the way, there's nothing more infuriating to me than when 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:46.720 I hear some buffoon on that whole fame and he 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:50.599 who says that, who cares? I'm already I'm already mad enough. 1:12:50.680 --> 1:12:53.400 Let's not go down that path. Are we preparing you 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.360 for the But no, you're getting in this year, So 1:12:55.439 --> 1:13:00.400 let's let everybody celebrate, celebrate. Well, let's let's just focus 1:13:00.439 --> 1:13:02.360 on the Jags right now. Is that well, it's just 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:04.240 not gonna be the celebration Tony thought it was when 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:07.080 he thought the Jaguars we're gonna be in Miami two 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:10.360 weeks ago, planning dinner, right, We're gonna go out of 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:18.560 the South Beach. Remember that runway. Whatever those still on 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:22.920 the reservation, we go, we can go. Okay, I don't 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:25.360 think the team will be there. Okay, I think I 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:27.920 think we meet you and Pete. You know you don't 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:31.680 think they get locked the next five, Tony Pete. As 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:34.640 I said before, I'm done in the locked business. The 1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:37.840 locks are in the trash and in all serious if 1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:39.559 they don't, if they play the way they've been playing, 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:41.720 they're not gonna win any games. Let's put it this way. 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:45.040 You'd be more apt to lock them not winning another 1:13:45.120 --> 1:13:47.040 game than you would be them winning the next five. 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:52.639 Based on what I've seen. Yes, yeah, me too. Let's 1:13:52.680 --> 1:13:56.680 come back. Hey, guess what you're depressed? Now? Wait till 1:13:56.760 --> 1:13:59.600 social media questions? There's nothing, there's nothing that I have 1:13:59.680 --> 1:14:03.519 already see. You're on fire on Twitter today. Told me, 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:08.720 all right, I just there's some great questions. Most of the 1:14:08.680 --> 1:14:11.400 the fans are amazing, just amazing people. Some of them 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:15.000 that are like gorness. All right, we'll get your full 1:14:15.040 --> 1:14:17.840 thoughts on that when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:29.680 Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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T 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.000 I A A Bank is a division of t I 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:23.599 a A FSP member fd I c A, the official 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:42.120 bank of the Jacksonville Jaguars Club, trying to file out. 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:48.240 I mean, uh, tough loss of day. I mean you 1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:50.920 can't rememberly put it in words. I mean a couple 1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:53.840 of a police be needed. We didn't make on both 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:56.479 sides of the football. Well, I got, like I told 1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:58.800 the guys, Uh, this is a step of st fill 1:17:58.840 --> 1:18:01.960 out of us. You know what I mean. Uh, you 1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:04.439 work a glass off going out of practice. Some ma 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:06.640 entis season and when we didn't get the results too 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:08.360 if he wanted and then we need it, you know. 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.160 But you know you get that. My spirit is kind 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:13.120 of high. And I mean it's not about touchdowns. I 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:15.559 like none of that. But I think, uh I talk 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:17.880 I had last week my dad, you know, because I 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:21.720 kind of player perspective, you know what I mean. We 1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:25.559 always could be, always could be worse. What it for 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:27.960 that in the locker room after the laws in Nashville. 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:32.280 Great beer to one of the best beards. No, that's positive. 1:18:32.280 --> 1:18:35.519 It's a great beer. But he played well. He did, 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:38.120 he did, He might he might actually be on his 1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:41.320 way to the Pro Bowl. He's gonna have a chance 1:18:41.320 --> 1:18:44.160 for sure. Sure, how many yards is herever. Now, uh, 1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:48.000 just under a thousand. I think like he's like fifty 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:53.040 yards under a thousand nine yards, So you know, if 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.000 he scores more touchdowns and I think he's an automatic. 1:18:56.200 --> 1:18:58.240 Well look at this though, I mean, he has four 1:18:58.280 --> 1:19:01.559 point six yards to carry. He already has fifty six 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:04.080 receptions in the year, so he's gonna he's gonna end 1:19:04.160 --> 1:19:10.880 up with over seventy receptions um and probably about yards. 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:15.479 That's a good year. Yeah, six in the league in 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:19.760 rushing yardage, third in the league in scrimmage yards. By 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:21.280 the way, well where's he ranking the a f C 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:23.439 in rushing yards. That's how you have to do it. 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:29.559 Four fourth in the f C and rushing yard So yeah, 1:19:29.800 --> 1:19:32.240 he's doing He's having a very good Guys ahead of 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:35.360 him in rushing yards are Nick Chubb, Derrick Henry, Josh 1:19:35.439 --> 1:19:39.559 Jacobs a good player and by the way, good players 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:42.240 playing on playoff contenders, So they're gonna get more play 1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:45.679 down the run. And Jacobs might not because he's a rookie, 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:48.479 but Henry will for sure. So well, Chubb's not really 1:19:48.479 --> 1:19:51.240 a playoff contender. Well, they're five, and they're five and six, 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:54.320 and they've got a favorable schedule right coming up. Yeah, 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:57.920 very they have the easiest schedule in the NFL. And 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:01.080 Chubb's got seven touchdowns, Henry has ten and Jacobs has seven. 