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Speaker 7: Welcome to the War Room.

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Speaker 6: It's Friday, December fifth, in the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five. Natalie Winter's hosting today. We've got a

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Speaker 6: Of course, war room favorite former Congressman Matt Gates.

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Speaker 10: My thoughts are these first, all of these documents national

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Speaker 6: We're gonna hit Mike Davis real quick, but then we're

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Speaker 7: Mike Davis.

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Speaker 6: There's some movement on all things Scotus and birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 6: You had a great piece in Fox a few months back,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the most crucial decisions that

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Speaker 6: Mike Davis, thank you for breaking that down for us.

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Speaker 6: You know you've got to bounce. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Natalie. It's article three, Project dot org. Article

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Speaker 9: big one. I know that ticked off a lot of

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Speaker 9: leadership as well, but it was truthful. I've criticized them

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Speaker 9: on their business dealings with Qatar and meeting with guitar leadership,

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Speaker 9: and I've criticized them over classifying the Vegas cyber truck

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Speaker 9: explosion at place outside of the Trump Hotel. I think

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Speaker 9: it was January first they classified the manifesto. So I

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Speaker 9: have been outspoken more than they all were under the

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Speaker 9: Biden regime. If you remember, Lloyd Austin went missing and

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Speaker 9: the corporate media didn't hold any of them accountable part

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Speaker 9: of that administration, So you know they're going to sit

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Speaker 9: here and push back. When you saw that lawsuit, they

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Speaker 9: dropped names. They went after Laura Lumer, they went after

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Speaker 9: James O'Keeffe, they went after even Raheem Kassam, who wasn't

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Speaker 9: even there that day for the media that we were doing,

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Speaker 9: they went after him. So they've gone after a lot

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Speaker 9: of people, but they particularly didn't put my name in

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Speaker 9: there because they reached out to me in October and

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Speaker 9: I completely debunked their entire argument, and because they didn't

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Speaker 9: have a rebuttal for it, they left me out. So

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Speaker 9: I think that there's going to be a massive victory

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Speaker 9: for the Pentagon when they go to court over this.

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Speaker 9: I know. I asked specifically the spokesman, Sean Parnell his

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Speaker 9: reaction to the lawsuit, and he's looking forward to fighting

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Speaker 9: this in court, he told me. But I have handed

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Speaker 9: over that email that was sent over to the New

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Speaker 9: York Times prior to filing that lawsuit, So I don't

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Speaker 9: think it's going to go over well for them when

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Speaker 9: they sit there and pretend like this is exclusively towards

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Speaker 9: MAGA talking heads. We aren't. Even Laura Lumer has actually

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Speaker 9: grilled a lot of the officials at the Pentagon, and

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Speaker 9: when I was there, she was grilling them as well,

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Speaker 9: right in front of all of us. So we're not

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Speaker 9: MAGA absolutists like cultists, like they were trying to make

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Speaker 9: it sound like your individuals were going to go there

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Speaker 9: and ask questions that they didn't have the guts to ask.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's the first time

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Speaker 6: I've ever seen a Pentagon official actually be held to

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Speaker 6: task on the delays of you know, these defense primes

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Speaker 6: that seem to have no ramifications or repercussions for their

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Speaker 6: actions that gravely endanger national security. So I think that's

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Speaker 6: pretty good good reporting if you ask me off to

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Speaker 6: a good.

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Speaker 7: Start, Brianna. We're very glad that you are there.

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Speaker 6: If people want to follow you, stay up to date

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Speaker 6: with everything you're working on, not just at the Pentagon,

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Speaker 6: but elsewhere where can they go to do that?

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Speaker 9: Of the American Journal over on info Wars every single morning,

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Speaker 9: so you could find me there. You could also find

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Speaker 9: me on x at Brianna Morello, thank.

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Speaker 6: You man for joining us, and good luck tough enough

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Speaker 6: toughen it out at the Pentagon.

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Speaker 6: Of course, to continue drilling down with dot com there

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Speaker 6: on the national security strategy, which you know.

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Speaker 7: To be very blunt.

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Speaker 6: I think describing China solely through the lens of an

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Speaker 6: economic potentially collaborator partner at best is not really what

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Speaker 6: the Chinese Communist Party is to the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: The term Chinese Communist Party is not actually even mentioned

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Speaker 6: in there. There's also a I think quite noticeable shift.

