1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Made it to a Thursday. It's hour one 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Dan and the Danet's Dan Patrick Show come in stay awhile. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: You can watch on Peacock all three hours for free. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Download the app. Our great TV partners say good morning 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: to our radio affiliates numbering over three hundred and seventy 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: cities around the country. Chat row if you'd like to 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: dial this up, you can, you can email, you can tweet. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Operator Marvin is standing by. We'll have a poll question, 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: play of the day, stat of the day, and in 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: another suggestion for the Christmas holidays, you need some no 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: brainer gifts. We've got at T shirts, hoodies, the twenty 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty one calendar, everything you need if you're a fan 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of this show at dan Patrick dot com. Well, the 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten officially changed its own rule regarding the minimum 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: number of games required to reach the conference title game. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Teams were supposed to play at least six games. I 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: don't know why the Big Ten did this to begin with, 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: because they knew what they were up against, so they 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: created an obstacle for themselves, and they're already obstacles there. 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: They reversed course to allow Ohio State and Northwestern to 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: compete for the championship. Critics can't understand why the Big 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Ten was being so rigid in the first place. It's 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: not like they had hard and fast rules here in 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: place before this, and it's meant a lot of people 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: pointed out on social media, this is a conference called 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and there's fourteen teams in the Big Ten. 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: They're not great on details. They've been pretty inconsistent all 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: year long. You cancel this season, you tell Nebraska you 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: can't go rogue here, and then you realize maybe Ohio 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: State and Wisconsin they want to go rogue here if 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: some of their games are canceled. Ohio State has three 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: games canceled. Okay, Ohio State is the best team in 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, the Big Ten, they've changed their minds. 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't necessarily have to play for a conference 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: title to be in the final four, but the conference 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: realizes they would love to have Ohio State in the 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: conference championship game. Another victory, I guess could help if 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: they beat Northwestern here. I don't think go Ohio State 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: has to play another game because let's put it this way, 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: if Ohio State beats Northwestern for the Big Ten title. 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't change anything. If Florida beats Alabama, Florida and 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Alabama are going to be in the final four. If 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Clemson beats Notre Dame, Clemson and Notre Dame are going 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: to be in the final four. It doesn't matter what 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State does. If I'm Ohio State, I'd I'd rather 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: play a second place team than I would Northwestern. I mean, 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: I'm just applying logic to this. If you're going to 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: put Ohio State in the final four and they had 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: their game canceled and they stayed in the final four 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: beating Northwestern, that's not going to change anything if Alabama 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: loses and Notre Dame loses, because it feels like the 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: committee will reward Clemson and Florida and it doesn't matter 54 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: what Ohio State does. But you know, people were saying 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: on social media, have them play Texas A and M. 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Why if I'm Ohio State, I don't want to. I 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: don't have to run the risk of anything here. You 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: already put me in the final four. A and M 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: needs the game against Ohio State, not the other way around. Also, 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: what we've seen, we pulled back the curtain completely on 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: college football. It's basically about ten to twelve schools that 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: have a chance that we really care about and that 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: the Selection Committee will look at and value what they do. 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Iowa States had a wonderful season, but should they be 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: ranked where they're ranked, whether they're ranked there, because they're 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: in a Power five conference. And this is where college 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: football needs to have a coming to Jesus meeting and say, 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: let's stop being phony here. Let's have the Power five 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: they play for a national championship. And if you want 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: to have another championship for the other schools like Cincinnati, 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: like Louisiana Coastal Carolina. But let's not kid anybody here, 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: because I tune into the Selection Show on Tuesday night 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: and I trust Reese Davis means well, and he's gonna 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: tell me what's really happening. And what I see every 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Tuesday night is it's the same nonsense over and over 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: and over. Oh this is a great story. Oh this 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: is a great story. Now here are the teams that 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: really matter in college football. You know, the Sun Belt 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Conference has done well this year, but the Sun Belt 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Conference is not going to be rewarded. And as Pat 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Forty pointed out, in his great column. The final proof 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: was presented in the following rankings. Iowa State number seven, 83 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati number eight, Coastal Carolina number thirteen, by number eighteen, 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: Louisiana's number nineteen, and he says, you will never have 85 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a team outside the Power five conferences make the college 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: football playoff, and then he follows that up by saying, 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: ever ever, Iowa State lost at season open to Louisiana 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: by seventeen points, it doesn't matter, and the raging Cajuns 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: are a fun story. Doesn't matter. Cincinnati's got no chance 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: in here in Coastal Carolina does. Coastal Carolina did what 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you want. This is what we want you step up 92 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: and say, bring it on, b YU, Bring it on. 93 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: They did what we want them to do. They want 94 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: to find somebody to play. And that's the best game 95 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: of the year. And what was the reward we told you, 96 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: b YU, wasn't that good? Not Coastal Carolina is a 97 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: nice story. We don't allow you to dream in college football. 