1:20:01.520 --> 1:20:04.600 Nick Chubb is probably the best back I've seen this 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:10.400 year pure um Christian McCaffrey. Nick Chubb is the best 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:15.360 pure running back. Christi McCaffrey is the best offensive non 1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:18.120 quarterback player because of what he can do out of 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:25.280 the backfield catching the ball. Nick Jobs is unreal. Let's 1:20:25.520 --> 1:20:31.240 get to social questions. Your favorite Tony certainly pizza, good stuff, 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:34.519 good stuff. Let's start here with at no toes down. 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:37.000 Can we change the name of this show to Jaguar's 1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:41.519 Crappy Hour? What about Jaguar's Slappy Hour? Either way, this 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:48.080 team is brutal well like what is not bad? I'm 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:50.719 not sure why we are getting lumped in with crappy 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:54.479 Slappy Hour, But listen, if I had to choose between 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:57.840 crappy or slappy, I'd have to go with crappy Hour 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:00.599 because if you're a slappy, it's hard to be overcome 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:03.280 that you just might be a slappy your whole life. Like, 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:07.320 if you're a crappy, you can get better, Like Joe 1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:11.760 is slappy and so like he's just like he's been 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:14.360 slappy since I've met him. I'm sorry, but I've never 1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:17.320 heard anybody call me slappy. But I've heard many people 1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:20.960 refer to you as slappy. I haven't. Maybe it must 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.960 be behind my back. No, right to your face, that's 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:27.559 not true. Crappy, you can get better, So i'd have 1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:31.400 to choose crappy. You have to go with one. Pete, Yeah, 1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:34.559 cradle like crappy. You don't you want to go slappy? 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:40.200 You are a slap so yeah, crappy means just stink. Well, 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:45.800 slap means that's just like you are a slap blank. Yeah, yeah, 1:21:46.000 --> 1:21:47.800 maybe I don't know. They're Neither one of them is 1:21:47.920 --> 1:21:50.679 very good, to be honest. But Crappy, we can get better, Pete, 1:21:51.120 --> 1:21:54.360 we can get the stink off us. I don't think 1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:57.280 us into this category of the team. And that's not 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:59.840 fair to us. Well, you know what, life's not fair. 1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:03.240 You gotta hey, listen, we're in this together. I'll go 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:07.720 down with the ship. Let's go. I'm not going down 1:22:07.720 --> 1:22:11.960 with anybody's ship because you're so. I'm getting a life 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:14.120 raft and I'm getting the hell out of it. Like yeah, no, 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:17.000 women and children. My ass. I'm going first. That's what 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:20.479 Pete's going When the Titanic was going down, Pete jumps, 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:25.760 threw ladies out of the way, babies, everything. That's I'm 1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:28.320 going on that quick, playing quick, playing the dan violent. 1:22:28.360 --> 1:22:30.280 I'm getting on the boat. How about when you're like 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:32.320 in then exit row of a plane and they go, okay, 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:34.280 have a problem. You're gonna be the first one open 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:35.960 the door. You open the door and go right on out, 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:39.439 is what I'm doing. Yeah, No, I'm helping the women 1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:42.960 and child are not first, Pete. That's why you're a slap. 1:22:43.600 --> 1:22:46.519 That's help the women and children. I don't think you 1:22:46.520 --> 1:22:50.320 would actually if I'm being really honest. All right, question, 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:53.000 next question, let's got next social question number two at 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:55.720 Duval calling. Should the Jaguars clean house in the front 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:59.360 office and coaching staff this offseason? With four first round 1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:02.080 picks in the next two years, the timing feels right. 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:04.320 If so, who would be your pick for the next 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.200 head coach? Pete? Are you going for left witch? A 1:23:07.200 --> 1:23:12.639 lot of questions here, so I know you can answer 1:23:12.640 --> 1:23:14.400 the coach question. I'm gonna give you. I'll give you 1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:17.720 my opinion on the first part. That is the decision 1:23:17.880 --> 1:23:21.360 of Tom Coughlin. So Tom Coughlin has to start that process. 1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:26.080 He's the head of the football ops. All that I mean, 1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:27.679 that's I don't think he's going to be a part 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.840 of it. Well, but he is right now, Pete. So 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:32.639 the question is today, not tomorrow, not a week from now, 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:35.559 not five weeks now. The person asks us today, what 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:39.120 is going to happen? That is Tom Coffin will have 1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:43.000 to make that decision as he evaluates the entire football 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:47.559 side of the organization is going to make that decision, 1:23:47.560 --> 1:23:49.120 and Tom is gonna be a part of it. Well, 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.240 I know, but that's not Wait wait a second, that 1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:54.400 makes no sense to me, just based on what Shan 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:57.040 has told us three years ago, based on how the 1:23:57.040 --> 1:24:02.640 rest of the organization works. Shadd hires the head of 1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:06.000 Football ops, vice president football, senior vice president of football. 