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Speaker 6: There's no mention of the ideological differences, or at least

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Speaker 6: framing it through a battle between democracy and autocracy. The

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Speaker 6: only country or kind of continent that is criticized for

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Speaker 6: their human rights abuses is Europe. They actually go so

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Speaker 6: far as describing China as having the potential to be

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Speaker 6: a quote mutually an advantageous economic relationship.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to go with no. I'm actually going to

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Speaker 7: go with the hard no on that one.

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Speaker 6: I would say, just ask the American workers who've lost

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Speaker 6: their jobs and everyone whose IP has been stolen.

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Speaker 7: We're going to get more into that right after this break, poor.

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Speaker 8: Room, here's your host, Stephen k Ban.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the courroom. Doctor there, thank you for

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Speaker 6: waiting patiently. I want to kind of reopen the discussion

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Speaker 6: we were having, even if Ustramian or rather Steelman, the

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Speaker 6: argument that the NSS makes with regard to China being

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Speaker 6: an economic partner, which I struggle to see. I mean,

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Speaker 6: is it even possible. What do you take of that

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Speaker 6: lens of analyzing China.

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Speaker 10: Well, as we were saying, the document reaches a lot

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Speaker 10: of different audiences and it's quite explicit about Europe, the

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Speaker 10: economic the Western hemisphere. The document also, as you were

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Speaker 10: alluding to, Natalie Missus, just missus, the target on the

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Speaker 10: People's Republic of China and the threat from the Chinese

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Speaker 10: Communist Party.

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Speaker 5: The document there is really threat deflating.

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Speaker 10: Still, it's not calling attention to the hyper aggression of

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Speaker 10: the CCP. It does have good things to say about

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Speaker 10: Taiwan and deterrence, it does have good things to say

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Speaker 10: about Japan and South Korea and the roles that they.

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Speaker 5: Can play, but it's really missing.

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Speaker 10: The target here on the threat from the twenty first century,

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Speaker 10: which is the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot good in the document.

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Speaker 10: Again, particularly calling out the Europeans for their censorship, their

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Speaker 10: demography and their immigration, but on the People's Republic of China,

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Speaker 10: there's a lot that should have been added into the document,

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Speaker 10: and of course we appreciate that you can't put everything into.

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Speaker 5: The document that you want to, but this is a

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Speaker 5: big one.

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Speaker 10: When it comes to this issue, this is the threat

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Speaker 10: of the twenty first century. It's the threat that really

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Speaker 10: is interwoven with the homeland, the emphasis on the homeland,

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Speaker 10: the emphasis on the Western hemisphere, and the Trump corollary

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Speaker 10: to the Monroe doctrine, right, which is in essence that

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Speaker 10: we're not going to allow external powers that is China,

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Speaker 10: the People's Republic, to use the Western hemisphere to hurt

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Speaker 10: Americans and to hurt our interests in the Western hemisphere. Well,

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Speaker 10: all roads go back to Beijing on that, and to

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Speaker 10: my mind, in my opinion, it should have been drawn

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Speaker 10: out in the document so that when we reflect on

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Speaker 10: the national security, of the national security strategy of the

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Speaker 10: US and the audiences that we want to reach with

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Speaker 10: that it would be quite clear that Washington sees Beijing

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Speaker 10: really to borrow from Reagan right in nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 10: as the center of evil in the modern world. So that, uh, was,

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Speaker 10: I think a very important point, as you're suggesting.

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Speaker 6: On the Taiwan front, I think there's some interesting quotes.

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Speaker 7: What is both there and omitted. One saying that the

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Speaker 7: US does not support Taiwan independence. That is not in there.

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Speaker 6: Usually that's you know, rhetoric that you'll typically see what

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Speaker 6: there's not an explicit disclaimer, which I think is a

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Speaker 6: good thing to see. But also in talking about the

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Speaker 6: military aspect there it's written quote to turning a conflict

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Speaker 6: over Taiwan ideally by preserving military overmatch is a priority.

