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Speaker 1: Laila Roses here as.
Speaker 2: Well, and we got a special guest.
Speaker 1: In the building.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed you know her from.
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Atlanta, Ladies and Gentlemen, Drusidora.
Speaker 3: Welcome SNA Morning, y'all. I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 4: I actually have been in New York for a couple
Speaker 4: of days, so the city's been showing me love.
Speaker 3: I'm not tired, I'm awake. I'm here with y'all.
Speaker 1: How's your energy?
Speaker 3: How's my energy is better?
Speaker 4: You know, I've been going through a lot, but I
Speaker 4: feel like where y'all have seen me for the past
Speaker 4: what two years, I'm definitely in a more heeled place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when did you get to that place?
Speaker 4: Honestly, honestly, working on my album was like my therapy.
Speaker 4: So I think that just being able to get all
Speaker 4: of those emotions out and just do something productive and
Speaker 4: put it all on paper and leave it there, that
Speaker 4: was a big part of, you know, my healing journey for.
Speaker 2: Breaking down for people that don't know what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: because lot of people might not watch the Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was on Housewives Atlanta. You got a divorce of separation.
Speaker 4: It's not official yet, separation going through through the bust,
Speaker 4: which is a weird.
Speaker 2: Separation because he lives in the basement. Yes, and you
Speaker 2: live upstairs. Yes, and you're not allowed downstairs.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: And he's been there first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's not allowed to come upstairs unless like
Speaker 4: grandom access. It's just like, I've never heard of this,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know anybody else that I can say,
Speaker 4: how did you deal with this? You know, I've never
Speaker 4: heard of this, and I did not know that would
Speaker 4: ever be something the judge would rule on. So it
Speaker 4: makes it extra complicated. It's already hard enough. Divorce is
Speaker 4: already tough enough, but you know, to run into each
Speaker 4: other in the driveway or you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like it's a lot you have no idea. Well, how
Speaker 4: did it even come to that point that who said
Speaker 4: that this how it should be? Like, because we I've
Speaker 4: never heard of that. Did he say I want to
Speaker 4: live and I want to remain in the house, and like,
Speaker 4: how did that happen? He was basically like, I'm not
Speaker 4: leaving the kid's attorneys were like, yeah, he's not going
Speaker 4: to leave the premises, and so have you seen that
Speaker 4: movie War of.
Speaker 3: The World, Thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's like that in real life, you know,
Speaker 4: where it's it's the asset in the marriage.
Speaker 3: And so what I've been learning through this.
Speaker 4: Process is like, you know, it's love and it's like
Speaker 4: pure bliss, and we built this beautiful family and we're
Speaker 4: building legacy, and then all of a sudden we're going
Speaker 4: through a divorce and now it's all business.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, a.
Speaker 4: Negotiation of so the asset being the house, it's a
Speaker 4: big deal, you know, and so I would love to
Speaker 4: just split everything like a fifty to fifty, keep it
Speaker 4: simple and we can be done. But he's like, I
Speaker 4: want everything. I want the house, I want forty percent
Speaker 4: of your business that I've had since two thousand and
Speaker 4: five's my company, you know, and he's coming for that.
Speaker 3: And it's it's just how.
Speaker 1: Did y'all get there? What started the separation?
Speaker 2: People assumed it was cheating, people assumed it was so
Speaker 2: many different things.
Speaker 1: How did y'all get there? Let's go, girl, I just show.
Speaker 3: House when.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so you know everything, so you watched it
Speaker 4: like people, right, So a lot. So we lived in
Speaker 4: Chicago and from Chicago originally born to raise and we
Speaker 4: lived there for some time.
Speaker 3: And it was a lot of women. You know, it
Speaker 3: was a lot of.
Speaker 4: Women, you know, the whole finding things in your phone
Speaker 4: or I got family, like it's family. Everybody knows we
Speaker 4: live here. People seeing you out, sir at dinner with women.
Speaker 4: So it was a lot of that.
Speaker 3: I did at one.
Speaker 5: Point, excuse me, why can't you let him and his
Speaker 5: women be wow.
Speaker 3: Questions?
Speaker 6: You know what A first I thought it was because
Speaker 6: he just don't watch the show. And I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 6: he's trying to get her. Aren't you from South Carolina?
Speaker 3: Cousins?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: He I think from oh yeah, going Oh, but you know,
Speaker 4: he got a lot of cousins, you remember, because of
Speaker 4: who on the show?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, don't you don't know?
Speaker 1: Oh you did see that was the.
Speaker 2: Chicago you found up. But then you moved to Atlanta
Speaker 2: and gave them.
Speaker 4: I did you know, because let me tell you. So,
Speaker 4: my parents were married for sixty years till my dad
Speaker 4: passed away. So I grew up in a household you
Speaker 4: know where I saw people choose each other every day
Speaker 4: fight make up.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: That was just what I saw. So that's what I
Speaker 4: wanted for myself. So when I got married, it was like,
Speaker 4: this is what we go through. We're going to talk
Speaker 4: about it, communicate and move forward. So yes, I did
Speaker 4: forgive him. We moved to Atlanta and he left and
Speaker 4: went to Tampa for three days.
