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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Beau Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a live on a First Friday Miracle edition

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Speaker 2: of the program, broadcasting from the undisclosed location on the

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Speaker 2: west side of Cleveland. I am merely bo. He is

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Speaker 2: the Great Gibbe. We will have a cavalcade of stars

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Speaker 2: today gracing us on the program, including the voice will

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Speaker 2: join us in the two o'clock hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: And the reason for that is we have public availability

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Speaker 2: at OTAs.

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Speaker 3: My friend I believe Elijah Moore is talking right now.

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Speaker 3: Sure sure, uh, Zadarius Smith just addressed the media. We

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Speaker 3: will have that for you later on in the show.

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Speaker 3: Our head coach is due to have a conversation with

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Speaker 3: us one Thornhill I believe could be coming to the podium. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then cavalcade stars and oh, by the way, at

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Speaker 3: one's gonna join.

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Speaker 2: A walk will join us at one thirty. So that's good.

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Speaker 2: This is I was. I was texting with the hoff

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Speaker 2: about OTAs and the mentality for it. The reality is

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Speaker 2: is that every owner and coach would want their entire

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Speaker 2: team at all of this. They would all want that.

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Speaker 2: They would prefer it. Yes, So any questioning to coach

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Speaker 2: to fancy about who's here and who is not understand

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Speaker 2: that if you hook him up to a lie detector test,

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Speaker 2: of course he wants his guys here. As a coach,

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Speaker 2: you'd want him to You'd want him to never leave.

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Speaker 2: You'd want them to never.

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Speaker 4: Leave in the off season.

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Speaker 2: You'd want him to never leave all summer, want them

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Speaker 2: at the facility year round. I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: people realize this, but our facility is open year round

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Speaker 2: to the players like they could come in anytime in.

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Speaker 3: Some long as they're under contracts. Yeah, as long as.

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Speaker 2: They're in a contract and some do many do you know,

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Speaker 2: through the years, there's been guys who have who have

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Speaker 2: who we see and who come through, but the vast

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Speaker 2: majority leave in the off season. When this latest with

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Speaker 2: this latest round of the CBA was introduced, well, coach

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Speaker 2: is going to be peppered at these questions. Then we'll

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Speaker 2: finish the story. Here's coach Tefanski.

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Speaker 5: Family to all of the friends and family and fans

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Speaker 5: of Jim Brown. As you all know, we lost somebody

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Speaker 5: very very important to our franchise, to our league, to

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Speaker 5: our society. The impact that he had was immeasurable. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure there's people that that new Jim as a player

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Speaker 5: as a friend much better than I did. So I

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Speaker 5: can't add a ton to that, but my brief interactions

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Speaker 5: for me are I'll never forget just talking to him.

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Speaker 5: The first day I got hired, I got on the

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Speaker 5: phone with him, which was a thrill. I was able

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Speaker 5: to meet Jim over the years a couple of times,

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Speaker 5: and just a mountain of a man in many ways.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we lost a very, very very big

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Speaker 5: part of our family. There will be time, as you know,

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Speaker 5: over the next few days, weeks, months, years, to memorialize Jim,

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Speaker 5: and we'll let you know what the plans are as

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Speaker 5: we keep moving forward. But obviously just want Monique and

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Speaker 5: her family know that we're thinking about them, and that's

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Speaker 5: here are constantly thinking about that. With today, you know,

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Speaker 5: Ota number two. Great to get back out here with

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Speaker 6: I thought the energy was there.

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Speaker 5: I really like how the guys are working every single day,

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Speaker 5: taking the meeting room to the grass. So really good

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Speaker 5: second day, and then we'll get our third day in

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Speaker 5: tillmorrow before we break this first group of OTAs, and

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Speaker 5: then we'll start back up next Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: But with that, I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 7: What's your thought on the new kickoff rule and the

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Speaker 7: impact the short term and long term impactic that had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it remains to be seen. I think

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Speaker 5: think we need to see how that all goes. I'm

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Speaker 5: all for player safety and anything that helps some player safety.

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Speaker 5: I also, you know, we get asked what we think

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Speaker 5: we'll adhere to them whatever they are. But it's definitely

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Speaker 5: at this point in the game where we are in May,

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Speaker 5: we got to look at it and see what what

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Speaker 5: our plan is now that that's a rule.

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Speaker 8: The third quarterback rule be active in or does that lead.

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Speaker 7: You to your favor keeping a third quarterback?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Good, good question. I think that's definitely something that we're

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Speaker 5: talking about. You know, we get time before we make

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Speaker 9: Seeing ninety nine out there the first time running around

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Speaker 9: and what he can add to this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Zadarius has been awesome just having him in the building.

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Speaker 5: He's a ball of energy. He's great around our players,

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Speaker 5: are our young players.

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Speaker 6: He practices hard.

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Speaker 5: He does a great job out here when he's in

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Speaker 5: on the fields, he brings some juice to what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: I do you think he can help mild or kind

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Speaker 7: of vice versa.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think all good players want to play with other

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Speaker 5: good players, and I think it brings out the best

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Speaker 5: in each other. I think competition obviously breeds that, but

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Speaker 5: also when you're pushing, when you have good players, particularly

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Speaker 5: I should say that are pushing each other, I think

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Speaker 5: it has the ability to bring out the best in you.

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Speaker 10: You've been around One Thorn Hill now for a little

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Speaker 10: bit more than a month, So what have you seen.

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Speaker 10: What does he bring to this team that you can't

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Speaker 10: just imagine in statistics from the friends city.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he brings good experience and playing some big

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Speaker 5: I think he's very cerebral so at that position, and

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Speaker 5: what Coach Schwartz is asking our guys to do, I

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Speaker 5: think is important and I think he's done a nice job.

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Speaker 9: Did you describe your personal question his defense out on

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Speaker 9: the field that Schwartz basis and personalities.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, we're so early into our

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Speaker 5: many more meetings and many more things that we'll get to,

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Speaker 5: but I think the energy is there. I really love

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Speaker 5: watching the coach's coach. I think they're all doing a

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Speaker 5: great job working with young players to old players because,

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Speaker 6: I think Rodney.

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Speaker 5: McLeod could probably coach it up based on his experience,

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Speaker 5: but for a lot of these guys, it's everything's new.

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Speaker 5: So when you run a coverage for the first time,

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Speaker 5: you may make a mistake early and that's that's okay.

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Speaker 5: So we're just trying to clean up any mistakes. But

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Speaker 5: I think all told, I think they're doing a really

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Speaker 5: nice job Kevin, what do you remember most about that

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Speaker 5: first conversation with Jim Brown and what were your your

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, tom My dad grew up and was you know,

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Speaker 5: grew up in Philadelphia, but was a huge Jim Brown fan.

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Speaker 5: And that's not uncommon for a lot of uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: people growing up at that age. I don't care where

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Speaker 5: became a Jim Brown fan early on in your life.

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Speaker 5: So for my dad, his too, you know, he loved

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Speaker 5: Wilt chamberlainly like Jim loved Jim Brown. So for me,

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Speaker 5: when I after I hung up the phone with Jim,

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Speaker 6: And then just having him in.

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Speaker 5: Town, I think it was a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 5: just spending some time with him. I mean, just unbelievable

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Speaker 5: what he's been through in his life. And we've we've

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Speaker 5: educated our players on that.

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Speaker 6: You know, last year we.

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Speaker 5: Took him down to the Hall of Fame and and

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Speaker 5: we watched a football life Jim Brown. So it's my

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Speaker 5: meant to our franchise, to our league. You know, you

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Speaker 5: stand on the shoulders of giants and and and that's

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Speaker 3: Considering what you said about the cuts being new, is

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Speaker 6: Annoying that Garrett's not gonna.

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Speaker 5: That's ah, I'm not going to characterize it. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a voluntary program. Tony and the guys that are here,

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Speaker 5: we coach them up. That's that's how we approach it.

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Speaker 11: Kevin, if you're a return guy, you know, and that's

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Speaker 11: a big part of your game, and that's how you

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Speaker 11: make a roster.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried that they.

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Speaker 6: Are now kind of driving you out of the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think we have to see how the rule plays out.

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Speaker 3: Jim.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of uncertainty there. I think

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Speaker 5: there's there are different uh. I think if you asked,

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Speaker 5: you might get two different reasons or two different answers

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Speaker 5: as to what impact that rule will have, whether it

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Speaker 5: increases returns or decreases returns. So I really think it

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Speaker 5: remains to be seeing. You know, the kicking game is

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Speaker 5: very important to us. We're not gonna take the foot

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Speaker 5: that that's a staple of what we do is making

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Speaker 5: sure we're great in all of our coverage and return phases.

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Speaker 9: You were in Minnesota that that you he had the

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Speaker 9: break breakout year with Green Bay and in nineteen what

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Speaker 9: do you remember about that version of that the areas

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Speaker 12: Do you see you you know, just you know you

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Speaker 12: kind of watched them up in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 5: You know, how much do you say, Yeah, we've all

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Speaker 5: gone against him, really on our offensive staff, you kind

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Speaker 5: of everybody's got stories are going against him. He's a

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Speaker 5: game wrecker. He's really difficult to defend in the run

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Speaker 5: in the past, he gives you an honest day's work.

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Speaker 5: He's got heavy hands, he plays hard. Uh, he just

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Speaker 5: he's even made a few plays just in these drills

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Speaker 5: in these you know, jogged through is where you just

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Speaker 5: watch his movement skills. He's big and thick and can move.

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Speaker 5: So he's done a really nice job.

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Speaker 7: Will result and more squip kicks.

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Speaker 5: It kind of goes back to what I said earlier, Tony,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I know that's definitely something that has

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Speaker 5: been talked about. Uh, but I think every team being

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Speaker 5: that the rule has changed this late. I think everybody

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Speaker 5: needs to work through ultimately what their plan is. But

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Speaker 5: that is definitely a potential outcome of that.

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Speaker 13: The first coordinator you've worked with to actually run the

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Speaker 13: reps as they're being done.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was in great shape.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I get to see Bubba workout, he's uh, he probably

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Speaker 5: do as I say, not as I do. Well he

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Speaker 7: Who aren't working, but they're working out.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday was a really really good day. Today was a

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Speaker 5: There are always going to be things that you want

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Speaker 6: Full speed mistakes. That's just and that's okay.

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Speaker 5: Probably yeah, I mean go back to three point shot.

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Speaker 5: to solidify what we want to do. What everybody else

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Speaker 2: the top of the show, addressing the media Day two

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the first thing that you notice is

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Speaker 2: season because you know, uh, the Elijah Morth came to

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00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: later and then you know, obviously the attention went to

440
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 2: the draft picks with Tilman.

441
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 4: But sure it was a very savvy pickup.

442
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 3: Goodwin was open. Goodwin made a lot of plays. Again

443
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: it's on air, but the confidence and you just Deshaun

444
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: looks more, he looks more relaxed, and it feels like

445
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 3: the pressure of the world is off of him a

446
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: little bit. And look, a guy's been through a lot.

447
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: Everybody's been through a lot.

448
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 8: Now.

449
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: There was, you know, the the uneasiness of everything that

450
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: he did, everything that he did last year for us.

