WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Drew Sidora Talks RHOA, Split From Ralph Pittman, Drama With Porsha Williams, Dennis McKinley + More

0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamage the guy we

0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>are the Breakfast Club.

0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Laila Roses here as.

0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, and we got a special guest.

0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:13.640
<v Speaker 1>In the building.

0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, indeed you know her from.

0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives of Atlanta, Ladies and Gentlemen, Drusidora.

0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Welcome SNA Morning, y'all. I'm good. I'm good.

0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.840
<v Speaker 4>I actually have been in New York for a couple

0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.880
<v Speaker 4>of days, so the city's been showing me love.

0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not tired, I'm awake. I'm here with y'all.

0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:30.880
<v Speaker 1>How's your energy?

0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.600
<v Speaker 3>How's my energy is better?

0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been going through a lot, but I

0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.240
<v Speaker 4>feel like where y'all have seen me for the past

0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.200
<v Speaker 4>what two years, I'm definitely in a more heeled place.

0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when did you get to that place?

0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, honestly, working on my album was like my therapy.

0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.360
<v Speaker 4>So I think that just being able to get all

0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:55.160
<v Speaker 4>of those emotions out and just do something productive and

0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.640
<v Speaker 4>put it all on paper and leave it there, that

0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:02.279
<v Speaker 4>was a big part of, you know, my healing journey for.

0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Breaking down for people that don't know what you're talking about,

0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.120
<v Speaker 2>because lot of people might not watch the Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah,

0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.920
<v Speaker 2>she was on Housewives Atlanta. You got a divorce of separation.

0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.360
<v Speaker 4>It's not official yet, separation going through through the bust,

0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.400
<v Speaker 4>which is a weird.

0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Separation because he lives in the basement. Yes, and you

0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.759
<v Speaker 2>live upstairs. Yes, and you're not allowed downstairs.

0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:19.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And he's been there first.

0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's not allowed to come upstairs unless like

0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.080
<v Speaker 4>grandom access. It's just like, I've never heard of this,

0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know anybody else that I can say,

0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.399
<v Speaker 4>how did you deal with this? You know, I've never

0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.600
<v Speaker 4>heard of this, and I did not know that would

0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.880
<v Speaker 4>ever be something the judge would rule on. So it

0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.679
<v Speaker 4>makes it extra complicated. It's already hard enough. Divorce is

0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.120
<v Speaker 4>already tough enough, but you know, to run into each

0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.800
<v Speaker 4>other in the driveway or you know what I mean,

0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a lot you have no idea. Well, how

0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.240
<v Speaker 4>did it even come to that point that who said

0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.280
<v Speaker 4>that this how it should be? Like, because we I've

0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.480
<v Speaker 4>never heard of that. Did he say I want to

0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.000
<v Speaker 4>live and I want to remain in the house, and like,

0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.040
<v Speaker 4>how did that happen? He was basically like, I'm not

0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.160
<v Speaker 4>leaving the kid's attorneys were like, yeah, he's not going

0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.280
<v Speaker 4>to leave the premises, and so have you seen that

0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.120
<v Speaker 4>movie War of.

0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.680
<v Speaker 3>The World, Thank you?

0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, it's like that in real life, you know,

0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.200
<v Speaker 4>where it's it's the asset in the marriage.

0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.760
<v Speaker 3>And so what I've been learning through this.

0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Process is like, you know, it's love and it's like

0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.320
<v Speaker 4>pure bliss, and we built this beautiful family and we're

0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.040
<v Speaker 4>building legacy, and then all of a sudden we're going

0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.359
<v Speaker 4>through a divorce and now it's all business.

0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:19.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, a.

0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Negotiation of so the asset being the house, it's a

0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.080
<v Speaker 4>big deal, you know, and so I would love to

0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.639
<v Speaker 4>just split everything like a fifty to fifty, keep it

0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.600
<v Speaker 4>simple and we can be done. But he's like, I

0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.640
<v Speaker 4>want everything. I want the house, I want forty percent

0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.320
<v Speaker 4>of your business that I've had since two thousand and

0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.040
<v Speaker 4>five's my company, you know, and he's coming for that.

0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's just how.

0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Did y'all get there? What started the separation?

0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.160
<v Speaker 2>People assumed it was cheating, people assumed it was so

0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:44.760
<v Speaker 2>many different things.

0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.519
<v Speaker 1>How did y'all get there? Let's go, girl, I just show.

0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.880
<v Speaker 3>House when.

0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, so you know everything, so you watched it

0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.600
<v Speaker 4>like people, right, So a lot. So we lived in

0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Chicago and from Chicago originally born to raise and we

0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:10.960
<v Speaker 4>lived there for some time.

0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.560
<v Speaker 3>And it was a lot of women. You know, it

0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:14.160
<v Speaker 3>was a lot of.

0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Women, you know, the whole finding things in your phone

0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.200
<v Speaker 4>or I got family, like it's family. Everybody knows we

0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.560
<v Speaker 4>live here. People seeing you out, sir at dinner with women.

0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:24.560
<v Speaker 4>So it was a lot of that.

0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I did at one.

0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Point, excuse me, why can't you let him and his

0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.760
<v Speaker 5>women be wow.

0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Questions?

0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.560
<v Speaker 6>You know what A first I thought it was because

0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.040
<v Speaker 6>he just don't watch the show. And I'm like, oh, no,

0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.840
<v Speaker 6>he's trying to get her. Aren't you from South Carolina?

0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Cousins?

0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Really?

