1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: R and B Money. We are thank Valotility. We are 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the authority on all things R and B ladies and gentlemen. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: I named Tank Valentine. This is R and B Money 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Podcast is the authority on all things R and B. See, 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: y'all thought we was old. Y'all thought we wasn't tapped 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: in with the youth. You understand what I'm saying. Relax, Relax, 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: you know what. It's still tapped in with the youth movement. 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: The Undercurta is moving this thing. Our bright future is 9 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: in the building. We're talking about talent off the charts, 10 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: beauty off the charts. She's got everything happening, and we're 11 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna get it to her. I said youthful because I 12 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: am youthful, because youth is in the building. Give it up. Yeah, 13 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: how you doing. 14 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: I'm good. I feel great. 15 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: I've just been in such a chill place. I know 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: when I came in here, You're like, you came in 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: here all chill. But that's how I am. Life is 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: just good and I feel happy. I don't get too excited. 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't get sad so much anymore. I'm just yelling just. 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Kind of good balance. Yeah, as you can see, I'm 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm always happy. Yeah, and we're happy to have you here. 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy to be here. 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for you know, taking the time, you know, 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: because I know you're moving and grooving. The last time 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I saw you, you know, you was you was in Paris, 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: just you know, just you know, just just doing your 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: things life when you're fashion, you know what I'm saying, 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: being the life of the party. We were at a 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: at a party. We were at Kanye's party. 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, out there and yeah it was interesting. 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting is a great word. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: It was definitely interesting. 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: It was a great word. 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't, but you know me, I was in and out. 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was. I was there, you know, my 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: kids were second choir and prior of the show. And 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: then there was a rave. 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Then there was a rave. The dji a raver, but 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: not that rave. 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. The DJs were fire though. 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: No, the dj was cool. 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: They had like because they had like I guess like, but. 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't. 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: I didn't even stay long enough to like actually experience 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: what the DJs were doing. To be quite honest, I 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: just like I was also exhausted because I was out 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: there for a while too, So I was just like 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: I just came to people scene. 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were just in Paris for a minute, just 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: relaxing because I. 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: Don't get to spend much time out there, I feel like, 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: because I'm always working and I have things here to do, 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: like in the States, so I don't get to go 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: to Europe a lot, maybe like once a year maybe, 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: so especially since like COVID and all of that. 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: So it was really nice to be out there and. 57 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: Just experience all the restaurants and see some friends that 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a while. 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: And how many times have you been to Paris? 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: Three? 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Three times? And what do you how do you feel? 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Because I know as an R and B singer, you 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like going out there and and 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and especially in that overseas market, like they're like there's 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: a different kind of love, oh yeah, and appreciation for 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: what we do over there. And I didn't go with 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: my younger. 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: Years, I think in Europe honestly, in a lot of places. 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: I just did like a couple back to back interviews 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: yesterday with some Asian markets and outlets out there, and 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: like I think because there's so many different genres of 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: music here like in the States, and artists like so 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: many more artists here. I don't know, maybe I'm like 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: speaking just pretymaturely. 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: But. 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: There's just such a different level of appreciation for music overseas. 77 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: I feel like here in the States. 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: We're just used to it, we expect it, we get 79 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: over it quickly, and I. 80 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Mean we created it. 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like in in Europe, like in London, in Paris, 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: like when they get us, they're like, please don't leave 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: or like and they just like are more focused on 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but like even in 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: London too, like just when I'm when I have worked 86 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: in London with producers and songwriters out there, it's just 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: like a. 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Different level of like focus that they have. 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we what's my guy? What was you talking about? 90 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Was it Dave? Dave Russell? Wasn't Dave Russell from England engineer, 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: but just he's this guy? And then is Richard first 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: from London, Teresa's guy. 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's from London, but he's from UK, 94 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: from the UK for sure. 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: But like even just a different appreciate, different appreciation, different 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: approach to like how they sonically make. 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: Things fixed, I mean low key, they're kind of killing 98 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: it when it comes to like the music. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: And then even there, even they don't fire. 100 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I'm wondering when they're gonna let a 101 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: black American play in English? Black Englishman. 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Gotta nil that? Is that going to happen? You gotta 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: nail that accent? 104 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: As Americans, we are spoiled. 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because here's the thing, right, so we don't as 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: as the spoiled speaks. Right as the spoiled speaks, we 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: don't necessarily take that big of an interest in other cultures, 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because we're we're in a 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: we're in a sense we've always, in a sense, been 110 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: at the forefront. We've been the leaders of it. You 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in terms of culture and swag 112 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and all of these things, and entertainment for that matter. 113 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Denzel could have been James Bond. 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Denzel is also Jesus. So you're 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: asking them wrong. I'm biased. 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: You know what wants? Maybe did he want? 117 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: Did he Denzel? Did you want to be James Bond? 118 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I saw Another Night. You know what I'm saying. 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: You niggas was already talking about Paris. 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about No, mean, I didn't. 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Washington. 122 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't with him. Okay, let me correct that. I 123 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: I hung out with him before shout out to Jamie Fox. 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was in the right 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: room and he was over there and sitting on the floor, 126 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: and then I was sitting right here, two rolls back 127 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: from the floor, and then he saw me, and then 128 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: I said, I hit him with that. He said, he 129 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: gave me that. What is that? See you your fellows? Yeah, 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: he said, I see you your felling black people saw 131 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: this is okay, trying to take him. 132 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: To tell me it was black people. 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Tell me, don't moment away from me. He saw me, 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: you seen me, He knew meel. 135 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: You know what's so crazy. I had a moment like 136 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: that with Beyonce in Paris. It was so crazy because 137 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: I was with my friend and she was like, let's 138 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: go say to Beyonce because she had. 139 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: Like a Renaissance club Renaissance in Paris. Said. 140 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: I was like freaking out obviously, and so I'm just like, 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: you know what, let me just like I'm not going 142 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: to be invading the space, like I'm just gonna I'm 143 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: so happy to be in this room. And so my 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: friend's like, let's go say hi to be and I'm like, 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: I just I don't. I don't think she knows who 146 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: I am. Like, I just I don't feel comfortable just 147 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: walking up to her, like hey, what's up. And as 148 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: soon as I said that, she like walked towards me 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: and said hey. And I was like, oh my god, 150 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: this is such a crazy party, right, It's crazy. 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: It's her party and like crazy and I was like, okay, bye, 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: I just didn't know what that say. 153 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I like, that is fun. It's such a crazy party, right, 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: And I was just lit. 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: The rest of the night. 156 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: They literally have a video on my phone with me 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: screaming in the streets. Someone said something and I was like. 158 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Don't baby, call. 159 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: Like I don't even phone. You know, you can't call 160 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: someone else. 161 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: You can't call because I think it's like she does. 162 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: It's like it's like even Beyonce, even people on that level, 163 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: you you be surprised how human and regularly cool they are. 