1
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359
Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

2
00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,600
Speaker 2: Are we ready?

3
00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,720
Speaker 3: This is so professional? I don't feel qualified. I don't

4
00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,240
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I don't know if it's the

5
00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,400
Speaker 3: ring light or if it's the little mic. I think

6
00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,800
Speaker 3: it's this, the little Mike Cassen. We got to step

7
00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,239
Speaker 3: up our.

8
00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,720
Speaker 2: Game, ladies.

9
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,919
Speaker 3: You know. I mean I just this new format, knew

10
00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,240
Speaker 3: us knew like we knew new reviews. People seem to

11
00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,920
Speaker 3: be liking it.

12
00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,560
Speaker 2: I get, so it's right.

13
00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,760
Speaker 4: Well, I texted you, ladies. I had to give a

14
00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,839
Speaker 4: little I had to play, have a little fun.

15
00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,600
Speaker 1: With and you've done that twice to me this week,

16
00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,920
Speaker 1: and I just any.

17
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,839
Speaker 3: Way, I facetimed you their day. You didn't call me

18
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,680
Speaker 3: back as you. I didn't.

19
00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,159
Speaker 1: I don't really look at my face times because I

20
00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,280
Speaker 1: hate FaceTime, so I don't look at them.

21
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,840
Speaker 3: So sorry.

22
00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,879
Speaker 1: Remember when you texted me and you were like, oh

23
00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, you're not going to believe this, and then

24
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,320
Speaker 1: you went away.

25
00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't literally handle that.

26
00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480
Speaker 3: The ultimate cliffhanger. That's what she does. She's like, you

27
00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,280
Speaker 3: guys are never going to guess, and we're both like,

28
00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,280
Speaker 3: what what you know?

29
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,440
Speaker 2: How many scenarios when I made up in my mind?

30
00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,920
Speaker 3: What did you think I had so many? Tell me

31
00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,479
Speaker 3: one I really can't. I'll tell you later. The the

32
00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,560
Speaker 3: first one that I no, you have to can't. Yes,

33
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:18,880
Speaker 3: you can.

34
00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,360
Speaker 2: I can't because it's about other people. I can't.

35
00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,000
Speaker 1: Oh like friends, kind of, yes, kind of all of

36
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,120
Speaker 1: the above. But I just you know, so I was like, oh,

37
00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,320
Speaker 1: I already made us about.

38
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,319
Speaker 2: Scenario.

39
00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,679
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, she was just at this,

40
00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,240
Speaker 1: so she was around these people. I mean, this is

41
00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 1: what my brain does when you walk away. Just so

42
00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 1: you're clear, that's.

43
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:46,720
Speaker 3: So funny, really ruminate. Oh yeah, and scenario I'm allergic

44
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,840
Speaker 3: to kale And we're like, all.

45
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,400
Speaker 2: Right, was that way a little bit?

46
00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,080
Speaker 3: Don't you guys know me well enough to know that, No.

47
00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160
Speaker 2: It could go either way.

48
00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Oh true, And even if it was a huge deal,

49
00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,680
Speaker 1: you'd still walk away and then come back to it

50
00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,960
Speaker 1: an hour later.

51
00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,760
Speaker 4: Right, I mean we were having a mental breakdown or

52
00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:12,720
Speaker 4: right there? I yes, I threw up kale rights.

53
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, back to what we were saying.

54
00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,680
Speaker 3: That's what we were saying.

55
00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440
Speaker 4: People seem to be loving this new format, which we

56
00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000
Speaker 4: love you guys, Thanks for hanging on tight with us

57
00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,399
Speaker 4: the Mirror posportive.

58
00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,359
Speaker 1: I know your post the other day where someone said

59
00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,280
Speaker 1: kit Kat like literally like made me smile so big.

60
00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440
Speaker 2: It was I love that they've picked up KitKat.

61
00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 3: I know, oops, that's okay, right, Okay, okay, it's cute. Okay,

62
00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,880
Speaker 3: we're not laughing making fun of.

63
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:36,760
Speaker 2: No.

64
00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,440
Speaker 3: I like it.

65
00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,160
Speaker 2: This is happy.

66
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760
Speaker 3: I would like even going to ocean mode. I just

67
00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,240
Speaker 3: was making sure that you're not like, okay, now I

68
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,680
Speaker 3: have it was cute, okay. I also loved how many

69
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,160
Speaker 3: people talked about what you were going through maybe funny enough.

70
00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,560
Speaker 3: In that same week, I had a therapy session around

71
00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:04,200
Speaker 3: it around family, primarily uh well, I would say, it's

72
00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,360
Speaker 3: both my mom and dad. But there was something that

73
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,160
Speaker 3: happened at Jolie's softball game and it was between It

74
00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,480
Speaker 3: was actually between Alan and I and it wasn't like

75
00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,519
Speaker 3: we didn't have like a fight or anything, but I

76
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,360
Speaker 3: told you know, he ended up He ended up coming

77
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,800
Speaker 3: with Roman and Jolie was up to bat. It was

78
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,560
Speaker 3: her first softball game in the season. I was like, hey,

79
00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,920
Speaker 3: can you come get Roman? And later on he's like,

80
00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,120
Speaker 3: why didn't you just like, why did you need me

81
00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,440
Speaker 3: to come ground. I was like I and I started

82
00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800
Speaker 3: kind of talking about that in therapy, and my core

83
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,160
Speaker 3: of it was I was like, my mom never went

84
00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,840
Speaker 3: to one competition ever. No, she never came to a

85
00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720
Speaker 3: skating competition. And my therapist is like, well, who drove

86
00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,680
Speaker 3: I was like my coach, I was like, no, granted, yes,

87
00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520
Speaker 3: did my mom have to work, Yes she did, and

88
00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240
Speaker 3: I want to you know, I understand that our parents

89
00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,839
Speaker 3: had jobs, but it's something that I remember as a kid,

90
00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,520
Speaker 3: not having my mom there. Now I understand. And then

91
00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,080
Speaker 3: my dad same thing, like he never came to to

92
00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840
Speaker 3: a skating at practices or anything, something that's always ingrained

93
00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,440
Speaker 3: in me. I was like, so it's really And I

94
00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 3: was able to have a really nice kind of full

95
00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,520
Speaker 3: circle moment with Alan to be like, hey, I know

96
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,200
Speaker 3: why now, I asked, and why I can't understand why.

97
00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 3: You were like, why can't you just watch him?

98
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,680
Speaker 4: I was like, but to me, I want to be

99
00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,040
Speaker 4: so present for my kids at games because I didn't

100
00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,560
Speaker 4: have that. And then I also saw when we were

101
00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,200
Speaker 4: at Jace's, I saw your your father in law or

102
00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,320
Speaker 4: your your father in law there and I was like, what.

103
00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,880
Speaker 3: A grandparent And it just kind of made me think

104
00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,320
Speaker 3: too how nice it would be to have that, you know,

105
00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,040
Speaker 3: support and people watching and stuff, which then brought me

106
00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,560
Speaker 3: back to u KB. But it was interesting because I

107
00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,440
Speaker 3: do want to bring up one of the comments on

108
00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,680
Speaker 3: the page. I'm tender today. I know, Okay, okay, all

109
00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,280
Speaker 3: that time, I know, but I want to come in

110
00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,719
Speaker 3: with that morning. But I also I almost I started

111
00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,120
Speaker 3: to comment back to it because I think I like

112
00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,960
Speaker 3: people going on our wind down page and having comments

113
00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,920
Speaker 3: in favor and not in favor totally. Let's let's chat

114
00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,200
Speaker 3: about it, right, And so one of the comments I

115
00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,440
Speaker 3: wanted to come to your defense in it, but I

116
00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,200
Speaker 3: stopped myself because I'm like, it's not really my defense

117
00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,760
Speaker 3: to do for you. So I thought this is a

118
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800
Speaker 3: good opportunity to bring it up on the shop for

119
00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:23,280
Speaker 3: perfect I love it, but no, it's good she allergic

120
00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,520
Speaker 3: to Kale. No, but it's a good point because someone said,

121
00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,240
Speaker 3: you know, Devil's advocate Kristen talks a lot about when

122
00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,440
Speaker 3: her when Preston's family does come into town, it's like,

123
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,680
Speaker 3: I don't want them to come into town. But then

124
00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,520
Speaker 3: she's saying, well, I need more help. So it's the

125
00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,479
Speaker 3: contradiction between I'm like, but it's two different things, and

126
00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,919
Speaker 3: I just want you to have a space to be

127
00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,000
Speaker 3: able to talk about the fact that it's one is

128
00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,840
Speaker 3: one is needing help in one. When they do come,

129
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,520
Speaker 3: it's not help, right, so I think, and I almost

130
00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520
Speaker 3: said this, but I didn't want it to come across.

