1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Up Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Friday, 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: October twentieth. Great, great podcast to take you into the weekend. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: We have an outstanding interview with Teddy Covers. If you've 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: been in the gambling space, or you read about it 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: or you follow it online, you know this guy is 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: a longtime Vegas fixture. Breaking down week Holy hell is 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: this week seven? Yes, Week seven already in the NFL. 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Nine minutes worth of best bets at the end of 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the podcast, But first we've got to tackle Thursday night football. 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I cannot believe the New Orleans Saints send up on 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: the losing side thirty one to twenty four. So much 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: for primetime unders. Huh, Primetime unders were fourteen and six 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: this year. And we got an explosion of points, just 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: an orgy of points, and the Jags hold on, hold on, 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: yes they do, for an ugly win New Orleans. I 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: think New Orleans comes out of this the bigger story, 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: like the Jags with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence are good. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: So much for k me not good concerns, bulky brace 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: didn't matter. Trevor Lawrence ran well, passed, well, moved in 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: the pocket. A good performance from Trevor Lawrence. My guy 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: Travis Etn helping me in fantasy. I do believe though, 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: this is more about the New Orleans Saints. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Now. 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: Everybody is gonna spend well spend last night and all 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: of Friday today just hammering Derek Carr. Okay, he wasn't great. 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: The pick six. Shannon forced it into a tight window there, 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: tipped and then run back by the linebacker or safety whoever, 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: whoever that was. Listen, it's not gonna be popular. I'm 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: gonna defend the Saints for a second. Yes, that's an 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: ugly bad loss for New Orleans. The end of the 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: game scenario, like it's like third and ten, Foster Moro 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: drops a touchdown, literally dropped the game tying touchdown pass 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: in the end zone. I mean he dropped it, and 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: then they don't call a time out and then they 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: just throw like a fade to Olave and it was 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: a terrible underthrow by car It's like whoa, whoa is 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: A what's the rush? What are we doing? And B Like, guys, 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: can we dial up some creativity in the red zone? 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: They were abysmal in the red zone. I mean, folks, listen, 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: this is gonna sound crazy. They rang up over three 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: hundred yards of offense. Derek Carr threw the ball fifty 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: five times, which is listen, anytime your quarterback throws the 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: ball fifty five times, probably losing the game. It's a 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: sign of weakness that you can't run the football all 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: you can do is throw. The offensive line is banged up, 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: but that's no excuse in the red zone. Saints two 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: for five, Jacksonville two for two, two for five in 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: the red zone. That doesn't cut it on any level. 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: We've seen red zone ineptitude be a major issue, especially 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: last week. But here's where I'll defend the Saints as 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: long as they can have some sort of come to 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: Jesus moment with their offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael, who's treating 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: this Saint's team like Drew Brees is the quarterback, and 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: everything is like quick right over the middle, Let's get 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the ball out quickly. Right, everything's in the middle of 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: the field. Everything, I mean, the defense Stones was coming. 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: I can sit on my couch and see what's coming. 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: It's ugly. So as long as they can get things 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: right with Pete Carmichael. Hey, bro, we need to open 61 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: up the playbook. We are extremely predictable. This is why 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: the Saints still have a shot at the division and 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Okay, and it's one reason. It's the schedule, folks. 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: This schedule is the easiest left in football. Here is 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: who they are playing in the next three weeks. Okay, 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: two losses in a row. They've lost four or five 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: since the two and zero seven. Next up at Gardner 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: Minshew and the Colts. After that versus maybe the kid 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Badgant and the Bears. I don't know if Justin Fields 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: is gonna be back. Reportedly he can't grip a football 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: after that at Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. No, Justin Jefferson 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: in that one. So like they could win those games, 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: why couldn't they? And then they get to buy And 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: then it's Atlanta Desmond Ritter Detroit, which is really the 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: toughest game left on their schedule, and they get him 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: at home. Bryce Young, Daniel Jones, Matt Stafford could be 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: a tough one. We'll see what the state of football 78 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: the Rams are in at that point. If Stafford's still 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: upright at Tampa varsus Atlanta, folks, who's the best team 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: left on their schedule outside of Detroit. I'm not even kidding. 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: I know they look ugly, they can't move the football, unimaginative. 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: Fifty five passes and Olave barely did anything. I mean, 83 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: it's Alvin Kamara is gonna set records for running back 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: receptions and then minuscule amount of yards. I think at 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 2: one point he had ten catches for seventy five yards. 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: He ended up Kamara did with they whopping twelve catches 87 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: for ninety one yards. They had one explosive play all 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: game long, and it was a dump off to Alvin 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Kamara for twenty one yards. That doesn't work in the NFL. Now, 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: you can tell me that the offensive line needs to 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: get healthy and they need to give car time. That's fine, Okay, 92 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: could we get Olave in some more motion? He's fast. 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: Can we get Rashid Shahed in some motion like these 94 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: guys can get separation the way the Dolphins do. It's 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: just a lack of creativity. I'm not selling the stains. 96 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna hammer them cars rightfully getting battered. But remember 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: he had that issue last week with Carmichael how to 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: apologize for it. I think at some point Carmichael is 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: going to have to step up and own it and 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: be like, hey, you know, maybe I'm not the guy 101 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: because he has been awful and there were reports that 102 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: he wasn't that keen on returning to the Saints in 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: the offseason. So let's see what happens at offensive coordator 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: b Dennis Alan better write this ship because right now 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: three and four it ain't pretty. 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: Rob Yeah, it's not looking pretty at all, and it 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: hurts my heart for two reasons. One of them, I 108 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 4: picked them to win the division before the season. I 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: even almost picked them to make a run of the 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: number one seed, if you recall, and I'm something of 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: like I'm something of a Derek Carr defender, you know, 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: going back to the Raiders. I think he got a 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: bad rap. I think that he's had a lot of changeover, 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: and most guys in his position, when they have that 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: many different coaches in that any different offensive coordinators usually 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: washed out of the NFL by like year four or five. 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: So you know, me personally, it kind of hurts. But 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up the motion thing because we 119 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: didn't even talk about this but I had this note 120 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: written down before we started recording. Coming into Thursday Night football, 121 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints were twenty ninth in the NFL. 122 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: It's snap motion offense smack dab in between the Carolina 123 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: Panthers and my Las Vegas Raiders. Neither one of those 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: teams known for offense. 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: Right. 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: And then as it relates to actual you know, motion 127 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: before the snap, just moving guys around, shifting things of 128 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: that sort, there are only two teams in the NFL 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: who use motion on less than thirty percent of their snaps, 130 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints being one, the Philadelphia Eagles being 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 4: the other. And the difference obviously between those two teams 132 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: that the Eagles can run the ball down your throat, 133 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if they run in motion. The Saints 134 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: don't have that luxury. 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: Right. 