Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Are we ready?
Speaker 3: This is so professional? I don't feel qualified. I don't
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I don't know if it's the
Speaker 3: ring light or if it's the little mic. I think
Speaker 3: it's this, the little Mike Cassen. We got to step
Speaker 3: up our.
Speaker 2: Game, ladies.
Speaker 3: You know. I mean I just this new format, knew
Speaker 3: us knew like we knew new reviews. People seem to
Speaker 3: be liking it.
Speaker 2: I get, so it's right.
Speaker 4: Well, I texted you, ladies. I had to give a
Speaker 4: little I had to play, have a little fun.
Speaker 1: With and you've done that twice to me this week,
Speaker 1: and I just any.
Speaker 3: Way, I facetimed you their day. You didn't call me
Speaker 3: back as you. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't really look at my face times because I
Speaker 1: hate FaceTime, so I don't look at them.
Speaker 3: So sorry.
Speaker 1: Remember when you texted me and you were like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you're not going to believe this, and then
Speaker 1: you went away.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't literally handle that.
Speaker 3: The ultimate cliffhanger. That's what she does. She's like, you
Speaker 3: guys are never going to guess, and we're both like,
Speaker 3: what what you know?
Speaker 2: How many scenarios when I made up in my mind?
Speaker 3: What did you think I had so many? Tell me
Speaker 3: one I really can't. I'll tell you later. The the
Speaker 3: first one that I no, you have to can't. Yes,
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 2: I can't because it's about other people. I can't.
Speaker 1: Oh like friends, kind of, yes, kind of all of
Speaker 1: the above. But I just you know, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I already made us about.
Speaker 2: Scenario.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, she was just at this,
Speaker 1: so she was around these people. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: what my brain does when you walk away. Just so
Speaker 1: you're clear, that's.
Speaker 3: So funny, really ruminate. Oh yeah, and scenario I'm allergic
Speaker 3: to kale And we're like, all.
Speaker 2: Right, was that way a little bit?
Speaker 3: Don't you guys know me well enough to know that, No.
Speaker 2: It could go either way.
Speaker 1: Oh true, And even if it was a huge deal,
Speaker 1: you'd still walk away and then come back to it
Speaker 1: an hour later.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean we were having a mental breakdown or
Speaker 4: right there? I yes, I threw up kale rights.
Speaker 2: Anyway, back to what we were saying.
Speaker 3: That's what we were saying.
Speaker 4: People seem to be loving this new format, which we
Speaker 4: love you guys, Thanks for hanging on tight with us
Speaker 4: the Mirror posportive.
Speaker 1: I know your post the other day where someone said
Speaker 1: kit Kat like literally like made me smile so big.
Speaker 2: It was I love that they've picked up KitKat.
Speaker 3: I know, oops, that's okay, right, Okay, okay, it's cute. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're not laughing making fun of.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: This is happy.
Speaker 3: I would like even going to ocean mode. I just
Speaker 3: was making sure that you're not like, okay, now I
Speaker 3: have it was cute, okay. I also loved how many
Speaker 3: people talked about what you were going through maybe funny enough.
Speaker 3: In that same week, I had a therapy session around
Speaker 3: it around family, primarily uh well, I would say, it's
Speaker 3: both my mom and dad. But there was something that
Speaker 3: happened at Jolie's softball game and it was between It
Speaker 3: was actually between Alan and I and it wasn't like
Speaker 3: we didn't have like a fight or anything, but I
Speaker 3: told you know, he ended up He ended up coming
Speaker 3: with Roman and Jolie was up to bat. It was
Speaker 3: her first softball game in the season. I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: can you come get Roman? And later on he's like,
Speaker 3: why didn't you just like, why did you need me
Speaker 3: to come ground. I was like I and I started
Speaker 3: kind of talking about that in therapy, and my core
Speaker 3: of it was I was like, my mom never went
Speaker 3: to one competition ever. No, she never came to a
Speaker 3: skating competition. And my therapist is like, well, who drove
Speaker 3: I was like my coach, I was like, no, granted, yes,
Speaker 3: did my mom have to work, Yes she did, and
Speaker 3: I want to you know, I understand that our parents
Speaker 3: had jobs, but it's something that I remember as a kid,
Speaker 3: not having my mom there. Now I understand. And then
Speaker 3: my dad same thing, like he never came to to
Speaker 3: a skating at practices or anything, something that's always ingrained
Speaker 3: in me. I was like, so it's really And I
Speaker 3: was able to have a really nice kind of full
Speaker 3: circle moment with Alan to be like, hey, I know
Speaker 3: why now, I asked, and why I can't understand why.
Speaker 3: You were like, why can't you just watch him?
Speaker 4: I was like, but to me, I want to be
Speaker 4: so present for my kids at games because I didn't
Speaker 4: have that. And then I also saw when we were
Speaker 4: at Jace's, I saw your your father in law or
Speaker 4: your your father in law there and I was like, what.
Speaker 3: A grandparent And it just kind of made me think
Speaker 3: too how nice it would be to have that, you know,
Speaker 3: support and people watching and stuff, which then brought me
Speaker 3: back to u KB. But it was interesting because I
Speaker 3: do want to bring up one of the comments on
Speaker 3: the page. I'm tender today. I know, Okay, okay, all
Speaker 3: that time, I know, but I want to come in
Speaker 3: with that morning. But I also I almost I started
Speaker 3: to comment back to it because I think I like
Speaker 3: people going on our wind down page and having comments
Speaker 3: in favor and not in favor totally. Let's let's chat
Speaker 3: about it, right, And so one of the comments I
Speaker 3: wanted to come to your defense in it, but I
Speaker 3: stopped myself because I'm like, it's not really my defense
Speaker 3: to do for you. So I thought this is a
Speaker 3: good opportunity to bring it up on the shop for
Speaker 3: perfect I love it, but no, it's good she allergic
Speaker 3: to Kale. No, but it's a good point because someone said,
Speaker 3: you know, Devil's advocate Kristen talks a lot about when
Speaker 3: her when Preston's family does come into town, it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't want them to come into town. But then
Speaker 3: she's saying, well, I need more help. So it's the
Speaker 3: contradiction between I'm like, but it's two different things, and
Speaker 3: I just want you to have a space to be
Speaker 3: able to talk about the fact that it's one is
Speaker 3: one is needing help in one. When they do come,
Speaker 3: it's not help, right, so I think, and I almost
Speaker 3: said this, but I didn't want it to come across.
Speaker 3: I wanted it to be fully just my experience and
Speaker 3: not throwing in money under the bus. Sure the help
Speaker 3: that they're not. I've told you guys this before. I
Speaker 3: learned very early on in being a mother with the
Speaker 3: sets of families that we have, that there's a difference
Speaker 3: between company and help. Yes, and my in laws are
Speaker 3: wonderful company. It is not their fault. It's also really
Speaker 3: hard because they're not in our every day. But when
Speaker 3: I tell you that, there is not enough GPS to
Speaker 3: get them from my house to a gas station. So
Speaker 3: if I was to and Preston and I even talked
Speaker 3: about this, you know, like what if they came to help,
Speaker 3: will put it in air quotes, like if they came
Speaker 3: to help, it would be so much else on me
Speaker 3: because he's not home, so he can't take care of
Speaker 3: them that weekend, like they need their own people. And
Speaker 3: and then I would run this risk of listen, I
Speaker 3: don't I think they could figure it out. Maybe I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to be rude when I say this, Like
Speaker 3: I have a mother in law that doesn't leave the
Speaker 3: house ever. So it's just like it would be a
Speaker 3: wild world for her out there. It would be overwhelming
Speaker 3: for her. And that kind of spills over to a
Speaker 3: six year old kid having to kind of be the
Speaker 3: adult in that situation, and I'm like, that's not fair
Speaker 3: to him either. So I kind of wanted yeah, that no,
Speaker 3: And I almost said that because I was like, I
Speaker 3: know what this looks like. But then I and I'll
Speaker 3: say this, I could call my mom and she could
Speaker 3: come into town too, And so I've had to.
Speaker 2: Weigh that out.
Speaker 4: Here's the problem with that piece, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: come to your with that. With that, and I understand
Speaker 4: that comes all the stuff that we're dealing with in
Speaker 4: therapy that is coming out that is hard to So
Speaker 4: it's like, do I want to have that anxious energy
Speaker 4: or and you know, have the help or do I
Speaker 4: just figure it out. It's it's a hard and.
Speaker 3: They don't know him super well. That's what I think.
