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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, hope everybody's doing well.

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Speaker 3: On this Tuesday, Chris brown Seed tasked with you. One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live is the show we've got all.

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Speaker 1: You've got a camera today, different camera set up today.

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Speaker 2: A malfunctioning camera, so we're down one camera.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, going with your Walter Cronkite, serious news dress.

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Speaker 1: Strange happenings on the set of one Strange happenings.

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Speaker 3: What it is, what it shall be, what it wants

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Speaker 3: news tonight, that's the word.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're we're ready to roll.

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Speaker 3: Steve's back in the saddle after doing some good public works,

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Speaker 3: raising money and doing stuff right with Bruce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't at Bruce's thing.

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Speaker 2: What happened.

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Speaker 1: I was double booked, and so weeks ago I got

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Speaker 1: asked by another of my relationships to be somewhere else

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Speaker 1: and then it comes turns out that Bruce's is the

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Speaker 1: same day, the same day. Also, just get this, so

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Speaker 1: you don't have the five Presidents tech loop. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's Jim, it's Bruce, It's Thurman, Darryl, Darryl, will Wolford,

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Speaker 1: Chris Moore, Cornie Bennett and Darryl Talley. So there's like

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Speaker 1: eight of us, but I call it the five Presidents.

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Speaker 1: So all those guys are you know, so them yesterday

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Speaker 1: as well. Andre Reid has a golf tournament in California

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Speaker 1: just so was on the same day as Bruce's, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: no issues there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they got to get there right so the

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Speaker 3: end there. Jim executive assistance on Kelly, was out.

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Speaker 1: At Andres yesterday. I was supposed to play in Bruce's yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Thurm was gonna play in this other one that I

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Speaker 1: ended up playing with because my relation asked me to

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Speaker 1: play there because Thurman had bagged them to play in Bruce's,

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Speaker 1: the one that I was going to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens that kind of way. There was a

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Speaker 2: domino effect there amongst them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I ended up playing in a in a

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Speaker 1: charity golf tournament in Greece. Thurman Greece, New York. Thurman

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Speaker 1: was at Bruce's in Lockport, Jim was at Andre's in.

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Speaker 2: California whatever, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Darrel was at Bruce's yesterday, and so was Butch Role.

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Speaker 1: Marlon Kerner was there, Rubens in town. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 1: was a good bunch of guys. But you know, and

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Speaker 1: I I mean, I would miss Bruce's for the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean Bruce's like, yeah, said this last night the

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Speaker 1: other night at the Bruce Smith Gallop, which I did

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Speaker 1: attend on Sunday nights.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're fine, then you did that.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, Bruce is it hasn't always been

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Speaker 1: this way, but that this current woman hit Bruce is

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame human being. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: teased him. I said it wasn't always that way.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He was laughing because I was right there with him, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I was that way too. So but you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But here's the thing. The guy,

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Speaker 1: he's unbelievable in his in his hometown of Petersburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Petersburg, one of the towns there

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Speaker 1: and around Richmond. He was the first citizen. He was

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Speaker 1: devoted as the first citizen. Oh that's like an award, Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: like like getting the key to the city or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But it's because of estate. There's been ninety six of

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Speaker 1: them in history.

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Speaker 2: Over the last one hundred years. He's he just got

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Speaker 1: Wow, And he's the first professional athlete to to get

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Speaker 1: it because he's been he's a commercial real estate developer.

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Speaker 1: He's doing very well in business. But his whole thing,

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Speaker 1: Bruce's whole thing, has been got given back.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's not He's made it.

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Speaker 1: Self available as a prominent athlete in the you know,

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Speaker 1: He's also big in Petersburg, Virginia, and I couldn't say

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too, there are certain people in your

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Speaker 2: You jump through hoops. If you can't.

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Speaker 1: You don't hesitate, Yeah, you don't hesitate. Bruce is one

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Speaker 1: with he is. Yeah, kudos to Bruce for doing that.

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Speaker 1: For the five fourteen Legacy Foundation. It's a great, great

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Speaker 1: I said, listen, I'll be your I'll be your boy

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Speaker 1: asking me like when, Yeah, when you're not here and

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Speaker 1: You know it's season, right, So I didn't mean that

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Speaker 1: I'm in, but it sounded funny.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, But I saw he was also in Toronto

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Speaker 2: Day throughout the first pitch. Yeah, he's a nice little one.

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Speaker 3: Did they just find out he was gonna be near

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if you talked to him about it.

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Speaker 2: I did, I did. I scared.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk to him about that.

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Speaker 1: He just had his knee replaced.

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Speaker 2: Bruce did. Oh really, Yeah, everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: If you watch Bruce a big fan, you knew he

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Speaker 1: had that funky knee because right where he stood around

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Speaker 1: it was like, right, maybe it's why he's a good.

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Speaker 3: I still remember at the latter end of his career,

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Speaker 3: when I started covering the team, he was one of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know if that's the knee he

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Speaker 1: He got it done by a guy named Ray Kim

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Speaker 1: and Aspen at that Stedman clinic. And Aspen, yeah, a guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually played golf with Ray. So he's a

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Speaker 1: And so Bruce had it done by him. Because Bruce

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Speaker 1: also spoke at doctor Stedman's retirement. I mean, that's Bruce.

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Speaker 1: They worked on him, right, Bruce is like their favorite

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Speaker 1: hot car. They modified him. He's like a cyborg.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but doctor Stedman, I've heard Bruce say, is largely

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Speaker 3: responsible for the last seven years of his career. That

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's not just Bruce either, that's other Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: they're cutting edge out there. So anyway that Bruce was

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Speaker 1: I think he was like sitting down all the time.

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Speaker 2: Won't be on the Staremaster for a while. No, no,

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Speaker 2: he told me. You know, I listen, Bruce loves that thing.

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Speaker 1: And we used to tease Bruce about taking days off

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Speaker 2: He said, oh, now after post surgery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a differentferent kind of you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, different people who have had their knee replace. No,

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Speaker 3: So it is because you're basically starting from scratch.

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Speaker 1: The strangest thing about that is and even the doctess,

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Speaker 1: Tell me the truth. I heard this and I don't

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Speaker 1: you know what, he goes, Like, after the surgery, you

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Speaker 1: get this, You get them right back up on their feet.

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Speaker 1: It's like ninety minutes after the surgery, you're up and

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised they let you do that because you got

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Speaker 2: They get them up and walk them around. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, wow, that's how that's how good the technology

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember my father in law got

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Speaker 3: holy crap. He was playing golf six weeks later.

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Speaker 2: Well, and he was.

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Speaker 3: He was already a senior citizen. I was like, what,

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Speaker 3: he's like the bionic man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great because the real issue these days the

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Speaker 2: But what I have been told is one of the issues.

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Speaker 1: With joint replacement is obviously post operative infection. Because it's

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Speaker 1: There are never any readmittances, never any post top infection,

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Speaker 1: He's never had one, so that's one of the reason.

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Speaker 1: And he's done thousands, so that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: It's all smooth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very smooth process sou But that's you're right.