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: But I'm like, even when I saw the Zel, like 165 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I've seen him before, but I doubt it. I doubted 166 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: if he remembered me. You know what, I'm saying, but 167 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: it was still like, you know, he was the one 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: guy that I was kind of like it like a 169 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: little nervous about it. 170 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: You don't thinknzil her sex. 171 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I hope, So you know what I'm saying, I hope, 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: So you know, I hope that's what that head Nott 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: was like, I like you, I like your tunes. You 174 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it's like you never know. 175 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: But it's like it's just like a. 176 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: Respect thing too. 177 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: Like I think it's awesome when there's people that you know, 178 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: we either put on like such a high pedestal or 179 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: we like admire, like in their craft, and to have 180 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: that sort of like recognition as artists as well too. 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: It just gives us that, you know, like pat on 182 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: the shoulder, to be like I see you and like 183 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: you are like, yeah, I get. 184 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: It, I get it. 185 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: I treat everybody saying I just I don't know any 186 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: other way. 187 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: No, no, I get that reverse. 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: It's just awesome to have that kind of like it's 189 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: not not co sign. 190 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: But just that like you you're doing your thing, I 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: see you doing your things. You'm up here doing my thing, 192 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: but I see. 193 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: You that acknowledge. 194 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, just in meeting people of 195 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: you know, of all classes. I think especially people who 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: have become very famous, they need normalcy. 197 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. 198 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 4: And I think that it's watching people, watching people freak 199 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: out sometimes kind of like for them, it's like, damn, 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: like I just kind of wanted to be cool, you 201 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So you know ship, I mean 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: my first time when I first came, I moved to 203 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: LA and I'm eighteen, I meet my idol babyface. 204 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up, nigga. Damie Thomas was like, you 205 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: can't do that. I'm like, everybody's cool, but he's also 206 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of skewed. You know what I'm saying, because you 207 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: know this this guy was hanging out with Michael Jackson and. 208 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: No, but that's that's not what I was saying. 209 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like as like for me, for me, 210 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: like working with Timbaland or him like acknowledging that. 211 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: He sorry, just stop calling me. 212 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: Just him being like acknowledging me as an artist just 213 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: gave me that reassurance that like, because you know, as 214 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: as artists and just humans, we can like go through 215 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: periods of like doubt or like am I doing the 216 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: right thing, like, like especially me, like I've been doing 217 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: this for like a minute now, and like it's awesome 218 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: that I'm experiencing what for me is like my first 219 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: real moment where so many people are like discovering my 220 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: music because of a platform or I'm like TikTok. 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, it's been rediscovery for you. 222 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, rediscovery song came out almost ten years ago now, 223 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: and it's like people are listening to it like it's. 224 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,359 Speaker 2: A brand new song, which. 225 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: For me is just like wow, Like good music is timeless. 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it came out in twenty fourteen 227 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: or or whatever. And so I'm just I already was 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: in that space before my song Collide started to gain 229 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: this recognition on TikTok, but it just gave me that 230 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: extra like pat on the back, and sometimes you need 231 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: that in life because I'm sure like people didn't even 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: like know that. But I was like going through a 233 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: space of like is this the right thing that I 234 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: should be doing? Like should I be doing music? Should 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: I like think about something else? 236 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Like? 237 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: And I talked myself off that ledge and I was 238 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: like getting back into that space before this happened, but 239 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: it really just like reassured me this year started off 240 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: like so amazing, and I've just been like grateful for 241 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: like everything that's been happening. 242 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: So let's get into today. Let's get into Let's get 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: into the beginning, as Tank would like to say, where 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: it all started. 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: It all started, because I mean. 246 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: I know you from being a very small key because 247 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: of your mom. 248 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 249 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: Your mom is my homie, been my homie for a 250 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: long time, amazing attorney executive, all the cool ship and 251 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: shout out to Nova. I think we locked her out 252 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: because we won't want her darted. It's not your mom's 253 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: friend doing an episode. Okay, all right, but let's start. 254 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: Let's start from the beginning with you, like where this 255 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: all kicked off. How would you say, what's your intro 256 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: to it? 257 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: When was the first time someone said to you you 258 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: have something special? You said to yourself, I think I 259 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: have something special? 260 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: Always from like elementary school, Yeah, it was right in 261 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: here though. Matter of fact, No, I just knew that 262 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an artist. 263 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: I knew that I wanted to whether it was. 264 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 3: Like I was lady into like musical theater like when 265 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: I was younger, because I was like, I want to 266 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: be an actress too, and I want to be a singer, 267 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: like I know I can sing. And I remember I 268 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: was graduating elementary school and they were giving out like 269 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: the singer the best singer of the year or of 270 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: the class. 271 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: And it. 272 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: Was just a public school, but they had like the 273 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: performance arts. Like I went to school in Brooklyn. 274 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: So and they gave it to this girl and she 275 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: didn't sing at all, like she didn't even really talk. 276 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: So I was so confused as to how she could 277 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: win Singer of the Year. And I was furious, and 278 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: it just like lit a fire undeath me. 279 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: I was like okay. I was like okay. 280 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: So then in middle school, I went to performing arts 281 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: school in Brooklyn and then I was like, I'm going 282 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: to be in the choir. And I went so hard 283 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: to try to be in the choir. They didn't let 284 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: me in. Didn't let me in the choir. I don't 285 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: know me in school, just don't have a good like 286 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: a history, just me and the public school system. So 287 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: then I was like, all right, well I forget you 288 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: then and then I went into theater and then every 289 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: time they only did musicals and I would just go 290 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: so hard, and like because my theater teacher knew that 291 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: I could sing, so he would always want to give 292 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: me the singing parts. And the choir teacher, who was 293 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: also involved in it, she just hated. 294 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: She hated on me for whatever reason. 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: And I was just like, well, man, now I'm the ladybug, so. 296 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: What do you do? 297 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: And it was just all. 298 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: And enjoy that ladybug. 299 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: She was. 300 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: It was like the Ladybugs were kind of like the 301 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: dream Girls and I was. And so that was like 302 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: a full I don't know, I don't know where these 303 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: schools got all this to put these plays on in Likelyn, 304 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: but that was a full production. And so then I 305 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: went to high school and I got into the choir, 306 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: but the teacher did. 307 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Not like me. What were you? 308 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: I just wanted to sing? And so I'm just like 309 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: he would never give me a solo. 310 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: Were you're walking in like I'm here, Well why would 311 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: you not? Because okay, all right, because I was confidence, yes, 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: but you gotta understand, obviously you're an adult now, but 313 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: as a kid, you don't understand this is that most 314 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: people who are teachers are people who really wanted to 315 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: do it. Something happened and now they you know, they 316 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: still love it and they're teaching. 