Speaker 3: It's hard if you grow up in a town with
Speaker 3: your family. You can't imagine a world world where your
Speaker 3: your parents are your brothers and sisters don't know your
Speaker 3: kids at like the same level as your friends. But
Speaker 3: for us, our friends know our kids really well, and
Speaker 3: so it's more comforting for Legend and cool for Legend
Speaker 3: to have like the police family take him that day,
Speaker 3: which I've worked out, I think, and I'll still miss
Speaker 3: his game potentially, but we'll see, but at least he
Speaker 3: has people he does life with, he does dinners with,
Speaker 3: and he does you know, like so they'll be cheering
Speaker 3: him on and that'll be super rad for him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but I think it's cool from that
Speaker 4: is that a lot of people relate to that. They're
Speaker 4: also trying to figure out how to get to a
Speaker 4: B and C all the same time, So a lot
Speaker 4: of moms that can relate to that, I do.
Speaker 3: Catherine. Something else that you shared with me this week
Speaker 3: are do you want to talk about it on the podcast?
Speaker 3: Do you need a minute to think about it?
Speaker 2: Which one I'm just kidding. Yeah, what would you like?
Speaker 2: Sure we can talk about it?
Speaker 3: Is? Sure?
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?
Speaker 3: No? I know? Do you want to tell everybody. We
Speaker 3: gotta at least tell me.
Speaker 1: I know, I was trying to tell her where were
Speaker 1: coming in no, So I mean, yeah, I'm happy to share.
Speaker 1: And it's just the beginning of the journey of it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it'll be for me, But
Speaker 1: you know, I think I talked about a while back
Speaker 1: that I went on Pam's program that she has to
Speaker 1: lose weight before to get in shape and lose weight
Speaker 1: before your wedding.
Speaker 2: I did that.
Speaker 1: I lost about seventeen or so pounds, kind of leveled
Speaker 1: off right before your wedding, and that's like when it
Speaker 1: was over. And then from there I kind of just
Speaker 1: was done. And then I slowly and then quickly gained
Speaker 1: all my weight back and then plus a little bit.
Speaker 1: So long story short, went back to see, you know,
Speaker 1: one of our lovely functional medicine nurse practitioners or.
Speaker 2: Whatever they are that we love.
Speaker 1: We've got several of those, went and saw one and
Speaker 1: so he was like, I need these numbers down. It's
Speaker 1: not about the number on the scale, but these are
Speaker 1: the numbers that are important for your health. Let's get
Speaker 1: some of these numbers down. So then, long story short,
Speaker 1: I asked him, well, how do you feel about, you know,
Speaker 1: the weight loss shot, And he's like, I'm all for it,
Speaker 1: especially for what we need to do for you. We
Speaker 1: just need it for three to six months. So long
Speaker 1: story short started that on I started the triseeppetide on
Speaker 1: pound on Friday.
Speaker 2: How did you feel? Did you shoot? Give yourself?
Speaker 3: How did your friend do it?
Speaker 1: I did it because it came early. It was supposed
Speaker 1: to come like five days. It came the next day.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I really wanted to take it
Speaker 1: for the weekend because they suggest if you eat more
Speaker 1: on the weekends to take it like on Thursday or Friday,
Speaker 1: so you know and so, and I'm definitely a big
Speaker 1: eater on the weekends. So I went ahead and did
Speaker 1: it Friday. I was worried about how I would feel,
Speaker 1: but I really have felt totally fine.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's important because you've done the blood work.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like the professionals are always saying, I
Speaker 3: think the people that get the sickest are being prescribed
Speaker 3: or not the right amount, and they haven't done There's
Speaker 3: a lot of like shady clinics that have done this.
Speaker 1: There are, but I think a lot of it, and
Speaker 1: they give you a lot of tips. So you're starting
Speaker 1: at a very low dosage, so there is a chance
Speaker 1: when I up to my next dosage that I could
Speaker 1: feel sick, you know.
Speaker 3: So it depends a lot of times.
Speaker 1: They'll get to a certain dosage and that's your sign
Speaker 1: this dose is too high. You need to go back down,
Speaker 1: or you're dehydrated, you're not drinking enough water. Like they
Speaker 1: sent me so much information that I feel like I
Speaker 1: finally really understand it, and like drinking water thirty minutes
Speaker 1: before you eat in general, and not drinking water when
Speaker 1: you and all that, well that how it empties your
Speaker 1: stomach when it comes to this, and like all the things.
Speaker 1: So it's been very informational. I'm really excited about it
Speaker 1: because the reality is, at least for the last couple
Speaker 1: of days, I'm still eating. I have a big appetite.
Speaker 1: I'm still eating. I'm just getting full faster, and that's
Speaker 1: what I need. That's what I need for now because
Speaker 1: I am I have a very big appetite. I can
Speaker 1: snack a lot at night, and I have not wanted
Speaker 1: to snack at night one night since I've taken it.
Speaker 3: I could share your emotions around it like so excited, amazing.
Speaker 1: Like great, like really really great around it. I was
Speaker 1: so scared to do it and feel sick. That was
Speaker 1: my only thing. I wasn't worried to say I took it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't any of the things because I knew my
Speaker 1: appetite was so big that that's where I really struggle.
Speaker 1: And so, and when I'm really hungry, then I pick
Speaker 1: really bad. So I've already found that. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I am a little bit hungry.
Speaker 2: I need to eat.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to pick that apple because I'm not
Speaker 1: crazy hungry. I don't feel like I can't get enough.
Speaker 1: I don't feel so I'm already making better choices. And sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ate a little bit of the chips and salca
Speaker 1: last night with my family, But I didn't like over
Speaker 1: and indulge myself like I normally would.
Speaker 3: What happens when you come off? Does the appetite come back?
Speaker 3: Or how does that happen?
Speaker 1: I would assume so and so he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, I think we'll do about six months, he goes,
Speaker 1: and then we can address if we need to do
Speaker 1: like a maintenance dose. The reality is to gain the
Speaker 1: weight back. I may have to do a low dosage.
Speaker 1: It's every instead of every week, it's like two weeks
Speaker 1: or ten days or two weeks. And that's what my
Speaker 1: friends do. Who they it's just a maintenance dose. You
Speaker 1: just take it less and it just kind of keeps
Speaker 1: you where you are.
Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned something to you on the phone.
Speaker 3: I said, there, Well, obviously there'll be a difference, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know when, like you know, if you said,
Speaker 3: because I don't, I didn't notice that you put on weight.
Speaker 3: I didn't either, that's the thing. And you said you
Speaker 3: don't put it on your face. It's more.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see it in my face now
Speaker 1: and photos for sure, but it's mostly belly and I
Speaker 1: cover it up.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because we're around each other
Speaker 3: a lot every week, but I don't. I don't notice.
Speaker 3: I didn't notice it, but we will most likely notice
Speaker 3: a change. So I said to you, do you is
Speaker 3: it okay if we say you look great, because I
Speaker 3: don't want you to think that you don't look great before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to be like mindful of that piece of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I really appreciated that question.
Speaker 1: Such a fair question, and I will love it, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like she was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I want to be like right now, you
Speaker 3: look right I walked in, I go, you're so pretty,
Speaker 3: Like she's just so pretty to me.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I probably got rid of that extra
Speaker 1: water weight in the last four days, but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Do want to know the tips to the other like
Speaker 3: eating drinkings.
Speaker 1: So there's so many great things and about the protein
Speaker 1: and just all of those things that I do want
Speaker 1: to say. I think Pamelin's program that she does is
Speaker 1: wonderful and it taught me so many things about macros
Speaker 1: that I have taken with me that I knew. I
Speaker 1: just also was eating way over what I should have
Speaker 1: eaten and I stopped working out. But I am taking
Speaker 1: that into this. I am literally eating the same thing
Speaker 1: but a little bit less than I was when I
Speaker 1: was losing weight before.
Speaker 3: So I just that is such a great program.
Speaker 1: It's such I just need and I can hope maybe
Speaker 1: after this that my stomach gets a little bit smaller,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not as hungry and I won't be as
Speaker 1: hard to stick to it because I'm not so hungry
Speaker 1: in the in the future.
Speaker 4: You said, then no water during dinner, right, Yeah, the
Speaker 4: thirty minutes before that.
Speaker 3: You have you ever noticed that I don't drink water.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because it's not good for a digestive system,
Speaker 4: especially cold water, and I love cold water.
Speaker 2: So it's drinking any before.
Speaker 3: Oh it's anything, yeah, but yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2: That's on like.
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes before during and thirty minutes after. And as
Speaker 1: I rink it before, don't drink at all, don't.
Speaker 3: Drink it all during. So it's it's thirty minutes before
Speaker 3: and thirty minutes after. Okay, I'm not doing that. I
Speaker 3: drink water.
Speaker 1: You think that you should have water, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's and then with this medicine, it says it makes
Speaker 1: your stomach empty quicker, so then you're hungry quicker than
Speaker 1: you would be. And so that's been a hard one
Speaker 1: for me because I'm you know the other I'm a
Speaker 1: I love to have a diet coke with my lunch
Speaker 1: kind of person. But guess what, I'm not craving as much.
Speaker 3: Die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've opened.
Speaker 1: I've started one every single day. I think I finished
Speaker 1: a small can, but like I got one last night
Speaker 1: at the Mexican restaurant and I was like, why did
Speaker 1: I get this?