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Speaker 1: You think about how evasive that surgery is, dude.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the joint is literally being real scratch and

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Speaker 2: They I mean it's like it's like the saw and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, and they got to attached stuff to give yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know, they got to attach stuff to your femur.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and your tibbia like crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But that that's But Bruce is in town and he

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Speaker 1: looked great, you know, he always looked great, and uh

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Speaker 1: so he's he's doing well. And I was really proud

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Speaker 1: to have Bruce back and it's good for our city.

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Speaker 1: I was very proud of Buffalo and the way they

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Speaker 1: supported Bruce. And this cause and the five fourteen Legacy

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Speaker 1: Foundation and uh they give scholarships to kids headed to

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Speaker 1: college and uh, just awesome stuff.

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Speaker 2: And and then I had the you know, I was

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Speaker 2: I couldn't be there for the colfture.

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Speaker 3: He you're bat at five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I think you're fine.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I'll say this too. I had

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Speaker 1: So he was going to come play yesterday in Bruce's

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Speaker 3: Friend of the show, Eric Adholme looked at some storylines

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Speaker 3: And leading us off today is Judy in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What what you got first? Judy?

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Speaker 5: You know, before you start to talk about cool, let

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Speaker 3: seven year starter at tackle in Lyle Collins, who may

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Speaker 3: not even start for this group, and he's been cross

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Speaker 3: training at guard and tackle. And then you have two

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Speaker 3: guys that have been in the pipeline the last two years,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Vandermark who served as the swing tackle last year,

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Speaker 3: and Alec Anderson, who's a center guard player who was

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Speaker 3: an undrafted player they've been grooming the last two years

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Speaker 3: who I think is ready to step into a backup role.

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Speaker 3: It was, in my opinion, part of the reason they

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Speaker 3: moved on from Ryan Bates and traded him to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: And then you still have Will Klapp, who was signed

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Speaker 3: away from the Chargers and I think has sixty seventy

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Speaker 3: games under his belt in the NFL and started games

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Speaker 3: at center.

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Speaker 4: And you.

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Speaker 1: Van Pran Granger, who may be the most accomplished center

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Speaker 1: in this year's draft. The guy played forty plus games

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Speaker 1: for Georgia, practiced every day against like five consecutive top

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Speaker 1: five defensive.

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Speaker 2: Line They're all playing in philadelph Philly and Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he practiced every day against those jokers. You

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be too much for him.

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Speaker 1: So Cedric van pran Granger is a guy who's coming

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Speaker 1: in brand Spankannoe to you know, you put him with

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Speaker 1: Osyrus Torrents.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys could be on this team for the

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Speaker 2: next decade. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there's another young player that they started growing last

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Speaker 3: year as a rookie, and that's Richard Garage, who's an

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle by trade. So there is plenty of youth

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Speaker 3: in the pipeline that's been developed by coach Gunnd and

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Speaker 3: coach Cromer on the offensive line. And I think they

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Speaker 3: feel like people players like Alec Anderson and Ryan Vandermark

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Speaker 3: can play primary backup roles and there won't be much

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Speaker 3: of a drop off should injury strike.

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Speaker 1: So your top five, obviously from right to left, Spencer Brown,

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Speaker 1: then it's Osiris Torrance, Connor McGovern at center. Left guard

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Speaker 1: is the one where we don't really know, but it

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Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be who'd you say, David Edwards.

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Speaker 2: Yes, or it could be it's probably gonna be David.

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Speaker 1: Probably gonna be David Edwards. And then of course Dion Dowkins.

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Speaker 1: And behind Dean Dowkins, you got I mean, dude, Lyle Collins.

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Speaker 3: Collins is a seven year starter in this league. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna say it again.

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Speaker 1: And he Lyle Collins, You've got conn You've got Vandermark

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Speaker 1: who is the David Edwards good grief clap.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna say this, the Bills have

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Speaker 3: the best offensive line in the division. And it's not

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Speaker 3: even close. Think about the mess that the Dolphins were

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Speaker 3: last year, the mess that the Jets were. Now. The

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Speaker 3: Jets signed a bunch of veteran free agents, but even

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Speaker 3: Jets reporters don't expect them to play seventeen games. And

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Speaker 3: I know they drafted Fashanu in the draft in the

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Speaker 3: first round, and that was a wise pick by them,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses have

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Speaker 3: too many more years left in them. Elijah Vera Tucker's

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Speaker 3: coming back from a season ending injury. He's a work

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Speaker 3: in progress to get back to where he was. And

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Speaker 3: then they have the center Joe Tipman, who I know

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Speaker 3: you liked coming out in the draft last year. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna probably start at center. But the Dolphins are a mess,

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Speaker 3: and the Patriots are still putting all the pieces together.

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Speaker 3: So the Bills by far have the best offensive line

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Speaker 3: in the division, and who knows that might carry the day.

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Speaker 1: Certainly it's gonna allow them to be more flexible offensively.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to rely that whatever is there

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Speaker 1: in the run game, they're gonna be able to grind

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: And maybe plus a little bit more. And they're not.

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Speaker 1: This is not going to turn into a running team

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Speaker 1: like the Chargers are gonna turn into a running team.

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Speaker 1: But this is a team that's going to be able

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Speaker 1: to do what they did in the last five or

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Speaker 1: well six games last year when they grounded out, had

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Speaker 1: to win and they were impossible to get off the field. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: they turned out more first downs than anybody in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last year, and they were the best third down

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Speaker 1: team conversion team in the league. I mean, they're just

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Speaker 1: unless the Bills help these teams, most of these teams

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Speaker 1: can't beat them even when they're playing their best. So

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Speaker 1: unless the Bills turn it over or miss a kick,

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Speaker 1: you can't beat them. You can't beat them. So that's

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Speaker 1: the way it's going to be this year as well.

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Speaker 1: And this offensive line is testament to that. These guys,

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Speaker 1: they're neck deep in big, experienced athletic offensive linemen. They're

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Speaker 1: neck deep in them. They've got a really good roster

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Now, having said that, nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to see six guys go down with acls up there either,

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Speaker 1: because then you're going to be in proper You're gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Problems as any team, as any team would.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones, though, and we go

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Speaker 2: to Butch on the east side. We got first, Butcher,

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Speaker 2: thank you, first.

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Speaker 4: Good after let me check Michael sure I talk about

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Speaker 4: the topic and I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Butch.

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Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta put you on hold, Butch, because

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Speaker 3: you're you're not coming through good here.

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Speaker 2: You're in and out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're on speakerphone or something, but

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Speaker 3: your signal if you're calling on a cell, isn't great

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Speaker 3: and we're having trouble hearing you. And now I'm just

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Speaker 3: getting word that there is a phone issue right now.

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Speaker 3: So if you're holding at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 3: point fifty, let the good folks at w g R

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Speaker 3: handle those and I'll let you know when it's good

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Speaker 3: to chime in again. Butch, actually wanted to talk about

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Speaker 3: the Bills linebacking core. He feels that that's one that

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Speaker 3: maybe deserves a little more attention. And I understand why,

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Speaker 3: I'm Milano, You're still waiting to see him return to form,

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Speaker 3: But I think Bernard has stamped himself as an unquestioned

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Speaker 3: leader of this defense on a.