131
00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,920
Speaker 3: I wanted it to be fully just my experience and

132
00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,159
Speaker 3: not throwing in money under the bus. Sure the help

133
00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,680
Speaker 3: that they're not. I've told you guys this before. I

134
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,719
Speaker 3: learned very early on in being a mother with the

135
00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,800
Speaker 3: sets of families that we have, that there's a difference

136
00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800
Speaker 3: between company and help. Yes, and my in laws are

137
00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,359
Speaker 3: wonderful company. It is not their fault. It's also really

138
00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,000
Speaker 3: hard because they're not in our every day. But when

139
00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,960
Speaker 3: I tell you that, there is not enough GPS to

140
00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,480
Speaker 3: get them from my house to a gas station. So

141
00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,240
Speaker 3: if I was to and Preston and I even talked

142
00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,000
Speaker 3: about this, you know, like what if they came to help,

143
00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,719
Speaker 3: will put it in air quotes, like if they came

144
00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,800
Speaker 3: to help, it would be so much else on me

145
00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 3: because he's not home, so he can't take care of

146
00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,040
Speaker 3: them that weekend, like they need their own people. And

147
00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:51,159
Speaker 3: and then I would run this risk of listen, I

148
00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,640
Speaker 3: don't I think they could figure it out. Maybe I'm

149
00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000
Speaker 3: not trying to be rude when I say this, Like

150
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,479
Speaker 3: I have a mother in law that doesn't leave the

151
00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520
Speaker 3: house ever. So it's just like it would be a

152
00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,240
Speaker 3: wild world for her out there. It would be overwhelming

153
00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,560
Speaker 3: for her. And that kind of spills over to a

154
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,200
Speaker 3: six year old kid having to kind of be the

155
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360
Speaker 3: adult in that situation, and I'm like, that's not fair

156
00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,480
Speaker 3: to him either. So I kind of wanted yeah, that no,

157
00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,080
Speaker 3: And I almost said that because I was like, I

158
00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,120
Speaker 3: know what this looks like. But then I and I'll

159
00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,960
Speaker 3: say this, I could call my mom and she could

160
00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000
Speaker 3: come into town too, And so I've had to.

161
00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,480
Speaker 2: Weigh that out.

162
00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,240
Speaker 4: Here's the problem with that piece, and I'm going to

163
00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,239
Speaker 4: come to your with that. With that, and I understand

164
00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600
Speaker 4: that comes all the stuff that we're dealing with in

165
00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:42,360
Speaker 4: therapy that is coming out that is hard to So

166
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,800
Speaker 4: it's like, do I want to have that anxious energy

167
00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520
Speaker 4: or and you know, have the help or do I

168
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,520
Speaker 4: just figure it out. It's it's a hard and.

169
00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520
Speaker 3: They don't know him super well. That's what I think.

170
00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,400
Speaker 3: It's hard if you grow up in a town with

171
00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,560
Speaker 3: your family. You can't imagine a world world where your

172
00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,280
Speaker 3: your parents are your brothers and sisters don't know your

173
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280
Speaker 3: kids at like the same level as your friends. But

174
00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,720
Speaker 3: for us, our friends know our kids really well, and

175
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,200
Speaker 3: so it's more comforting for Legend and cool for Legend

176
00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,400
Speaker 3: to have like the police family take him that day,

177
00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 3: which I've worked out, I think, and I'll still miss

178
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160
Speaker 3: his game potentially, but we'll see, but at least he

179
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,640
Speaker 3: has people he does life with, he does dinners with,

180
00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040
Speaker 3: and he does you know, like so they'll be cheering

181
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,640
Speaker 3: him on and that'll be super rad for him. Yeah,

182
00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,480
Speaker 3: so it is.

183
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but I think it's cool from that

184
00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,800
Speaker 4: is that a lot of people relate to that. They're

185
00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,520
Speaker 4: also trying to figure out how to get to a

186
00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120
Speaker 4: B and C all the same time, So a lot

187
00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,960
Speaker 4: of moms that can relate to that, I do.

188
00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 3: Catherine. Something else that you shared with me this week

189
00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,160
Speaker 3: are do you want to talk about it on the podcast?

190
00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,679
Speaker 3: Do you need a minute to think about it?

191
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720
Speaker 2: Which one I'm just kidding. Yeah, what would you like?

192
00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,520
Speaker 2: Sure we can talk about it?

193
00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,000
Speaker 3: Is? Sure?

194
00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,640
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?

195
00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,280
Speaker 3: No? I know? Do you want to tell everybody. We

196
00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,280
Speaker 3: gotta at least tell me.

197
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,440
Speaker 1: I know, I was trying to tell her where were

198
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,960
Speaker 1: coming in no, So I mean, yeah, I'm happy to share.

199
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600
Speaker 1: And it's just the beginning of the journey of it.

200
00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it'll be for me, But

201
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think I talked about a while back

202
00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,320
Speaker 1: that I went on Pam's program that she has to

203
00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,240
Speaker 1: lose weight before to get in shape and lose weight

204
00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,200
Speaker 1: before your wedding.

205
00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,400
Speaker 2: I did that.

206
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 1: I lost about seventeen or so pounds, kind of leveled

207
00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,200
Speaker 1: off right before your wedding, and that's like when it

208
00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,000
Speaker 1: was over. And then from there I kind of just

209
00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,240
Speaker 1: was done. And then I slowly and then quickly gained

210
00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,040
Speaker 1: all my weight back and then plus a little bit.

211
00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,920
Speaker 1: So long story short, went back to see, you know,

212
00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,080
Speaker 1: one of our lovely functional medicine nurse practitioners or.

213
00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,920
Speaker 2: Whatever they are that we love.

214
00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240
Speaker 1: We've got several of those, went and saw one and

215
00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,240
Speaker 1: so he was like, I need these numbers down. It's

216
00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,920
Speaker 1: not about the number on the scale, but these are

217
00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,760
Speaker 1: the numbers that are important for your health. Let's get

218
00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,000
Speaker 1: some of these numbers down. So then, long story short,

219
00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,080
Speaker 1: I asked him, well, how do you feel about, you know,

220
00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,080
Speaker 1: the weight loss shot, And he's like, I'm all for it,

221
00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,200
Speaker 1: especially for what we need to do for you. We

222
00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,360
Speaker 1: just need it for three to six months. So long

223
00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,320
Speaker 1: story short started that on I started the triseeppetide on

224
00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,960
Speaker 1: pound on Friday.

225
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,440
Speaker 2: How did you feel? Did you shoot? Give yourself?

226
00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,480
Speaker 3: How did your friend do it?

227
00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,280
Speaker 1: I did it because it came early. It was supposed

228
00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,880
Speaker 1: to come like five days. It came the next day.

229
00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, I really wanted to take it

230
00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,600
Speaker 1: for the weekend because they suggest if you eat more

231
00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,920
Speaker 1: on the weekends to take it like on Thursday or Friday,

232
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,160
Speaker 1: so you know and so, and I'm definitely a big

233
00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,760
Speaker 1: eater on the weekends. So I went ahead and did

234
00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,440
Speaker 1: it Friday. I was worried about how I would feel,

235
00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,480
Speaker 1: but I really have felt totally fine.

236
00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,679
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's important because you've done the blood work.

237
00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,679
Speaker 3: That's kind of like the professionals are always saying, I

238
00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,920
Speaker 3: think the people that get the sickest are being prescribed

239
00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 3: or not the right amount, and they haven't done There's

240
00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,040
Speaker 3: a lot of like shady clinics that have done this.

241
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,880
Speaker 1: There are, but I think a lot of it, and

242
00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,640
Speaker 1: they give you a lot of tips. So you're starting

243
00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,520
Speaker 1: at a very low dosage, so there is a chance

244
00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,400
Speaker 1: when I up to my next dosage that I could

245
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,920
Speaker 1: feel sick, you know.

246
00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,120
Speaker 3: So it depends a lot of times.

247
00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,600
Speaker 1: They'll get to a certain dosage and that's your sign

248
00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,040
Speaker 1: this dose is too high. You need to go back down,

249
00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,040
Speaker 1: or you're dehydrated, you're not drinking enough water. Like they

250
00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760
Speaker 1: sent me so much information that I feel like I

251
00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,200
Speaker 1: finally really understand it, and like drinking water thirty minutes

252
00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600
Speaker 1: before you eat in general, and not drinking water when

253
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 1: you and all that, well that how it empties your

254
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,360
Speaker 1: stomach when it comes to this, and like all the things.

255
00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,080
Speaker 1: So it's been very informational. I'm really excited about it

256
00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 1: because the reality is, at least for the last couple

257
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 1: of days, I'm still eating. I have a big appetite.

258
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm still eating. I'm just getting full faster, and that's

259
00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,120
Speaker 1: what I need. That's what I need for now because

260
00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,480
Speaker 1: I am I have a very big appetite. I can

261
00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120
Speaker 1: snack a lot at night, and I have not wanted

262
00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,440
Speaker 1: to snack at night one night since I've taken it.

263
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,360
Speaker 3: I could share your emotions around it like so excited, amazing.

264
00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Like great, like really really great around it. I was

265
00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,280
Speaker 1: so scared to do it and feel sick. That was

266
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,520
Speaker 1: my only thing. I wasn't worried to say I took it.

267
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't any of the things because I knew my

268
00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,200
Speaker 1: appetite was so big that that's where I really struggle.

269
00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,160
Speaker 1: And so, and when I'm really hungry, then I pick

270
00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,800
Speaker 1: really bad. So I've already found that. I'm like, hey,

271
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, I am a little bit hungry.

272
00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,800
Speaker 2: I need to eat.

273
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to pick that apple because I'm not

274
00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,040
Speaker 1: crazy hungry. I don't feel like I can't get enough.

275
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,559
Speaker 1: I don't feel so I'm already making better choices. And sure, yeah,

276
00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,920
Speaker 1: I ate a little bit of the chips and salca

277
00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,640
Speaker 1: last night with my family, But I didn't like over

278
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,559
Speaker 1: and indulge myself like I normally would.

279
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760
Speaker 3: What happens when you come off? Does the appetite come back?

280
00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,920
Speaker 3: Or how does that happen?