Speaker 3: This is it good? And I was like, what, I think.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing I've heard from friends that have
Speaker 3: done it is that when it's done right, and even
Speaker 3: Nicole said this in an interview that you're like getting
Speaker 3: yourself healthy habits and training yourself differently than so then
Speaker 3: when you do come off of it, you just approach
Speaker 3: food differently more like in a nourishment like ravenous kind of.
Speaker 2: And it's easier to do when you're so hungry, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like in that moment, it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know I should eat this, but just in all the cravings.
Speaker 1: It's truly kind of taking some cravings away. Now having
Speaker 1: said that, I've done it four days, I'll let y'all
Speaker 1: know if that continues, it could change.
Speaker 3: I could start feeling hungry again. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say I'm proud of you
Speaker 4: because you you waited, you took your time, You really
Speaker 4: throw it in thought through this. You know you wasn't
Speaker 4: and you kind of battled with it back and forth,
Speaker 4: which I think when we were talking about it, it
Speaker 4: sounded at that point you're like you were ready to
Speaker 4: try it. It's like whatever you want to do, you know,
Speaker 4: just want you to be happy.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well and I will say and everyone does
Speaker 1: it differently. I feel good about it because A he
Speaker 1: was on board. And I mean, I'm going in next
Speaker 1: week and then I have to go in like we
Speaker 1: have to go in once a month. I have to
Speaker 1: get my blood work, I have to check things like
Speaker 1: we're gonna want you know.
Speaker 2: So I feel good about that.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm just going to look and you know,
Speaker 1: not know that my body's depleted in all these areas
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I feel good about the way I'm
Speaker 1: doing it for sure.
Speaker 3: Good. I love it. Did I hear you say you
Speaker 3: were emotional? Dude? Yes? Why tell us? Let me? Okay,
Speaker 3: how you're trying to cry? Kick, I'm just going to
Speaker 3: be the talker today.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm going to start this wine down by
Speaker 1: like such a pleading tip for you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what did we do.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do listen, it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with y'all. Whatsoever are you at all? But I thank
Speaker 1: god follow me. Okay, find people around you who are
Speaker 1: with your kids. This has nothing to don't okay, so
Speaker 1: kids that are the same age kids. Your kids go
Speaker 1: to school with, Okay, parents all the things, and decide
Speaker 1: now how you're going to handle things as your kids
Speaker 1: get older.
Speaker 2: Pam.
Speaker 3: And I've already had this social media, social media and phones.
Speaker 1: Phones and you know, all the things, because I am
Speaker 1: at a place where I don't regret necessarily that I
Speaker 1: gave my kids social media. However, I'm not seeing an
Speaker 1: issue with my own child, but I'm seeing issues so
Speaker 1: many around her, like depression and anxiety and all the things,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, And it's starting to
Speaker 1: really kind of freak me out because I'm like, what
Speaker 1: if she's that way?
Speaker 2: Or like is this too?
Speaker 1: And I'm not really seeing it with my son. He's
Speaker 1: not really on it a whole lot. It really is.
Speaker 1: These teen girls scroll TikTok. They don't care about Instagram.
Speaker 1: They might be on there, not worried about Instagram in
Speaker 1: the least, they barely get on there.
Speaker 2: TikTok.
Speaker 1: They sit there and they scroll, and what happens is
Speaker 1: their algorithm I think I've talked about this before, becomes
Speaker 1: very depressing and very negative real fast to where that's
Speaker 1: all they're seeing. So now we have a lot of
Speaker 1: kids close to us that are really struggling. And so
Speaker 1: now I'm like, man, so Emmy's around all these people
Speaker 1: they're really struggling. What does that do to her? What
Speaker 1: becomes normal? And I don't I don't mean to say
Speaker 1: this in a bad way, but I think it's great
Speaker 1: that we've normalized mental health and talking about mental health
Speaker 1: a lot. But I struggle with it because now TikTok
Speaker 1: is a bunch of teenagers talking about, you know, just
Speaker 1: the most depressing things and cutting themselves and killing themselves,
Speaker 1: all of these things that now are so normalized in
Speaker 1: a sense that it's absolutely terrifying. And I know we
Speaker 1: have to talk about mental health. I understand that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we don't, but it's so a
Speaker 1: part of their life now that it's I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's necessarily doing a lot of good in that regard.
Speaker 1: And I struggle with that, and I probably need to
Speaker 1: talk to someone about that. But so I started doing
Speaker 1: a lot of research.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The other stuff is what I'm emotional about is middle
Speaker 1: school girls is just hard, you know, boys being left
Speaker 1: out all the things. If I could have people around
Speaker 1: me and I didn't feel so alone, like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: only going to let them have Like she doesn't have
Speaker 1: Snapchat right now.
Speaker 3: I took that away.
Speaker 2: We have one hour of TikTok a day.
Speaker 3: She's struggling.
Speaker 1: None of her friends have those kinds of like they
Speaker 1: can have their phones as long as much as they want,
Speaker 1: they can watch as much as they want. I have
Speaker 1: no support there, and when I reach out to some
Speaker 1: of my friends who are parents, they're not going to
Speaker 1: do it, and so it just feels very alone.
Speaker 3: So find your.
Speaker 1: People that will stick to it, so you can go, hey,
Speaker 1: look jolly, so and so and so and so and
Speaker 1: so and so.
Speaker 2: They don't either, you know, because that gets hard.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to not give in when it's like
Speaker 1: they truly feel like they're the only ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what I've been dealing with this week.
Speaker 1: She's fine on social media. I did take snap away
Speaker 1: because I feel like they use snapchat as a way
Speaker 1: to be very dramatic and things they wouldn't do on
Speaker 1: text message. And I don't know if it's because my
Speaker 1: daughter knows that I'm looking at her text messages, but
Speaker 1: snap gets just very they feel like no one can
Speaker 1: see it, so they just get very like, just very
Speaker 1: dramatic and this is all I have and what am
Speaker 1: I going to do in my life? You know, just
Speaker 1: get so heavy that it's just starting to really weigh
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 4: So I was just talking to someone about snapchat and
Speaker 4: I was kind of defending your situation, saying, well, it's
Speaker 4: the only way that the kids communicate, and the girl said,
Speaker 4: if they were really a friend, they're going to text
Speaker 4: to invite the person somewhere. And I was like, that's
Speaker 4: a really good point. I was like, I didn't even
Speaker 4: think about that, But I'm gonna I'll end up saying
Speaker 4: that to my kids to not do the snaps, to
Speaker 4: be like, if it's your friend, they're going to text
Speaker 4: you regardless.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I'm learning though, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of kids are not good friends in middle school and
Speaker 1: they will get left behind because you know what, I
Speaker 1: could barely name a friend of hers right now that
Speaker 1: I would consider a very good friend. And that's the
Speaker 1: hard part.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I agree with that in that sense, and that's what
Speaker 1: I've told Emmy, like, sorry, at the end of.
Speaker 3: This day, you're so like I feel you're heaving us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm very heavy about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have talked to a friend that we just
Speaker 1: very much disagree and we've gone back and forth all
Speaker 1: day about it. It's just I agree with you, and
Speaker 1: I would hope that would be the case. But even
Speaker 1: speaking to these mothers, it's like, yeah, that's just how
Speaker 1: they are. Sorry, they're not good friends, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's just like you get nowhere. You'd literally get nowhere
Speaker 1: because I'm a person that addresses it, especially if we're close,
Speaker 1: like if Ramsey was being mean to your kid, like
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you about it, like I
Speaker 1: love you, let's figure this out. And I'm just learning
Speaker 1: that I'm just kind of on an island over here
Speaker 1: by myself.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, okay, well, I do think one thing
Speaker 3: I always love and admire about you is you're not.
Speaker 2: Afraid to take the hard route, yeah, or take it away.
Speaker 3: You've you know what I mean, Like you've so like
Speaker 3: what they're this will come across judgmental, but it's it
Speaker 3: to me, it's the harder thing. What you're doing is
Speaker 3: the harder It's definitely the harder thing. So it's like
Speaker 3: for them to have to step in or step up
Speaker 3: or to do something differently. I mean on a way, way, way,
Speaker 3: way lesser level. It's the iPad for the younger kids
Speaker 3: kind of saga, you know, where it's like people get
Speaker 3: dependent and it's like, oh, I enjoy my breaks or whatever,
Speaker 3: or that you just they don't want to make their
Speaker 3: kids mad or shut down or whatever. And I just
Speaker 3: admire that you're sticking to it because I think it's
Speaker 3: really important. Well, they still have social media.
Speaker 1: So I can't give myself too much credit because if
Speaker 1: I were truly, truly, truly, i'd probably take it all away.
Speaker 3: But I am. I haven't done that. If you could
Speaker 3: do it differently now, knowing our ages of kids, would
Speaker 3: you do it different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't have given it to him in the well,
Speaker 1: I say that I wouldn't have. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have a group of people and a group of
Speaker 1: her friends all decide together, we're not giving them social media.