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: The offensive line isn't any good. Alvin Kamara, I know 137 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: he had a lot of catches. It doesn't looked very exploded. 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 4: If I'm really worried about this team, because it feels 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: to me like they are going to implode here in 140 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: a week or two. The vibes, I know this is 141 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: not you know, real analytical, but the vibes are bad 142 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: in New Orleans. There were so many times they cut 143 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: to the sidelines. Derek Carr is yelling at Chris Olave, 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: Derek Carr is getting into it with the offensive coordinator, 145 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: car Michael, and then you start to see even when 146 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: guys are not yelling, when they show the sidelines of 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: what's going on between plays, You're starting to see splits 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: in faction on the offensive players. You're seeing Derek Carr, 149 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: Avin Kamara, Michael, Thomas, Foster Rowe who dropped the game 150 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: time touchdown, We're gonna talk about it. 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Former Raid guys are and yeah, former Raiders. 152 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: You're to see those guys in one huddle and you 153 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: see Olave and Shaheed and some other guys in the 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: other huddle like they're they're crumbling before our eyes. And 155 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: if they weren't able to steal that win last night, 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: that would have been huge for them. Since they didn't 157 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: and the way that they lost, I'm really worried that 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: things are going to combust in New Orleans. 159 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: Sack. 160 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, Rob, If if I told 161 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: you that Trevor Lawrence would have one touchdown pass Calvin 162 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Ridley would have one catch for five yards, Saints are 163 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: probably winning that game. No one catch for five yards. 164 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of that. 165 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: Now. 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: I don't know the exact matchups yet, but I believe 167 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Marshaw and Lattimore spent a lot of the evening shadowing 168 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley. He did nothing, so they bottle up. Ridley etn. 169 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Only had fifty three yards rushing. Like the Saints defense 170 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: did a fairly decent job after the opening drive, and 171 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, how do they not win this game? Something's 172 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: missing her up. It just something feels off with the Saints. 173 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: I think they'll fix it. It's still early. 174 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I hope so for the sake of my guy, 175 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 4: because look, if you just look ahead, I don't want 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: to get too far ahead of ourselves because, like you said, 177 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: their schedule lightens up in a big way, so they 178 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: should hopefully be able to get back on track entering 179 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: next season. Though they're already eighty eight million dollars above 180 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: the salary cap in twenty twenty four, wow, with only 181 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: forty eight play under contract. And for anybody who's already saying, hey, 182 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: we gotta cut Derek Carr, we gotta trade Derek Carr, 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: He's not the guy, obviously, overpaid him realistically similar to 184 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: the Russell Wilson situation. Unless you're gonna take like a 185 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: seventy million dollar cap pit bath. They don't have a 186 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: reel out until after the twenty twenty five season, so 187 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: just make yourselves very comfortable New Orleans. 188 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, without further ado, let's get to 189 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: our guest. He is a gambling maven in Vegas. 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He knows a guy who does. 225 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: Let's just say I know. 226 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 5: A guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 227 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: You know him. 229 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: One of Vegas's finest gamblers. Teddy Covers, is the nickname Teddy. 230 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: How are you, man? 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: I'm doing great? How are you today? 232 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: You know? 233 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: Listen, I irrationally like this weekend's NFL games five and oh 234 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, two and three last week. But I 235 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: look at the card this week, Teddy, I don't know, 236 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: it feels like a good one. I don't know what's 237 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: your overarching theme here? We are, what six weeks end 238 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: of the season. 239 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 5: So we're talking about overarchie. It's the same any week 240 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: of the season. 241 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what team is underbounded in the betting marketplace, 242 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: what team is overvalue in the betting market yep. And 243 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: that's the concept I'm looking for. So when you have 244 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: a team that's playing, you know, a plus football every week, 245 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: like let's say San Francisco was doing last week, or 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: Philadelphia was doing last week. That doesn't happen every week 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: all season long, so we do expect some variants, some randomness, 248 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: sometimes some upsets to happen. But the bottom line right 249 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: now is that we're still feeling out which are the 250 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: best teams, which are. 251 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 5: The worst teams. 252 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: Who can we make the most money betting on who 253 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: can make the most money betting against it. Frankly, when 254 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: you talk about the first six weeks of the season, 255 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: that sets the stage, that's the you know, that's the sizzle, right, 256 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: here's the stake coming up? 257 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it does feel like scoring is down. 258 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Some of the numbers are crazy. Last week is with 259 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: a record setting week for unders. There's a lot of 260 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: compleats about offensive line injuries, offensive line play, a lot 261 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: of bad quarterbacks. It feels like the upper crust of 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: the league. We know that there's four or five, maybe 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: six good teams, and then the middle class is like 264 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: eighteen teams and there's the bottom feeders, the drek. I 265 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: am curious you said, you know San Francisco and Philly 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: lost last week. To me, that often is a bat 267 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: signal to that they're going to be undervalue to the market. 268 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Because the common gambler out there is gonna say, ooh, Eagles, 269 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't like it. Niners, No, I don't know. Injuries, 270 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: and they just happened to be both playing teams that 271 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: covered last week. So maybe there is value on the 272 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Niners and Eagles. I'm looking at taking them in the circle. 273 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: I've already bet them personally. Do you either of those 274 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: games do anything for you? 275 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: So let me talk conceptually first, because going into last 276 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: week we're talking about San Fran was certainly the highest. 277 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: Power rated team in the NFL. 278 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: My numbers had them a field goal better than number 279 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: two teams, and Philadelphia was certainly. 280 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: The top five. 281 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly where I had a couple points 282 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: behind San Fran, but two teams that were power rated 283 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: at the very top of the league. One loss doesn't 284 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: change that. Two losses don't change that. It would take 285 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: an extended streak of losing for either of those teams 286 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: to have quote unquote value. You know, week in week 287 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: out moving forward? You said something else, and again, it's 288 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: my job, Jase, I hope you don't mind. I'm going 289 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: to push back on stuff. 290 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: No, no, what you do that makes it way better? 291 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're like, well, the public the public. 292 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: The public had zero influence on any NFL line, any 293 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: line in any sport. 294 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: Lines are not designed to beat the public. 295 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: Lines are designed to beat sharp betters, the wise guys, 296 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: the guys who are betting one hundred grand, not twenty bucks. 297 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: So every line, for every game point spread total first 298 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: half that they could the books. I'm not gonna say 299 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: they don't care because obviously you have a bad week, 300 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: and then the books are on all these shows whining 301 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: about how they had a bad week. 302 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: But the books don't care about the public. 303 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: When all said and done, at the end of the year, 304 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: books going to make a profit from the p that's all. Yeah, 305 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: their influence on the points spread minimal. Maybe on a 306 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Monday night game where the best team that evere wants 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: to bet on is playing the worst team that all 308 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: wants to bet on. Yeah, maybe the publicans was worth 309 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: a half point in that instance. But honestly, lines are 310 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: the public has nothing to do with it. It's all about 311 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: sharp money, the biggest betters, and the books protecting themselves 312 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: from the biggest betters in the world. 