0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:58.120
<v Speaker 4>He I think from oh yeah, going Oh, but you know,

0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.800
<v Speaker 4>he got a lot of cousins, you remember, because of

0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:00.920
<v Speaker 4>who on the show?

0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, don't you don't know?

0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh you did see that was the.

0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Chicago you found up. But then you moved to Atlanta

0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and gave them.

0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.200
<v Speaker 4>I did you know, because let me tell you. So,

0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.800
<v Speaker 4>my parents were married for sixty years till my dad

0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.039
<v Speaker 4>passed away. So I grew up in a household you

0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.440
<v Speaker 4>know where I saw people choose each other every day

0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.040
<v Speaker 4>fight make up.

0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:21.479
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.279
<v Speaker 4>That was just what I saw. So that's what I

0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.640
<v Speaker 4>wanted for myself. So when I got married, it was like,

0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.120
<v Speaker 4>this is what we go through. We're going to talk

0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.280
<v Speaker 4>about it, communicate and move forward. So yes, I did

0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.000
<v Speaker 4>forgive him. We moved to Atlanta and he left and

0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.480
<v Speaker 4>went to Tampa for three days.

0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Everyone saw that on national TV.

0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.560
<v Speaker 4>But it was it was embarrassing, you know what I mean,

0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.000
<v Speaker 4>like you leave your family and you don't tell us

0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.400
<v Speaker 4>where you went. And it was more so because it

0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.719
<v Speaker 4>was public, you know, and and humiliation and embarrassment.

0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And I think that was tough, was it for you?

0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was that. And it was just a.

0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Continuous, you know, continuous behavior of like dealing with other

0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.200
<v Speaker 4>women and then coming on the show, and then there

0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.400
<v Speaker 4>was women saying, oh they were pregnant. It was a

0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.640
<v Speaker 4>particular woman who reached out and said she was pregnant

0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.400
<v Speaker 4>with his baby, and that was a big That was

0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.240
<v Speaker 4>a big thing. That was probably one of the biggest straws.

0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.880
<v Speaker 4>And then it was the disrespect of my mom, you know,

0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.480
<v Speaker 4>of my family, the disrespect of my son, Jojo, my

0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.600
<v Speaker 4>fourteen year old. So it was just very layered, and

0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.920
<v Speaker 4>finally he moved out of the bedroom. So we separated.

0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.760
<v Speaker 4>And we were separated at the time, so it was

0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.080
<v Speaker 4>a huge separation. We were trying to repair things, but

0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.680
<v Speaker 4>ultimately it just wasn't able.

0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:30.120
<v Speaker 3>To be repaired.

0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought you cheated.

0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Well that's that's what he says.

0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:34.880
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.039
<v Speaker 4>It was almost like, oh, she's hanging out and having fun. Oh,

0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.159
<v Speaker 4>this is my moment, you know, and now it flipped

0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.520
<v Speaker 4>to like a victim mentality when that really wasn't what

0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.120
<v Speaker 4>it was.

0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a girl.

0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh well they thought that before this month.

0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, but I heard you talk about it on

0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Carlos King and that was my first time actually hearing

0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:54.760
<v Speaker 6>you explain.

0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:55.120
<v Speaker 3>It the way you did.

0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.119
<v Speaker 6>So he had alleged that you were dating a woman

0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.520
<v Speaker 6>at the time and that's who you were cheating, and

0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.919
<v Speaker 6>you said at the time you were going through so

0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.080
<v Speaker 6>much with him that you would have taken attention from

0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:09.080
<v Speaker 6>a Carborard box that please talk about.

0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:15.520
<v Speaker 3>What is the matter with you, girl? Lloyd? Just the

0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.520
<v Speaker 3>comic relief of the situation that you need.

0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't say there

0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.279
<v Speaker 4>was eating you know, we we were hanging out that's

0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.920
<v Speaker 4>that's still my girl to this day.

0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Like we're still friends. But I think it was extra

0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.160
<v Speaker 3>sauce placed on it.

0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.599
<v Speaker 4>I will say, Okay, flirting, yeah, like I'll be honest

0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.880
<v Speaker 4>about that, a little nibbled on some food we went

0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.159
<v Speaker 4>to dinner. We was eating at the dinner table. But

0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.080
<v Speaker 4>all of the extra stuff. I mean, you have to

0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.160
<v Speaker 4>really watch the show and know.

0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Who Ralph is.

0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.400
<v Speaker 4>He is very much a narcissist and that's who I married,

0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.359
<v Speaker 4>That's who I chose to love. But at the end

0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.640
<v Speaker 4>of the day, what happened happened. People have actually witnessed it.

0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.600
<v Speaker 4>The disrespect so to say, Okay, I'm hanging with this

0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.160
<v Speaker 4>woman and now it's a relationship that just came out

0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.680
<v Speaker 4>of nowhere. There was never any evidence, where's a receipt. Like,

0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, people can say things, doesn't make it true.

0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.000
<v Speaker 4>People say things about you. You know, is everything true?

0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Not everything everything?

0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.480
<v Speaker 5>But listen, how do you balance healing in private when

0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.640
<v Speaker 5>your pain is being monetized on reality TV?

0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, you know, that time that we did not come

0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.640
<v Speaker 4>right back on the show, I was actually grateful because

0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.800
<v Speaker 4>that was the time I took just to self, Like

0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I spent my time alone. You know, I just completely

0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.640
<v Speaker 4>shut down and I did a lot of praying, and

0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.240
<v Speaker 4>like I said, honestly, people may not have understood why

0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I said Dennis was my angel on Earth.

0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.120
<v Speaker 3>But really it was.