Speaker 3: That's what I would have done. Differently.
Speaker 1: I would have gone to these people and I would say,
Speaker 1: let's make a pact. They're all good friends. Let's get
Speaker 1: them texting and outside. They still do that, and they
Speaker 1: still meet up and they still go outside. And I
Speaker 1: know a lot of kids are not. But that's what
Speaker 1: I would have done differently, and that's what I encourage
Speaker 1: you guys to really do and have those people and
Speaker 1: so then they don't feel so alone, because it does
Speaker 1: feel lonely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So Jolie's asked me about Cover Star. I was just
Speaker 3: going to ask I couldn't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2: Well, Ramsey learned it from harl Harlow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Pam and I have had conversations about, you know,
Speaker 4: when we'll do cell phones, and you know, we've kind
Speaker 4: of touched on social media and I'm very much like
Speaker 4: no for as long as I can hold out as long,
Speaker 4: you know, and we got a Now I have hearing
Speaker 4: this conversation, I want to tighten it up more with
Speaker 4: her and I'll maybe include two of the other girls
Speaker 4: around neighborhood, just to see if the moms are on
Speaker 4: the same path.
Speaker 3: Jolie's asked about Cover Star for a long time. It
Speaker 3: was probably last summer she talked about it because her
Speaker 3: and Harlow were doing it on on Harlow's iPad. So
Speaker 3: the kids don't do iPads anymore. They rarely watch TV anymore.
Speaker 3: And the she's she's, I mean, she keeps just asking me.
Speaker 3: And so she was home the other day from school
Speaker 3: because she had a cough and this school nurse call.
Speaker 3: She's like, just got a cough and I'm like okay
Speaker 3: and one fever. She's like, well she doesn't have a fever.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, great, great check waiting, thanks
Speaker 3: for Colin.
Speaker 2: Right, and yeah, I had to go pick her up.
Speaker 4: So so I picked her up, and you know, she
Speaker 4: asked again and she's like, mom, She's like, we were
Speaker 4: at Harlow's birthday and we were doing Cover Star?
Speaker 3: Can I please have Cover Stars?
Speaker 4: And again I was like, I don't even know what
Speaker 4: this is, right, So I looked into it and it
Speaker 4: looks like a kid's version of TikTok, very parental controlled,
Speaker 4: the no bullying, the no you know there was a
Speaker 4: parent even had to have a video saying I am
Speaker 4: fine with having my kid have it. So I downloaded
Speaker 4: it on my phone to obviously see it.
Speaker 2: The app.
Speaker 3: I created an account for them because I'm like, you
Speaker 3: know what, they can use my phone for twenty minutes
Speaker 3: a day, thirty minutes a day, and they they can
Speaker 3: have fun with it because they love doing videos on
Speaker 3: the monitor phone, like they'll they'll create these little videos
Speaker 3: and they pretend they're talking to a YouTube channel, which
Speaker 3: I'm not uploading. But that's fine. That's their way of
Speaker 3: being created for thirty minutes whatever, go for it. But
Speaker 3: my issue with it was is they posted like four
Speaker 3: or five videos and Jace primarily wasn't even Jolie, but
Speaker 3: he's like, we only have one fan, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: and it's a way goodbye, like we're not. I was like,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if I'm like, oh, he is a
Speaker 3: six year old and he's worried about how many stars
Speaker 3: they got, like they got ten stars on one and
Speaker 3: then they've got one, you know. And I'm like, I
Speaker 3: know how algorithms affect me when it changes, not so
Speaker 3: much anymore. The only reason affects me now is when
Speaker 3: algorithm views change is because Instagram's in my livelihood of
Speaker 3: how I support my family primarily, so it's it's kind
Speaker 3: of get weighs on me when it's not. You know,
Speaker 3: algorithms aren't great, but for kids, I've I've seen how
Speaker 3: depressed kids can get because if they don't get enough likes,
Speaker 3: if they don't get and I'm just like, so I
Speaker 3: just took it away again. I'm like, no, this was
Speaker 3: a nice trial run. I don't like it, and you
Speaker 3: just don't need to be upset. It doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: many fans you I'm like, your fans are all in
Speaker 3: the house right here, and we love you so much.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter who else is herding and liking your stuff.
Speaker 3: It does if this is helpful, they might like this.
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all do this, but we do
Speaker 3: screen mirroring to our living room TV. So I let
Speaker 3: them record and then we screen mirror we all watch
Speaker 3: it on the big TV. That's fun, and that's kind
Speaker 3: of like fun for them. Does love dou Clever Star? No? Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: but also and only because I just she has only
Speaker 3: one friend that does it. And I actually super trust
Speaker 3: and love this mom. So I've like been able to
Speaker 3: like ask, but this this particular family, like their whole
Speaker 3: livelihood is Instagram TikTok, so they're very in that world,
Speaker 3: very savvy.
Speaker 2: But she tried it.
Speaker 3: And she was like, I you know, I tried this
Speaker 3: with my friend and I liked it, and I was
Speaker 3: like yeah, and she can we get it? So then
Speaker 3: she's got legend on the like, can we get it.
Speaker 3: They asked a few times, and I just said, you
Speaker 3: know what, you can't right now. There's just a lot
Speaker 3: more things we have to do right now than that.
Speaker 3: And I said, I still love when Legend creates on
Speaker 3: Garage Band and you guys make the videos they do
Speaker 3: this series out back, this nature series that they've done
Speaker 3: that's hysterical, and I'm like, record more of those. We
Speaker 3: can get an editing program and maybe I'll do that
Speaker 3: and then can play it on the big screen. Yeah
Speaker 3: that sounds I mean right now, they're just young.
Speaker 4: You guys are still and again watching adolescents and then
Speaker 4: seeing what actual comments. You know, I don't know what
Speaker 4: emojis mean. I'm not in that guys.
Speaker 3: For the longest time, I thought this guy had a
Speaker 3: big nose and I couldn't figure out what I think
Speaker 3: this is praying. So I need too and it's a
Speaker 3: high five, right. I don't know what are you saying about.
Speaker 1: Ramsey was gonna say she I think she's still she
Speaker 1: has it, but we went through and here's the thing,
Speaker 1: she lost all interest in it because any account my
Speaker 1: kids have have to be private, so you really can't
Speaker 1: get a lot of fans. You can't get a lot
Speaker 1: of likes, which really pisses them off at first, honestly, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Emmy really wants a public one and I'm like, sorry,
Speaker 1: you know. But so with Ramsey when she did it,
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know this person? Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 1: So it's like you can only have the people you know,
Speaker 1: So she lost interest in it, ye because she's like,
Speaker 1: what's the point I'm like doing this first.
Speaker 4: These kids wanting this, that's why they do it. The attention,
Speaker 4: not the attention, but they they want the likes. The
Speaker 4: likes makes them feel like but again that's.
Speaker 3: How and guys, I don't have the balance down, like
Speaker 3: even the girls in her you know, we do a
Speaker 3: homeschool co op two days a week, but there's some
Speaker 3: girls that are on their iPads way more often than them,
Speaker 3: so they're group chatting all the time. So then when
Speaker 3: Love goes to school, she's like, well, they talked about
Speaker 3: this or they talked about that, And I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know what the balance is.
Speaker 1: And that's where it's really hard because I okay, so
Speaker 1: I had posted those I don't know if y'all saw
Speaker 1: I post on my social media, and I took a
Speaker 1: poll about who lets.
Speaker 3: Their teenagers have.
Speaker 1: You know, I have talked to so many people this
Speaker 1: weekend after posting that, and so many people that are like,
Speaker 1: it's such a balance. I would love for them to
Speaker 1: not have it at all, but they truly do get
Speaker 1: left out. So I do think you have to be
Speaker 1: prepared for that. Well, it's also their world, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like it.
Speaker 3: It's about knowing your world enough so that you don't
Speaker 3: get derailed when you.
Speaker 1: Don't get access take exactly. And I actually had a
Speaker 1: conversation with my pediatrician about this. He was like, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point, I do believe they need to be
Speaker 1: introduced to it. So if they make some mistakes, they're
Speaker 1: under your roof and you can help them with their mistakes.
Speaker 1: If you wait till eighteen and they go to college,
Speaker 1: they're going to learn the hard way and they don't
Speaker 1: have you to help blah blah blah blah. So I
Speaker 1: do agree with that to an extent. It's how do
Speaker 1: you find the balance. How do you make sure they're
Speaker 1: still included, because I think that depression and anxiety and
Speaker 1: all that can also come from not being included and
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going on, so it's hard.
Speaker 3: Side note.