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:09.760 He runs football, hired the president, Mark Lamping, he runs 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:14.920 the Bay decision. They're gonna make a decision to keep 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:17.720 Tom and get rid of everybody else. Well, that's like 1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:19.640 Tom has to come with the plan and this is 1:24:19.680 --> 1:24:22.960 where it doesn't make the decision. Will make the decision. Well, 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:25.519 right now, that's not how right now the decision. So 1:24:25.560 --> 1:24:29.240 you're saying he can't change his mind. Oh sure, he 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:32.679 like he is, like he owns the team. But I'm saying, 1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:36.680 if you look at the football operations today, it is 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:40.600 Tom Conflin's responsibility for what happens on that side of 1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:44.160 the building. So before it keeps saying that we get that, 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:46.960 but he might be part of the problem. Okay, well 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:50.519 then that, but then that is the responsibility of the 1:24:50.560 --> 1:24:52.320 owner to make a decision. But right now where we 1:24:52.360 --> 1:24:56.439 sit today, if you're looking at football, we're talking about football, 1:24:56.800 --> 1:24:58.720 and the question is asked about the football side of 1:24:58.720 --> 1:25:01.040 the building and that this is gonna be Tom making 1:25:01.080 --> 1:25:03.599 that decision. Guys, what like, where does that until he's 1:25:03.640 --> 1:25:08.519 told he can no longer make it? When they ask 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:11.639 clean house, that's the first thing I think is top 1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:15.719 down everybody, So the question no, But then that's the question. 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:19.400 The question should have read, is Tom conflan getting fired. No, 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:21.240 The question should have read in the cleaning house And 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:24.240 the answer is yes. That means everybody goes. But Pete, 1:25:24.360 --> 1:25:28.840 you're you're missing it? Are No, you are because the 1:25:28.840 --> 1:25:32.479 way the organization is set up, Tom Coughlin makes that 1:25:32.560 --> 1:25:35.920 decision but if he's part of the problem, he's not 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:40.760 making a decision. But here, Tom, you go ahead, you 1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:42.840 hire a coach that you want to hire, and then 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:44.439 we'll get rid of you and hire a new new 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:48.120 executive vice president for ball operations. No, no, Pete, that 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:49.920 doesn't how it works. Tom will come up with the 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:52.760 plan of saying this is what this is where we 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:56.720 are here, shot, here's the plan, fire me and everybody. 1:25:56.760 --> 1:26:00.360 What's the plan for him? Where's the plan for Tom? Pete? 1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:05.200 Let me know when you're done talking. Don't explain he 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.320 failed me out on this one because he's way off base. Here, 1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:09.800 I'll tell you I'm off base. This is how the 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:12.040 organization set up. Tom will come up with a plan 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:14.160 of what he's happening in football. Now Sean doesn't like 1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:17.200 the plan, Yeah, obviously he's gonna saying no, that's not 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.040 a plan. I believe it. I think that's what was 1:26:19.080 --> 1:26:21.639 asked in the question clean house. And then but when 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:23.880 we sit the day before you get to that point, 1:26:24.000 --> 1:26:25.760 I mean, doesn't don't you give the guy who's in 1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:28.360 charge of football a chance to make a put a 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:32.400 plan together, Not when he's not, when he's not, when 1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:34.760 he's perceived to be and assumed to be and and 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:38.599 is part of the problem. So you're saying Tom's the problem. 1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:41.519 I'm saying the whole thing is a problem. Like I 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:44.080 said earlier, I love the guy he's been. He's a 1:26:44.080 --> 1:26:45.840 Hall of Fame coach. He will go into the Hall 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:48.479 of Fame. He's a Hall of Fame man. But let's 1:26:48.479 --> 1:26:51.479 be real. This team is not built to be a 1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:58.920 sustainable contender as is, and ultimately that falls on Tom. Okay, fair, Okay, fine, 1:26:58.960 --> 1:27:01.559 if you want to position in that way, the question 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:03.400 is what do you do? And I said it has 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:07.280 to start with what Tom's gonna do, and obviously it 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:10.559 all followed on him. He's the problem. Okay, we're going 1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:12.760 around and around circles. Now, Pizza, tell me what about 1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:15.200 the left? Which they ask you about left? Which I don't. 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:17.240 I don't think bar I think Barbe is going to 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:19.360 be a heck of a head coach in this league. 1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:21.840 I'm not sure he doesn't need another year calling plays 1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:25.519 and working with Bruce Matt Rule would be one of 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:27.599 the guys I would look at the head beacher failor 1:27:27.640 --> 1:27:30.160 who the Jets tried to hire last year. I think 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:32.759 he's a rising profession. Hey, if you want to shoot 1:27:32.800 --> 1:27:37.320 for the moon, go pride Lincoln Riley away from Oklahoma. 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:41.760 Next question at Rachel f l A, Why did we 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:44.479 go into this season with no depth in any position? 1:27:44.600 --> 1:27:54.040 Systemic failures for over ten years, pet Um, You can 1:27:54.080 --> 1:27:57.400 only have so much depth when you don't draft well. 