281
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,560
Speaker 1: I would assume so and so he said, you know,

282
00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,640
Speaker 1: he said, I think we'll do about six months, he goes,

283
00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,480
Speaker 1: and then we can address if we need to do

284
00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,520
Speaker 1: like a maintenance dose. The reality is to gain the

285
00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,760
Speaker 1: weight back. I may have to do a low dosage.

286
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,120
Speaker 1: It's every instead of every week, it's like two weeks

287
00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,240
Speaker 1: or ten days or two weeks. And that's what my

288
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,800
Speaker 1: friends do. Who they it's just a maintenance dose. You

289
00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920
Speaker 1: just take it less and it just kind of keeps

290
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,680
Speaker 1: you where you are.

291
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,439
Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned something to you on the phone.

292
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,400
Speaker 3: I said, there, Well, obviously there'll be a difference, you know,

293
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't know when, like you know, if you said,

294
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,680
Speaker 3: because I don't, I didn't notice that you put on weight.

295
00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,640
Speaker 3: I didn't either, that's the thing. And you said you

296
00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,280
Speaker 3: don't put it on your face. It's more.

297
00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see it in my face now

298
00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,200
Speaker 1: and photos for sure, but it's mostly belly and I

299
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:35,720
Speaker 1: cover it up.

300
00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because we're around each other

301
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,199
Speaker 3: a lot every week, but I don't. I don't notice.

302
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,280
Speaker 3: I didn't notice it, but we will most likely notice

303
00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,200
Speaker 3: a change. So I said to you, do you is

304
00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,719
Speaker 3: it okay if we say you look great, because I

305
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,280
Speaker 3: don't want you to think that you don't look great before.

306
00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

307
00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to be like mindful of that piece of it. Yeah.

308
00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,080
Speaker 2: And I really appreciated that question.

309
00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,240
Speaker 1: Such a fair question, and I will love it, honestly,

310
00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 1: Like she was.

311
00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,400
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I want to be like right now, you

312
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,440
Speaker 3: look right I walked in, I go, you're so pretty,

313
00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,880
Speaker 3: Like she's just so pretty to me.

314
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,440
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I probably got rid of that extra

315
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,600
Speaker 1: water weight in the last four days, but you know,

316
00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I.

317
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Do want to know the tips to the other like

318
00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,160
Speaker 3: eating drinkings.

319
00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,480
Speaker 1: So there's so many great things and about the protein

320
00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560
Speaker 1: and just all of those things that I do want

321
00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320
Speaker 1: to say. I think Pamelin's program that she does is

322
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,720
Speaker 1: wonderful and it taught me so many things about macros

323
00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600
Speaker 1: that I have taken with me that I knew. I

324
00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760
Speaker 1: just also was eating way over what I should have

325
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,720
Speaker 1: eaten and I stopped working out. But I am taking

326
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,720
Speaker 1: that into this. I am literally eating the same thing

327
00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200
Speaker 1: but a little bit less than I was when I

328
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,160
Speaker 1: was losing weight before.

329
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,480
Speaker 3: So I just that is such a great program.

330
00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,000
Speaker 1: It's such I just need and I can hope maybe

331
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040
Speaker 1: after this that my stomach gets a little bit smaller,

332
00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,680
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not as hungry and I won't be as

333
00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,280
Speaker 1: hard to stick to it because I'm not so hungry

334
00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,400
Speaker 1: in the in the future.

335
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920
Speaker 4: You said, then no water during dinner, right, Yeah, the

336
00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,440
Speaker 4: thirty minutes before that.

337
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,080
Speaker 3: You have you ever noticed that I don't drink water.

338
00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because it's not good for a digestive system,

339
00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,840
Speaker 4: especially cold water, and I love cold water.

340
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,400
Speaker 2: So it's drinking any before.

341
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,680
Speaker 3: Oh it's anything, yeah, but yeah, but I don't.

342
00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,240
Speaker 2: That's on like.

343
00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,480
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes before during and thirty minutes after. And as

344
00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720
Speaker 1: I rink it before, don't drink at all, don't.

345
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,640
Speaker 3: Drink it all during. So it's it's thirty minutes before

346
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,080
Speaker 3: and thirty minutes after. Okay, I'm not doing that. I

347
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,600
Speaker 3: drink water.

348
00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,720
Speaker 1: You think that you should have water, you know, but

349
00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,440
Speaker 1: it's and then with this medicine, it says it makes

350
00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,960
Speaker 1: your stomach empty quicker, so then you're hungry quicker than

351
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,280
Speaker 1: you would be. And so that's been a hard one

352
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,200
Speaker 1: for me because I'm you know the other I'm a

353
00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I love to have a diet coke with my lunch

354
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,840
Speaker 1: kind of person. But guess what, I'm not craving as much.

355
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,160
Speaker 3: Die.

356
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've opened.

357
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,240
Speaker 1: I've started one every single day. I think I finished

358
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,320
Speaker 1: a small can, but like I got one last night

359
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,880
Speaker 1: at the Mexican restaurant and I was like, why did

360
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,280
Speaker 1: I get this?

361
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720
Speaker 3: This is it good? And I was like, what, I think.

362
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,120
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing I've heard from friends that have

363
00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,080
Speaker 3: done it is that when it's done right, and even

364
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,240
Speaker 3: Nicole said this in an interview that you're like getting

365
00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,880
Speaker 3: yourself healthy habits and training yourself differently than so then

366
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,280
Speaker 3: when you do come off of it, you just approach

367
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,480
Speaker 3: food differently more like in a nourishment like ravenous kind of.

368
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,160
Speaker 2: And it's easier to do when you're so hungry, you

369
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

370
00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,320
Speaker 1: And it's like in that moment, it's like, yeah, I

371
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480
Speaker 1: know I should eat this, but just in all the cravings.

372
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 1: It's truly kind of taking some cravings away. Now having

373
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,400
Speaker 1: said that, I've done it four days, I'll let y'all

374
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,960
Speaker 1: know if that continues, it could change.

375
00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,000
Speaker 3: I could start feeling hungry again. I don't know.

376
00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,400
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say I'm proud of you

377
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,320
Speaker 4: because you you waited, you took your time, You really

378
00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,400
Speaker 4: throw it in thought through this. You know you wasn't

379
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 4: and you kind of battled with it back and forth,

380
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,440
Speaker 4: which I think when we were talking about it, it

381
00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,440
Speaker 4: sounded at that point you're like you were ready to

382
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 4: try it. It's like whatever you want to do, you know,

383
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,240
Speaker 4: just want you to be happy.

384
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, well and I will say and everyone does

385
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,760
Speaker 1: it differently. I feel good about it because A he

386
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,119
Speaker 1: was on board. And I mean, I'm going in next

387
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,600
Speaker 1: week and then I have to go in like we

388
00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,040
Speaker 1: have to go in once a month. I have to

389
00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,919
Speaker 1: get my blood work, I have to check things like

390
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,959
Speaker 1: we're gonna want you know.

391
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,600
Speaker 2: So I feel good about that.

392
00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm just going to look and you know,

393
00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,640
Speaker 1: not know that my body's depleted in all these areas

394
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,480
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I feel good about the way I'm

395
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,240
Speaker 1: doing it for sure.

396
00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:42,320
Speaker 3: Good. I love it. Did I hear you say you

397
00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 3: were emotional? Dude? Yes? Why tell us? Let me? Okay,

398
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,800
Speaker 3: how you're trying to cry? Kick, I'm just going to

399
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 3: be the talker today.

400
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm going to start this wine down by

401
00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 1: like such a pleading tip for you guys.

402
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what did we do.

403
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do listen, it has nothing to do

404
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 1: with y'all. Whatsoever are you at all? But I thank

405
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,240
Speaker 1: god follow me. Okay, find people around you who are

406
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,240
Speaker 1: with your kids. This has nothing to don't okay, so

407
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 1: kids that are the same age kids. Your kids go

408
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,120
Speaker 1: to school with, Okay, parents all the things, and decide

409
00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,640
Speaker 1: now how you're going to handle things as your kids

410
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,119
Speaker 1: get older.

411
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,160
Speaker 2: Pam.

412
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 3: And I've already had this social media, social media and phones.

413
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,040
Speaker 1: Phones and you know, all the things, because I am

414
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,639
Speaker 1: at a place where I don't regret necessarily that I

415
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 1: gave my kids social media. However, I'm not seeing an

416
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,199
Speaker 1: issue with my own child, but I'm seeing issues so

417
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 1: many around her, like depression and anxiety and all the things,

418
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, And it's starting to

419
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040
Speaker 1: really kind of freak me out because I'm like, what

420
00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 1: if she's that way?

421
00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 2: Or like is this too?

422
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,399
Speaker 1: And I'm not really seeing it with my son. He's

423
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: not really on it a whole lot. It really is.

424
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 1: These teen girls scroll TikTok. They don't care about Instagram.

425
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: They might be on there, not worried about Instagram in

426
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 1: the least, they barely get on there.

427
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 2: TikTok.