317 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: So when they when you walk in with all that confidence, lady, 318 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: but like, hey man, get her to. 319 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: My high school choir teacher was definitely like bitter. But 320 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: then we were learning a lot of music theory, like 321 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: things that I probably don't like incorporate into like my 322 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: life now, but I just wanted to. Like we were 323 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: singing opera, so I was like, I he was like, 324 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: you're going to be a tenor, and I'm like, what, 325 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: I can sing everything. I was like, well, I wanted 326 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: to be a soprano. And then he was like, no, 327 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: you're a tenor. You're there, and I'm just like that's crazy. 328 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, actually I can sing baritone too, 329 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: So like. 330 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: I was just. 331 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: It's starting to come out the more started. 332 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't saying it. 333 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: Like that, I'm saying it now like that, but I 334 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: was just like, hey, like I can do more than 335 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: just this, like don't box me in. 336 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: He was like, you're gonna do what I tell. 337 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: You to do, and which is fair too, which is fair, 338 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like you don't want to 339 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: be boxing. 340 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: I was trying to be like a teacher's pet because 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: I just wanted like he just didn't. 342 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: But also he was just like angry. He was angry man. 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: And so then the one time he gave me a solo, 344 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: he knew I was sick. 345 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: He knew I was sick. 346 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: And then I remember I was sitting in like the 347 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: court yard or whatever. We had a performance and I 348 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: cracked and I just cried and I ran away. My 349 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: voice cracked and I just cried and I ran away. 350 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: And then I was like another villain story wasn't invented. 351 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, yeah, this will never happen 352 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: to me again. And so then I got a vocal 353 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: coach and my mom like, I was like, this is 354 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: what I want to do, regardless of all that work 355 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: that I did, like I went to like summer programs 356 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: or whatever, but then I started to I asked my mom. 357 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to be a singer, and 358 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: she was like, you know, most parents in the in 359 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: the industry, they're just like no, They're like I'm not. 360 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: I don't want you to be a part of this. 361 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 3: It's like a brutal experience and they don't want their 362 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: kids to have to go through these things because they 363 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: see it firsthand. Yeah, And I was like, okay, whatever. 364 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: Now I'm on the internet. I'm on Tumblr. I'm developing 365 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: my own like you go find it yourself. Yeah, I'm 366 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: on my own. I create my own world, and this 367 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: whole community of like New York Tumblr kids, and we're 368 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: just like running around the city. Like now I can 369 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: hang out in the city, and. 370 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, how are you this time? 371 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm like sixteen seventeen, and I'm no longer. Oh no, 372 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 3: I was still in school at the time, but I 373 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: was like I was in high school but like tenth grade. 374 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: And then I started to develop like a fan base 375 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: pretty much on Tumblr by just you know, just being 376 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: weird and quirky and experimenting with my look. And then 377 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: like I started to make covers on YouTube and just 378 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: singing and like showing that I could sing, and then 379 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: people started to like find out. And I think I 380 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: was at a BMI panel one time with my mom 381 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: and because she would always bring me to these events, 382 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: and they were doing a Q and A. It was 383 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: like Lorienne Gibson and like a bunch of other people. 384 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: I can't remember like who else was up there. I 385 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: just remember because how could. 386 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: You ever forget lorient. 387 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: But so remember yeah, Remember. 388 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: So I stood on the line for the Q and A, 389 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: and I was like, can I sing? 390 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Like this seems like the right room just singing. 391 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: You didn't tell your mother you do this at all? 392 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, And so I just stood in the line 393 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: and I was like, can I sing? And then they 394 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: were like yeah, and I sang this song called Black 395 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: and Gold by Sam Sparrow, and then everyone there was 396 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: like a room full of people who wanted to figure 397 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: out how to be a part of the industry, whether 398 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: it's producer or like executive or whatever, and so so 399 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: many people then like ran up to me and my 400 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: mom after like do you have a manager? 401 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: Like do you have a producer? Do you ever? Like 402 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: what are you doing? And then my mom was like okay. 403 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: And then as I started to like build this fan 404 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: base on Tumblr, people started to like reach out and 405 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: wanted to work with me, and so my mom then 406 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: put me in with someone that she knew and trusted 407 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: at the time, and I started to just like, uh, 408 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: make original music, like you know, work with some writers 409 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 3: and producers. And I was still in high school, but 410 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: then it was becoming difficult. So then I started to 411 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 3: get homeschooled, because like I would be in the studio 412 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: really late and we were trying to get me a 413 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: record deal, and it was so funny because I would 414 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: go all the labels and like, now that I think 415 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: about it, I'm so embarrassed. 416 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: But I'd be like in fun of like Lee or 417 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: Cohen and like all. 418 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: These I think even La Read and like dancing and 419 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: singing and like doing this whole stupid little show. And 420 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 3: they were like, hmm, she's cute. And my spirit was 421 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: so crushed because I'm so young, just like standing in 422 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: front of these people like pick me, and then they're 423 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: like no, and I'm like all right, fine, and I 424 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: just developed. Actually I was younger than that. I was younger. 425 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't like seventeen at that time. I was probably 426 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: like fourteen fifteen. 427 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: And then. 428 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so would that again, No, why not give because 429 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: we want the audience to understand the process. 430 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Well. 431 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: Also, times are so different now. I think that when 432 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: I was first starting, like there was still this I 433 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: guess old school mentality at like record labels and like 434 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: artist development, and like that's not necessarily a thing anymore 435 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: because we have platforms like TikTok or Instagram right now 436 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: and YouTube where so many people are kind of just 437 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: becoming like overnight like sensations, just because. 438 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: I think that it's both. 439 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: I think that there's pros and cons to it because now, 440 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of just strange because everyone like 441 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: thinks that they're like a rapper and artists. And I 442 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: think that it's great that people like obviously everyone loves music. 443 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: It's a universal language, so people if you have the 444 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: ability to make music, like, why wouldn't you? And then 445 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: there's platforms where like it can reach people hundreds millions 446 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: of people, like in a second, so why would you 447 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: not share that? And I think that there's a difference 448 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: between people who just enjoy like making music and then 449 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: people who like want to be a star, because even 450 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: and I learned that very early on, like just with 451 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 3: working with a bunch of songwriters, because I'm like, these 452 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: people are so talented, like why aren't they like celebrities? 453 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: Why aren't they like bigger? Like why aren't they superstars? 454 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 3: And it's just everyone doesn't want to be that, you know, 455 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: like you can be talented and creative and like have 456 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: all these ideas, but not everybody to be in front 457 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: of the camera and to be like the face of 458 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: it all, Like you really have to have tough skin. 459 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: And that's what I think is a dangerous part of 460 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 3: that people aren't really like aware of, especially like the 461 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: kids who like are just like putting out songs online, 462 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: and like when it comes like mental health, it's like 463 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: they're not prepared for that. Like not everybody has that 464 00:22:48,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: thick of skin to be in this industry to that capacity. 465 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I would, I would kind of dare to say. 466 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: And I'm sure what I'm not sure which part you're 467 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: saying you would do differently, But I think you having 468 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: those moments of disappointment, but you still going through your routine, 469 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: You still going through your act and step act and 470 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: stepping up and just you know, but it really prepared 471 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: you and and it hardened you in a way to 472 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: where once you get into really get into this, you 473 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean, you gotta have a tough out 474 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: of shelter. Those blows keep coming, they don't stop, they 475 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: don't stop. It gets the blows get heavier. Actually, yeah, because. 