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Speaker 6: I think the use of ideally there as opposed to,

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Speaker 6: you know, necessarily or that it's a given, there's an

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Speaker 6: interesting kind of wide aperture there to understand what exactly

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Speaker 6: that means. Can you drill down a bit on what

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Speaker 6: this means for Taiwan, both juxtaposing it historically, but also

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Speaker 6: if you this seems to be like maybe the most

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Speaker 6: we've really gotten from the Trump administry in a concrete

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Speaker 6: form on Taiwan.

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Speaker 7: But what you think this bode is looking into the future.

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Speaker 10: And again it's important because it is the national security

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Speaker 10: strategy of the US.

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Speaker 5: So the language is not the way you would write it.

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Speaker 10: Or the way I would write it, certainly, and it

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Speaker 10: does seem to really alid in to a calculated the

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Speaker 10: ambiguity that then that previous administrations have emphasized Taiwan's important

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Speaker 10: for the US. Of course for economic reasons, the chip

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Speaker 10: producers of course, and if we were to lose that

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Speaker 10: in the short term, that would be disastrous for the economy.

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Speaker 10: It's also important in military terms because it's in essence

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Speaker 10: the cork in the bottle on the first island chain

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Speaker 10: occupies key geostrategic space. And then thirdly, it's important in

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Speaker 10: political warfare context because it shows what China could be

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Speaker 10: if it were democratic, right, if the Communists hadn't come

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Speaker 10: to power in nineteen forty nine, the people of China

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Speaker 10: could be living as freely as the people.

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Speaker 5: Of Taiwan do.

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Speaker 10: So it's important for all of those reasons, and it

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Speaker 10: would have been I think it would have been quite useful.

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Speaker 10: It would have been strategically helpful for all audiences globally

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Speaker 10: for those points to be in that document. But nonetheless

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Speaker 10: it does make the remarks as you suggested, as you

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Speaker 10: called out regarding deterrence in Taiwan. So the document again

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Speaker 10: really gets back to it's written through an economic lens,

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Speaker 10: and when you see the world the way economists and

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Speaker 10: the way financiers do it, you miss a lot of

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Speaker 10: the strategy, and you miss a lot of important points

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Speaker 10: that are relevant to geostrategy. The geostrategic position of the US,

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Speaker 10: and so those elements I think were there at the

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Speaker 10: same time. Of course, with the emphasis on Western hemisphere

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Speaker 10: and the emphasis of course on the other points that

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Speaker 10: we've talked about, those of course are to the great

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Speaker 10: credit of the document.

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Speaker 7: I'm curious.

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Speaker 6: I want to sort of play devil's advocate and buy that.

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Speaker 6: I mean what the mainstream media and their think tank

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Speaker 6: counterparts will say. I want to read what is a

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Speaker 6: quote that I think has gotten a lot of positive

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Speaker 6: traction from the MAGA side of the fence, which is quote,

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Speaker 6: our leads badly miscalculated America's willingness to shoulder forever global

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Speaker 6: burdens to which the American people saw no connection to

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Speaker 6: the national interest.

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Speaker 7: It goes on. There's a lot of rhetoric.

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Speaker 6: Like this, But to the critics who would say that

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Speaker 6: this is essentially the United States abdicating its role, it's

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Speaker 6: putting in the world stage and frankly letting China almost

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Speaker 6: supplant them or replace them, or saying that at least

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Speaker 6: you're going to have some sort of you know, bipolar

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Speaker 6: if not.

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Speaker 7: I saw an article today talking about a trilateral world order.

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Speaker 6: What would you say to people were saying that this

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Speaker 6: is the United States abandoning its role in the world.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's not and clear the document doesn't say that,

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Speaker 10: and the sky isn't falling in that respect. I think

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Speaker 10: that the document is quite clear under the Trump administration,

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Speaker 10: the direction of US strategy, how the US defines strategy,

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Speaker 10: how it defines its national interest, as the document is

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Speaker 10: clear in stating is changing and as a result of that,

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Speaker 10: other countries are going to have to adjust to it.

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Speaker 10: But the document is quite clear regarding the importance of

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Speaker 10: the US nuclear deterrent and the role of that plays.

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Speaker 10: It's quite clear on the role of military power, the

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Speaker 10: US military power, and the need for the US to

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Speaker 10: maintain its dominance in the conventional realm as well as

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Speaker 10: in the cyber realm and other realms as well.

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Speaker 5: So it's not.