428
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,199
Speaker 1: They sit there and they scroll, and what happens is

429
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 1: their algorithm I think I've talked about this before, becomes

430
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 1: very depressing and very negative real fast to where that's

431
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 1: all they're seeing. So now we have a lot of

432
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: kids close to us that are really struggling. And so

433
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 1: now I'm like, man, so Emmy's around all these people

434
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 1: they're really struggling. What does that do to her? What

435
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 1: becomes normal? And I don't I don't mean to say

436
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: this in a bad way, but I think it's great

437
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 1: that we've normalized mental health and talking about mental health

438
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot. But I struggle with it because now TikTok

439
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: is a bunch of teenagers talking about, you know, just

440
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 1: the most depressing things and cutting themselves and killing themselves,

441
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 1: all of these things that now are so normalized in

442
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 1: a sense that it's absolutely terrifying. And I know we

443
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 1: have to talk about mental health. I understand that, and

444
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we don't, but it's so a

445
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: part of their life now that it's I don't know

446
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: if it's necessarily doing a lot of good in that regard.

447
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: And I struggle with that, and I probably need to

448
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: talk to someone about that. But so I started doing

449
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: a lot of research.

450
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: Now.

451
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 1: The other stuff is what I'm emotional about is middle

452
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: school girls is just hard, you know, boys being left

453
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: out all the things. If I could have people around

454
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: me and I didn't feel so alone, like, hey, I'm

455
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: only going to let them have Like she doesn't have

456
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: Snapchat right now.

457
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 3: I took that away.

458
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: We have one hour of TikTok a day.

459
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: She's struggling.

460
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 1: None of her friends have those kinds of like they

461
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: can have their phones as long as much as they want,

462
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: they can watch as much as they want. I have

463
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: no support there, and when I reach out to some

464
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: of my friends who are parents, they're not going to

465
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: do it, and so it just feels very alone.

466
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: So find your.

467
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: People that will stick to it, so you can go, hey,

468
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: look jolly, so and so and so and so and

469
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: so and so.

470
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: They don't either, you know, because that gets hard.

471
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: It's really hard to not give in when it's like

472
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: they truly feel like they're the only ones.

473
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

474
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what I've been dealing with this week.

475
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: She's fine on social media. I did take snap away

476
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: because I feel like they use snapchat as a way

477
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: to be very dramatic and things they wouldn't do on

478
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: text message. And I don't know if it's because my

479
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 1: daughter knows that I'm looking at her text messages, but

480
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: snap gets just very they feel like no one can

481
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: see it, so they just get very like, just very

482
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 1: dramatic and this is all I have and what am

483
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: I going to do in my life? You know, just

484
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: get so heavy that it's just starting to really weigh

485
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: on me.

486
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 4: So I was just talking to someone about snapchat and

487
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 4: I was kind of defending your situation, saying, well, it's

488
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 4: the only way that the kids communicate, and the girl said,

489
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: if they were really a friend, they're going to text

490
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 4: to invite the person somewhere. And I was like, that's

491
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 4: a really good point. I was like, I didn't even

492
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: think about that, But I'm gonna I'll end up saying

493
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 4: that to my kids to not do the snaps, to

494
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 4: be like, if it's your friend, they're going to text

495
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 4: you regardless.

496
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I'm learning though, Yeah, a lot

497
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: of kids are not good friends in middle school and

498
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: they will get left behind because you know what, I

499
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: could barely name a friend of hers right now that

500
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: I would consider a very good friend. And that's the

501
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: hard part.

502
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: Now.

503
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: I agree with that in that sense, and that's what

504
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: I've told Emmy, like, sorry, at the end of.

505
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: This day, you're so like I feel you're heaving us.

506
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm very heavy about it.

507
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have talked to a friend that we just

508
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: very much disagree and we've gone back and forth all

509
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: day about it. It's just I agree with you, and

510
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: I would hope that would be the case. But even

511
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: speaking to these mothers, it's like, yeah, that's just how

512
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: they are. Sorry, they're not good friends, you know, And

513
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: it's just like you get nowhere. You'd literally get nowhere

514
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: because I'm a person that addresses it, especially if we're close,

515
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: like if Ramsey was being mean to your kid, like

516
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you about it, like I

517
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: love you, let's figure this out. And I'm just learning

518
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: that I'm just kind of on an island over here

519
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: by myself.

520
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm just like, okay, well, I do think one thing

521
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: I always love and admire about you is you're not.

522
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: Afraid to take the hard route, yeah, or take it away.

523
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: You've you know what I mean, Like you've so like

524
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: what they're this will come across judgmental, but it's it

525
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: to me, it's the harder thing. What you're doing is

526
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: the harder It's definitely the harder thing. So it's like

527
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: for them to have to step in or step up

528
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: or to do something differently. I mean on a way, way, way,

529
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: way lesser level. It's the iPad for the younger kids

530
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 3: kind of saga, you know, where it's like people get

531
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: dependent and it's like, oh, I enjoy my breaks or whatever,

532
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: or that you just they don't want to make their

533
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: kids mad or shut down or whatever. And I just

534
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 3: admire that you're sticking to it because I think it's

535
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: really important. Well, they still have social media.

536
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: So I can't give myself too much credit because if

537
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: I were truly, truly, truly, i'd probably take it all away.

538
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: But I am. I haven't done that. If you could

539
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: do it differently now, knowing our ages of kids, would

540
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: you do it different.

541
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't have given it to him in the well,

542
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I say that I wouldn't have. I would have loved

543
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: to have a group of people and a group of

544
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: her friends all decide together, we're not giving them social media.

545
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: That's what I would have done. Differently.

546
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: I would have gone to these people and I would say,

547
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: let's make a pact. They're all good friends. Let's get

548
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: them texting and outside. They still do that, and they

549
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: still meet up and they still go outside. And I

550
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: know a lot of kids are not. But that's what

551
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: I would have done differently, and that's what I encourage

552
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: you guys to really do and have those people and

553
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: so then they don't feel so alone, because it does

554
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: feel lonely.

555
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

556
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: So Jolie's asked me about Cover Star. I was just

557
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 3: going to ask I couldn't remember the name of it.

558
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Well, Ramsey learned it from harl Harlow.

559
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Pam and I have had conversations about, you know,

560
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: when we'll do cell phones, and you know, we've kind

561
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: of touched on social media and I'm very much like

562
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: no for as long as I can hold out as long,

563
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 4: you know, and we got a Now I have hearing

564
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: this conversation, I want to tighten it up more with

565
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: her and I'll maybe include two of the other girls

566
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: around neighborhood, just to see if the moms are on

567
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: the same path.

568
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: Jolie's asked about Cover Star for a long time. It

569
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: was probably last summer she talked about it because her

570
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: and Harlow were doing it on on Harlow's iPad. So

571
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: the kids don't do iPads anymore. They rarely watch TV anymore.

572
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: And the she's she's, I mean, she keeps just asking me.

573
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: And so she was home the other day from school

574
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 3: because she had a cough and this school nurse call.

575
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: She's like, just got a cough and I'm like okay

576
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: and one fever. She's like, well she doesn't have a fever.

577
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, great, great check waiting, thanks

578
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: for Colin.

579
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: Right, and yeah, I had to go pick her up.

580
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: So so I picked her up, and you know, she

581
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: asked again and she's like, mom, She's like, we were

582
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: at Harlow's birthday and we were doing Cover Star?

583
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: Can I please have Cover Stars?

584
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: And again I was like, I don't even know what

585
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: this is, right, So I looked into it and it

586
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: looks like a kid's version of TikTok, very parental controlled,

587
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 4: the no bullying, the no you know there was a

588
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: parent even had to have a video saying I am

589
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: fine with having my kid have it. So I downloaded

590
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: it on my phone to obviously see it.

591
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: The app.

592
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: I created an account for them because I'm like, you

593
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: know what, they can use my phone for twenty minutes

594
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: a day, thirty minutes a day, and they they can

595
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: have fun with it because they love doing videos on

596
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: the monitor phone, like they'll they'll create these little videos

597
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: and they pretend they're talking to a YouTube channel, which

598
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm not uploading. But that's fine. That's their way of

599
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: being created for thirty minutes whatever, go for it. But

600
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: my issue with it was is they posted like four

601
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: or five videos and Jace primarily wasn't even Jolie, but

602
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: he's like, we only have one fan, and I'm like,

603
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: and it's a way goodbye, like we're not. I was like,

604
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if I'm like, oh, he is a

605
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: six year old and he's worried about how many stars

606
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: they got, like they got ten stars on one and

607
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: then they've got one, you know. And I'm like, I

608
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: know how algorithms affect me when it changes, not so

609
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: much anymore. The only reason affects me now is when

610
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: algorithm views change is because Instagram's in my livelihood of

611
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: how I support my family primarily, so it's it's kind

612
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: of get weighs on me when it's not. You know,

613
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: algorithms aren't great, but for kids, I've I've seen how

614
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: depressed kids can get because if they don't get enough likes,

615
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: if they don't get and I'm just like, so I

616
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: just took it away again. I'm like, no, this was

617
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: a nice trial run. I don't like it, and you

618
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 3: just don't need to be upset. It doesn't matter how

619
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: many fans you I'm like, your fans are all in

620
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 3: the house right here, and we love you so much.

621
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter who else is herding and liking your stuff.

622
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: It does if this is helpful, they might like this.

623
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all do this, but we do

624
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: screen mirroring to our living room TV. So I let

625
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: them record and then we screen mirror we all watch

626
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: it on the big TV. That's fun, and that's kind

627
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: of like fun for them. Does love dou Clever Star? No? Yeah, well,

628
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: but also and only because I just she has only

629
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: one friend that does it. And I actually super trust

630
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: and love this mom. So I've like been able to

631
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: like ask, but this this particular family, like their whole

632
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: livelihood is Instagram TikTok, so they're very in that world,

633
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: very savvy.

634
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: But she tried it.