476 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: As he continues to grow in this thing, yeah, oh. 477 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the bag is heavier and the losses are heavier. 478 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: You know what, I mean, so it's like you you 479 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: were you were courageous very early. I'll give you that. 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 481 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: I mean, well, my mom she's taught me to be 482 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: to be that way. But you're right, I guess I 483 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't change anything, honestly because everything that I went through 484 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: from a young age, through this industry, through the labels 485 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: that I've been at, and now being independent, like, it's 486 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: all made me the woman and the artist that I 487 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 3: am today and right now even though I've I got 488 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: signed to the first label when I was seventeen and 489 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: I'm twenty seven now, so that's ten years ago. Yeah, 490 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: and I feel like just so refreshed and like new 491 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: because I'm so much more sure of who I am 492 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 3: just as a human and as an artist, and I 493 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 3: know what I like. And I went through all these 494 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: things where I listened to everyone because I thought that 495 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: they knew it was best for me. And now I'm 496 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: just like when I'm in the studio, I have just 497 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: such a different energy and love because there was a 498 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: certain point where I just felt like I was just 499 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: doing homework or doing like a science project when I 500 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: was recording a song, and like. 501 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: Whenever I would write, they would be like, oh, it's 502 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: not good. 503 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: It's not good, instead of like having a team around 504 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: me that encouraged me to be better, but to get 505 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: my ideas like out right, you know. And I think 506 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: that I don't take anything personal obviously, like this is 507 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: this industry. I learned that from young and like I'm 508 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: sure like my mom kind of like prepared me for 509 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: that as well too, and also tried to protect me 510 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: as much as she could from the evils. But I 511 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: think now at this age that I'm at and the 512 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: space that I'm in in life, I'm so beyond excited, 513 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: And a. 514 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Lot of people. 515 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: Probably would think that at this point I'd be jaded, 516 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, and are like tired of it. But I 517 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: always I have this saying where it's like if your 518 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: favorite artist gave up when things got too hard, they 519 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't be your favorite artist today. And I fully believe that. 520 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: And there's so many examples, like and even artists who 521 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: are just receiving their flowers for that I've been following 522 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: for a while, like whether it's Doja Cat, I've been 523 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: looking at her since like SoundCloud days on Tumblr and 524 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: even Sizza, Like I've been listening to all these art 525 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: even Kendrick. 526 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: I've listening. 527 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: I've been listening to all these people from like The 528 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: Jump and The Weekend and everyone, Like it's just like, 529 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: that's why I have such an a love for it 530 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: because I see, like what happens when you stay the 531 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: course and when you fully believe in yourself and when 532 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 3: you create a team around you that can you know, 533 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: help you bring your dreams to fruition. 534 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dope. At twenty seven? Let me think, was 535 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: that on the bench at twenty seven? I think, so, yeah, yeah, 536 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: you have been benched. I have been benched. 537 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 538 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Put on the shelf? Put on the shelf? 539 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: I mean we you know, we we connected to sports. Yeah, 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: we both grew up playing sports. So it's like everything 541 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: with us with music, we look at it in a 542 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: sports way too, you know what I mean. But he 543 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: was on the shelf after having a hit record, hit album, 544 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 4: having labeled dispute. 545 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: Well that's why I also like when I first like 546 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: became independent, I was so scared because I'd been like 547 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: I've been in Atlantic, I've been at rock Nation, and 548 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, what do I do? 549 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: Like, how do I do this? 550 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: Like the biggest Yeah, So I'm just like, what do 551 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: you like when you have people like Charlie walk in 552 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: your face like you're three minutes away, and like everyone's like, yeah, 553 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: you got this, and I'm like, well no, I'm independent, 554 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: so yeah, and I was like, I was so scared, 555 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, how do I even like get 556 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: in with producers? 557 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Like how did you make that turn? Though? What what 558 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: made you go from from Atlantic in the rock Nation 559 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: and all of these buildings to becoming your own buildings? Well? 560 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 3: I was with Atlantic for three years, and you know, 561 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: things weren't going as I expect them to have gone 562 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: in the in that three year span, and you know, 563 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: so we parted ways due to some things and it 564 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: was fine. And then obviously I like, you know, I'm 565 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: from Brooklyn, so like, and my mom's obviously from Brooklyn. 566 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 3: So we had like connections over at rock Nation and 567 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 3: that was just like so cool to me to be like, 568 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm a Brooklyn girls side a jay Z. 569 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: And so I was there and a lot of interesting 570 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 3: things happened there as well too. 571 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: I got to work with. 572 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: The Dream and Tricky on a project and and it 573 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: was just really an awesome experience that I learned too 574 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: I would go into that office every day like I 575 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 3: was going to school, like what are we doing? Like, 576 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: and after being with them for three years too, like 577 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: I just wasn't in the place that I wanted to 578 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: be yet. And so my mother and I we just 579 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: took a risk in wanting to be independent. And it 580 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: was scary at first, especially financially too. Ye, that is 581 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: the toughest part of being independent, just finding you are 582 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: the bank. Yeah, no, you are the bank. 583 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: You are the bank. 584 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: And then the building a team around you of people 585 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: because and you have to like outsourcings like a publicist, and. 586 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: It's a lot of favorites. But then I realized too. 587 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: We even did a song together, remember that one time 588 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: that we had that session, put it out on SoundCloud. 589 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: That was me like finding that getting into my songwriting pocket. 590 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: But it was the greatest decision I could have ever 591 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: made because it just taught me more about myself. And 592 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: I also realized like in being an art like when 593 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: you're signed to a label, you're kind of like sheltered, 594 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: You're so like baby, That's was my experience where it's 595 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: like your A and R is setting up the sessions 596 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: for you, Like I'm not developing relationships with these producers 597 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: or these other artists that I'm working with and these songwriters, 598 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm just like showing up. Yeah, I'm just like showing up. 599 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's not And all my peers that 600 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm like friends with, I'm like, that's not their experience, 601 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: Like why is that my exper I'm just doing homework. 602 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: And that's why I was like falling out of love 603 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: with this whole cycle and being so disappointed when things 604 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: didn't work out. Where it's like now like I'm so 605 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: proud of the work that I'm doing, regardless of how 606 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: anyone feels about it, because I know what went into 607 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: this and the whole process, and. 608 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to interrupt you, but that's that's that's 609 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: a that's kind of crazy, right, because most artists enjoy 610 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: the pampered stay the coddling, you know what I'm saying, 611 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: where they're being weighted on hand and foot and just 612 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, make sure my per diem is and tell 613 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: them I want this at the studio and then they 614 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: just you know, and you, on the other hand, are 615 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: like you didn't feel hands on enough to understand how 616 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: the earth was moving around. 617 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: You time I was like. 618 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: I won't say who obviously, but I was with an 619 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: artist and I was in a session and I. 620 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Was like so excited. I'm like, oh my god, you 621 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: have like a violinist. 