0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I was very grateful because it was a blessing at

0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.200
<v Speaker 4>that time to have somewhere to go a lot of

0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.640
<v Speaker 4>times like I didn't want to wake up out and

0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.320
<v Speaker 4>get out the bed. It's like you just don't feel productive,

0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:50.040
<v Speaker 4>like overwhelmed. Depression is real. So it was just knowing

0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that I have people supporting me, believing in me, and

0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.000
<v Speaker 4>a rooting for me, and I had to.

0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Show up, you know, for that.

0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.360
<v Speaker 4>And when I got to the studios like okay, I

0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.400
<v Speaker 4>made it, you know, and then being able to compile

0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.600
<v Speaker 4>all this this body of work and have a productive outlet,

0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.960
<v Speaker 4>like I said, it was exactly what I needed to

0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.120
<v Speaker 4>get me to the other side where I.

0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.240
<v Speaker 6>Am now looking back, because your project is here, the

0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.880
<v Speaker 6>music is here. But looking back on it, you brought

0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.120
<v Speaker 6>up the Dennist Angel on Earth comment and that the

0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.720
<v Speaker 6>people had conversations about that for a while.

0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's.

0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, Grimy, I'm not gonna lie.

0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:20.280
<v Speaker 1>You look shady.

0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.880
<v Speaker 2>When when it first came out because it came out

0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:27.440
<v Speaker 2>that you were working with Porsches porschess Yes, what out.

0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.200
<v Speaker 3>A didentist is out here? Yes, the shock for me,

0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.840
<v Speaker 3>it's the conversation.

0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Now this is and it wass soon. You did it

0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.600
<v Speaker 2>behind Porsches back, without having without talking.

0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.679
<v Speaker 3>But that wasn't it happened like that. See there we go.

0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.480
<v Speaker 3>See we gotta talk about it. That's not how it happened.

0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.120
<v Speaker 4>So actually, you know this is during the time Porsche

0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.680
<v Speaker 4>was living her African princess life.

0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Saw what she was. She was in Nigeria.

0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.600
<v Speaker 4>She wasn't checking for her girls. You know, I was

0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.720
<v Speaker 4>calling her. So on the record, I called Porscha a

0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.400
<v Speaker 4>bunch of times. Work with Dennis, Yes, Like why wouldn't

0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I Dennis had been reaching out for years, like come

0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:08.480
<v Speaker 4>be an ambassador for Naya.

0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's you know.

0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.400
<v Speaker 4>It was like no, no, no, But because of what

0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.760
<v Speaker 4>I was going through, this is my selfish season, okay.

0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.080
<v Speaker 4>And the music was good because I was like Dennis

0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.959
<v Speaker 4>I talks music like I was confused like everybody else,

0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.680
<v Speaker 4>right I was, But when he sent my team the music,

0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.920
<v Speaker 4>it was like this is really good, Like I.

0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Need to do this music. That's how it felt for me.

0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.280
<v Speaker 4>So when I was calling her and I was texting her,

0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I have the receipts, show them a reunion. I was like, girl,

0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I need to talk to you like it's really really important.

0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Bunch of techs. She wanted responding to you, girl, like

0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.160
<v Speaker 3>at all crickets.

0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.959
<v Speaker 4>So when she did come back and we did talk,

0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.920
<v Speaker 4>we were in the studio Dennis. We'll be talking to

0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.760
<v Speaker 4>her and she's like, send me some songs. She's like, oh,

0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.600
<v Speaker 4>this is my favorite song. This is my favorite song.

0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.560
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, okay, Porsche. He told me he had

0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.400
<v Speaker 4>a conversation, so she's cool. We talked two weeks before

0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.920
<v Speaker 4>we started filming and she was like, yes, girl, I

0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.840
<v Speaker 4>know we're going through our divorces, need to get together.

0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I love the music.

0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.880
<v Speaker 4>I was like okay, because you know, I wanted to

0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.840
<v Speaker 4>make sure like we're all family. It's all yes, girl,

0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I know, like it's all good. Let's hang out a

0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.720
<v Speaker 4>week before we film. Oh sorry, didn't come to your

0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.920
<v Speaker 4>birthday party, girl, but let's turn up tonight. You, me

0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.520
<v Speaker 4>and Yandy, let's go out for that was the energy.

0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.559
<v Speaker 4>So we go to Shamia's birthday party. That's why I

0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.439
<v Speaker 4>was so libergasted.

0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He said it was a different story.

0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:23.920
<v Speaker 3>What's that?

0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So when the cameras came on.

0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.880
<v Speaker 3>A different it was like a light switch.

0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.600
<v Speaker 4>It was like, why didn't Dennis tell her that he

0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.920
<v Speaker 4>did it? Because she knew and she never denied it.

0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.880
<v Speaker 4>But if you notice, when we were at Shamia's party,

0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.720
<v Speaker 4>it was like, I'm mad at you because you're working

0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.760
<v Speaker 4>with Dennis. Then it switched to well, you're filming with Dennis,

0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.760
<v Speaker 4>and then it was like a go naked thing. So

0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I was not clear on why she was upset and

0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.400
<v Speaker 4>what the real beef was. But as you've seen the season,

0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I just see, you know, the fans are smart, like

0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.280
<v Speaker 4>shout out to the fans because they're seeing like, no,

0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, we kind of catching her up in some

0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.520
<v Speaker 4>lives here, that's not actually how it happened. And it's

0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.640
<v Speaker 4>seeming more like deflection because you can't talk about a

0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.080
<v Speaker 4>certain person. So she chose to talk about me, you know,

0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.600
<v Speaker 4>because she couldn't, and she said that she couldn't talk.

