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Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Show.

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Speaker 2: Just a few days ago was the five year anniversary

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Speaker 2: of a young man barely barely old enough to vote,

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Speaker 2: not old enough to buy liquor in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: He ran to try to help during the Bill m

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Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter riots. They thought they would overpower him

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Speaker 2: and probably kill him. Name is Kyle Rittenhouse. He was

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Speaker 2: put in a bad situation where he was forced to

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Speaker 2: make a decision save his life and perhaps take the

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Speaker 2: lives of others.

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Speaker 1: Or give his life.

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Speaker 2: Because they were determined to kill him. Well, he fired

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Speaker 2: three shots in self defense. He hit a pedophile, a burglar,

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Speaker 2: and a domestic abuser. Pretty much everything you need to know,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? That was five years ago? Just a few

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Speaker 2: days ago, it just marked the five year anniversary. This

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Speaker 2: was our conversation just a couple of years ago with

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Speaker 2: the young man about his future and where he is now.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rittenhouse is the only guest we've ever had in

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Speaker 2: our new studios. Much like Kyle Rittenhouse, I don't tell

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Speaker 2: anybody where I'm going to be and then show up

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Speaker 2: there for obvious reasons. There are some people who don't

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Speaker 2: like me, so we hide out in a very very

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Speaker 2: very as Mark Lemann would say, nondescript building, and just

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Speaker 2: as Rush Limbaugh did, and Kyle came rolling up and

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Speaker 2: couldn't find it because we're tucked away and very very

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Speaker 2: hard to find. But Kyle Rittenhouse is our guest in

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Speaker 2: studio to talk about who he is as a person

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Speaker 2: before we start the intro, to give you a little context.

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Speaker 2: I did something for this discussion. I don't like the

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Speaker 2: term interview. I did something for this discussion that I

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Speaker 2: don't think I've ever done, and that is zero prep.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to know what other people thought about

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rittenhouse because I think we're going to gain a

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Speaker 2: lot more ground if we have a conversation with a

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Speaker 2: person without being biased, prejudiced, colored by what other people

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Speaker 2: said about him. So I literally didn't know research on him.

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Speaker 2: That was my strategy. I've never done that before, I'll

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Speaker 2: probably never do that again. And the reason is I

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Speaker 2: want to go into this with my eyes wide open,

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Speaker 2: and I want to see which things I remember from

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Speaker 2: what I saw in the media, because I know enough

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Speaker 2: as you do to realize there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that we were told that are not true. And

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Speaker 2: I hope we learn a lot of those. Before we

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Speaker 2: begin our conversation with Kyle Rittenhouse, a little intro to

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Speaker 2: take you back to the moment that he became as

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Speaker 2: a very young man. A household name.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Rittenhouse is accused of killing two people and wounding

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Speaker 3: another with an AR fifteen semi automatic rifle in late

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Speaker 3: August of last year, now eighteen. The charges against him

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Speaker 3: ranged from murder to reckless endangerment. Writtenhouse pled not guilty

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Speaker 3: to all the charges. He is claiming self defense. The

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Speaker 3: shooting happened during a time of racial unrest and Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Three days earlier, Jacob Blake, a black man, had been

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Speaker 3: shot seven times by a white police officer. Blake survived

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Speaker 3: but was left paralyzed from the waist down. The officer

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Speaker 3: who shot him was never charged. The shooting occurred nearly

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Speaker 3: three months after the police killing of George Floyd and

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Speaker 3: sparked protests, some of which became violent, with buildings set

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Speaker 3: of protests, Kyle Rittenhouse, then seventeen, left his hometown in

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Speaker 3: Illinois and cross state lines into Kenosha. He joined other

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Speaker 3: Rittenhouse first shot Joseph Rosenbaum in the head. Rosenbaum, seen

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Speaker 3: here wearing a red shirt before he allegedly chased and

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Speaker 3: lunged at Brittenhouse, was not armed. Moments later, video footage

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Speaker 3: captured Brittenhouse being chased by a crowd of protesters and

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Speaker 3: also shoots Gage Grosscrits, who was wielding a handgun. Hours later,

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Speaker 3: accompanied by his mother, Rittenhouse turned himself in to police

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Speaker 3: as the jury reached verdicts to each account of the

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Speaker 3: information and one verdicutm one verdoy you find the defendant,

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Speaker 3: Kyle H.

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Speaker 2: Red Health not guilty. I can't help but notice, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: how young you look like Terrabic. I know a nineteen

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to be called cherubic. You could be my kid.

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Speaker 2: You're just a couple of years older than my sixteen

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Speaker 2: older than you. I mean I met you at mar

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Speaker 2: A Lago, but things were moving fast and there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of people there. I can't help, but notice

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Speaker 2: you've been through a lot and you're just I don't

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Speaker 2: but this is a lot to process for a young man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a difficult time, and I guess in

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin we just aged differently.

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Speaker 2: Is all right? Like, jeez, yeah, when you agree to

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Speaker 2: come and have this conversation, you knew it was a

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Speaker 2: pretty safe space. You knew I wasn't out to get you.

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Speaker 2: You saw the things I'd written on Twitter about you

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Speaker 2: and your situation. But why agree to talk? Why not

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Speaker 2: just walk into the sunset and never speak to anyone again.

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Speaker 4: I believe my story needs to be put out there.

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Speaker 4: I believe people have a misunderstanding of the facts of

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Speaker 4: the case. And the media gave me this platform. That

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Speaker 4: they gave me this platform, and I'm gonna use it

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Speaker 4: like they'd have famed me. They called me a racist,

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Speaker 4: they called me a white supremacist, and I believe I

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Speaker 4: have the right to defend that in the public opinion,

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Speaker 4: the public eye. And I'm not going to be quiet.

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Speaker 4: I can't be quiet.

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Speaker 2: Do you actually believe you can change anybody's opinion I've changed.

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Speaker 4: I've changed a few people's opinion. I think if they

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Speaker 4: really sit down and listen and they think hard, and

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Speaker 4: they watch my trial, I think they'll be able to

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Speaker 4: change their mind. And if they haven't opened, if they

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Speaker 4: haven't open and brain an open opinion.

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Speaker 2: We just played that intro and I watched your face

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Speaker 2: to see how you reacted, what's going on inside you.

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Speaker 2: You kept a pretty calm face to hear your name

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Speaker 2: and terms like murder, to know that you were the

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Speaker 2: subject of every evening news. How did you were?

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Speaker 4: How old?

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Speaker 2: As I said, I did no intro, We're going to

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Speaker 2: start as if just like we've just met and you're

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Speaker 2: telling me this story fresh. So how old were you?

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Speaker 4: I was seventeen when this all right?

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Speaker 2: And when you hear all that talk about you, is

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Speaker 2: that a different Kyle Rittenhouse or is that still you?

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Speaker 2: Do you still internalize that or is it still like

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Speaker 4: I still internalize it every day. I'm like, Wow, I

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Speaker 4: can't believe like I was in the news yesterday, I'm

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Speaker 4: in the news every day, and it's something I'm getting

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Speaker 4: used to. But it's just weird waking up and just

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Speaker 4: go and watch a podcast and then my name will

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Speaker 4: be thrown in it. Or I'll be reading an article

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Speaker 4: about me, and I was like, Wow, this is weird.