451
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 2: Once once he was acquired here, there was always an

452
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: uneasiness to it. Every press confidence you were like, okay,

453
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 2: here we go. I mean, there was that, there was

454
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: just the complete unknowing of what was going to happen

455
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 2: in camp. There was I mean, my god, he was

456
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: he was told of the extended suspension pulled after a practice,

457
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: Like I mean, it was so that you were just

458
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: kind of always waiting for when's it going to drop?

459
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 4: When am I going to get hit over the head?

460
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 3: Exacting? And everybody knows. Everybody knows that it was coming.

461
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 3: It was just a case of how many games was

462
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: it going to be?

463
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have happened at any time, Like I

464
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 2: remember hypothesizing, could be into June.

465
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: There's no way they would let this go into camp.

466
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: Well they did let it go into camp, and then

467
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: it was like, well, certainly they won't, you know, this

468
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: isn't going to be something that they will decide well

469
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: into camp.

470
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: Well they did that.

471
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: It was well into camp and uh there wasn't anything

472
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: that was actually quick about any of it. So all

473
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: of that is off of him and for many of

474
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Speaker 2: who out there listening. And I mean this is just

475
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: firsthand from Browns fans. I talk to you all the time. Uh,

476
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: there's really nothing that I can say that I observe

477
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: were that anybody on the beat or you can observe

478
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 2: in an Ota next summer. By the time we get

479
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: to or this summer rather later in the summer, when

480
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: we get into the training camp practices, there's no observation

481
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: that we're going to give. That's going to be a

482
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: warm blanket for you. And he knows it and we

483
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: all know it. The only way that you're going to

484
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: be like, aha, this was all worth it. This is

485
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 2: the guy that you acquired that won't come until next September, correct,

486
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: and you're playing games at count. That's when it matters.

487
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 4: He knows it, we all know it, You all know it.

488
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: The beat knows it.

489
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: Like you can only be so excited about Platt practicing

490
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: on air. All that to be said, it is exciting

491
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: when you see because I think that jumps out when

492
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: you talked about Goodwin more obviously, Amari returns Tilman's an

493
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 2: impressive dude.

494
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: Yes, he's an.

495
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: Impressive looking dude.

496
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: Like just watching him run around a little bit, you

497
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: just it's a big target.

498
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: There's little things like okay, so so we completed every pass?

499
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, Okay. Everybody's like, well, it's on air,

500
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: but it's how the guys are running.

501
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 4: You can tell you've been it through enough of these.

502
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, Goodwin had a nice day. Goodwin

503
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: found all the holes because everybody's focused on Cooper and yeah,

504
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: everybody's focused on Elijah Moore and all of a sudden,

505
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: now there's other weapons. You have to account for every

506
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: single weapon. Yeah, and that, and that's how other guys

507
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: end up getting opportunities. And Goodwood made the most of

508
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: it today.

509
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd So that's a guy that and that. Now

510
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: you have what Kevin Stefanski is trying to do right now,

511
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: most especially is find out what DeShawn Watson does best

512
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: and how do we take advantage of these weapons so

513
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: that we get the most out of him in this

514
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: offense this offseason. Everything Andrew Berry's done in the draft

515
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: and free agency has been done to put him in

516
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: the best position to succeed and to put this, in turn,

517
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 2: in this offense in the best position to succeed. This

518
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: will be a fully formed DeShawn Watson offense through this

519
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: summer that is already being in that's been installed, that's

520
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: being worked on now, that will hopefully be perfected in

521
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: camp that you will all see unveiled to prove in September.

522
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Speaker 4: So this is a.

523
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: Different situation than what you had a year ago by tenfold.

524
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: But what you what you do notice immediately is this

525
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: is a better looking group than we've had in a

526
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: while correct, and some of that's DeShawn because he's great, right,

527
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: And so the one that jumps out to the only

528
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: other one to me that was like, wow, do we

529
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: have that?

530
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: You know?

531
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 4: Since I've been here now six off.

532
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: Seasons, the only other one I remember is that first one,

533
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: Odell's second season coming off the injury. When you know

534
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: you had Kareem Hunt in his at his peak, Nick

535
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: Chubb was of Nick's been at his peak for like

536
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Speaker 2: five years.

537
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 4: It feels like, but.

538
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: You had you had Chief, you had Austin Hooper, you

539
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: had Odell, you had Jarvis, and you.

540
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: Went, Okay, this is an NFL offense and.

541
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: Odell was healthy and he was flying around and that

542
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: this is different, but it has that feel to it

543
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: of man, there's a lot out here to work with.

544
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of weapons. And just when you think,

545
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: you know, and I know Nijoku wasn't here today, Yeah,

546
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: but just when you're like wide receiver, wide receive, wide receiver,

547
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford makes a play right, Jordan Aikins right down

548
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: the scene.

549
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: Pay attention to him, folks. Yes, there's familiarity with Deshaun.

550
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: They played together in Houston. He is a big time target.

551
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: I think he is a big it's a big dude.

552
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: There's another thing there too, right, I mean, there's.

553
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Another common denominator there. We have big weapons. Now, Tilman

554
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: is big, DPJ is big. You know that Cooper's formidable,

555
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Chief Aikins. This is a big it's a big group.

556
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: Harrison Bryant's not a small dude. It's a bunch of

557
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: big targets. And you gotta remember Watson six to two

558
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: like he's he's he's a high pointer. He's a high

559
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: point thrower. So I don't know, it's it's exciting. It's

560
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: exciting to see him out there. It's the second one.

561
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: It's on air.

562
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: I get it.

563
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: There will be a lot of talk about who's here

564
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: who's not, but it all comes down to Watson and

565
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: rest assured he is here. Most of the primary weapons

566
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: that he's gonna use her here and there. There is enough.

567
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: Everybody's getting their work done. And I would I would

568
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: say this, like the guys that aren't here, they're getting

569
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: their work done. Their proce you well, all you have

570
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: to do is follow them on social to know like

571
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: they're busy throwing up plate after plate after plate.

572
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

573
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I mean that they're doing whatever they need to to

574
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: be ready for the football season. They know what their body,

575
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: what it takes. The other thing, I will tell you

576
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: just strictly from an eye test, much bigger on the

577
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: defensive line, you got bigger.

578
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Miles either Yeah, Miles not in the mix.

579
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: So now you put him in there, then you really

580
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: have that. It was good to see the qwelback.

581
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. So he was actually at the combine. Uh, And

582
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: I did not know he was there in the in

583
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: the Unleashed episode. I was watching the Unleashed with and

584
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: I go back and I'm like, was that the quella

585
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: in in the booth in the suite? And I'm like

586
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: that was So I reached out to him and he's like, yeah,

587
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just talking to some people and doing

588
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: some stuff. And coach had him out here for the week.

589
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: He's here for a week, and that's great working with

590
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: players and working with coaches. I don't know what the

591
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what the next steps are or what

592
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: it is, but I think anytime you can have him around,

593
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: he's probably one of the ten best players since his

594
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: team's come back in ninety nine. He's a leader.

595
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's everything you need. He's a really smart football guy.

596
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: So if you have really smart football people who have

597
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: ties to the organization, you can have him around.

598
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 4: That's a win.

599
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: So I thought that was cool to see him out

600
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: there a little bit. And also just the Jordan koannashing

601
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: part of this. So just so people who didn't understand

602
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: what that was about, there was a question to coach

603
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Stefanski about he's wearing a jersey. He's wearing number fifty one,

604
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: and I didn't know that Schwartz had done this, So

605
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: apparently he does.

606
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: He's done this a lot of his.

607
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: Stop he wears a jersey of a guy on his

608
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 2: side of the ball who he who feels who he

609
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: feels like is stepping up or practicing at a level

610
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: that he appreciates. So today at practice he was in

611
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: the Jordan Kanashik jersey. That's that's what that was about.

612
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: Pretty sweet.

613
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool.

614
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a nice.

615
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: Cool nugget, you know, to throw a guy.

616
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: There was a great picture think Tom Withers tweeted it out.

617
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Kunashiks standing there in his fifty one and Schwartz is

618
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: right next to him in the fifty one.

619
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that that was cool.

620
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: I think it's something different. It's yeah again, get respect

621
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: from players. I think.

622
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: I really liked Joe Woods as a person. We loved

623
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: Mike Preefer as a person, loved him as a person.

624
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: Doesn't necessarily mean that either of these two changes that

625
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: were made are going to be demonstratively better, but we

626
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: can also acknowledge that they are very different approaches. Jim

627
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: Schwartz has a very different approach now we've seen it

628
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: for a couple of days than Joe Woods had significantly

629
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: different approach.

630
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: Bubba ban Tron was.

631
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: Running and running sprints and chasing down punts and kicks

632
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: as it. I mean, he's he was in here with

633
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: us yesterday. He's he could play right now, like he's

634
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: in physical shape to play.

635
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: You just heard coach yeah.

636
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: And Prief was always I love Prief Like this isn't

637
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: This isn't to say that that those that this is.

638
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: We don't know that this will be demonstratively better from

639
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: an offensive or special teams a defensive standpoint, but rest

640
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: assured is a very different tone and a very different

641
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: feel from Schwartz. From Woods to Schwartz, and from from

642
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Prief to to Bubba Ventro.

643
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: Here's why I was plug. I talked to Jerome Ford

644
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: after practice today for a future bp A and I said,

645
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: what's it like? You know, because because he played the game,

646
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: and he said, it's he breaks it down, he goes

647
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: and then once in a while we get his game tape. Yeah,

648
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: and we get and you're like, oh, okay, he he

649
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: babed at a pretty high level on special teams. Yeah,

650
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: so he just Jerome said, he goes, he sees some

651
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: things that I wouldn't recognize, but as a former player,

652
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, you got to be in this spot. Yeah,

653
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: you're doing this wrong, but tweak it just a little

654
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: bit and you're gonna be right. Yep.

655
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

656
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: So that's that's the type of difference that I noticed

657
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Speaker 2: as well today. You know, this is our first time

658
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Speaker 2: and I think that was very munch noteworthy. So in

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Speaker 2: We are joined by our star linebacker Anthony Walker Junior. Man,

687
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Speaker 2: it's so good to talk to you. I'm trying to think.

688
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: I think this is the first time that we've talked

689
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Speaker 2: to you in a very long time, maybe going all

690
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: the way back to last season. First of all, great,

691
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: great that you're back. Great to have you see you

692
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: back out there.

693
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Speaker 4: What is this all?

694
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the injury happens, all of the stuff, and

695
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: now here we are in OTAs again. What is this

696
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: time like for you? The challenges and then what does

697
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: it feel like to be back to yourself out there?

698
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: Now?

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00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how's it going. Appreciate you guys having me

700
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 12: on first and foremost, you know, gad to be back

701
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 12: in the city of Cleveland. Obviously being back on the team.