0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:06.800
<v Speaker 1>She did it for the cameras.

0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.120
<v Speaker 4>You need story, but I mean you need to have

0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.480
<v Speaker 4>things going on in your personal life, Like why is

0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:13.199
<v Speaker 4>everything about what.

0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I got going on?

0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't understand on this It's hard to watch sometimes

0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.840
<v Speaker 5>because you don't know if it's real shade, if it's

0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.560
<v Speaker 5>real smoke, or if it's just a storyline.

0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.240
<v Speaker 3>No, everything I do is real.

0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I came on the show and an achilles rupture boot

0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Like I came on the show limping, like, that's not

0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.160
<v Speaker 4>how I want to come on. I want to come

0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.240
<v Speaker 4>in with my like a little bittons, you know, and

0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.640
<v Speaker 4>be fabulous. And I wanted to show black love and

0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.400
<v Speaker 4>marriage and all the beauty and all that that's I

0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to show this. So everything that I've shown

0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.360
<v Speaker 4>has just been my real life. I've not ever produced

0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.959
<v Speaker 4>anything or tried to give a storyline because like I've

0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.240
<v Speaker 4>been working since I was eight years old.

0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to put on for cameras. That's not me.

0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.839
<v Speaker 4>Some people may like, that's what some people may do.

0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.800
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like in this situation, instead of Porsche

0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.680
<v Speaker 4>opening up about like her real feelings without talking about

0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.960
<v Speaker 4>that particular person, she didn't need to deflect it and

0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.959
<v Speaker 4>make me her punging back. I think that was probably

0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.680
<v Speaker 4>the most hurtful part, because like, I'm going through a

0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:04.120
<v Speaker 4>lot too.

0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.080
<v Speaker 2>The Juy have in a real conversation because it made

0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you look crazy to the public at first when she

0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.240
<v Speaker 2>got on there and says, you're supposed to be my friend,

0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.000
<v Speaker 2>but you work on my ex and I had no idea.

0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a conversation? After that?

0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.280
<v Speaker 3>We did, We had to sit down. It didn't go

0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.640
<v Speaker 3>very well. Which one are you talking about?

0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Because the NATA well to sit down when she walked

0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.240
<v Speaker 4>out when we were drinking tea, it escalated, So it

0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.120
<v Speaker 4>wasn't really like true resolve. But yeah, no, it's it's

0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.400
<v Speaker 4>like Porscha is not the person as you have seen

0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.199
<v Speaker 4>that will communicate. You know, she's going to get up

0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.319
<v Speaker 4>and walk away. She's going to cover with all of

0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.720
<v Speaker 4>this happiness like she got it and that's not real.

0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.200
<v Speaker 4>And I just I think everyone was anticipating her to

0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.920
<v Speaker 4>come back this season and was excited, but ultimately she

0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.640
<v Speaker 4>couldn't deliver on the story that we thought we were getting,

0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, we thought we were getting Miscawadia and she

0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:48.640
<v Speaker 4>couldn't bring that.

0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh so you don't think PA's been delivering this season?

0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's just what I feel, you know, that's

0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.680
<v Speaker 4>my personal opinion is that this wasn't a real beef.

0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.600
<v Speaker 3>So then what are we talking about. Let's talk about

0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.920
<v Speaker 3>something real, you get.

0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, two women together who are strong, who are

0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.720
<v Speaker 4>bosses in their own right, have a conversation. We're not

0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 4>going to agree on everything, but we don't need to

0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:07.840
<v Speaker 4>make this the whole thing. We're talking about for the

0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.080
<v Speaker 4>whole season, me and Dennis the whole season.

0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.480
<v Speaker 5>That That's why, in a lot of ways, I hate

0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.120
<v Speaker 5>reality because they will monetize your trauma for pain, like

0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.880
<v Speaker 5>what you might be going through with your divorce or

0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.640
<v Speaker 5>what emoture might be going through. It's just like damn.

0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:23.800
<v Speaker 5>And then if they can't get that, they just want

0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.719
<v Speaker 5>to pitch y'all against each other.

0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't like it.

0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.080
<v Speaker 1>What's the point of doing?

0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.600
<v Speaker 4>That's how I feel like we're both going through a divorce.

0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.959
<v Speaker 4>We could be talking about that, you know what I mean?

0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:31.480
<v Speaker 3>It really comes.

0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Everything doesn't have to be like a moment. And I

0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.720
<v Speaker 4>think you know, you see some girls that come on

0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.080
<v Speaker 4>the show and it's just like I need a moment,

0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.840
<v Speaker 4>let me just say something to go viral or whatever,

0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.240
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, no, just be yourself. And I think

0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.480
<v Speaker 4>that's also how I've been able to be on now

0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.439
<v Speaker 4>for four seasons and that's just what I've learned because

0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.880
<v Speaker 4>there's been a lot of cash shakeups. Like I don't

0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.040
<v Speaker 4>even know how I'm still here because it's been people

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.319
<v Speaker 4>that are that we're here, been here for a long

0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.560
<v Speaker 4>time in or no longer here. But what I've learned

0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.400
<v Speaker 4>from the ogs that have poured into me is just

0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.520
<v Speaker 4>be yourself, you know, and the story will tell itself.

0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So I just want tother question. So you're not with

0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:04.560
<v Speaker 1>her go naked hairline?

0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I literally was about to ask, so that's not go

0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.559
<v Speaker 3>naked hair this right now? Yes? No, this looks good.

0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:10.760
<v Speaker 2>The hair that.

