WEBVTT - Power Costs More Than Money 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.880 What's going on to Mika matter. 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.480 Going on Listen Man, Episode two. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.560 Episode two, Season five, now Here, We love y'all. It's 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.360 gonna be bigger and better every year. We're going. Shout 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.800 out to the Black Effect Podcast Network, Shout out to iHeart, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.240 shout out to everybody who loves us. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.680 Oh God Lord, so sometimes you could be so sentimental. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.040 You got it is shout out we got listen and 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.280 shout out to the team. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:28.280 Shout out to the team. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.800 I think that because of the fact that we're on 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.200 the air. Excuse me, I think that, because of us 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.360 being in public when you're speaking, that you should call 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:42.480 her by her correct name. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.000 Her name is Janie, I call it. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.559 So what you should say that behind the. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.760 Scenes, Well, her name Janie, I call it Janie. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.080 So when I said thank you to the team, also, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.600 janis like you said, But it's a bunch of folks 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.640 that work on this show, Armando, we have to give 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.639 him some season. Season five is going to be good 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.960 because everybody seems to be focused. Tisha, Toya, Trina's a 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.880 bunch of people behind the scenes that's working on the 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.679 TMI show. So I was going to talk about in 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.440 my team and my thought of the day, which we're 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.920 gonna skip for today, I was going to talk about 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.119 the kids in co Op City who now have been 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.360 banned from entering the mall. You have to be eighteen 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.720 years old to go into the mall because they have 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.800 been running through doing a flash run. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.160 They are not harming anybody. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.960 I haven't seen reports that they stole anything, but they 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.240 have been running through the mall, lots of them, and 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.960 then just go. And so what I was gonna say is, yes, absolutely, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.720 parents need to know where their kids are and kids 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:38.880 need to be more responsible. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.119 These are not babies. They know what they're doing is wrong. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.760 But I was really going to get more into the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:50.480 issue around one that co Op City has a responsibility 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.400 to help these kids have somewhere they can go run, right, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.440 So that's one thing that you know, we could get 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.680 into at a different time. They have a responsibility to 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:04.520 help these kids go to where there's no programs and 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.600 co Op that really truly address the needs of the youth. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.919 So that's why they're in the mall because there's nowhere 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.639 else for them to go. There's no planned activities, there's 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.799 none of that. So that's a problem. But my real 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.720 point was going to be that. It's so unfortunate that 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.360 we can't even say that we want the authorities to 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.960 be in the mall to make sure that they help 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.000 get them in and out, because kids, it could turn 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.480 into hell. Right, you already would have young people that 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.440 will feel fear. You will have parents that will be 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.920 afraid that their kids are in there, and god knows 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.160 what can happen, and you can't trust that the authorities 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.400 are going to go there and deal with the kids 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.440 in a way to be like and I don't think 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.679 that cops should. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.919 Be responsible for being mentors. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.320 But they have a way that they deal with kids 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.000 that white children that they don't deal with them. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.200 It's supposed to be a process. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.919 And I've watched many of these type of situations where 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.079 they slamming kids on their neck and beating them up. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.399 Like it's too aggressive. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.120 So yeah, like you said, there definitely should be you know, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.360 safety measures inside the mall so people are safe. But 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.360 unfortunately we can't even you know, hope that we have 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.200 law enforcement understand you just don't know we got I 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.640 think that's what we need, like community situation, you know, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.760 violence interruptors and those type of organizations should be sent out, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.440 you know, to to to the mall to where they 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.840 see people from their community. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.480 And sometimes it gets a look, we've always done. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.160 That flash running. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.400 No, I don't say flashmen, but we've used to go 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.120 to the mall and just be a bunch of us running. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.120 Sometimes something happened. You might get into argument other kids, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.120 y'all running. It might be a little fight, but they 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.320 break it up. You run off, but they just like 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.280 go because that's a new thing. It is probably just 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.080 to make people scared, and you know, and it's not good. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:01.280 It's stupid kids stupid because you could actually get hurt. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.200 And if one of those kids go fall into the 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.560 ban or something like that, that would be a fall down. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.360 Escalators is just too much. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.000 And those types of things happen, right because it's those 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.080 types of things that you are like, oh, shoot, I 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:16.160 can't believe. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:17.440 That that happened. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.360 What would they do? Oh, they were running through the mall. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.159 So anyway, long story short, that's something you know, we 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.599 have to deal with because what do we do in 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.280 the Bronx and other places. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.880 About our nags. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.760 The TMI today you're doing too much or maybe you're not. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.120 And you know, I don't really have an opinion either 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.359 way about this, because I don't know how I feel 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.120 about what they call it Indian given, you give it 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:46.960 and you take it back. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.400 But it's funny that. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.120 One of the French politicians, I think he's from the 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:58.719 European Parliament, he said that he believes the Statue of 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.479 Liberty should be given and back to France. Now it 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.159 was given to America in eighteen eighty four as a 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.960 birthday gift. So it was like, you know, I think 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.800 independence thing exactly, and so he said that people in 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.279 America have chosen the side of the tyrant, and so 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.120 they're basically talking about the Statue of Liberty is supposed 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.839 to be about liberty and justice and now you have 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.080 an authoritarian government. He didn't say that, I'm saying it 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.760 and that's not liberty at all. What we see happening 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.919 in this nation under Donald Trump's presidency. Not that we 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.800 didn't always have issues, but they are certainly worse at 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.040 this moment, and so he says, give it back. So now, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.520 I just I wanted to know for you, and then, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.400 of course from our audience, do people feel that he's 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.240 doing too much, like we're not taking the Statue of 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.919 liberty down, you don't take it back or do you 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.680 feel like I actually respect to understand his position? 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.719 Well, I know Trump talking about give the Panama Canal 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.880 that he's talking about all of these things. What else 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.680 he said? It was the Panama Canal and something else. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.640 He's like, you know, we need to rename it and 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.000 all of these things. So I guess the brother is 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.039 saying to himself, well, listen, since the situation has changed, like, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.400 we gave this as a gift, and you know that's 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.880 when you was our allies and we felt like we 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.960 was in partnership, and now you're completely changing the dynamics 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.880 of this relationship. So I don't know if it actually 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.960 stands for what it stood for, you should probably give 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:28.279 it back. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.840 The situation has changed. I'm not I'm not mad at him. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.880 I mean, the likelihood of you giving it back is 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.080 not really a thing. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.400 I don't think so. But in Trump's. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:43.440 Administer, you never know, he'll go have it and sit 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.800 back and then he'll have his a statue of him. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.000 For sure, for sure he'll have the Trump statue. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:56.200 Of I don't know, I like you said last week, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.840 a change, It's like the job ebody a billion dolls 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.200 Elan would love. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:08.320 To have with the New York sound or the river. Yeah, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.880 the sound he would love to be. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:10.960 He would love to do it. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.600 So, you know, I don't know if it's too much, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.760 but nothing is off the table. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.040 So maybe it's not to your min but it could be. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.200 I don't know from you at all. Right, let's get 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.400 into our guests. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.120 Well, we've got one of our friends on today, you know, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.200 us with our friends. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.440 We're back season five already. With our friends. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.000 You know they're gonna be like, that's why we don't 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.680 like this show, because y'all only have y'all friends. Why 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.880 y'all don't have people in there, y'all don't get along 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.320 with you don't agree with. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.600 Yeah, because I don't want to talk to nobody that 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.600 I don't like. I don't want to give you no 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.040 light on my show. If I don't like it, that's it. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.920 So I'm bring to people that I reck that I love, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.480 that I think it's smart that have the same moral. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.480 At least you got to have the same more alcomplishes. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.000 If we don't got the same more accomplished, I'm not 0:07:56.040 --> 0:08:00.560 going to expose my good people to your negative energy demons. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.120 But then that means that y'all ain't talking to all 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.360 black folks. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.880 Some black folks can't believe in that stuff. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.200 Well guess what, today we do have our friend and 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.520 I'm very very proud to have our brother on the show. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.800 Actually not our friend, our brother Gary Chambers, who is 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:22.600 a fighting leader in Louisiana but also across the nation. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:28.440 Gary is an educator. Gary is just a leader all around. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:28.760 I mean. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.880 And also I like to say he's probably one of 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:38.880 the more authentic scholars in our current society, just because 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.240 you know, when I say authentic, I mean that because 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.760 sometimes Gary writes some stuff and I'd be like, whoa. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.920 God, my grandmother just saying he don't take no wood Nickels. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.720 He ain't taking no wood Nichols Man. That's why I 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.240 love Gary Man. He gonna tell he shoot from the hip. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.600 You like it or you don't, but you know, is 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:58.760 real and that's what I love. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.000 And that's what it is. Gary. Thank you so much 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.840 for joining us. I think you in the state of 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.040 Louisiana right now. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.160 I am home today. I'm glad to be with my peek. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.240 It's good to be with y'all. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:09.680 Thank you, Thank you, Gary. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.440 We don't want to keep you long because I know 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.600 if you are anything like us, but certainly me, You 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.760 and me, we're on at least twenty five thousand chains 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.280 where we're talking about black liberation with different people and 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:28.240 different efforts. And so, you know, before they start getting 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.160 on us for being for disappearing for a while, let 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.600 me hurry up and get to what we are doing. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.200 And by the way, I'm so excited about joining with 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.599 you and being in partnership with you and co organizing 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.680 with you to put the State of the People Power 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.360 Tour together, which begins in Atlanta, Georgia at the end 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.600 of this month, at the end of April, and folks 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.199 are going to be learning more every day about this 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.120 incredible tour. But what I do love is that there's 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.840 a voltron that's happening among us as black folks that 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.280 come from different experiences and perspectives. But again to your point, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.800 my son, they're all people who at least are leaning on. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:14.400 The same side. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.480 We can't, you know, we just can't do that are 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.160 too dangerous. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:19.720 People told me, you know, I want to hear. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.560 I don't want to hear a perspective that I know 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.000 is going to be detrimental to my life, like and 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.040 what happens is we deal with people so who are 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.920 so misinformed and used to being misinformed that if you 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:36.280 have a misinformed narrative that they can utilize to support. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.160 Their misinformedness, then they grab on to it. They don't 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.000 want to hear the truth. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.000 So if you we bring somebody on our platform and 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.120 that's misinformed, that that says something, they will take that 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.880 level and they'll cut it up and make it seem 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.760 like they said some see that's what I was saying. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.680 You didn't know and they don't know either. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.040 Yah, but people do know. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.240 But so Gary, thank you again for just your leadership 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.640 and everything else. And I'm looking forward to seeing you 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:01.160 on the road. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.520 Absolutely, I think this is a great opportunity for us 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.600 to build community, for us to begin to really engage 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:11.280 with our people. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.800 You know, I think a lot of what we. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.920 See in this country is twisted and tormenting a lot 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.280 of folks. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.280 Folks are losing hope in certain places. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.760 But when your family comes and sees about you and 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.760 tells you that there is a path forward, I think 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.040 that that shall help us out. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.880 Absolutely. Absolutely. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:34.280 The state of the PPL dot Com, the state OFFTHEPPL 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.560 dot com if anyone who is listening would like to 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.160 throw down with us. There's room for volunteers. There's room 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.400 for money to help support us along the way, small 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.840 donations all the way up to the big stuff for 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.200 the big expenses. It's all volunteer. No one has put 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.920 a dime in their personal pockets. This is all work 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.920 that we're doing because we love and care for our people, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.360 and because we already in the streets, and so we 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.160 might as well take our efforts around the country and 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.120 meet up with our folks who, as I have been saying, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.080 some of the people that are on the ground in 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.120 these local communities, no more than we know, they have 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.920 solutions that we need to learn, we need to hear. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.200 They know how to keep their communities safe in ways 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.840 that we're trying to learn how to do. So with 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:23.800 that being said, I think what is also extremely important 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.520 is that we analyze some of the things that are 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.400 considered to be wins and some of the problematic behavior 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.920 surrounding our efforts and our work. And unfortunately sometimes that 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:41.240 problematic those problematic behaviors come from our own people, and 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.800 so recently in the last few weeks, Louisiana had a 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.839 big victory, which is really good because sometimes Louisiana, I 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.440 don't know what be going on in your state. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:56.240 They bugging tripping. But there were. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:01.480 Four constitutional amendments up for vote, and the people of 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.000 Louisiana voted it down. I think I saw that twenty 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.320 one percent of the people in Louisiana turned out. But 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.720 of that twenty one percent, sixty four percent of the 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:17.720 people voted no on all four constitutional amendments that Governor 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.200 Landry he supported all four. And you know, I saw 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.160 a whole bunch of things like, you know, criminalizing young people, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.560 and there was stuff about increasing judicial oversight. I mean, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:34.000 there was some real dangerous law enforcement or criminal justice 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.000 system rather pieces within these constitutional amendments. And you were, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.720 you know, or rallied people to say vote no on all, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.400 which thankfully folks showed up and they you know, did 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:51.079 what the local organizers told them to do in community 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.480 one another. But then also, you you know, made another 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.960 statement that I thought, and I thought you were really 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.839 kind about how you went about calling in our brother 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.839 fifty cent who's doing business in Louisiana, and he was 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.600 supporting the governor and supporting these these amendments, and now 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.120 I just want to say this one thing because I'm 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.160 gonna give you the floor and let you go. But 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.920 I remember a few weeks back where I on this show. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.520 One of the segments we talked about fifty cent who 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.600 he had put in an I guess application or however, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.520 I don't know exactly what it was he was working on, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.040 but there was a potential there was a possibility that 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:42.000 his proposal to the state would not go through because 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:47.520 the electorate whoever the elected officials had voted it down 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.080 or voted down the Let me just make sure I 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:51.560 get it right. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.720 They voted down allowing. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.680 Some outside contractor to come in and do business in 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.960 the state for a while, right, there was something like 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:02.960 that that happened. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.680 You can clear it up when you speak. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.720 But I know he had an issue where he did 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.920 not think he was going to be able to advance 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.120 his business with Louisiana to shoot there because of something 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:20.400 that was happening with the legislature. And then it went through, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.800 so he was able to get it done. So now 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.240 the question becomes what deal was done and what was 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.960 said to him in the process about what needed to 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.640 happen in order for him to be able to do business. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.560 I don't know if this is relevant, but it feels 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.640 relevant to me. So you take it from me and 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.240 tell us all about the amendments and what happened and 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.080 the people's vote and also fifty cents involvement. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.880 Well, first of all, thank y'all for highlighting the wins 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.840 in Louisiana. Too often we are a part of the 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.160 conversation for what we don't get right. So we got 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.000 it right this time, and I'm excited about that. The 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.800 key component to this is that black voters turned out 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.840 it thirty seven percent in early voting. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.800 We're still going through the day to see. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.080 What the total black turnout was, but we know that 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.640 black voters led this effort to kill these constitutional amendments 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.760 that would have been detrimental to out of state lawyer's. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.119 Amendment Number one I would have given. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.280 The ability to create a new system to penalize out 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.040 of state lawyers. So when you look at folks like 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.240 our brother Lee Merrit who's come in to help on 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.880 different cases from out of state or being crump, it 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.480 gives them a new way to be targeted by the 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.600 judiciary and other lawyers who come into Louisiana to do help, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.400 and there's already a mechanism to deal with that. Number 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.360 two was going to completely change our tax system. They 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:43.480 had a piece of that legislation that was set up 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.440 to kind of trick teachers into voting for it by 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.480 making them believe that they were getting a raised when 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.080 it was really just making a stipend that they had permanent. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.440 There was also a whole bunch of different things that 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.400 they were going to do in our tax code. Number 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.480 three was the most egregious, which got a lot of 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.720 attention in conversation, which would have allowed the legislature to 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:05.520 penalize juveniles at fourteen for different crimes as adults. So 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:11.359 Louisiana already sends juveniles to adult penitentiary for violent offenses. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.480 And what I appreciate about the rejection of that amendment 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.400 is it was black voters and white voters in over 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.879 fifty parishes out of sixty four that said no to 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.040 the governor about putting more kids in jail. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.480 Eighty percent of the kids in juvenile incarceration in. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.960 The state of Louisiana are young and black, and so 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.040 to have a unified effort that the majority of black 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.560 voters and white voters said no. Ninety percent of black 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.840 voters said no on all of these constitutional membis, and 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.280 over fifty percent of white voters in the state of 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.880 Louisiana said no to these constitutional membis. And number four 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.479 would have given the ability for them to run a 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.360 shorter clock on elections for the judiciary. So all four 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.000 of these policies were bad. All four of these policies 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.440 were killed. I want to shout out the Power Coalition, 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.800 all of the organizations in our state, the grassrooms organizers. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:01.960 My social media was. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.800 Lit up with people posting all through early voting, posting 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.920 all through the week, and what I love about this. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.439 We went to five different cities doing town halls. We 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.000 went to Streamport where Fifties got his music, his movie 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.240 studio that he's working on. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:16.640 And while we. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.359 Were in Shreveport, I would have loved to have had the 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.200 opportunity to sit down with my brother before he goes 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.200 out and talks about these things in a public manner. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.800 But to your point to me, the legislature had a 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.120 film tax credit. 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.199 That was within a limbo state with the new governor 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.920 trying to make changes around November, and so those changes 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.920 went through and I think what happened here was when 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.399 the governor got scared after seeing that early vote numbers 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.560 were up at thirty seven percent for black voters, he 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.640 tried to find the only black person he could get 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.320 to get on the phone and text black. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.399 People to encourage them to support it. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.879 Now, what I understand about fifty is he's somebody who's 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.760 a capitalist. And I don't have a problem with people 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.240 advancing themselves. I don't have a problem with people making money. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.840 I am welcoming to people coming to Streetforce specifically, which 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.399 I believe has the bones to be one of the 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.280 greatest cities in America in Louisiana. However, I do take 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.399 issue with when you tap in with white people to 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.160 tell black people what we need to do. I do 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.399 struggle when you are a person who says that you 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:24.160 won't touch politics and you don't deal with politics. I 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.280 have no problem if you would have been advocating for 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.159 yourself to get your taxi center, but your stuff was 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.959 already approved, sir. They are resigned to inat for you, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.720 so you didn't have to go out and advocate for them. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.920 You didn't have to take that role, and you didn't 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.960 have to not check in with black folk. I think 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.040 that you know, that is a disingenuous position to say 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.399 that you're not political and then to get all up 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.600 into politics, allowing people to send a video to thousands 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.920 of black voters in the state of Louisiana and then 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.399 expect those same black people to be supportive with you 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.680 later when you aren't supportive of the things that they're 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.000 supportive of. I think it's a walking contradiction. And so 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.760 I reached out to different folks that I the relationship 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.000 with him that to just say, hey, can you tell 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.240 dude that this is not necessarily the direction. And people 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.960 shared with me that they felt that he would continue 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.439