702
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 12: You know, thank you guys for you know, all you

703
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 12: guys support and you know, you know as a player,

704
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 12: you know, just we appreciate you guys so much. As

705
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 12: you said first day back, I mean not first off,

706
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 12: first you know OTA, like you know, getting going with

707
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 12: OTA now, but obviously we've been here, you know, getting

708
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 12: getting to work in and all that stuff. For myself, personally. Honestly,

709
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 12: last year I kind of used it as like a

710
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 12: red shirt year. You kind of just learn about yourself

711
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 12: and learn about the team, and uh, you kind of

712
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 12: just you kind of sit back and you watch everything

713
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 12: from AFAR and one is your time. You know, you

714
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 12: want to be able to just be like a plug

715
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 12: and play, you know, to be ready to go as

716
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 12: soon as your time, soon as I'm healthy and you know,

717
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 12: we're ready to go in training camp. So for me,

718
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 12: it's been a whole red shirt almost now, you know,

719
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 12: getting hurt in September and now we're you know, I

720
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 12: won't be in you know, back on the field, you know,

721
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 12: with the teams until you know, almost August, you know,

722
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 12: July and of July, so you know, that's almost a

723
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 12: full year in itself. A lot of growth mentally physically obviously,

724
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 12: you know, just you know, you learn so much about

725
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 12: yourself and how strong you you know you you mentally

726
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 12: are and all that stuff. And it's not it wasn't

727
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 12: an easy process, but you know, I'm working through it

728
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 12: every day. I got you know, great great training staff.

729
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 12: You know, my Dad's been there every step of the way,

730
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 12: you know, encouraging me and all that stuff. So I'm

731
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 12: very you know, positive with everything, but also man, I'm

732
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 12: just I'm insin to get back seeing the guys go

733
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 12: out there and compete. I was selling Deshaun and Elijah

734
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 12: and all those guys. Man, I just can't wait to

735
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 12: go out and just compete with you guys. You know,

736
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 12: I think you you lose focus of that when you

737
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 12: get hurt about the importance of being out there with

738
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 12: your teammates. You never want to take that for granted,

739
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 12: even to practice days, the dog days, when you know, no,

740
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 12: he really feels like being out there. But we were

741
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 12: rather there to get better, knowing that we have a

742
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 12: bigger goal and bigger purpose ahead of us. And I

743
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 12: think you know, like I said, that's one thing that

744
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 12: I uh, you know, you don't. I don't. I wouldn't

745
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 12: say I took it for granted, but you miss it

746
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 12: while it's going. And you know, obviously that's my itch

747
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 12: right now to get back out there with my teammates.

748
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: Heywalk, I'm gonna tell you something, man. We talked about

749
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: it on the show.

750
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: It was it was so noticeable when you weren't in

751
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: there abundantly, you know, for us, I mean, it was

752
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: just such you hate for it to have to be

753
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: the way that it did, but such an appreciation for

754
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: you the player, you the leader. It was abundantly clear

755
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: how much you were missed on this defense. From that standpoint,

756
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: and knowing what a student of the game that you

757
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: are from previous conversations and your your previous time in

758
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: the league, how difficult was it to watch? And when

759
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: is the last time that you had to sit and watch?

760
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, So it's funny, you know, I used to tell

761
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 12: my dad all the time, I felt invincible, you know,

762
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 12: like that I couldn't get hurt, you know, like I

763
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 12: felt like I took care of my body well enough

764
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 12: and all that stuff like I felt, you know, I

765
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 12: never felt like, you know, you have the Nixon bruises

766
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 12: and stuff like that, but never anything serious. And I

767
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 12: always credited to you know, obviously God looking over me.

768
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 12: But also you know that the time that I put

769
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 12: in and then boom would get a freak injury, like

770
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 12: you know, the one I had, which a move I've made,

771
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 12: you know, over ten million times in my career, just

772
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 12: you know, one bad step and then boom. You know,

773
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 12: you're our first season. So that was one thing I

774
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 12: had to kind of get over. I was kind of

775
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 12: devastated with myself because it's like, what did I not do?

776
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 12: And you know, how could I have prevented this? And

777
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 12: you know, sometimes you know, you can't question God's process.

778
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 12: And I took the time to reflect on that, like,

779
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 12: you know, this had to happen. You know, I had

780
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 12: to find a new appreciation for obviously my faith, but

781
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 12: also you know my time playing in this league and

782
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 12: how precious it is, so obviously you know that that

783
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 12: was big for me, and I I feel like I've

784
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 12: grown it with that. But like you said, you sit

785
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 12: back and you watching the game. You know, this is

786
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 12: the first time I've done that. Well, honestly, I didn't

787
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 12: miss a game till I got to the NFL my

788
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 12: rookie year. That was my first football game ever missing.

789
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 12: I've been playing football since I was four.

790
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: So then.

791
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 12: Get hurt my rookie year, miss some time. Then I

792
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 12: missed i'd say one game the next three years when

793
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 12: I was in Indy. But crazy part before that was

794
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 12: I tore my growing my second year training camp and

795
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 12: I missed all of training camp. So that's what it

796
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 12: kind of feels like now where you know you're learning

797
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 12: new new defense, which is what I had to do

798
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 12: my second year in Indy, and but I was hurt.

799
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 12: So I'm on the sideline looking in, trying to learn,

800
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 12: you know. So that's kind of what it feels like

801
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 12: right now. Obviously, you know, having a little bit more

802
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 12: experienced in the NFL and knowing that all defenses are

803
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 12: pretty much you know, the same with the little tweet,

804
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 12: So obviously I'm not as learning as much, but you know,

805
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 12: it's still the outside looking in almost and not being

806
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 12: able to grind with your guys. Like this is a

807
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 12: time where at all season you ground with your guys,

808
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 12: trying to camp, you grind with your guys, so when

809
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 12: you're out there on the field, it's just complete trust

810
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 12: and complete communication with them. And you know, still just

811
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 12: trying to do that from afar, and you know, it's

812
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 12: it's cool, though, man, I take it. I understand what

813
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 12: the process that I'm in right now, trying to help

814
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 12: my teammates get better, me and myself get better, you know,

815
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 12: you know, whether that's in the film room, in the

816
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 12: weight room and the rehab whatever it is, just taking

817
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 12: it day by day with d Yeah, I mean, I

818
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 12: just can't wait to get back out there. I can't

819
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 12: reiterate that enough.

820
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: It's coming through. I mean, you can hear just as

821
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: you're talking, the passion that you have for it.

822
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: And we all know that obviously, there is an isolation

823
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: to injury, right, all of a sudden, you go from

824
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: being a part of a team where you're around your

825
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: guys all the time, and then all of a sudden

826
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: it's And I know you've been around here a lot,

827
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: but I mean in terms of, like, okay, now, it's

828
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: kind of me And you mentioned your dad, I can't

829
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: imagine the important role that he played in that. And

830
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: you've you've have dealt with that part before once you

831
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: knew you were coming back. How how important was it

832
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: for you to stay connected to your guys, whether that

833
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: was be a text or via conversation or even running

834
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: into him, anything that was happening here in the building.

835
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: How important you are. I mean, you're one of the

836
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: leaders of this football team.

837
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 11: Yeah.

838
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 12: Well I was around the guys still. That was the

839
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 12: crazy part about it. I wasn't sure if I would

840
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 12: be back, but you know, I was still. I was

841
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 12: still in Cleveland for you know, a good amount of it,

842
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 12: flying back and forth doing rehab here and then rehab home.

843
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 12: When I was home, shoots, m J, Emerson and j

844
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 12: OK was at my house pretty much, you know, all

845
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 12: the time. So I was still around the guys a lot,

846
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 12: you know, you know, just though you know, that's just

847
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 12: being the prinstance you build. You know, that's bigger than football.

848
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 12: You know that those guys you know, you know wanted

849
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 12: to come and hang with me, and you know we

850
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 12: you know, spending off season together training and stuff like that.

851
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 12: So that was that was pretty cool obviously. Actually the

852
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 12: day I signed, MJ was the first person to know

853
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 12: because he was in on all the phone calls right

854
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 12: next to me. So so that was pretty dope obviously.

855
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 12: But yeah, you don't you don't, you don't lose that.

856
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 12: And I think for me, some big one, you know,

857
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 12: once we connected, you know, we're connected forever.

858
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 6: You know.

859
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 12: I never want any of my teammates to feel like

860
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 12: they couldn't pick up and you know, caught me at

861
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 12: any given second with you know, even if I'm not

862
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 12: on the team anymore. So, but obviously it's great to

863
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 12: be back around these guys, guys that I built relationships with,

864
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 12: new guys that we've added. Yeah, it's just it's exciting. Man,

865
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 12: It's an exciting time in Cleveland. And you know, the

866
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 12: standards are high and we understand that and that's what

867
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 12: we played a game for. So you know, that's where

868
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 12: our mindset is. You know, we gotta you know, we

869
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 12: gotta earn it every day and that's what we're trying

870
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 12: to do right now.

871
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Hey, Walk, what's the biggest difference from h from your

872
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: vantage point? And I realize are not all the way

873
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: in yet, but from a Joe Woods defense to a

874
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz defense.

875
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know me. I I love Joe Woods. I

876
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 12: really respected him as a coach, as a man first

877
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 12: and foremost. You know, a guy just you know, unfortunate

878
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 12: situation and where you know, it's it's the business that

879
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 12: we're in, you know. You know, like I said, that

880
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 12: doesn't take away you know him the coach that he

881
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 12: was or the person that he was. But I mean,

882
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 12: obviously Jim Short is a little different, uh a great

883
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 12: way though. Man, I appreciate him as well. The system

884
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 12: that he's bringing to us is you know, much needed.

885
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 12: You know, guys able to fly around, attack more and

886
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 12: and guys are guys are buying into it, and that's

887
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 12: what that's what it's all about. At the end of

888
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 12: the day. I tell the guys all the time, it

889
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 12: doesn't matter who's calling the players, who's the DC, who's

890
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 12: the whatever. Football is football and football is played with

891
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 12: the players that's on the field. So if we don't execute,

892
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 12: it's going to look bad on anybody that's calling the

893
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 12: plays or anybody that's not doing their jobs. So you know,

894
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 12: for us, that's what we're all about right now, the execution,

895
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 12: the learning of it, the fundamentals, the details, and that's

896
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 12: what this ota period, you know, the off season is for.

897
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 12: So at the end of the day, when we go

898
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 12: out on the field, we execute on Sunday. So, like

899
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 12: I said, it doesn't matter who's calling the play. And

900
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 12: we're happy to have Jim Schwortz.

901
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong.

902
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 12: Now, he's he's a great coach obviously with that Super

903
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 12: Bowl pedigree, you know, he he brings a different, you know,

904
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 12: different attitude to the to that defense and I love it.

905
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 12: You know, something very similar to Matt Ebert Flus who

906
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 12: was my DC when I was in Indy Verry. I

907
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 12: text actually text uh Flues the first that I met

908
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 12: Jim Swortz. I was like, hey, I think you have

909
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 12: a twin in this world.

910
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 8: They literally are you know, like literally.

911
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 12: The same kind of message, the same a tax stile defense,

912
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 12: you know, and and it's pretty cool to see. So

913
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 12: I'm definitely happy to be be a part of it.

914
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 12: And you know, just I think I think we'll we'll

915
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 12: we'll take a huge step as a defense this year.