Speaker 4: Just want to have one little tippit when we're talking
Speaker 4: about Yes, we love the fact that mental health, we
Speaker 4: talk about it more. Having said that totally, one of
Speaker 4: the songs that she's been singing is a song called Anxiety,
Speaker 4: My Anxiety, And I'm just like, I'm saying all that,
Speaker 4: and Alan's just like, I don't think this would be
Speaker 4: actually good. I was like, no, I'm actually agreeing with
Speaker 4: you because I think it's I think it's good to
Speaker 4: be aware about anxiety obviously, and we help her through
Speaker 4: and we talk about these things, but we're also drawing
Speaker 4: a lot of attention to it too, we really are.
Speaker 3: And I mean she's just like, my anxiety, my anxiety.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what I would love.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Amy in a while. I would love
Speaker 1: to go in and like talk to Amy and be like, let's.
Speaker 3: Get her on the shows.
Speaker 2: I will do that because I have to do it.
Speaker 2: Three part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a part of the normalcy of
Speaker 1: it that is making people go, oh, not that it's cool,
Speaker 1: but is it cool?
Speaker 3: There's a tension. Yeah, kids like attention and you guys,
Speaker 3: I got a whine. Oh tell me.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel like I just whined for like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: No, you're good, girl, You're good. And I like the ketchup.
Speaker 3: I like it when Janna catch up with kick Cats.
Speaker 3: So I don't like my car.
Speaker 2: I know, okay, are we still driving?
Speaker 3: I just got really nervous about like some sort of
Speaker 3: sponsorship that was my I went to managerial mode.
Speaker 2: Did you see it?
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I lost my Chevy deal years ago, so I was
Speaker 4: trying to get Hyundai deal.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but that didn't come through. That's all right though.
Speaker 4: So I loved my my Wrangler that I had, so oh,
Speaker 4: I've loved my Range Drover. But then my lease was up,
Speaker 4: and so I didn't love the new body shape that
Speaker 4: came out. So I'm like, I'm gonna save some money here,
Speaker 4: let's get into a Wrangler. I love a Wrangler.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, then I meet Alan and you know,
Speaker 3: he's like kind of made a few comments about the car.
Speaker 3: But then I got pregnant. I'm like, all right, there's
Speaker 3: no way I'm going to be able to fit because
Speaker 3: those back seats of those Wranglers are so tiny, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: So I got into and I had to. But I
Speaker 3: so I had to get out of my because I'm
Speaker 3: a lease girl. I don't care what anyone says. I
Speaker 3: love leasing. I'm going to continue to lease. I like
Speaker 3: to change it up every three years. Having said that,
Speaker 3: I had to stay in my lease. This is the
Speaker 3: negative part of it. And I needed to get a
Speaker 3: three a three rower and I didn't want the big boat.
Speaker 3: I thought about maybe getting the grand Wagon ear but
Speaker 3: I was like, I really don't want to drive. I
Speaker 3: don't want to drive them, mom car, I really don't
Speaker 3: like but I will. But I just felt like kind
Speaker 3: of big at the moment. And then it was a
Speaker 3: little too expensive. So I got into my Jeep Cherokee. Again.
Speaker 3: I'm just not a fan of it. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: And so there's my wine. My My next topic is
Speaker 3: we drove a mini van in West Virginia. Oh they're glorious,
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 3: I told Alan and I said, Babe, I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 3: Driving this is better than driving my Jeep Cherokee. Oh
Speaker 3: It's it's incredible.
Speaker 4: And Jace is like, Mommy, can we get this car
Speaker 4: when we get home, and I'm like, actually, honey, I'm
Speaker 4: really thinking about it because it's.
Speaker 3: So like that it opens. It's just my girlfriends has
Speaker 3: a vacuum inside of it. She's vacuuming up cheerios with
Speaker 3: the vacuum. Dream Like I gotta say, I'm like, mama's
Speaker 3: that drive minivans that listen to this, let me know
Speaker 3: your favorite one, because Pacifica that's a good one. I had.
Speaker 3: So when my old old job, I had to drive
Speaker 3: bands around sometimes when I was on the record label side,
Speaker 3: and I always got minivans because you can't have grown
Speaker 3: men crawling in over each other. And so I drove
Speaker 3: Eli Youngban one time in a Pacifica and it fit
Speaker 3: all of my big dudes in there, and it's it
Speaker 3: just floats, and it's so it's made nice. It is
Speaker 3: made for moms. It's intuitive. Every you're like, gosh, I
Speaker 3: think I would describe my drink right. Oh, my drink
Speaker 3: is right there. There's like coolers involved in vacuums.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of space in the band.
Speaker 3: I care about us a lot.
Speaker 2: So I guess would you guys judge me?
Speaker 4: Because I feel like for some I don't know why,
Speaker 4: But why do we judge people that drive minivans.
Speaker 3: I don't judge people that drive many vans.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I do.
Speaker 2: It's like I.
Speaker 3: Just think my mom because even my even my neighbor
Speaker 3: made a comment to me, he goes, oh, you got
Speaker 3: yourself a little a mom car, and I'm like that
Speaker 3: hurt my heart a little bit. I know, I know,
Speaker 3: but it's you know, why do people use that as
Speaker 3: a negative? Yeah? Right, right, were right? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you what you got too?
Speaker 3: Mini vans sitting in your driveway, buddy, So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I will tell you what.
Speaker 2: No, you also have.
Speaker 1: The you will hear from the moms that drive minivans
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I got over that real quick.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, because they love their minivans so much.
Speaker 4: I just feel like they get a bad name they
Speaker 4: and we judge them because it's like the soccer and minivans.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I guess I've always looked at
Speaker 4: them bad until I drove one, and now I'm obsessed magical.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like the way they look, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't choose one, but I'm judging people for doing it.
Speaker 3: So agree the shape I don't like. I don't like
Speaker 3: the shape, but I don't like the way they look. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so my insides are great, they work great. My tiny
Speaker 3: town like farm town self has to be up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why I can't do it.
Speaker 3: They're too low to the ground for me like I
Speaker 3: need to be. If they could lift, they could lift
Speaker 3: a minivan. They think I'm in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still say the most, but especially if
Speaker 1: you feel like those SUVs are too big you would
Speaker 1: love You're not.
Speaker 3: Going to get a minivan though, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: kind of see it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can remember working at the management company having kids,
Speaker 1: thinking about it for like half a second, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? Show up and pick
Speaker 1: up my artist in my minivan? I was like no, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't judge it. I'm afraid I would
Speaker 1: be judged for showing up.
Speaker 3: My point right there, No the minute showing up so
Speaker 3: I did. The minute the door opens on its own
Speaker 3: and there's a cooler installed. People forget what they're even in.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: A minivan sponsorship for all three of us. No, well, yeah, sure, guy,
Speaker 3: They got we got covers on our ship. Are you
Speaker 3: all a free car?
Speaker 2: That's thing?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's true. You will drive any free car given
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: I'm so cheap to that.
Speaker 3: Like I love a free car, and I mean no,
Speaker 3: granted I got lucky with a Chevy one because it
Speaker 3: was a Camaro, and then my Taho, which I loved.
Speaker 2: But like, if someone was like.
Speaker 4: Here's a free car, or pay for this car, I'm
Speaker 4: going to pick a free car.
Speaker 3: And no matter if it's an if it's really you
Speaker 3: got a camera, well you really a family? If I
Speaker 3: mean a minivan is ugly? Oh true, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, no offense, mini bad moms.
Speaker 4: True they are, but they're not like I was. I
Speaker 4: love a good boxy Like, give me like a defender.
Speaker 4: I love that, I love I love those Terassic Really,
Speaker 4: she just.
Speaker 2: Wants a free defender. If anyone can give her that, please.
Speaker 3: That's never happening.
Speaker 4: Having But I'm saying, hey, someone said you're going to
Speaker 4: pay sixteen hundred dollars a month for a defender with
Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen hundred dollars a month or a free minivan,
Speaker 4: I will pick there. And you know me, I will
Speaker 4: pick the free car. I will pick the free minivan.
Speaker 4: Somebody send me a free mini you know what, someone
Speaker 4: you're gonna go.
Speaker 2: It was free totally, so they don't.
Speaker 3: You No, Oh rock license plate is Can we please
Speaker 3: put this out into the universe. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 3: think we should do a podcast from the minivan.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we've got some headlines this week, one of
Speaker 4: which I'm really excited about. You guys, one of my
Speaker 4: favorite rom coms. Oh same, I mean, I think it.
Speaker 4: I think it stands the test of a how to
Speaker 4: Lose a Guy in ten Days time. I do too,
Speaker 4: which it has been how to Lose a Guy in
Speaker 4: ten Days.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it's so good. Is hands down my favorite,
Speaker 3: one of my very favorite romantic comedies, and there has
Speaker 3: not been one that has touched it since anyone but you.
Speaker 3: I think that movie. Have you seen it? I don't
Speaker 3: think so. Oh, I've seen it thirteen million times, I believe.
Speaker 3: I mean because the same thing Hallos on ten Days.
Speaker 3: I've seen it probably thousands of times.
Speaker 2: Thousands. I don't want any hues.