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: And then here's the Big Ten embarrassing itself. Oh my god, 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: what are we doing? We said six games, I know, 100 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: but we don't need six games. Nobody cares you know, 101 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: we wrote it down in pencil just to raise it. 102 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: Put five and then look, I want to see Ohio 103 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: State play. I want to see Justin Fields. I want 104 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: to see all that talent out there. Absolutely, but let's 105 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: not kid ourselves in saying, you know, they really earned it. 106 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: They didn't. But they're probably going to play for, you know, 107 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: the final four in a national championship. There all the 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: other sports. When you think about it, there's always a chance. 109 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Right If I said, you know what, we can't let 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions in because they've been bad for decades. 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: But if they qualified, then okay, but still we don't 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: want them in. They're not any good like you don't. 113 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: You don't dare to dream when it comes to college football. 114 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: And that's a shame because March Madness is built on 115 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: a dream. It really is. Everybody gets a chance. You 116 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: can be a sixteen seed and knock off a number 117 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: one seed. Now, granted we get further along in the tournament, 118 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: we do want to see great teams play for the championship. 119 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: But the magic of NC State knocking off Houston, that's 120 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: what we live for, that's what we remember, and we 121 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: don't have that with college football. We don't allow that 122 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: to happen. But this is where the Power five conferences 123 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: need to seceed from the NCAA and just say this 124 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: is business and that's what it is. It's business. What 125 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: they've put those kids through this year. You can't tell 126 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: me all their student athletes, their athletes, everything they've gone through, 127 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: their athletes. But like, let's say USC goes undefeated. Let's 128 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: say they, you know, win the PAC twelve. Should they 129 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: get in if they if they had let's say they 130 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: played for a national championship a couple of years ago, 131 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: or let's say they were in the final four or 132 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: two years ago or a year ago. Do you think 133 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: that the Playoffs Action Committee would be looking at the 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: PAC twelve and USC, Yeah, they would be. And I 135 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: know that we it's a shell game. You're like, you 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: know the three three card monteon you go it's that one, 137 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: and you go, no, it's not eight. You changed it 138 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: on me. No, They've been doing this for years. But 139 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: understand how arbitrary college football is. The fact we'd have 140 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: a mythical national championship. We had co national championships one year, 141 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: Oh you gotta have the BCS. It's one versus two, 142 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: it's the BCS and that's the way to go. And 143 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: no it's not, No, it's not. Now we got four, 144 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: will we get to eight? And if we get to eight, 145 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: is it going to be the Power five Conferences? I 146 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: just like when you see a story and you have 147 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: some fun with it, and it feels like we would 148 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: be more excited to watch a team that you don't 149 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: normally see in there or think can win and they 150 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: get a hint. Now, maybe they get blown out. I 151 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: remember when Hawaii Hawaii qualified for a New Year's Day 152 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: Bowl game. Maybe it was the Sugar Bowl and they 153 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: got blown out. But I just wanted to see it. 154 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: And as an athlete, you just want a chance. And 155 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: sometimes Goliath looks really big, and sometimes, as Boise State 156 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: showed us in the Fiesta Bowl years ago against Oklahoma, 157 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: you can knock down Goliath. And we remember those games. 158 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: If Alabama wins a national title, Clemson wins a national title, 159 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna go okay, that was great. Like who won 160 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: the national title last year? Right? What do you remember 161 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: about that national title? Again, it's the same formula, it's 162 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: the same teams, and it's unfortunate because college football is wonderful, 163 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: but when you're watching, you realize if I'm watching the 164 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: MAC or the Sun Belt or Mountain West, you're just 165 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: playing football. You're not going to get a chance. And 166 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. Now, can you extend it to eight teams? 167 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: You go to eight, then we go to twelve, where 168 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: we go to sixteen. I know we'll water it down, 169 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: but I just I get disappointed when I watch this. 170 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I know what's real, and it feels like we penalize 171 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: these teams who do everything they're supposed to do by you. 172 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: And Coastal Carolina earned my respect in more ways than 173 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: one because they said, let's play, let's put it all 174 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: on the line, and they gave us the greatest college 175 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: football game this season. Nobody got any extra credit, even 176 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. But let's make sure we get the blue 177 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: bloods in there and they're playing for a national championship. 