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Speaker 10: Essentially abandoning the rest of the world world to retreat

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Speaker 10: back to the Western hemisphere. It's doing its utmost to say,

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Speaker 10: we need to recalculate we had spent too much blood

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Speaker 10: and treasure in Sencom, We spent too much blood and

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Speaker 10: treasure in the Middle East, if you will larger Middle East,

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Speaker 10: Southwest Asia. That has to change. There has to be

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Speaker 10: an emphasis on the Indo Pacific. There has to be

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Speaker 10: an emphasis on the Western hemisphere, and there has to

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Speaker 10: be an emphasis in Europe. The problem in Europe is

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Speaker 10: not just Ukraine. It's not Russia and Ukraine. The problem

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Speaker 10: in Europe is demographic change, immigration and censorship, right, increasing totalitarianism.

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Speaker 5: In Europe, driven largely by the EU.

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Speaker 10: And so when you're changing the rudder, when you're changing course,

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Speaker 10: I think it's important to recognize the new direction, that

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Speaker 10: that new direction does not come at the cost really

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Speaker 10: other existing commitments that the United States has. Again is

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Speaker 10: the document is clear in its section on the Middle East, right,

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Speaker 10: it's saying that we're moving away in terms of emphasis

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Speaker 10: from the Middle East, but there's still US still has

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Speaker 10: many interests in the Middle East that the United States

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Speaker 10: will defend, as well as in Africa too. So it's

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Speaker 10: always best to consult the document itself rather than relying

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Speaker 10: on what the media are saying about it. And when

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Speaker 10: you do so, I think you can see those differences.

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Speaker 10: And that's quite clear in the front matter in the

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Speaker 10: document when they're talking about strategy, what the Trump administration

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Speaker 10: means by strategy and what the Trump administration means by

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Speaker 10: national interests. And then Thirdly, and the document says again

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Speaker 10: quite explicitly, that we're not.

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Speaker 5: De emphasizing areas of the world.

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Speaker 10: What we're doing is we're just in this document calling

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Speaker 10: attention to areas that have been neglect like the homeland,

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Speaker 10: like the Western hemisphere, and.

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Speaker 5: Threats that have been building for decades.

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Speaker 10: Obviously the China in that respect, but how Europe has

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Speaker 10: gone down the wrong course, as taking the wrong path

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Speaker 10: and is at risk of, as the document says, civilizational erasure,

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Speaker 10: which would be incredibly damaging of course for a Western

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Speaker 10: hemisphere and for the United States itself and how the

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Speaker 10: United States defines itself.

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Speaker 6: Doctor Sayer, as always, thank you for joining us. I

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Speaker 6: really appreciate you breaking this down and indulging I got

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Speaker 6: all over the place questions if people want to follow

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Speaker 6: you and stay up to date with everything you're writing,

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Speaker 6: posting on Getter all of that, where can they go

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Speaker 6: to do that?

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Speaker 5: Well, Natalie, great to see you again.

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Speaker 10: I'm at bradthaor on X and Bradley's there and Ghetter

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Speaker 10: and on Truth.

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Speaker 5: Thanks very much, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it. And I think we got Joe Allen.

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Speaker 6: I had to have Joe Allen back on after Wednesday's show.

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Speaker 6: I think we made some news in our crusade against

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Speaker 6: the big tech bros.

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Speaker 7: You've got a few minutes, Joe.

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Speaker 6: I want to hold you through the break, but just

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Speaker 6: give me the latest on everything we're talking about Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: Where we stand on the sort of AI regulation tussle.

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Speaker 11: Well, Natalie, the tussle continues.

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Speaker 12: David Sachs and company are still pushing for the executive

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Speaker 12: order that would preempt state laws on artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 11: There is quite a bit of a struggle at the

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Speaker 11: White House.

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Speaker 12: At the moment, I am at least reasonably confident that

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Speaker 12: we have a fighting chance to ensure that President Trump

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Speaker 12: gets the message and does not side with Sacks. There

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Speaker 12: are a lot of different voices in the White House

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Speaker 12: pushing the President to make a decision one way or

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Speaker 12: the other. I've heard, and it's fairly reliable that everyone

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Speaker 12: from Mark Rubio to d and I Tulci Gabbard to

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Speaker 12: the UN Ambassador Mike Waltz are voicing real caution and

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Speaker 12: urging the President to leave AI legislation up to the states,

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Speaker 12: or at the very least to allow states to pass

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Speaker 12: laws to regulate AI.