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:02.519 And that's the answer. Yeah, I haven't drafted well. That's why. 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:07.599 Now that that's a very broad statement. Obviously they've gotten 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:11.719 some right, but just overall, I mean that's a general statement, 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:15.040 and we're not because the break there. Think. Okay, let's 1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:18.880 be honest. This year's draft looks pretty good too. I 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:20.640 always say it's too early to make a judgment of 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:24.200 a draft after one year, especially midway through the year. 1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:25.880 You can't make that judgment. Pete. You don't know that 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:29.519 look pretty good until the time you just called. You 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:32.840 just called Taylor an asset. So that's it. You saw 1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:35.240 Josh Allen is an asset and there's two giants. Two 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:36.920 of the major assets on the team came in that 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:39.040 draft as of right now. I agree. Okay, I ask 1:28:39.080 --> 1:28:40.640 you a question. Sixteen was supposed to be like the 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:45.439 greatest draft ever. Let's go through the sixteen draft. Jalen Ramsey, No, 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:47.920 no longer here, Myles Jack we got you got assets 1:28:47.960 --> 1:28:49.640 back for him, so it's kind of a wash. But 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:53.880 go ahead, Jalen, I mean Miles Jacks. That one hasn't 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:58.519 worked out. Okay, uh In Gockway was third, Yes, in 1:28:58.640 --> 1:29:05.840 gock Way worth the pick. Yeah, but okay, Sen NFL Draft, 1:29:05.920 --> 1:29:09.160 Sheldon Day, He's not even here. Go ahead, defensive tackle 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:15.000 Tyrone Holmes. Remember, keep going. Brandon Allen quarterback, not even here, 1:29:15.080 --> 1:29:17.040 starting for the Broncos. We caught him, go ahead and 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:20.519 not very good and not very good. Jonathan Woodard defensive end, 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.240 central arking, So don't even remember. That's it. So my 1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:25.960 point is, you have one player on the roster, what 1:29:26.000 --> 1:29:29.120 about the seventeen draft. But but here's my point, like 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:33.320 everyone said, like when you make judgments of of the guys, 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:35.479 we have two guys left in the roster from the 1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:39.360 sixteen draft, one who's not playing well, one who's a good, 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:43.200 very good pass rusher. We'll go to the seventeen draft 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:46.000 and look at that one. You have to have depth. 1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:48.960 That's why I'm going back to I don't want to 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:53.000 go through every draft because if it's not in our depth, 1:29:53.960 --> 1:30:00.280 give me the Dante Fewler, t J Yeldon gone, a 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:06.280 j Can he's the starter, James Sample safety, Rashad Green 1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:13.479 wide receiver, Michael Bennett defensive tackle, Sterling tight end, and 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:20.760 Ben Koyyak tight ends. He's so so there's your draft. 1:30:20.760 --> 1:30:22.840 There's no depth from that draft at all. One you 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:25.240 have one guy on the team. We can play this 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:27.560 game in fourteen and thirteen and twelve if you want to. 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:32.920 There there that does draft for disasters, right, I mean, alright, 1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:38.000 four team Blake, Markiss, Hurt, Allen Robinson's on, Brandon Linder, 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:44.679 Aaron Colvin, Telvin Smith gone, Chris Smith, Luke Bawenko, Storm Johnson. 1:30:48.400 --> 1:30:50.559 Because I mean, I mean that's I mean, like this 1:30:50.640 --> 1:30:54.360 is not like this is not surprising if you just 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:57.479 look at like what's happened, Like that's why the seven 1:30:57.720 --> 1:30:59.599 go to seventeen just for the stake of the argument. 1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:03.000 One in the here this one a gay starter, Cam 1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:11.280 Robinson starter, Dan Smoot, d d Westbrook, that Blair Blair 1:31:11.320 --> 1:31:17.880 Brown gone, Jaylen Myrick Marquez, William stullback. So like you 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:20.920 have like after two years, But Pete, you're right, you 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.360 have to go like the depth of your team is 1:31:23.400 --> 1:31:29.800 built from like you know, six five, four years ago. 1:31:29.880 --> 1:31:31.840 Those are now you should be your veterans on your 1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:35.200 team that are making up your starters, some backup special 1:31:35.200 --> 1:31:38.400 I mean, those are your guys now seventeen. That's good. 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:40.280 I'd hope most of them are here. It's only been 1:31:40.320 --> 1:31:44.760 two years, right, yes, I mean you don't want to 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:49.200 lose him after two years? Correct? Um? Well, okay, what's 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:57.680 the draft with Chark DJ Chark, Ronnie Harris Jackson, um 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:01.840 quality star. That's a good pick. Go ahead, keep going on. 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:07.480 Ronnie Harrison starting to be determined starting, But he's will Richardson, 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:16.040 Tanner Lee quarterback, Leon Jacob's linebacker, he's a specialty player, 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:19.599 and Logan Cook who will be a pro bowler most likely. 1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:23.680 So so basically that draft, they got depth out of 1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:29.639 that draft and players. Okay, the problem with that draft 1:32:29.720 --> 1:32:32.040 is they drafted Brian with the first round pick. That's 1:32:32.080 --> 1:32:37.360 the problem. But that I mean they answer, whoever, We'll 1:32:37.360 --> 1:32:39.040 take a break here and then let's do more social 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:49.400 media next time next day. Yeah, okay, because you won't 1:32:49.439 --> 1:32:51.760 shut up. No, Pete's doing the most talking here. But 1:32:51.840 --> 1:32:54.960 that's the death answer. That's why. All right, let's get 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:58.880 to our final social media question, just because Tony wants 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:01.360 to at son of Duvall nine oh four, can we 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:04.760 stop pretending like Folds is the best quarterback on this roster? Now? 