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Speaker 2: Do you wish it would stop?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes? Yeah? Yeah, sometimes I wish the articles would stop

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Speaker 4: sometimes because a lot of times they're not true and

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Speaker 4: they're just hit pieces on me, and I have no

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Speaker 4: control over that. So what I do is I go

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Speaker 4: on media and then I tell my story and counter

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Speaker 4: some of the articles. If that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: How long will it be until you can fade off

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Speaker 2: into the sunset and live a quote unquote normal life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you commented that our Uber dr that our

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Speaker 2: you were walking into the studio he recognized you. I

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Speaker 2: mean that, you know that's happening everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I don't know

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Speaker 4: how long until I can live a normal life. I

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Speaker 4: But hopefully in the next couple of years. But right

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Speaker 4: now I'm facing a civil lawsuit where it's kind of

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Speaker 4: hard for me to live that normal life because I

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Speaker 4: got to defend this lawsuit and then all this other

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Speaker 2: It's a lot to process for a very young man.

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Speaker 2: You had to grow up fast. Coming up, Kyle Rittenhouse

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Speaker 2: who he is as a human being. Get us up

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Speaker 2: to that fateful day, spend a few minutes on that day,

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Speaker 2: although that's not the purpose of today's conversation, and then

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Speaker 2: I want to move on to what is the purpose,

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Speaker 2: and that is what's happened since What did he learn,

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Speaker 2: how did he grow? Who betrayed him, who stood with him?

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Speaker 2: And more? Coming up with Kyle Rittenhouse.

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Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 2: Please clap, please please cla.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, okay, I like to.

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Speaker 2: There's a little hit hop at the end. Kyle Rittenhouse

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Speaker 2: is our guest in studio, the first and only in

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Speaker 2: studio guests, probably the last in studio guests. We just

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Speaker 2: don't do it very often. But I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: across from him and look in his eyes as we

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Speaker 2: have this conversation, and he's going to be picking our

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Speaker 2: bump music today. So a little Jason Aldeen to start

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Speaker 2: the show. So let's let's take We got about nine

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Speaker 2: minutes in this segment. I want you to take me

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Speaker 2: from where you were born to where we are today

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Speaker 2: as a person. If I was watching a biography, a

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Speaker 2: biography of you, Kyle Rittenhouse, you were born.

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Speaker 4: Where I was born in Lake Forest, Illinois. I moved

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Speaker 4: around a lot as a child. I lived in several towns,

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Speaker 4: including Wisconsin, Illinois Mixture. The last place before my shooting

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Speaker 4: I lived was Antiac, Illinois. I dropped out of high

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Speaker 4: school freshman year to work three jobs to help pay

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Speaker 2: Mother, and so you lived primarily with mom. Yes, how

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Speaker 4: I was like seven, eight years old?

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Speaker 2: Okay, were there problems before that? Did you want them

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Speaker 2: or divorced, they'll say I wanted them to They fought

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Speaker 4: They did fight. Thinking back, I don't really know. I

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Speaker 4: don't remember how I felt in that time.

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Speaker 2: I think I was just that wasn't a traumatic time.

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Speaker 2: Mommy and daddy don't live together anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I was just too young to really

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Speaker 2: How did you end up with mom? Was that a

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Speaker 4: That was Mom's decision. She was the only one that

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Speaker 4: was capable. My dad moved to Arizona. Then he moved

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Speaker 4: back to Wisconsin and outd go there on the weekends.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And you stayed in touch with him, Yeah, somewhat okay,

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Speaker 2: and close to mom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I'm close to mom. I don't

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Speaker 4: really talk to my dad anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for reasons you want to talk about it or not.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to, Yeah, you don't have to. So

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Speaker 2: how would you describe your childhood? Happy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a normal childhood growing up in

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Speaker 4: When I was younger, going fishing. That was one of

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Speaker 4: Mom was a Santa Ada nursing home, working seventy hours

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Speaker 4: We we all ended up doing online. We switched online.

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Speaker 4: I liked helping people. I liked I liked helping my community.

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Speaker 4: Then I laughed so hard. You remember Ralphie from a

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Speaker 4: Well, I was there because I was asked to be

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Speaker 4: At that moment, I wasn't living with Dad, but I

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Speaker 2: Where did you sleep in Kenosha? The night before the shooting?

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Speaker 4: I slept at my friend's house, where I spent half

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Speaker 4: That house, yes, okay, in Kenosha.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't come with you. He does come with He

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Speaker 2: And his name is Dominic Black. Dominic Black. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: are y'all still friends today?

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Speaker 4: We don't talk much anymore because.

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Speaker 4: We grew up and grew away, and we took we

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about the incident briefly, and then

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Speaker 1: Coming out with Michael Verry Show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one here.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rittenhouse is our guest in the studio. He's also

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Speaker 2: picking our boat music, so you'll get a sense of

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Speaker 2: went to Tennessee Whiskey by Chris Stapleton. What app or

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Speaker 2: how else? How do you listen to music on your phone?

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Speaker 4: Apple Music?

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Speaker 2: Apple Music? Okay, all right, so let's get this over

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Speaker 2: the Kyle Rittenhouse since that's far more interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: The quick description of what happened that night, we've got

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Speaker 4: I went down to Kenosha. I was already there. A

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Speaker 4: We met the car source owners. We talked to them

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Speaker 2: What kind of business was it was a car lot?

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Speaker 4: Okay, one of the car lots have been burnt the

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Speaker 2: Are you getting paid by this guy? No, You're just

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Speaker 4: Yes, to provide first aid and help my community.

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Speaker 4: And then I got a call that the car source

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Speaker 2: He kidnapped somebody, yeah, after all since then, yeah after

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Speaker 2: You're not the biggest guy in the world. No, at

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Speaker 2: I was cornered, so you defend yourself for which you

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Speaker 4: I was forced to defend myself against three people. Two

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Speaker 2: How do you get back home?

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Speaker 4: So I walked back down Sheridan Road towards the police line.

441
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Speaker 4: I walk up to the police car and I tell

442
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: them I just had to shoot somebody. They pepper sprayed me.

443
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Speaker 4: I back off, I go back. They tell me to

444
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Speaker 4: go home.

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Speaker 2: Pepper sprayed you?

446
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Speaker 1: Yes?

447
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Speaker 2: Why?

448
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Speaker 4: I I don't know. I don't remember getting pepper sprayd actually,

449
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 4: but I saw it in video. And then I don't

450
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Speaker 4: contest that it didn't happen.

451
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Speaker 2: And so you don't remember how it felt.

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Speaker 4: I remember how it felt from when I showered, but

453
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Speaker 4: I thought it was just a pepper spray from earlier

454
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Speaker 4: in that night washing out, if that makes sense.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how bad is the pepper spray?

456
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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel great?

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Speaker 2: Right? Okay? So how far is your walk home from there?

458
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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: Actually your buddy's house, it dominates sause.

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Speaker 4: We walked back to his car, which was about We

461
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Speaker 4: get back to his car, which is about a block

462
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Speaker 4: and a half away, and then we go back to

463
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Speaker 4: my house in Antiac, which is about a twenty minute

464
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Speaker 4: drive and that is in Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

466
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Speaker 4: And then I turned myself in with my mom at

467
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Speaker 4: the anti apolice department right when I get home because

468
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Speaker 4: Kenosha police they weren't accepting visitors. They were closed.

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Speaker 2: Because of the riots. Yes, okay, how bad was the scene?

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Speaker 2: I mean in addition to what was happening to you?

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, cars, cars are on fire. I mean, is

472
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Speaker 2: this just apocalyptic?

473
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Speaker 4: Is this?

474
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Speaker 2: I mean? How bad is it?

475
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Speaker 4: Everything was on fire? Like it was? It was really

476
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Speaker 4: sad to see see my community burnt to crisp and

477
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Speaker 4: just destroyed. Like there's buildings that were just like that

478
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Speaker 4: were there that were no longer there. And it was

479
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Speaker 4: just sad to say.

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Speaker 2: How many buildings would you say you personally laid eyes

481
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Speaker 2: on that were on fire?

482
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Speaker 4: Three or four?

483
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Speaker 2: Wow?

484
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Speaker 4: And there was millions of dollars in proper damage.