Speaker 4: Oh, but a goodie like a sex and the City
Speaker 4: number one all the time, like on an Airplane devil
Speaker 4: worse product seeing that a million times, but Anyone but
Speaker 4: You is hands down equals I think, just as good
Speaker 4: as How to Lose Guy in Ten Days Sidney Sweeney, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, I have watched White Lotus didn't know
Speaker 4: she was in the first one obviously, so that's the
Speaker 4: only thing I really saw her in was Anyone but You.
Speaker 4: So there was rumors that they might have hooked up
Speaker 4: during filming, her and Glenn Powell, who I just think
Speaker 4: is an absolute doll. He's adorable, so cute, great actor,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, whatever, who you know, rumors, schmumers the
Speaker 4: whole thing, And now they're apparently you know, so she
Speaker 4: broke off her engagement to her guy, which is so sad,
Speaker 4: but also like, yay, you didn't, you know, don't marry
Speaker 4: the wrong one.
Speaker 3: We know how that ends up. But apparently they uh
Speaker 3: were just photographed together at a Texas restaurant at the
Speaker 3: same time, des Mois reported on its Instagram March twentieth,
Speaker 3: and I just got so excited. So their families got close,
Speaker 3: is my understanding, or she got close with his family.
Speaker 3: I think they're super great, sweet friends that may or
Speaker 3: may not have hooked up.
Speaker 2: Who cares?
Speaker 4: But I love them together, whether they're friends together.
Speaker 3: Well, she just went to his sister's wedding exactly, so
Speaker 3: cute and that's so on brand for yeah, like the movie,
Speaker 3: Like I was like, of course she went to the wedding,
Speaker 3: so good. This is so perfect, like they're living in
Speaker 3: real time the movie and I'm here for it, which
Speaker 3: I love. Kind of thing. I do.
Speaker 2: You are clearly big fans? Yeah, huge, huge, I see that.
Speaker 3: Can I get a free minigan and being greet with
Speaker 3: Glenn and Sydney than you can Glenn deliver the minivan
Speaker 3: and just tie this up with a bone.
Speaker 1: Why do we care? Okay, timing of all of this totally.
Speaker 1: Are we worried that she had an affair?
Speaker 2: They're saying he did.
Speaker 4: I think back in the day, if I recall my
Speaker 4: US Weekly scrolling, I believe there was Chad or that
Speaker 4: he might have cheated on his girlfriend with her. Again,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be starting rumor. I think that's
Speaker 4: what the rumor was also US Week.
Speaker 1: But I can see where then others might care if
Speaker 1: the timing is sus.
Speaker 3: Sure, but also like if they're great friends and obviously
Speaker 3: obviously they have amazing chemistry.
Speaker 4: They're on screen. Chemistry is fantastic. Now whether there was
Speaker 4: something sexual between them.
Speaker 1: But was she with her fiance at the time, Yeah, don't,
Speaker 1: So we don't care.
Speaker 4: I think people can have really good chemistry without any
Speaker 4: sexual energy like affair. I have a co star, we
Speaker 4: have great chemistry. Nothing ever happened between us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, for sure, But like you, truly don't
Speaker 2: don't care if there was an affair.
Speaker 3: Well, sure, I mean that's not great for everybody, but
Speaker 3: it's not my business, my life.
Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't like when people meddle
Speaker 4: and is that the right word? Yes, yeah, in my stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, it's not my business.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that that I yes, I didn't get on
Speaker 1: board with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally objective anywhere people are sworling.
Speaker 1: I think it was the way you said it, like
Speaker 1: the way it was kind of I don't care if
Speaker 1: they had an affir Who cares, That's not you cut
Speaker 1: it off for a minute.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I care when people That's That's where I'm going.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm getting it. Dear Regions, don't care.
Speaker 3: Taken a copy of the Good Fight?
Speaker 2: Do care a little? We do care.
Speaker 3: I just don't none of your business, I would say,
Speaker 3: if I had to be objective, and just in the
Speaker 3: life that I've lived, I'm just tossing out the dearest reader,
Speaker 3: the dearest gentle reader. Jenna Kramer cares excepsively if someone
Speaker 3: as an affair and if you don't know that, you're
Speaker 3: on the wrong effing podcast. I wonder if when you
Speaker 3: see chemistry and other people, if that could be a
Speaker 3: catalyst to ending an engagement, because if you feel that way,
Speaker 3: I'm going to speak from experience, be a little vulnerable here.
Speaker 3: In a previous relationship, it was really serious and I
Speaker 3: remember meeting someone who I ended up never having a
Speaker 3: relationship with other than a friendship. But it was such
Speaker 3: a strong, palpable chemistry and connection that I thought there's
Speaker 3: no way I could possibly continue on with the person
Speaker 3: that I was dating, because if I could feel that
Speaker 3: way towards someone, then I couldn't be with the one totally.
Speaker 3: And that's what and I have zero idea about I
Speaker 3: wish we knew more about all of this. I think
Speaker 3: Jana agrees.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would I want people to be had,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 3: Just wonder if maybe that, like if you're filming something
Speaker 3: and you meet this person and it's not even that
Speaker 3: they had to have an affair, but maybe she just
Speaker 3: felt was like, you know what, shouldn't feel like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point. I also think it's
Speaker 4: I'm going to speak for the other people that are
Speaker 4: not Sydney, England, when you see your partners having such
Speaker 4: good banter and chemistry that then creates doubt insecurity questions
Speaker 4: that then affects the relationship as a whole. So maybe
Speaker 4: that also, whether there was or wasn't, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure there.
Speaker 3: It would be hard for anyone to see the connection
Speaker 3: they have and not go is there something there? For sure? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I was disappointed she was engaged after.
Speaker 2: That for them, I love well. I mean I wanted Kate.
Speaker 3: And Matthew McConaughey to be together, of course, same we
Speaker 3: all did. Yeah yeah, Whitney and you know our dude,
Speaker 3: you're new chemic costume. You know. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: I think I know me want to cry. I still
Speaker 3: think about the funeral when he cries. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only movie I can watch.
Speaker 3: Can we get a us? Are we all pre Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it's me again. I'm day three. Wow,
Speaker 3: I keep going so early. I don't know.
Speaker 1: My sister in law texted me and said, Perry menopause
Speaker 1: because I'm so sensitive and just crying all the time.
Speaker 1: But I just think I'm sensitive.
Speaker 3: Nicki Glazer is coming into town, which I'm going to
Speaker 3: see her show, and there's a headline right now saying
Speaker 3: she goes. I wish I didn't feel this way. She
Speaker 3: explained her sexual fetish for her boyfriend's sleeping with other women.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So she basically said, there's been a couple of times
Speaker 4: years ago that Chris is hooked up with other people.
Speaker 4: Nicki said she's totally fine with it, so long as
Speaker 4: the other women knows it's nothing more than sex. I
Speaker 4: think girls sometimes can be convinced that he's going to
Speaker 4: leave her for me. It's like, no, that's not going
Speaker 4: to happen. So just know that this is it. She
Speaker 4: was talking with Gwyneth Paltrow. So basically, kind of her
Speaker 4: sexual fetish is that being with him, being with other
Speaker 4: people is what I'm Yeah, Chris, the idea of Chris
Speaker 4: with other women is a sexual fetish. So I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, like we just talkedalked about. I would not
Speaker 4: be okay with that.
Speaker 2: Girls.
Speaker 5: You guys, can you imagine, well what happens when it's
Speaker 5: not just sexual anymore? Even if that's just your sexual
Speaker 5: fetish and you're fine with it, Like at some point
Speaker 5: someone's going to get feelings.
Speaker 3: For also, Like what is is there anything sacred anyway?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: Like can we just then just maybe don't? I don't
Speaker 3: what is wrong with me? Am I getting to be
Speaker 3: an old lady? I am starting to feel that way.
Speaker 3: It's like I want to start my sentences with back
Speaker 3: in my day. But I'm starting to get there where
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, can we just not have one sexual
Speaker 3: partner and move on? Yeah? Like what's hot about him?
Speaker 3: Or I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna spin
Speaker 3: it pr wise? Is this what she says so that
Speaker 3: when he's out doing what he's doing it doesn't look
Speaker 3: a certain way on her? Maybe she is.
Speaker 4: She's to me, I just seems always very confident and
Speaker 4: I could see it not bothering her. It would just
Speaker 4: really bother me obviously.
Speaker 3: As you know, I wasn't comfortable with the twenty plus
Speaker 3: women that my ex husbands slept with but I you know,
Speaker 3: I just couldn't. You know, I couldn't do that. I
Speaker 3: just I definitely couldn't. I just I'm what I want
Speaker 3: to I guess I want to go what is it
Speaker 3: about that that is a fetish? Like? What does that
Speaker 3: do for her?
Speaker 4: I think it's something that's intriguing, Right, So if I
Speaker 4: think back to I'm going to go back since I'm
Speaker 4: on White Lotus train right now.