178 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Because you have to understand this as a viewer isn't 179 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: necessarily about merit. This is about money and it's about 180 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: getting eyeballs for people to watch these games. And we 181 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: will Alabama absolutely, Clemson, sure, Notre Dame YEP, Ohio State yep, 182 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: IF Texas A and M had Johnny Manziel. I had 183 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: somebody tell me this last night. Source said, you know, 184 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I know, you say, nobody wants to watch A and M. 185 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: I go, no, they don't. And he said, well, what 186 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: if Johnny Manziel was playing? I said, A and M 187 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: would have a damn good chance of making it into 188 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: the final four. Let's let's not make any any false 189 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: pretenses here. This is about who do we get to 190 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: see and why you want to see them, And I 191 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: think you have to understand that. And that's a harsh reality. 192 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't like seeing it. I love the underdog. And 193 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: I've covered this. I covered sports for forty years now, 194 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and it's littered with the what if. Oh my gosh, 195 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: did you Villanova against Georgetown? What did they have eight 196 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: losses going in? Oh, you can't have a team with 197 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: eight losses win a national title. That night they won 198 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: the national title. It's just about a moment, and that's 199 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: that's what we remember when the favorites win, Like when 200 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: the Red Sox beat the Cardinals four straight after coming 201 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: back to beat the Yankee is an afterthought. We're like, oh, yeah, 202 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: you beat the Yankees, You're gonna win the world. Serious, 203 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: like we didn't care anymore after that. But I know 204 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm all over the map, but I just get I 205 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: get disappointed, you know when I look at these rankings, 206 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: because there is a glass ceiling, make no mistake about 207 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: it for some of these schools. And that's what the 208 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: NC Double A, well, the Power five conferences should be 209 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: fair to everybody else and just say this is what 210 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: we're doing, and then just go do it. Take sixty 211 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: schools and say this is what we're doing. You want 212 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: to have a ten teen, twelve teen sixteen team playoff 213 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and it's big money and it's they're great, But let's 214 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: let these other schools have something. Division three we have it, 215 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Division two one, Double A we have it. You have 216 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: these teams who are sort of floating into space. And 217 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: that's what I hope the NC Double A will realize 218 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: and say, all right, Power five, go ahead, do what 219 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Let's take care of these other schools here. 220 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Let them play for a championship. It might not be, 221 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, against the best teams in the country, but 222 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: at least you give somebody a goal. I can in 223 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: the IVY League, they just play the Ivy League. That's it. 224 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: They're done, but they at least have a championship there. 225 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: They have something there. They don't play after that. Harvard Yale, 226 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: they don't do anything after that. And that's where they're 227 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: basketball teams. Harvard and Yale play in the NCAA Tournament. 228 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: So it's a glass ceiling. And I agree with Pat forty. 229 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: You're never going to see one of these teams play 230 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: in the Final four. And as much as Iowa stayed 231 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: as an interesting team, they're rewarded for being in the 232 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: Big twelve. Yeah, all right, eight seven seven three d 233 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: P show email address DP Atdan Patrick dot com, Twitter 234 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: handle a dp's show. Ron Rivera from the Washington football 235 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: team will join us. Coming up, Tony Dungee will stop by. 236 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: You can call him a Hall of famer. Al Michaels 237 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. He got the 238 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Ford Frick Award goes to a member of the media. 239 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: People don't realize how good Al Michaels was as a 240 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: baseball announcer. I was fortunate to have him on the 241 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: radio in Cincinnati with the Reds brief period that he 242 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: was there, but Al was great. And then all of 243 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: a sudden we saw Al go on to do a 244 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: lot of different things, you know, the miracle on ice 245 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Al's done everything, but he was 246 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: a great baseball guy. Did Van Monday Night Baseball, did 247 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: a lot of playoff games. World Series games. Started out 248 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: broadcasting in Hawaii doing the baseball games. But Al will 249 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: join is coming up a little bit later. On tonight, 250 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Patriots Rams Rams minus five and Indiana Purdue canceled. LSU 251 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: punished itself Like I thought this was one of those 252 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: onion headlines, like LSU self imposes a bull band and 253 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I went, what what bull? They're not. They're not. They've 254 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: got three wins, they've been blown out their last two weeks. 255 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Many I missed something there because I thought, wow, they're 256 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: falling on the sword. That's really heroic there. If they 257 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: were nine, and oh if if LSU was nine and oh, 258 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: would LSU go, we're not gonna be in the final four. 259 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna take the sanctions here. Yes, yes, 260 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I believe that the right thing, all right, coach, Oh 261 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: thank you, yes, Paulli. It kind of rids me of 262 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: remember back in the nineties day when I told you 263 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna date Pamela. Yes, I'm just myself right now. 264 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: The running. I'm not gonna do it. I you know, 265 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: I thought that that was you know, that was very 266 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, very noble. Yeah, very noble. This program 267 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: brought to be proactive in the situation. Here Dan one 268 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: eight one hundred flowers the Holiday flower tree. You can 269 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: get the gorgeous holiday flower tree fifteen percent off if 270 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: you can't be there over the holidays. This is, by 271 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: the way, happy Hanka to the back row right very much. Yes, 272 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: uh one eight hundred flowers dot com. Click on the 273 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: radio icon, enter code Patrick. Your phone calls are welcome. Mclovit. 