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Speaker 2: Side of the ball that needs new leadership.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm telling you right now a guy I'm

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Speaker 3: excited about at that position is Dorian Williams. It kind

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Speaker 3: of went by the board at the end of the

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Speaker 3: year last year, Steve. But if you look at Dorian

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Speaker 3: Williams play from about week seventeen eighteen and then the

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Speaker 3: two playoff games when Bernard was hurt, when Tyrel Dodson

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Speaker 3: got hurt.

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Speaker 2: He flashed. You noticed him more.

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Speaker 3: He was a different player at the end of his

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Speaker 3: rookie season than he was at the beginning when he

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Speaker 3: got some playing time and then found a seat on

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Speaker 3: the bench because he couldn't read assignments and process things

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Speaker 3: quickly enough. By the end of the season, he was

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Speaker 3: and he was thumping people.

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Speaker 1: He was his thing, is what I noticed about him.

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Speaker 1: He is so athletic. The guy can run, He can

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Speaker 1: out run Milano. He can out run Bernard. He's the

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Speaker 1: fastest linebacker. I think, I don't, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I have tiedy, but he looks to me like he's

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Speaker 1: the fastest linebacker on the roster. The guy can fly

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Speaker 1: around and he brings he brings an attitude when he

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Speaker 1: gets there. He is a quintessential modern day NFL linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He's not like one of those six four to two

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Speaker 1: and fifty pound guys. He's one of those six two

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Speaker 1: to twenty five guys who can outrun everybody on the

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Speaker 1: field in the front seven.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 1: He seems to really see it quick and react well.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him play. You know, you're going

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Speaker 1: to see him in there in the preseason at least,

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Speaker 1: even if he's not going to be the number one guy.

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Speaker 3: That guy might be your first linebacker off the bench

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Speaker 3: at the event of an injury though.

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Speaker 1: That's right, if Milano or even if Milano needs a

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Speaker 1: week or two to get back healthy, is the guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dorian Williams is the guy that's given Milano a day off.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, even in training can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like what he's brought to the table.

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Speaker 3: I think people forget a Baile inspector's still in the fold. Here,

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Speaker 3: another great athlete, like a good solid reserve middle linebacker,

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Speaker 3: you know. And then after that you got Eddie Yulafotio,

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Speaker 3: the rookie from Washington who is going to play on

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Speaker 3: special teams right out of the Chuote and has some promise.

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Speaker 3: And then you have veterans you know that they signed

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Speaker 3: in free agency, in Dion Jones.

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Speaker 2: And Nick Morrow.

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Speaker 3: And then you got the long shot that everybody's pulling for,

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Speaker 3: Joe and Joe Andreeson, the local kid here from western New.

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Speaker 2: York, you know, Andresen's got some size. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was impressed with length. Yeah, length, He's lanky, and

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Speaker 1: he's also got it. You know, he's he's thick enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his weight is, but he you know,

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Speaker 1: he looks he looks like a physical type player. And

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Speaker 1: of course, you know, being a Buffalo kid, we're all

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Speaker 1: hoping he can do it. He strikes me as the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy that's going to be able to hang

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Speaker 1: around the building for a year at least in the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, and they'll give me a chance to develop,

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Speaker 1: least if he doesn't make out, make outright, make the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside and take a break here.

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Speaker 3: But we are asking you today what part of the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four bills do you believe deserves more attention?

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Speaker 3: Hold up on the phone calls. Once we get him

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Speaker 3: squared away, I'll let you know when the phone lines

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Speaker 3: are open again. There are a little reving technical difficulties

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Speaker 3: right now. You can chime in on the tweetsheet though

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Speaker 3: at One Bill's Live on Twitter, so be sure to

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Speaker 3: do that if you want to weigh in, and we'll

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Speaker 3: take those when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 3: presented by Kalida Helpit's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you on a Tuesday

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Speaker 3: topic of discussion. What part of the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: bills do you believe deserves more attention? Whether you are

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Speaker 3: ultra optimistic about some group that you don't thinks getting

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Speaker 3: enough pub or some concern you might have that you

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Speaker 3: think deserves more attention for that reason. Eight oh three

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Speaker 3: oh five point fifty one eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 3: five fifty As we believe our phones are back up

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Speaker 3: and running. So we'll try take two with Butch on

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Speaker 3: the east side. Here, what do you got for his Butch?

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we've got a better connection. No, boy, we have

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Speaker 3: no connection.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we do. I'm gonna pitch Butch.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's put We'll put Butcher on hold,

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Speaker 3: and we'll put a hold on phone calls as well.

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Speaker 3: We will check things out in terms of your comments

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Speaker 3: on Twitter, uh at one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: And so I think when we talk talking about this

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Speaker 1: topic in the run up to the show today, my

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Speaker 1: thought was the only thing I'm worried about. And I listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm eddy optimist here. I mean, I'm nobody puts more

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: positive spin on this team than me. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: I drink the kool aid and order more online. So,

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Speaker 1: but I think the thing that needs more consideration is

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Speaker 1: really the only thing that needs considerations the schedule for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. The only the teams that beat this team

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Speaker 1: are helped by the Bills themselves. The Bills are their

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Speaker 1: own worst en. I mean a lot of situations and

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Speaker 1: teams just don't come in and run this team off

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Speaker 1: the field. Ever, they don't even look like nobody makes

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Speaker 1: the Bills look like an easy out. If they beat

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Speaker 1: this team, it's because the Bills stumble or they turn

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Speaker 1: it over, or they, like I said, they miss a kick,

655
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: or they do whatever. Name the scenario. We've seen it,

656
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the Hail Murray, thirteen second whatever. If this team doesn't

657
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: help you beat them, you don't beat them.

658
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: And but this schedule is commensurate with a team like

659
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: the Bills, who are.

660
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: At the top of the heap year after year after year.

661
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: They get the number one schedule every year. They're a

662
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: division champ for the fourth year in a row.

663
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: This shouldn't be.

664
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Uncharted territory for this club. They get these kind of

665
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: schedules and have from now for the last four years,

666
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: so they know what they're getting into. And it's not

667
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna They're not gonna they're not gonna blink at this

668
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: schedule when they look at it. Certainly they understand they're

669
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: good teams. But for us out here outside the locker room, yeah,

670
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: this looks like nobody else has a schedule like this,

671
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: and that's so that's I think the one thing that

672
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: is different about this group of Bills than other teams

673
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: in the past. I mean, you've got you know, you're

674
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs and the forty nine ers and the

675
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Rams and the Lions and the Ravens. You know, it's

676
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: it's tough. It is a tough, tough schedule. And that's

677
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: why that's the one thing for me, that is the

678
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: one thing I think it needs more consideration, is because

679
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: it's the one thing we the Bills can't control. They

680
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: can't control. They gotta they gotta. It just gets handed

681
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: to them, and you got to make the best of it.