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:08.040 The offense looked flashy and exciting with Minshew, Now it 1:33:08.080 --> 1:33:12.479 looks prehistoric and downright boring with Fowls. Folds is boring 1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:21.200 an average Blah, Tony, how many points did we score 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:25.280 against the Texans? Not enough? How many? Three? How many 1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:32.519 we score against the Saints? Six? Yeah? Okay, then they 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:37.599 had three points when the game mattered, Tony, No, No, 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:41.559 My point is it's no different. It's insane Bain scoring point. 1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:45.160 Bain scoredy points with when they played like good teams, 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:53.679 Like like, what's the they scored? They scored fifteen total 1:33:53.720 --> 1:33:56.040 points against the Texans in two games. Okay, no read 1:33:56.439 --> 1:33:59.760 read out. They lost, uh you know a week one 1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:02.439 that they's lost forty to twenty six. Okay, so that 1:34:02.520 --> 1:34:04.960 was I think that's the high point ahead and seven 1:34:04.960 --> 1:34:08.519 of those were full Houston Texans. They lost thirteen twelve, 1:34:08.920 --> 1:34:10.760 scored twelve points. But he drove him down the field. 1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:15.320 Was his first start taking a shot at mintew. I'm 1:34:15.360 --> 1:34:17.400 taking a shot that this misnomer like we had this 1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:20.120 high flying offense that was flashy and amazing when he 1:34:20.160 --> 1:34:22.360 was the quarterback. That's not accurate. They beat the Titans 1:34:22.360 --> 1:34:25.280 twenty seven on Thursday, twenty points in this Day's lead, 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:29.559 big deal, minshu Mania took off the win in Denver, 1:34:29.720 --> 1:34:34.000 come from behind, good game, showed some grit. Lost to 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:36.640 the Panthers thirty four twenty seven when mccaffree ran for it. 1:34:36.720 --> 1:34:42.360 That seven that good points, thirteen six Saints wins, six 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:52.400 seventeen win over the Bengals, alright, win over the Jets. Okay, 1:34:53.000 --> 1:34:55.679 and and actually they've been playing good defense, better defense 1:34:56.240 --> 1:35:01.160 twenty six three loss to the Texans in London, loss 1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:04.479 to the Colts, that's of course. So I guess my 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:06.760 point is I don't see like there's a couple of 1:35:06.760 --> 1:35:09.880 games they scored points against teams that were really bad 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:15.439 at that point. Um, I'm not saying, like I like 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:17.000 Mitch you, I think Mitche has a chance to be 1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:18.600 the starting quarterback of this team. I think he'd be 1:35:18.640 --> 1:35:22.040 a franchise guys. Very possible. There's a possibility of that, 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:26.000 real possibility. My whole point is saying that somehow, like 1:35:27.280 --> 1:35:29.559 there's this myth that we had this flashy offense that 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.960 was going up and down the field with Minshew and 1:35:33.040 --> 1:35:37.240 it's just stalled out with Foals. Is there to mean 1:35:37.400 --> 1:35:39.400 one quick thing? Is there a chance Minshew is the 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:45.080 starting quarterback in September of two thousand and twenty. Wow, 1:35:46.439 --> 1:35:49.080 that's the night bench the eighty million dollar man. I 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:51.479 think there is now where I do agree with the 1:35:51.520 --> 1:35:55.200 text message or the social media question. It is it 1:35:55.640 --> 1:36:00.200 felt more exciting because Mitsch you could extend plays and 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:03.400 make off schedule plays. Folds has not shown us that, 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:07.000 and that people wanted it to be more exciting because 1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:09.439 he was a six round pick, he didn't cost any money. 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:11.240 He came out of nowhere. They wanted it to be 1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:13.439 more exciting. But even if it wasn't, I we're going 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:15.280 to make it out to be. I agree. But where 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:18.000 I agree with the question the social media question is 1:36:18.320 --> 1:36:21.639 the off schedule plays, the scrambling making guys miss I mean, 1:36:21.720 --> 1:36:25.400 that was fun and it was alive, and then it 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:27.719 became a little bit of alive. I'm not disagreeing because 1:36:27.720 --> 1:36:29.799 the other thing we don't talk about he was leading 1:36:30.000 --> 1:36:32.759 I think at one time leading the NFL and fumbles 1:36:32.800 --> 1:36:36.439 as well, because of ball security. So there's a lot 1:36:36.600 --> 1:36:40.080 like we just make these blankets, statements and because of 1:36:40.160 --> 1:36:43.479 perception and sometimes it's not reality. Just asked any married man. 1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:49.720 But the fact that you think there's a chance he 1:36:49.760 --> 1:36:52.040 could be the opening day starter in two thousand and 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:54.800 twenty tells you all you need to know about your 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:59.680 your perception of full I think. But the reason I 1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:02.080 say that because I think he's I think Minshi played 1:37:02.080 --> 1:37:05.120 pretty well, especially I mean especially for a rookie, and 1:37:05.160 --> 1:37:08.519 I think he has the opera. I think there's there's 1:37:08.560 --> 1:37:12.160 more room for growth of Gardner Mintshew because of the 1:37:12.280 --> 1:37:15.439 age and his lack of experience than there is for 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:18.120 Nick Foles, just because of his experience and how long 1:37:18.160 --> 1:37:20.760 he's been the league. 