274 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: You got a poll question for me before we take 275 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: a break and we get ready to welcome and run Rivera. 276 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: I think we have to go. Are you in favor 277 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: of a sixteen team tournament or you favor of the 278 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: fat that Power five breaking off, some sort of college 279 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: football playoff? Everything you said, just commit. Why not do 280 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: a sixteen game tournament or thirty two games. If you're 281 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: going to get to that point and you're just going 282 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: to have Power five conference teams and it's going to 283 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: be sixty teams, whatever it is, then just do it. 284 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: But don't give us a false pretense here. And that's 285 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: what I think college football has done that. You know, 286 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: what's your number? Sixteen eight, Well, it depends on how 287 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: many regular season games, because you know, the Power five 288 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: conferences get greedy. I don't think a college athlete should 289 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: be playing fifteen or sixteen games during the season. I 290 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's fair to them. If you want to 291 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: cap it at let's say ten or eleven and then 292 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you have a conference championship, or you want to have 293 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: one versus one, two versus two in your own conference, 294 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: then okay, and then you'll go into the playoffs. I'm 295 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: fine with that. But I do think it's time for 296 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: college football to be front and center and just admit 297 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: what is going on and where is the sport headed 298 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: and be fair to all the schools involved in this. 299 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: Because Cincinnati and Coastal I can't imagine those kids getting 300 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: together on Tuesday night to watch that selection committee and 301 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: the results and all of a sudden, you go, wait, 302 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: we dropped. We didn't even play and we dropped Cincinnati 303 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. BYU, what did they get out of it? 304 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: They don't want them to get anywhere. Remember TCU. Remember 305 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: TCU and Baylor were on the doorstep and the committee 306 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh god, we may be putting in TCU 307 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: or Baylor. We gotta get blue bloodsin here. Yes, Pauli, 308 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: you're You're right though, there's just no chance on the 309 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: current system with four teams. You look at Boise State. 310 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: It took them two and a half years to get in. 311 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: They won, they were undefeated for almost for basically two seasons, 312 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati's eight. No, let's say they finished the season 313 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: hypothetically ten and no. Cincinnati or Coastal Carolina finishes ten 314 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: and oh or eleven and oh, that would set them 315 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: up for next year. You got to go undefeated for 316 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: two seasons if you're Cincinnati or Coastal Carolina or Louisiana 317 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: to get because then public pressure or ESPN Fox, they 318 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: start saying, this team's being screwed over, this team's not 319 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: getting it. And that's how Boise State got in because 320 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: the media jumped on the Boise State bandwag. And a 321 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of these schools won't face Cincinnati or BYU or 322 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain. 323 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: But maybe we get to that point one day maybe, 324 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: but not anytime soon. You remember Gonzaga. Gonzaga was the cinderell, 325 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: Oh Gonzaga, Like we were always surprised at Gonzaga and 326 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: then Gonzaga. Nobody flinches now when you go, oh, the 327 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: number one team of the country, Gonzaga. Years ago we 328 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: looked at Gonzaga. I was like, Oh, we don't know 329 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: where it is, we don't know how to pronounce it. 330 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: But boy, they're there every year in the tournament and 331 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: they somehow get to the sweet sixteen or the Elite eight, 332 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: and then we kind of go, you know, Gonzaga is 333 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: really good. They got a Hall of Fame coach and 334 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Mark fu Yeah, PAULI. By the way, I do love 335 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: when you get upset about college athletics. I think that's 336 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: historically from this show is the thing that upsets you 337 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: the most, which is good radio, by the way, but 338 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: I love when you get fired up. It's not good 339 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: TV because we showed Todd and that's part of the 340 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: problem there. That's just not By the way, you were 341 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: a great sport yesterday. At the end of the show, 342 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: you you took your punishment like a man. I gave 343 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: him a pie to the face because he said the 344 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: Cowboys were going to win in the game against the Ravens. 345 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: I almost talked some smack with you guys early on 346 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: when it looked like Dallas maybe doing something special. But 347 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did not start texting you were you 348 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: were a great sport with that. I actually very good 349 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: cherry pie. I ate some of that right off my 350 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: face whatever was left in the tray, Thera, I get 351 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: a good number on that, and I ate some of 352 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: it off your face as well. It was supposed to be. 353 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: All right, Let me take a break. Ron Rivera is 354 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: going to join us. Your phone calls are welcome. Look 355 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: if you find holes in what I'm saying, fire away. 356 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't care. Uh. 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Next game will be Sunday 402 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. I coach, how's morale good? 403 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: It's going real good. I was wondering. I was looking 404 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: back through your stats. Now you played linebacker yep. Did 405 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: you have one touchdown in your career? Yes, yes, my 406 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: second year of Super Bowl season against Detroit. And what 407 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: do you remember about that? I remember scooping it up 408 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: and just sprinting the entire four and a half yards. 