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Speaker 1: guilty in a court of law. This podcast contains subject

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Speaker 1: matter such as violence and graphic descriptions, which may not

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Speaker 1: be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Through

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Speaker 1: all the twists and turns in the three years since

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Speaker 1: losing Jessica, the one thing her family has always managed

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Speaker 1: to cling.

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Speaker 2: To is hope.

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Speaker 1: For Audrey, all she needs is a small token from

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Speaker 1: Mother Nature to remind her she's not alone in all

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Speaker 1: of this. Dragonflies are often revered as a symbol of

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Speaker 1: transformation and rebirth. In some cultures, they're even believed to

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Speaker 1: symbolize a link between this world and the next. Audrey

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Speaker 1: tells me that the day she found her sister's body.

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Speaker 1: She remembers seeing a dragonfly right there in that overgrown

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Speaker 3: If I'm standing right here, my sister was right there

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Speaker 3: where that blue cover was.

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Speaker 1: That's how close I was to her.

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Speaker 3: And I've just seen the most beautifulest blue dragonfly. I've

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Speaker 3: never seen a ballooon like that before.

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Speaker 1: Ever. Audrey didn't make much of it at the time.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until one night after returning home to Mississippi

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Speaker 1: that it sank in. As she sat on her porch

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Speaker 1: It was another dragonfly, and it didn't just pop in

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Speaker 1: was as if that little blue insect was trying to

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Speaker 1: communicate with her. Audrey felt it had to mean something,

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Speaker 1: and looking back on it now, she's even more convinced

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Speaker 3: One time I woke up and I was crying and

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Speaker 3: there was literally twenty or thirty dragonflies in my ard.

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Speaker 3: They were nowhere else, they were just in my art.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's just me holding on

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Speaker 1: For Audrey, the dragonflies are a reminder that her sister,

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Speaker 1: Jessica is always with her, she always has been. That

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Speaker 1: gives her hope and strength to keep fighting. Momentum had

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Speaker 1: now shifted in the family's favor. Jessica was finally laid

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Speaker 1: Things were looking up.

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Speaker 4: Now it was.

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Speaker 1: Time to try and put Jessica's case to rest once

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Speaker 1: and for all. We don't know how long he saw

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Speaker 1: her before twelve thirty. They talked about bills, They talked

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Speaker 1: about this, They talked about that. Our time in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans has been quite the roller coaster. Days of phone calls, interviews,

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Speaker 1: and debriefs. We've learned a lot about Jessica's case its

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Speaker 1: feel we've discovered most everything we can. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: Sitting inside our fringe Quarter hotel room, Todd and I

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Speaker 1: January twenty nineteen, when that first message was sent to

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Speaker 1: every notable event, along with the corresponding date and time. Visually,

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Speaker 5: Come hiding in the bathroom right now, So Justin doesn't

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Speaker 1: And Lo is the nickname she uses for Maria. Right,

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Speaker 1: So then fast forward to August twelfth, twenty nineteen. This

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Speaker 1: message from Jessica's Facebook messenger is sent to Maria. We

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Speaker 1: And the last thing that Jessica says in those Facebook messengers.

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Speaker 1: And that is the last time that Maria ever heard

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Speaker 2: Is jess with you, Grace and I are worried. If so,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, We just don't know where she is and

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Speaker 5: When was the last time you spoke to her?

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Speaker 2: About noon today? And she left everything here? Keys, car, money,

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Speaker 2: what about her phone here too? Fucking weird, worried She's

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Speaker 2: never done this. I have no idea, checked everything and

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I'm sending the police over there.

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Speaker 1: Maria does in fact call in a wellness check at

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Speaker 1: A T shirt sometime prior to noon that day, before

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and lists.

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Speaker 7: That's where we first find out that all these articles

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Speaker 7: a person would normally leave the house with were left behind.

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Speaker 7: Her ID, her phone, all her medications, her wallet, and

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Speaker 7: the car and car keys all there right.