916
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: The the other big other big changes obviously in terms

917
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: of the guys whill be lining up right in front

918
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: of you. Andrew Barry had a busy offseason obviously, and

919
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: one that defense was still going on last week was

920
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: Adarius Smith. But Dalvin Tomlinson, this is our even Siakiko,

921
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: we got to look at some of these guys today.

922
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: This is it feels like, I mean, I'm amateur eyes here,

923
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: but it feels like we got to I mean, we

924
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: know we got we're good, but we also feels like

925
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: we got bigger upfront. It feels like, I mean, Tomlinson's

926
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: a man. I mean, this is it feels like you're

927
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 2: gonna be able to to make some plays and run

928
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: a little bit with what we have up front in

929
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: front of you.

930
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 4: What do you make of AB's moves.

931
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 12: Ah Man, Ab has been cooking up in the kitchen.

932
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 12: He literally called me, you know when I signed back

933
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 12: and was like, you know, we're going to you know,

934
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 12: obviously you see the direction that we're going now, we're

935
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 12: going to make some big changes around the team and

936
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 12: you know, with the mindset of we're trying to win

937
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 12: now at the end of the day, that I mean,

938
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 12: you don't play the game for nothing less than that.

939
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 12: You know, anytime you don't win the Super Bowl or

940
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 12: you're not in the playoffs, you know, it's not a

941
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 12: good feeling, and it shouldn't be. So, you know, I

942
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 12: think Ab understood that, and he understood what we needed

943
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 12: as a team, and he's been, you know, doing his

944
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 12: best job to get it get the pieces together. But

945
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, you know, I always

946
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 12: go back to the players on the field. Have to produce,

947
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 12: have to perform, have to execute. And I've been on

948
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 12: a lot of talented teams here. Obviously I don't think

949
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 12: any has been as talented as this defense here, But yeah,

950
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 12: I've been on talented teams before that didn't win, and

951
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 12: I've been on less talented teams that did win. And

952
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 12: as all it all goes back to the execution. So

953
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 12: I'm excited. Obviously. The names are great and it's fun,

954
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 12: and you know, we got this guy. We got this guy.

955
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 11: But at the end of the.

956
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 12: Day, we got to put it all together and that's

957
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 12: the challenge and we're up for it.

958
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: Hey, Walk, I'll get you out of here on this one.

959
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen a specific conference

960
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: more talented than this AFC is right now. I mean,

961
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: you pay attention to the game, you can see this

962
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: has been an arms race this offseason in the AFC.

963
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: And so when Ab says and he said this stuff

964
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: publicly too, boy, he tells you like, look we are.

965
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: We're going like we're going to win.

966
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: And now that's the idea here when you look around

967
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: this building and you just you hit on it.

968
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: The really talented teams sometimes come up short. Sometimes you

969
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: can overachieve.

970
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: But as you look at this right now, does this

971
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: team have the pieces required both offense defense? Does this

972
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: have what's required to go out and do battle in

973
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: an AFC? That is just an absolute. I mean it

974
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: is a just a dog fight every single week.

975
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 12: It's going to be oh, no doubt, that's the beauty,

976
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 12: beauty of this game. We play at the highest level.

977
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 12: Every week there's an opportunity for somebody to win or lose.

978
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 12: And most of these games in this league are lost.

979
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 12: You know, a lot a lot of teams go out

980
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 12: and just you know, dominate and win the game.

981
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 8: You know, most.

982
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 12: Teams lose the game. So that's what our focus has

983
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 12: to be. Like, we feel like we can play with anybody,

984
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 12: and we sold that last year. We showed that the

985
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 12: year before when you know, we were in almost every game,

986
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 12: you know, and that's that's not a you know a

987
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 12: knock on. You know, we should have beat a team

988
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 12: or we know we it didn't do enough to win

989
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 12: the game, or you know a team didn't you know,

990
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 12: lose the game, like we lost the game. Like there

991
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 12: are times where we're like, we do this better, we

992
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 12: win this game, you know. So at the end of

993
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 12: the day, this is a huge opportunity for us to

994
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 12: win a tough, tough division number one. But you know,

995
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 12: you're able to get up the A s C and

996
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 12: get to the super Bowl. Like you said, this conference

997
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 12: is you know, it's really deep. You know, we got

998
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 12: great quarterback play up and down the conference. You know,

999
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 12: you got great defense, is great offense, great offensive line,

1000
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 12: all that stuff. So the team that gets out, I

1001
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 12: think the team that uh, you know, wins the whins

1002
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 12: the ASC is the team that wins the Super Bowl

1003
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 12: this year. And I hope we're that team and that

1004
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 12: we're putting in the work to do that. But you know,

1005
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 12: I think the A s C is the you know, toughest,

1006
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 12: the toughest side right now as far as that and

1007
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 12: it's gonna be tough to get tough to get out,

1008
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 12: but that's what we signed up for. You know. You

1009
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 12: signed up for this opportunity to play against the best,

1010
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 12: to beat the best, and at the end of the

1011
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 12: day hold up that trophy. So uh, like you said,

1012
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 12: it's not going to be easy.

1013
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 11: We know that.

1014
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 12: But you know, we we feel like if we do

1015
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 12: what we're supposed to do, we do our job, we execute,

1016
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 12: and we play smart football, we'll win.

1017
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 8: Man.

1018
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: If that happens, I just know you're going to be

1019
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: at the center of it. Thank you so much for

1020
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: your time. It is so great to have you back.

1021
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: There's an energy. Uh, You've got that it quality, man,

1022
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: and we missed it dearly after the injury last year.

1023
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 4: It's so great to have you back. Thanks for your time, pal, guys.

1024
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 12: I appreciate you guys for having me.

1025
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: All right, that's Anthony Walker junior're calling in on the

1026
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 2: Twisted Tea Hotline, bright to by Twisted Hard Iced Tea,

1027
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland.

1028
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: It's one of those things, Gibbe, that that didn't suck.

1029
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: No, he's great. Yes, he's great. I mean I'm really

1030
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: good too, But that was great.

1031
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: He's the the uh well, no, now we we.

1032
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: It was something.

1033
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: I'll give Z credit for this because he pours over

1034
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: the film. It was something that was immediately noticeable the

1035
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: second he missed a game, and at first you couldn't

1036
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: quite put your finger on it, but then you were like,

1037
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: that's it. There is There was a calmness that he provided,

1038
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: there was a guidance that he provided, and when it

1039
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: was gone, it went to heck it did, and by

1040
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: the end of the year it started to finally get back.

1041
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: But his loss was a monumental blow to whatever this

1042
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: defense could have been a season ago. Monumental, I would

1043
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: also and it wasn't. It wasn't something where he was

1044
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: filling up the stat sheet every week. No, it had

1045
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it.

1046
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: No, it was intangible.

1047
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: He made plays, but it wasn't It wasn't the stat sheet.

1048
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: It was what he did on the football field. The

1049
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: reason he had that green sticker week in and week out,

1050
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: that's right, was because he was the quarterback of that defense. Yep.

1051
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: And we lost a lot when he went down.

1052
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Little subtle things like moving guys in terms of where

1053
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: they are set up, moving them a foot here fast,

1054
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: like his football acumen is through the roof, and his passion,

1055
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: as you could obviously tell, is through the roof. And

1056
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: to have that back, we were all hopeful that he

1057
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: would be. Obviously, so too was the front office, and

1058
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: so too was a walk. It was such a good fit.

1059
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: But that that injury was a real blow that probably

1060
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: didn't get the attention it deserved by most in the

1061
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: time that it happened. But to have him back, and

1062
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: you can hear the enthusiasm and his voice, you can

1063
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: you can hear it, obviously, and that's that's gonna that's

1064
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: that's a big.

1065
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: Boost, Yeah, big boost exactly in the fall. And now

1066
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: you've got some other guys that have also come in

1067
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: that have done it at a high level that have

1068
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: some playoff experience that you know, can take what he

1069
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: says and tell the younger guys, hey, what do you listen?

1070
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: Listen to what this guy's saying, because we've been there,

1071
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: we understand it too. Yeah, and it's just you've got

1072
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: the vet. You've got a nice combination on defense, you

1073
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: got vets, You've got guys that have been in the

1074
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: league for a while that have and achieved a lot,

1075
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: except back in twenty twenty. Yeah, and then you've got

1076
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: and then you've got the rookies. And now you're bringing

1077
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: in some guys that have played in playoff games and

1078
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: been successful in playoff games.

1079
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, you got it now at every level that

1080
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: it's you know, that's proven.

1081
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: So it's yeah, that was nice. It was great to

1082
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: have him on.

1083
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Speaker 2: Jim Donovan will join us.

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Speaker 2: we are joined by the voice of the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: the great, the legendary Jim Donovan. Well, you know where

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00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: we start. It's getting warm. Where are we do?

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Speaker 3: We are?

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00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: Hey as well.

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00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: You've eating grass, but you gotta be worried a little

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00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: bit about that. Water supplies are good? How are the ponies?

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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, good to be with you, Bo,

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00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 11: and I'd like to begin our discussion on more of

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00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 11: a Farmer's Almanac kind of theme. Ah, you're hitting it

1110
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 11: out of the park there. You're exactly right. There was

1111
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 11: a time during the winter where my incredible wife, Cheryl

1112
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 11: was purchasing a lot of hay and I kept going,

1113
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 11: why are we buying so much hey during the winter,

1114
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 11: And she said, well, I mean, you know, if we

1115
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 11: have a drought, we're gonna need hay during the warmer months.

1116
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 11: And as I look at things right now, I think

1117
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 11: we are right there in the drought category. And there

1118
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 11: doesn't look like there's a lot of rain in the

1119
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 11: forecast for the next couple of weeks. And our horses

1120
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 11: are smiling and chewing right now. So Bo, this is

1121
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 11: this is what made the show Green Acres a network hit,

1122
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 11: because you know what, I grew up on the streets

1123
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 11: of Boston, and so I'm like Oliver on Green Acres.

1124
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 11: Suddenly I feel that this is a victory for us.

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: That's a huge victory. A clairvoyant missus Donovan, what a win.

1126
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: She could see it coming. That's fantastic. Gosh, to already

1127
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: have that hand in the barn before those prices come up.

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00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. That is beautiful.

1129
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 11: I climb into that hayloft and I take a look

1130
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 11: at a full house there of hay stack up, and

1131
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 11: I go, girls, because we all have mayors, we only

1132
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 11: have maars in our barn. Girls, you're sitting pretty here

1133
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 11: on this farm.

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Speaker 6: That is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, I I was glued to you on Friday

1136
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: on on Channel three with the uh with the the

1137
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: loss of Jim Brown, and you know that was something

1138
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: that uh, you know, you try to put into words,

1139
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: but you're one of those people who had I mean,

1140
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: there's a lot in our organization, I suppose, but you've

1141
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: had so many interactions with him through the years, and

1142
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: you have such a historical perspective on him, the man

1143
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: and the impact if you could, just for our audience

1144
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: who maybe didn't see, you know, some of that stuff

1145
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: on Channel three, just how does how do you put

1146
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: that legacy into perspective?