635
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: And she was like, I you know, I tried this

636
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: with my friend and I liked it, and I was

637
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: like yeah, and she can we get it? So then

638
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: she's got legend on the like, can we get it.

639
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: They asked a few times, and I just said, you

640
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: know what, you can't right now. There's just a lot

641
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: more things we have to do right now than that.

642
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: And I said, I still love when Legend creates on

643
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Garage Band and you guys make the videos they do

644
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: this series out back, this nature series that they've done

645
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: that's hysterical, and I'm like, record more of those. We

646
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: can get an editing program and maybe I'll do that

647
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: and then can play it on the big screen. Yeah

648
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: that sounds I mean right now, they're just young.

649
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 4: You guys are still and again watching adolescents and then

650
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: seeing what actual comments. You know, I don't know what

651
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: emojis mean. I'm not in that guys.

652
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: For the longest time, I thought this guy had a

653
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: big nose and I couldn't figure out what I think

654
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: this is praying. So I need too and it's a

655
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: high five, right. I don't know what are you saying about.

656
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Ramsey was gonna say she I think she's still she

657
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: has it, but we went through and here's the thing,

658
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: she lost all interest in it because any account my

659
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: kids have have to be private, so you really can't

660
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: get a lot of fans. You can't get a lot

661
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: of likes, which really pisses them off at first, honestly, like,

662
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, Emmy really wants a public one and I'm like, sorry,

663
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: you know. But so with Ramsey when she did it,

664
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know this person? Nope, nope, nope, nope.

665
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: So it's like you can only have the people you know,

666
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: So she lost interest in it, ye because she's like,

667
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: what's the point I'm like doing this first.

668
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: These kids wanting this, that's why they do it. The attention,

669
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: not the attention, but they they want the likes. The

670
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: likes makes them feel like but again that's.

671
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 3: How and guys, I don't have the balance down, like

672
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: even the girls in her you know, we do a

673
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: homeschool co op two days a week, but there's some

674
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: girls that are on their iPads way more often than them,

675
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: so they're group chatting all the time. So then when

676
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: Love goes to school, she's like, well, they talked about

677
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: this or they talked about that, And I'm like, I

678
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: don't know what the balance is.

679
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: And that's where it's really hard because I okay, so

680
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I had posted those I don't know if y'all saw

681
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: I post on my social media, and I took a

682
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: poll about who lets.

683
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Their teenagers have.

684
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: You know, I have talked to so many people this

685
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: weekend after posting that, and so many people that are like,

686
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: it's such a balance. I would love for them to

687
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: not have it at all, but they truly do get

688
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: left out. So I do think you have to be

689
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: prepared for that. Well, it's also their world, yeah, I

690
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: mean like it.

691
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: It's about knowing your world enough so that you don't

692
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: get derailed when you.

693
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Don't get access take exactly. And I actually had a

694
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: conversation with my pediatrician about this. He was like, you know,

695
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: at some point, I do believe they need to be

696
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: introduced to it. So if they make some mistakes, they're

697
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: under your roof and you can help them with their mistakes.

698
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: If you wait till eighteen and they go to college,

699
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: they're going to learn the hard way and they don't

700
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: have you to help blah blah blah blah. So I

701
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: do agree with that to an extent. It's how do

702
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you find the balance. How do you make sure they're

703
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: still included, because I think that depression and anxiety and

704
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: all that can also come from not being included and

705
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going on, so it's hard.

706
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: Side note.

707
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: Just want to have one little tippit when we're talking

708
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: about Yes, we love the fact that mental health, we

709
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: talk about it more. Having said that totally, one of

710
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: the songs that she's been singing is a song called Anxiety,

711
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: My Anxiety, And I'm just like, I'm saying all that,

712
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: and Alan's just like, I don't think this would be

713
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: actually good. I was like, no, I'm actually agreeing with

714
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: you because I think it's I think it's good to

715
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: be aware about anxiety obviously, and we help her through

716
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: and we talk about these things, but we're also drawing

717
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: a lot of attention to it too, we really are.

718
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: And I mean she's just like, my anxiety, my anxiety.

719
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what I would love.

720
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Amy in a while. I would love

721
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: to go in and like talk to Amy and be like, let's.

722
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Get her on the shows.

723
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: I will do that because I have to do it.

724
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Three part.

725
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a part of the normalcy of

726
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: it that is making people go, oh, not that it's cool,

727
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: but is it cool?

728
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: There's a tension. Yeah, kids like attention and you guys,

729
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: I got a whine. Oh tell me.

730
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel like I just whined for like

731
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: twenty minutes.

732
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: No, you're good, girl, You're good. And I like the ketchup.

733
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: I like it when Janna catch up with kick Cats.

734
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: So I don't like my car.

735
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: I know, okay, are we still driving?

736
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: I just got really nervous about like some sort of

737
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: sponsorship that was my I went to managerial mode.

738
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Did you see it?

739
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know.

740
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: I lost my Chevy deal years ago, so I was

741
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: trying to get Hyundai deal.

742
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but that didn't come through. That's all right though.

743
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: So I loved my my Wrangler that I had, so oh,

744
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: I've loved my Range Drover. But then my lease was up,

745
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: and so I didn't love the new body shape that

746
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: came out. So I'm like, I'm gonna save some money here,

747
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: let's get into a Wrangler. I love a Wrangler.

748
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: Well, you know, then I meet Alan and you know,

749
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: he's like kind of made a few comments about the car.

750
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: But then I got pregnant. I'm like, all right, there's

751
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: no way I'm going to be able to fit because

752
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: those back seats of those Wranglers are so tiny, right, yeah,

753
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: So I got into and I had to. But I

754
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: so I had to get out of my because I'm

755
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: a lease girl. I don't care what anyone says. I

756
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: love leasing. I'm going to continue to lease. I like

757
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: to change it up every three years. Having said that,

758
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: I had to stay in my lease. This is the

759
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: negative part of it. And I needed to get a

760
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: three a three rower and I didn't want the big boat.

761
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: I thought about maybe getting the grand Wagon ear but

762
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: I was like, I really don't want to drive. I

763
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: don't want to drive them, mom car, I really don't

764
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: like but I will. But I just felt like kind

765
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: of big at the moment. And then it was a

766
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 3: little too expensive. So I got into my Jeep Cherokee. Again.

767
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: I'm just not a fan of it. I don't like it.

768
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: And so there's my wine. My My next topic is

769
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: we drove a mini van in West Virginia. Oh they're glorious,

770
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: they are.

771
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I loved it. I loved it.

772
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: I told Alan and I said, Babe, I'm not kidding you.

773
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: Driving this is better than driving my Jeep Cherokee. Oh

774
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: It's it's incredible.

775
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: And Jace is like, Mommy, can we get this car

776
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: when we get home, and I'm like, actually, honey, I'm

777
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: really thinking about it because it's.

778
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: So like that it opens. It's just my girlfriends has

779
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: a vacuum inside of it. She's vacuuming up cheerios with

780
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: the vacuum. Dream Like I gotta say, I'm like, mama's

781
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: that drive minivans that listen to this, let me know

782
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: your favorite one, because Pacifica that's a good one. I had.

783
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: So when my old old job, I had to drive

784
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: bands around sometimes when I was on the record label side,

785
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: and I always got minivans because you can't have grown

786
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: men crawling in over each other. And so I drove

787
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: Eli Youngban one time in a Pacifica and it fit

788
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: all of my big dudes in there, and it's it

789
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: just floats, and it's so it's made nice. It is

790
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: made for moms. It's intuitive. Every you're like, gosh, I

791
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: think I would describe my drink right. Oh, my drink

792
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: is right there. There's like coolers involved in vacuums.

793
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of space in the band.

794
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: I care about us a lot.

795
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: So I guess would you guys judge me?

796
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: Because I feel like for some I don't know why,

797
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: But why do we judge people that drive minivans.

798
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: I don't judge people that drive many vans.

799
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 2: I think.

800
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if I do.

801
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: It's like I.

802
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: Just think my mom because even my even my neighbor

803
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: made a comment to me, he goes, oh, you got

804
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: yourself a little a mom car, and I'm like that

805
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: hurt my heart a little bit. I know, I know,

806
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: but it's you know, why do people use that as

807
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: a negative? Yeah? Right, right, were right? I don't know.

808
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: I want to tell you what you got too?

809
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Mini vans sitting in your driveway, buddy, So I'm like,

810
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: I will tell you what.

811
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: No, you also have.

812
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: The you will hear from the moms that drive minivans

813
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I got over that real quick.

814
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, because they love their minivans so much.

815
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: I just feel like they get a bad name they

816
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: and we judge them because it's like the soccer and minivans.

817
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I guess I've always looked at

818
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: them bad until I drove one, and now I'm obsessed magical.

819
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like the way they look, and

820
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't choose one, but I'm judging people for doing it.

821
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: So agree the shape I don't like. I don't like

822
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: the shape, but I don't like the way they look. Yeah,

823
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: so my insides are great, they work great. My tiny

824
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: town like farm town self has to be up.

825
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why I can't do it.

826
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: They're too low to the ground for me like I

827
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: need to be. If they could lift, they could lift

828
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: a minivan. They think I'm in.

829
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I still say the most, but especially if

830
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: you feel like those SUVs are too big you would

831
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: love You're not.

832
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: Going to get a minivan though, I don't know. I

833
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: kind of see it. Yeah.

834
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: I can remember working at the management company having kids,

835
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: thinking about it for like half a second, and I'm like,

836
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? Show up and pick

837
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: up my artist in my minivan? I was like no, yeah,

838
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: and then I didn't judge it. I'm afraid I would

839
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: be judged for showing up.