313 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had guys, come on here, jeez, this week last, 314 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean all season saying like you know, it's interesting 315 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: the public is eighty five percent on this team depending 316 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: on what number I'm going to go the other way, 317 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: and you know the eighty twenty rule. Everybody has their 318 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: own theory. But when when I mentioned like sanfran I 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: think their line is six and a half? Is it 320 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: or is it up to seven? I haven't seen the 321 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: very latest right before we jumped on. But the Eagles 322 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: line is a little more interesting because it's pinged around. 323 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: It was two and a half. I saw down to one. 324 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: Now it's back up to two and a half. Obviously, 325 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: neither of them is the key number of three. So 326 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: none of those games really interest you or do you 327 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: have anything on either of those yet. 328 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: So Philly Miami's a fascinating game, all right, It really is, 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: because I look at Philadelphia as being a vulnerable team 330 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: right now. Certainly when you look at the cluster injuries 331 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: in the secondary, that's not what you want going against Miami. 332 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: It's not close to what you want going against Miami 333 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: has potential to be a real disaster for Philadelphia on 334 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. That said, we look 335 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: at Miami season, all right, we're all talking to oh 336 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: my god, the Dolphins at the offense. You can't stop 337 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: this team. Look at who they played, because at this 338 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: stage of the campaign, straight the schedule matters a lot. 339 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: To me, Miami has feasted on the week they played 340 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: one good team, Buffalo. 341 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: You remember the game. I watched the game. Miami had 342 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: no chance in that game, and certainly on the second half. 343 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: You know, they traded points for a little while it 344 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: didn't work. Buffalo was the better team by far during 345 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: crunch time in that ballgame, and that may well be 346 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: the situation Miami's going in this week, stepping up in 347 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 3: class a team that is power rated through the roof 348 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: right now because their offense numbers are litterly ridiculous. I'm 349 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: not going to rush to step in front of Miami, 350 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: but if I had to play the game, I probably 351 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: look at Philadelphia size. 352 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering how do you handle that with 353 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: your clients? Like earlier in the week line not as 354 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: favorable to Philly. Then it dips down to one. Are 355 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: you able to if you like the Eagles? Are you 356 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: able to jump on that and then give out the 357 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: Eagles that say one? And then it moves. If the 358 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: guy didn't open the email in time, and then the 359 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: line is is is able to ping up to two 360 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: to two and a half? I don't know, how do 361 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: you how do you handle that one? Something like that 362 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: with the each. 363 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean conceptually. 364 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean one of the advantages that you have is 365 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: a better and there's a lot of Look, betters have 366 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: so many advantage over the book maker that we don't 367 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: talk about. Betters get to choose the books book I 368 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: have to go to a line on every game line total, 369 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: first half, second half. We get to pick and choose 370 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: which ones we want to bet, all right, So that's 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: one big advantage is it better? 372 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Another big advantage that. 373 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: You have as better is exactly what you were just 374 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: talking about, Jason, where. 375 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: It's yeah right. 376 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Buddy, little sneezing, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 377 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I've been you know, I was a little 378 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: bit under weather on Monday. And you know what when 379 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: you when you miss one day, when you're down for 380 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: one day. 381 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: I'm not going I never go down. I don't think 382 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: I've taken a sick day in the seven years i've 383 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: been at FS one, never taken one. I just fight 384 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: through your due. No, hey, hey, what are you playing 385 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: roulette with red and black? Here? Come on, I'm not 386 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: due for a sick day. I don't I don't take them. 387 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm being facetious. I lost, I lost my train of thought. 388 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: Where were where. 389 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: We eagles and giving out a line to your clients? 390 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? Sure, yeah. 391 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: So another advener is do you have the better you 392 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: get the better early in the week, you get to 393 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: bet when the line's first open, you get the bet 394 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: later in the week. For me, that was the biggest 395 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: difference round. I moved to Las Vegas in nineteen ninety eight. 396 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 3: I was and casual better, an amateur better back in Michigan, 397 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: and the options you had were, well, you call your 398 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: booking on Sunday morning, and that's when you get your 399 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: bets down. When you live in the modern world of 400 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: sports betting, I make bets Sunday night, I make bets 401 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: Monday morning. I can make a bet on Tuesday at 402 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: the lines one. I can tell my advise my clients 403 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: to do the same throughout the course of the week, 404 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: so you have the opportunity to take advantage of the 405 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: lines that aren't. 406 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 5: There for long. 407 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: There's lots of games where you talk about that one 408 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: didn't open one, not going to close one. But if 409 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: you were there at the right time, you were able 410 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: to take advantage of that. And that's when you do 411 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: this full time. Those are the type of bets that 412 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: get in your pocket as opposed to when you're doing 413 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: a part time and it's much harder to. 414 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 5: And flow with getting the best. 415 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: Of the number. 416 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: And listen, let's be real, right they move the extra 417 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: point back a little while ago. You've got some extra 418 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: conservative coaches out there who were just taking the threes. 419 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 2: I mean, hell, you know, Atlanta, you definitely can't lay 420 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 2: numbers with them. They're winning games by one to two. 421 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: They don't mind being conservative with their young quarterback River. 422 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: Let me move to an game that's right around a 423 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: key number, the Seattle Seahawks. I was stunned that this 424 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: actually dipped back down to seven from seven and a half. 425 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: I think it was up to eight. Seahawks hosting Arizona. 426 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: This was my first bet of the week Sunday night. 427 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: Arizona just seems to be trending poorly. I know it's 428 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: a divisional matchup, but we've seen them just fall apart 429 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: in the second half. They don't have any depth, the 430 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: Connor injury, it's just a bad matchup. 431 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 5: There. 432 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: They're horrendous secondary against you know, these three good wide 433 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: outs in Seattle. I don't know Seattle Arizona is that 434 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: to do anything for you? 435 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: So my good reaction there is I'm not laying more 436 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: than a touchdown with Seattle, all right. I bet against Arizona, 437 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: had a winning bet against Arizona last week. I thought 438 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: they were cheaply priced in LA against a RAMS team 439 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: that was going to be focused, and we got that 440 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you know, and even though 441 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: the first half of that game was dicey, that was 442 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: a sweat and half early on. LA ended up prevailing 443 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: and Arizona played that was probably the worst game of 444 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: the year last week. You know, Arizona did not play well. 445 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: When it comes to taking ugly underdogs, the number one 446 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: thing I'm looking for is a team that fights, and 447 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: Arizona has shown me all year they're gonna fights. You know, 448 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: they're down two touchdowns, they're not laying down. They continue 449 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: to you know, and that is meaningful when you talk 450 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: about the psychology of the game. Yeah, we know Arizona. 