Speaker 3: White Lotus season.
Speaker 4: Two, that couple they obviously slept with other people, but
Speaker 4: it was like a don't tell I know, but don't
Speaker 4: tell me. And there's almost something sexy about the fact
Speaker 4: that they had sex with other people.
Speaker 3: But that it was so it like it almost spiced
Speaker 3: up their marriage until it misses it all up.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I That's what I always think is
Speaker 4: the end is it's not gonna to me. I've never
Speaker 4: heard of a situation where people have an open marriage
Speaker 4: and it works great. And I know, personally, I just
Speaker 4: couldn't handle that because I don't want I don't want
Speaker 4: my I want to be treated differently where I know
Speaker 4: my husband just has eyes for me and love for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know she's saying it's not love. It's just sex.
Speaker 3: But I still I couldn't. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I just think, And this is not me being judgmental.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to come across that way, but I
Speaker 1: just think that's not what sex and love was created for.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: That's not the way that it should be used. And
Speaker 1: I will stand up for that all day long.
Speaker 3: And listen, I will also say out loud, have I
Speaker 3: always been? Have I been a saint? No? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan girls listen to this too often to know me,
Speaker 3: and listen, I just to me, there's a deeper something there,
Speaker 3: or there's a disconnect there, and so saying this makes
Speaker 3: her feel frames it in a way that feels I
Speaker 3: don't know something. And I know people have all sorts
Speaker 3: of different fetishes and things that I just am like,
Speaker 3: he's been with a lot of people. Maybe he hasn't,
Speaker 3: but he's been with people before her, and that's mystery enough.
Speaker 3: So when you get to me, well.
Speaker 1: When she said something about how she likes that other
Speaker 1: people want him and that's sexy to him, Like, why
Speaker 1: can not just sexy enough for you to want him?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I just think there is probably something deeper there, but
Speaker 1: that's for for them to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean with with my ex situation, obviously, I took
Speaker 3: him back all those times, but I always told Alan,
Speaker 3: if you were ever with anyone, I can't I can't
Speaker 3: be in that relationship. I would never I gave my
Speaker 3: ex grace. I can't give you grace. There's no way
Speaker 3: that's right that I can give you grace. Sorry, my
Speaker 3: grace ran up with that now and then you made
Speaker 3: a promise to you you would. But I just well,
Speaker 3: and here for me, I know what happens to me.
Speaker 3: But hey, if this is something Nikki like, it doesn't
Speaker 3: affect her that way, and that's how they keep their
Speaker 3: relationship alive. Awesome.
Speaker 4: I just fear for what happens in the end. I
Speaker 4: just I just wonderers turned more than sex.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, and she's a comedian, so I wonder
Speaker 3: if there's just something there's there's a comedic piece in
Speaker 3: here too, of like attention and being far out and
Speaker 3: being like there's something to that personality type that plays
Speaker 3: into this too, and I haven't figured that out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like a piece of me wants to be like, you know,
Speaker 3: you're worth it to not have someone that's But also
Speaker 3: it's like maybe she doesn't need that. Maybe like that's
Speaker 3: not my place to say that because she's no, she
Speaker 3: knows she is, and like whatever that's her thing. Hey cool, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I just wonder if you sat her down
Speaker 3: in a couch on a couch and just really dug in,
Speaker 3: would that be the truth? I don't know. That's what
Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder.
Speaker 4: Well, I really like her a side note, like I
Speaker 4: think she's great, Yeah, I think she's incredible.
Speaker 3: Show. I also think she's really independent. So maybe it
Speaker 3: feels good just to be like, yeah, he does that
Speaker 3: and I do this, and he'll never be too attached
Speaker 3: because he's got this and he's distracted. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if, like a lot of times, people that are
Speaker 3: in the open marriages from what I've seen, don't want
Speaker 3: kids too mm hmm. And so maybe that's a different
Speaker 3: art it piece of it or something where it's just
Speaker 3: you're not trying to settle down, I guess, or I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: We had some friends. I don't know, we had some
Speaker 2: friends that.
Speaker 1: You know, they got into the whole like swinger situation,
Speaker 1: and then it went south because you know, you can
Speaker 1: be swinging with other people, but when then they go
Speaker 1: elsewhere you know, to in the situation, go and have,
Speaker 1: then it's not okay, and it just it ruins relationships.
Speaker 3: You know, boundaries will get broken. I feel like in
Speaker 3: those situations, yeah, it always becomes more well because boundaries
Speaker 3: are already a question because it is the situation, right,
Speaker 3: Like it'll always be it's it's more and then more women. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like his my ex's first affair. He thought it
Speaker 4: would just be that, but no, you get rid of
Speaker 4: done with that person and then you start wanting other people.
Speaker 1: Well this may be controversial to say, but fetish is
Speaker 1: in general, I think also can kind of okay, here's
Speaker 1: this fetish. Okay, well I've done that. Well what's what's next?
Speaker 3: Fetis Nothing extra turns you on, not necessarily, no, but
Speaker 3: I just I think that it's like if you and
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that and like the in a negative way,
Speaker 3: but I feel like, Okay, well that's cool, we've done that.
Speaker 1: Now we got to do this, and now it needs
Speaker 1: to be this, and now it needs to be more.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what my fear would be
Speaker 1: in this situation. He would need more, I would need more,
Speaker 1: you know whatever.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I also might not be the right person to even
Speaker 4: discuss this situation because I just go straight to my
Speaker 4: own trauma with it all, you know, I just.
Speaker 3: Go super like, Yeah, I'm like, I conserve it. I
Speaker 3: just want I just want someone just for me. That's
Speaker 3: why I got married.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when I go conservative, like, I
Speaker 1: just I want to get married and have.
Speaker 3: Some people don't have that mindset, no one for sure,
Speaker 3: And that's like, okay, great, But I will say back
Speaker 3: to her things she says she doesn't she wished she
Speaker 3: didn't feel this way.
Speaker 4: So there is a piece then in there there's something.
Speaker 4: I'd say, there's maybe something there. Yeah, but and it's
Speaker 4: okay if that someone wants it that way too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of this is it's it's whatever, and you want.
Speaker 3: I just I do wish when those things were sacred
Speaker 3: things more often than they are, And even in my
Speaker 3: own life, I wish I would have treated it that
Speaker 3: way more.
Speaker 4: Same one thousand percent. I think that's where my twenty is.
Speaker 4: La Jana Same.
Speaker 3: I posted this picture from Rode roles Jana, Oh was
Speaker 3: it you that were doing? I was like, I'm glad
Speaker 3: we didn't live in LA. At the same time, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, sister, where would we even be?
Speaker 4: But that again, my La days was I was a
Speaker 4: lost girl trying to find love and a daddy's love
Speaker 4: that I never got, you know, trying to have a
Speaker 4: man tell me that I'm good enough, and it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, next, next, next, trying to find it, so
Speaker 4: sure took a while to find it.
Speaker 2: Here we go, hi, ladies.
Speaker 3: My biggest pet peeve with my husband is that he
Speaker 3: is always texting his guy friends in group chats. He
Speaker 3: is in so many group chats and his phone is
Speaker 3: constantly going off. We have been together for ten years
Speaker 3: and the constant texting has always bothered me. Somewhere through
Speaker 3: the years, I made it a rule that we couldn't
Speaker 3: bring our phones to the dinner table because he'd be
Speaker 3: texting all the time and I felt like I was
Speaker 3: always eating by myself. He would even text through dinner
Speaker 3: while we were on a date. I've brought it up
Speaker 3: many times before and he gets defensive and then says
Speaker 3: I am the same way, which is not true at all.
Speaker 3: The dinner rule held up for a while, but somewhere
Speaker 3: along the way he brought the phone back to the
Speaker 3: dinner table. Now we have kids, and I hate them
Speaker 3: seeing him sitting on his phone while we have dinner.
Speaker 3: I am always reminding him to put it down. I
Speaker 3: feel lost on what to do. Do any of your
Speaker 3: husbands do this? What else can I do to encourage
Speaker 3: him to put the phone away during family time? Thanks?
Speaker 3: Love the podcast. Hey girl, Hey girl, Hey girl, I
Speaker 3: want you to quickly look up the definition of gas lighting,
Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure that's what Homie did to you
Speaker 3: when he told you that you're on your phone too.
Speaker 4: That was my biggest annoyance with that email was because
Speaker 4: I'm like, I cannot of course he said that back
Speaker 4: to yeah, of course, of course we're on our phone.
Speaker 2: Devil's advocate of what is when she really is? What
Speaker 2: if she is?
Speaker 3: But not during dinner time?
Speaker 1: But I think that's what he's saying, You are not
Speaker 1: during dinner, Okay, not during dinner.
Speaker 4: That doesn't okay. I brought it up many times before
Speaker 4: he gets defenses. Is I'm the same way? Which is
Speaker 4: not true at all? Which is I agree with her
Speaker 4: her saying, which is not true at all. I don't
Speaker 4: believe that girl is bringing her phone.