840
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: My point right there, No the minute showing up so

841
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: I did. The minute the door opens on its own

842
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: and there's a cooler installed. People forget what they're even in.

843
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

844
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: A minivan sponsorship for all three of us. No, well, yeah, sure, guy,

845
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: They got we got covers on our ship. Are you

846
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: all a free car?

847
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: That's thing?

848
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's true. You will drive any free car given

849
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I would.

850
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm so cheap to that.

851
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: Like I love a free car, and I mean no,

852
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: granted I got lucky with a Chevy one because it

853
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: was a Camaro, and then my Taho, which I loved.

854
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: But like, if someone was like.

855
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: Here's a free car, or pay for this car, I'm

856
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: going to pick a free car.

857
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: And no matter if it's an if it's really you

858
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: got a camera, well you really a family? If I

859
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: mean a minivan is ugly? Oh true, you know what

860
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: I'm saying, no offense, mini bad moms.

861
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: True they are, but they're not like I was. I

862
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: love a good boxy Like, give me like a defender.

863
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: I love that, I love I love those Terassic Really,

864
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: she just.

865
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: Wants a free defender. If anyone can give her that, please.

866
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: That's never happening.

867
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: Having But I'm saying, hey, someone said you're going to

868
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: pay sixteen hundred dollars a month for a defender with

869
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen hundred dollars a month or a free minivan,

870
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: I will pick there. And you know me, I will

871
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: pick the free car. I will pick the free minivan.

872
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: Somebody send me a free mini you know what, someone

873
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 4: you're gonna go.

874
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: It was free totally, so they don't.

875
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: You No, Oh rock license plate is Can we please

876
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: put this out into the universe. Yeah, and then I

877
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: think we should do a podcast from the minivan.

878
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

879
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So we've got some headlines this week, one of

880
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: which I'm really excited about. You guys, one of my

881
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 4: favorite rom coms. Oh same, I mean, I think it.

882
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: I think it stands the test of a how to

883
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Lose a Guy in ten Days time. I do too,

884
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: which it has been how to Lose a Guy in

885
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: ten Days.

886
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it's so good. Is hands down my favorite,

887
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: one of my very favorite romantic comedies, and there has

888
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: not been one that has touched it since anyone but you.

889
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: I think that movie. Have you seen it? I don't

890
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: think so. Oh, I've seen it thirteen million times, I believe.

891
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean because the same thing Hallos on ten Days.

892
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: I've seen it probably thousands of times.

893
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Thousands. I don't want any hues.

894
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 4: Oh, but a goodie like a sex and the City

895
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 4: number one all the time, like on an Airplane devil

896
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: worse product seeing that a million times, but Anyone but

897
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: You is hands down equals I think, just as good

898
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 4: as How to Lose Guy in Ten Days Sidney Sweeney, which,

899
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: by the way, I have watched White Lotus didn't know

900
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: she was in the first one obviously, so that's the

901
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: only thing I really saw her in was Anyone but You.

902
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: So there was rumors that they might have hooked up

903
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: during filming, her and Glenn Powell, who I just think

904
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: is an absolute doll. He's adorable, so cute, great actor,

905
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like, whatever, who you know, rumors, schmumers the

906
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: whole thing, And now they're apparently you know, so she

907
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: broke off her engagement to her guy, which is so sad,

908
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: but also like, yay, you didn't, you know, don't marry

909
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: the wrong one.

910
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: We know how that ends up. But apparently they uh

911
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: were just photographed together at a Texas restaurant at the

912
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: same time, des Mois reported on its Instagram March twentieth,

913
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: and I just got so excited. So their families got close,

914
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: is my understanding, or she got close with his family.

915
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: I think they're super great, sweet friends that may or

916
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: may not have hooked up.

917
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: Who cares?

918
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: But I love them together, whether they're friends together.

919
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Well, she just went to his sister's wedding exactly, so

920
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: cute and that's so on brand for yeah, like the movie,

921
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: Like I was like, of course she went to the wedding,

922
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: so good. This is so perfect, like they're living in

923
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: real time the movie and I'm here for it, which

924
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: I love. Kind of thing. I do.

925
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: You are clearly big fans? Yeah, huge, huge, I see that.

926
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Can I get a free minigan and being greet with

927
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: Glenn and Sydney than you can Glenn deliver the minivan

928
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: and just tie this up with a bone.

929
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Why do we care? Okay, timing of all of this totally.

930
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: Are we worried that she had an affair?

931
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: They're saying he did.

932
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: I think back in the day, if I recall my

933
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: US Weekly scrolling, I believe there was Chad or that

934
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 4: he might have cheated on his girlfriend with her. Again,

935
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to be starting rumor. I think that's

936
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: what the rumor was also US Week.

937
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: But I can see where then others might care if

938
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: the timing is sus.

939
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: Sure, but also like if they're great friends and obviously

940
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: obviously they have amazing chemistry.

941
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: They're on screen. Chemistry is fantastic. Now whether there was

942
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: something sexual between them.

943
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: But was she with her fiance at the time, Yeah, don't,

944
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 1: So we don't care.

945
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: I think people can have really good chemistry without any

946
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: sexual energy like affair. I have a co star, we

947
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 4: have great chemistry. Nothing ever happened between us.

948
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, for sure, But like you, truly don't

949
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: don't care if there was an affair.

950
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Well, sure, I mean that's not great for everybody, but

951
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: it's not my business, my life.

952
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't like when people meddle

953
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: and is that the right word? Yes, yeah, in my stuff.

954
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: So I'm like, it's not my business.

955
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that that that I yes, I didn't get on

956
00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: board with.

957
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally objective anywhere people are sworling.

958
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I think it was the way you said it, like

959
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: the way it was kind of I don't care if

960
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: they had an affir Who cares, That's not you cut

961
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: it off for a minute.

962
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Obviously, I care when people That's That's where I'm going.

963
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: That's where I'm getting it. Dear Regions, don't care.

964
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: Taken a copy of the Good Fight?

965
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Do care a little? We do care.

966
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: I just don't none of your business, I would say,

967
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: if I had to be objective, and just in the

968
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: life that I've lived, I'm just tossing out the dearest reader,

969
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: the dearest gentle reader. Jenna Kramer cares excepsively if someone

970
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: as an affair and if you don't know that, you're

971
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: on the wrong effing podcast. I wonder if when you

972
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: see chemistry and other people, if that could be a

973
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: catalyst to ending an engagement, because if you feel that way,

974
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to speak from experience, be a little vulnerable here.

975
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: In a previous relationship, it was really serious and I

976
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: remember meeting someone who I ended up never having a

977
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: relationship with other than a friendship. But it was such

978
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: a strong, palpable chemistry and connection that I thought there's

979
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: no way I could possibly continue on with the person

980
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: that I was dating, because if I could feel that

981
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: way towards someone, then I couldn't be with the one totally.

982
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: And that's what and I have zero idea about I

983
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: wish we knew more about all of this. I think

984
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: Jana agrees.

985
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I would I want people to be had,

986
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: but I.

987
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 3: Just wonder if maybe that, like if you're filming something

988
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: and you meet this person and it's not even that

989
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: they had to have an affair, but maybe she just

990
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: felt was like, you know what, shouldn't feel like that?

991
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point. I also think it's

992
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to speak for the other people that are

993
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 4: not Sydney, England, when you see your partners having such

994
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: good banter and chemistry that then creates doubt insecurity questions

995
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: that then affects the relationship as a whole. So maybe

996
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: that also, whether there was or wasn't, I'm.

997
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Sure there.

998
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: It would be hard for anyone to see the connection

999
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: they have and not go is there something there? For sure? Yeah? Yeah,

1000
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: like I was disappointed she was engaged after.

1001
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: That for them, I love well. I mean I wanted Kate.

1002
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: And Matthew McConaughey to be together, of course, same we

1003
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: all did. Yeah yeah, Whitney and you know our dude,

1004
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: you're new chemic costume. You know. I'm just saying, like,

1005
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: I think I know me want to cry. I still

1006
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: think about the funeral when he cries. Oh my god.

1007
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only movie I can watch.

1008
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Can we get a us? Are we all pre Oh?

1009
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it's me again. I'm day three. Wow,

1010
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: I keep going so early. I don't know.

1011
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: My sister in law texted me and said, Perry menopause

1012
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: because I'm so sensitive and just crying all the time.

1013
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: But I just think I'm sensitive.

1014
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: Nicki Glazer is coming into town, which I'm going to

1015
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: see her show, and there's a headline right now saying

1016
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: she goes. I wish I didn't feel this way. She

1017
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: explained her sexual fetish for her boyfriend's sleeping with other women.

1018
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1019
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: So she basically said, there's been a couple of times

1020
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 4: years ago that Chris is hooked up with other people.

1021
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: Nicki said she's totally fine with it, so long as

1022
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: the other women knows it's nothing more than sex. I

1023
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: think girls sometimes can be convinced that he's going to

1024
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: leave her for me. It's like, no, that's not going

1025
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: to happen. So just know that this is it. She

1026
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: was talking with Gwyneth Paltrow. So basically, kind of her

1027
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 4: sexual fetish is that being with him, being with other

1028
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: people is what I'm Yeah, Chris, the idea of Chris

1029
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: with other women is a sexual fetish. So I mean,

1030
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: you know, like we just talkedalked about. I would not

1031
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: be okay with that.