485
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Speaker 2: Like what how would you describe the rioters protesters whatever

486
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Speaker 2: they are, how what were they up to? What was

487
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Speaker 2: their mood? Was it? Was it frenzied? Was it angry? Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put words in your mouth. What

489
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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 4: They're violent.

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Speaker 2: Violent.

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Speaker 4: They were smashing windows, screaming, throwing rocks at the police,

493
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Speaker 4: throwing homemade gas bombs on the roof, pepper sprang people.

494
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Speaker 4: They're very violent.

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Speaker 2: Was there a moment in the middle of all of

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Speaker 2: this where you're thinking they're going to kill me.

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Speaker 4: Well, mister Rosam, I'm the first guy I had to

498
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Speaker 4: defend myself with. He said, I know you said, I

499
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Speaker 4: can't drop the f on the air, so I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: He said to me, I'm going to effing kill you

501
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: if I catch any of you efforts alone, and then

502
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Speaker 4: the second time, I'm going to effing kill you and

503
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: words to that effect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, that is a lot to process. So you

505
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Speaker 2: get home and you got to tell your mom what's happened.

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Speaker 4: I was in such shock. I told her I shot somebody.

507
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Speaker 4: And then we have to go to the police department.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you knew. I've got to go. I

509
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: can't run, I've got to go in. And you knew

510
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Speaker 2: they knew who you were, or it didn't matter if

511
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Speaker 2: they knew who you were. You were prepared to tell

512
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Speaker 2: them your name had not been released at this point,

513
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: because nobody knows who you are correct.

514
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: Wow, well that's not true. I was getting thousands of

515
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: notifications on Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, because people recognize your friends

516
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Speaker 4: and more.

517
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Speaker 2: With Kyle Rittenhouse coming up micro or not, what he

518
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Speaker 2: says speaks to you.

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Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show.

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00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: Our studio guest music Chris Young's Christmas is uh, probably

521
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: not one you'd hear from us often, since we're more

522
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: classic country guys. But he's nineteen and he looks. Sorry,

523
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: but he looks about sixteen. You don't have it. Do

524
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: you actually shave your face or you just you're not

525
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: even growing anything yet?

526
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: No, I say morning.

527
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Speaker 2: I literally didn't have to shave un till I was

528
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Speaker 2: twenty five, but now it comes in strong.

529
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Speaker 4: I want a beard, but I can't grow.

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00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured that. I mean, you look really young.

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Speaker 2: As I said, I didn't prep for this interview because

532
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Speaker 2: I wanted to be like the audience. I wanted no misconceptions,

533
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: no preconceived notions. But I remember when this thing hit

534
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: how young you looked like? Wow? And that really hit home,

535
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: which I think was to your advantage. People really understood

536
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Speaker 2: this is for all intensive purposes, a kid who hadn't

537
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Speaker 2: been out and about I think it's important when we

538
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Speaker 2: remember the young men that we send off to war.

539
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: They're kids. I mean, they were in high school yesterday

540
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: and now they're in the dust of Afghanistan or Iraq

541
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Speaker 2: and those sorts of places and having to make big

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Speaker 2: boy decisions. And they don't have a lifetime of experience.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we've moved past the shootings and the

544
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Speaker 2: firings of shooting. You've got to tell mom. Do you

545
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Speaker 2: call mom or do you tell her at the door?

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Speaker 4: I tell her at the door. My phone was dead

547
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Speaker 4: and I tried to call her, but my phone died

548
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: right before I was able.

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Speaker 2: To Are you crying? Are you in shock? What's what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 4: I was having panic attacks. I was like freaking out.

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: My adrenaline was pumping, like like I was in shock,

553
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: Like I was scared. I was terrified. I was almost

554
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Speaker 4: killed in the streets.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Are you at that moment thinking I can't

556
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Speaker 2: believe I'm going to have to put my mom through this?

557
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Speaker 2: I was.

558
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Speaker 4: I was scared for what the future held. I was like,

559
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Speaker 4: I can't believe this just happened. Like what are we

560
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: gonna do?

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Speaker 2: So you decide with Mom that we're going to turn

562
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Speaker 2: ourselves in Kenosha Police department is closed, So where do

563
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Speaker 2: you go?

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Speaker 4: I go to Antiac Police Department where they call Kenosha

565
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Speaker 4: police and then several hours later detectives come. They mirandize me.

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Speaker 4: I take five. I didn't know Miranda very well. I

567
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Speaker 4: thought I did and I was just seventeen. I thought

568
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Speaker 4: I knew everything in the world at the time. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 4: and then I was like, no, I take it back.

570
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Speaker 4: I want to tell you my story. They're like, no,

571
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Speaker 4: you just pled the fifth?

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Speaker 2: Aren't you glad now you didn't?

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, my attorney said that was probably the smartest, smartest

575
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Speaker 4: thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how long are you there? Do they hold you?

577
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Speaker 2: Do they cuff you? Do they? I guess they process

578
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Speaker 2: you atd intake. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I was there for about fourteen hours at the

580
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Speaker 4: Antia Police moerament and then they decided they were going

581
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Speaker 4: to charge me and arrest me. So I wasn't handcuffed

582
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Speaker 4: at all until I was physically arrested. They took me

583
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Speaker 4: into a booking room, they fingerprinted me, and then I

584
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Speaker 4: had a hearing with a judge where I was denied

585
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Speaker 4: bond at first and then too late, and then I

586
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Speaker 4: was taking a deput Juvenile Detention Center where I was

587
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Speaker 4: thrown in a cell and all by myself, and I

588
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: was scared.

589
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: Told me you wanted to be all by yourself.

590
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I found out I was.

591
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Speaker 2: You wanted to be all by yourself. So there you

592
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Speaker 2: are for hello.

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Speaker 4: I was there for and I forget how long I

594
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: was at dep GEE, but then after dep GI, I

595
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: was transferred to Kenosha County Jail where after my extradition

596
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: hearing and that I was in solitary confinement. I didn't shower.

597
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Speaker 4: I lost so much weight there.

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Speaker 2: How long were you there?

599
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Speaker 4: Eighty seven days?

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Speaker 2: Alone? Oh?

601
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Speaker 1: Wow?

602
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Speaker 2: Is anybody coming to visit you? A lawyer or your mom?

603
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Speaker 4: I was able listen to my lawyer. At dep GY,

604
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Speaker 4: I was alone to myself, but I was allowed in

605
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Speaker 4: the day room supervisor with the guard. They call them

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Speaker 4: youth counselors. They're actually really nice people, the youth counselors there.

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Speaker 2: And they're watching you on TV.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they know who you are, but they know what's

609
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Speaker 4: going on. And they were instructed to not talk to

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Speaker 4: me about what was going on.

611
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what are you thinking at this point?

612
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess part of it is. You have

613
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Speaker 2: to be thinking, this is now how I want my life,

614
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Speaker 2: how I intended my life to turn out right?

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00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: Exactly.

616
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Speaker 2: You got to be scared.

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Speaker 4: I was terrified.

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Speaker 2: You don't really have the tools to process what's happening

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Speaker 2: to you. Do you know what's going on in the

620
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Speaker 2: outside world at this point?

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Speaker 4: No, I have no idea. All I know is I'm

622
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Speaker 4: getting thousands of letters, thousands.

623
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Speaker 2: And what are are those letters? Positive? Negative? Or a mix?

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00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: They were? They were mostly positive. Like, I'm just gonna

625
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: take a second to thank all my supporters who donated,

626
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: continue to donate, who send prayers.

627
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: How does somebody donate you?

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Speaker 4: They donated through a gift sand go to help pay

629
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Speaker 4: and and I llegal fund set up by my former attorneys.

630
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Speaker 2: How does somebody donate to you today?