622 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: Here, like you're not going to it was like, yeah, 623 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave. And I'm like you're not going 624 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: to wait for the violinists to get here? Like, well, 625 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm done, and I'm like you don't want to see 626 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: what he's going to put on your song. He's like no, 627 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: they'll take care of it. And I'm like, you just started, 628 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: and this is how you're acting. 629 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh, this is a disaster. It was crazy. 630 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: I could not believe it. I was like, this is crazy, 631 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: Like I want to be in the studio. I want 632 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving without experience. Yeah, but also like I'm 633 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: not leaving without a. 634 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: Bounce of my song. I don't care who what? 635 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like I now have learned 636 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: that lesson. It's like I need to leave with the bounce. 637 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: I want to listen to it in the car. I 638 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: want to see. 639 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: Sessions. I don't know, I don't know who's supposed to 640 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: pay what, but you better put something on this floppy disk. 641 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: I also used to think because like I was recording 642 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of songs that like I didn't necessarily have 643 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: anything to do with. 644 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: That I needed to. 645 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: Like if I didn't finish the song and one day 646 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: that I was a failure. 647 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Like it was so crazy. 648 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, like I didn't finish 649 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: cutting this song, and like one day I only cut 650 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: one song today like I'm a failure. 651 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: And now that I'm like like, wait. 652 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: I want this to be perfect, like and and. 653 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: That takes time. 654 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: I can't just like and sometimes it does happen where 655 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: like you're in you catch a vibe and like you 656 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: can cut the song and it's like great, like the 657 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: first time you cut it, but it's like no, I 658 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: want to go back. But also like listening to it, 659 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: I thought that like once you cut it, it's there, 660 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: it's bounced, that's it. 661 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I learned it from Static, like I was the 662 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: guy that record five six songs in a day and 663 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: make the track and write it and do the whole 664 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: like I was that guy. I'm on a thousand yeah, 665 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: and I will watch Static just sit at the board 666 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and listen to a track and lay two lines and 667 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: get back in front. Of the board and just kind 668 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: of sit, smoke a little bit, go back, lay a 669 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: third line, and then yeah, I'm gonna come back tomorrow. 670 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, all right. 671 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: And I watched him work on a song for like 672 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: four days and then listen to it. I'm I'm gonna 673 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: come back. I'm gonna come back tomorrow. Listen to it, 674 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: come back, listen to it. I need to I need 675 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: to switch this up, and after you you're not done. 676 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: And then I watch him do that, and it's why 677 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: he's static major, it's why he has the hit records 678 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: that he has, because he just took his times. I think. 679 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: I think that's something that's especially with social media, because 680 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: social media put a spotlight on the experiences, are a 681 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: spotlight on the experiences that people wanted to push out. 682 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. 683 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: I think, you know, even when people start doing the 684 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: whole I don't write nothing down. Yeah, there are artists 685 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: and writers who do do that and are really good 686 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: at that, but that's not for everyone, you know, And 687 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: I think what's been promoted is that makes me more 688 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: talented than such and such, which is. 689 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: Not the truth. Absolutely you know what I mean. 690 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: You know, like we go back and Tupac was a poet, 691 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So he literally has books 692 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 4: of poems. But then you have jay Z on the 693 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: other hand. That's like listen, I get it off from 694 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: my mind. It can go both ways, and I think 695 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: with the newer and the younger generation, it got put 696 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: into this space of I do it quick. Oh you know, 697 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: I do my records in fifteen minutes. Well some of 698 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: those records sound like fifteen minute records, you know what 699 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: I mean. I don't care how many of you did today, 700 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 4: Maybe you should have took fifteen days. Because anybody that's 701 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: ever worked with Michael Jackson, who I will argue and 702 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: fight with anyone as the greatest singer, entertainer, everything of 703 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: all time. You would be in a studio with that man. 704 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 4: It might get a record done a month depending. 705 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: On how he you know. 706 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: But that's why it sounds he wasn't coming. 707 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: Out of that studio with mediocre records or a mediocre 708 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: feel anything, you know what I mean, Because yes, everything 709 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 4: is subjective. We do music, it's it's someone's fail. 710 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a colossal fail, you know. 711 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: What I mean, but sonically it's going to be right, 712 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: the mix is going to be right. They're gonna make 713 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: sure the words make sense next to each other, you 714 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like Michael Jackson wasn't just doing 715 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 4: a vibe. And sometimes I personally feel like the word 716 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: vibe gets thrown out as this thing of And you 717 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: said that too, of you know, it's not judged the. 718 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: Same because it's like, oh, it's just vibing. 719 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 4: Well, you want somebody to take their time and listen 720 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 4: to it and pay for and all these other things 721 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: that you you really aren't putting your full into. That's 722 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: why I respect what you're saying, Like, no, I want 723 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: to be a full part of it. I really want to. 724 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: I want to put into work. 725 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I think was so special about not 726 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: this last part I put up, but the one that 727 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: I did with Timbaland, because. 728 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: Who's my favorite producer by iconic. 729 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he produced my whole album Space and Time, 730 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: and we did a documentary about it that's on my YouTube, 731 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 3: and it just goes through the whole process of like 732 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: covid and I's just like I never met him before 733 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: in my life, but I was obviously such a huge fan, 734 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: and he'd followed me on Instagram, and so we would 735 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 3: he would send me beats and then I would just 736 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 3: like write to them and I just be freaking out 737 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: and I would just put them on YouTube, like these 738 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: one minute clips that we would just do side by side, 739 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: and then after like the tenth one, We're just like, 740 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: we have to figure out how to get to each 741 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 3: other so we can like finish this project. And we did, 742 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: and we put it out and we shot sick music 743 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: videos to it and all independent, and like I couldn't 744 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: believe that that's crazy that that happened. And you know, 745 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: like obviously people are still like discovering the project, Like 746 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: as people are discovering me my music from like nine 747 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: ten years ago. 748 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: There's always someone who hasn't heard it yet exactly. 749 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: And it's funny because a lot of like my fans 750 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 3: who have heard these songs before, they're so frustrated because like, 751 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: where's the new music, And I'm like, listen, there's millions 752 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: of people. Like last year, I had maybe like two 753 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 3: million monthly listeners on Spotify, maybe like one point six. 754 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: I just checked to have ten minutes ten million then 755 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 3: counting of and that's just on Spotify. Like I haven't 756 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: released anything new. Yeah, and I put out a single 757 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: last year, but. 758 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: That's it. 759 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: Like I haven't put out like a new like project, 760 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, wow, I can't believe like platforms 761 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: like a TikTok can really. 762 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 4: Just like I'll take you somewhere else, take you somewhere. Yeah, 763 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 4: and you and you have ownership of all of your 764 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 4: music now. 765 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: Right, not all of it, but that song. Yeah. I 766 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: was just like because when it first started going. 767 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: Up, we're gonna promote, We're gonna promote the things you want. 768 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, the dark side right now. 769 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: But it was so crazy because I'm like, oh, that's 770 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: so crazy. Like I'm like, oh, I don't know if 771 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: I own that song because I did that song when 772 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: I was at Atlantic, and so I'm just like, oh, 773 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 3: like that's crazy. Colyde's going up like I don't get 774 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: anything from that, like woo, And the mom was like, 775 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: actually you do. Like when we left Atlantic we got 776 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: that song and I'm like, wait, what. 777 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 5: That's crazy? 