1032
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: Girls.

1033
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 5: You guys, can you imagine, well what happens when it's

1034
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 5: not just sexual anymore? Even if that's just your sexual

1035
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 5: fetish and you're fine with it, Like at some point

1036
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: someone's going to get feelings.

1037
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 3: For also, Like what is is there anything sacred anyway?

1038
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: I know?

1039
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Like can we just then just maybe don't? I don't

1040
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: what is wrong with me? Am I getting to be

1041
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 3: an old lady? I am starting to feel that way.

1042
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: It's like I want to start my sentences with back

1043
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: in my day. But I'm starting to get there where

1044
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, can we just not have one sexual

1045
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: partner and move on? Yeah? Like what's hot about him?

1046
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: Or I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna spin

1047
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: it pr wise? Is this what she says so that

1048
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: when he's out doing what he's doing it doesn't look

1049
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: a certain way on her? Maybe she is.

1050
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: She's to me, I just seems always very confident and

1051
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: I could see it not bothering her. It would just

1052
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: really bother me obviously.

1053
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: As you know, I wasn't comfortable with the twenty plus

1054
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: women that my ex husbands slept with but I you know,

1055
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: I just couldn't. You know, I couldn't do that. I

1056
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: just I definitely couldn't. I just I'm what I want

1057
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: to I guess I want to go what is it

1058
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: about that that is a fetish? Like? What does that

1059
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: do for her?

1060
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: I think it's something that's intriguing, Right, So if I

1061
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: think back to I'm going to go back since I'm

1062
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 4: on White Lotus train right now.

1063
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: White Lotus season.

1064
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: Two, that couple they obviously slept with other people, but

1065
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: it was like a don't tell I know, but don't

1066
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: tell me. And there's almost something sexy about the fact

1067
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: that they had sex with other people.

1068
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: But that it was so it like it almost spiced

1069
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: up their marriage until it misses it all up.

1070
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I That's what I always think is

1071
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: the end is it's not gonna to me. I've never

1072
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 4: heard of a situation where people have an open marriage

1073
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: and it works great. And I know, personally, I just

1074
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: couldn't handle that because I don't want I don't want

1075
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: my I want to be treated differently where I know

1076
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: my husband just has eyes for me and love for me.

1077
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know she's saying it's not love. It's just sex.

1078
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: But I still I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

1079
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: I just think, And this is not me being judgmental.

1080
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't want it to come across that way, but I

1081
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: just think that's not what sex and love was created for.

1082
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

1083
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: That's not the way that it should be used. And

1084
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: I will stand up for that all day long.

1085
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: And listen, I will also say out loud, have I

1086
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: always been? Have I been a saint? No? No, no, no, no.

1087
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan girls listen to this too often to know me,

1088
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: and listen, I just to me, there's a deeper something there,

1089
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: or there's a disconnect there, and so saying this makes

1090
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: her feel frames it in a way that feels I

1091
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: don't know something. And I know people have all sorts

1092
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: of different fetishes and things that I just am like,

1093
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: he's been with a lot of people. Maybe he hasn't,

1094
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: but he's been with people before her, and that's mystery enough.

1095
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: So when you get to me, well.

1096
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: When she said something about how she likes that other

1097
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: people want him and that's sexy to him, Like, why

1098
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: can not just sexy enough for you to want him?

1099
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1100
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: I just think there is probably something deeper there, but

1101
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: that's for for them to.

1102
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I mean I don't know.

1103
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean with with my ex situation, obviously, I took

1104
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: him back all those times, but I always told Alan,

1105
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: if you were ever with anyone, I can't I can't

1106
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: be in that relationship. I would never I gave my

1107
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: ex grace. I can't give you grace. There's no way

1108
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: that's right that I can give you grace. Sorry, my

1109
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: grace ran up with that now and then you made

1110
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: a promise to you you would. But I just well,

1111
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: and here for me, I know what happens to me.

1112
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: But hey, if this is something Nikki like, it doesn't

1113
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: affect her that way, and that's how they keep their

1114
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: relationship alive. Awesome.

1115
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: I just fear for what happens in the end. I

1116
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: just I just wonderers turned more than sex.

1117
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, and she's a comedian, so I wonder

1118
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: if there's just something there's there's a comedic piece in

1119
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: here too, of like attention and being far out and

1120
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 3: being like there's something to that personality type that plays

1121
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: into this too, and I haven't figured that out. Yeah,

1122
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: like a piece of me wants to be like, you know,

1123
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 3: you're worth it to not have someone that's But also

1124
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: it's like maybe she doesn't need that. Maybe like that's

1125
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: not my place to say that because she's no, she

1126
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: knows she is, and like whatever that's her thing. Hey cool, Yeah,

1127
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, I just wonder if you sat her down

1128
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: in a couch on a couch and just really dug in,

1129
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: would that be the truth? I don't know. That's what

1130
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder.

1131
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: Well, I really like her a side note, like I

1132
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: think she's great, Yeah, I think she's incredible.

1133
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: Show. I also think she's really independent. So maybe it

1134
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: feels good just to be like, yeah, he does that

1135
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: and I do this, and he'll never be too attached

1136
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: because he's got this and he's distracted. And I don't

1137
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: know if, like a lot of times, people that are

1138
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 3: in the open marriages from what I've seen, don't want

1139
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: kids too mm hmm. And so maybe that's a different

1140
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: art it piece of it or something where it's just

1141
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: you're not trying to settle down, I guess, or I

1142
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: don't know.

1143
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: We had some friends. I don't know, we had some

1144
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: friends that.

1145
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, they got into the whole like swinger situation,

1146
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: and then it went south because you know, you can

1147
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: be swinging with other people, but when then they go

1148
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: elsewhere you know, to in the situation, go and have,

1149
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: then it's not okay, and it just it ruins relationships.

1150
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: You know, boundaries will get broken. I feel like in

1151
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: those situations, yeah, it always becomes more well because boundaries

1152
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: are already a question because it is the situation, right,

1153
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: Like it'll always be it's it's more and then more women. Yeah,

1154
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: that's the thing.

1155
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: It's like his my ex's first affair. He thought it

1156
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 4: would just be that, but no, you get rid of

1157
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 4: done with that person and then you start wanting other people.

1158
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Well this may be controversial to say, but fetish is

1159
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: in general, I think also can kind of okay, here's

1160
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: this fetish. Okay, well I've done that. Well what's what's next?

1161
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: Fetis Nothing extra turns you on, not necessarily, no, but

1162
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: I just I think that it's like if you and

1163
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that and like the in a negative way,

1164
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: but I feel like, Okay, well that's cool, we've done that.

1165
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Now we got to do this, and now it needs

1166
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: to be this, and now it needs to be more.

1167
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's what my fear would be

1168
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: in this situation. He would need more, I would need more,

1169
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: you know whatever.

1170
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: Right.

1171
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: I also might not be the right person to even

1172
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: discuss this situation because I just go straight to my

1173
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 4: own trauma with it all, you know, I just.

1174
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: Go super like, Yeah, I'm like, I conserve it. I

1175
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: just want I just want someone just for me. That's

1176
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: why I got married.

1177
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when I go conservative, like, I

1178
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: just I want to get married and have.

1179
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 3: Some people don't have that mindset, no one for sure,

1180
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: And that's like, okay, great, But I will say back

1181
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: to her things she says she doesn't she wished she

1182
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: didn't feel this way.

1183
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: So there is a piece then in there there's something.

1184
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 4: I'd say, there's maybe something there. Yeah, but and it's

1185
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 4: okay if that someone wants it that way too.

1186
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of this is it's it's whatever, and you want.

1187
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: I just I do wish when those things were sacred

1188
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: things more often than they are, And even in my

1189
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: own life, I wish I would have treated it that

1190
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 3: way more.

1191
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: Same one thousand percent. I think that's where my twenty is.

1192
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 4: La Jana Same.

1193
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: I posted this picture from Rode roles Jana, Oh was

1194
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: it you that were doing? I was like, I'm glad

1195
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: we didn't live in LA. At the same time, I

1196
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, sister, where would we even be?

1197
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: But that again, my La days was I was a

1198
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: lost girl trying to find love and a daddy's love

1199
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: that I never got, you know, trying to have a

1200
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: man tell me that I'm good enough, and it's like,

1201
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: you know, next, next, next, trying to find it, so

1202
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 4: sure took a while to find it.

1203
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: Here we go, hi, ladies.

1204
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 3: My biggest pet peeve with my husband is that he

1205
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: is always texting his guy friends in group chats. He

1206
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: is in so many group chats and his phone is

1207
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: constantly going off. We have been together for ten years

1208
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: and the constant texting has always bothered me. Somewhere through

1209
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: the years, I made it a rule that we couldn't

1210
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: bring our phones to the dinner table because he'd be

1211
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: texting all the time and I felt like I was

1212
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: always eating by myself. He would even text through dinner

1213
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: while we were on a date. I've brought it up

1214
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 3: many times before and he gets defensive and then says

1215
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: I am the same way, which is not true at all.

1216
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: The dinner rule held up for a while, but somewhere

1217
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: along the way he brought the phone back to the

1218
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: dinner table. Now we have kids, and I hate them

1219
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: seeing him sitting on his phone while we have dinner.

1220
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: I am always reminding him to put it down. I

1221
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: feel lost on what to do. Do any of your

1222
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: husbands do this? What else can I do to encourage

1223
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: him to put the phone away during family time? Thanks?