409 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Do you have that football? Yes, oh yeah, almost certainly. 410 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: But did somebody else on the defense do the damage 411 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: and then you just cleaned up the leftovers? Is that 412 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: what happened? Oh? Yeah, Hall of Famer Richard Dent stripped 413 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: them and the ball just bounced nice and I scooped 414 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: it perfectly. How would you compare that team with like 415 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: the Steel Curtain, like the greatest defenses of all time? 416 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: And maybe you know your territorial and I understand. I 417 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: think the Steel Curtain was the best defense I ever saw. 418 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting if you compare it by 419 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: by the way they played during their their era. I 420 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: think you have a chance to say which was better 421 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: for that era? Um And and to me, I do 422 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: think the Steel Curtain was was one because you know, 423 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: they want more than one Super Bowl. If we would 424 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: want a second one, I believe me I would be 425 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I would fight everybody tooth and nail, But because we 426 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: only want the one. I'm a little hesitant. Um, but 427 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I still think we are the best. But I'm a 428 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: little hesitant to get into those big fights and arguments 429 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: over it. If you could add anybody to your roster, 430 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: your defense from the eighty five Bears, Oh, without a doubt, 431 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, because Mike made it. Mike made guys around 432 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: him better. Um. He he had a way that that 433 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: he did things. He did things the right way, and 434 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: it kind of spilled over to his teammates. Um, he 435 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: played the right way, and it helped elevate other people's games. 436 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: You know, because when when to me, when when you 437 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: have a linebacker, whether it's a middle linebacker or one 438 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: of the other inside guys or Will or Sam, those 439 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: guys that play to a specific level and play a 440 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: specific way, they can raise those guys around them. Um, 441 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: more so I think than any other position on defense. 442 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: I thought Mike Tomlin had an interesting, uh conversation with 443 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Chase Young after the game. I think he basically says, 444 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: my teams aren't bad enough to get a guy as 445 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: good as you in the draft. I'm paraphrasing here, but 446 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: it feels like that that's what he was saying with 447 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Chase Young. That's that pretty good compliment there, it is. 448 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: It's a very good compliment. And and you know, Chase 449 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: is one of those guys because you know, not only 450 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: is he going to be, in my opinion'll be a 451 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: very good football player in this league and have a 452 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: chance to have a Hall of Fame career. He has. 453 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: He plays at an energy level, um and excitement that 454 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: that I think really again gets his teammates fired up. 455 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: And and and that's one of the things I think 456 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: it's really neat about him is he doesn't know any different. 457 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: That's just the way he is. So his it's his 458 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: whole approach to the game. He loves the game. You 459 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: should have seen him at pregame warm up, um, you know, 460 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: because we were talking about some of the guys on 461 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: the other team and he said, oh my god, I 462 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: gotta go over said I gotta shake Ben's hand. I said, 463 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: really goes, Oh, man, are you kidding? I grew up 464 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: watching them play. It was I mean, he was so 465 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: fired up. And and then when Ben got close, he 466 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: ran over there and introduced himself, shook Ben's hand and 467 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: he he said, man, I just I had to do that. Coach, 468 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: I said, all right, Now that's when you say, introduce 469 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: yourself after you've sacked him. Okay, but you know what 470 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: that's I left that to one of the other coaches 471 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, the philosophy going into this the Steelers, 472 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: they don't have a great running game right now, and 473 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: you knew Ben was gonna throw a lot. But what 474 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: was what was the offensive philosophy against the Steelers? Wells 475 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: was to make sure we we could shut the run 476 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: down to to get it to a point where where 477 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: they were one dimensional. And I get it, they weren't 478 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: missing their best run. They were missing their best runner. 479 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: Uh and and and and some of their offensive alignment. 480 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: But you know, we still felt that if we could 481 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: stop the run and get them to be where they 482 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: were one dimensional, we really felt we had a really 483 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: good opportunity. When did you know you were going to 484 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: win that game? Um? Wow? Uh I would I would 485 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: say probably the middle of the fourth quarter. Um, you know, 486 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: we took the lead, felt really comfortable about it, got 487 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to extend the lead. Um, But I'd say 488 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: middle of the fourth quarter. It's just the energy, the vibe, 489 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: everything was going in the right direction. What was it 490 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: like in the locker room after the win. It was cool. 491 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it was it's it's it's one 492 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: of those things that you remember. It's one of these 493 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: things that you truly appreciate, and you don't get it 494 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: unless you've been in the locker room. And I'm telling 495 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: you it was pandemonium that the guys were excellent. I mean, 496 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for those guys because you know, a 497 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: lot of them have gone through a lot for the 498 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: last few years. A lot of them went through a lot, 499 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, this this offseason, having to to take all 500 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: the body blows that this team took, you know, from 501 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: from everything from the the U, the social issues, to 502 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: the naming to to to to those those articles that 503 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: came out. Um, there was just a lot. And and 504 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: this really think was if you could feel the energy 505 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: that they were releasing, you would almost say, God, they're 506 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: just letting a lot of steam off right now. What 507 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: did you think when you saw Alex Smith's bloody ankle? 