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Speaker 4: They can go to ridd it www, dot gives, sang Go,

632
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: dot com, forward slash Kyle Riddenhouse and these funds are

633
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Speaker 4: to help pay for the civil lawsuit that I'm currently fighting.

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Speaker 2: You don't ever like buy a water burger with it

635
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: ever so often? Now, okay? If you did, Actually I'm

636
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Speaker 2: more of an in and out guy, are you okay? Well,

637
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: you haven't been in Texas that long, so you can

638
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: still be an in and out guy. Just don't say

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00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: that publicly. How do you order in and out burger?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I get it? Have you heard of animals?

642
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

643
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: Of course I get it like that, but like.

644
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Speaker 2: You say it in a whisper, like I said, like

645
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Speaker 2: a secret. That's how Paris Hilton does it. That's how

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: I first heard that.

647
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Speaker 4: I think that that's how I get my fries animal style.

648
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: I think I don't. I just get it regular double double.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So eighty seven days that's a long

650
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Speaker 2: time for a young man to be in jail and

651
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Speaker 2: you haven't even you know, you don't get a bond.

652
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Speaker 2: You don't get bail, you don't get to go out

653
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Speaker 2: and prep.

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Speaker 4: So two days after I was to client bond, I

655
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: was given bond at Kenosha. But I had to go

656
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Speaker 4: to Kenosha first, okay, and that was two million dollars.

657
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Speaker 2: You have to come up with two hundred thousand.

658
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: No, it's it was full two million. There's no bailbond,

659
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Speaker 4: no ten percent.

660
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Speaker 2: Oh like it was full. So you're stuck in. So

661
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Speaker 2: that's why you're stuck there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then eighty seven days go by, and then

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Speaker 4: thankfully I was able to post bail in Kenosha, where

664
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Speaker 4: I was released.

665
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Speaker 2: And had you ever been outside the US?

666
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: No, I've been to Puerto Rico once, but that's that.

667
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: So I started life as a lawyer. And bonds are

668
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: based on the idea of flight risk, right, And you're

669
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: not a flight risk. Your seventeen year old kid with

670
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: no money who's probably never been outside those two, you know,

671
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: a couple of states. That is ridiculous. Okay, So what

672
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: happens at the end of eighty seven.

673
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Speaker 4: Days I post bail, I'm released.

674
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: So you came up with how much money?

675
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: We were able to raise? Two million dollars in donations okay,

676
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: to pay to pay legal bills and to help post bail.

677
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: And it was amazing.

678
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay? And are you court appointed lawyer at this point?

679
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: No, I was paying for an attorney, attorney, Mark Richards

680
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: and Corey Shrafsi, Okay, phenomenal attorneys. Without them, honestly, it

681
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: would have been near impossible. They're phenomenal. They were smart,

682
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: they're intelligent, they knew the self defense laws and that

683
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: they believed them, and they believed in my case, and

684
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: they were just great.

685
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: At that point. Are you thinking to yourself, I'm going

686
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Speaker 2: to prison for a long time.

687
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: I never thought like that. I knew I was innocent.

688
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: I was hoping the jury got it right, which they did.

689
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: I was scared that they were going to be swayed

690
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: by the media or they were going to be they

691
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: had to be. They didn't offer me no deal.

692
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: They wanted to go to trial.

693
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: They wanted to take it to trial.

694
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: That was a stupid decision, really stupid decision.

695
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have taken a deal.

696
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, but they would have been. They

697
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: had to see that a jury was going to see

698
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: your situation and that you had no alternative and they

699
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: can't win this. But their pride, I guess they thought

700
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: they were. They were going to satisfy a broader audience

701
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: and pin you to the wall, but it didn't work.

702
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: We'll talk more with Kyle Rittenhouse and what happened since,

703
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: take him up to the present and what is in

704
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: store for his future coming up. Kyle Rittenhouse is our

705
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: guests in the studio and he's picking the bump music.

706
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: I want to fast forward away from your case because

707
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm afraid we're not going to have time to get

708
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: to you and we'll come back to your case. Okay, okay,

709
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: and all of that. I got a lot of questions

710
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: from listeners that I told you would be here, and

711
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: I'd just like to ask him and just kind of

712
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: give me if you would a fifteen twenty second. Okay, Debbie,

713
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: as is Kyle safe? Is he living in fear? Is

714
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: he living in hiding?

715
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: Well, Debbie, that's a great question. And right now I'm

716
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: working on getting a new security detail. And sometimes it's

717
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: a little scary out there. I don't really go out.

718
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: I know who my friends are, and I don't really

719
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: travel alone, and I always watch out for my surroundings.

720
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: Lee in Ames, Iowa says, what does a typical day

721
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: in your life look like?

722
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: I wake up, I brush my teeth, and uh, I

723
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: go on social media a little bit and then post

724
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: some things. Uh, hang out with my friends and family,

725
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: study a little bit, pray, and then I take my dog.

726
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: I play with my little my dog, goldern trav a lot.

727
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: I was actually going to bring him, but I don't

728
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: think he wanted a dog running around here in no studio.

729
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: No, we're dog people.

730
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

731
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: You go to school on a gap semester right now?

732
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Okay, do you tell where you go to school, or

733
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: you keep that.

734
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna announce wry I go to school this time?

735
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: No words. Uh, I know where it is and and

736
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: uh most people probably figured it out and that's good.

737
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

738
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Speaker 2: What was the most difficult challenge you've had to overcome

739
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: after that fateful day? What if any epiphanies or moments

740
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: of clarity have you had during this process?

741
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: Figuring out who your real friends and family are, like

742
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: learning their true motives and their intentions, and then learning

743
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: to cut ties with them in that it being okay

744
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: to take a break from that.

745
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: Life's too short for negative people and people you're in

746
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: a situation where you have to ask people for a

747
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: big It's a big ask, right stand by me in

748
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: my time of toughness, even though all your friends are

749
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: going to say I'm a monster. And that's when you learn.

750
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Most people will never have the opportunity to separate the

751
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: wheat from the chaff, but you had it at an

752
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: early age. Mark asks, most of us gun owners think

753
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: we'd be able to take a life and have no

754
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: problem with it afterwards. I don't believe that would be

755
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: the case. How has this affected you?

756
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: It's not easy. It haunts me every night. I wake

757
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: up in cold sweats. I have nightmares from what I

758
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: had to do to save my own life. And it's

759
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: a tragic situation on all ends, and it's hard. It's difficult.

760
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: But talking to people like talking to it their past helps.

761
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: Has Kyle received public support, words of support from the

762
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: business owner who requested his involvement. Now, No, So this

763
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: guy asks you to come down, and you do, and

764
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't. He's not there getting shot at, threatened and

765
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: guns pointed at him, and yet he's not supporting the guy.

766
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you had no alternative? Has Oh asked that

767
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: one already? What are Kyle's days like? Now? Can he

768
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: go even five minutes with having this shooting incident without

769
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: having this incident in his mind?

770
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes? But it's hard, it's hard to not constantly be

771
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: thinking about it, if that makes sense, Yep.

772
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: Ask Kyle how the lawsuits are progressing. He's going to

773
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: be a wealthy man.

774
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 4: We haven't filed any lawsuits yet. We're working on filing

775
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: some soon. We're currently fighting a of a litigation which

776
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: has taken up a lot of time.

777
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: Or for that, what's the most unfair part of this process?

778
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: To you.

779
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: I think it's unfair that people people won't learn and

780
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: take take the time to learn about the case. But

781
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: they're okay writing a tweet calling me a murderer racist,

782
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: but they won't actually take the time to get to

783
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 4: know me. I think that's the most unfair part of

784
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: it all, that they're just willing to say whatever they're

785
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: told and not take a minute of their day to

786
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: actually research the facts and the evidence of the trial.