1224
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: Love the podcast. Hey girl, Hey girl, Hey girl, I

1225
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: want you to quickly look up the definition of gas lighting,

1226
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure that's what Homie did to you

1227
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: when he told you that you're on your phone too.

1228
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: That was my biggest annoyance with that email was because

1229
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, I cannot of course he said that back

1230
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: to yeah, of course, of course we're on our phone.

1231
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: Devil's advocate of what is when she really is? What

1232
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: if she is?

1233
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: But not during dinner time?

1234
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: But I think that's what he's saying, You are not

1235
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: during dinner, Okay, not during dinner.

1236
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: That doesn't okay. I brought it up many times before

1237
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: he gets defenses. Is I'm the same way? Which is

1238
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: not true at all? Which is I agree with her

1239
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: her saying, which is not true at all. I don't

1240
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 4: believe that girl is bringing her phone.

1241
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm not if she's making it no when bother her.

1242
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 4: She's because I am the biggest No phone's the table. Yeah,

1243
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 4: I don't like it. It's the number one rule. The

1244
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: kids know it.

1245
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: Anytime Alan takes it out of his pocket, Jolie is

1246
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: instantly getting up and she's.

1247
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 4: Like, Alan, no phones at that table. And I'm like,

1248
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: good girl, love that. Like, here's my one piece of advice.

1249
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 4: Put a basket by the dinner table somewhere. So it's

1250
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: if you have like a what's those credenzas buffet table,

1251
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: get a little cute little basket and that is where

1252
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: phones go, yours included, and phones go in that basket

1253
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: for dinner table. That's step number one. Yeah, and then

1254
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna gather more thoughts for the rest well.

1255
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: And then you're also teaching as your kids get older

1256
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: and they have phones, you're teaching. By the time you

1257
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: get to the point where your kids have phones and

1258
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: you're they're that old, they're going to know to put

1259
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: that it's not They're not going to think twice. Had

1260
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: I started that a long time ago? Which if we

1261
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: tell our kids to put them down at dinner. They will,

1262
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: it's not a problem, but like they would just not

1263
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: think twice about it, just be like they go in

1264
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: the basket. That would have been great had I done

1265
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: that years ago. We don't really have an issue with it.

1266
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: We hardly ever sit down to dinner together. We have

1267
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: but really at the table with your husband.

1268
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like it drives me crazy. It drives me

1269
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: crazy how much he's on it anyways, but we are

1270
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: running a record label sure from our home wherever he

1271
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: is he is, you know, Yeah, he's doing a million

1272
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: things all the time. Dinner is just the one part

1273
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: where I'm like, that just has to stop. And but

1274
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: I will say this, I think it's been less obvious

1275
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: to me lately just because he's been gone so much.

1276
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: But when he I feel like we're not eating, Like

1277
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: we're in that toddler phase right now, where like I

1278
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: think the sitting down all the five of us in

1279
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: maybe last three minutes, you know, that phase is crazy.

1280
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: But I really like I can't stand phones at the

1281
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: table at all. I'm also just like there is very

1282
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: few moments where the five of us just get to

1283
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: be the five of us. I just need those to

1284
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: be so sacred, even if it's one hundred and twenty seconds. Yeah,

1285
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: so yeah, I agree, it's really like to ask good idea.

1286
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: I think we might do that again. We cannot have

1287
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: sit down dinners very often, so when we do, we

1288
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: try to make sure our phones are away anyways. But

1289
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: I like that I might try that.

1290
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: So I think there's that. But I also I'm sure

1291
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: she's communicated it, but in a way where we how

1292
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: us girls can sometimes communicate like do you really have

1293
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: to pick up the phone again, or some kind of

1294
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: like passive. I know I've done that before, but just

1295
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: being when he's not on his phone, maybe do a

1296
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: check in with him and just be you know, just

1297
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: be like, hey, it's starting to really bother me. I

1298
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: love that you have awesome friends that you chat with.

1299
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: I think that's so great, Like so kind of praise

1300
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: the fact that he's got like, that's so cool that

1301
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: he's got great friendships and relationships. You know, we we're

1302
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: texting all the time on our messages, So just being like,

1303
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: I love that you have got some great friends, but

1304
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: can you just be more mindful of situations.

1305
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 4: This is regardless of dinner table. Ask it that's a

1306
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: done deal. But when we're on a date or when

1307
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 4: you know the kids are trying to talk to you,

1308
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: just to be more mindful that they're going to see you,

1309
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: their memory of you is going to constantly be on

1310
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 4: the phone. Like I remember when my dad the computers,

1311
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: you know, Dad, I'd be like hey Dad, I wouldn't

1312
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 4: get an answer till like five minutes later because he

1313
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: was always just so glued onto his computer. Like that's

1314
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: what I remember. Our kids are going to know that

1315
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: because of our cell phones. So I just think to

1316
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: maybe communicate it when he's not on his phone and

1317
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: do it from a more vulnerable piece and then say

1318
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: that you love for the friendships, but that it makes

1319
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 4: you feel X, Y and z why you don't like it?

1320
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, just the piece

1321
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: of like it makes me feel sad or not seen

1322
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: or whatever, because my probably I think that would be

1323
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: more frustrating to him. Also, if you've ever looked at

1324
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: your daily activity, it's a pretty rude awakening. Yes, it

1325
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: is so like the screen time that the iPhone pulls

1326
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: up for you is really that'll make you.

1327
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Feel And I bet it would feel different the fact

1328
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: that it's a you know guy, agree, like he's not

1329
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: working on his phone, you know.

1330
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1331
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: So I do think that that does feel a little different,

1332
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, if Nick is working on

1333
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: his phone, he's working on a contract or something. Okay,

1334
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: that feels a little different versus a he's still gonna

1335
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: keep talking to which I've talked to my friends way

1336
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: more than he does.

1337
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: But that would feel a little different.

1338
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: But maybe, like you said, not make it about that, though, right,

1339
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Make it about putting it down more and being more present.

1340
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1341
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: I remember my ex he would say please, he would

1342
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: he didn't like the fact that I'd get on my

1343
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 4: phone when we got in the car because.

1344
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: He felt like I remember that. I was just.

1345
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: Not that he felt like my chauffeur or something. But

1346
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: he is just like I feel. I think that's how

1347
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 4: he felt. Was just you know, he was driving and

1348
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: I would always go straight on my phone. So it's

1349
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 4: weird that it's not transferred into this with Alan where

1350
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm I said the other day, I'm like, oh, I'm sorry,

1351
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: He's like for what I was like, Oh, I've just

1352
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 4: been on my phone this drive, but I was just texting,

1353
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: you know, X Y and z Or bonding back to

1354
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 4: an emails like I don't care and I was like,

1355
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: oh well, and so then I told him the story.

1356
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: I was like, well, my ex didn't like that, and

1357
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: so I've tried to be more mindful with you in

1358
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: the car because I did realize I was like that

1359
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: did kind of feel maybe a little rude that I

1360
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: was always on my phone while he was driving.

1361
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: So like said that to me before, which was like,

1362
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: when I'm driving, you're like, oh, I'm just going to

1363
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: do this real fast on my phone or like, oh,

1364
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1365
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: I was because I.

1366
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: Don't want you to feel like you're just like my driver.

1367
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wouldn't think twice about it, but I

1368
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: remember you saying that one day and I was like,

1369
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: it's fine. But then, you know, I do remember you

1370
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: saying that about Mike. But I see that with my kids,

1371
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: Like when they're in the car, I'm like, hey, can

1372
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: you put your phone down and let's talk right, you know,

1373
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: instead of like you just being on your phone while

1374
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: I drive.

1375
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: Guys, they're just so consuming the phones. I think that's

1376
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 3: what's hard.

1377
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: They consume me. I mean, I'll be the first to

1378
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: admit it.

1379
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: Concerned I'm not going to be able to tell you

1380
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: where I saw this, but I read this study about

1381
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 3: phones and parenting, and then they had these illustrations in

1382
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: this study. I hope I can find it. But it

1383
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: was like the kid asking a question of parents saying,

1384
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: like buried in a phone, and I think even the

1385
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: vision of that or it's just such a life changing

1386
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: for me. I was like, man, and and guilty is charged.

1387
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to I'm trying to do business and

1388
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm trying to launch this and I'm trying and I'm

1389
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: not like fully always in and so I've tried to

1390
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 3: be better too. I'm gonna put screen time on myself.

1391
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone, I put a basket out by a table,

1392
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: and it can even be like you're in your kitchen,

1393
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: the basket, baskets go there and everyone needs to apply

1394
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: that's right. Phones go in the basket.

1395
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if he didn't put it in too, then

1396
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: that's a deeper conversation. All should go to therapy. I

1397
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: think that's disrespect would be yeah, that'd be tough, I

1398
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: think so, Yeah, I think that right.

1399
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like she needs to let us know.

1400
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: I think she needs to try this and she needs

1401
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: to let us know.

1402
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: How it goes. Yeah, don't forget to Yeah, because I

1403
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: need to know how this ends, because that would hurt

1404
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: my feelings if he was like stupid basket.

1405
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: Right right for sure?

1406
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: I hope that also, like dinner isn't that long, so

1407
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,959
Speaker 3: if like there might be like an addictive personality piece

1408
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: of this too where I'm like, why can't we just

1409
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: put that down for fifteen minutes?

1410
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, right for sure, like your haha roach out whatever

1411
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 4: things can just wait for a second.

1412
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, we love you

1413
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Have friends, so fun all right, ladies, until next week,

1414
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: Bye bye by