0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I was wearing in the sit down where you saw

0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 4>the bangs, that that that's I warren in real time

0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.400
<v Speaker 4>because when you put it through a one two edit,

0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.040
<v Speaker 4>how I made it look it looked great. But in

0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.160
<v Speaker 4>person y'all saw it, right, That's how that was go

0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 4>naked there?

0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.880
<v Speaker 3>So are you an ambassador forked?

0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:26.920
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no no no no. I have a great vendor.

0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.520
<v Speaker 3>She's melted. We're good.

0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.800
<v Speaker 5>So you don't like go naked head, is what you're saying.

0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean it just didn't work for me. Per se.

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.480
<v Speaker 4>When you go to bleach blonded, it just it did

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.120
<v Speaker 4>something that wasn't right.

0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.960
<v Speaker 6>Would you have said that prior to all this dinnist stuff,

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:42.760
<v Speaker 6>because I thought you.

0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Were so it was it was like a good partnership.

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.240
<v Speaker 6>It was in the beginning of the season you said

0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.840
<v Speaker 6>you thought you were doing numbers for Go Naked.

0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I did do numbers. I did do numbers. That's why.

0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, I just believe like as black women, we support

0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 4>each other. Right, If you're my girl, I'm gonna support you.

0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.720
<v Speaker 4>We have a great working relationship. It was fun, you know,

0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160
<v Speaker 4>fun to work with her at that time. And if

0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.400
<v Speaker 4>that's your friend, you're gonna hold your friend down. But

0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.280
<v Speaker 4>it was just when all of this started to happen,

0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.160
<v Speaker 4>it just became corny to me, you know. So I'm like, okay, well,

0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.520
<v Speaker 4>now since we're gonna you're gonna drag me, Well, I'm

0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna speak my truth then, because the truth is like

0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.080
<v Speaker 4>I had your back, but if you don't have my back,

0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.000
<v Speaker 4>now it's fair game.

0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.280
<v Speaker 5>You think the show?

0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.200
<v Speaker 3>You said, all right, let me be honest about this. Yeah,

0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest. Now, Okay, I would rather goneck get

0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:24.840
<v Speaker 3>than to wear that hair.

0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Game. You think the show would still be interesting if

0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.640
<v Speaker 5>if you a portion weren't beefing or like tension just

0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 5>part of the paycheck. Now.

0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean I came on the show.

0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Let me make it clear, because I've been an actress

0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.640
<v Speaker 4>since I was literally like in.

0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Grade school, right.

0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.400
<v Speaker 4>So I made a decision because I was like, you

0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:42.840
<v Speaker 4>know what, people know me from this role.

0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.200
<v Speaker 3>They may not like me from this role or that

0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.160
<v Speaker 3>role or that movie or whatever. I fell going through COVID.

0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.320
<v Speaker 4>It was just an opportunity to be more vulnerable and

0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.680
<v Speaker 4>let the fans really get to know me and see

0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.200
<v Speaker 4>me as a mother and a wife and a friend

0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.920
<v Speaker 4>and a sister, like I'm so many other things, and

0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to show that, and so that was the

0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.440
<v Speaker 4>reason for me joining the show.

0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.760
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't to do anything.

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.960
<v Speaker 4>But just hopefully inspire other people going through what I'm

0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.160
<v Speaker 4>dealing with and connecting that way. So it wasn't to

0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.880
<v Speaker 4>show what is happening like that was opposite of what

0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.720
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to represent on this platform. So I've never

0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.440
<v Speaker 4>subscribed to let's do this for a moment, you know,

0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 4>let's do this for storyline. I actually feel like when

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.320
<v Speaker 4>we used to watch Housewives and when it was nostalgic

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.040
<v Speaker 4>was because it was a group of women who were

0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.760
<v Speaker 4>really friends, and when you saw them fall out, it

0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.880
<v Speaker 4>was because I'm fighting you because I love you and

0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I know you can be better.

0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.280
<v Speaker 3>You can do so much more.

0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.200
<v Speaker 4>So that was where the beefs came, and then they

0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.200
<v Speaker 4>were able to resolve and move forward. And I feel

0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 4>like here sometimes they just want to kill you off,

0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, they want to.

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Just like go below the bell. It was like dang,

0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:45.640
<v Speaker 3>like do you like me or not?

0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Like what are we building or not? And so that's

0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.440
<v Speaker 4>what I would like to see the show get back to.

0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.640
<v Speaker 4>And I think this season overall it was refreshing. It

0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.040
<v Speaker 4>wasn't dark, you know, as some of the fans have said,

0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.760
<v Speaker 4>like they felt like the show was going dark.

0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.560
<v Speaker 3>So I think we're moving towards a more pot place.

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:01.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I agree with that.

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.240
<v Speaker 5>But so so like if you do an interview like

0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.399
<v Speaker 5>now you do, you're a little shady. So the gold

0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Speaker 5>naked hairline a lot of shady, right, you want that

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 5>kind of put fuel on the fire.

0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean when you have to wake up and

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.879
<v Speaker 4>see people dragging you constantly, and I'm the type of

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 4>person that'll just be like, okay, all right, you know,

0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.679
<v Speaker 4>and after so long I think now it's like I

0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.480
<v Speaker 4>got to start standing for me because for so long

0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I have protected my husband, I have protected my friends.

0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, people don't really hear from Drew too much.

0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I do my job and I go to work. You know,

0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm the girl that just that just works. I have

0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.240
<v Speaker 4>three children, I'm going through a divorce, and whether whether

0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm on Housewives or a movie or whatever, I'm just working.

0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.119
<v Speaker 4>But now it's just gotten disrespectful where it's like, okay,

0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:44.679
<v Speaker 4>you know you want to throw your shade.