Speaker 3: Everyone saw that on national TV.
Speaker 4: But it was it was embarrassing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like you leave your family and you don't tell us
Speaker 4: where you went. And it was more so because it
Speaker 4: was public, you know, and and humiliation and embarrassment.
Speaker 3: And I think that was tough, was it for you?
Speaker 3: I mean, it was that. And it was just a.
Speaker 4: Continuous, you know, continuous behavior of like dealing with other
Speaker 4: women and then coming on the show, and then there
Speaker 4: was women saying, oh they were pregnant. It was a
Speaker 4: particular woman who reached out and said she was pregnant
Speaker 4: with his baby, and that was a big That was
Speaker 4: a big thing. That was probably one of the biggest straws.
Speaker 4: And then it was the disrespect of my mom, you know,
Speaker 4: of my family, the disrespect of my son, Jojo, my
Speaker 4: fourteen year old. So it was just very layered, and
Speaker 4: finally he moved out of the bedroom. So we separated.
Speaker 4: And we were separated at the time, so it was
Speaker 4: a huge separation. We were trying to repair things, but
Speaker 4: ultimately it just wasn't able.
Speaker 3: To be repaired.
Speaker 1: I thought you cheated.
Speaker 3: Well that's that's what he says.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It was almost like, oh, she's hanging out and having fun. Oh,
Speaker 4: this is my moment, you know, and now it flipped
Speaker 4: to like a victim mentality when that really wasn't what
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 1: It was a girl.
Speaker 3: Oh well they thought that before this month.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but I heard you talk about it on
Speaker 6: Carlos King and that was my first time actually hearing
Speaker 6: you explain.
Speaker 3: It the way you did.
Speaker 6: So he had alleged that you were dating a woman
Speaker 6: at the time and that's who you were cheating, and
Speaker 6: you said at the time you were going through so
Speaker 6: much with him that you would have taken attention from
Speaker 6: a Carborard box that please talk about.
Speaker 3: What is the matter with you, girl? Lloyd? Just the
Speaker 3: comic relief of the situation that you need.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't say there
Speaker 4: was eating you know, we we were hanging out that's
Speaker 4: that's still my girl to this day.
Speaker 3: Like we're still friends. But I think it was extra
Speaker 3: sauce placed on it.
Speaker 4: I will say, Okay, flirting, yeah, like I'll be honest
Speaker 4: about that, a little nibbled on some food we went
Speaker 4: to dinner. We was eating at the dinner table. But
Speaker 4: all of the extra stuff. I mean, you have to
Speaker 4: really watch the show and know.
Speaker 3: Who Ralph is.
Speaker 4: He is very much a narcissist and that's who I married,
Speaker 4: That's who I chose to love. But at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, what happened happened. People have actually witnessed it.
Speaker 4: The disrespect so to say, Okay, I'm hanging with this
Speaker 4: woman and now it's a relationship that just came out
Speaker 4: of nowhere. There was never any evidence, where's a receipt. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, people can say things, doesn't make it true.
Speaker 4: People say things about you. You know, is everything true?
Speaker 3: Not everything everything?
Speaker 5: But listen, how do you balance healing in private when
Speaker 5: your pain is being monetized on reality TV?
Speaker 4: Honestly, you know, that time that we did not come
Speaker 4: right back on the show, I was actually grateful because
Speaker 4: that was the time I took just to self, Like
Speaker 4: I spent my time alone. You know, I just completely
Speaker 4: shut down and I did a lot of praying, and
Speaker 4: like I said, honestly, people may not have understood why
Speaker 4: I said Dennis was my angel on Earth.
Speaker 3: But really it was.
Speaker 4: I was very grateful because it was a blessing at
Speaker 4: that time to have somewhere to go a lot of
Speaker 4: times like I didn't want to wake up out and
Speaker 4: get out the bed. It's like you just don't feel productive,
Speaker 4: like overwhelmed. Depression is real. So it was just knowing
Speaker 4: that I have people supporting me, believing in me, and
Speaker 4: a rooting for me, and I had to.
Speaker 3: Show up, you know, for that.
Speaker 4: And when I got to the studios like okay, I
Speaker 4: made it, you know, and then being able to compile
Speaker 4: all this this body of work and have a productive outlet,
Speaker 4: like I said, it was exactly what I needed to
Speaker 4: get me to the other side where I.
Speaker 6: Am now looking back, because your project is here, the
Speaker 6: music is here. But looking back on it, you brought
Speaker 6: up the Dennist Angel on Earth comment and that the
Speaker 6: people had conversations about that for a while.
Speaker 3: I know, it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy, Grimy, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You look shady.
Speaker 2: When when it first came out because it came out
Speaker 2: that you were working with Porsches porschess Yes, what out.
Speaker 3: A didentist is out here? Yes, the shock for me,
Speaker 3: it's the conversation.
Speaker 2: Now this is and it wass soon. You did it
Speaker 2: behind Porsches back, without having without talking.
Speaker 3: But that wasn't it happened like that. See there we go.
Speaker 3: See we gotta talk about it. That's not how it happened.