787
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure I knew it at the time, but I haven't.

788
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: As I said, I made it a point not to

789
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: go back Kyle Rittenhouse is our guests not to go

790
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: back and look at any details, because I wanted to

791
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: start fresh. Was one of your get was one of

792
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: your was one of the people you shot?

793
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: Black?

794
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: No? So even if you were a racist, why why

795
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: are you being called a racist?

796
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: I have no idea why they call me a racist.

797
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: I think it's them trying to push their own agenda

798
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: and make everything about race when it has nothing to

799
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: do with race.

800
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a real interesting phenomenon. What would you guess

801
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: the racial makeup of the rioters was when you were

802
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: down there?

803
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: Predominantly white?

804
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: Predominantly white, like Antifa tite folks. Yes, wow, would you

805
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: do it again? Would you go to that place again?

806
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: Would you go to that place.

807
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: Again facing civil litigation?

808
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll leave that alone. As I said, I don't

809
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: want you to say something you're not supposed to say.

810
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm very, very well aware. I started life as a lawyer.

811
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: Patrick says, ask him what he wants to be when

812
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: he grows up. What does Kyle Rittenhouse want to be

813
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: when he grows up?

814
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: Well? Now, I want to be an advocate for people.

815
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: I want to be an advocate for free speech to

816
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: the Second Amendment, and just to get my word out there,

817
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: to tell my story and to encourage other people and

818
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: just like if that makes sense, like advocates advocate for

819
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: other people who may have to defend themselves or in

820
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: a similar situation. My other passion is flying. I love planes.

821
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: I love flying. I'm actually a pilot school right now,

822
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: so that's what I do in my free time. I

823
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: study that at ground school. Okay, are you certified yet?

824
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: I have my student pilot license, but that's about it.

825
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm not able to like fly people. If approved, I

826
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: can fly solo. I haven't done a solo flight yet.

827
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: Though, okay. If it proved means you're not approved yet.

828
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: My flight instructor would have to give me the okay.

829
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So listen to this email and I want to

830
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: see how you respond. Tzar, that's my nickname, is the

831
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: Star off talk. I'd like to ask Kyle how his

832
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: family's doing. Have they had to move or change their names?

833
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: What about the friend he went to the riot with.

834
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're all in safe places. I'm sure the whole

835
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: ordeal was a men to strain on everyone. I'd like

836
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: Kyle to know how much I admire him for his

837
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: bravery and going to the right and his action since then.

838
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Many would not stand up to the pressure. I've prayed

839
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 2: for him so many times, and God surely has his back.

840
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Bless Kyle and his family and his friends. My grandson

841
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: in Kansas is sixteen. He looks so much like Kyle

842
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: at the time of his trial that I spoke to

843
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: my son about it. I wanted them to be aware

844
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: in case someone thought it was Kyle or tried to

845
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: mess with him. Fortunately that never happened. Thank you for

846
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: having Kyle on for an update. He's forever in our hearts.

847
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: Is it? I don't want to give you the words.

848
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: But how is it to know that people that you

849
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: will never meet or praying for you?

850
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: It's very off left. I definitely feel the prayers every

851
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: day and I feel the spirit and it pranks joy

852
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: and happiness knowing that there are people out there that

853
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: care about me and love me and pray for me,

854
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: and it just makes me happy.

855
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Prior to Kenosha, have you ever experienced other stressful situations?

856
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: If yes, could you elaborate.

857
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: When I was a lifeguard, I had somebody on my

858
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: on my deck who stopped breathing and I had to

859
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: I was working by myself. It was the front desk lady,

860
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: me and the manager for camp. And what happened is

861
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: he did I looked behind me and he started agniral breathing,

862
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: meaning he was like the snoring sound the rattle, and

863
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: I had to clear the pool and then we had

864
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: to help him and save him. He came back and

865
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Speaker 4: then he started agniral breathing when the paramedics got there,

866
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 4: and then I don't know what happened after that.

867
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Speaker 2: Kyle Rittenhouse is our guest in studio, coming up.

868
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Speaker 1: Live last doing it Big on the Michael Berry Showyle.

869
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Speaker 2: Rittenhouse is our guest, and yes, he picked this as

870
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: his bump song as well, without knowledge of my love

871
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: for Elvis. We're not really sure. How did you come

872
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: up with hound Dog by Elvis? Is this like a

873
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: nod to your grandmother?

874
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: No? I was healing Elvis. I saw the new Elvis movie.

875
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what'd you think of it? You know there

876
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: was a correct answer, as I hated it, because if

877
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 2: you love Elvis, you hate the movie. But that's okay,

878
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: go ahead. You probably like Tom Hanks.

879
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: The movie was an eye opener to see what the

880
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 4: colonel did.

881
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Elvis is a monster. Who would play.

882
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: I don't know who?

883
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: Do you?

884
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: Who do you think?

885
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't know Ramon? Who would scholar? What do you think?

886
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: His girlfriend's here with him? Who should play him in

887
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: the movie? There's Pratt? I don't he's a modern actor,

888
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: but you can't say Leonardo DiCaprio for everybody, and Leonardo

889
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: DiCaprio is too old for him to do. Look at

890
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: him it, dude, looks like twelve. It's got to be

891
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: Scoby one of these young actors.

892
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 4: Ryan Reynolds, You know Ryan Reynolds all time for Reynolds

893
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: looks nothing like me.

894
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: What's the kid's name. Remember the TV show Ramon It

895
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: started with one is a only his number that you

896
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: remember that TV show? It was this kid he had.

897
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: He had this like a really really young face. Look

898
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: a really young Frankie Valley Stranger Things. Yeah, the kid

899
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: from Stranger Things. How about that?

900
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't watch Stranger Things.

901
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: He's nineteen, Romon, He's not. You have to remember he's nineteen.

902
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: He's he's closer to your preschool son's age than he

903
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: is yours by quite some distance. This was a lot

904
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: to process for a seventeen year old who is now

905
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: are you looking him up? He's looking him up. That's

906
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: what they do now, kids, look stuff up? Why move

907
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: to Texas?

908
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: Texas is a great state, Like the people here are great,

909
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: the barbecue is great, and I honestly think this is

910
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: the safest place for me to live currently.

911
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite barbecue joint in Houston or

912
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: in Texas?

913
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: There's this place I like Cooper's Barbecue. There's this other

914
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 4: place I forget where it was in Dallas is really good.

915
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Dallas doesn't have a good barbecue. I shouldn't say that

916
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: because we have an affiliate in Dallas. But Houstonians are

917
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: very proud of our barbecue. I see, Oh is that?

918
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: Who is that?

919
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: That's me?

920
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Holy wow. How old were you in

921
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: this picture?

922
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: I was about fifteen.

923
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: You look like a google. Oh my goodness, he's got

924
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: these big glasses on hermone Come look at this. This

925
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: is awesome. Man. Show that to a jury. Who is

926
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: this kid that they they're comparing you to?

927
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: That's Ralphie from a Christmas story.

928
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 2: Oh that's why they say that. Look at this pretty good.

929
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: Now that photo has never been shown to anybody.

930
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you should. I would have shown that as

931
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: your defense. Wow, you got your little police officer, you

932
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: little police officer. Fella. Could you see yourself ever being

933
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: a police officer?

934
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: That ain'tmore.

935
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: No, I couldn't do it.

936
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't the police. What the police go through on

937
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: a daily basis, You know, it's not correct. What'd ever choose?

938
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: And I'm thankful for whoever chooses that job. But I

939
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: can't blame the people who don't, and I can't blame

940
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: the officers who are getting out of it.