0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well I'm gonna speak my truth, and if it's shady,

0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:48.560
<v Speaker 3>the truth heard sometimes.

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.760
<v Speaker 5>So you're talking about where what Porscha said, you was

0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 5>having sex with somebody, sleeping with somebody.

0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.120
<v Speaker 3>She said so many things to take it out.

0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:57.960
<v Speaker 1>What the guy's name?

0:17:58.640 --> 0:17:59.359
<v Speaker 3>The past present?

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh well we were talking about her. Oh she was

0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.439
<v Speaker 4>dating the past present, but they believed it. But present

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:06.200
<v Speaker 4>you feel.

0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, got you you got you, got you got.

0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 4>So you don't see it resolved for you and this

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 4>girl at all. You're on Porsche, you don't at all

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.040
<v Speaker 4>because you said you want to see the show get

0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.040
<v Speaker 4>back to you know what that was where it used

0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.080
<v Speaker 4>to be women were able to have their arguments, go

0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 4>through it, talk it out, and then they're cool. You

0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.040
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, you don't ever see you on

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.520
<v Speaker 4>Porsche like, you know what, let's just put all this

0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:33.240
<v Speaker 4>shit behind us because it didn't get crazy. It did,

0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.600
<v Speaker 4>but all right, we're women, we both bosses. We like, yeah,

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.480
<v Speaker 4>you don't see that.

0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.119
<v Speaker 5>I think.

0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.639
<v Speaker 4>In certain cases it's hard to come back from certain

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.639
<v Speaker 4>things and just putting out falsities. That's like damaging to

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.480
<v Speaker 4>my character, to me as a person. You know, I

0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 4>have kids, So I just feel like the line has

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 4>been crossed one too many times. However, I feel like,

0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, if there's an opportunity to have a real

0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.679
<v Speaker 4>conversation and it may not happen on camera, I don't know.

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean off camera.

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm really big on like resolution, I'm really big on

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.600
<v Speaker 4>gaining understanding and like moving forward. So if it is

0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.240
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity that presents itself, I would be open to that.

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 4>But it hasn't happened, and it's it's a year now.

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, how do you do with the mental because

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, they attack you a lot, right, they attack Uh,

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 2>they come for you.

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.119
<v Speaker 6>That the Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan thing with him being

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:27.439
<v Speaker 6>your cousin, Is he your cousin or not?

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.960
<v Speaker 3>That was that was clearly a joke.

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, my maiden is Drew Jordan, but I'm from

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 4>Chicago and everybody in Chicago wanted.

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 3>To be related to Michael Jordan, so we actually had

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 3>the last name.

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Jordan's were like, oh yeah, that's like the whole time,

0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Like my brother in law's Craig Hodges in real life.

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 4>So go into the games is like, where is your

0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 4>cousin at right?

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Exactly leg because it's.

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 6>That I feel like they come for your outfits, they

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.120
<v Speaker 6>be trying to comfort, they come for everything, and so.

0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm just supposed to take it like it's only so

0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.880
<v Speaker 4>much a person can take where it's like, hold on, look,

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:00.919
<v Speaker 4>I'm from Chicago.

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.760
<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day. Now when I start firing,

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh my god, Drew, Oh she did some shade.

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh there, so me, And.

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 4>It's like, no, this is who I am, and this

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 4>is what happens when you poke the bear over and

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 4>over and over again. But no, like, my mom is

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 4>on a Facebook group the Michael Jordan Family Tree, and it's.

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Thousands of people in that chat. She's on their first

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 3>since our little girl, trying to connect it. I was like,

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I want a cousin that. I think that the.

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.119
<v Speaker 4>Nieces can relate it to my friend and Don my

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:24.680
<v Speaker 4>mam will want to be related. We all want to

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 4>So it was clearly a joke.

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 6>Then Joe created so many deep dives of trying to

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:29.440
<v Speaker 6>figure out your.

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Faily, right.

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 5>I want to ask some questions about Judrew you been

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.400
<v Speaker 5>you have you know, you've been in this game since

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.439
<v Speaker 5>you were a kid. How do you think Hollywood's perception

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.760
<v Speaker 5>of you has changed? And how is your own perception

0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 5>of yourself changed? Oh? Good?

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know I feel like on the side of

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 4>like the theatrical, you know, TV and film, I'm proud

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 4>of what I've been able to accomplish, you know, in

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 4>my career. Sometimes I don't reflect enough and like, wow,

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:55.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I've been able to work with some amazing

0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 4>actors and some amazing projects and tell some amazing stories.

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 4>But the Game, it's like, that's one project that I

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 4>just feel like the public perceives me in that way

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 4>and I can't shake it.

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's like what decade is in a decade?

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I still see the comments to this day,

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 4>which is saying, Okay, this was obviously something really big

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 4>and a part of the culture.

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 3>But I did see a hashtag.

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 4>Where it was like hashtag canceled the Juice Door hate,

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.080
<v Speaker 4>and I just want to say, can we.

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Do that please?

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Like, at the end of the day, this has gone

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 4>on too long. Drwin lied to Juice of Door, Like

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:33.880
<v Speaker 4>do we not all watch the same show? You feel

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.720
<v Speaker 4>like they hit carried from there almost definitely. Like I

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.120
<v Speaker 4>see the comments, I'm like wow, And I've met people

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 4>that's like, Ooh, I'm mad at you cause you broke

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 4>up med school and I'm like, you know, Tia, was Mary,

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 4>you know Booch, you like as a whole family. But

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 4>people were very invested in the show. And I just

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.239
<v Speaker 4>think that's a perception people have of me, you know,

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 4>despite all the various roles I've played, which is why

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 4>I did join the show to try to change that narrative.