1147
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 11: Well, it was an incredible thrill to be around him

1148
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 11: as much as I was, and I had the real

1149
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 11: honor of being around him a lot. He had an

1150
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 11: amazing presence, as I'm sure everybody has told you as

1151
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 11: we've gone through these very sad days since learning the

1152
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 11: news on Friday, he just had that magnetism. I had

1153
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 11: just just amazing moments with him and and I'll relay

1154
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 11: one of them to you. So we were gonna do

1155
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 11: this is before nineteen ninety nine. This was probably back

1156
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 11: in the Belichick days, back in the mid nineties and

1157
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 11: we were doing a long form television show that we

1158
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 11: were going to base on Jim Brown. So we had

1159
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 11: secured the interview with him, and they said, okay, you

1160
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 11: can have him on Saturday morning. The Browns were playing

1161
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 11: the next day on Sunday in Cleveland. You have to

1162
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 11: come out to the Fieldhouse out there in Barrea and

1163
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 11: he'll be ready to go and you can have him

1164
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 11: as long as you want him. And so the only

1165
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 11: problem was my beautiful white Cheryl worked on Saturday. She

1166
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 11: was a barber, so she was a busy day for

1167
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 11: her on Saturdays. And we had two year old Megan Donovan,

1168
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 11: so Saturday was my day, my day to babysit. So

1169
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 11: I can't give up on the Jim Brown interview, right,

1170
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 11: So I say, well, listen, I'm I'm gonna load up

1171
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 11: the diaper bag, juice boxes, diapers, anything that she needs,

1172
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 11: Braham crackers, whatever she needs, and we're gonna go out

1173
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 11: and try and pull this thing off. So we go

1174
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 11: out at nine o'clock in the morning that Saturday morning,

1175
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 11: that Saturday morning, and we walked into the Fieldhouse and

1176
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 11: there he is, I mean that imposing figure and he's

1177
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 11: in a black, beautiful black shirt, black flax, black shoes,

1178
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 11: and he's sitting waiting for me, and the crew is

1179
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 11: set up and I've got Meghan, and there were enough

1180
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 11: people on the crew that I could kind of put

1181
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 11: Meghan with one of them while we started the interview.

1182
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 11: And we did the interview for about twenty minutes, and

1183
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 11: the camera people said, hey, listen, we need to take

1184
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 11: a break. We have to change batteries. So I said, okay,

1185
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 11: hey listen, can somebody watch Meghan for a moment because

1186
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 11: I'm going to slip out. And I came back in

1187
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 11: and bo was the most amazing thing. There was two

1188
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 11: year old Megan Donovan sitting on the lap of Jim

1189
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 11: Brown with her Barney doll, that purple dinosaur creature. And

1190
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 11: I said to myself, I said to myself, Wow, what

1191
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 11: a babysitter.

1192
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: Running back.

1193
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 11: The greatest running back of all time.

1194
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 8: It was.

1195
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 11: It was something I will never forget. And I have

1196
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 11: pictures to back up the story.

1197
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 2: That's I was just gonna ask, my god, I hope

1198
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: you have the pictures because that is absolutely priceless.

1199
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: You know, buddy, we run into, we hit run.

1200
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: Into surreal moments in this business, and if you try

1201
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: to like tell like eight year old Jimmy Donovan that

1202
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: one day this is You're gonna be sitting next to

1203
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: Jim Brown and he's be holding your daughter. You're like, what,

1204
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: that's an impossibility. There's no way to wrap your head

1205
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: around that. That is that's a tremendous story, just one

1206
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: of the all time greats in terms of of OTA's

1207
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: getting going here.

1208
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: You know, we get this.

1209
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Nathan and I talked about this in the last couple

1210
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: of weeks, and I sense this talking to our fans.

1211
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: It's it's almost like all of this is great, but

1212
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: let's just get to September. And I'm I don't want

1213
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: to wish away summer because I really enjoy summer around here,

1214
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: so I don't want to do that. But it does

1215
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: feel like there's just it's just about Deshaun. It's just

1216
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: about getting the best out of him. But one thing

1217
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: that is a and out here, Jim, and I'm curious

1218
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts on it. This is a more physically impressive

1219
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: roster than the one we trotted out a year ago

1220
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: in my estimation, What do you make of just the

1221
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: physicality that is out here this year?

1222
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 11: Well, I think that you probably took a look at

1223
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 11: that defense last year, and I think we thought it

1224
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 11: was in vogue at the time where we said it

1225
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 11: is lighter in way and garth, but it is very athletic.

1226
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 11: And you know what, if you said to yourself, Okay,

1227
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 11: if that's the way the NFL is going speed, agility,

1228
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 11: and the ability to go sidelines to sideline, count me

1229
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 11: in if we're going to win with that. Now, we

1230
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 11: had struggles with that, and as the game kind of

1231
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 11: slows down bow which it naturally does, especially here in

1232
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 11: our neck of the woods here, when the game slows

1233
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 11: down and it kind of slows down because of the

1234
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 11: weather and it becomes running game, it really does become

1235
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 11: a physical, physical test. And I don't know that we

1236
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 11: were able to measure up to that due to attrition within,

1237
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 11: but just in the way that we had designed our defense.

1238
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 11: So yes, defensively, to be sure, it is a much bigger,

1239
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 11: much more physical team. But the other thing, the next

1240
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 11: step that I think for the Brons and I heard

1241
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 11: it today and I hope it echoes throughout that locker

1242
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 11: room that there are two ways.

1243
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 8: That you win.

1244
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 11: You bring in, you win with your players, and you

1245
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 11: hope that they you know, they graduate up the echelons

1246
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 11: in their NFL career and they learn how to win

1247
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 11: big games and playoff games and conference championship games and

1248
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 11: hopefully a super Bowl, and you hope that they can

1249
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 11: do it, but if they can't do it, you have

1250
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 11: to bring in other players who have done it, and

1251
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 11: then they do it. But they also spread the wealth

1252
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 11: and the knowledge. So when I listened to onan Thornhill

1253
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 11: today and he talks about what it was like in

1254
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 11: Kansas City to play in those Super Bowls, to play

1255
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 11: in those epic games against the Bengals, what it was

1256
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 11: like that they knew they were going to win in

1257
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 11: Arrowhead Stadium week, that they had the utmost confidence in that.

1258
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 11: And likewise, when I hear Sadarius Smith talk about what

1259
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 11: it was like in Baltimore, what it was like because

1260
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 11: he had a good run in Green Bay, he had

1261
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 11: a great year in Minnesota last year, and how they

1262
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 11: can spread that to these players who I think need

1263
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 11: that education. I think that's an important step for our

1264
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 11: Browns to take because I think roster wise, BOH, I

1265
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 11: think we're fine. I really do, but there are those

1266
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 11: points in these games where they are going to have

1267
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 11: to answer the call when it gets loud in Pittsburgh.

1268
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 11: They're gonna have to get through that. These guys will help.

1269
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: I think I think you hit the nail on the

1270
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: head with this. You know, Nathan and I talk a

1271
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: lot about you know, we need some of our We're

1272
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: paying a lot of guys in their prime and are

1273
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: all in their prime and it's time to go. We

1274
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: say it's time to go. And I do think with Thornhill,

1275
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: with Smith, with Tomlinson, there is a Okay, this is

1276
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: how you go right, follow us right and well, and

1277
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: I think even so, I think you hit it out

1278
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: of the park. I think that's critical for what is

1279
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: trying to be done here is there's a pressure, right Jim,

1280
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: you can hear it. I mean, this AFC is a gauntlet.

1281
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 11: Oh, it definitely is. And but what I love is

1282
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 11: that these guys, for instance, you know Zadarius Smith said

1283
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 11: it three or four times today. Listen, you win the division, Okay,

1284
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 11: you go, that's the direct route. You win the division,

1285
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 11: you get a home playoff game, you win that. That's

1286
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 11: the progress. Okay. I mean it's great to get into

1287
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 11: the tournament, no doubt about it. But you the way

1288
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 11: to do it the smart way to do it, and

1289
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 11: it is going to be difficult across the board in

1290
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 11: the AFC, certainly in the AFC North, you win the division.

1291
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 11: Now that's a player who can say to these guys,

1292
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 11: this is how we did it in Baltimore, in Green Bay,

1293
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 11: in Minnesota last year they had a great year until

1294
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Speaker 11: they ran into the Giants in the playoffs. And certainly

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00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 11: what's happened in Kansas City, and that really is the

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 11: critical point, the education of learning how to win in

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Speaker 11: the moment and then carrying through that in the season.

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Speaker 11: Here's how you handle a two game losing streak and

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 11: get out of it. Here's how you handle a game

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01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 11: that kind of go sideways on you in the fourth

1301
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 11: quarter quarter and you have to write it, which we

1302
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 11: have been unable to do through the years. So I

1303
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 11: think that's very, very important, and I like hearing that

1304
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 11: from guys that back it up because they've done it.

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have.

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: Is there anything for you that you need to see

1307
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: from Deshaun Watson or that you can glean from his

1308
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: performance in OTAs or mandatory mini camp or training camp,

1309
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: or is it with you with DeShawn where it really

1310
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: none of it really matters until you get to September.

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01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, first of all, bo I think he

1312
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 11: is totally driven. I mean, I think he is driven

1313
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 11: beyond drive right now. And I think that he is

1314
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 11: trying to regain his footing in the NFL and certainly

1315
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 11: in that class of being a starting quarterback in the

1316
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 11: NFL and in the very talented AFC as far as

1317
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 11: the quarterback position to go. So I am I'm anxious

1318
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 11: to see, you know how the fruits of what. I

1319
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 11: think his off season started the day after that last

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 11: game in Pittsburgh, because I think he said, okay, six games,

1321
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 11: that's behind me. Now listen. There were some good moments,

1322
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 11: there were a lot of rusty moments. All right, now

1323
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 11: we're ready to go. And I want to be one

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Speaker 11: of the greatest because I think pre everything that happened

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 11: in Houston and last year here in Cleveland, he was

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Speaker 11: one of the greatest. I mean, he was on the

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 11: right course to do it. So I really believe I'm

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 11: not worried about him at all. I just think he

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 11: is so motivated right now. I mean I was listening

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 11: to Elijah Moore talk about how Deshaun behaved out in

1331
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 11: Puerto Rico. He said, you could never get the playbook

1332
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 11: away from him. Even when we were done and we

1333
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 11: were gonna have a dinner or something like that, his

1334
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 11: nose was in the playbook. That's really good news for

1335
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 11: all of us here. That means the quarterback is taking

1336
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 11: it super serious, and I think this guy is ready

1337
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 11: to go.

1338
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: Jim.

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01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: The other thing that I noticed, we had Bubba vent

1340
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Tron in here with us yesterday, and there's a tone

1341
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: to him. There's a tone to Jim Schwartz. Look, I

1342
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: love Mike Preefer. Joe Wood's fantastic guy. This is not

1343
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: to say that one way. We'll find out if one

1344
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: ways better than another, but this is a very different

1345
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: tone out of both Special Teams and the defense.

1346
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you agree?