682
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: So the schedule for the Bills is as tough as

683
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: any of the league, like, at least from this end

684
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: of it. He Certainly, as the season progresses, it could

685
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: turn out to be a cakewalk if certain things happen

686
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: and guys get you know, other teams falter. But from

687
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: this end of the schedule, you gotta like, you know,

688
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: you kind of gotta like get loosened up for this

689
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be a it's gonna be a long road,

690
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: a long road to the playoffs. If the Bills can

691
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: get back there.

692
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: Let's uh try butcher on the east side.

693
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: See if third time is a charm butch do we

694
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: have you?

695
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: First of all, good after.

696
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, And I just.

697
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 4: Want to just say back to the topic about positivity

698
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: in the community. In the community, and they set the

699
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: front office and definitely have to pay in order to

700
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: be successful. You can have a lot of these talents

701
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: and everything else, but everything else both soca. Well, this

702
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 4: is the reason why Steve Andre ruts Kelly. I'm always

703
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: gonna say, say Steve because he has a yellow jacket

704
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: already in my mind in my father. But before we

705
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 4: had that, he had olympal James Simpson, he war number

706
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: thirty two. Steve wore number eighty nine, Andre reed Ward

707
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: number eighty three. The sensitivity of this organization right now

708
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: as the day when his Washington No read players, Kawan Brown,

709
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: Ryan Thompson or Tray k Kitty should be wearing these

710
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: numbers disrespective organization thing.

711
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: But she don't get too don't get too caught up

712
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: in the number thing. Listen, It's just a number on

713
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: a jersey. And I know that you and I know

714
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: you have a sentimental attachment to you know, number thirty

715
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: two and number eighty three, number thirty four, number seventy eight.

716
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: I get that, and certainly it's an it's maybe as

717
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: high in honor as a player can receive to be

718
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: have that jersey retired by the organization. But don't get

719
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in the fact that the players,

720
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: because listen, those players that you mentioned, they don't get

721
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: to pick those jerseys.

722
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I understand, I understand what you're saying,

723
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: and I respect you lovely by you saying them, But

724
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: they but the way they have done numbers from zero.

725
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: You can wear any number you can now and understand

726
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: a bunch of other time there was certain number of

727
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: jerseys and to a positions can wear number numbers and

728
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: understand you as a player from new and I'm humbly

729
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: I'm humbly honored that you said that does. But as

730
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: samely we we respect the certain numbers because we we

731
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 4: have posters on our wall with those numbers on the

732
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: So from a fans respective, we actual organization would be

733
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: more simptive of the former players, especially the Hall of Famous,

734
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: that that you have to respect the wall family. You're

735
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: going to be up there Steve on the wall.

736
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: No, he's up there already.

737
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you know, and beg my part for getting that.

738
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: At the same time as saying I need my organization

739
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: who I love to respect these yellow jacket tied players.

740
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and I get it, but I get

741
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: your sensitivity to it. And you know, you have a

742
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: lot of respect for players like Steve and others. But

743
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: but the honor lies in one of the in the

744
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: way that you just mentioned their names are on the

745
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: Wall of Fame. That is a far greater honor and

746
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: far longer lasting than you know what happens with the

747
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: jersey now.

748
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Retiring the jersey number, as.

749
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: Steve said, is the ultimate respect that an organization can

750
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: pay a player.

751
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: And what do we have twelve, seventy eight and thirty four?

752
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: That's it fitting? Yes, and I get it and that. Yeah,

753
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: But here's the other.

754
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: Thing that we're running into because I'm gonna stick up

755
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: for our equipment people like Jeff Missus. There are a

756
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: finite amount of numbers that can be issued choices. Okay,

757
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: that's number one. Number two, the Bills are gonna have

758
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: ninety one players in camp. So even though they have

759
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: the added number of zero, which is being used by

760
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman, there is a finite amount of numbers.

761
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: To go around. Now obviously can't use Yeah.

762
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: So obviously when that and there's already three they're already

763
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: off limits, yes, right, So they're very limited in what

764
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 3: they can hand out. And they used to be able

765
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 3: to exercise more discretion in the past when the roster

766
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: was fifty three and the practice squad was seven.

767
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: The practice squad.

768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: Now is sixteen. Like, no matter what, you have sixty

769
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: nine players wearing a jersey in the building the entire season,

770
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of a tougher ask, and

771
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: I think because of that, it's a little bit of

772
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: a tougher.

773
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Road to ho. I get the sentiment Brousch.

774
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: I do. But the equipment guys have a job to

775
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: do also, and that's to outfit the team, and especially

776
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: this time of year, with ninety one people, there's only

777
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: so many numbers to go around.

778
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get all philosophical here, but I

779
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: probably will.

780
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Certainly.

781
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: It's flattering and heartwarming and and all kinds of good

782
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: to have people like Butch and others say wonderful things

783
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: about me and the guys. I played with the guys

784
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: in the past and remember them fondly, and to be

785
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: a part of the history of a club that you

786
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: still have a lot of affection for a guy like me. Yes,

787
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: I do have a lot of affection for Bruce and

788
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: his number seventy eight, and Thurman and his number seventy four.

789
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Certainly Jim and his number twelve thirty four. What I say,

790
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: seventy four.

791
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: Thirty four and all of that.

792
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: But let me say this too, and I've been I've

793
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: worked very hard in my in my after year, my

794
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: later years in life to feel this way. I've got

795
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: nothing but love and respect for the guys who played

796
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: the game now and to hold them accountable for the

797
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: jersey number that they wore, and having to respect guys

798
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: who they've never met or don't know, or who played

799
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: three decades before them. I think that's a tough ask,

800
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: and I think it's unreasonable, and I think it's disrespectful

801
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: to them. It is no easy task to get to

802
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: sign a contract with an NFL football team. You've got

803
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: to pay a lot of dues to make that happen.

804
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: And to have somebody say you're being disrespectful because you

805
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: ask for a jersey number, maybe even a jersey number

806
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: that even two generations away, was inspired by one of

807
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the guys you're talking about. You know, a running back

808
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: who comes in who wants to wear the number thirty

809
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: two for the Buffalo Bills, was inspired by a guy

810
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: on another team like the Oakland Raiders Marcus Allen, who

811
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: was inspired by the guy you're talking about. Don't all

812
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: of that stuff goes into the mix. So I don't

813
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: think it's disrespectful for a guy to come in and

814
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: wear a number that you have affections to for another

815
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: player he's not. I got the number I got because

816
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: I walked into the into the locker room. It was

817
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: hanging my locker. That's how much choice I had. I

818
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: had no choice, So that's how I got them. You

819
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: make the number what you did. Think about Bruce. You

820
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: never ever ever see any NFL player defensive lineman. We're

821
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: number seventy eight. There's nobody they don't know. Nobody picks

822
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: that number. Even though Bruce wore it, nobody picks it.

823
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Bruce made that thing his own, and now it's retired

824
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: and he's.

825
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: Got a gold jacket.