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Speaker 1: He was showing with his hands, you know the pizza

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Speaker 1: He shows them the Facebook messenger messages that he and

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Speaker 8: You've reached Curtis Almo, the third Communications director of the

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Speaker 7: Hi, Lieutenant Lester, this is Todd mccombus. Call on you back, Yes, yes, Hey, thanks.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, send it to me, because what I'll do is

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Speaker 4: Lieutenant you're a good man. I appreciate you for your time.

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Speaker 8: Was that about a neighbor receiving texts?

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Speaker 8: mean it's an ongoing investigate.

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Speaker 10: So okay, all right, so Babby, you can't say that

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Speaker 10: number that the neighbor tested, that that was given on

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Speaker 10: the Justin Durty mean profile and then next door app

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Speaker 10: that number was not in the possession of Justin Darning

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Speaker 10: on that day.

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Speaker 8: I mean I can just say we did a follow

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Speaker 8: up on it, and I mean the case is still

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Speaker 8: open and we're still investigating.

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Speaker 10: So okay, do you guys have it now or does the.

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Speaker 6: DIA's office have I Can I ask you that.

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Speaker 8: Right now? We both have it.

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Speaker 6: I guess oh, you're just both kind of sharing duties

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Speaker 6: on it. Yeah, okay, well he's better than one, I

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Speaker 6: reckon that's the case. Okay, Well, I appreciate your time,

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Speaker 6: appreciate you calling me back. Are you still with missing

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Speaker 6: persons or are you in homicide now?

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not. I just deal with the person crimes.

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Speaker 10: Okay, And so does this Can I ask you if

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Speaker 10: this sets within missing persons now or yehu?

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Speaker 8: Or I mean it's still it's still listen as an

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Speaker 8: unclassified death right, that's how it's being enough to me?

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Speaker 10: Can I ask you what unit that means that it's

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Speaker 10: left with?

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Speaker 8: I mean it's still with me and I guess DA's

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Speaker 8: office now, Okay, But if you get anything else, Just

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Speaker 8: give me a call and look into it, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, We'll take appreciate your call.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, Todd was caught off guard by LUN's

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Speaker 1: call as well as what we learned from it. That's

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Speaker 1: because Lieutenant Luster told us the n OPD was no

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Speaker 1: longer officially investigating Jessica's case and had handed it over

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Speaker 1: to the DA. But now Detective Lun tells us that

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Speaker 1: both the n OPD and the DA's office are actively

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Speaker 1: working it, and that the NOPD did follow through and

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Speaker 1: look into the phone records, and we're able to confirm

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Speaker 1: that Justin was not the user of that phone number

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Speaker 1: at the time when those texts were sent. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, this call from one provided some

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Speaker 1: major updates in Jessica's case. The LUN's response is helpful

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Speaker 1: in trying to understand the origin of the messages. The

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Speaker 1: vague nature of it does leave a lot unanswered on

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Speaker 1: the technical side. Saying we looked into that does not

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Speaker 1: answer other important questions such as what type of records

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Speaker 1: they obtained, who analyzed them, and what type of analysis

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Speaker 1: was conducted. In other words, it doesn't tell us how

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Speaker 1: they reached their conclusion. And furthermore, who sent those text messages.

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Speaker 1: In discussing this with Todd and piggybacking off of his

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Speaker 1: original recommendation to the DA and Lieutenant Lester, we made

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Speaker 1: several attempts to follow up with Detective lun over the phone,

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Speaker 1: but we have yet to receive a call back. With that,

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Speaker 1: we shifted our focus back to the other agency we've

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Speaker 1: been told is working Jessica's case, the DA's office. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they can shed some more light on everything if they

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Speaker 1: are working the case. One of my questions to them

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Speaker 1: would be if they did their own analysis of those

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Speaker 1: phone records, as Todd recommended, among other things. The problem

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Speaker 1: is we don't know who at the DA's office is

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Speaker 1: working this case. That's something we've been trying to determine

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Speaker 1: for over a year now. Todd asked Detective Lawn via

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Speaker 1: text if he knew who the investigator was at the

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Speaker 1: DA's office, but he never received a reply, so we're

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Speaker 1: left to try and figure this out ourselves. We start

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Speaker 1: by visiting the DA's website. We see that he is

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Speaker 1: a page dedicated to the cold case unit supposedly overseeing

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Speaker 1: Jessica's case, with a phone number and the following promise.