Speaker 4: So actually, you know this is during the time Porsche
Speaker 4: was living her African princess life.
Speaker 3: Saw what she was. She was in Nigeria.
Speaker 4: She wasn't checking for her girls. You know, I was
Speaker 4: calling her. So on the record, I called Porscha a
Speaker 4: bunch of times. Work with Dennis, Yes, Like why wouldn't
Speaker 4: I Dennis had been reaching out for years, like come
Speaker 4: be an ambassador for Naya.
Speaker 3: Let's you know.
Speaker 4: It was like no, no, no, But because of what
Speaker 4: I was going through, this is my selfish season, okay.
Speaker 4: And the music was good because I was like Dennis
Speaker 4: I talks music like I was confused like everybody else,
Speaker 4: right I was, But when he sent my team the music,
Speaker 4: it was like this is really good, Like I.
Speaker 3: Need to do this music. That's how it felt for me.
Speaker 4: So when I was calling her and I was texting her,
Speaker 4: I have the receipts, show them a reunion. I was like, girl,
Speaker 4: I need to talk to you like it's really really important.
Speaker 3: Bunch of techs. She wanted responding to you, girl, like
Speaker 3: at all crickets.
Speaker 4: So when she did come back and we did talk,
Speaker 4: we were in the studio Dennis. We'll be talking to
Speaker 4: her and she's like, send me some songs. She's like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is my favorite song. This is my favorite song.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, Porsche. He told me he had
Speaker 4: a conversation, so she's cool. We talked two weeks before
Speaker 4: we started filming and she was like, yes, girl, I
Speaker 4: know we're going through our divorces, need to get together.
Speaker 3: I love the music.
Speaker 4: I was like okay, because you know, I wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure like we're all family. It's all yes, girl,
Speaker 4: I know, like it's all good. Let's hang out a
Speaker 4: week before we film. Oh sorry, didn't come to your
Speaker 4: birthday party, girl, but let's turn up tonight. You, me
Speaker 4: and Yandy, let's go out for that was the energy.
Speaker 4: So we go to Shamia's birthday party. That's why I
Speaker 4: was so libergasted.
Speaker 1: He said it was a different story.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 1: So when the cameras came on.
Speaker 3: A different it was like a light switch.
Speaker 4: It was like, why didn't Dennis tell her that he
Speaker 4: did it? Because she knew and she never denied it.
Speaker 4: But if you notice, when we were at Shamia's party,
Speaker 4: it was like, I'm mad at you because you're working
Speaker 4: with Dennis. Then it switched to well, you're filming with Dennis,
Speaker 4: and then it was like a go naked thing. So
Speaker 4: I was not clear on why she was upset and
Speaker 4: what the real beef was. But as you've seen the season,
Speaker 4: I just see, you know, the fans are smart, like
Speaker 4: shout out to the fans because they're seeing like, no,
Speaker 4: you know, we kind of catching her up in some
Speaker 4: lives here, that's not actually how it happened. And it's
Speaker 4: seeming more like deflection because you can't talk about a
Speaker 4: certain person. So she chose to talk about me, you know,
Speaker 4: because she couldn't, and she said that she couldn't talk.
Speaker 1: She did it for the cameras.
Speaker 4: You need story, but I mean you need to have
Speaker 4: things going on in your personal life, Like why is
Speaker 4: everything about what.
Speaker 3: I got going on?
Speaker 5: I don't understand on this It's hard to watch sometimes
Speaker 5: because you don't know if it's real shade, if it's
Speaker 5: real smoke, or if it's just a storyline.
Speaker 3: No, everything I do is real.
Speaker 4: I came on the show and an achilles rupture boot
Speaker 4: Like I came on the show limping, like, that's not
Speaker 4: how I want to come on. I want to come
Speaker 4: in with my like a little bittons, you know, and
Speaker 4: be fabulous. And I wanted to show black love and
Speaker 4: marriage and all the beauty and all that that's I
Speaker 4: didn't want to show this. So everything that I've shown
Speaker 4: has just been my real life. I've not ever produced
Speaker 4: anything or tried to give a storyline because like I've
Speaker 4: been working since I was eight years old.
Speaker 3: I don't need to put on for cameras. That's not me.
Speaker 4: Some people may like, that's what some people may do.
Speaker 4: And I feel like in this situation, instead of Porsche
Speaker 4: opening up about like her real feelings without talking about
Speaker 4: that particular person, she didn't need to deflect it and
Speaker 4: make me her punging back. I think that was probably
Speaker 4: the most hurtful part, because like, I'm going through a
Speaker 4: lot too.
Speaker 2: The Juy have in a real conversation because it made
Speaker 2: you look crazy to the public at first when she
Speaker 2: got on there and says, you're supposed to be my friend,
Speaker 2: but you work on my ex and I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Did you have a conversation? After that?
Speaker 3: We did, We had to sit down. It didn't go
Speaker 3: very well. Which one are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Because the NATA well to sit down when she walked
Speaker 4: out when we were drinking tea, it escalated, So it
Speaker 4: wasn't really like true resolve. But yeah, no, it's it's
Speaker 4: like Porscha is not the person as you have seen
Speaker 4: that will communicate. You know, she's going to get up
Speaker 4: and walk away. She's going to cover with all of
Speaker 4: this happiness like she got it and that's not real.