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 11: I think so. And I think the other thing. You know,

1349
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 11: we talked about the players knowing what it's like to

1350
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 11: be in big games. You know, Bubba Ventrone knows what

1351
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 11: it's like to be a big time special teams player

1352
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 11: in big games. I mean really in New England. He

1353
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 11: was in big, big games and learned from the best,

1354
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 11: right with the Patriots and Jim Schwartz, Big big games,

1355
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 11: the biggest of them all when they won that Super

1356
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 11: Bowl with a brilliant defensive scheme that day against Tom

1357
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 11: Brady and the Patriots. So I think that the education

1358
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 11: process and having coaches that can talk the big time

1359
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 11: winning aspect of the game, I think that's important too.

1360
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 11: But there's no doubt. I mean, these guys know what

1361
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 11: it takes with their particular units, and I think that

1362
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 11: there's a level of Hey, listen, there's a lot of

1363
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 11: work to be done, and there's a lot of work

1364
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 11: to be done, and the only way you get it

1365
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 11: done is to go out on the field and do it.

1366
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 11: And I think that's what made has made both guys

1367
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 11: bubbav and Trump very very young in his NFL coaching career.

1368
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 11: Jim Schwartz's career is impeccable, with great successes and a

1369
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 11: lot of different spots. But I think that's the fact

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01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 11: that they've worked so hard and really drive their people to,

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 11: you know, achieve a level of excellence on the field.

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Speaker 11: I think that's what has made them such a muskeet guy.

1373
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 11: When you want a guy like that on your.

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Speaker 4: Staff, Jim, I'll get you out of here on this one.

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Speaker 3: There is.

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: There's a sense of urgency that you feel like it's

1377
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I think this offseason has proven it.

1378
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: The last time that you had this set, not in

1379
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: terms of like pressure where people are gonna get fired

1380
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but just from the standpoint of,

1381
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: like there's a sense of urgency to win right now.

1382
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: When is the last time that you that you felt

1383
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: that way around here?

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 11: You know, I think really bad, I'd almost have to

1385
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 11: go back. I don't know if it was a parent

1386
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 11: at all, that feeling during the new era of the Browns.

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Speaker 11: I would have to say it was in the Kozar

1388
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 11: years when they were taking those runs at Denver, when

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Speaker 11: they were there every year and they were it was Denver, Cleveland, Cleveland,

1390
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 11: Denver who was going to get home field advantage in

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 11: the AFC Championship game. And when the Broncos were winning

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 11: those AFC Championship games against the Browns, there was that

1393
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 11: feeling of, hey, listen, we might be running out a

1394
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 11: little bit of time here. Kozar's elbows a mess, you know,

1395
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 11: Mac and Biner, you know, are really getting a little

1396
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 11: bit longer in the tooth. I mean, that defense is

1397
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 11: getting a little bit older. So that's probably the last

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 11: time that I really felt it. I think everything bo

1399
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 11: back in twenty twenty when we went to the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: I think everything was kind of premature that in a

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 11: lot of ways, understandably so, because we were so head

1402
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 11: over heels with what they had done in twenty twenty

1403
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 11: and then we thought everything was righted and this was

1404
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 11: going to be an annual thing. That they made the playoffs.

1405
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 11: We probably put the cart before the horse there. So

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01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 11: I would have to go back to those eighties, the

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 11: Cozar years, the Schottenheimer Cozar years, where they realize, Okay,

1408
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 11: we're really good, but now we need to finish this

1409
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 11: thing off.

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01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't around that time, but that would have been

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01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: what it felt like to me. I think you nailed it,

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: as you always do.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't thank you enough, my friend, Thank you so

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: much for your time. Always great talking to you.

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Speaker 11: Good talking to you, bo. Have a great rest of

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 11: your day.

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Speaker 4: That is the great.

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Speaker 2: Jim Donovan, the voice of the Cleveland Browns, joining us

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Speaker 2: around the league. A couple of media things here. We

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Speaker 2: have this from the from the NBC's Sunday Night. They're

1439
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: adding more people.

1440
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't understand what the endgame is here unless you're

1441
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: trying to get more games ultimately and building a stockpile.

1442
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: Are you trying to go after I have no idea.

1443
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what you could be going after, but

1444
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 3: currently you've got enough for three broadcast teams.

1445
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got. So they're gonna add Devin mccorty into

1446
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: the mix. He's retired from the Patriots of course, after

1447
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: through Super Bowl titles. He's headed to Sunday Night Football.

1448
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: He will be joined there with Maria Taylor, Tony Dungee,

1449
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: Chris Simms, Jason Garrett, Mike Florio. So he'll be in studio.

1450
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: There will be five of them in studios what it

1451
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: sounds like, which is a heavy load. And then they'll

1452
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: have Jack Collinsworth boy Z's Boy, he's the collins Worth.

1453
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Jack Collinsworth and Rodney Harris are going to appear at

1454
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: the site of games. They took Rodney off of the studio,

1455
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: put him on site with Jack, and then Devin McCarty's

1456
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: gonna hop into into that every week.

1457
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 3: Rodney looks about as excited as a Thursday night game

1458
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: he does. He feels very excited. That's a lot of people.

1459
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: And Maria Taylor is gonna double dip because she's going

1460
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: to do the big ten stuff on Sunday on Saturday really,

1461
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: so she's gonna do that pregame stuff around the Big

1462
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: Ten games on Sabbath Saturday at seven thirty n NBC,

1463
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: and then she'll do the.

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: Does Sims do Notre Dame? I mean, I know, I

1465
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: know Jack does?

1466
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: Jack does not? No, it's no Jack and Garrett isn't it?

1467
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: Does Jack do it with Garrett? I felt like he

1468
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: was doing something studio. Maybe he could be, but I

1469
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: think I think Jason Garrett does those games with Jack

1470
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: Collinsworth on Notre Dame Football, I think, but that adds

1471
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: to an already packed I don't know why everybody thinks

1472
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,520
Speaker 2: they got to have so many people on these shows.

1473
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: What I don't understand it, Like Fox has a ton

1474
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: of them.

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: What do you what are you paying them? I don't know.

1476
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, especially if they're on for only two or

1477
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,440
Speaker 3: three minutes.

1478
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 4: In a in a segment, how you're getting the value?

1479
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: Like even like you know, the Fox NFL Sunday Show,

1480
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 2: I think when I think it won an Emmy of

1481
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: the National Emmys over the week this week, couple of

1482
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: days ago, it's like, man, that's that is a show

1483
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: with so many voices on it, Like whatever you're paying

1484
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: like Bradshawn Howie and whatever, like is there even time

1485
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 2: for them to get anything done? You know, it almost

1486
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: feels like not. I think they're just overstuffing them. I

1487
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: think there's a pretty clear path for best studio show.

1488
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: Like Inside the NBA, it's four people, that's it, that's it,

1489
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: and they do a lot of talking like they're not

1490
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: this or they're going out to sites like they do

1491
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: a lot of talking. It's four voices, you've heard a

1492
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: lot who have great chemistry. That's the key to it.

1493
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: Like Game Day has that to a certain extent because

1494
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: it limiteds to just four people, although they rotate who's

1495
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: on the desk.

1496
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 4: You more is not better.

1497
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: But my argument, my argument is this, it's only an

1498
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 3: hour pregame show.

1499
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like it's not like a Game Day

1501
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: where they're on the ear starting at nine or at

1502
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 3: ten o'clock and you're you know, you've got a lot

1503
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: of things to cover and a lot of people that

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01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 3: can cover. It's one hour and you're recapping the day

1505
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Yeah, so it's not this isn't you

1506
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 3: don't have to go outside the box, matter of fact,

1507
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 3: and there I would love for you to go to

1508
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: like the ESPN route the way they used to recap.

1509
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the prime time.

1510
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's and you're going

1511
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: to Florio with the reports.

1512
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah, it's a pact.

1513
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't I don't know.

1514
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't think bigger is necessarily better when it comes

1515
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 2: to that. The New York Jets are gonna host Matt

1516
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: Reza for a workout on Wednesday. The free agent Punters

1517
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 2: agent told Adam Schefter he was released by the Bills

1518
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: last year and after being wrong as wrongfully accused of

1519
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: being involved in a ledge gang rape of a seventeen

1520
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: year old girl, that came out that he was not

1521
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 2: involved with that there was no wrongdoing for him. He yeah, absolutely,

1522
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: he was a prime prospect by the time he when

1523
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: he was coming out of the league, and there's no

1524
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: wrongdoing there. So so he's gonna he'll get that opportunity.

1525
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: And well, I can't imagine, like what type of shape

1526
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, how do you even I can't even imagine

1527
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: managing the last year in that when you're dealing with

1528
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: all of that.

1529
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 4: No, it's crazy.

1530
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, the kid has been cleared,

1531
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: so good luck. I hopefully you can get back on

1532
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 3: your feet and resume some kind of career in the NFL.

1533
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, DeAndre Hopkins with this, he was talking about

1534
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: what he wants in a in an NFL team. So

1535
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: he was on the this is via yacht I think

1536
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: there was on a podcast, wasn't it.

1537
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: It was on a podcast and then Yahoo picked it.

1538
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: So he says, quote, so stable management, A quarterback who

1539
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: loves the game, a quarterback who brings everybody on board

1540
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: with him and pushes not just himself but people around him.

1541
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't need a great QB. I've done it with

1542
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: subpar QB. He's just a QB loves the.

1543
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 4: Game like I do.

1544
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: So what's interesting is is the teams that he mentioned,

1545
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: he mentioned five. One was Baltimore and one was Philly.

1546
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo was at the top of his list.

1547
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: We didn't make it.

1548
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: We were not one of the five. So Kansas City, Yeah,

1549
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: Kansas City, which that would be. You know, I think

1550
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: anybody if you're if you're talking bargain basement money, go

1551
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: there in the home run.

1552
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 4: I would tell you this. And I have no idea

1553
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: the relationship.

1554
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: Between him and him and Deshaun, But would I want

1555
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins yep?

1556
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 4: Yep, sign me up. Give him to me.

1557
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'd love him all the more. The merrier, weapons, weapons, weapons,

1558
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: arms race, get me all that I can. So, Yeah,

1559
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: I absolutely, I absolutely would do that.

1560
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: I I it's weird because is he slamming Kyler.

1561
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: It and he's I mean, Kyler's not going to play

1562
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: next year. I don't think I think he's red shirting.

1563
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: Oh we think he should, but I think.

1564
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: He's gonna sit it. I think they'll sit it out.

1565
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Kyler Murray will even play

1566
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: next year. At which point you know you don't want

1567
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: to be catching balls from Colt McCoy if you're DeAndre Hopkins.

1568
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: There's a mortality to this. He's staring down the barrel

1569
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: of his football mortality, Like how many more great years

1570
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: does he have?

1571
01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: One?

1572
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 8: Two?

1573
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: Like he's he's got to go.

1574
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: I mean, of the ones every he would make a

1575
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: difference on every one of these destinations that are mentioned,

1576
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Ravens, the Eagles, the Cowboys,

1577
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: across the board. Yes, he would make a difference on

1578
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: every one. I think the one that he would put

1579
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: potentially like over the top to me would feel like

1580
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: Dallas like if he was on Dallas with Ceedee Lamb,

1581
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: they got Ranny Cooks, Like now all of a sudden,

1582
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: that would be now, maybe Dallas elevates to a Philly

1583
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: type situation where they have that type of firepower.