508 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I thought, oh goodness, and then I realized it was 509 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: his it was his, it was his, it was his 510 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: left leg, not his right, And then thought, okay, he's 511 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: he's got he got cleaned. I mean, because I believe me. 512 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I I can remember bleeding through my socks, you know, 513 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: and and knowing that, you know, hey, I'd gotten cleted. 514 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: So that's when I said, okay, well just for a 515 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: brief second, and then I realized it was his left leg. 516 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing because I started taking inventory 517 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: and I go, oh my god, what what leg? What leg? 518 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: What leg? And then I realized and then I was like, 519 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he got cleaned, which hurts, but you know 520 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: what he's been through. We're going, oh, yeah, he just 521 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: got cleaned and he's bleeding. There not a big deal. 522 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: When you when you start to assess the quarterbacking situation 523 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: though in the future, you know, as a head coach, 524 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: as a team given Alex his age, M Kyle Allen, 525 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. When that, that's definitely something that we're talking 526 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: about right now because again, you know, you hate to 527 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: be in the quarterback business because because that means you're 528 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: you're you're trying to find one. And right now, we're 529 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: feeling really good about what we're getting from Alex, the 530 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: leadership we've gotten from him, um and also what he's 531 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: doing and helping to develop the rest of the team. 532 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we got a group of young wide receivers 533 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: that that really seemed to be taking the next step. 534 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: We have a tight end and Logan Thomas that's really 535 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: starting to come into his own. We've got some young 536 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: running backs that are getting opportunities that he's helping to develop. 537 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: And we got an offensive line that we've kind of 538 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: put together. And those guys seem to play accordingly. Because 539 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: of what he's done and because we control the ball better, 540 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: the defense isn't on the field as long, you know 541 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, so it's helped the defense 542 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: as well. So it's you know, we're we'll have a 543 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of conversations going into the off season. I mean, 544 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: it's something we really have to discuss. And then we 545 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: got to see how Alex is feeling wants the season 546 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: is over as well. You'll appreciate this. My Heisman Trophy 547 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: pick a few years ago was your tight end? Oh really? Yes? 548 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: When he was in Virginia Tech, I thought they were 549 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: going to run the table. I loved Logan Thomas. I said, Remember, 550 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: I thought, man, he's gonna be like that. Now is 551 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: he an emergency quarterback at all? Like? Is he is 552 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: he fourth string? Yes, he's he's he's the emergency guy 553 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: on the field for US. Um you know what, We're 554 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: going to games with two, so he's actually third string 555 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: and um man, we had a little taste of it 556 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: again and Dallas on Thanksgiving Day when he ran the 557 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: tight end reverse pass and hit Terry McLaurin downfield. Oh yeah, 558 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: I know. My guys still don't let they don't let 559 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: me forget the Oh yeah, Logan Thomas, Yeah, Heisman. The 560 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: fact that he's playing in the NFL. I deserve a 561 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: little credit for that, I thought, Yeah, just a little. 562 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: Let me. I'll tell you right now, you talk about 563 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: a smart football player, I mean he gets it, he 564 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: understands it, and because of it, I think it's helped 565 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: him at the position of tight end right now? Can 566 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: you out bench any of your starters on defense? Not anymore? Okay, 567 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just curious about at your peak though. Oh I'd 568 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: have had a chance. I would have had a chance. 569 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: What about on offense? You can you can out bench 570 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Alex Smith? Right um? I'll tell you what now, he's 571 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: a warrior inside the weight room. Are you kidding? Oh 572 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: my god? Wait, what's a warrior in the weight room? Mean? 573 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: A guy that just slings it. He's around just fighting 574 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the way I mean he is. He's impressive. I mean, 575 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, we've got some guys that are that 576 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: that really are are our ward daddies when they get 577 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: into the white room. Isn't it that's an impressive thing 578 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: to watch. Isn't it great? We're not talking about your health. Yes, 579 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 1: it is, Thank goodness, and I really do mean that. 580 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very fortunate. Thank you. Yeah, Well, the 581 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: holidays should be a whole lot better. Uh, tied for 582 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: first in the NFC East. You got the Niners coming up. 583 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: More importantly, you look great, sound great, and uh, we 584 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: appreciate your time as always, coach. Thanks, Dan, appreciate you. 585 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: That's Ron rivera head coach of the Washington football team. 586 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll get some phone calls here coming up. 587 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I think Pat Forty heard me ranting about some of 588 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: the things in his column with Sports Illustrated, and he's 589 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: going to join his Top of the Hour. Look, I'm 590 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: passionate about it because I love it. I love college football, 591 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: I love college bounsketball, and uh, you know, I grew 592 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: up in a household where we loved college athletics more 593 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: than we did the pros. I mean, I watched, but 594 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I loved college football and college basketball, and I just 595 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be fair. And I know life's not fair, 596 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean I can't fight for something to 597 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: be fair. I fought for a long time against Bill 598 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: Hancock and the BCS, and I kept saying, you're on 599 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: the wrong side. You're just gonna have two teams. And 600 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, all these coaches, all these presidents, 601 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: athletic directors like, yeah, how about four. Hey, that's double 602 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the money. And then they're gonna go, hey, let's double 603 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: it again, double triple the money. That's how it happens. 