451 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: We coming in season, Arizona was lined at four and 452 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: a half weeks. They were the lowest power rated team 453 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: in the league, and they played better than expected. The 454 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: first few weeks, had that big upset over Dallas, and 455 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: next thing, you know, Arizona's power rated too high. The 456 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, we've seen the market kind of 457 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: crash on the Cardinals, and I think it's a good 458 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: Bilo sign for a team that I expect to give 459 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 3: a good effort in just the Seahawks, team that I 460 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: do not trust laying more than seven. 461 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: Points in the divisional matchup. Just don't like Seattle in 462 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 5: that favorite role. 463 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: I think I tried that with Carolina on the road 464 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: and Andy Dalton was pretty tremendous. He had like three 465 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: hundred fifty yards passing and I'm waiting, I'm waiting, and 466 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: Seattle just they didn't stop scoring. They don't take their 467 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: foot off the gas. The run game is strong. I 468 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: think Arizona's been scored outscored like sixty to seven in 469 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: the fourth court, some insane number. But you got a 470 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 2: great point there. 471 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 5: Listen. 472 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: You know teams that fight, they qualify. Is there a 473 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: team you haven't seen any fight from, you know, that's 474 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: actually playing this week as opposed to say a Carolina, 475 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: What about say the New York Giants. Interesting line, they're 476 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: underdogs at home. To Sam Howell, I last checked and 477 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: this was it's is it a three two and a half, 478 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: but looking like at at at Chris and Super Book, 479 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: it looks like it's a juiced two and a half. 480 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: Out there. 481 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: So essentially Sam Howells laying points on the road like 482 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: if you just do a hard stop at that sentence, 483 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: I think it's is it instantly New York Giants are 484 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: passed for you? 485 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I want no part of this. 486 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: So when you talk so there are multiple this game. 487 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: Let's start with this. Home field advantage in the NFL 488 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: this season has been worth pretty close to zero. All right, 489 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: if you're playing road teams and unders you cast sixty 490 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: percent plus in both categories so far. All right, So 491 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: we talked about, oh the Giants here at home? Okay, 492 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: who cares? Makes no difference? 493 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: All right? 494 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: Washington Atlanta. Washington lost at home in Chicago and then 495 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: one on the road last week. It's not anything about 496 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: the home field, and in fact, in general, I'm looking 497 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: to take road teams before home teams. 498 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Howell, I think cashed in Denver. Did not know 499 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: that Chicago game was at home and then he cashed 500 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Oh interesting, Yeah, so Howell's actually played decently 501 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on the road. I hadn't even considered that. 502 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: Well, So there's also a funaments matches the line of 503 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: scrimmage in this bog major. I mean, why are the 504 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: Giants train wreck? Simple? 505 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: The offensive line hasn't been able to do anything. And 506 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: when your offensive line can't open holes for the running 507 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: game and they can't protect the quarterback from anyone blitzing 508 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: or any kind of pass rush, guess what your offense 509 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: stinks and your team loses. Well, what's the strength of 510 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: the Commanders is that defensive front? So you have Washington's 511 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: defensive front, which four former first round draft poist depicts 512 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: people at dominating a game. I guess the team that 513 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: has no offensive line, I can lay less than a 514 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: field goal on that spot. I can without question or pause. 515 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: Interesting and especially, I mean the Giants game everything they 516 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: had against Buffalo and should have had a beaten, found 517 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: a way to lose the game. Sometimes teams bounce back 518 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: strong off of those demoralizing losses, surprisingly strong. 519 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna convince that's gonna be the case for 520 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 5: the Chief. 521 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like you like Washington. Listen all the stuff 522 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: we're saying obviously we know is baked into the line 523 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: and Wig Martindales loves to blitz, and Sam Howell has 524 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: been a disaster under pressure of the season. I just teddy, 525 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: I pulled up the Giants schedule, So here are there 526 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: offensive outputs last three games. Buffalo zero touchdowns, Miami zero 527 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: offensive touchdowns, Seattle zero offensive touchdowns, and San Francisco which 528 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: September twenty first, was one offensive touchdown. So they've had 529 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: They've haven't been able to do anything in the last 530 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: three weeks offensively. And I just saw the injury report. 531 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: They're starting five offensive linemen from the beginning of the season. 532 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: All of them are on the injury report. It doesn't 533 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: look like they'll go. And Tyrod Taylor is slated to 534 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: play now. I know, you know some people are like, well, 535 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones kills Washington. JA did you see the numbers? 536 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: Five win and one against the spread? He runs all 537 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: over him. I don't know that Daniel Jones is gonna 538 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: play any thoughts on like Brian Dable coming off the 539 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: emotional game in Buffalo where he was extremely frustrated with 540 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: Taylor at the end of the half, end of the game, 541 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: they come up short. We know he was heavily invested 542 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: against his former team. You know, I know this is 543 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: a divisional matchup against Washington, but how does that factor 544 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: in at all? If anything? 545 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the thing that people like to 546 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: do is try to come up with rationale for whatever 547 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: side they like, so like, oh, this team doesn't care 548 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: about this game, or oh they're supermotive, And the reality 549 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: is that when you watch teams down the field, it 550 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: rarely plays out like the pundits, like the talking heads 551 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: like us say oh yeah, yeah, well that team wasn't 552 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: motivated or so. I mean, a lot of it is 553 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 3: just it's just fodder. You know, there's lots of podcasts 554 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: out there. Everyone's got to have stuff to say, Oh, 555 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: this team doesn't care, that team not. I talk with 556 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall, the former Broncos line back. Okay, I won 557 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl tell and I asked him about tank. 558 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, what do you do with the bad teams team? 559 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: He's like, there's not a player on any team, not 560 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: one that's interested in tanking. Everyone's fighting for their job. 561 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to think about what the you know, nobody 562 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: wants to get our higher draft choice. There's a better 563 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: rookie coming in to take your position. So the players, 564 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: the effort's gonna be there. Largely, we game week out. 565 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have a bad team. And Brian foll 566 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: last year the Giants Overchiefs and I love them over 567 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: cheasing at an overchieve and had a season win bet 568 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: on the Giants over there win total. I thought the 569 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: ball was gonna come in there and have an instant impact. 570 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: And I thought, Danny Dimes is playing for one hundred 571 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 3: million dollar contract. 572 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 5: He's a smart kid. This is the one year he's 573 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 5: gonna be good. And he was. 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: They were good enough, and they stole a bunch of games. 575 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: But everyone coming into this year expected regression from the time. 576 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 5: It's just everyone. 577 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: Every one of the sharp betterers that I talked to 578 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: in Vegas who I respect, expected regression from the Giants. 