826
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Give every guy a chance to get his jersey and

827
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: make you think of him when he when you see

828
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: it instead of somebody else. Give him that chance. That's

829
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: they've they've earned that level of respect. Certainly, they may not.

830
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: They're not all gonna get there, but give them that chance.

831
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: And I don't have any I don't have. I hope

832
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the next guy that wears eighty nine for the Bills

833
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: kills it. I hope he's has the career I had,

834
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: or even better, that's where you got to live your life, folks.

835
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: We love those guys and I feel it.

836
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: People.

837
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean I was at a golf tournament yesterday and

838
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: there was nothing but love and affection for all the

839
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: memories that they have for this team and all the

840
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: guys I played with, and all the history.

841
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: It is great.

842
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to give that to the guys that

843
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: are coming up the pipe now, regardless of their jersey number.

844
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I promise you give them that chance because it may

845
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: be worth it. With that, we will take a break here,

846
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: but we'll be back with more of your phone calls.

847
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: Is we are asking you what part of the twenty

848
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: twenty four bills do you believe deserves more attention? You

849
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: let us know at eight h three oh five fifty

850
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: or on the tweets sheet at one Bills Live. Back

851
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: with more of your phone calls next here on one

852
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Live.

853
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

854
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: Looking for a fun and exciting place to work this fall.

855
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: Want to be part of the high Mark Stadium family,

856
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: look no further than the twenty twenty four high Mark

857
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: Stadium Job Fair. This event will take place on July

858
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: sixteenth from five to eight pm in the high Mark

859
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: Stadium Press Box. Learn about open opportunities with our stadium

860
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: partners and be a part of the on the spot interviews.

861
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: For more information, visit the high Mark Stadium social media

862
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 3: channels and that's coming up here July sixteenth, So market

863
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: on your calendars if that sounds something of interest to you.

864
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: Of interest to us is your comments and thoughts on

865
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: what part of the twenty twenty four bills you believe

866
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: deserves more attention, either because you're concerned about how it's

867
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: going to take shape, or because you think it's going

868
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: to be pretty darn good and should get a little

869
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: bit more more exposure than it's getting on the cusp

870
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty four campaign. Eight oh three five

871
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: fifty one eight eight five point fifty two, five fifty

872
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: that's the number to get on board.

873
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you there.

874
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna try Dave in New Jersey next and see

875
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: if we have these phone issues ironed out.

876
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Dave?

877
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 7: Okay, three three boy? The number one you open the

878
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 7: show with about knees.

879
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, knee surgery.

880
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 7: The reason, the reason they get you right up is

881
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 7: to convince you that your new knee is stronger than

882
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 7: the old one. I have one at fifteen years old. Okay.

883
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 7: On on top of that, they want to get the

884
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 7: muscles moving. Okay. And then second second thing is real,

885
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 7: real quick for Steve. Okay, if you happen to be

886
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 7: an East the Roar and stop by fiddlers, you can

887
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 7: say hello for me, I'm personal friends with them. And lastly,

888
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 7: it's the offense. They're understating what the offense is going

889
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: to do. I think it's gonna be red hot and

890
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 7: much better than in the past. Okay, because I just

891
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 7: think with now you get the whole new offense in.

892
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I think so too. I think

893
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be humming early.

894
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: I think they will. Yeah.

895
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: The big debate, I think that all of us are

896
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: kind of having just in you know, off the air

897
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: kind of discussions is under Ken Dorsey. We saw a

898
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: heavy use of twelve personnel Dawson Knox get injured, gets injured,

899
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: he's on IR he's gone for eight to ten games.

900
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 3: Twelve personnel goes away, Joe Brady since takes over, Dawson

901
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: Knox comes back at the very end of the season,

902
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: and I never felt like they were able to get

903
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: back on track even if they wanted to, and we

904
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: don't know if they wanted to. So now off full

905
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 3: off season number one and two receivers out the door,

906
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: New Blend coming in. What can you lean on from

907
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: last year that actually worked for you in the early going.

908
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: Let's not forget Steve.

909
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: First four weeks of the season, the Bills were a

910
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: top two scoring offense in the NFL and they were

911
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: only trumped by the Dolphins because they scored seventy points

912
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: on the Broncos. Right, I mean, Dolphins Bills one and

913
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: two in scoring the first quarter of the year, when

914
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: Dawson Knox was still healthy, and that was before Kim

915
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: Kaid had even gotten on track yet. So I'm wondering

916
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: if and look, I understand, you don't want to put

917
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: all your eggs in the two tight end basket because

918
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: if one of them gets hurt like last year, where

919
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: are you but I wonder if we see a little

920
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: bit more of that, especially early in the season, to

921
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: kind of carry them through while these other receivers get

922
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: up to speed who are a little newer to the system.

923
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: Well you think of that, maybe, Yeah, I think there's

924
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: a lot in that. And I think that you're right

925
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: in that there's a lot going on last year with

926
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: this offense when when they were switching coordinator. First of all,

927
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: they had to get to a point where they felt

928
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: they needed to switch coordinators. Then they had to switch coordinators,

929
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: and then you had Dawson Knox's injury on top of that,

930
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: and then whatever else was going on with Josh and

931
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: how he was feeling physically that he was playing through.

932
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: You got a lot of You got a lot of

933
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: irons in the fire there that you got to consider

934
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: a lot of I guess better way to put his

935
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: A lot of bowling pins in the air that you're

936
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to juggle, and you and then at the and

937
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: then at the end of it, you gotta win or

938
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: your season's over. At any given point, you were a

939
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 1: three game deficit to the Dolphins with five games to play,

940
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: you gotta win. So they're not gonna like start pouring

941
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: test tubes into one another.

942
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: At that point, you've got to go.

943
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: So Shakirs they started depending on Shakiir, they started depending

944
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: on Kincaid, and they kept going to digs as well,

945
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: giving him plenty of targets as well. And then they

946
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: also started handing the ball off in certain situations, which

947
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: was different.

948
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

949
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: And their offensive line at that point, remember, was healthy

950
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: and going.

951
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: They were clicking.

952
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: By that time, they had, you know, well into a

953
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: season where none of them took a break, so they

954
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: were humming.

955
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: So they used it.

956
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: All of that stuff in the mix says, Yeah, the

957
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: two tight end thing might have been on the back

958
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: burner and they just might not have said, listen, we're

959
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: not messing with that right now. You know, certainly if

960
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: they got into a game where they thought they were

961
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do that and all that. But

962
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: then again, yeah, the matchups were fine and stuff. Everything's

963
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: on the menu now. I think the whole table is

964
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: set for them to do whatever they want. And I

965
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: think Joe Brady knows it. This stuff we talk about

966
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: with the two tight ends, it may come to fruition.

967
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: It may be the thing that's like, wow, okay, here

968
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: we go because it looks like teams, a lot of

969
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: teams would love to run it if they had the

970
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: tight ends that could get it done. And I'm pretty

971
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: sure Bill's Mafia thinks we do have those two tight ends,

972
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I think we're looking for

973
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: that and I don't have a problem with it. I

974
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: think it's a great idea.

975
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we've mentioned that Bucky Brooks from NFL dot

976
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: Com is a big believer that twelve personnel is going to.