941
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: My brother was an over thirty year police officer. He

942
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: passed in January twenty fifth of the year, he's still

943
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: active duty. And he said he had retired from his

944
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: first job as a sheriff's deputy and then went to

945
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: work for a smaller department. And he said, you know,

946
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go into it again. And he all he

947
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: ever wanted to be was a cop. I mean from

948
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: when we were little kids. He hunted and he fished

949
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: and wanted to be a cop and that was his passion,

950
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: his dream. He said. It's not the same as it

951
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: used to be. The support for the officers, the respect

952
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: for the officers. You know, bad guys will walk up,

953
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's just it has dramatically changed. Michael writes,

954
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: mister Rittenhouse, are you still able to visualize the shots

955
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: that took out your attackers or is it a blur

956
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: as it's often described.

957
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm not going to count on that one.

958
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I told you I'm good with that. Uh.

959
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: Is it easier to pick up ladies this? Is it

960
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: easier to pick up ladies, ladies or get a date

961
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 2: since the incident?

962
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

963
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: Well, I only have my eyes for one person time,

964
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: so no, I'm not looking.

965
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: When you go to places. This is not a listener question.

966
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: When you go to places and people want to take

967
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: a photo with you. Why do you think they want

968
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: to take a photo with you, I don't know.

969
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: Because they support me, and maybe they want to show

970
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: their friends or have a memory that they met me.

971
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. And also because you're famous,

972
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: all right, So it's it's if you're famous. I mean,

973
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, you are famous.

974
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: It took a very long time to realize that. And

975
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: some days I still don't think I'm famous, and then

976
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: I have to get reminded that a lot of people

977
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: know who I am. And it's a weird I It's

978
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: it's very weird. Will you write a book maybe maybe

979
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 4: maybe in the future.

980
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Tell me somebody famous who reached out to you that

981
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: meant a lot to you, that they lent their support.

982
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: Brian Urlacker, I know he said, sport Donald Trump.

983
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: Well hold on, we'll get to Trump. Brian Lacker reached

984
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: out to you.

985
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 4: He didn't reach out to me directly, but he said

986
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 4: something in an interview or something.

987
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: If you live in Wisconsin, one of the greatest Chicago

988
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: Bears of all time reaching out to you or reaching

989
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: out to your I think he posted.

990
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 4: All I'm not a heart professor, but I know he

991
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: either reached out to my family or he posted something

992
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: on Twitter.

993
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: If we could make that happen, that'd be super cool.

994
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: And you know what what you'd have to do, because

995
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: you don't want to just be like hi, mister Lacker.

996
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ky written as well, you know, proud of you,

997
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: young man hanging in there. You'll do your best. You

998
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: want him to agree to stand still with his feet flat,

999
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: not one in front of the other, steep feet flat,

1000
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: and you get a fifteen yard running headstart, and you

1001
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: get to hit him and see if you can take

1002
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: him out. I'm serious, Its memorable.

1003
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: I'd break my shoulder problem and.

1004
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: We film it. I did that to Marcus Latrell without

1005
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: him knowing it was coming, and I lifted him off

1006
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: the ground just a little bit, and then when his

1007
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: feet came back, he spun around in the same motion

1008
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: and took me in threw me down, and it hurt

1009
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: like hell. But I was extraordinarily drunk, and I've remembered

1010
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: it for the rest of my life. Please ask mister Rittenhouse.

1011
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: This was a common one. I'm only pulling some of

1012
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: the random ones, but there were a lot that asked

1013
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: this question. Please ask mister Rittenhouse. Is it difficult to

1014
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: go anywhere in public, like do things like grocery shopping

1015
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: or go out to eat?

1016
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is.

1017
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: Is it difficult because you weren't a public person and

1018
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: now you are and these people are recognizing you and

1019
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: it's odd for you and Skyler or whoever you're with

1020
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: because you just kind of want a moment. Is it

1021
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 2: difficult because they're saying nasty things? Is it difficult because

1022
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: now you have to fear that someone else is going

1023
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: to hear it and they're gonna go, Ah, I don't

1024
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: like that. I'm gonna cause it problems.

1025
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: All the above. It gets awkward at times because like

1026
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: I'll be on a date and then it's it's a

1027
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 4: little it's really awkward if somebody comes up to your

1028
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: table and I I've never met a lot of the people,

1029
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: and I'm thankful for everybody's support. But one of the

1030
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: things somebody told me is they know who you are,

1031
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: but you don't know who then they are. Ye, so

1032
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to get used to it and like, yeah,

1033
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: like they know your story, they know your background. You

1034
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: may know nothing about them well.

1035
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: And typically you don't yeah, yeah, no, it's you may

1036
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: not want to answer this, but I'm gonna ask it

1037
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: since they did ask him why he fired Lynn, would

1038
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going to kind of got that Donald Trump

1039
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: reached out tell me about that.

1040
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Donald Trump invited me to mar a Lago.

1041
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: He may was that the time, you know, you do

1042
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: before oh you're a oh look at you, mister hotshot.

1043
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: You've been multiple times. How did that call come in?

1044
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: Did he make the call himself? I was in Florida.

1045
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: It was right after my quado. Donald Trump was like, yeah,

1046
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: Kyle's in Florida, bring him over to mar Lago. I

1047
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: don't directly, I don't exactly remember how it came about,

1048
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: but somebody was like, you want to meet Trump? And

1049
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: I was like, yes, yep, and and he.

1050
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: Was publicly supportive of you. I mean, look, I don't

1051
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: tell you anything you don't already know. But nobody is

1052
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: saying grab a gun and go run into a crowd

1053
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: on any given day. But the situation was whether someone

1054
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: agrees you should have been there or not. At that moment,

1055
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: you either protect yourself or you die. And anyone else,

1056
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: if put in that situation, would necessarily make that decision

1057
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: or not survive the moment, and so anyone that's really

1058
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: what people and the fact that you were you were

1059
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: so unfairly attacked. I think that's it's the idea that

1060
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: we better get behind this guy, imperfect or not, because

1061
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: it could happen to anyone. With Kyle Rittenhouse coming up

1062
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: with Michael Barry Show, I know, I like, say, Kyle

1063
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: Rittenhouse is our guest in studio and he's picking the

1064
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: Bump songs and it turns out that he is a

1065
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: big Elvis fan. Where do you get that from your mom?

1066
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just like I like how he sings.

1067
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: I like the classical music part.

1068
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: You talked to your mom much on occasion. How often

1069
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: does this come up in y'all's conversations?

1070
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: What happened that day.

1071
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: Depends a couple of times a week, once a week.

1072
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: It depends on what's going on. I don't know.

1073
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: Is it more an update of what's happened since and

1074
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: what's going on in relation to them? How much of

1075
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: your day today is still driven I mean, you've been

1076
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: named in civil lawsuits. How much of your day to

1077
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: day is still driven by those few seconds?

1078
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 4: A majority A majority of my day.

1079
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Is how much of When you're watching a television show

1080
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: and you see a scene that might be in some

1081
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: odd way related, whether it's shootings or whatever else, do

1082
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: you go, that's not what it's like.

1083
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: Not much on that.

1084
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Are you offered business opportunities, a gun in your name,

1085
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: speaking opportunities, books, appearances. I have to think that people

1086
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: would want I mean, look, we were fast. We haven't

1087
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: been this excited to talk to anyone in a long time.

1088
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: Not because you're famous. We talk to famous people all

1089
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: day every day. But it's interesting to see how it

1090
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: changes you and what you learn. And I have a

1091
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: big theory that I find people to be far more

1092
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: interesting after they've been knocked down. You know, somebody that's

1093
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: had nothing but success. I want to see you fail.

1094
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: I want to see you put under stress. I want

1095
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: to see the world turned upside down and you want

1096
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: to kill yourself and you come out of that. Now

1097
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: you're interesting to me. Now what did you learn from

1098
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: that moment? And so that's why I wanted to talk

1099
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: to you.