579 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: They were a lucky team last year. This year so far, 580 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: they've been un lucky. But when your offensive line is 581 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: a sieve, it doesn't matter. Any other position on the 582 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: field doesn't matter. If your offsive line is a sieve, 583 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: your season's over. And that's the story for the g 584 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: Men right now. So I don't care if Danny Dimes 585 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: plays or if Tyron Tailor plays, makes no difference to me. Yeah, 586 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: they're both in the same quarterback this week because they're 587 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: playing behind an offsive line. 588 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: They can't This Cleveland Indianapolis game is kind of sort 589 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: of fascinating. So the deshow on Watson aspect of it. 590 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: He came back to practice on Thursday and is throwing 591 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: the line bumps up to three Cleveland favorite on the road. 592 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland off a massive win. They won the Super Bowl 593 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: beating the Niners. I don't know if you heard with 594 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: you know, what's his name? Ford and whoever the quarterback was, 595 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm spacing on him, but he's PJ. Yeah. So they 596 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: take down mighty San Francisco. You're number one power rated team, 597 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: everybody's number one team, and now they got to go 598 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: on the road to face Gardner Minshew, who vomited all 599 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: over himself. Of course, I had Minshew in the Colts 600 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: last week. I hit them in Baltimore, one of my 601 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: better wins of the season, and I was on him 602 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: last week and I watched that came closely Teddy. It's 603 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: impossible to get into the mindset, but when it was 604 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: basically determined Richardson's gonna be done for the season. Like 605 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: the day before the game, I was like, damn it, 606 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm on the wrong side. Now. The pressure's on Gardner. 607 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: Minshew's not just a relief pitcher here. He's their guy 608 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: the rest of the way. And it looked like he 609 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: was out there trying to prove something. And he had 610 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: so many overthrows that were horrible interceptions. It's not like 611 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: the Jags were making plays like Minshew is overthrowing guys 612 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: by four yards and it's like right into the safety's 613 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: bread basket fumbled. It was brutal. Colts is disappointing. I 614 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: just wonder Shane Stik and Minshew against the best defense 615 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: in the league that's allowed the fewest yards in the 616 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: last sixty years through six games or whatever it is. 617 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: Is there a case for the culture at Home getting points? 618 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, there's a case for the cults. The case 619 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: is so there's there's a triple case for the cults, right, 620 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: gonna make three favorable points for Indy. 621 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 5: First, Cleveland's power rated wrong right now. 622 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: Their defensive numbers are off the charts good, they're not sustainable, 623 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: they're not realistic. You know they won last week as 624 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: a miss field goal. You know that's how they won 625 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: the game. They but Cleveland's defensive numbers have created that. Again, 626 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: what are the wise guys looking at. They're looking at 627 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: these defensive status think the Browns of the best defense 628 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL and is not close And I say, 629 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, tap to break through. 630 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: Cleveland has a good defense, a very good defense. 631 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: I may have the best defense in the league, but 632 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: it's not head and shoulders ahead of every other team. 633 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: But that's what the numbers say right now. So that's 634 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: why they're laying the field goal on the road. So 635 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: I think Cleveland's power rated roun number two. PJ Walker 636 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: cannot lay points on the road. Okay, everything about PJ Walker, 637 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: every interview you read about him, every coach is quarterback. 638 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: Everybody loves PJ. Walker. 639 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: Okay, he is a high character individual. He is a 640 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: benefit to a locker room. But PJ Walker is not 641 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: an NFL starting quarterback. PJ Walker on a list of backups, 642 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: in my mind, would be adder near the bottom. He's 643 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: just not capable of making quick decision throws downfield. It's 644 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: all gonna be dank and dunk with PJ. Walker, And 645 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: that's not where I want to lay. Again, a field 646 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: goal win doesn't do any good. You gotta win by 647 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: more than a field goal to cover this number. 648 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: So there's another case. So you make a case for Indy. 649 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: And of course you're getting into you talked about what 650 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: happened last week, right, here's Cleveland coming off a huge win. 651 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: Here's Indy coming off a pretty ugly loss. 652 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: You know, somehow in a week where every game cashed 653 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: unders and in a season where it's sixty one for 654 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: cent or sixty two undred so far, you lost a 655 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: bet in that game. I lost an under bet in 656 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: that game in a large part because Minshew was overthrowing 657 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: everyone and throwing after pick. You know, between them, they 658 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: didn't have six hundred yards of offense and they finished 659 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: with fifty seven points. So but the bottom line is, 660 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: from a spot standpoint, in general, in the NFL, you 661 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: want to bet on the team that lost and against 662 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: the team that won, unless the team that won is elite, 663 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: and unless the team that lost is a bottom feeder, 664 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 3: unless he just strenks you're riding. I don't look at 665 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: Indy as a true bottom feeder, and I don't look 666 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: at Cleveland as elite in general. When you look at 667 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: the teams in the middle, you only betting on the 668 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: teams off a loss and against the teams off a win. 669 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: And that's the case you have for any now Yeah, no, no, 670 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean I'm not actually betting Indy, right, I don't 671 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: trust me, trust him. It's a good defense. There's a 672 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: case to be made for Indianapolis. 673 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: So maybe you just take the under and then turn 674 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: the turn the game off. You don't have to watch 675 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: that drek if it's if it is PJ. 676 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: Walker, I wouldn't talk yet of it. 677 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: So so let me ask you, though, what's the psychology 678 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: between with the line moving from two and a half 679 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: to three? Is your guest that big money came in 680 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: with the Watson practicing report and we got to get 681 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: to three? And are people just grabbing the eye? Gotta 682 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: grab two and a half in case Watson place, the 683 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 2: defense might be able to get me there. But if 684 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: Watson plays, I got to be on this and and 685 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: basically somebody bet it, and every every book moved to three. 686 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: What's your best guess as to what happened there? 687 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: So I don't want to promote myself on your show. 688 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: But I do a podcast their Monday morning called the 689 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: Opening line Man. If I opening lineuport yep or the 690 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: way you're talking, If i'll opening line report, I talk 691 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: about where the lines are and where they're likely to 692 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 3: move and why they're likely to move there you can 693 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: get a sense, if you've been doing this for a 694 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: long time, as to what the EBB and flow of 695 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: the markets are. We talk about this going from two 696 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: and a half to three, and again there were books 697 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: that opened three, there were books that opened one and 698 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: a half. The markets settled at two and a half, 699 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: and then there was a market move where they took 700 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: out all the you know, the one group or another 701 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: took out all the two and a halfs and pushed 702 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: it up to three. What could that be? It could 703 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: be as simple as something as simple as well, my 704 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: algo says that the line should be three and a half. 705 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: So let's take all the two. 706 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 5: And a halfs out. 707 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be any great giant reason. 