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 4>And I think for myself, yes, perception of self is

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 4>I have so many things I want to do. I

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 4>want to do Broadway, I want to direct, I produced

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.479
<v Speaker 4>my first film, and continue to open the door for

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 4>other young talent coming up. And so that's where I'm

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 4>moving into of my contribution stage in life and wanting

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 4>to really see others win as well in this business.

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I think the thing with the game was right. Everybody

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.880
<v Speaker 4>else had fictional names, but you really went on there

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 4>is Drew Sodora like you. Why was that shout out

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow Rocky Hill shout out? I'm oh nice, I love

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 4>that woman, you know. Actually, So the story behind that

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 4>is I booked Girlfriends. I did an episode of Girlfriends,

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 4>and when I went on set, she remembered meeting me.

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Come into my home because my sister, Allison is my

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 4>my manager since I was like eight years old, and

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 4>so she came to the house to meet my sister.

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 4>My sister was a writer on Amen Rock Martin worked

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 4>from Morris Agency. Yeah, like like og Wright, And so

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 4>she came to my sister's house to see if she

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 4>would share her rolodecks because she was moving to Los

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Angeles to become a producer. And she's like, Drew, when

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 4>you were eight, you were running around the house talking

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 4>about I'm going to be an actress and a sayinger,

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and she's like, and you really like stuck with it.

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 4>And so for that reason, let's talk about some bigger things.

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 4>So she wrote me in the show the game. So

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 4>that's how it came to be, And it was really

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 4>like an honor because I'm like, you got to be

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 4>like a list right to play yourself. So to have

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity, I was like, Wow, I want to showcase

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 4>my music. I think that was one of the first

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 4>times that people to notice to me as an actual

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 4>musical artist.

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 5>Luthamar let me, do you ever feel like people will

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 5>underestimate your arrange because they know you more from Real

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Housewives Now than like your acting career?

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 6>Are a music corect even on the show that was

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 6>then that was a narrative on the show when you

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 6>first came on the show, they were really playing with

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 6>your IMDb.

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean I think that you get placed in a box,

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 4>just even just let's say African Americans and the arts

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 4>as a whole, we get placed in boxes really easily

0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.440
<v Speaker 4>stereotyped that exists, and for me joining the show wanting

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 4>to show in my real life now, it kind of

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 4>took away from my actual skill, my passion, which is

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, music and acting. So for me it was

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 4>important to balance it, which is why you know, on

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 4>off season I go to la and really, you know,

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 4>you have to get in people's faces and remind them,

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 4>like here, I am continuing in my acting classes just

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 4>to keep showing myself approved because it's always changing. It's

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 4>extremely competitive, and I think the industry has changed a

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 4>lot where it used to be and not in all cases,

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 4>but it is this now and it exists.

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 3>They look at numbers two, so you might be.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I've had producers directors say you were the better actress,

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 4>but this person had more followers no than you. And

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.719
<v Speaker 4>so it's a balance now of talent as well as

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.479
<v Speaker 4>marketing yourself and being more appealing to buyers.

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 6>Well you got I did it to me. Your music

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 6>is out and I watched you said that your music

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 6>was like you're healing when you were going through the

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 6>divorce because you were in such a dark place. What

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 6>song on your album was like when you hear it, now,

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 6>get tearful, It takes you there, it's your favorite.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 3>It's two definitely I did it to me and love

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 3>for a minute with Sierra. Shout out to Sierra Gates.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 3>She came and get laid like a eight bar a

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>little situation. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Sierra.

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Speaking, she was rapping and that's a lot of people

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 4>don't know she came in. But it's a very emotional record.

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 4>And that was the record that actually Dennis and I

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 4>were in the studio and it was like really emotional.

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 4>He was over there crying about Portia and I was

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 4>in there having my moment. But it is it's an

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 4>emotional record. But I did it to me as very

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 4>representative of the project because it's about taking accountability. And

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 4>that's why I love that record because I could sit

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 4>here and share, you know, with you guys all the

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 4>things that my ex did right that weren't right. But

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 4>it gets tiring after a while to keep blaming everything

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 4>on the other person. So for me, it's like, no,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I played a part. You know, there were things I

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 4>could have done better if I'm being honest, And so

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>that's what the song is saying, like look in the mirror.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 4>It's not easy to do, you know, but you gotta

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>sometimes look at yourself and say, Okay, yeah I made

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 4>a mistake here.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 3>There and I could have been better, and then grow

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 3>from that. What do you let him know that I

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>have Actually I have.

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 4>We have had conversations, you know, before we go to

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 4>court because when you go to court, that's when everything

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 4>blows back up. But we've had conversations where we have stated,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, we understand our differences now and I can say, well,

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I could have done this better, and he has said it,

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, and apologize in some areas, and yeah, like

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 4>we're humans and just being more gentle with ourselves and

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 4>just forgiving each other doesn't erase everything and every pain

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 4>that we cause. But yeah, we can be honest and say,

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, I wasn't perfect.

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 3>I can say that now.

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 2>You've been in the business for since a child, right, Yeah,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>what's the most cut throat part?

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it Hollywood? Is it Reality TV? Or the music?

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 3>That's a hard one, oh man.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean I've been able to have a consistent career,

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 4>like with acting, even though joining the reality show to

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 4>what you were saying, Charlotte, and like I've been able

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>to now create a space where I did like five

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 4>movies you know, last year, and I'm very proud of that.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 4>So I feel like the acting world has allowed me

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 4>back in, you know, So reality or music? I feel

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 4>like music because I'm still trying to knock down this wall,

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 4>but because they look.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>At just taking your talent because you can sing, So

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>it's taking that talent away.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does.