Speaker 3: I'm not if she's making it no when bother her.
Speaker 4: She's because I am the biggest No phone's the table. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't like it. It's the number one rule. The
Speaker 4: kids know it.
Speaker 3: Anytime Alan takes it out of his pocket, Jolie is
Speaker 3: instantly getting up and she's.
Speaker 4: Like, Alan, no phones at that table. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: good girl, love that. Like, here's my one piece of advice.
Speaker 4: Put a basket by the dinner table somewhere. So it's
Speaker 4: if you have like a what's those credenzas buffet table,
Speaker 4: get a little cute little basket and that is where
Speaker 4: phones go, yours included, and phones go in that basket
Speaker 4: for dinner table. That's step number one. Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: I'm gonna gather more thoughts for the rest well.
Speaker 1: And then you're also teaching as your kids get older
Speaker 1: and they have phones, you're teaching. By the time you
Speaker 1: get to the point where your kids have phones and
Speaker 1: you're they're that old, they're going to know to put
Speaker 1: that it's not They're not going to think twice. Had
Speaker 1: I started that a long time ago? Which if we
Speaker 1: tell our kids to put them down at dinner. They will,
Speaker 1: it's not a problem, but like they would just not
Speaker 1: think twice about it, just be like they go in
Speaker 1: the basket. That would have been great had I done
Speaker 1: that years ago. We don't really have an issue with it.
Speaker 1: We hardly ever sit down to dinner together. We have
Speaker 1: but really at the table with your husband.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like it drives me crazy. It drives me
Speaker 3: crazy how much he's on it anyways, but we are
Speaker 3: running a record label sure from our home wherever he
Speaker 3: is he is, you know, Yeah, he's doing a million
Speaker 3: things all the time. Dinner is just the one part
Speaker 3: where I'm like, that just has to stop. And but
Speaker 3: I will say this, I think it's been less obvious
Speaker 3: to me lately just because he's been gone so much.
Speaker 3: But when he I feel like we're not eating, Like
Speaker 3: we're in that toddler phase right now, where like I
Speaker 3: think the sitting down all the five of us in
Speaker 3: maybe last three minutes, you know, that phase is crazy.
Speaker 3: But I really like I can't stand phones at the
Speaker 3: table at all. I'm also just like there is very
Speaker 3: few moments where the five of us just get to
Speaker 3: be the five of us. I just need those to
Speaker 3: be so sacred, even if it's one hundred and twenty seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I agree, it's really like to ask good idea.
Speaker 1: I think we might do that again. We cannot have
Speaker 1: sit down dinners very often, so when we do, we
Speaker 1: try to make sure our phones are away anyways. But
Speaker 1: I like that I might try that.
Speaker 3: So I think there's that. But I also I'm sure
Speaker 3: she's communicated it, but in a way where we how
Speaker 3: us girls can sometimes communicate like do you really have
Speaker 3: to pick up the phone again, or some kind of
Speaker 3: like passive. I know I've done that before, but just
Speaker 3: being when he's not on his phone, maybe do a
Speaker 3: check in with him and just be you know, just
Speaker 3: be like, hey, it's starting to really bother me. I
Speaker 3: love that you have awesome friends that you chat with.
Speaker 3: I think that's so great, Like so kind of praise
Speaker 3: the fact that he's got like, that's so cool that
Speaker 3: he's got great friendships and relationships. You know, we we're
Speaker 3: texting all the time on our messages, So just being like,
Speaker 3: I love that you have got some great friends, but
Speaker 3: can you just be more mindful of situations.
Speaker 4: This is regardless of dinner table. Ask it that's a
Speaker 4: done deal. But when we're on a date or when
Speaker 4: you know the kids are trying to talk to you,
Speaker 4: just to be more mindful that they're going to see you,
Speaker 4: their memory of you is going to constantly be on
Speaker 4: the phone. Like I remember when my dad the computers,
Speaker 4: you know, Dad, I'd be like hey Dad, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: get an answer till like five minutes later because he
Speaker 4: was always just so glued onto his computer. Like that's
Speaker 4: what I remember. Our kids are going to know that
Speaker 4: because of our cell phones. So I just think to
Speaker 4: maybe communicate it when he's not on his phone and
Speaker 4: do it from a more vulnerable piece and then say
Speaker 4: that you love for the friendships, but that it makes
Speaker 4: you feel X, Y and z why you don't like it?
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, just the piece
Speaker 3: of like it makes me feel sad or not seen
Speaker 3: or whatever, because my probably I think that would be
Speaker 3: more frustrating to him. Also, if you've ever looked at
Speaker 3: your daily activity, it's a pretty rude awakening. Yes, it
Speaker 3: is so like the screen time that the iPhone pulls
Speaker 3: up for you is really that'll make you.
Speaker 1: Feel And I bet it would feel different the fact
Speaker 1: that it's a you know guy, agree, like he's not
Speaker 1: working on his phone, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 1: So I do think that that does feel a little different,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, if Nick is working on
Speaker 1: his phone, he's working on a contract or something. Okay,
Speaker 1: that feels a little different versus a he's still gonna
Speaker 1: keep talking to which I've talked to my friends way
Speaker 1: more than he does.
Speaker 2: But that would feel a little different.
Speaker 1: But maybe, like you said, not make it about that, though, right,
Speaker 1: Make it about putting it down more and being more present.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember my ex he would say please, he would
Speaker 4: he didn't like the fact that I'd get on my
Speaker 4: phone when we got in the car because.
Speaker 3: He felt like I remember that. I was just.
Speaker 4: Not that he felt like my chauffeur or something. But
Speaker 4: he is just like I feel. I think that's how
Speaker 4: he felt. Was just you know, he was driving and
Speaker 4: I would always go straight on my phone. So it's
Speaker 4: weird that it's not transferred into this with Alan where
Speaker 4: I'm I said the other day, I'm like, oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: He's like for what I was like, Oh, I've just
Speaker 4: been on my phone this drive, but I was just texting,
Speaker 4: you know, X Y and z Or bonding back to
Speaker 4: an emails like I don't care and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh well, and so then I told him the story.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, my ex didn't like that, and
Speaker 4: so I've tried to be more mindful with you in
Speaker 4: the car because I did realize I was like that
Speaker 4: did kind of feel maybe a little rude that I
Speaker 4: was always on my phone while he was driving.
Speaker 1: So like said that to me before, which was like,
Speaker 1: when I'm driving, you're like, oh, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: do this real fast on my phone or like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I was because I.
Speaker 3: Don't want you to feel like you're just like my driver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wouldn't think twice about it, but I
Speaker 1: remember you saying that one day and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's fine. But then, you know, I do remember you
Speaker 1: saying that about Mike. But I see that with my kids,
Speaker 1: Like when they're in the car, I'm like, hey, can
Speaker 1: you put your phone down and let's talk right, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of like you just being on your phone while
Speaker 1: I drive.
Speaker 3: Guys, they're just so consuming the phones. I think that's
Speaker 3: what's hard.
Speaker 2: They consume me. I mean, I'll be the first to
Speaker 2: admit it.
Speaker 3: Concerned I'm not going to be able to tell you
Speaker 3: where I saw this, but I read this study about
Speaker 3: phones and parenting, and then they had these illustrations in
Speaker 3: this study. I hope I can find it. But it
Speaker 3: was like the kid asking a question of parents saying,
Speaker 3: like buried in a phone, and I think even the
Speaker 3: vision of that or it's just such a life changing
Speaker 3: for me. I was like, man, and and guilty is charged.
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to I'm trying to do business and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to launch this and I'm trying and I'm
Speaker 3: not like fully always in and so I've tried to
Speaker 3: be better too. I'm gonna put screen time on myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone, I put a basket out by a table,
Speaker 4: and it can even be like you're in your kitchen,
Speaker 4: the basket, baskets go there and everyone needs to apply
Speaker 4: that's right. Phones go in the basket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he didn't put it in too, then
Speaker 3: that's a deeper conversation. All should go to therapy. I
Speaker 3: think that's disrespect would be yeah, that'd be tough, I
Speaker 3: think so, Yeah, I think that right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like she needs to let us know.
Speaker 1: I think she needs to try this and she needs
Speaker 1: to let us know.
Speaker 3: How it goes. Yeah, don't forget to Yeah, because I
Speaker 3: need to know how this ends, because that would hurt
Speaker 3: my feelings if he was like stupid basket.
Speaker 2: Right right for sure?
Speaker 3: I hope that also, like dinner isn't that long, so
Speaker 3: if like there might be like an addictive personality piece
Speaker 3: of this too where I'm like, why can't we just
Speaker 3: put that down for fifteen minutes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right for sure, like your haha roach out whatever
Speaker 4: things can just wait for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, we love you
Speaker 3: Have friends, so fun all right, ladies, until next week,
Speaker 3: Bye bye by