708 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 5: It just could be. 709 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: This is what that program, you know, their particular algorithm 710 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: for what they're betting on, spit out a three and 711 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: a half and the line was two and a half. Boom, 712 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: They'll take out all the two and a halfs in 713 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: that regard, because when you've been doing this at that level, 714 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: when you're betting at a professional level, you trust your 715 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: numbers for real. So I can't tell you exactly why 716 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: it moved, but oftentimes just moves because that's that's the 717 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: way the wise guys like, or this particular group of wise. 718 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 5: Guys liked it. 719 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: Probably the grossest bet that and I haven't been able 720 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: to pull the trigger yet just because they sickened me 721 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: to my core. But I was on Mac Jones and 722 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: the Patriots last week as well. He takes that safety, 723 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: it goes from two and a half to four and 724 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: a half, four, and you know the cover is blown 725 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: in the final ninety seconds. Very frustrating. They are getting 726 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: eight and a half at home. I saw this crazy stat. 727 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: This is the most points they've gotten at home since 728 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: Tom Brady's home opener back in like, you know, whenever 729 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: the Stone Age, when Tom Brady was a quarterback. I 730 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 2: don't know, Teddy, I see eight and a half. I'm like, 731 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Josh Allen's got like a throwing shoulder thing. It's weird 732 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: that the Bills have been pretty open about it. The 733 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: Bill's defense has a myriad of injuries. Something seems off 734 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: about Buffalo. I said there this summer their Super Bowl 735 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 2: window would be closing, and like, basically I was banned 736 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: from going to the city. I don't know. It just 737 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: feels like maybe this is the spot for the Patriots. 738 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: Now we've been hearing that. A bunch of people were like, oh, 739 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: it's a spot against the Saints. Come on, Derek Carr 740 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: in a beltic. No, that was wrong. Cowboys, that was 741 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: very wrong. And the Raiders now also wrong. It's gonna 742 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: take a lot of intestinal fortitude to back mac Jones here. 743 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: But it is eight and a half big enough for you, say, 744 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: you to give out to your clients. 745 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: Nope, sure, So New England might be the worst team 746 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: in the league, all right, it's. 747 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 5: Very hard Carolina. 748 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if you're great at the personnel, it's not close. 749 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: New England has a weaker personnel than Carolina, you know, 750 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a there's. 751 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 5: Look at that. So. 752 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: One of the things that was so great about the 753 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: Patriots for so long was every year there's seventh rounders 754 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: were better than other teams second rounders. You look at 755 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: the Patriots last five, six, seven years worth of drafts. 756 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: There's nothing. 757 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: There's not an impact player year after year after year. Yeah, 758 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: that organization is devoid of talent. And I have a 759 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: hard time trying to make money with the very worst teams. 760 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: It's hard to make money with the very worst teams. 761 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: They're banned and they're used to and the other it 762 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: happens is that they're so used to the other shoe dropping. 763 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: You know what happened last week. It was a good punt. 764 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: They pinned them deep, other than the other shoe drops. 765 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: So well, take the safety and I will try an 766 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: on side punt, you know, and there's your cover. Oh sorry, 767 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: Patriots are going on on the field and expecting to 768 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: lose these days. 769 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: You're right. 770 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 5: The Raiders is terrible. The Raiders are definitely not a 771 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 5: good team. 772 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: Uh. And the fact that New England, you know again was. 773 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 5: I mean, they were competitive in the game, kind of 774 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 5: they got a little large. 775 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 3: The game they weren't. The first half was ugly. I 776 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: don't want the Patriots. It's not enough points, especially with 777 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: Buffalo coming. 778 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 5: Off a loss. 779 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo coming off a loss field well, a non cover, 780 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: You're right, it feels like a bit of a good spot, 781 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: all right. Teddy, Well, I guess we could wrap up 782 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: like obviously you're you're you know, selling picks to clients, 783 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: so you don't we don't have to reveal anything you 784 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: don't want to. But is there anything you've given out 785 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: that is moved that you don't mind sharing or whether 786 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: side or total. Obviously our group like sides. We have 787 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people who entered the Circa contest who 788 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: listen to this and the super Book one as well, 789 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 2: so they would love to hear your thoughts. 790 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 3: Sure, and look, the bottom line is when I come 791 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: on a podcast like I'll give you everything I got, 792 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate the opportunity and clients don't love it when 793 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: you give out your card, but sometimes life happens. 794 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: So certainly, a couple of games that I'm looking at. 795 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 3: I talked about Washington, you know Washington game that I'm 796 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: looking at absolutely this week I'm looking at a LANDA 797 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: plus the points in Tampa. 798 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: Interesting. 799 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: I do like that Falcons defense a lot. B Jeon 800 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 3: Robinson over twenty four and a half receiving yards. There's 801 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: your probit this week. 802 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask Atlanta on the road in Tampa. 803 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: I know it's not like inclement weather or anything. Ritter 804 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: has been a house of horrors away from home. Baker 805 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: Mayfield and company off a loss. But you you like 806 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: the Tampa def or the Atlanta defense here against Baker. 807 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: Sure, I don't think Tampa's not a team uncomfortable laying 808 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: points with, all right, and I certainly look at the 809 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: Atlanta side in that ball game. And again, Ritter, how 810 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: do we phrase this politely? 811 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 5: I don't. Yeah, he's so, he's he's on a list 812 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 5: of your your your quarterbacks. 813 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: You're excited about Baking dismon Ritters not there in a 814 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 3: way that you know. 815 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 5: I don't know the Baker Mayfield is there either, but. 816 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta is very much So there's urgency in Atlanta. Let's 817 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: start with that, all right. Arthur Smith don't keep his 818 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 3: job if that team doesn't have a winning record this year. 819 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: There's urgency from the front office that there's the coach. 820 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: Every win they made this off sea, every move they 821 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: made this off this beast offseason was win now, win 822 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: this year, et cetera, et cetera. They have the schedule 823 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: to do it. And Tampa, their defense is decent, They're 824 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 3: not anywhere close to being an elite team. And at 825 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: two and a half, we. 826 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 5: Could see threes by kickoff. 827 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: But I'm comfortable with that landa plus doing with them 828 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 3: on the money line, I think they win the game. 829 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: I don't hate that. Yeah. Anything on Detroit Baltimore, which 830 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 2: is crazily like one of the better games. I see 831 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: this massive divide among you know, random people I follow 832 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: who I consider insightful and and smart, A lot of 833 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: them like Baltimore here. Now we got to see the 834 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Lions injury report. You know, they didn't have a run 835 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: game without Montgomery. He's basically not gonna play. We don't 836 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: know about Gibbs, GoF outdoors. It looks like there could 837 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 2: be some win, but not you know, terrible weather. A 838 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: lot of people on Baltimore here, I'm I haven't. This 839 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: will definitely be the toughest opponent the Ravens have played. 840 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: They haven't played anybody, really. I mean, look, you look 841 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: at weak schedules and opposing quarterbacks. I mean, they faced 842 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: two rookies, including Stroud in his debut, Like they faced 843 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: some bad quarter a half of Malik What's willis last week? 844 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Like they face ghastly quarterbacks. Anything on Lions Ravens. 