1584
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 4: To go head to head with Philly.

1585
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't like if you put Hopkins on the Ravens,

1586
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: that to me doesn't change there doesn't change it that much.

1587
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: We talked about it yesterday with the Ravens, like, I

1588
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: still need to see the quarterback be able to get

1589
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: wide receivers the football. You can draft all these guys,

1590
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: sign all these guys, if you still have a quarterback

1591
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: that struggles to get the football to him, it doesn't matter. Yeah.

1592
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: So I don't think he changed I don't think it

1593
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: changes the trajectory of the Ravens. The Chargers would help.

1594
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean he helps everybody. He'd help everybody.

1595
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 3: Think the Chargers might be the number one team that

1596
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 3: could benefit.

1597
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: Do you think DeAndre Hopkins with the Chargers puts them

1598
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: in a place where they would be a favorite over

1599
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City.

1600
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: I think they can make a run at it.

1601
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think there's kind of because.

1602
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 3: Kansas City defensively, I don't.

1603
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 4: Still have Mahomes.

1604
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: Of course, it's just a cheek and as long as

1605
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 3: you have those guys together, and I understand that well.

1606
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 3: And frankly, the Chargers could sign every big time player

1607
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: they want. They could still tell the coaching staff, yeah,

1608
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: they show me as You're right.

1609
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 4: They could find a way to botch that.

1610
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: I and the Kansas City he just would make them

1611
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: exponentially better. The only one of these that to me,

1612
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: would change the trajectory of what I think of the

1613
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: team would be Dallas. I think if he went to Dallas,

1614
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you'd say, Okay, that's a

1615
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: team that can go head to head with Philly and San.

1616
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 3: Francisco absolutely in the NFC.

1617
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll see how it goes. He's not playing there, no, no, And.

1618
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what is going on. I don't know

1619
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 3: what's taking so long. Sure, I mean money Arizona knows

1620
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: they're not going to get what they want because he

1621
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: wants out.

1622
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, And you don't blame him for wanting

1623
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: out at this point. You know, he wants to play

1624
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: meaningful football and he's not going to do it in Arizona.

1625
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 3: Over the next two.

1626
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: Years and quite frankly, they would be smart to get

1627
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: they'd be smart to get rid of anything that gives

1628
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: them a chance to have success. I mean if they

1629
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: they theoretically can pick first and second next year. Yeah, like,

1630
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: do everything in your power to be able to do that.

1631
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: Whether you like Kyler or not, that's the most that

1632
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: you could do to make yourself a super Bowl type

1633
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: of team exactly. So we'll see if they actually do that.

1634
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: Zadaria Smith hit the podium today.

1635
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: We'll have that for you.

1636
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:40,679
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Speaker 4: Darius Smith.

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Speaker 15: Everybody doing good. I like that suit man, Yeah, I

1646
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 15: like it.

1647
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 8: I like it. Previous is it?

1648
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 5: There was your reaction when you got the news you're

1649
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 5: getting traded to Cleveland.

1650
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 15: I was excited, you know, I get a chance to

1651
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 15: play in the fourth to three system, and that's something

1652
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 15: that I never played in while I was in the league.

1653
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 15: So I was happy, man, and knowing that I get

1654
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 15: a chance to go be with Davin Thomason again and

1655
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 15: get a chance to be with Myles Man.

1656
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 8: It's a great feeling you specially.

1657
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 7: A campaign outside, but you're big enough to play in Yes, sir.

1658
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 7: Do you think it's going to be a natural transition

1659
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 7: for you some you've been looking forward to.

1660
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, it'll be natural because I played it in college,

1661
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 15: and you know, I played it in junior college and

1662
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 15: my first year of high school. That was my first

1663
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 15: time playing football. I was a four to three year

1664
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 15: so I'm used to it. But it's it's been eight years,

1665
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 15: so trying to learn the new techniques and get back

1666
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 15: to what I used to do.

1667
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 8: Man yup hand in the dirt.

1668
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, scit is uh for.

1669
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 9: Your her really looking forward to I know he is

1670
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 9: present here today, but why do you talk to Miles Scarit?

1671
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1672
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 11: And how much are you looking forward to plaiting on.

1673
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 7: The same line?

1674
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 8: Ah, I can't wait.

1675
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 15: I did get a chance to talk to him once

1676
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 15: I did get the news. Uh, I think they NFL

1677
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 15: posted in and he sent me a text message telling

1678
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 15: me that he can't wait to uh get going and

1679
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 15: hopefully we could be the best duo in the league.

1680
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 15: And I was telling him, man, like the D line,

1681
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 15: we gotta come up with a name for the room.

1682
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 15: So he was like, alright, i'm'a get some shirts. We

1683
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 15: gonna make it big. So that chemistry already, I can

1684
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 15: tell it's gonna be great this year.

1685
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 9: Y s going off that during your time with the Pattors,

1686
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 9: you and Christy Smith.

1687
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 15: How yeah, I'm doing your CHS comic.

1688
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, tell you?

1689
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 9: How do you explicially your files? Scart adn't his personality wise?

1690
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 9: I mean, uh I scared?

1691
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I feel like once you

1692
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 15: get here, I'll be able to get a feel for him.

1693
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 15: You know, they say he don't talk much, kind of

1694
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 15: shy a little bit, but we're gonna get them to

1695
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 15: open up.

1696
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 8: Man, We're gonna have a good time. I'm here for sure. No,

1697
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 8: we don't. We don't, ye, sir.

1698
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 9: You know in some ways you know that she's just

1699
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 9: kind of, you know, demand here or do you come.

1700
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 8: In and feeling like, you know what, I don't even

1701
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 8: think about that.

1702
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 15: I just played my role as a player, and when

1703
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 15: you going to a team, different team, you know you

1704
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 15: can't focus on that stuff. You know, you gotta be

1705
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 15: all about the team and helping the team win.

1706
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 10: What you're gonna be like going against the Ravens now

1707
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 10: twice a year all the time you've.

1708
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 15: Been Man, it's gonna be fun. I know a small

1709
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 15: situation happened last year where I was supposed to go

1710
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 15: back but it didn't work out. But now that I

1711
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 15: get a chance to face them, man, it's gonna be fun.

1712
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 15: I actually work out with a couple of guys in Orlando,

1713
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 15: Gus Gus the bus. I've been telling them I catch him,

1714
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 15: I'm gonna have to pop one or two times. But

1715
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 15: you know, it's all fun and games, be cause we're

1716
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 15: still friends, man, and just can't wait see John Harbball,

1717
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:02,799
Speaker 15: see Lamar.

1718
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 8: It's gonna be fun this ship.

1719
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 10: What's what's somebody's a secret to containing Lamar?

1720
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 8: Since you everybody got to be in their gap.

1721
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 15: Everybody gotta know their assignment because if he get loose,

1722
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 15: we all know what could happen. So just when that

1723
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 15: time get here, we'll be able to be able to

1724
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 15: prepare the right way and hopefully contain them.

1725
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1726
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 11: Are you glad to be back in the North?

1727
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 7: Is a different kind of footballer you enjoy?

1728
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 15: Uh, sorta kinda Like I was telling you, I've been

1729
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 15: in the three fourth system for the last past eight years.

1730
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 15: So getting a chance to put my hand back in

1731
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 15: the dirt and be a natural four to three in

1732
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 15: it's gonna be big for me, Yes, sir.

1733
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 8: It didn't.

1734
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 15: Baltimore, Baltimore. Uh, I don't know, man. It was something

1735
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 15: to where somebody leaked something that said that I agreed

1736
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 15: to the deal, but I never did, and a lot

1737
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 15: of Baltimore Ravens fans are upset about that. So, like

1738
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 15: when I said, when I get ready to go back,

1739
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 15: it's gonna be pretty fun because a lot of people

1740
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 15: may be booing and a lot of people may be,

1741
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 15: you know, happy for me at the same time. So

1742
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 15: it's all funny games at the end of the day.

1743
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 15: What did you know about Jims Schwartz, Jim schwats great

1744
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 15: DC man. You're talking about the DC. Yeah, man, great DC.

1745
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 15: I got a chance to talk with him when I

1746
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 15: first came in and he was telling me all the

1747
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 15: things that he wanted.

1748
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 3: Me to do.

1749
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 8: And he was like, Man, we just need you to

1750
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 8: get off the ball.

1751
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 12: Man.

1752
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 15: We know that you haven't had that in the last

1753
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 15: past eight years. And if I had the opportunity, I

1754
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 15: probably would have had one hundred sacks by now. But

1755
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 15: I'm just happy to be here, man, happy to be

1756
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 15: with him, happy to be with the coaching staff. Man,

1757
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 15: this is a great, great organization. You can't wait.

1758
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 7: I was just going to ask.

1759
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 9: The last couple of years now double digit sacks and

1760
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 9: three of the last four years coming into this system

1761
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 9: where the goal is to have those guys upfront, get

1762
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 9: to the quarterback, have the sacks spread out, how exciting

1763
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 9: is that for you? How much higher do you think

1764
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 9: you're ceiling can get?

1765
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 8: I like it. I like the question.

1766
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 15: I feel like it'll be great because, like I said,

1767
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 15: when I first started playing football, I was in a

1768
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 15: four to three system and I was always taught to

1769
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 15: just go, you know, go get the quarterback, affect them,

1770
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 15: you know. In this situation being here now, I get

1771
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 15: the opportunity to do that. So I just can't wait.

1772
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 15: I can't wait to get going man, and hopefully I

1773
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 15: have double jit sacks again this year.

1774
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 8: For sure.

1775
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 7: I'm a care pack do you think you can have

1776
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 7: by the defensives kind of been reconstructured, reconstructured, and a

1777
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 7: team that really has.

1778
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 15: High expectations for Uh, I say, bout doing the little

1779
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 15: things team bonding, you know. Uh, we were just talking

1780
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 15: in the D line room today and I was telling

1781
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 15: the guys, let's go out to eat tonight.

1782
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 8: You know.

1783
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 15: Doing little things like that, man to bring guys together

1784
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 15: and closer and learning one another. Uh help us a

1785
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 15: lot as far as in the D line and as

1786
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 15: far as the football team is there.

1787
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 9: But you don't have uh NFL Defensive Player of the

1788
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 9: years absperations.

1789
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 14: I mean, it seems like you really have.

1790
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 8: The talent to be able to Yes, ma'am chieved that? Yeah?

1791
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 7: Is that on your bucket list?

1792
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 8: I feel like it is. But you know, my main

1793
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 8: goal is right now is get a ring. You know.

1794
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 15: That's something that I never had, uh experienced. So that's

1795
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 15: the number one goal is help this team win the

1796
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 15: Super Bowl. Well, first of all, win the North, well

1797
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 15: win the division, sorry, and then go on and play

1798
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 15: in the Super Bowl. But after that, hopefully I can't

1799
01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 15: get a defensive player.

1800
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1801
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 15: I think they was close to saying something last year

1802
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 15: about it. But as we all know, I got hurt,

1803
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 15: but you know, I don't focus on that self. Goals

1804
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 15: is something that that's gonna come once you play part

1805
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 15: of the team, once you do your job, basically to.