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Speaker 1: The Cold Case Unit of the Orleans Parish District Attorney's

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Speaker 1: Office is charged with getting murderers off the streets and

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Speaker 1: bringing healing to families. So we call that number.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, I'm going to help you.

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Speaker 1: Hi, May I speak to the District Attorney's Cold Case Unit.

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Speaker 8: Okay, what do you call in regards to them?

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Speaker 1: I'm calling about the Jessica Easterly Darning case.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so they have your information.

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Speaker 11: I remember speaking with you.

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify, I had called the DA before. This

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Speaker 1: was just the first time i'd called the front desk

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Speaker 1: asking specifically for the cold case unit.

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Speaker 6: Is it justice for Jessica?

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Speaker 10: Do you know that website?

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Speaker 1: I do know that website, but that is not I'm

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Speaker 1: the Audrey. She seems to think I'm Jessica's sister. Audrey.

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Speaker 1: I try to clarify, Well, I'm not fafiliated with that website.

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Speaker 2: I just know of it.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Well, what's your relation to Jessica.

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Speaker 1: I am an investigative journalist. I'm working on a podcast

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Speaker 1: about her case, and I attended the press conference and

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Speaker 1: spoke to the District Attorney Jason Williams last year about

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Speaker 1: the cold Case Unit and her case, and I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to do a follow up to see where thinks.

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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, so you're not a family member, no, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me give.

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Speaker 11: You kindreds email address and you can email Jason's assistant

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Speaker 11: and they take it from here.

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Speaker 1: So, without any further information about the cold Case Unit

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Speaker 1: or Jessica's case, we take the woman's recommendation and reach

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Speaker 1: out via email to Kendrick, the DA's executive assistant. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's unable to set up a meeting for us with

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Speaker 1: the DA, stating that Jason Williams is in the middle

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Speaker 1: of prosecuting two murder trials. He does offer us two

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Speaker 1: investigators within the cold case Unit to call.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, Naomi Jones.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Hi Naomi, this is Todd McComas and I'm calling

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Speaker 7: you about a specific case you may or may not

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Speaker 7: be assigned to. And that's the Jessica Easterly Darning case.

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Speaker 7: The what Jessica Easterly Darning case?

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Speaker 11: I am not assigned to that?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 7: Are you currently assigned to the Cold Case Unit at

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Speaker 7: the DA's office.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm in the Sexual Assault Kit Initiative Unit, okay,

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Speaker 1: which just cold cases.

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Speaker 7: Okay, but you are not assigned or working in any

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Speaker 7: way on Jessica Easterly Darning's death investigation.

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Speaker 8: No, no, I am not.

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Speaker 4: Would you by chance know who is?

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Speaker 8: I do not.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're just not familiar with the case at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it in the news, but other

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Speaker 1: than that, No, no luck with the first detective. So

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Speaker 1: we try the other detective, he recommended.

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Speaker 4: Hi, can I speak with Mary Glass please?

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Speaker 8: Gees actually not in yet, can't take a message.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it'll be full.

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Speaker 7: My name is Todd Macomas, and I had some questions

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Speaker 7: about your unit. Do you work within the same unit

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Speaker 7: I do? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Is this I believe the DNA unit.

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Speaker 8: No, we worked specifically on cold case sexual assaults.

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Speaker 7: Okay, do you have a cold case homicide unit there

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Speaker 7: within the DA's office.