1100
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I've been offered a speech speaking engagement. I

1101
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: actually recently spoke to the Second Amendment Caucus and Washington

1102
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: d C. I gave them a speech and hold you

1103
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: write it yourself?

1104
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: How do you you haven't done this before? You're just nineteen,

1105
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: your high school dropout as a freshman, you know, and

1106
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: here I am speaking? Had you? Did you know how

1107
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: to structure a speech?

1108
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 4: I honestly had no idea, just wing it. I didn't

1109
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: wing it. My girlfriend is really smart with that, and

1110
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: she actually helped me write it.

1111
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Really, she helped me. Okay, all right, so.

1112
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to give her a little bit of credit

1113
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: on them.

1114
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, how long was this speech?

1115
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: It was about a fifteen minute speech?

1116
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: And how did you do?

1117
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 4: I missed a page at the end, okay, But other

1118
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 4: than that, I did really well. I think they said

1119
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 4: I did good? Right, I feel like I did poor

1120
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: because I missed a page?

1121
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Uh huh? And then did they take photos with you afterwards?

1122
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: They did? Have you perfected? Which is your better side?

1123
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: And how to smile by looking at photos that you're

1124
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: in after a while, because most people do that?

1125
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 4: Do I have a good side?

1126
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Everybody does? I let me tell you something. Beyonce knows

1127
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: which side she looks better on, and she'll make sure

1128
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: you're on that side. Yeah, I'm serious. I mean, Trump

1129
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: knows which side he's better, especially because he's got his

1130
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 2: his hairs comb to the side. Yep. Tell me about

1131
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: the meeting with Trump. You went to Borlago.

1132
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really fun. He gave me some advice,

1133
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 4: he said, don't let the media get me down, and

1134
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: we just talked. I just told him my story and

1135
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: he was just and wow. He was like, he was like,

1136
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: I can't believe they did that to you. And he

1137
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: apologized for what they put me through. And then we

1138
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: had food. We had I had a burger and fries

1139
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: U U and I.

1140
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: It was such a seventeen year old thing to do

1141
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: when you're sitting with the president, and it was it was.

1142
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 4: It was an experience. And you know, mar A Lago

1143
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: is so beautiful. The Rose Garden we had to walk

1144
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 4: through to get to the movie premiere.

1145
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: Yep, it was it was really Did you go in

1146
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: the disco and you see the disco, Yeah, where you

1147
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: went for the movie premiere. On the backside of that

1148
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: is is he has his own disco, and so you

1149
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: go downstairs. You know when you're out at the pool.

1150
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: When you walk out of the of the restaurant, there's

1151
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: the pool right there to the left, there's glass and

1152
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: that's the disco all over there. It's glory. I didn't

1153
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: know that.

1154
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he loves it.

1155
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: He shows up there. He shows up there on occasion.

1156
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: I brought a group with Buck Saxton, who's a talk

1157
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: show host, and Carol Markowitz who's a great writer, and gosh,

1158
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: what's Josh's last name? I can't believe I'm forgetting his

1159
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: name right. He's the editor for Newsweek. I'm gonna remember

1160
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: it as soon as we stopped talking about it. But anyway,

1161
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: we did an event there and he invited our whole

1162
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: group afterwards to go back to the disco, which was

1163
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

1164
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.

1165
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: It's a cool property. Who else, who else reached out

1166
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: to you? We got to make this Arlacker. We mostly

1167
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: have to make the Urlacker connection happen because I want

1168
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: to meet Urlacker. Yeah, the guy.

1169
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

1170
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if he reached out, but he There's

1171
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: a lot of people on Twitter, a lot of very

1172
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: cool people on Twitter, like who I forget his name?

1173
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: He played? He played in the movie Soul Surfer.

1174
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Do you know Ramon Skyler is gonna know? Okay?

1175
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green?

1176
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love him.

1177
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green. She's been very supportive.

1178
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to fight her.

1179
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: No.

1180
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen her cross training workouts? No?

1181
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: I have it.

1182
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: They're intense. You know, my doctor told me that the

1183
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: emergency room visits by cross training workout folks are high

1184
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: because of the crazy workouts they do. If you see

1185
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: her workouts, they are intense. And that woman she can out,

1186
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: she can out bench press you and me too, and ramon,

1187
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: that is one tough chick for sure. Who else expressed.

1188
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: Support publicly that you recall, Laura Overt, Congressman Massey. A

1189
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of amazing politicians out there that

1190
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: are fighting for.

1191
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: Their politicians, I would expect because there are votes to gain.

1192
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm and this is I'm not saying they shouldn't,

1193
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: but I am more impressed by movie stars and things

1194
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: like that because in their little circle, you know, you

1195
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: can't do that. When Michelle Obama chose to say such

1196
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: nasty things about you that, as you've said earlier, are

1197
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: not true, how'd you feel about that?

1198
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: I was really upset. And then when Joe Biden, our president,

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Speaker 4: said those inflammatory things about me, using me in his

1200
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: campaign ad, calling me out white nationalists. Was it was

1201
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: really upsetting knowing that somebody could stoop that load to

1202
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: use a seventeen year old as the front page of

1203
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: their political ad to get votes.

1204
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: Well, and that it's not true. Is what is so

1205
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: bothersome that you can literally say anything about someone as

1206
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: long as it's the same. They could have claimed you

1207
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: were a Russian agent. They could have claimed you were

1208
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: a polluter. They of course said you were a racist.

1209
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: They could have claimed you were transphobic, homophobic, islamophobic. It's

1210
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: it's as if there is a ready made audience that

1211
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: they are shoveling this sahi, that they're shoveling this too,

1212
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: and they're ready to lap it up. And they don't care.

1213
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: They don't ask questions, they don't they don't want to know,

1214
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: They don't want to research and find out. Is Kyle

1215
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: Rittenhouse a good guy, a bad guy, a little of both,

1216
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: some of neither. Ritten how's our guest in studio for

1217
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: our last time? We're coming up to.

1218
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: Lucky You. The Michael Berry Show continues Lucky Day.

1219
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Yes it is in fact The Michael Berry Show, and

1220
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: yes we are playing a justin Christmas song. It's a

1221
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: different kind of day. What can I say? Kyle Rittenhouse

1222
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: is in studio and he's picking the bumps. Although this

1223
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: one he tossed to his girlfriend Skyler and said, Skyler,

1224
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: pick a Christmas I mean pick a bump song. She said,

1225
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: a Justin Bieber Christmas song, and Ramona and I protested,

1226
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: but Ramona has kind of I'm not allowed to tell

1227
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: you all this because he's embarrassed. But Ramona said, I

1228
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: actually kind of halfway like this song. Wow, it's a

1229
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: different day, it's a different time. You know. If I

1230
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: were making fun of private school white kids like at

1231
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: the mall, I would say, Okay, Kyle, all right, skylery'

1232
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: one of the last two people that I would ever

1233
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: expect to be sitting here having been through all the

1234
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: stuff you go through. Although Skyler signed up for this,

1235
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: she wasn't your girlfriend at the time. You're nineteen, she's eighteen.

1236
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: How'd you meet her?

1237
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: It's a walk story. She makes conservative stuff on Instagram

1238
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: and TikTok, so I decided to add her on Snapchat

1239
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: and we started talking and we agreed on a lot

1240
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 4: of things. We were both pro life and Christian and

1241
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 4: believe in the Second Amendment, and we just clicked and

1242
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: I actually invited her to mar A Lago and I

1243
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: think you met her there. I think she took our picture.

1244
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she took our picture with Laura Logan's boobs. No, seriously,

1245
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: like Laura Logan's boob that that picture went very, very

1246
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: very viral. Yeah, you're in the background, Yes they are.