778 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Are you interacting? Yeah? Yeah, by side, I'll do it. 779 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: I'll do no. 780 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 4: So that it's you have two versions of the Clyde record. 781 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's the one with Tiger, which is like 782 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: the original one, and so on my project dark Side 783 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 3: that I just put out, it's the solo, which a 784 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 3: lot of people were asking for. 785 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like you said that discovery is in lists 786 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: and it goes back to just just stay the course 787 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: and do good stuff because when people accidentally hit that 788 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: page or go down that rabbit hole and bump into it, 789 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: you know what, it's like finding a dope restaurant. Yeah, yeah, 790 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 791 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: And like all the restaurant has been around for like 792 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: however long. I was like, well, now it's spot. 793 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: There's always those people who like I've been going there, 794 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: you know what. 795 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: I like it, like, maybe I'll see you here. Yeah yeah. 796 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: So I mean as long as you're as long as 797 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: you're doing that, I feel like I feel like musically, 798 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: like you know, this sky is the limit for you. 799 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean you meaning feels good. 800 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been doing it, you said for a long time. 801 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: You've been doing it for ten years, which which is crazy, but. 802 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 4: Longer than that evening professionally. Yeah, yeah, you've been in 803 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: this thing half your life. 804 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: But I mean you're still extremely young. 805 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, look at dude. Yeah, she's like now a 806 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: super Maga star. 807 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: Listen, Siss ain't leaving the house for less than seven figures. 808 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: Need it. I know that because I had. 809 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 4: A conversation on the phone with Top talk about it. 810 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 4: Need it Listen, somebody called me about sister, like, yeah, 811 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 4: you know, can you get to Sis? 812 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, I can call Top Top. 813 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 4: Top said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Helmie. If they ain't 814 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: got I said, oh, oh yeah, I love this talk. 815 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 4: If you guys don't have this for Scissa, she's not 816 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: coming and I'm not going to make any phone call 817 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 4: for you and I, but I love to hear that. 818 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 4: It's you know what I'm saying for like you said, 819 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 4: it's what she deserves. She's worked so hard to get 820 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 4: to this space and she they know, they know the 821 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 4: type of room she gonna fill up. 822 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 3: But people see like they just see like where she's 823 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 3: at now, and they don't really like get to which 824 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: is why I love like when artists do documentaries because 825 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: you really get to like see their growth and like 826 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: where they came from. And I think that's so beautiful 827 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: and it gives you like a different level of like 828 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: appreciation and respect for them as well too. 829 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: Like people just. 830 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 3: Read headlines and they just listen to a song for 831 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 3: two seconds a snippet, like every our attention spans have 832 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 3: gotten so short, and I think that that kind of sucks, 833 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: like as like time progresses, like our attention spans just 834 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: like shrink, and then as like I'm so grateful for TikTok, 835 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: but it's like the one second, like what there was 836 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: that moment of like Steve Lacy, who's like one of 837 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: my friends, and there was like obviously one of his 838 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 3: songs went crazy TikTok, and there was number one, I 839 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: Love Love how so. 840 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: Many girl a great songs. 841 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: But then like everyone gets tickets for his concerts, and 842 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 3: then like there's that one video that went around where 843 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: it was like no one knew the rest of the 844 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: words to the song. They just knew the hook and 845 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: they were like beating him down about that on social media. 846 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: But it's just like you guys are standing there, you 847 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: should feel stupid. 848 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: You guys should feel dumb that you don't know the 849 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 3: words to this artist that you just paid however many 850 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: dollars to go their show standing there. Whatever day, this is, 851 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 3: this is the time you wanted to waste your time 852 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: coming to somebody show that you're one of them, like 853 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 3: talk shit about that, you don't know. It's just like 854 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: we don't the respect for artists who like get on 855 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: stage and like put this work into like do this 856 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 3: obviously like people, they don't, they don't care. But I 857 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: hope that a shift is beginning where people are becoming 858 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: more just appreciative of everything. 859 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: What a tough part about us as entertainers is that 860 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: for people it's it's so disposable. Yeah, you know what 861 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean. And for them, for most people, it's just 862 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: about the end result. 863 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true. 864 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: It's just about Okay, entertainment. You know, I paid this 865 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: money entertainment. You know what I'm saying, Like, if something 866 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: goes faulty within that entertainment, they could care less about that, 867 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They care less that it's 868 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: not your fault that the building couldn't house the power 869 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: that that is covering your LED, And then LED goes down, 870 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: and then your pro tools which was running fine before 871 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: sound check, all of a sudden, your pro toos rig 872 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: is on the fritz. And then your backup pro toos 873 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: rig it ain't running. Like they don't care you're standing 874 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: there holding the bag like I promise we we rehearsed 875 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: for six months for this to get this right for you. 876 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: But you'll still see on the ground the show was weak. 877 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I paid. And it's like there's this 878 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: this this disconnect with the work that we put in, 879 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: not even versus what they want. But how do you 880 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: say that, like we're trying. I promise you we are. 881 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you have to say that, and if 882 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: it goes back. 883 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: I think people respect that. 884 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think more artists should stand in front 885 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 4: of that. Hey listen, if you got a bad show 886 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: or you was sick or now, with the platforms that 887 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 4: we have, it's nothing to go on there and say, hey, 888 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 4: man had a bad night last night. 889 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 890 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 3: I think that it's just also like it means more 891 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 3: and like you develop a different connection with your audience 892 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 3: when you are vocal about like the mess ups. You know, 893 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: like I was at the weekend show that he did 894 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: so fine and he got t he was like, you 895 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: know what, like I'm not I want to give you 896 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 3: guys a great show, so I'm not going to put 897 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 3: you through this if I if. 898 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: I know that's not gonna be the best, and we'll 899 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: reschedule it. 900 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 3: And like, I think for the most part, like your 901 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: real fans. 902 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: Will appreciate something like that that you want to give 903 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: them the best. 904 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: Fans We're trying, We're trying our. 905 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 3: Best, but I think like real fans understand that the 906 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 3: fans from just thele that. 907 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: Just watching people just hover. 908 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 4: But we need all of it ultimately, because the business 909 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: that we're in is entertainment, entertainment, and it's controlled by 910 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 4: the people, and either it's love or hate or it's 911 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 4: a little bit of both, but you need the people. 912 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: For me though, I've I feel like I've entered a 913 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 3: space where like obviously it still gets rough, like you know, 914 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: there's comments that you see online and like when you're 915 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 3: being attacked. 916 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't feel good. 917 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 3: But and I actually one of my fans like at 918 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 3: DMG the other day, like how do you do it? 919 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, I've like made more 920 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: of an effort to realize that at the end of 921 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 3: the day, I am a human as well too, and 922 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: just to keep good people around me. And I'm starting 923 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 3: to do this thing too where it's like if i 924 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 3: feel like I've gotten too like engulfed in my phone. 925 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: Like I'm just like the way I just said, it's 926 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 3: starting to do this thing as if it's not a thing. 927 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 3: Like I'm just like, you know, I'm just gonna pick 928 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: up a book and read, Like even if I have 929 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 3: to force myself to like remove my focus from my phone, 930 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: just gonna just so I'm always walking around with my 931 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 3: book now, I'm just like, okay, like I'm too crazy 932 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 3: at my phone, Like let. 933 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: Me just because a lot of people aren't doing that, 934 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 4: a lot of people aren't tapping in. 935 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the book on my phone. 