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Speaker 11: I work in my little corner and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But let me give you so Kendrick's contacts for the

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Speaker 1: cold case unit weren't exactly helpful. But then we remember

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Speaker 1: that we do know of one other detective within the

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Speaker 1: DA's office, the one who was initially assigned Jessica's case

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Speaker 1: and who I met briefly at the DA's press conference

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Speaker 1: Detective Joe Lorenzo. Looking him up online, it appears as

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Speaker 1: though he may have left his position at the DA's

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Speaker 1: office and moved into real estate. Nonetheless, we're hopeful he

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Speaker 1: can provide some information as to where the case stood

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Speaker 1: when he left.

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Speaker 11: Hello.

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Speaker 4: Hi is this Joe? Yes, Hey Joe. My name is

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Speaker 4: Todd Macombus.

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Speaker 7: I'm a retired detective with the Indiana State Police and

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Speaker 7: currently I work with Resonate Recordings that's doing the Jessica

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Speaker 7: Easterly Dirning case.

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Speaker 8: I don't have anything to say, brother, thank you?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Are you retired?

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Speaker 1: So no help from the former investigator either. In a

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Speaker 1: moment of pure frustration, Todd tries the cold case phone

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Speaker 1: number listed on the District Attorney's website one more time,

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Speaker 1: and this time we seem to be getting somewhere. The

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Speaker 1: woman at the desk gives us contact information for the

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Speaker 1: DA's first assistant, Ned McGowan. We promptly make a call.

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Speaker 11: Ned McGowan is not available at the moment. At the

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Speaker 11: tone record your message. To end your recording, press number

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Speaker 11: sign to reat operator PRIs zero. Hi.

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Speaker 5: Ed.

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Speaker 7: My name is Todd Mcomas. I am currently working with

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Speaker 7: Resonate Recordings that is doing the podcast on the Jessica

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Speaker 7: Easterly Darning case. For months now, I've been trying to

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Speaker 7: just get a simple answer from someone at the DA's

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Speaker 7: office to answer the question, does the DA's office have

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Speaker 7: a cold case homicide unit? Is your office actually investigating

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Speaker 7: cold case homicides? Are members of your cold case homicide

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Speaker 7: unit actively working in the Jessica Easterly Durning case.

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Speaker 4: It a'll need specifics.

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Speaker 1: As of this episode's release, we have not been able

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Speaker 1: to confirm who at the DA's office is investigating Jessica's case,

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Speaker 1: or if there is even a detective assigned to investigating

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Speaker 1: homicides in their cold case unit. I also want to

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Speaker 1: point out that the family has not heard from anyone

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Speaker 1: in the DA's office since the press conference a year

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Speaker 1: and a half ago, despite numerous calls and in person

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Speaker 1: visits from Audrey. I find myself in familiar territory yet again,

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Speaker 1: with many questions and very few answers, the same place

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Speaker 1: that Jessica's family has become all too familiar with over

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Speaker 1: the years. As you know, DA Williams called that press

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Speaker 1: conference to address the thousands of unsolved homicides in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and announced his intentions of establishing a dedicated cold

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Speaker 1: case unit, with Jessica as a proverbial poster child for

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Speaker 1: that endeavor. He also publicly announced for the first time

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Speaker 1: that her death would be investigated as a homicide, but

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Speaker 1: for now, the status of the investigation remains unknown. Despite

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Speaker 1: any recommendations we've given to the DA directly for Todd

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Speaker 1: and I, finding out who, if anyone, is investigating Jessica's

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Speaker 1: death has felt more challenging than discovering what happened to

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Speaker 1: her in the first place, And simply put, that's not okay.

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Speaker 1: Jessica's not just a case number. She's not just a

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Speaker 1: poster child for cold case unit initiatives. She was a

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Speaker 1: human being and she was loved. Jessica, like so many

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Speaker 1: of us, was a woman who was finding her way.