845 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: So in mind is a hard game and I'm not 846 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: gonna play it. So let me start there smart Yep, Yeah, 847 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 3: I mean it really is. I heard, I'm so reported 848 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: they think Jamiir Gibbs is gonna go and be good 849 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: to go, so they'll have a running back. But you know, 850 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean the NFL is none of all the injuries 851 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: that don't matter, running back is. 852 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 5: The injury that doesn't matter is. 853 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: The least and honest, like, oh, they're down in their 854 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: third string running back. Who cares? They're thirstring running back 855 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: you know, ran for eight yards of carrying college and 856 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 3: is everything. You know, maybe half a step slower around 857 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: one hundred yard dash than the than the first string back. 858 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: But it's not like you can't play and you can't block. 859 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: So of all we talk about injuries that don't matter 860 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: in this league, running back injuries, you know, addre near 861 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: the top of the list that said it feels like 862 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: Detroit has been under. It feels like they've been under 863 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: out of commodity to the tune of five and one 864 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: ats this year twenty eight and well against the spread 865 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: in the Dan Campbell era. And you can ask fifty 866 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: people at the bar, Hey, who's the best points bread 867 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 3: coach in football since twenty twenty one. 868 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 5: You're not gonna get a whole lot of Dan Campbell's 869 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 5: as the answer. 870 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: But Detroit's been the undevowed commodity in the league for 871 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: three seasons running now, so there's something to be said 872 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 3: for that. But Goff is one QB who does have 873 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: a home road dichotomy, and it's very clear every year 874 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: has been in Detroit, his QB are twenty five points 875 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: lower on the road than it is at home. This 876 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: is a real defense Detroit's facing. They struggle against a 877 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: real defense little bit last week, and Baltimore is not 878 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 3: a team that I'm in a big rush to step 879 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 3: in front of right now. So it's just for me, 880 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: the line is right. I'm kind of hoping the Ravens win. 881 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: In fact, I love the Ravens to kill him. That 882 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: might be my best case scenario. I think there's money 883 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: to be made back in Detroit. We look at the 884 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: packing order in the NFC at San fran Dallas, Philly 885 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 3: and then what and I think Detroit deserves to be. 886 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: Detroit or Detroit ter Dallas. Who are you backing on 887 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: a neutral right now? Well, maybe not right now, given 888 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: the injuries to the Lions backfield, but I would probably 889 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: lean Detroit at the right number. Dallas would be favored obviously. 890 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: So I spent you know again, I spent the better 891 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: part of a decade in Michigan, and when the Lions 892 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 3: get in the playoffs, we're not back in the lines. 893 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: I still remember the Stafford questionable. Was it a pi 894 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 2: or an interception? Against the Cowboys? Got to be eight 895 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: seven eight? Ten years ago and that costs me money. 896 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: I was on the Lions, very frustrating. I remember the 897 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: losses more than the wins. The wins I just expect 898 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: all the time. The losses stick with me, you know, yeah, 899 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: I know. 900 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look I can give you beats. I can give 901 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: you one beat after another. I can go back twenty 902 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 3: years worth of beats. And you say, okay, what about 903 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: the big wins. I'm like, well, I think I had 904 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 3: one once, you know. Yeah, the losses the seer their 905 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: way in your memory. You know, people still talk about 906 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 3: the Belk Bowl. You know, I still remember it. 907 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 5: Was this kay? 908 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: Wow? 909 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: Was that the Duke Belk Bowl? 910 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 5: Yes? 911 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: Yes, that was the Duke Cincinnati Belt Bowl where Duke 912 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 3: is driving in Duke plus eight and a half is 913 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: driving in for the game winning touchdown with under two 914 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: to play and failed to cover. Yes, that's the one 915 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 3: that we still talk about. 916 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: Staggering. All right, great stuff, Teddy covers. You could you 917 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: want to give out like you got a newsletter. People 918 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: to sign up for your service podcast. Whatever, Teddy, you 919 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: love your stuff? 920 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 5: Man, Sure, man, you're visit me. 921 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 3: The website is wagertalk dot com. You can follow me 922 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: on Twitter at Teddy Underscore Covers. 923 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: Awesome man, Thanks a lot, Teddy, good luck this weekend. 924 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 5: Pleasures mine man, thanks for having me. Enjoyed it very much. 925 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular season 926 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: is here. 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We're aligned on a lot of games, but 945 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like he likes him as much as 946 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 2: I do. Best Bet will be obviously condemned this week. 947 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: Listen here. Here's the tough part about you know, doing 948 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: this on Friday, and if you just tuned in Friday 949 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 2: for the picks and you're not listening on Monday, Tuesday, 950 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: ondnes all every other day, some of the lines are 951 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: no longer there. Philadelphia Eagles, I mean, if you guys, 952 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite sides of the weekend. I 953 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: don't know how you can take the Dolphins in the 954 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: spot everything for me lines up Eagles obviously, the only 955 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 2: two negatives would be Lane Johnson and the Eagles cluster 956 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: injuries in the secondary. But this is just gonna be 957 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 2: a bully fest in Philadelphia running the football. You know 958 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 2: the tendencies of Vic Fangio's defense. He doesn't want to 959 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: give you anything deep. He'll give you the underneath stuff. 960 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 2: Well guess what, Eagles are fine taking the underneath stuff. Obviously, 961 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,479 Speaker 2: the Vonta Smith injury could be significant, but I don't 962 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 2: see Miami stopping the run. Philadelphia at home Sunday night. 963 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 2: You know, you got the Phillies on the cusp of 964 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 2: the World Series. You've got the Eagles, one of the 965 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: best teams in the NFC, coming off a Super Bowl. 966 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: Like everything's It's a very exciting time right now if 967 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 2: you're a Philadelphia sports fan, except the six of course, 968 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 2: with the James Harden situation. But I can see this 969 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 2: crowd really juiced up, probably in the forties. It looks like, 970 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 2: according to the weather, this will be Miami's coldest game. 971 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: And think about this, anybody who's ever played any level 972 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 2: of sports, Right, you play two of the worst teams 973 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: in the league back to back, Giants and Carolina, and 974 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 2: I'm talking these are two of the four worst teams 975 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: in the league back to back. Then you got to 976 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: and that was at home, by the way, and then 977 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 2: you gotta go on the road into Philly hostile territory 978 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: to take on one of the toughest teams in the league. 979 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 2: That will definitely be the best defense you've seen. And 980 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: it's like, this is gonna be a massive, massive challenge 981 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: for Miami and Mike McDaniel. I like McDaniel a lot, 982 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: but Eagles are definitely aside. They will lead my card 983 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 2: for the contest. Number two in the contest, but overall 984 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: it was a number one pick. Obviously. If you guys 985 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: have been around this week, Seattle Seahawks, here's what stinks. 986 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 2: Of course, I love the Seahawks. Earlier in the week, 987 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: took them at eight. The line goes down. Now, a 988 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: lot of that was due to Seattle Seahawks injuries on 989 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 2: the injury report. I'm calling that up now. And this 990 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: is where it gets odd. It's like, okay, so Wednesday, 991 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: Seattle offensive lineman missed time, Zach Charbonnay, the backup running 992 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: back DK Metcalf sat out. Metcalf was out again Thursday. 