Speaker 4: And I just I think everyone was anticipating her to
Speaker 4: come back this season and was excited, but ultimately she
Speaker 4: couldn't deliver on the story that we thought we were getting,
Speaker 4: you know, we thought we were getting Miscawadia and she
Speaker 4: couldn't bring that.
Speaker 5: Oh so you don't think PA's been delivering this season?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just what I feel, you know, that's
Speaker 4: my personal opinion is that this wasn't a real beef.
Speaker 3: So then what are we talking about. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: something real, you get.
Speaker 4: You know, two women together who are strong, who are
Speaker 4: bosses in their own right, have a conversation. We're not
Speaker 4: going to agree on everything, but we don't need to
Speaker 4: make this the whole thing. We're talking about for the
Speaker 4: whole season, me and Dennis the whole season.
Speaker 5: That That's why, in a lot of ways, I hate
Speaker 5: reality because they will monetize your trauma for pain, like
Speaker 5: what you might be going through with your divorce or
Speaker 5: what emoture might be going through. It's just like damn.
Speaker 5: And then if they can't get that, they just want
Speaker 5: to pitch y'all against each other.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: What's the point of doing?
Speaker 4: That's how I feel like we're both going through a divorce.
Speaker 4: We could be talking about that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It really comes.
Speaker 4: Everything doesn't have to be like a moment. And I
Speaker 4: think you know, you see some girls that come on
Speaker 4: the show and it's just like I need a moment,
Speaker 4: let me just say something to go viral or whatever,
Speaker 4: and it's like, no, just be yourself. And I think
Speaker 4: that's also how I've been able to be on now
Speaker 4: for four seasons and that's just what I've learned because
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of cash shakeups. Like I don't
Speaker 4: even know how I'm still here because it's been people
Speaker 4: that are that we're here, been here for a long
Speaker 4: time in or no longer here. But what I've learned
Speaker 4: from the ogs that have poured into me is just
Speaker 4: be yourself, you know, and the story will tell itself.
Speaker 1: So I just want tother question. So you're not with
Speaker 1: her go naked hairline?
Speaker 3: I literally was about to ask, so that's not go
Speaker 3: naked hair this right now? Yes? No, this looks good.
Speaker 2: The hair that.
Speaker 4: I was wearing in the sit down where you saw
Speaker 4: the bangs, that that that's I warren in real time
Speaker 4: because when you put it through a one two edit,
Speaker 4: how I made it look it looked great. But in
Speaker 4: person y'all saw it, right, That's how that was go
Speaker 4: naked there?
Speaker 3: So are you an ambassador forked?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no no no no. I have a great vendor.
Speaker 3: She's melted. We're good.
Speaker 5: So you don't like go naked head, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I mean it just didn't work for me. Per se.
Speaker 4: When you go to bleach blonded, it just it did
Speaker 4: something that wasn't right.
Speaker 6: Would you have said that prior to all this dinnist stuff,
Speaker 6: because I thought you.
Speaker 3: Were so it was it was like a good partnership.
Speaker 6: It was in the beginning of the season you said
Speaker 6: you thought you were doing numbers for Go Naked.
Speaker 3: I did do numbers. I did do numbers. That's why.
Speaker 4: Well, I just believe like as black women, we support
Speaker 4: each other. Right, If you're my girl, I'm gonna support you.
Speaker 4: We have a great working relationship. It was fun, you know,
Speaker 4: fun to work with her at that time. And if
Speaker 4: that's your friend, you're gonna hold your friend down. But
Speaker 4: it was just when all of this started to happen,
Speaker 4: it just became corny to me, you know. So I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: now since we're gonna you're gonna drag me, Well, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna speak my truth then, because the truth is like
Speaker 4: I had your back, but if you don't have my back,
Speaker 4: now it's fair game.
Speaker 5: You think the show?
Speaker 3: You said, all right, let me be honest about this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. Now, Okay, I would rather goneck get
Speaker 3: than to wear that hair.
Speaker 5: Game. You think the show would still be interesting if
Speaker 5: if you a portion weren't beefing or like tension just
Speaker 5: part of the paycheck. Now.
Speaker 3: I mean I came on the show.
Speaker 4: Let me make it clear, because I've been an actress
Speaker 4: since I was literally like in.
Speaker 3: Grade school, right.
Speaker 4: So I made a decision because I was like, you
Speaker 4: know what, people know me from this role.
Speaker 3: They may not like me from this role or that
Speaker 3: role or that movie or whatever. I fell going through COVID.
Speaker 4: It was just an opportunity to be more vulnerable and
Speaker 4: let the fans really get to know me and see
Speaker 4: me as a mother and a wife and a friend
Speaker 4: and a sister, like I'm so many other things, and
Speaker 4: I wanted to show that, and so that was the
Speaker 4: reason for me joining the show.
Speaker 3: It wasn't to do anything.