1247
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: They are ample bosoms, shall we say? And Skyler. I

1248
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: did not know Skyler took that picture. I thought we

1249
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: took that picture. I'm not sure how that ended up

1250
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: in our system because we get emails and people sending

1251
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: us stuff all the time. But it turns out your

1252
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: your girlfriend took the picture, and there you go. Jimmy

1253
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: asks Zar ask mister Rittenhouse, what are your goals for

1254
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: the next chapter in your life? What are your goals?

1255
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a short term goal.

1256
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 4: I really want to I want to do some speaking agents.

1257
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 4: I want to tell my story right, and I want

1258
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 4: to speak to like I want to get really really

1259
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 4: good at speaking to an audience, and maybe started a

1260
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: podcast and maybe in the future write a book. And

1261
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: there are some of my short term girls goals. And

1262
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 4: finish my private pilot license.

1263
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: That's important. That's important. Do people ask you for advice

1264
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: in areas that you have no expertise, and go, why

1265
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: are you asking me this?

1266
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes? I'm I'm nineteen, and I don't think I can

1267
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: really offer anybody holder than me any advice because I

1268
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 4: still have like I have. Like I'm nineteen, I'm young,

1269
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm still learning. I don't know half the stuff that

1270
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: people older than me know.

1271
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: So do you feel like in some ways you missed

1272
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: out on a couple of years of your life?

1273
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, I believe my childhood was robbed for me.

1274
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: I believe I won't have experiences that other people my

1275
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 4: age will.

1276
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: Do you think it made you cynical? No?

1277
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think these are This is what

1278
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 4: God gave me. This is the life God had planned

1279
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: out for me, and I just have to live it

1280
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: to the best the best I can, and I'm doing

1281
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,479
Speaker 4: my best to live a great life.

1282
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: I had heard somewhere, and as I said, I did

1283
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: not go back and research you. I didn't want to.

1284
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: I wanted this to all be fresh. Kyle Rittenhouse is

1285
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: our guest in studio with Skyler, his girlfriend. But as

1286
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: I understood it, you were not exactly some right wing

1287
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: conservative before that day. Where were you? What positions had

1288
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: you taken, if any as a seventeen year.

1289
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: Old, I didn't really take a position. I liked Trump,

1290
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 4: but at the time I didn't care, if that makes sense.

1291
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: But I remember at the time there was like, you know,

1292
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: he was a Black Lives Matter guy, or he was

1293
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: a something he was I can't remember whatever it was.

1294
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: It was. You're making this guy out to be a

1295
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: off hitler and he's closer to being you know, aclu.

1296
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: I just remember there was some had you been a

1297
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: part of some organization or you'd spoken you weren't exactly

1298
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: conservative listen, but very few seventeen year olds are.

1299
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 4: I well, I was conservative. I conservative vise. I believe

1300
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: in the Second Amendment. I believe free speech. But I

1301
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: think what you're saying about the Black Lives matter, I

1302
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: believe in black lives mattering. I believe everybody has the

1303
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: right to protest and demonstrate demonstrate peacefully. And that's where

1304
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: I think you're bringing that in from a Tucker Carlson interview.

1305
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay, how was that? That was great?

1306
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: I really like Tucker. Tucker is very supportive and he's

1307
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: given me a lot of great advice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing I like about Tucker is he really

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Speaker 2: doesn't care who likes or doesn't like his opinion. He

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Speaker 2: gives thought to things and then he expresses himself. And

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Speaker 2: I think he expresses himself very well at what he does.

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Speaker 2: And he's not afraid to take up a position even

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Speaker 2: today that even if a majority of his audience may

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Speaker 2: not like it, he is willing to speak out on

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Speaker 2: things and to take up your case when I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks wouldn't. And I admire him for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the other thing is I've learned

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Speaker 4: to be that's trusting in people, Like I learned people

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Speaker 4: aren't very trustworthy and that I have to really watch

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Speaker 4: who I associate with, watch people I surround myself around

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Speaker 4: because I don't know what alterior motive they may have.

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Speaker 4: Like I've been screwed over by a lot of people

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Speaker 4: and I'm just starting to get my life on track

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Speaker 4: and figure things out, and I've learned to not be

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Speaker 4: as trusting.

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Speaker 2: Fame, celebrity, notoriety, infamy, whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: it creates. It creates something that for a very young man,

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Speaker 2: and this being very new to you, can leave you

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Speaker 2: feeling a little cheated afterwards, because people do they want

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Speaker 2: something out of you. We wanted you, We wanted you

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Speaker 2: to come here and tell your story because we and

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Speaker 2: our audience want to hear it. Everybody needs something from

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Speaker 2: you now, and you have something to give them. And

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Speaker 2: you know what I think, just getting to know you

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Speaker 2: a little better, is that when you have nothing to

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Speaker 2: give that people want right now, which is tell your

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Speaker 2: story that will and no one wants to know it anymore,

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Speaker 2: that's when you'll achieve pure peace because that'll be the

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Speaker 2: moment that you can move on and talk about other things.

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Speaker 2: Because at some point, Kyle Rittenhouse is bigger than a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes in Kenosha, Right At some point, Kyle

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Speaker 2: Rittenhouse the pilot, or Kyle Rittenhouse the guy who likes

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Speaker 2: to protect people, or Kyle Rittenhouse the fan of Elvis,

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Speaker 2: those aspects of your life have to come out and

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Speaker 2: become what your life is. But for now, you know,

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Speaker 2: you've got lawsuits and fame and people with questions and

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Speaker 2: a story that needs to be told. And that's, you know,

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Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future, that's still going to be a

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Speaker 2: big part of what you have to do. Take one minute,

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Speaker 2: and you wanted to make sure that you thanked the

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: people who've supported you all along. This has been a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of fun. It's been very enlightening, very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I leave this with a very high regard for the

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Speaker 2: young man you have been in r But more importantly,

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Speaker 2: I think you have a huge, huge future ahead of

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Speaker 2: you and whatever you do. But you wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure that you closed with the thanks to those that

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Speaker 2: have supporting you, So I'll give you a minute to death.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you everybody for your support, your prayers, your letters,

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Speaker 4: defending me on social media to other people. I know

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Speaker 4: those Twitter arguments can get rough sometimes, donating and just

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Speaker 4: helping me, like defending me when I can't defend myself,

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Speaker 4: especially during the trial, like defending my public image. And

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Speaker 4: thank you to the Independent journalist. Thank you to you

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Speaker 4: for having me on, and thank you to the people

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Speaker 4: who are willing to listen and listen to my story

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Speaker 4: for what it's told, and the people who are currently

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Speaker 4: helping me fight this civil lawsuit. Gives sang Goo www

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Speaker 4: dot gives sang Goo Ford slash Kyle Rittenhouse, the people

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Speaker 4: who donated there, you can leave a prayer up there,

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Speaker 4: and I get really inspired every time I read those messages.

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Speaker 4: I go through all of them.

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Speaker 2: I read the prayers. Kyle Rittenhouse. Thank you. If you

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Speaker 2: like the Michael Berry Show in podcast, please tell one friend,

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Speaker 2: or simply by clicking on our website, Michael Berryshow dot com.

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Speaker 2: The King of Ding. Executive producer is Chad Nakanishi. Jim

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Speaker 2: Mudd is the creative director. Voices Jingles, Tomfoolery and Shenanigans

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Speaker 2: are provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.

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Speaker 2: appreciated and often incorporated into our production. Where possible, we

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Speaker 2: give credit, where not, we take all the credit for ourselves.

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Speaker 2: God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,

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Speaker 2: be a simple man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and

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Speaker 2: God bless America. Finally, if you know a veteran suffering

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Speaker 2: from PTSD. Call Camp Hope at eight seven seven seven

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