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Be four, 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:10.479 you know, I mean obviously, you know we can't worry 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:13.320 about the playoffs, you know, losing through games division opponents 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:15.760 to stuff about it. Just the mentality is that, you know, 1:41:16.280 --> 1:41:17.519 I mean, I'm gonna fights at the end, So the 1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:19.240 zeros on the clock, you know, and there's no games 1:41:19.280 --> 1:41:22.200 up to the fight for so you know, and I know, 1:41:22.439 --> 1:41:23.960 I know my guys. You know, we've got a lot 1:41:24.000 --> 1:41:26.280 of guys. We're gonna keep fighting. So you know, as 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:27.760 a bunch of just sucks that flush are we are. 1:41:28.120 --> 1:41:29.800 You know, don't expect this to lay down and just quit. 1:41:29.840 --> 1:41:34.080 We're gonna keep playing ball. Klaas Campbell, Jaguars defensive lineman 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:36.840 in the locker room in Nashville yesterday. Jaguars Happy Hour 1:41:36.880 --> 1:41:41.640 continues j P Shadrick Pete Prisco Tony Baselli is thumbing 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:44.400 through Twitter. He hasn't had enough of the social questions 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:48.160 apparently tonight. I can't get it. You can't get enough. 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:52.080 I love the people. You're a people person people, Uh yeah, 1:41:52.840 --> 1:41:56.320 that that you are. I'm a man. I'm a man 1:41:56.400 --> 1:41:59.599 of the people, A man of the people. One quick thing. 1:42:00.960 --> 1:42:03.800 You know what's sad with what's going on here is 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:08.320 Tom's legacy in the eyes of the fans is being 1:42:08.320 --> 1:42:14.280 tarnished because of this. I don't like that, No, but 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:24.200 it is um Okay, I think I agree. Yes, let 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:26.160 me ask this. I'm not sure I do. I wasn't 1:42:26.200 --> 1:42:30.000 around here when he was gone. When he left here, 1:42:30.479 --> 1:42:33.720 he didn't leave on great terms. Here's the thing. I mean, 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:38.240 Pete covered the team just left. You just left. But 1:42:39.040 --> 1:42:41.360 I was gone to by the way, I was at Houston. 1:42:42.160 --> 1:42:45.000 But if I remember correctly, I mean it was the 1:42:45.120 --> 1:42:47.760 fans that were demanding Wayne make a tray, I mean 1:42:47.840 --> 1:42:52.880 a change, correct I was still on the radio in Jacksonville. Next, 1:42:53.000 --> 1:42:55.400 What was it that Pete? Wasn't that the issue? I mean, 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:58.600 the fans were the ones who wanted to change. The 1:42:58.720 --> 1:43:01.400 cap had gotten so out of whack, remember, yeah, and 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:03.719 they had a number of losing seasons. And I think 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:08.439 I mean, I mean Tom Tomas, he had lost his 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:11.519 way a little bit. I guess I'm bringing this up 1:43:11.560 --> 1:43:16.160 because whatever happens this year and next year, whenever, or 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:20.400 maybe ten years from now, hopefully whenever, Tom uh is 1:43:20.439 --> 1:43:23.400 no longer in the role he's in, whether it's self 1:43:23.439 --> 1:43:26.559 induced and he's just ready to retire and go on, 1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:30.000 or if there's a desition decision made to go in 1:43:30.080 --> 1:43:36.040 a different direction. My hope is that time will heal 1:43:36.160 --> 1:43:39.280 all wounds, and that's usually what happens that you know, 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:41.080 a couple of years away from it, there will be 1:43:41.080 --> 1:43:44.760 no tar, you know, no tarnish legacy because people were 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:46.559 you know, put you put in perspective and you look 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:50.360 at the whole picture and you remember for hopefully you 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:53.679 remember the good and the positive and all that was done. Um, 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:56.599 because I don't want that's the last thing anyone latched. 1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:59.080 I don't want that for Tom. And no, it shouldn't 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:03.960 happen either, but it will and it has. But time 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:06.320 heals those things. I think, yes, yes it does. But 1:44:06.439 --> 1:44:10.200 right now the wound is open and still hurts, and 1:44:10.520 --> 1:44:13.360 people are gonna be angry. People are man thing about Tom. 1:44:13.400 --> 1:44:16.080 Here's the other thing about Tom. In my mind, Tom 1:44:16.120 --> 1:44:18.439 Coughlin is one of the great coaches this league has 1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:21.719 ever seen. A Hall of Fame coach, hall of fame. 1:44:22.600 --> 1:44:26.080 Personnel hasn't always been a strong student, Tony. Let's be real, 1:44:26.520 --> 1:44:30.240 and I can go back and point out many, many, many, 1:44:30.280 --> 1:44:34.400 many personnel decisions he made when he was coach slash 1:44:34.760 --> 1:44:38.400 executive slash general manager of the entire organization, and there 1:44:38.439 --> 1:44:43.000 are many of them. So but coaching wise, there is 1:44:43.280 --> 1:44:47.519 no questioning that man is a coach, a great coach. 1:44:48.120 --> 1:44:49.599 And the second part of that is, and I said 1:44:49.600 --> 1:44:53.639 it earlier, there's no questioning him as a either because 1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:56.639 and not that does any doesn't absolve anything that's going 1:44:56.680 --> 1:45:00.200 on now. Tom Coughlin is an A plus person through 1:45:00.240 --> 1:45:02.400 and through, and a lot of coaches in this league 1:45:02.640 --> 1:45:06.240 you can't say that about. Let's touch on the a 1:45:06.360 --> 1:45:12.040 f C. Nothing else to add. Why I tried to 1:45:12.040 --> 1:45:14.680 move on That's right, he's very well said. I just 1:45:14.680 --> 1:45:16.360 wanted to say. I mean, we were quiet. I don't 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:19.320 even think we don't agree. It was just very well said. 1:45:19.720 --> 1:45:24.000 We'll give it an amen, Amen, Amen, Let's go. A 1:45:24.160 --> 1:45:27.760 f C South Results Thursday Night Football, the Texans over 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:31.679 the Colds seventeen DeShawn Watson through a couple of touchdowns, 1:45:31.680 --> 1:45:34.680 and of course the only other division game yesterday in Nashville, 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:38.200 Jonathan Williams ran for over a hundred again for the Colts. 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:40.880 But the Texans come away with a win and the 1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:45.240 division lead. Pete Yeah, and they have the best quarterback. 