Speaker 4: But just hopefully inspire other people going through what I'm
Speaker 4: dealing with and connecting that way. So it wasn't to
Speaker 4: show what is happening like that was opposite of what
Speaker 4: I wanted to represent on this platform. So I've never
Speaker 4: subscribed to let's do this for a moment, you know,
Speaker 4: let's do this for storyline. I actually feel like when
Speaker 4: we used to watch Housewives and when it was nostalgic
Speaker 4: was because it was a group of women who were
Speaker 4: really friends, and when you saw them fall out, it
Speaker 4: was because I'm fighting you because I love you and
Speaker 4: I know you can be better.
Speaker 3: You can do so much more.
Speaker 4: So that was where the beefs came, and then they
Speaker 4: were able to resolve and move forward. And I feel
Speaker 4: like here sometimes they just want to kill you off,
Speaker 4: you know, they want to.
Speaker 3: Just like go below the bell. It was like dang,
Speaker 3: like do you like me or not?
Speaker 4: Like what are we building or not? And so that's
Speaker 4: what I would like to see the show get back to.
Speaker 4: And I think this season overall it was refreshing. It
Speaker 4: wasn't dark, you know, as some of the fans have said,
Speaker 4: like they felt like the show was going dark.
Speaker 3: So I think we're moving towards a more pot place.
Speaker 1: You know, I agree with that.
Speaker 5: But so so like if you do an interview like
Speaker 5: now you do, you're a little shady. So the gold
Speaker 5: naked hairline a lot of shady, right, you want that
Speaker 5: kind of put fuel on the fire.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean when you have to wake up and
Speaker 4: see people dragging you constantly, and I'm the type of
Speaker 4: person that'll just be like, okay, all right, you know,
Speaker 4: and after so long I think now it's like I
Speaker 4: got to start standing for me because for so long
Speaker 4: I have protected my husband, I have protected my friends.
Speaker 4: You know, people don't really hear from Drew too much.
Speaker 4: I do my job and I go to work. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm the girl that just that just works. I have
Speaker 4: three children, I'm going through a divorce, and whether whether
Speaker 4: I'm on Housewives or a movie or whatever, I'm just working.
Speaker 4: But now it's just gotten disrespectful where it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: you know you want to throw your shade.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm gonna speak my truth, and if it's shady,
Speaker 3: the truth heard sometimes.
Speaker 5: So you're talking about where what Porscha said, you was
Speaker 5: having sex with somebody, sleeping with somebody.
Speaker 3: She said so many things to take it out.
Speaker 1: What the guy's name?
Speaker 3: The past present?
Speaker 4: Oh well we were talking about her. Oh she was
Speaker 4: dating the past present, but they believed it. But present
Speaker 4: you feel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got you you got you, got you got.
Speaker 4: So you don't see it resolved for you and this
Speaker 4: girl at all. You're on Porsche, you don't at all
Speaker 4: because you said you want to see the show get
Speaker 4: back to you know what that was where it used
Speaker 4: to be women were able to have their arguments, go
Speaker 4: through it, talk it out, and then they're cool. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean, you don't ever see you on
Speaker 4: Porsche like, you know what, let's just put all this
Speaker 4: shit behind us because it didn't get crazy. It did,
Speaker 4: but all right, we're women, we both bosses. We like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you don't see that.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: In certain cases it's hard to come back from certain
Speaker 4: things and just putting out falsities. That's like damaging to
Speaker 4: my character, to me as a person. You know, I
Speaker 4: have kids, So I just feel like the line has
Speaker 4: been crossed one too many times. However, I feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, if there's an opportunity to have a real
Speaker 4: conversation and it may not happen on camera, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean off camera.
Speaker 4: I'm really big on like resolution, I'm really big on
Speaker 4: gaining understanding and like moving forward. So if it is
Speaker 4: an opportunity that presents itself, I would be open to that.
Speaker 4: But it hasn't happened, and it's it's a year now.
Speaker 2: You know, how do you do with the mental because
Speaker 2: you know, they attack you a lot, right, they attack Uh,
Speaker 2: they come for you.
Speaker 6: That the Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan thing with him being
Speaker 6: your cousin, Is he your cousin or not?
Speaker 3: That was that was clearly a joke.
Speaker 4: I'm like, my maiden is Drew Jordan, but I'm from
Speaker 4: Chicago and everybody in Chicago wanted.
Speaker 3: To be related to Michael Jordan, so we actually had
Speaker 3: the last name.
Speaker 4: Jordan's were like, oh yeah, that's like the whole time,
Speaker 4: Like my brother in law's Craig Hodges in real life.
Speaker 4: So go into the games is like, where is your
Speaker 4: cousin at right?
Speaker 3: Exactly leg because it's.
Speaker 6: That I feel like they come for your outfits, they
Speaker 6: be trying to comfort, they come for everything, and so.
Speaker 4: I'm just supposed to take it like it's only so
Speaker 4: much a person can take where it's like, hold on, look,
Speaker 4: I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Now when I start firing,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, Drew, Oh she did some shade.
Speaker 3: Oh there, so me, And.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, this is who I am, and this
Speaker 4: is what happens when you poke the bear over and
Speaker 4: over and over again. But no, like, my mom is
Speaker 4: on a Facebook group the Michael Jordan Family Tree, and it's.