977
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Be more prevalent across the league.

978
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: And when you have teams like the Bills with Kincaid

979
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: and Knocks, the Raiders with Michael Mayer and Brock Bowers,

980
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: the two kids up in Green Bay, Yep, you know, Muskraven,

981
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: think about Tucker Kraft.

982
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: The bigger, faster athletes you put on the field, the

983
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: harder they are to match up against because you've got

984
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: a bigger, stronger athletes to match up with them. And

985
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: you get a guy like Kincaid and I don't know

986
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: if he can do this, but like, for instance, if

987
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: you get a tight end who can go outside and

988
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: run outside the number routes and you got, well, gosh,

989
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: we got to put our corners on that guy, or

990
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: they're not going to do that, and they put the

991
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: walk a linebacker out there. However they match up with it.

992
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you got a guy out there

993
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: running in space who's six ' four two point fifty

994
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: and you got a five to ten buck ninety guy

995
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: trying to cover him.

996
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: That's a problem. That's a problem.

997
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: Now if you if you do walk a linebacker out there,

998
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: or if you walk a linebacker out there, you hand

999
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: the ball off and you got the other tight end in.

1000
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: You got five offensive linemen, a tight end, no linebacker,

1001
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: go defense. Yeah, you know, uh so they got a problem.

1002
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Kin kid and knock seemed like that. You know that

1003
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: mister inside mister outside kind of combo that gives teams fits.

1004
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely something that gives opposing defenses problems.

1005
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any debate about that.

1006
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: So to not explore it would almost be foolhardy. And

1007
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: with the talent that they have at the tight end position,

1008
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: it would make sense to at least turn to that

1009
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: at times based on matchups and opponents.

1010
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: And the caveat is this, you're in this game and

1011
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: twelve that you're gonna kill them with this twelve personnel.

1012
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: Here we go, We're gonna do it, and then Knox

1013
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: breaks his wrist.

1014
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1015
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: Well, now that entire chunk of your game plan for

1016
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: that single game is out the window. And now you're like,

1017
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: we got like four plays to run that kind of

1018
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating to make a point, but that's it, the

1019
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: big chunk of your offense, Gonzo, unless you have a

1020
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: third tight end that you think can do the exact

1021
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: same thing as the other two.

1022
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: We have to take a break here, but our number

1023
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: two is going to begin with a guest and fell

1024
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: writer for the thirty third Team, Dan Pezuda, is going

1025
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: to join us. That's some interesting things to say about

1026
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir At Oliver, among others. We'll get to that

1027
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: with Dan when we return here on One Bill's Live

1028
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: presented by Colida Health.

1029
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1030
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calmida.

1031
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: Help all right, hour number two on a Tuesday. Chris Brown,

1032
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Steed Casper with you. Thanks for joining us here on

1033
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: One Bills Live.

1034
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: Please to be joined now though by NFL writer for

1035
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: the thirty third Team, Dan Pezuda. It might be the

1036
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: off season, But Dan's cranking out content over there. Wanted

1037
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: to get him on for a couple of minutes. So Dan,

1038
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us, first of all. Second, you're riding

1039
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: the Khalil Shakir train as far as breakout candidates in

1040
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four goes, I can tell you you are

1041
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: not alone. But what kind of booys your hopes that

1042
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: a breakout season is wholly possible for Khalil this year?

1043
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, First of all, thank you ys for having me on. Second,

1044
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 6: Kohil Shakira is just first to just start. He's a

1045
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: really fun player just kind of the types of things

1046
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: he is able to do. I think kind of going

1047
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: back to college, I think he was kind of underrated

1048
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 6: in where he came out in the draft. I put

1049
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 6: together some you know, metrics for college wide receivers every gear,

1050
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 6: and Shakir was very favorable in that and probably should

1051
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 6: have gotten drafted, you know, by that metric ahead of

1052
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 6: where he was drafted. And then you kind of just

1053
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 6: look at what he was able to do in a

1054
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 6: small sample when he was on the field before this

1055
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: past season, and then when you look at what he

1056
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 6: was able to do in the offense this past season

1057
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 6: when he got more playing time, and it was a

1058
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 6: lot of fun stuff. He's able to work down the field.

1059
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: I think he's a very smooth route runner, probably better

1060
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 6: than he's given credit for. And I think there were

1061
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 6: a lot of very cool designs that they used to

1062
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: kind of get him the ball in his hands. They

1063
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 6: were doing some kind of fake screens to him to

1064
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 6: get him into space, And I just think he's the

1065
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 6: kind of guy that can win pretty much anywhere you

1066
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 6: line him up on the field. So when you have

1067
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 6: him now, he's going to probably take a much bigger

1068
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 6: role in this offense. I'm really excited to see how

1069
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 6: that role was going to develop because I think he

1070
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 6: can handle a lot of different things.

1071
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: How much did he show us something because he didn't

1072
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: see that the field that much in the first half

1073
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: of last season. Then with the new offensive cord, the

1074
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: change made at the top, he really crescendoed as the

1075
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: season progressed, right into the playoffs, right into the Pittsburgh game,

1076
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: in the lague games against Miami, he crescendoed at the

1077
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: right time to kind of be poised for a better

1078
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: year this year. If he can pick up where he left.

1079
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 6: Off, yeah, absolutely, And I think that's kind of where

1080
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 6: you're looking at what he was able to do because

1081
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 6: you can't project a lot of things, and it was

1082
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 6: you know, with this offense too. I think once Joe

1083
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 6: Brady kind of got control of the offense and they

1084
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 6: were able to do some more fun things in that way,

1085
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 6: that is definitely where he kind of shined a little bit.

1086
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 6: And I think that's where kind of spreading the ball

1087
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 6: out a little more, getting him into space a little

1088
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 6: more is kuy was a little bit more of the

1089
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 6: focus on the offense and you know, without a you know,

1090
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 6: bona fide number one type of receiver that they're not

1091
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 6: really going to have this year own by someone really

1092
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 6: steps up. I think that's going to be more of

1093
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 6: how this offense runs. And I think that is going

1094
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 6: to be, you know, really beneficial to a guy like

1095
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 6: Shakir who I think, like I said, can you be

1096
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 6: really good in the slot? And I think you have

1097
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 6: a bunch of receivers who can be really good in

1098
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 6: the slot, but I think he'd be good outside some

1099
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 6: of the screens that they were running for him, some

1100
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 6: of the downfield things. So I think there's a lot

1101
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 6: of good things that we saw in how Joe Brady

1102
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 6: kind of tried to use him in the offense last

1103
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 6: year that I think is going to translate into twenty

1104
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 6: twenty four.

1105
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: Another list you put together was underrated players in the NFL.

1106
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: Another Bill made that list. That was At Oliver, who

1107
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: made number three on the list that you put together.

1108
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're feeling is on this stand.

1109
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: It's not like the Bills are not a highly visible team.