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Speaker 11: To mitigate the damage and to ensure that they.

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Speaker 12: Have the right to chart their own course into this

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Speaker 12: bizarre future that we're entering into. And of course you

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Speaker 12: have on the other side of that, David Sachs and Company.

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Speaker 11: JD. Vance has yet to speak out on this.

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Speaker 12: As far as I know, it seems with all of

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Speaker 12: his connections to the tech industry, he should have a

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Speaker 12: very strong opinion on this. One would hope that Vance

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Speaker 12: would come out against an EO that would restrict states

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Speaker 12: from legislating on AI, so the War Room POSSE actually

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Speaker 12: can let their voices be heard. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 12: much of a political activist, Natalie, but on this I

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Speaker 12: think it's really important that the POSSE is able to

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Speaker 12: flood the zone and of course flood the phone. So

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Speaker 12: I urge you to call the White House and respectfully

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Speaker 12: state your support for states' rights in artificial intelligence. Just

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Speaker 12: tell them you want your state to have the right

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Speaker 12: to determine its own future. As AI becomes more and

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Speaker 12: more ubiquitous. The POSSE can call two zero two five

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Speaker 12: be as polite and respectful as possible.

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Speaker 11: And I'll repeat this again after the break.

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Speaker 6: As Steve would say give them via old what foreign

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Speaker 7: We will be right back after this short break. More

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Speaker 6: in the war room. We've got more Joe Allen for you. Joe,

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Speaker 6: I'm curious. Feel free to pick up where you left

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Speaker 6: off if there's anything else that you think this audience

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Speaker 6: needs to know that can better inform the phone calls,

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Speaker 6: the emails, whatever they're going to do to get the

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Speaker 6: message out there. But was this a you know, executive

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Speaker 6: order that you think was just supposed to sort of

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Speaker 6: be done. Maybe we'll call it in the style of Biden,

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Speaker 6: but done and you know the dead and night at midnight.

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Speaker 6: There really wasn't ever supposed to be a stink about it.

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Speaker 6: No one is ever supposed to really catch on. It

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Speaker 6: was just sports supposed to sort of euphemistically be passed passed.

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Speaker 6: You know, people are too bored to look at the

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Speaker 6: intricacies of regulations, and is it really just up to

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Speaker 12: You know, That's a really good question, Natalie, because you

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Speaker 12: know the EO leak. The draft came out right when

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Speaker 12: the moratorium language was pulled from the NDAA, so you

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Speaker 12: had that fight going on, and it's unclear.

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Speaker 11: I don't know why it got leaked.

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Speaker 12: It's quite possible that it got leaked intentionally in order

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Speaker 12: to gauge public sentiment around this. And should President Trump

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Speaker 12: have an executive order presented to him on federal preemption,

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Speaker 12: it's possible, and I hope that this is the case,

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Speaker 12: that the language is softened tremendously, because the draft of

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Speaker 12: the EO would empower, if signed, would empower the Department

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Speaker 12: of Justice to sue to file suit against any state

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Speaker 12: whose AI laws ran a foul of the national AI agenda. Now,

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Speaker 12: in my opinion, I can completely understand why, from a

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Speaker 12: national security perspective, or from even a medical perspective, possibly

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Speaker 12: an economic perspective, why you would want to have one policy,

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Speaker 12: one framework to allow AI companies to operate without interference

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Speaker 12: from states. But that's not the primary thrust of AI

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Speaker 12: as we see it right now. The primary thrust we

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Speaker 12: see the four frontier companies deploying their models completely recklessly.

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Speaker 12: We see it's very obvious kids and even adults brains

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Speaker 12: being completely fried by large language models, endless generation of

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Speaker 12: AI produced slop flooding the Internet. You have the specter

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Speaker 12: of deep fakes creeping up on our heels. And that's

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Speaker 12: why you have people like Ron Descentes coming out with

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Speaker 12: the AI Bill of Rights in Florida. Now, from say

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Speaker 12: a Trump perspective, from President Trump's perspective, Ron Descents came

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Speaker 12: against the president in the primaries.

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Speaker 11: You don't want Ron.