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>And it's a constant proving which is fine. Like I

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 4>never get to a point where I feel like entitled

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 4>or like I should have certain things. I feel like

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 4>it's important to keep working on your craft and and

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 4>just do the work. Put your head down and do

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 4>the work so that way when the opportunity comes, you know,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm prepared. And that's just really what I've been doing.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 4>So even though I havn't knocked down that door, I

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 4>feel like having a project out is monumental for me.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 4>It doing as well as it's doing almost gold and streams,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>which is unbelievable to me, without like a lot a

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of marketing. It's just really grassroots word of mouth,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 4>and now getting out there and performing is next for me.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 4>So I'm just still on that journey of like really

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 4>making it happen for myself in music question.

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 5>Was the a moment where you felt like reality TV

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 5>saved you? And was there a time where you felt

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 5>like it broke you?

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would definitely say Because people try to say, Okay,

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>reality TV breaks up a lot of marriages and things

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 4>like that, I can't say, I blame my fallout of

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 4>my marriage on it. I feel like what it did

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 4>do was escalated and put a magnifying glass. And it

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 4>also held us accountable because you know, you can fight

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 4>with your spouse and be like, okay, you know what,

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm not even gonna say nothing. We're just gonna roll

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 4>past this, or we're gonna put a band aid, or

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna talk about it in private or not talk

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 4>about it at all. But when you're do it on cameras,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 4>now you gotta talk about it and you have to

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 4>go into counseling and they really hold you accountable. So

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I think for us, it made us more responsible and

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 4>understanding like this probably isn't meant to be. So I

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 4>think it saved me from dedicating my life to twenty

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 4>years in this marriage and then it being over. We

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>both have said that we believe that it wouldn't have lasted. Yeah,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 4>So I think in that regards, it did save me,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, to be able to get to this place

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 4>and I'm my person, because I think my person is

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 4>still out there. You know, I'm not jaded or bitter.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>And then did it break me? Oh yeah, because I

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>mean this was my biggest storm, Like depression is real,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 4>mental health is real. Like you never know your breaking points,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 4>and I can honestly say, like I reached that, I

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>completely lost myself, I lost my voice in this marriage

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>and having it play out on national TV, it was overwhelming.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 4>It was overwhelming because you're living it a few times,

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you're filming it, and then you're watching it. That's like,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 4>can you imagine that we relived in our head?

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>And an embarrassment because usually if there's a problem in

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>your marriage is at home, but now you are the

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>whole world has an opinion. The whole world is even

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a common and they don't know what's sure or what's not, but.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>They just have an opinion.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 6>And every time I watch your interviews, You're breaking down

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 6>in a interviews every single time, and I'm wondering, like,

0:29:58.440 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 6>why put more stuff out there?

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Like Michael B. Jordan, have you spoke to him since

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>the Carlos King interview? Oh my god, that was.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>A big.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 6>In Carlos King's interview, Carlos King asked her who's one

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 6>of the most like famous people she's dated, and she

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 6>mentioned that she used to date Michael B. Jordan back

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 6>in the day and that was everywhere. I'm like, WHOA,

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 6>she'd just be volunteering the influence.

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Why you asked a question?

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 5>I am.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, no, not even a little bit.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm an open book and I just try to always

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 4>remain that way because I think it's important to talk

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 4>about your life and open up.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I make that choice.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I made that choice when I join reality TV because

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's important for people to see you

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 4>as a human being, you know, and I feel like

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 4>other people can see you as a real person.

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 3>And no, okay, you know, everything's not perfect in my world.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 4>I may overspeak or say too much or shade or whatever,

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 4>but this is who I am and I'm unapologetically me.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I was asked the questions, so I answered it,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>and he asked me on a date to attend the

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 4>NAACP Awards.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 3>It was probably like two thousand and maybe six, when

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 3>he was like still on the soap operas and I

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 3>met his mom and stuff. It was cool.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 4>We went down a couple of days. No, there was

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 4>no like intimacy on the record, but still he was

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 4>very very sweet guy, very very sweet, and he's been

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 4>super successful. But yeah, that's my truth and it happened.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 5>You know, this is my last question. With all the

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 5>healing that you've gotten, right and what you know now,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 5>if you could go back and whisper something to yourself

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 5>during the hardest moment of your marriage, what would you say.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>The hardest part of my marriage.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 5>I think.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 4>It was a couple of things, but for sure Ralph

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 4>moving out of the bedroom. You know that it felt

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 4>like abandonment, you know what I mean. It's different to

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 4>like go sleep separately and just but him making the

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>decision to move out when instead of fighting, Because people

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 4>don't stay married forever without waking up every day and

0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 4>choosing each other.

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>So when the person wakes up and doesn't choose you.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, h we appreciate you for joining us. Let's get Andrew,

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>let's get into your single. We're gonna play your single

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>What you want to hear? Oh?

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I know right. I was like, let's wake it up,

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 3>let's wake it up.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 4>It's early, you know, after you go through all the

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 4>heartach campaign, you know you gotta get outside.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 3>And so good Girl, Bad Bitch is uh my next single.

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Good Girl it's the outside record, it is.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 4>It's my outside record, and that's what the album is.

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, you may cry and fall in love for

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 4>out of love when you're listening to my album, and

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 4>this particular song is one that's empowering and getting outside

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 4>with your girls and just living, you know.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's get to it. It's Juice and Dora.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in the morning. Breakfast Club.