604 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: But I wanted it to be where you had some 605 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of playoff. I mean, that's what we live for, 606 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: that's what we love. It's harder to do in football. 607 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: And I can't tell you the number of conversations I 608 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: had with either Bull officials or an athletic director or 609 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: a former coach saying, you don't get it. They won't 610 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: get rid of the Bull system. They love the pageantry. 611 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: And I said, don't ever say that word again. They 612 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: love the pageantry of the bowl games. I said, I 613 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: do too. But why can't I make the Rose Bowl, Festibol, 614 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl, whatever bowl game you want to put in there, 615 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: rotate it. You get to host a national title game? Well, lo, 616 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: and behold, look at what they've done. And are we 617 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: going to go to eight? Eventually? Yes, we'll go to eight. 618 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I believe when we go to the Power five conferences 619 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to have sixty teams maybe, And that's 620 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: when they're going to do it. Because right now Cincinnati 621 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. I still go back to Louisiana. Louisiana beat 622 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Iowa State at Iowa State and what did they win? By? 623 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns? Something like that? They're behind them in the rankings. 624 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: All right, take a break. Play of the day coming 625 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: up next to your phone calls as well here on 626 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 627 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 628 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific, 629 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 630 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 631 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Oh My God, the Place of the Day, 632 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: God play this is the play of the day. Check 633 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: this out with almost nine seconds runner had point eight 634 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: ago sixty nine sixty seven Florida State. The freshman freshman 635 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes takes at the length of the court given 636 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: the seminoles. The win in overtime games since twenty seventeen 637 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: Florida State is ten and oh. It's courtesy of ESPN. 638 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: Barns the fifth rank recruit in the class of twenty twenty, 639 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: according to es Beyond. By the way built bars, You're 640 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna love them protein bars. They don't taste that way. 641 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: They are great. They're eighteen amazing flavors like mint, brownie, coconut, almond, 642 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: some of our favorites here. Go to builbar dot com. 643 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Enter the promo CODP for twenty percent off your purchase. 644 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the Fun Belt Championship, the Sun 645 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: Belt Championship. It's the Fun Belt because I got Louisiana 646 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: and Coastal Carolina in a rematch here. Coast of Carolina 647 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: won earlier this year by three. But I'm looking forward 648 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: to I love those kind of games. I love those 649 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: games that maybe are a little bit off the radar. 650 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: And you saw how many people watch BYU and Coastal Carolina. 651 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: That's one of the more highly viewed games in ESPN history, 652 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: and there was great reason because it was a great 653 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: game and you had undefeated teams and they put it 654 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: all on the line with a chance to move up 655 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: in the rankings, not that Coastal Carolina did. Taysom Hills 656 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: expected to start his fourth consecutive game for the Saints 657 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Jeff Duncan is tweeting this this against Philadelphia. 658 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm told his three game performance as the starter has 659 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: only bolstered the confidence internally that he is the eventual 660 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: air apparent to do Brees's job. Good for him. I 661 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: have my doubts, and I shouldn't doubt Sean Payton when 662 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 1: it comes to offensive topics players, but Taysom Hill gets 663 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: the call. Hopefully. You know that'll be an entertaining game. 664 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts Taysom Hill. If I said at the beginning 665 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: of the year, Hey, by the way, you're gonna love 666 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: this quarterbacking matchup Jalen Hurts Taysom Hill Saints Eagles late 667 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: in the season, Yeah, Paul, I think a lot of 668 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: people think Drew Brees is retiring at the end of 669 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: the season because he's got this great NBC gig waiting 670 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: for them. Nothing's been said about that. Is it assumed 671 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: he's retiring or assumed he's coming back. I think it's 672 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: assumed that he's retiring. Do you think it's possible he reconsiders, 673 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: because there's always TV jobs out for a guy like this, 674 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: But he's got a good team. This season isn't how 675 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: he wants to go out. Also, a weird season with 676 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: no fans and stands lee. I think he's gonna pull 677 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: a Laric Fitzgerald stay. But what happens, Well, it's different, 678 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: I think with Larry, because you know, I don't need 679 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: to count on Larry for every offensive play. With Drew Brees, 680 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: I have to count on him. Plus, here's the conundrum. 