1:45:45.680 --> 1:45:48.439 And so how about somebody asked me this yesterday and 1:45:48.439 --> 1:45:50.679 when we are working, how do you rank the quarterbacks 1:45:50.680 --> 1:45:52.559 in the AC? Set says, since we know what the 1:45:52.600 --> 1:45:56.680 division looks like from ranking the teams ranked the quarterbacks 1:45:56.760 --> 1:46:01.120 right now in the AC South, Watson are set, tanne 1:46:01.280 --> 1:46:05.840 Hill falls. That's how I ranked him. And somebody said, 1:46:05.840 --> 1:46:07.960 maybe the way Tannehill is playing right now, he might 1:46:08.000 --> 1:46:10.519 be ahead of her. Set. Well, I'll say this, the 1:46:10.560 --> 1:46:13.840 cult should have won that game. Let me back up, 1:46:14.120 --> 1:46:16.280 the Colt said, every opportunity to win that game. They 1:46:16.320 --> 1:46:19.240 actually took the lead uh late mid the late third 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:22.280 quarter at a drive eleven play drive ten of them 1:46:22.320 --> 1:46:26.000 were run plays. Texans get the ball, they drive down 1:46:26.040 --> 1:46:29.040 and settled for a field goals set. Colts get the 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:31.639 ball back and Frank Wright throw it three straight times 1:46:31.840 --> 1:46:34.679 and the three and out Texans got the ball scored 1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:36.880 and the game changed at that moment. I never I 1:46:36.920 --> 1:46:42.000 didn't understand why. From they were pounding the Texans, I 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.759 mean they were beating them, pushing them off the ball. 1:46:44.840 --> 1:46:47.920 I mean they were having their yet that they become 1:46:47.920 --> 1:46:50.640 a rent run heavy team and then they're good at 1:46:50.760 --> 1:46:53.559 that line is good man, and they got away from it. 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:56.200 And uh, I was a little bit surprised as t 1:46:56.400 --> 1:46:59.439 Y wasn't himself. He wasn't by any means, and so 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:01.639 their limited at the receiver position a little bit without 1:47:01.640 --> 1:47:04.479 t Y and Paris Campbell I think is that his name? 1:47:04.560 --> 1:47:08.880 The rookie they drafted. Um, so now they lost. Now 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:11.600 they lost Ebron two for the year. What was the 1:47:11.600 --> 1:47:13.439 injury there? Because he got hurt during the game, I 1:47:13.439 --> 1:47:18.639 don't remember, So that was a little bit surprising. Um. 1:47:18.680 --> 1:47:21.920 But listen the Texas one they split this year. I 1:47:21.920 --> 1:47:25.839 mean the power rankings, I think go as the record 1:47:26.240 --> 1:47:30.040 is right now, Houston, Indie, Tennessee, Jacksonville well and Tennessee 1:47:30.160 --> 1:47:32.320 plays Indie this week and then they have the Texans 1:47:32.320 --> 1:47:37.479 two times. Tennessee. That's a tough team, man, and Tennessee 1:47:37.520 --> 1:47:41.280 controls their destiny even though they wouldn't shock you to 1:47:41.280 --> 1:47:44.160 see them win the division. No, not at all. My 1:47:44.960 --> 1:47:47.519 Raybril does a good job. I think, uh was it 1:47:47.600 --> 1:47:51.680 John Robinson their GM, Yes, came over from Tampa. There's 1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:53.960 an outstanding job. I think it's a good combination. They 1:47:54.000 --> 1:47:56.080 worked well together. 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Here comes in 1:50:52.840 --> 1:50:55.800 bringing it with those killer boots in that portable grill. 1:50:56.000 --> 1:50:58.840 Oh my, I think she's going for him. Mom, I 1:50:58.880 --> 1:51:02.639 think the hot dogs are on fire. Hold on, honey, ladies, 1:51:02.760 --> 1:51:06.120 where did you go to get ready for the game? Start? 1:51:06.680 --> 1:51:09.000 Is it any one of our six locations in Jacksonville 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:11.519 for all your tailgating needs? As we probably support the 1:51:11.560 --> 1:51:15.200 Jaguars this season, Stuy mart saving is a beautiful thing. 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:33.200 We're back, Jaguars happy, our j P shattered, Tony Wasselly 1:51:33.280 --> 1:51:39.040 Pete Presco. We really should do that in commercial podcasts Uncensored. No, 1:51:39.280 --> 1:51:40.960 we talked about it every week. I don't think we should, 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:43.439 especially this week. This will be a good episode this week. 1:51:43.479 --> 1:51:45.439 I don't think it'll be smart. Why is he? Is 1:51:45.439 --> 1:51:49.720 he uh lit tonight? He's crying about us teaming up 1:51:49.840 --> 1:51:53.439 on him tonight? No, Well that's not accurate. You were 1:51:54.720 --> 1:52:02.040 I was not giant. First of all, if you believe 1:52:02.080 --> 1:52:03.920 that I got some swamp land, I can sell you. 1:52:05.680 --> 1:52:09.000 Um JP is a liar and we now have that 1:52:09.080 --> 1:52:13.200 confirmed that he is uh misleading the people. How do 1:52:13.240 --> 1:52:15.479 you have that confirmed? What are you talking about? I've confirmed? 1:52:15.880 --> 1:52:20.120 Oh you you are the sod. He made himself the 1:52:20.120 --> 1:52:24.400 source of his own store. Can't you do that? Pete? Journalism? 1:52:24.400 --> 1:52:28.280 Oh you need to get another source that I heard. 1:52:28.280 --> 1:52:31.880 Nowadays you're able to do. That's a new standard. No, nowadays, 1:52:31.920 --> 1:52:35.320 don't even do any sources. Just say it. That's my point. 1:52:35.560 --> 1:52:39.720 Let's go around the games. In Week twelve league, the 1:52:39.720 --> 1:52:44.760 Bucketeers over the Falcons thirty five two jamis and the 1:52:44.800 --> 1:52:49.559 Bucks with a wind Pete, Yeah, died. The Falcons were 1:52:49.560 --> 1:52:51.400 the story though for me in this game they looked 1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:53.960 like they had righted things after the last two weeks, 1:52:53.960 --> 1:52:57.240 and they went back to being miserable again and no 1:52:57.439 --> 1:53:00.280 sacks after getting bunches of them the last two weeks. 1:53:00.320 --> 1:53:04.840 So holds the ball forever? What's that? And I said? 1:53:04.880 --> 1:53:08.080 And Winston holds the ball forever. He does hold the 1:53:08.120 --> 1:53:10.120 ball forever. But he also threw for three thirty and 1:53:10.120 --> 1:53:14.519 three touchdowns and two interceptions. Would you take three thirty 1:53:14.560 --> 1:53:18.320 and three touchdowns right? Two interceptions and two interceptions? Would 1:53:18.360 --> 1:53:23.920 you take that? T P don't be he would take it. 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:27.320 That's why he's not answering. That's not I don't believe 1:53:27.400 --> 1:53:29.920 you play football planning on turning the ball over. It 1:53:29.960 --> 1:53:33.640 doesn't work that you're planning on it. You never you 1:53:33.680 --> 1:53:36.200 have to give the two picks with them, they come along. 1:53:36.320 --> 1:53:38.320 Trust me. Show me the last time Jamis did not 1:53:38.400 --> 1:53:40.320 throw a pick in the game. Probably been a while. 