1806
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 7: Such a great startlight, how frustrating it wasn't to have

1807
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 7: there's a knee.

1808
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 15: Right tool you down. Yeah, it wasn't frustrated. A lot

1809
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 15: of people didn't know. In my contract, I had it

1810
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 15: the way I had to play every game to get

1811
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 15: my bonus. So certain situation, coach was just telling me

1812
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 15: give it all you can and then we'll just rescue

1813
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 15: from there. So I wasn't as effective as I was

1814
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 15: at the beginning of the season. But I'm all healthy

1815
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 15: now and ready to go. Yes, sir, I think you've

1816
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 15: been on great teams that have won their division.

1817
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 8: Yes, sir. So yeah, that's not the first thing that

1818
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 8: came out of your mind. Yes, sir, Why is that?

1819
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 10: Why is that?

1820
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 15: Because that's where it starts. I feel like, if you

1821
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 15: set goals, it got to start from now. You know,

1822
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 15: if you don't win the division, it's really not a

1823
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 15: possile ability of we're going to the super Bowl. I'm

1824
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 15: not just gonna say it like that. But it happened

1825
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 15: that way, and that's something that we need to focus on.

1826
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 15: A lot of guys don't focus on that. Uh, they

1827
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 15: just talk about the super Bowl, you know. But the

1828
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 15: main goal is to win the division first, be on

1829
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 15: top and hopefully go to the playoffs, get a buy

1830
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 15: and go from there.

1831
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 9: That the thrones are getting the Zagerias that he had that.

1832
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 3: At ten for sure.

1833
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 11: Half.

1834
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just told you earlier. I had a chance

1835
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 8: to rest.

1836
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 15: I couldn't rest last year because every game I think

1837
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 15: I was making like two hundred thousand just to dress out,

1838
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 15: so you would dress out too, right, exactly.

1839
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 8: So now what's different for me?

1840
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 15: I had a chance to rest my need, you know,

1841
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 15: get some rehaf and uh actually training, my training in Orlando,

1842
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 15: and I've been out here working and I haven't felt nothing.

1843
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 8: So I feel perfectly fine. There's the jump when you

1844
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 8: got to Green Bay. Was it just a change of scenery?

1845
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 7: Was it a system?

1846
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 8: What you mean? What you know?

1847
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 7: I mean you look at the production set, production specifically.

1848
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 7: Was there one thing specifically you want you.

1849
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 8: To help that helped that?

1850
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 15: Uh? The bonding of the team, Like I was telling

1851
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 15: you about getting to know one another, This guy may

1852
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 15: be we coult doing this and you can help him,

1853
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 15: you know, teach him something that can basically help his

1854
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 15: game grow. And for me, I had a chance to

1855
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 15: do that with Preston and uh Rashawn Garrett, you know.

1856
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 15: So they always couldn't focus on me. They had to

1857
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 15: focus on them.

1858
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 8: Too, you know.

1859
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 15: And here we have the same thing that guys like Miles,

1860
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 15: and we got a bunch of young guys coming up

1861
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 15: Man and d t now here, So it's gonna be

1862
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 15: hard to just pick one guy, you know what I'm

1863
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 15: saying to go to, because we're gonna leave the other

1864
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 15: two or other three guys open.

1865
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 9: So like being you know here with Dalvin coming here

1866
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 9: at the same time, I went to like playing next

1867
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 9: to him.

1868
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 8: It's fun. You know.

1869
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 15: He actually went to Alabama and I'm actually from Alabama,

1870
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 15: so we got a little chemistry from back home. But

1871
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 15: just all in all, Man, Devin is a great guy,

1872
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 15: like to draw man, He's creative and family man. So

1873
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 15: just being around good people like that also helped me

1874
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 15: become a great guy. So that's one of the main reasons.

1875
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 13: Those benchmarks that you mentioned, you know, when in the division,

1876
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 13: it's that this organization just hasn't done in the.

1877
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 8: Longest Yeah, I heard, Yeah, So I guess, just.

1878
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 6: What can you bring your browsers?

1879
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 13: So what can I guess you bring as far as

1880
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 13: the intangibles go to maybe help them get over that

1881
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 13: hump and and really get the most out of the

1882
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 13: talent that you guys have.

1883
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 15: I feel like the leadership and just keep harpening on it,

1884
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 15: you know, just keep saying and keep saying it, because

1885
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 15: once you do that, it can happen, you know, speaking

1886
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 15: into existence.

1887
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 8: And I'm big on that.

1888
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 15: Like I said, just doing a little things, staying after practice,

1889
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 15: you know, getting some extra reps. You know, before I

1890
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 15: was talking to some of the guys about fixing their

1891
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 15: feet because some can get reached and they'll get cut off,

1892
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 15: you know, and I can tell them, like, look in

1893
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 15: the backfield you can see the near gun and far

1894
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 15: gun sets. Focus on those type of things, you know

1895
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 15: what I'm saying, to help your game. So I feel

1896
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 15: like doing the little things like that will help us

1897
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 15: go a long way. It's football team, we know, even

1898
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 15: we've been here for a.

1899
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 7: Minute, but this is the first practice since Jim Brown

1900
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 7: has past. I just wondered if you had any reflections

1901
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 7: on him as an.

1902
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 15: Assimiler or persus man. Growing up, I got a chance

1903
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 15: to watch him and uh. I also saw the call

1904
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 15: where uh he did with Miles Man and that was special.

1905
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 15: But man, you gotta always respect the OG's in the game,

1906
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 15: and he was one of the greats. You know that.

1907
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 15: I always looked up to a lot of other guys too.

1908
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 15: He's not going anywhere, but like guys like Ray, you know,

1909
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 15: those are great guys that gonna leave a legacy, man,

1910
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 15: And that's something that he did for us here in Cleveland.

1911
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 7: So can you talk about having guys like Miles and

1912
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 7: Obo damp position? I know you've had some success rushing

1913
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 7: from the inside. Yeah, do you enjoy doing that? Is

1914
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 7: that something you can see yourself doing here too?

1915
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 15: You know what, I don't wanna answer that question cause

1916
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 15: I may give something off to the other teams, But nah, man,

1917
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 15: I like playing every position. You can really put me anywhere.

1918
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 15: You know, I'm versatile. You know, play zero, play three,

1919
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 15: played in, play lineback or something too.

1920
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 8: But you know it's all in all, man, It's gonna

1921
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 8: be a fun. Yeah. I just can't wait.

1922
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 11: Man.

1923
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 8: I answered that the best, Well, why did you want

1924
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 8: to redo your contract.

1925
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 15: Where in Minnesota. Yeah, for one, it wasn't set up right,

1926
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 15: you know, going through Green Bay. You know, my last

1927
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 15: year I had the injury and a lot of teams

1928
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 15: started to say this and that about Z. But it

1929
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 15: wasn't about that. You know, I'm always a team guy.

1930
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 15: You can call any player from any facility that I've

1931
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 15: been in and ask them about who Z really is,

1932
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 15: you know.

1933
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 8: But a lot of people make stories up and it

1934
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 8: just didn't work out.

1935
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 12: You know.

1936
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 15: I hated that, which I could have stayed in been

1937
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 15: a Smith bro with Preston, But you know, I'm just

1938
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Speaker 15: happy to be here now man and get a new

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Speaker 15: fresh start man and continue my career here.

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Speaker 7: So when you're saying it wasn't set up right, but

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Speaker 7: money not, No.

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Speaker 15: It was the guaranteed part. The first year was only guaranteed.

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Speaker 15: So I mean now basically in the same situation. But

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Speaker 15: it's okay now because I can get a chance to

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Speaker 15: go in the free agency next year. Yes, sir, when

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Speaker 15: you come into this.

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Speaker 4: There's some role talent as first, and you don't know

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Speaker 4: the ceiling for some of these guys. How does that

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Speaker 4: make you feel entering a team with that kind of

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Speaker 4: talent and potential.

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Speaker 15: Oh being the older guy. You know, I'm the vet now,

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Speaker 15: so I can get a chance to help those younger guys.

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Speaker 15: You know, i'dn't been around a lot of great leaders

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Speaker 15: like Terrell Suggs, CJ. Moseley, Uh, Eric Weddle, you know,

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Speaker 15: so I know a couple of things that can help

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Speaker 15: us get better. Like he said earlier, every team that

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Speaker 15: I've been on we won the division. So it wasn't

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Speaker 15: for no reason, but just helping them grow as players

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Speaker 15: and just teaching them the game, the little things about

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Speaker 15: playing football.

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Speaker 3: What motivates you most.

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Speaker 8: Just stay tune your career.

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Speaker 15: Where you're at going in a year nine, not having

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Speaker 15: a ring family, you know, gotta take care of family,

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Speaker 15: and just leaving a legacy man, doing what I'm doing

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Speaker 15: for the young guys. Hopefully they can do it when

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Speaker 15: they get a little bit older and tell them like, hey,

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Speaker 15: Z was the guy who helped me.

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Speaker 8: You know, I would love that.

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Speaker 15: But just just leaving my legacy here man, and for

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Speaker 15: my kids, and when they grow up they can be like, oh,

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Speaker 15: used the Darius Smith's son, you know, So little thing

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Speaker 15: like that, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 7: Just watching you and photos and little video clips like.

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Speaker 2: That is the day that you signed here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean fresh start.

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Speaker 9: Describe you know, why are you so happy right here?

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Speaker 15: Because it's the beginning of something special. Yeah, okay, that's

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Speaker 15: a great answer. Cool, cool, appreciate it, thank you. Yeah yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 15: he's great. Yeah, he's great. That on a sound bite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good. That'll give you one.

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, you know, just excited to be here,

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Speaker 2: excited for the opportunity. And and our young guys, heck,

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Speaker 2: our old guys can learn a lot from what that

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Speaker 2: guy has seen.

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Speaker 4: Jim brought this up.

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Speaker 2: We had him on with you know, Thornhill and Tomlinson,

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Speaker 2: an absolutely with Sidarius Smith, like there is there's some

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Speaker 2: guys who've been through the battles and knows what it

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Speaker 2: takes to play at the highest level and win at

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Speaker 2: the highest level. And that's valuable not just for the

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Speaker 2: rookies and second year guys, but our veteran guys who

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Speaker 2: have not seen the success that you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that they had hoped that they would see at this

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Speaker 2: point in their career.

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Speaker 3: So much more to come.

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Speaker 2: You listen to Clevelan Brown's Daily brought you by Bally

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Speaker 2: Just sing this a melancholy note. Here in the home

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Speaker 2: of rock and roll. Tina Katurner, the Queen of rock

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Speaker 2: and roll, has died peacefully today at the age of

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Speaker 2: eighty three, after a long illness in her home in Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: She was living in Switzerland. Yeah, I didn't know that either.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, yeah, but wow. She was a force

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Speaker 4: of nature. Holy hell, wasn't she.

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Goodness?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: So really yeah, yep, just here in the last ten

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Speaker 2: minutes being reported throughout rest in peace to a true legend.

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Speaker 2: Certainly we are back tomorrow. The next level is coming

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