1110
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: I mean, they had nine games in primetime windows last

1111
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: year after all the flexing, and yet Ed Oliver may

1112
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: have had the quietest nine and a half sax season

1113
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: for a defensive tackle on the planet. Why do you

1114
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: think he still remains underrated even now?

1115
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's kind of a fault of the

1116
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 6: expectations a little bit that he kind of, I think

1117
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 6: had coming into his career being such a high draft pick.

1118
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 6: I think we kind of and he was kind of

1119
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 6: billed at the time as you know, he could be,

1120
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 6: you know, the Bills version of Aaron Donald, and he

1121
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 6: hasn't been that. I don't think those are fair expectations

1122
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 6: to really put on anyone. So and then there were,

1123
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 6: you know, some some stopping starts to him a little bit.

1124
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 6: I think, you know, the twenty twenty two season, he

1125
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 6: was you know, some injuries he was playing through, but

1126
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 6: if you look at like ESPN's pass rush win rate

1127
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 6: and run stop win rate, he was one of I

1128
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 6: think he was the only interior defender in the top

1129
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 6: ten of both, So he was still really good under

1130
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 6: the radar there. And then just kind of this past year,

1131
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 6: I think there were a lot of other things going

1132
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 6: on with the Bills, right even though there were a

1133
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 6: lot of eyeballs on them. You had, you know, the

1134
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 6: offensive transition that was happening in the middle of the year.

1135
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 6: You had some of the other things with injuries that

1136
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 6: were going on on the defense, so not a lot

1137
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 6: of people were focusing on what ed Oliver was doing.

1138
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 6: But man, his twenty twenty three season was was really

1139
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 6: incredible when you go back and really watch what he

1140
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 6: was doing, the way the Bills were lining him up

1141
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 6: in different spots to kind of put him in spots

1142
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 6: that were, you know, in a deficit because of some

1143
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 6: of those injuries. He was lining up on the edge

1144
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 6: a couple on third downs and things like that. So

1145
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 6: when you really look at how versatile he was and

1146
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: the production he hadn't. He had a great twenty twenty

1147
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 6: three season, and again I expect that to continue into

1148
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four.

1149
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Speaker 1: Today on our show, we asked our viewers and listeners,

1150
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: you know what about this twenty twenty four edition of

1151
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills deserves more attention, and earlier in the show,

1152
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I said, for me, it has nothing to do about

1153
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: this team. It has to do with about their schedule,

1154
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: a really tough schedule coming down. And I think if

1155
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: there's anything and one thing we've seen from this team

1156
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: over the last three years, if they don't help you,

1157
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: you're not going to beat them. And they're They've got

1158
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: a schedule this year that is even as formidable as

1159
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: it is the Bills are kind of used to it.

1160
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: Is there a fourth straight year of a number one

1161
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: first place schedule.

1162
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm doing some work on the FTN

1163
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 6: Almanac form Lead Football Outsiders Almanac this year, and I know,

1164
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 6: just kind of looking at our projections that do believe

1165
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 6: that the Bills have the toughest schedule in the league

1166
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 6: by a projected DV away. So yeah, that is a lot.

1167
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 6: So but again, this this is a good team, Like

1168
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 6: you said, it's not something that they're not used to, So,

1169
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 6: you know, I still would expect them to be hanging

1170
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 6: in a lot of these games. And you know, if

1171
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 6: you look at you know something that that does give

1172
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 6: you do want more attention on. I think it is

1173
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 6: kind of going to be the offense and in some

1174
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 6: of those pass catchers. When you look at like Shakir,

1175
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: I think, you know, there are some people, you know,

1176
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 6: just kind of overall in the you know, the grand

1177
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 6: scheme of of people who are looking at some league

1178
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 6: wide probably a little concerned about what the Bills are

1179
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 6: going to have at pass catcher without digs now, But

1180
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 6: I think you have three pretty solid guys with Samuel

1181
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 6: Shakir and Kean Colebyn. I'm very interested to see how

1182
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 6: those three guys that are going to shake out in

1183
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 6: the roles they play. So I think all of them

1184
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 6: probably are at their best in the slot. But I

1185
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: do think you have a guy like Shakiro can win outside.

1186
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 6: I think you just have a lot of different ways

1187
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 6: to win. So I think even if there's not that

1188
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 6: number one guy, I think there are a lot of

1189
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 6: really interesting receiving options that can win in a number

1190
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 6: of different ways. So I'm not as concerned about that

1191
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 6: offense and the pass catching group that I think some

1192
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 6: people are that I've kind of seen some concern there.

1193
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: And because of that, Dan and I know NFL dot

1194
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: COM's Bucky Brooks has mentioned this, and maybe if that

1195
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: new receiving corps is a little slow to gel, this

1196
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: is a team that could be leaning on two tight

1197
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: ends set, something they did at the beginning of the

1198
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: season last year under former coordinator Ken Dorsey than Dawson

1199
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: Ox gets hurt and the thing just disappears and falls

1200
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: off a cliff and they lean on Kincaid a whole

1201
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 3: lot more. But could you see that as a way

1202
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: to kind of get this offense out of the starting

1203
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: blocks while that receiving core, which is very new, gets

1204
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: up to speed.

1205
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so that's probably something they are going

1206
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 6: to want to lean on a little bit. And that

1207
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 6: was definitely what was the goal I think when they

1208
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 6: drafted Kinkaid. I think and I wrote about this for

1209
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 6: thirty third Team with some of the twelve personnel. When

1210
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: you kind of get into your issues, is you're trying

1211
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 6: to be this mismatch type of offense, right when you

1212
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 6: have two tight ends on the field, you're kind of

1213
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 6: hoping that teams are going to you know, they're going

1214
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 6: to be too small in nickel or they're going to

1215
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 6: be too slow in base teams are defenses are more

1216
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: inclined to just play nickel against two tight end sets

1217
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 6: now and kind of dare you to run against them

1218
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 6: when you were the offense. So one of the things

1219
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 6: that would make me a little more optimistic for the

1220
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 6: Bills in those sets is how much better the run

1221
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 6: game was under Joe Brady, and I think that is

1222
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 6: going to help a little bit when they are in

1223
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 6: those heavier sets. I think they are going to have

1224
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 6: a little bit more of that run game be a

1225
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 6: threat when they do have two tight ends on the field,

1226
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 6: and that is then going to open up some things

1227
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: in the passing game. So if they can get some

1228
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 6: things where we're Knox and cad are blocking really well

1229
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 6: and they can have the run as an actual threat,

1230
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 6: I think that's where you can kind of live in

1231
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 6: that twelve personnel a little more, because if you're only

1232
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 6: doing that when the pass is a threat and you're

1233
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 6: really getting stuffed in the run because you have some

1234
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 6: of those heavier formations and the defense is still playing light,

1235
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 6: but they're able to stop the run. That's when teams

1236
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 6: really have a lot of those struggles in twelve personnel.

1237
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 6: But I think the Bills are going to have a

1238
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 6: little bit more to be able to run, especially when

1239
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: you look at, you know, the focus they had in

1240
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: some of those you know, personnel groups just the run

1241
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 6: game in general over the second half of that season.