936 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: I thought I could do that, but I thought I 937 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 3: could do that, but that I even want on my iPad. 938 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna. I'm just like you know, I can't. 939 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: I have I need self. 940 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 3: Discipline, Like I really need to be more disciplined, and 941 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: like if I'm on my phone, like I have I 942 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 3: even deleted Sorry I'm little sick. I deleted like Instagram 943 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 3: and Twitter from like my screen. But I can still 944 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 3: like pull my search thing down and search Instagram, Twitter 945 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: and like I found myself doing that way more than 946 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 3: if it was just on my home screen. 947 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 4: It's extremely addictive, especially and especially for your generation because 948 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: you grew up in it completely, right, so I know 949 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 4: how to tap out of it because I haven't always 950 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: had it, you know what I mean. Even though in 951 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 4: our generation as well, it's still people who are addicted 952 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: to it as well. 953 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 2: Conant searching. 954 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but your generation, it's it's completely. 955 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: It's like cartoons. A part of your life. 956 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 4: This is this is what y'all do is figuring out 957 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 4: what's going on in the ground, getting as much foolish 958 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 4: information as possible all day long. Like you said, it's 959 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 4: hard not to type in your name and see what 960 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: they're talking about or see what you know. 961 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: It's it's all I say. 962 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a process of just finding what 963 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 4: works for you and what don't work for you. Because 964 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 4: for some people them being fully locked in has actually 965 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 4: become a business. 966 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: They know that. 967 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's to get none out of it. 968 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, I know so many people or it's 969 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 3: just like they're just they have to be on their phone, 970 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 3: they have to record everything, and I'm just like, I I. 971 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 2: Can't do it. 972 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: Bother. 973 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: Do y'all ever even eat the snacks? 974 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: No, sometimes we eat the snacks you want to. Sometimes 975 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: we the snacks. 976 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: The audiences don't like when Tank be on here smacking 977 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 4: the shit. 978 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes we the snack. We eat the snacks. Justine, where 979 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: are you going? I want to know your top five, 980 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: your top five, top five, your top five? 981 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: Just this top five? 982 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: I bet R and B so. 983 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 5: Home talk, Nikka, did you just Yoda. 984 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: Out of his mind? Encourage? 985 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 4: That was crazy? 986 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 2: Good? 987 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: Your top five R and B artists right now? 988 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 3: So this is a band. Their name is Salt. The 989 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 3: lead singer. I think they may like switch out sometimes 990 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure. I don't know, like too much 991 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 3: about it. But Cleo Soul is like the singer. Yeah, 992 00:49:54,719 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 3: my favorite song is Masterpiece Souse. 993 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 2: Right, Okay. 994 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: So Salt, obviously says right now is going crazy. 995 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 2: Her album is phenomenal. 996 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 3: I mean, like I have to put Beyonce in there, 997 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 3: because Beyonce is just a queen of all queens, big beehive. 998 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 4: I think we should buy her a phone for a birthday. 999 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 2: You should buy her. 1000 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 5: You said you. 1001 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 1: Wanted to call it? Are you? Are you threatened. 1002 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 2: You calls you? If she wants to find she'll find it? 1003 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: Who who told us that too? She was like, yeah, 1004 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll find you. 1005 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 4: Rico Love, Rico Love. She called Rico. 1006 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like hello. Yeah. 1007 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 4: But Kanye don't got no phone either, right, I don't 1008 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 4: think so. 1009 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: That man got a phone? Why he gotta have a phone. 1010 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 4: I feel like Kanye tells the person next to him, Hey, 1011 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 4: person next to me. 1012 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: No tweet shot his text messages and post of them. 1013 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: He has a phone. 1014 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: He got a phone. Okay, he's not in that same world. 1015 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: That's three? That three? Is that three salt? Uh? 1016 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 2: Jazmine Sullivan? 1017 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, love that? 1018 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: Who else? 1019 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 1020 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: We're doing artists and then what are the other categories? 1021 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: Songs? 1022 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 4: Next songs? 1023 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: More artists? 1024 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 2: Oh one, more artists? Steve Lacy. 1025 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: You know I'm rolling having a moment. I funk with Steve. 1026 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 3: Lacy love and like I his album like on repeat. 1027 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: He's dope. 1028 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I like that. 1029 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay the top five. Here we go, your top five 1030 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: R and B songs. 1031 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: Uh, dangerously in love, love that song, masterpiece salt mm hmm, 1032 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 3: right now it's blind is I Love Sunshine by Steve Lacy? Like, 1033 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 3: can't get enough of that song? 1034 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 4: And then. 1035 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: Just give us a little vibe. See you said, just 1036 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: a little talent. 1037 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: But right now it's sound of rain. 1038 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: M hmm line. Sound all right, here we go. Let's 1039 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: do someth We're gonna build. 1040 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: What we wait and sign. 1041 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: All right, sign my love many Rippleton only because it's 1042 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: many Rippleton. Just make that in. I mean, can't deny 1043 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: many ripples. We're gonna make a Voltron, all right. 1044 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: A transformer, no somewhat. No, Yes, it's a robot. 1045 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: It's a robot, but it's not a transformer. Okay. So 1046 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: back in the day Voltron, there were these lions, right, 1047 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: and there was the red, white, blue, yellow, and black lion, and. 1048 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: So power rangers love it. 1049 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: No, they were lions. And people used to drive the lions, 1050 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: and they were out of space lions. Lion exactly, you 1051 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: would get it. It's it's it's a machine lion. They 1052 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: were machines, but they were made like a lion. 1053 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 4: Like it's transformed, right. 1054 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: Okay, So and and and people would they would they 1055 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: would drive them and fly them, you know what I'm saying. 1056 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: And then to fight evil evil evils, zoids and things come. 1057 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 1: And so when it was time to fight the big 1058 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: evil monster, all the lions would come together and form 1059 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: one big like transform. No it's not a transformer. 1060 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 4: It's what's the nigga that get all the little things? 1061 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: I think this is Transformer and power Ranger put together. 1062 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: It's it's Vultron. It's Vultron. It's the five Lions and 1063 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 1: they come together to form Voltron. 1064 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 4: And he looks like a humans. 1065 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: He stole he stole that from the real Voltron. He 1066 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: don't even like Voltron. He stole it from for real. No, 1067 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: he stole it from Voltron. He's a thief. Anyway, We're 1068 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna make a Voltron, okay, the best, the best of 1069 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 1: the best, the best of the best, all right. Where 1070 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the vocals from, the performance style, from 1071 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: the styling from, and then the passion of the artists. 1072 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the vocal. What artists are you 1073 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: taking the vocal from to make your Voltron? One artist? 1074 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the voice of Jazzine Sullivan. 1075 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 4: I liked it. 1076 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 2: And then what else there got you? 1077 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 7: Performance style Beyonce, hmm, okay, you're ready, you're ready, all right? 1078 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: Styling the Cloud the Dread. 1079 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 2: Steve Lacy, Yeah he's dripped out. 1080 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 4: Okay, see you won't like it, Singing dark Beyonce. 1081 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, Gothic, Gothic. 1082 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 4: No, he's not God for us. He's got a little 1083 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 4: dark what No, I think he had devil horns on 1084 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 4: the ship. 1085 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 2: No, you can't look at his style, his fashion. 1086 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 3: No, but you're looking at his artwork. The artwork and 1087 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: the way he dress is different. 1088 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: They all kind of go together. 1089 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 7: All right, Here we go and the passion of the artist, 1090 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 7: the heart beyoncew. 