1:53:41.680 --> 1:53:43.680 I can look that up. By the way, the Bills over. 1:53:43.760 --> 1:53:46.599 The last time somebody in Jacksonville threw four touchdown passes, 1:53:49.240 --> 1:53:52.599 I can't remember. It's been a while. The Bills over 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:55.200 the Broncos. Frank Gore becomes a third all time leading rusher, 1:53:55.280 --> 1:53:58.559 surpassing Barry Sanders trially, only Emmett and Walter Payton. He's 1:53:58.560 --> 1:54:00.960 in the past, Walter Payton most likely. I mean, what 1:54:01.080 --> 1:54:04.679 is the A few hundred yards left? Yeah, and it's 1:54:04.760 --> 1:54:07.080 it's a testament to his longevity. I mean, think about 1:54:07.080 --> 1:54:08.640 this for a second, and got toured two A c 1:54:08.840 --> 1:54:11.840 ls in college. No, he's remarkable. He's a and he's 1:54:11.840 --> 1:54:13.800 not slowing I mean, I guess he's slowing down, but 1:54:13.840 --> 1:54:18.360 his yards for attempt is still good. Okay, this is 1:54:18.360 --> 1:54:21.720 gonna be sound like I'm a Homer as good as 1:54:21.760 --> 1:54:23.519 he is and as Hall of fame worthy as he is. 1:54:23.680 --> 1:54:27.000 He wanted better running back in fred Taylor. I take 1:54:27.000 --> 1:54:32.520 Freddy t By the way, the last special, last interception 1:54:32.560 --> 1:54:35.200 free game for Jamis was at Seattle on the third 1:54:35.280 --> 1:54:41.440 of November. Wow, I stand correct too. He was passing 1:54:42.920 --> 1:54:50.000 and they lost. Tony would take that. Throws Bears over 1:54:50.040 --> 1:54:54.480 the Giants nineteen fourteen, struggle to get points in that game. 1:54:55.760 --> 1:55:01.280 Talking about that game, Steelers over the Angles sixteen. Tin 1:55:01.640 --> 1:55:04.760 Hodges new quarterback man, and they might slide into this 1:55:04.880 --> 1:55:11.080 thing Mason Rudolph out Ruda, Uh, the Duck Dynasty whatever 1:55:11.120 --> 1:55:17.680 his name is, Devil Hodges Hodges in and uh. And 1:55:18.000 --> 1:55:20.600 that war this week with the Browns, the rematch. I 1:55:20.600 --> 1:55:24.240 can't wait to see it. They're six and five and 1:55:24.320 --> 1:55:28.000 they have an easy record, too easy schedule coming up, 1:55:28.400 --> 1:55:34.160 schedule coming up. I mean they testament to uh, Mike Tomlin, 1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:36.400 I mean what a job. I mean, they have injuries, 1:55:36.440 --> 1:55:40.280 lost guys. You think about that. They played yesterday. They 1:55:40.400 --> 1:55:43.240 played a bad team, but they played yesterday without Smith, Schuster, 1:55:43.440 --> 1:55:49.600 Connor Roethlisberger. I mean, thank your hon and on it goes. Yeah, 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.880 they also played the Bengals yesterday, but still you're still 1:55:52.880 --> 1:55:56.520 winning games you're supposed to win. Are the Bengals gonna 1:55:56.560 --> 1:56:00.360 go winless? They're going back to Dalton? Now, did you 1:56:00.360 --> 1:56:09.000 see that the Browns over the Dolphins. Mayfield actually looked good, 1:56:09.040 --> 1:56:10.720 but he's playing a Dolphins, so it's like a seven 1:56:10.800 --> 1:56:15.600 on seven game practice. The Brown's gonna make a run here. Pete, Well, 1:56:15.640 --> 1:56:18.280 the loser of this week's game between the Steelers and 1:56:18.360 --> 1:56:23.880 Browns is out elimination game. According to Pete Prisco, Saints 1:56:23.880 --> 1:56:26.200 over the Panthers late second or last second field goal 1:56:26.480 --> 1:56:29.360 for the Saints. Gotta done Panthers, mr field goal Panthers 1:56:29.760 --> 1:56:31.520 for the Saints. By the way, it's a bunch of field. 1:56:31.840 --> 1:56:36.360 The Panthers missed a chip shot amongst other field goals, 1:56:36.360 --> 1:56:38.600 but the chip shot was like a twenty nine yard 1:56:38.320 --> 1:56:40.920 or to take the lead. And at that point, worst 1:56:40.960 --> 1:56:44.880 case scenario, they go to overtime, right and and Tony. 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:47.240 But here's what. In the last two of the last 1:56:47.320 --> 1:56:50.440 three games, the Saints lost to the Falcons by getting 1:56:50.440 --> 1:56:55.040 whipped physically on both lines. And now they almost lost 1:56:55.120 --> 1:56:57.640 or should have lost the Panthers by giving up thirty 1:56:57.680 --> 1:57:00.920 one or it should have been thirty four. Not a 1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:03.000 good look for a team that at one point we 1:57:03.080 --> 1:57:05.240 thought was in the conversation would be the best team 1:57:05.240 --> 1:57:07.800 in the league. That's fair, but I think the Panthers 1:57:07.800 --> 1:57:12.400 are better than people give him credit for not Defensively, 1:57:12.440 --> 1:57:17.240 they're not fair. Jets over the Raiders. Three shocker of 1:57:17.320 --> 1:57:19.760 the weekend World happen. I think I was one of 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:21.760 my best picks of the week. The rest of them stunt, 1:57:21.840 --> 1:57:24.680 But I thought the Jets would win that game. Not 1:57:25.000 --> 1:57:27.520 that not No. I thought Derek Carr would throw some 1:57:27.720 --> 1:57:30.840 passes and hit some passes as well. It's a perfect storm. 1:57:31.240 --> 1:57:33.560 Got a West Coast team going east, playing an early 1:57:33.640 --> 1:57:36.520 start against a team that's playing much better. And then, oh, 1:57:36.560 --> 1:57:38.680 by the way, next week, the Raiders played the Chiefs 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:41.280 in the rivalry game for the division. So how did 1:57:41.360 --> 1:57:44.960 how did? How did Sam Donald book? Much better? He's 1:57:45.000 --> 1:57:47.160 getting better and better. Let's get through the rest of 1:57:47.200 --> 1:57:50.600 these quickly. Seahawks over the Eagles seventeen nine, The Redskins 1:57:50.640 --> 1:57:54.200 beat the Lions nineteen sixteen, the Patriots somehow beat the 1:57:54.200 --> 1:57:58.040 Cowboys thirteen to nine, and the forty Niners flex some 1:57:58.160 --> 1:58:00.720 muscles in a thirty seven and eight over the Packers. 1:58:00.800 --> 1:58:03.400 The Packers are nowhere near the best team in the 1:58:03.520 --> 1:58:07.200 NFC right now, right now, the best team by far. 1:58:07.320 --> 1:58:09.920 It's the It is the San Francisco forty Niners. They're 1:58:09.920 --> 1:58:13.720 the best team in the NFC. Just stop denying it. 1:58:13.720 --> 1:58:17.160 It's the truth. Baby. Monday Football, the m v P 1:58:17.320 --> 1:58:20.480 frontrunner Lamar Jackson brings the eight and to Baltimore Ravens 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:23.080 to Los Angeles to face the six and four Rams, 1:58:23.080 --> 1:58:26.800 including three former Jaguar's first round draft picks. Huge ball 1:58:26.840 --> 1:58:29.960 game at the l A Colosseum. Who you got tonight? 1:58:30.280 --> 1:58:32.320 I like the Ravens. I like the Ravens are the 1:58:32.360 --> 1:58:35.160 best team in the a f c uh and I 1:58:35.200 --> 1:58:37.720 don't think they're gonna and they play really good defense, 1:58:37.880 --> 1:58:41.720 opportunistic defense. The offensive line for the Rams is not 1:58:41.880 --> 1:58:44.800 very good. And I don't think I don't think the 1:58:44.920 --> 1:58:46.960 Rams are gonna slow down Lamar Jackson. I think he 1:58:47.000 --> 1:58:50.120 has a big night in l A. I disagree with you. 1:58:50.400 --> 1:58:52.280 I think the Rams are gonna win that game. And 1:58:52.320 --> 1:58:54.200 I think Wade Phillips is gonna come up with the 1:58:54.280 --> 1:59:00.440 perfect game plan to slow down Lamar jack What is that? 1:59:03.960 --> 1:59:06.240 Bete have a great week. We'll talk to you next time, 1:59:06.440 --> 1:59:10.840 and happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. To Yeah, 1:59:10.920 --> 1:59:13.720 Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Scene right. Happy Thanksgiving to you 1:59:14.000 --> 1:59:15.880 and do you. I'll be in Atlanta doing the game 1:59:15.960 --> 1:59:19.400 on Thanksgiving, so have a Turkey leg for me. We'll 1:59:19.400 --> 1:59:22.520 do it, Tony, but tell your entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. 1:59:22.560 --> 1:59:25.120 Will see you next time. Thank you for watching on 1:59:25.240 --> 1:59:28.360 Jaguars dot com, Jaguars Facebook, and thank you for listening 1:59:28.640 --> 1:59:32.560 on Jaguars Radio to Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday. 1:59:32.600 --> 1:59:33.480 We'll talk to you next time.