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Speaker 1: She wanted a family and a happily ever after, and

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Speaker 1: with so much of her life hidden away, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to say exactly what was happening behind the curtain. Jessica's

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Speaker 1: family entrusted Todd and I to tell her story with respect, empathy,

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Speaker 1: and compassion. Our goal was to do just that and

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Speaker 1: hopefully bring more awareness to her case, uncover truth about

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Speaker 1: her suspicious death and shed light on her investigation. But

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Speaker 1: along the way, we uncovered a systemic issue in the

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Speaker 1: city of New Orleans. Jessica's case is just one of

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Speaker 1: countless others that have gone unsolved by a system whose

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Speaker 1: main players don't seem to be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: On one hand, we have a coroner who has ruled

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Speaker 1: both her cause and manner of death as undetermined and

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Speaker 1: told us that their work is done until the INNOPDE

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Speaker 1: gives them more evidence to rule her manner of death

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Speaker 1: as anything else. On the other hand, we have the

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Speaker 1: person who supervises NOPD detectives tell us that they're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to investigate an undetermined death. And in addition to

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Speaker 1: all of this, we now have a detective telling us

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Speaker 1: that despite that classification, he is still actively working her

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Speaker 1: case until someone in authority reevaluates this process and takes

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Speaker 1: some sort of action. Questions surrounding Jessica's suspicious death remain

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Speaker 1: unanswered and her case remains undetermined. So where do we

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Speaker 1: go from here? Well, even if there is someone assigned

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Speaker 1: to investigate Jessica's case, as detective Law told us, why

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Speaker 1: not seek additional resources? We know there are other agencies who,

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Speaker 1: if invited in, could assist in the investigation. One such

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Speaker 1: agency is the Louisiana State Police's Bureau of Investigations, but

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Speaker 1: they can only join existing investigations upon request by local

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, an invitation if you will. And the person

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, who appoints the superintendent. So with that said,

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Speaker 1: here's what can be done. Mayor LaToya Cantrell can encourage

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Speaker 1: NPD's superintendent, Michelle Woodfork, to extend an invitation to the

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Speaker 1: Louisiana State Police to help investigate Jessica's case. We worked

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Speaker 1: with Jessica's sister Audrey to create a new petition on

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Speaker 1: change dot org asking the Mayor of New Orleans to

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Speaker 1: do just that. You can sign the petition at change

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Speaker 1: dot org slash justice the number four jess Or on

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Speaker 1: our website undeterminedpod dot com. I encourage you to read

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Speaker 1: the petition and consider signing it in hopes that Jessica's

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Speaker 1: case can get the help it needs so her family

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Speaker 1: can get a step closer to answers. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: all who participate, Thank you for listening. Undetermined is a

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Speaker 1: production of Resonate Recordings and Tenderfoot TV in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: Cadence thirteen, Written and hosted by me Jessica Nole and

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Speaker 1: produced by Dennis Cooper and Todd McComas, with additional production

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Speaker 1: by Whitney Bozart. Executive producers are Dennis Cooper, Mark Minnery,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Bozart, Donald Albright, and Payne Lindsay. Our senior producer

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Speaker 1: is John Street. Editing, mixing, mastering and sound design by

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Speaker 1: Caleb Melcher, Dayton Cole and Pat Kicklider of the Resonate

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Speaker 1: Recordings team. If you have a podcast or are looking

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Speaker 1: to start one, check us out at Resonate Recordings dot com.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song and original score is by Dirt Poor Robbins,

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Speaker 1: with additional scoring by Dayton Cole. Voice acting by Sabrina Sewert,

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Speaker 1: Whitney Bozart and Paul Frields. You can follow Undetermined Podcast

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Speaker 1: on Facebook and on Twitter at Undetermined Pod. Show notes

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Speaker 1: as well as bonus content can be found on our website,

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Speaker 1: undetermined pod dot com. If you enjoyed this episode, please

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Speaker 1: take time to subscribe, rate and review your feedback. Is

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Speaker 1: greatly appreciated and finally, if you have any information about

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Speaker 1: this case, call crime Stoppers at one eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: nine zero three seven eight sixty seven. The tone and

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Speaker 1: is a matter of creative interpretation