993 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: The center's out and it's like, oh, what's going on? Well, 994 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: Charles cross back at practice. Locket's fine, and you just 995 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: wonder how many of these Seahawks guys are gonna go 996 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 2: the game against since he was obviously physical, but Metcalf 997 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: never misses time, he doesn't miss and is Arizona's defensive 998 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 2: line even gonna be able to take advantage of a 999 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: potential offensive line injury or two to Seattle? Now the 1000 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: divisional matchup scares me, but you know, just from my 1001 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 2: point of view, I feel like this is a big 1002 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 2: time Seattle spot. We're seeing Arizona tail off. As I 1003 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 2: said in the Teddy interview, So Seahawks and Eagles for sure. 1004 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: Lions Ravens. I'm split. I did I looked hard at 1005 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 2: the Lions. You know, I don't want to give away 1006 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: too much, but I did. You know, when the producers 1007 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: for the Herd are like, hey, for headlines, who do 1008 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: you want? I said, Lions on Wednesday? And the more 1009 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 2: and more I think, I'm like, jeez, do I need 1010 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: to go Ravens. But the world seems to be on 1011 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens. You know, you look online and everybody's like, oh, Ravens, Ravens, 1012 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: come on, Ravens, and I just you look at who 1013 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: you look at who Baltimore's played, and this will be 1014 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: their toughest test by far. You know, it's one thing 1015 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 2: to face dtr And Gardner Minshew and Ryan Tannehills slash 1016 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: Malik Willis well Jared Goff has arguably the best offensive 1017 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: coordinator in the league. And Ben Johnson. Listen, you are 1018 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: buying at the top of the market. You know, it's 1019 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 2: like you're buying a stock. And after one of the 1020 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: greatest monthly reports that it's ever had, you know, it's 1021 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: on a like I saw Netflix this week since they 1022 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: stopped the password sharing, they got like eight million new 1023 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 2: subscribers in a quarter, the best quarter. So that would 1024 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: be like going and buying Netflix stock. That's equivalent of 1025 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: taking the Lions here. The only difference is the Lions 1026 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 2: are getting three points. Is Baltimore that much better? Is 1027 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: the win going to impact this game? Does that take 1028 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 2: away the Justin Tucker factor? I have him in fantasy, 1029 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: So obviously I'm looking at nerdy stuff like when but 1030 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: just I grabbed the Lions at three, I can see 1031 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: you taking Ravens at three. It doesn't seem like either 1032 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: way there's a ton of value. It's a fascinating game. 1033 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 2: There's every window has one really awesome game this week, 1034 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: and Lions Ravens at one pm is great. And I 1035 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 2: am stoked because I looked at my kid's soccer schedule 1036 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: and like two of the last three Sundays we've had 1037 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: soccer games. And let's say it ain't great when you're 1038 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: at a soccer game and you're trying to watch what's 1039 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: happening on Red Zone and obviously you can't jump online 1040 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: and make commentary or see what other games are happening 1041 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: because you're on Red Zone, can't check your fantasy and 1042 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 2: you're trying to watch your kid play soccer and talking 1043 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 2: to parents and stuff. So no soccer this weekend. I 1044 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 2: will be locked in Red Zone and the local games 1045 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 2: and the local games. I don't know. Ram Steelers is 1046 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: kind of sneaky good. I'm staying away from this one. 1047 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: My play would be would be Jacksonville. I'm not jack Sorry, 1048 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 2: not Jacksonville. My play in this one would be, and 1049 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: I say would be, would be the Pittsburgh Steelers. The 1050 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: problem is it burned me a couple times a season. 1051 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 2: Now they're getting healthier with Deontay Johnson. Obviously that's massive. 1052 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: I love Deontay Johnson as a receiver. He'll open up 1053 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 2: things for Pickens. Pickens has been facing number one receivers. 1054 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 2: Well now I'm sorry number one cornerback, So now the 1055 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: number one corner has to shift to Deontay Johnson. Pittsburgh 1056 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: coming off the bye, I think I saw stat that 1057 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 2: Tomlin has won his last six off of bye. And again, 1058 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: who knows what that's where Tomlin is an underdog. We've 1059 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 2: seen that narrative. It just feels like Pittsburgh could be 1060 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: the side. I just I this Rams team doesn't quit. 1061 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 2: So again, this is another one that's three, and I'm 1062 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,439 Speaker 2: probably gonna have to to dodge it. I did take 1063 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns at minus minus two and a half. 1064 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 2: It's a little juiced. Mostly it's three now because what's 1065 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: his face? Deshaun Watson may return to the starting lineup. Listen, 1066 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 2: you never want to take the Browns off a big 1067 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 2: win like this. They're Cleveland like historically, this is what 1068 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 2: the Browns do. They fail, fall flat on their face 1069 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 2: in a spot like this. I don't know. Contest contest 1070 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: line is three, you know, I don't know. Can I 1071 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: do that? Does it make any sense? This is a 1072 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 2: tough week. I like the games and I feel confident 1073 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 2: in the sides, but when it comes to this contest, 1074 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: guys like some of these lines like three, Come on, 1075 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 2: what's the value in taking three when you ultimately it's 1076 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: probably gonna end up on three, the most common number 1077 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL for landing, and you get to tie. 1078 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: You know, I off a two and three week, I 1079 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: need to deliver, so I may I may try some 1080 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 2: wackiness and go Patriots, you know, getting eight and a half, 1081 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 2: which I don't know that I could stomach those scrubs. 1082 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: It's just so annoying to back them. You saw last 1083 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 2: week with the Raiders total disaster. I kind of want 1084 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 2: Kansas City. If you guys remember the interview with Rufus 1085 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 2: this week, he had Kansas City his numbers say nine? 1086 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 2: Why is it five and a half? Divisional matchup? Always 1087 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 2: take the dog, blah blah blah. But I don't know. 1088 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm kind of a kind of sort of leaning a 1089 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: little bit toward Kansas City. But a big favorite, like 1090 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: we know Mahomes doesn't really cover, is a huge favorite. 1091 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: It's a tough one. I do like Washington at the Giants. 1092 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 2: You heard me and Teddy go back and forth on 1093 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: that one, and I did not end up submitting the 1094 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: Saints in the contest. Uh, so you know I dodged 1095 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: one there. But now I gotta find three more picks 1096 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: after the Seahawks and Eagles. So it's gonna be an 1097 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: interesting weekend for sure. I'll tell you this, I cannot 1098 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 2: imagine backing the Bear like Bears Raiders is like a 1099 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 2: fun game, Like I think the Bears probably wouldn't that, Like, 1100 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 2: why is Brian Hoyer favored by three on the road, Well, 1101 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 2: he's facing someone named Tyson Badgent whoever, whoever the heck 1102 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 2: that is. I can't imagine taking that game. And then 1103 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 2: and then we want to we look hard at Atlanta. 1104 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: Teddy Covers had some interesting comments on Atlanta, and I 1105 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 2: kind of want to take them. But Ritter Away from 1106 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: Home has been just extremely putrid. So every game has 1107 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: some wartz except for the ones I like. And I'll 1108 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: tell you the last one that I'm probably gonna end 1109 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,479 Speaker 2: up on in the contest that nobody's gonna like Big 1110 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 2: favorite San Francisco Monday Night Football. It sounds like McCaffrey's Okay, 1111 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: I just I cannot imagine them playing him. I heard 1112 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: something fascinating from Albert Breer this week about how the 1113 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: turf at Minnesota is like one of three turf fields left, 1114 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 2: and we know turf injuries are way higher than they 1115 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: are with grass injuries. Is there a chance the Niners, say, 1116 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: debo Ce mac, let's power down. We'll get out of 1117 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: here with the win. We should be able to handle 1118 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and company. Let's not risk anything. And then 1119 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 2: it's like, ooh, can they get margin without their superstars? 1120 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 2: We'll see. I just like Shanahan off, a loss feels automatic, 1121 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: so I'll probably almost certainly take the Niners. All right, everybody, 1122 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: have a great weekend. We'll be back on Monday. Should 1123 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: be a monster week. NBA tips off next week. Talk 1124 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: to you then,