Speaker 3: Thousands of people in that chat. She's on their first
Speaker 3: since our little girl, trying to connect it. I was like,
Speaker 3: I want a cousin that. I think that the.
Speaker 4: Nieces can relate it to my friend and Don my
Speaker 4: mam will want to be related. We all want to
Speaker 4: So it was clearly a joke.
Speaker 6: Then Joe created so many deep dives of trying to
Speaker 6: figure out your.
Speaker 3: Faily, right.
Speaker 5: I want to ask some questions about Judrew you been
Speaker 5: you have you know, you've been in this game since
Speaker 5: you were a kid. How do you think Hollywood's perception
Speaker 5: of you has changed? And how is your own perception
Speaker 5: of yourself changed? Oh? Good?
Speaker 4: Well, you know I feel like on the side of
Speaker 4: like the theatrical, you know, TV and film, I'm proud
Speaker 4: of what I've been able to accomplish, you know, in
Speaker 4: my career. Sometimes I don't reflect enough and like, wow,
Speaker 4: you know, I've been able to work with some amazing
Speaker 4: actors and some amazing projects and tell some amazing stories.
Speaker 4: But the Game, it's like, that's one project that I
Speaker 4: just feel like the public perceives me in that way
Speaker 4: and I can't shake it.
Speaker 3: And it's like what decade is in a decade?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still see the comments to this day,
Speaker 4: which is saying, Okay, this was obviously something really big
Speaker 4: and a part of the culture.
Speaker 3: But I did see a hashtag.
Speaker 4: Where it was like hashtag canceled the Juice Door hate,
Speaker 4: and I just want to say, can we.
Speaker 3: Do that please?
Speaker 4: Like, at the end of the day, this has gone
Speaker 4: on too long. Drwin lied to Juice of Door, Like
Speaker 4: do we not all watch the same show? You feel
Speaker 4: like they hit carried from there almost definitely. Like I
Speaker 4: see the comments, I'm like wow, And I've met people
Speaker 4: that's like, Ooh, I'm mad at you cause you broke
Speaker 4: up med school and I'm like, you know, Tia, was Mary,
Speaker 4: you know Booch, you like as a whole family. But
Speaker 4: people were very invested in the show. And I just
Speaker 4: think that's a perception people have of me, you know,
Speaker 4: despite all the various roles I've played, which is why
Speaker 4: I did join the show to try to change that narrative.
Speaker 4: And I think for myself, yes, perception of self is
Speaker 4: I have so many things I want to do. I
Speaker 4: want to do Broadway, I want to direct, I produced
Speaker 4: my first film, and continue to open the door for
Speaker 4: other young talent coming up. And so that's where I'm
Speaker 4: moving into of my contribution stage in life and wanting
Speaker 4: to really see others win as well in this business.
Speaker 4: I think the thing with the game was right. Everybody
Speaker 4: else had fictional names, but you really went on there
Speaker 4: is Drew Sodora like you. Why was that shout out
Speaker 4: Tomorrow Rocky Hill shout out? I'm oh nice, I love
Speaker 4: that woman, you know. Actually, So the story behind that
Speaker 4: is I booked Girlfriends. I did an episode of Girlfriends,
Speaker 4: and when I went on set, she remembered meeting me.
Speaker 4: Come into my home because my sister, Allison is my
Speaker 4: my manager since I was like eight years old, and
Speaker 4: so she came to the house to meet my sister.
Speaker 4: My sister was a writer on Amen Rock Martin worked
Speaker 4: from Morris Agency. Yeah, like like og Wright, And so
Speaker 4: she came to my sister's house to see if she
Speaker 4: would share her rolodecks because she was moving to Los
Speaker 4: Angeles to become a producer. And she's like, Drew, when
Speaker 4: you were eight, you were running around the house talking
Speaker 4: about I'm going to be an actress and a sayinger,
Speaker 4: and she's like, and you really like stuck with it.
Speaker 4: And so for that reason, let's talk about some bigger things.
Speaker 4: So she wrote me in the show the game. So
Speaker 4: that's how it came to be, And it was really
Speaker 4: like an honor because I'm like, you got to be
Speaker 4: like a list right to play yourself. So to have
Speaker 4: the opportunity, I was like, Wow, I want to showcase
Speaker 4: my music. I think that was one of the first
Speaker 4: times that people to notice to me as an actual
Speaker 4: musical artist.
Speaker 5: Luthamar let me, do you ever feel like people will
Speaker 5: underestimate your arrange because they know you more from Real
Speaker 5: Housewives Now than like your acting career?