1091 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, double do b. We're not letting you off 1092 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: the hook, don't you do it. 1093 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 4: We got a segment of this show that you cannot 1094 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 4: leave here without doing. 1095 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: Piano. 1096 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 4: Man, give me something music. 1097 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 2: What is this. 1098 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 4: You're gonna hear it? 1099 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no but I ain't saying no name. 1100 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name. 1101 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: Where we was wed, what we did. Hey, I ain't 1102 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: saying no n I ain't saying no names. 1103 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 4: Special segment of the show. It's called I ain't saying 1104 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 4: no name. The story can be funny. I fucked up 1105 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 4: a funny and fucked though. We would like it to 1106 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 4: be funny and put it up to you one ruling 1107 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 4: the game ruling again. You can't say no name. 1108 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: No name. 1109 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 4: You can give descriptions, you can do with that, just 1110 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 4: you cannot say their name. 1111 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so right now. 1112 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 4: We are going to just teen skies. 1113 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: Grownish. I ain't saying no names. 1114 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 2: Oh this one's bad. 1115 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,720 Speaker 3: No, No, I can't know that one was too crazy. 1116 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, I'll tell half of the story. Okay. So 1117 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: I was, this was like over COVID and. 1118 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 3: This is really Oh, this is so bad. Actually, you 1119 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 3: guys gonna feel really bad for me or not. You're 1120 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: gonna think of an idiot. But okay, So I was 1121 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 3: it was COVID, and I was, there's like the beginning 1122 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 3: of it. We didn't know what was happening. 1123 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 2: I was like dating this person and. 1124 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: I'd like found out that he was like texting someone. 1125 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: So then I was like, you know what, And. 1126 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 3: I'm so crazy because I was with his brother earlier 1127 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 3: that day too, and I was like I never want 1128 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: to be in this situation and blah blah blah. And 1129 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 3: then I went back to the house and there was 1130 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: just a computer screen that was just open, and I 1131 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 3: was like putting his keys down. I was like, that's crazy. 1132 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 3: It's just open on a text message. That's really insane. 1133 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 2: So I was like, I just I think it was 1134 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: maybe Kelly. 1135 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 3: Rowland that I saw, like say, an interview and she 1136 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 3: was like, just don't scroll up or something like that. 1137 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it wasn't her, I'm wrong person, 1138 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 3: but I saw something and there was like a woman 1139 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 3: saying like, just never if you see like someone's phone open, 1140 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 3: just never scroll up. 1141 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: And I was like no, I'm aa scroll up and 1142 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 2: so I. 1143 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 3: And so I scrolled up and what do you know, 1144 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 3: There's just like nudes and this, and then I was like, 1145 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 3: oh no. 1146 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 2: He immediately called his mom and I was like, uh 1147 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 2: uh get yes, I come get me. I gotta go. 1148 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 3: And then she was like I'm so sorry, like this 1149 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 3: is all my fall I raised him this way. 1150 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: I was like that is a grown man, like he whatever. 1151 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 3: And then so that and I called my other friend 1152 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 3: that lived in the same area and I was like, 1153 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 3: come get me, like I have to leave, like blah 1154 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 3: blah blah whatever. I then like I bring the computer 1155 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 3: to the guy and I'm like this is you, Like, this. 1156 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: Is what you're doing. It's COVID. 1157 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 3: You're trying to cheat on me during COVID, Like that's crazy. 1158 00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna go bring COVID back? Are you in sane? 1159 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 3: And then and then he's like, why are you in 1160 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 3: my phone? And I was just like that's what you 1161 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 3: have to say. And I was like he was like, well, Ef, 1162 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 3: you're so unhappy, then leave and I was like, I 1163 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 3: am leaving, but I just wanted you to give you 1164 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 3: the opportunity and he was like whatever anyway, So then 1165 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: something happened. And this is like at a time where 1166 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 3: like because of COVID, like we were doing like live 1167 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 3: for brands and like doing like mini performances, and so 1168 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 3: I had to do a performance for like Levi's or something, 1169 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 3: and I had to go live and the time was coming, 1170 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 3: but all of this was happening, and I was like, shoot, 1171 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna have to do this performance here, like 1172 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 3: I have to set up and like so I can't leave, 1173 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 3: and so like I'm like, this is the worst moment ever. 1174 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 3: So I'm sitting and like and he's like, just do 1175 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 3: the performance here, and I was like, don't talk to me, like, 1176 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 3: don't speak, actually, just shut up forever. 1177 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 2: And so I'm just like whatever. 1178 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 3: And then his brother and his mom come and like 1179 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 3: they're helping me and he's just like, I don't know 1180 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 3: what the hell he's doing. They had to leave because 1181 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 3: they had to go do something or go home or whatever. 1182 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 3: And so I'm sitting there and I set up the 1183 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 3: phone and then he like I pressed start and then 1184 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 3: he comes into where I'm doing the live sits in 1185 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 3: front of me while I'm singing doing the performance, and 1186 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 3: every time I finished the song, he would clap. 1187 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it was horrible. 1188 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 2: And then. 1189 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm on live, so I had to like pretend like 1190 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 3: nothing was happening, and he was just empty room, just him. 1191 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, you should rot now, and then I left. 1192 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of funny. That's wrong. 1193 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 4: Some ship is so bad. 1194 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 2: So bad. 1195 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 3: But you know, it was really funny because when my 1196 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 3: birthday came around to get back, because at that point 1197 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: I was like I was long ago, I was like 1198 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 3: I left the whole stay. I was like goodbye. And 1199 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 3: then he reached out to all my friends like trying 1200 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 3: to be like I need to make this up to her, 1201 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 3: like I mess things up, Like reached out to my 1202 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 3: managers at the time, all my best friends. He was like, 1203 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 3: I need to come to l A and surprise her, 1204 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 3: and they were like no, like, we don't think that's 1205 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 3: a good idea, like send flowers so haha, jokes on him. 1206 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, so no, get back, no goodbye, you're trash. 1207 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh she found her camera too. 1208 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 3: But when I look back at these moments, I'm like, honestly, 1209 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 3: like you have to laugh, Like it was traumatic in 1210 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 3: the in the moment, but it's like and also I 1211 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 3: learn my lesson. 1212 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: But that's a that's like a scene movie that wasn't 1213 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: don't do with people, have another place to perform. 1214 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 3: No, the lesson was if I ever am dating someone 1215 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 3: and I feel the need that I need to look 1216 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 3: through their ship, you probably should shouldn't be with them. 1217 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: That's that's the lesson. Also, find a closer venue. 1218 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: I live by that. If I got to look check 1219 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: after you run out, it ain't worth it. I don't 1220 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: have the time. 1221 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have never told that story. 1222 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: We thank you here at the Army the podcast that 1223 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: that might be top too, That might be top too. 1224 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I ain't saying that. No, I'm saying it's between you. 1225 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: It's between you. You don't want to say who else? 1226 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Between you and somebody else for top spot. I ain't 1227 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: saying the names great recovery. That was really good. Thank 1228 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: you for coming and turning out with old people. Well 1229 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm here, you know, I like they always ask ask 1230 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: if he's my son. That's how you do see it. 1231 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: But thank you. Always got a home at R and 1232 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: B Money. You know that, and we will continue to 1233 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: support you, uplift you, shine the light on you. Whatever 1234 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: you need us to do, we are here. We are 1235 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: at your disposal. Continue to be great, continue to be grown. 1236 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 6: Ish, and keep the music coming. 1237 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know what I'm saying. 1238 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 4: And you yeah, But she owns Collide, run it up, 1239 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 4: the other songs, whatever one she's own. 1240 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Whole dark side, you stream it, you buy it. 1241 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 6: TikTok to it, Come on take that, tell us, come. 1242 01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Tak talk, Come on ticketing, Get out of there. All right. 1243 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: My name is Tank, I'm Valentine and this is the 1244 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: R and B Money podcast, the authority on all things 1245 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: R and B. 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