681 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: As we like to say, you don't want to go 682 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: out on a losing note or a bad team, But 683 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: then it's hard to walk away when you're winning, when 684 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: you have a good team, and Drew Brees is you know, 685 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: in the latter category here. But if I'm the Saints, 686 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: I would start to Yeah, I would get that retirement party. 687 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: At least I get some of the invitations ready for Drew, 688 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, let him see them. Maybe they'd be on 689 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: coaches to ask or something. Oh, yeah, it's for you, 690 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: like when you retire and then you go to NBC 691 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: and then we start Taysom Hill here. I truly thought 692 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: that Jamis Winston was going to be there their quarterback 693 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: for next year because I thought, given what Sean wants 694 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: to do, and you're gonna be able to throw the ball. 695 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: Now you're more dangerous in throwing the ball down the field. 696 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: And you let him have this tutorial. You know, I 697 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: talk about master class that you can take classes that 698 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: would be a master class. You get to learn the 699 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacking position from Sean Payton and Drew Brees, and then 700 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: you would learn to take make smart decisions, take less 701 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: chances there. But if Taysom Hill's your guy, and you're 702 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: gonna sort of have that hybrid where he's not a 703 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: great passer, but he can pass and he's gonna I mean, 704 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: it's like Lamar Jackson. That's really what Sean Payton I 705 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: think is bought into. Yeah, PAULI, I'm prepared to go 706 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: pie in the face that Drew Brees plays in the 707 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: NFL next season in pie with the Saints in the NFL. Okay, 708 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: I want to cover my beat just a little bit 709 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: smoothed out of him. Wants a piece of this. Well, 710 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to know how the Saints are going to 711 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: and the Saint's going to be successful, because does Drew 712 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Brees get a chance to go to a Super Bowl? 713 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: Are you team tas him? No, I'm not team Tasom. 714 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: I have already said his team James. Yes, McLevin. They 715 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: have an unbeatable formula. They start Drew Brees in the 716 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, he gets hurt. They went go 717 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: five and zero. His numbers are pretty fire this year. 718 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's I don't know if he really has 719 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: to walk away because his numbers are great. Drew Brees 720 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: ever throw downfield? Yeah, Breezes and could you have play 721 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: both like you did last year? If you're Sean Baden 722 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: next year, I mean yeah, I mean that's that's delicate. 723 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: That's a delicate balance where you want to give a 724 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: Quarterbacking is about rhythm. It's it's about getting the you know, 725 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: you bring in Jalen Hurts for one play and you're like, okay, whatever, 726 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: that didn't solve anything. You want to get into a rhythm. 727 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: There By the way, it didn't take long for somebody 728 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: to turn on Ben Roethlisberger. I do have the exact 729 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: quote on that that he's holding the Steelers back. I 730 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: saw the headline yesterday. I didn't read the article because 731 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, did somebody plant this from the Steelers? 732 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: Because I guess Ben is changing plays, not running plays, 733 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: and they're throwing the ball far more than they should be. 734 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know who's Like Antonio Brown can't be 735 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: blamed for this, But all of a sudden, Ben Roethlisberger 736 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: is holding back the Steelers. He was an MVP candidate 737 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: a week ago, wasn't he seven days ago? Do you 738 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: see that article mclovin where it was Ben is holding 739 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: the Steelers back. That seems insane to me. I mean, 740 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: unless he's the reason the Steelers are dropping every pass? 741 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: Is that is there something going on there because he's 742 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: putting it in there between their two numbers and they're 743 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: dropping it every single play. Yeah, but this feels like 744 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: somebody leaked this out so Ben would go, you know, hey, 745 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: I'll start calling the plays that are set in here. 746 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: But I don't, I don't know. I just yeah, McCloy 747 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Lions fans go nuts on Twitter like you signed Eric 748 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: Ebron that's what you're gonna get. You're gonna get big 749 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: drops all over the field. So I mean, like I 750 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: do get it, like big Ben is is polarizing, but 751 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: there's something wrong, you know with Fonte Johnson and Juju. 752 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: These guys are just I don't know. You watch it? 753 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: Did you google just the phrase Ben Roethlisberger is holding 754 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: back the Steelers. Yeah. I saw a big lead column though, 755 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen and I didn't I didn't know 756 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: if there was a quote attached to that, but I 757 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised. But what's the poll question we're 758 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna go with? We I think we breezed through the 759 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: first hour here, Paully, can you give the options here? 760 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: The two options for college football? Okay, you can only 761 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: choose one. Expand to an eight team playoff or go 762 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: to a five conference big conference set up for college 763 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: football where it was basically sixty teams and the other 764 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: sixty teams basically go down to fcs. You only pick 765 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: one of the two. An eight team conference gives teams 766 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: like Coastal Carolina a chance only if you say that 767 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: the Power five conferences are going to get a berth 768 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: and then you're going to be fair to the other 769 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: their schools, Like if you say you're no, I can't 770 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: trust him to do that. I can't. No, I can't. 771 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: I can't trust him. Pat Forty got a great column 772 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: on the college football rankings. Also, Tony Dungee will join 773 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: his coming up next hour here on The Dan Patrick Show.