Speaker 6: Are a music corect even on the show that was
Speaker 6: then that was a narrative on the show when you
Speaker 6: first came on the show, they were really playing with
Speaker 6: your IMDb.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I think that you get placed in a box,
Speaker 4: just even just let's say African Americans and the arts
Speaker 4: as a whole, we get placed in boxes really easily
Speaker 4: stereotyped that exists, and for me joining the show wanting
Speaker 4: to show in my real life now, it kind of
Speaker 4: took away from my actual skill, my passion, which is
Speaker 4: you know, music and acting. So for me it was
Speaker 4: important to balance it, which is why you know, on
Speaker 4: off season I go to la and really, you know,
Speaker 4: you have to get in people's faces and remind them,
Speaker 4: like here, I am continuing in my acting classes just
Speaker 4: to keep showing myself approved because it's always changing. It's
Speaker 4: extremely competitive, and I think the industry has changed a
Speaker 4: lot where it used to be and not in all cases,
Speaker 4: but it is this now and it exists.
Speaker 3: They look at numbers two, so you might be.
Speaker 4: I've had producers directors say you were the better actress,
Speaker 4: but this person had more followers no than you. And
Speaker 4: so it's a balance now of talent as well as
Speaker 4: marketing yourself and being more appealing to buyers.
Speaker 6: Well you got I did it to me. Your music
Speaker 6: is out and I watched you said that your music
Speaker 6: was like you're healing when you were going through the
Speaker 6: divorce because you were in such a dark place. What
Speaker 6: song on your album was like when you hear it, now,
Speaker 6: get tearful, It takes you there, it's your favorite.
Speaker 3: It's two definitely I did it to me and love
Speaker 3: for a minute with Sierra. Shout out to Sierra Gates.
Speaker 3: She came and get laid like a eight bar a
Speaker 3: little situation. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Sierra.
Speaker 4: Speaking, she was rapping and that's a lot of people
Speaker 4: don't know she came in. But it's a very emotional record.
Speaker 4: And that was the record that actually Dennis and I
Speaker 4: were in the studio and it was like really emotional.
Speaker 4: He was over there crying about Portia and I was
Speaker 4: in there having my moment. But it is it's an
Speaker 4: emotional record. But I did it to me as very
Speaker 4: representative of the project because it's about taking accountability. And
Speaker 4: that's why I love that record because I could sit
Speaker 4: here and share, you know, with you guys all the
Speaker 4: things that my ex did right that weren't right. But
Speaker 4: it gets tiring after a while to keep blaming everything
Speaker 4: on the other person. So for me, it's like, no,
Speaker 4: I played a part. You know, there were things I
Speaker 4: could have done better if I'm being honest, And so
Speaker 4: that's what the song is saying, like look in the mirror.
Speaker 4: It's not easy to do, you know, but you gotta
Speaker 4: sometimes look at yourself and say, Okay, yeah I made
Speaker 4: a mistake here.
Speaker 3: There and I could have been better, and then grow
Speaker 3: from that. What do you let him know that I
Speaker 3: have Actually I have.
Speaker 4: We have had conversations, you know, before we go to
Speaker 4: court because when you go to court, that's when everything
Speaker 4: blows back up. But we've had conversations where we have stated,
Speaker 4: you know, we understand our differences now and I can say, well,
Speaker 4: I could have done this better, and he has said it,
Speaker 4: you know, and apologize in some areas, and yeah, like
Speaker 4: we're humans and just being more gentle with ourselves and
Speaker 4: just forgiving each other doesn't erase everything and every pain
Speaker 4: that we cause. But yeah, we can be honest and say,
Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3: I can say that now.
Speaker 2: You've been in the business for since a child, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the most cut throat part?
Speaker 1: Is it Hollywood? Is it Reality TV? Or the music?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: That's a hard one, oh man.
Speaker 4: I mean I've been able to have a consistent career,
Speaker 4: like with acting, even though joining the reality show to
Speaker 4: what you were saying, Charlotte, and like I've been able
Speaker 4: to now create a space where I did like five
Speaker 4: movies you know, last year, and I'm very proud of that.
Speaker 4: So I feel like the acting world has allowed me
Speaker 4: back in, you know, So reality or music? I feel
Speaker 4: like music because I'm still trying to knock down this wall,
Speaker 4: but because they look.
Speaker 2: At just taking your talent because you can sing, So
Speaker 2: it's taking that talent away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4: And it's a constant proving which is fine. Like I
Speaker 4: never get to a point where I feel like entitled
Speaker 4: or like I should have certain things. I feel like
Speaker 4: it's important to keep working on your craft and and
Speaker 4: just do the work. Put your head down and do
Speaker 4: the work so that way when the opportunity comes, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm prepared. And that's just really what I've been doing.
Speaker 4: So even though I havn't knocked down that door, I
Speaker 4: feel like having a project out is monumental for me.
Speaker 4: It doing as well as it's doing almost gold and streams,
Speaker 4: which is unbelievable to me, without like a lot a
Speaker 4: lot of marketing. It's just really grassroots word of mouth,
Speaker 4: and now getting out there and performing is next for me.
Speaker 4: So I'm just still on that journey of like really
Speaker 4: making it happen for myself in music question.