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Speaker 12: Descentes to have the reins on MAGA if you want

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Speaker 12: to put your stamp on the future, because without a doubt,

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Speaker 12: the sentiment of the country is not in favor of

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Speaker 12: federal preemption. The sentiment of the country is to give

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Speaker 12: each state their freedom to determine the path forward into

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Speaker 12: an artificial intelligence saturated future. So the real key message here,

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Speaker 12: if you're going to call the White House, if you're

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Speaker 12: going to call your senator, if you're going to call

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Speaker 12: your representatives, you need to give a positive statement. We

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Speaker 12: want states to have the right to pass laws regarding

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Speaker 12: artificial intelligence. We do not want federal preemption. We do

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Speaker 12: not want a moratorium on states' rights. So that number

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Speaker 12: again Natalie for the posse, call the White House as

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Speaker 12: politely and respectfully as you possibly can, and I know

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Speaker 12: some of y'all are wild. As politely as you can,

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Speaker 12: just tell them we want states to have the right

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Speaker 12: to pass laws regulating and legislating AI. The number is

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Speaker 12: two zero, two four five six one four one four

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Speaker 12: if you get an answering machine. Again, as respectfully as

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Speaker 12: you can. And I only say this because I know

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Speaker 12: how wild you are when you come out to my talks.

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Speaker 12: Just state we want the right our state to have

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Speaker 12: the right to determine our own future. We do not

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Speaker 12: want an AI moratorium. We want the right to legislate

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Speaker 12: and mitigate the damage of artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 6: Joe Allen, if people want to follow you keep up

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Speaker 6: to date with everything you've got going on, where can

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Speaker 6: they go to do that?

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Speaker 12: You can find me on social media at Joe bot

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Speaker 12: x y z or my website joebot dot xyz.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much, Natalie, Thank you Joe for coming

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Speaker 7: back on. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: More imposse trying to track down Mike Lindell, but I

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Speaker 6: think that means you got two.

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Speaker 7: More minutes of me.

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Speaker 6: I think it's really important for this audience to get

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Speaker 6: the signal and not the noise on all things related

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Speaker 6: to this national security strategy twofold one. Obviously, we are

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Speaker 6: here in the war room where the heart the tip

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Speaker 6: of the speer when it comes to prioritizing the homeland

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Speaker 6: and homeland defense.

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Speaker 7: And securing the border.

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Speaker 6: But I think if the Trump administration wants to say

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Speaker 6: that that is their priority, then they really need to

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Speaker 6: not double triple, but quadruple down on actually making sure

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Speaker 6: these mass deportations are that our mass are massive and

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Speaker 6: are actually deportations, not just tweeting that we're going to

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Speaker 6: end migration from third world countries, but actually do it

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Speaker 6: in a codified legal way.

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Speaker 7: And it's not just.

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Speaker 6: About turning off the water, turning off the tap. It's

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Speaker 6: also about retroactively going back and rooting out all of

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Speaker 6: these third world migrants who are destroying this country. That's

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Speaker 6: obviously the largest threat to this country. But you can

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Speaker 6: also I think walk and chew gum at the same time,

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Speaker 6: which is realizing the existential threat that is the Chinese

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Speaker 6: Communist Party. And it's quite interesting there's a section there

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Speaker 6: where they enumerate bullet point after bullet point after bullet

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Speaker 6: point basically all the egregious acts, frankly of war, certainly

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Speaker 6: unrestricted war that China has engaged in against the United States,

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Speaker 6: But instead of calling out the Chinese Communist Party by name,

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Speaker 6: they just hypothetically say, well, any country that has engaged

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Speaker 6: in this, whether it's propaganda, IP, theft, robbing workers of

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Speaker 6: their wages.

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Speaker 7: Take your pick.

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Speaker 6: I think the Trump administration should have the courage to

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Speaker 6: call out the Chinese Communist Party, to call out China

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Speaker 6: by name, and not treat them like the Bill Clinton's

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Speaker 6: and the Democrats and they established Republicans of the world

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Speaker 6: have for decades, which is an economic partner. Because you guys,

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Speaker 6: this audience, you don't get to see the upside of that.

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Speaker 7: It's the one percent that does more on that. We've

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Speaker 7: got a pack show this weekend and of course next week.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for hanging with me. I'll see y'll soon.