Speaker 5: Was the a moment where you felt like reality TV
Speaker 5: saved you? And was there a time where you felt
Speaker 5: like it broke you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would definitely say Because people try to say, Okay,
Speaker 4: reality TV breaks up a lot of marriages and things
Speaker 4: like that, I can't say, I blame my fallout of
Speaker 4: my marriage on it. I feel like what it did
Speaker 4: do was escalated and put a magnifying glass. And it
Speaker 4: also held us accountable because you know, you can fight
Speaker 4: with your spouse and be like, okay, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna say nothing. We're just gonna roll
Speaker 4: past this, or we're gonna put a band aid, or
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about it in private or not talk
Speaker 4: about it at all. But when you're do it on cameras,
Speaker 4: now you gotta talk about it and you have to
Speaker 4: go into counseling and they really hold you accountable. So
Speaker 4: I think for us, it made us more responsible and
Speaker 4: understanding like this probably isn't meant to be. So I
Speaker 4: think it saved me from dedicating my life to twenty
Speaker 4: years in this marriage and then it being over. We
Speaker 4: both have said that we believe that it wouldn't have lasted. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So I think in that regards, it did save me,
Speaker 4: you know, to be able to get to this place
Speaker 4: and I'm my person, because I think my person is
Speaker 4: still out there. You know, I'm not jaded or bitter.
Speaker 4: And then did it break me? Oh yeah, because I
Speaker 4: mean this was my biggest storm, Like depression is real,
Speaker 4: mental health is real. Like you never know your breaking points,
Speaker 4: and I can honestly say, like I reached that, I
Speaker 4: completely lost myself, I lost my voice in this marriage
Speaker 4: and having it play out on national TV, it was overwhelming.
Speaker 4: It was overwhelming because you're living it a few times,
Speaker 4: you're filming it, and then you're watching it. That's like,
Speaker 4: can you imagine that we relived in our head?
Speaker 2: And an embarrassment because usually if there's a problem in
Speaker 2: your marriage is at home, but now you are the
Speaker 2: whole world has an opinion. The whole world is even
Speaker 2: a common and they don't know what's sure or what's not, but.
Speaker 1: They just have an opinion.
Speaker 6: And every time I watch your interviews, You're breaking down
Speaker 6: in a interviews every single time, and I'm wondering, like,
Speaker 6: why put more stuff out there?
Speaker 3: Like Michael B. Jordan, have you spoke to him since
Speaker 3: the Carlos King interview? Oh my god, that was.
Speaker 2: A big.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 6: In Carlos King's interview, Carlos King asked her who's one
Speaker 6: of the most like famous people she's dated, and she
Speaker 6: mentioned that she used to date Michael B. Jordan back
Speaker 6: in the day and that was everywhere. I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 6: she'd just be volunteering the influence.
Speaker 3: Why you asked a question?
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, not even a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm an open book and I just try to always
Speaker 4: remain that way because I think it's important to talk
Speaker 4: about your life and open up.
Speaker 3: I make that choice.
Speaker 4: I made that choice when I join reality TV because
Speaker 4: I feel like it's important for people to see you
Speaker 4: as a human being, you know, and I feel like
Speaker 4: other people can see you as a real person.
Speaker 3: And no, okay, you know, everything's not perfect in my world.
Speaker 4: I may overspeak or say too much or shade or whatever,
Speaker 4: but this is who I am and I'm unapologetically me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was asked the questions, so I answered it,
Speaker 4: and he asked me on a date to attend the
Speaker 4: NAACP Awards.
Speaker 3: It was probably like two thousand and maybe six, when
Speaker 3: he was like still on the soap operas and I
Speaker 3: met his mom and stuff. It was cool.
Speaker 4: We went down a couple of days. No, there was
Speaker 4: no like intimacy on the record, but still he was
Speaker 4: very very sweet guy, very very sweet, and he's been
Speaker 4: super successful. But yeah, that's my truth and it happened.
Speaker 5: You know, this is my last question. With all the
Speaker 5: healing that you've gotten, right and what you know now,
Speaker 5: if you could go back and whisper something to yourself
Speaker 5: during the hardest moment of your marriage, what would you say.
Speaker 3: The hardest part of my marriage.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: It was a couple of things, but for sure Ralph
Speaker 4: moving out of the bedroom. You know that it felt
Speaker 4: like abandonment, you know what I mean. It's different to
Speaker 4: like go sleep separately and just but him making the
Speaker 4: decision to move out when instead of fighting, Because people
Speaker 4: don't stay married forever without waking up every day and
Speaker 4: choosing each other.
Speaker 3: So when the person wakes up and doesn't choose you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, h we appreciate you for joining us. Let's get Andrew,
Speaker 2: let's get into your single. We're gonna play your single
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: What you want to hear? Oh?
Speaker 3: I know right. I was like, let's wake it up,
Speaker 3: let's wake it up.
Speaker 4: It's early, you know, after you go through all the
Speaker 4: heartach campaign, you know you gotta get outside.
Speaker 3: And so good Girl, Bad Bitch is uh my next single.
Speaker 1: Good Girl it's the outside record, it is.
Speaker 4: It's my outside record, and that's what the album is.
Speaker 4: You know, you may cry and fall in love for
Speaker 4: out of love when you're listening to my album, and
Speaker 4: this particular song is one that's empowering and getting outside
Speaker 4: with your girls and just living, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get to it. It's Juice and Dora.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
Speaker 1: in the morning. Breakfast Club.