1242
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 6: So I think Brady's going to bring that and I

1243
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 6: think they can live in twelve personnel a little more

1244
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 6: than they were able to and more successfully at least

1245
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 6: than they were at points last year.

1246
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: Well, if you set twelve personnel aside, two tight end

1247
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: sets aside, what other trends do you see maybe mushrooming

1248
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: this year.

1249
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: In the NFL?

1250
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 7: Is it?

1251
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: And I know there's some speculation about roster management with

1252
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: the new kickoff rules, what the return guy's going to

1253
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: look like, you know, the twelfth personnel certainly the too

1254
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: high safety look that everybody sees, and what are the

1255
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: what trends do you notice or think you're going to

1256
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: expand or emerge.

1257
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 6: I'm really interested to actually see how much more pistol

1258
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 6: is going to be run in the NFL this year.

1259
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 6: I think that's something where we're we're finding teams when

1260
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 6: they're kind of trying to marry some of their run

1261
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 6: game and the pass game. They're kind of struggling to

1262
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 6: mix their under center runs and their shotgun passing. And

1263
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 6: we've I think we've seen a couple of teams this year,

1264
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 6: especially the Rams in the second half of the year,

1265
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: really fix their offense and really just kind of reworked

1266
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 6: their offense into running a lot more pistol, So they

1267
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 6: kind of are marrying a little bit of the under

1268
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 6: center runs and the shotgun passing in the same formation.

1269
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 6: And I think we're gonna kind of see that spread

1270
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 6: a little bit more across the league. There's been a

1271
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 6: ton of teams that were able to do that. I think,

1272
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 6: you know, Baltimore with Lamar Jackson's been doing that. You

1273
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 6: see it with some mobile quarterbacks too. I think Josh

1274
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: Allen could potentially, you know, be one of those guys.

1275
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 6: So I wouldn't be surprised to see just the pistol

1276
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 6: offense and some of the expansive things you can do

1277
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 6: in that way to have some of those you know,

1278
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 6: up the middle type of runs like the Rams did

1279
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 6: last year that I know the Rams used it a

1280
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 6: lot in quick game last year. I know Seattle did

1281
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 6: it a lot last year also, and now that offensive

1282
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: coordinator is in Chicago with Caleb Williams, it wouldn't be

1283
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 6: surprised to see them, you know, run pistol a little more,

1284
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 6: just kind of you know, get a little bit of

1285
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 6: that the under center and shotgun at the same time.

1286
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 6: And I think that just kind of gives you a

1287
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 6: little more deception on what you can do in some

1288
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 6: of those places. So I wouldn't be surprised if that

1289
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 6: was one of the bigger trends on offense this year.

1290
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills saw Miami use pistol a decent amount.

1291
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 3: They put a chan back there and it doesn't matter

1292
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: if he's lining up directly behind the quarterback.

1293
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: He can get to the edge in a hiccup. So

1294
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we see more of that from Miami.

1295
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: Last one from me, Dan the Bills, we were kind

1296
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: of surprised to see this. We knew they were going

1297
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: to get an extra ten million dollars in cap space

1298
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: after June first, via the release of Trudavius White. He

1299
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: created some more cap room. We thought that was going

1300
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: to be used mainly to sign their draft class. But

1301
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Speaker 3: I looked at the NFLPA report on cap room and

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Speaker 3: the Bills have eleven point two in cap space.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know they like to carry about five or six

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Speaker 3: for emergency, you know, injuries, so they can sign people

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Speaker 3: off the street and add players to the roster like that,

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Speaker 3: But that's more than they usually carry. I'm wondering if

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Speaker 3: there's you know, a late signing here in the summer,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe at the cornerback position. You know Stefan

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Speaker 3: Gilmore still sitting out there, started his career with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Is that guy an option? Fabe Moreau? You know, Darryl Worley,

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Speaker 2: chand In Sullivan.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the cornerback market that's still

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Speaker 3: out there and could you see that being a possibility?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, And I think you've kind of seen over

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Speaker 6: the past couple of year. You can never really have

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Speaker 6: enough corners. That's probably one of the positions where as

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Speaker 6: long as you're loading up with depth, you're you're not

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Speaker 6: doing anything wrong, So you can never have too many

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Speaker 6: of those players. I love the Gilmore fit. I know

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Speaker 6: at one point during the off season, I was kind

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Speaker 6: of writing, you know, best fits for some of the

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Speaker 6: remaining free agents, and I did have a Gilmour there.

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Speaker 6: I think he could be you know, he won that

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Speaker 6: veteran presence in a you know, now very young secondary,

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Speaker 6: especially with the corners. I think he would be the

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Speaker 6: type of guy who can still get the turnovers. Might

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Speaker 6: not be that, you know that he's not the twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 6: you know, defensive Player of the Year version of himself anymore,

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Speaker 6: but I think just you just have to not really

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Speaker 6: get beat all that often at corner now, just don't

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Speaker 6: be that weak link in the area, and he certainly

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Speaker 6: still has that ability. So I would see him as

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Speaker 6: a potential there. And then if you're you know, looking

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Speaker 6: at safety, Justin Simmons is still sitting out there. Which

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Speaker 6: I know that there haven't been a lot of safeties,

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Speaker 6: you know, getting paid this offseason. And I also, you know,

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Speaker 6: wrote some thirty thirteen dous the safeties who are getting

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 6: paid are the guys who really just do it all,

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Speaker 6: you know, kind of the the Antoine Winfields of the world,

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01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 6: and Simmons isn't quite that anymore. But in the way

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Speaker 6: the Bills want to play defense, like Justin Simmons is

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 6: a guy who can really fit, can play that too high,

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Speaker 6: can can rotate, can be one of those interchangeable guys

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01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 6: where you can have, you know, the shell look one

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 6: way and the post snap rotation is going to be

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Speaker 6: something completely different. I think he's still playing at a

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01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: high level and as this point, he's not going to

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 6: cost a lot, and I think that would be something

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Speaker 6: where the Bills could definitely fortify kind of the back

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Speaker 6: end of that secondary too. So you know, any veteran

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Speaker 6: option I think in that secondary is probably gonna help

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Speaker 6: Buffalo at this point.

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Speaker 1: Dan, good stuff. Thanks for spending some time with us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Dan Pezuda, NFL writer for the thirty

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Speaker 3: third team. We'll take a break here, be back with more,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and topic on the

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Speaker 3: table today. What part of this Bill's twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: team do you think deserves more attention.

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Speaker 2: We're going to spin it over to the Tweets sheet now.

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Speaker 3: Which is brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 3: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and Kowala

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Speaker 3: Bear Khan says our old line Josh. Taking the least

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01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: amount of sacks this season will death definitely help moving forward.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember where they were in sacks allowed

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Speaker 3: last year. I think they were pretty favorably ranked. I

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Speaker 3: want to say, like top ten, you know, and that's

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Speaker 3: with a quarterback who has his share of off script plays,

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Speaker 3: so that you know that's saying something. But again, as

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Speaker 3: we were saying in the first hour, I think the

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Speaker 3: offensive line might be the thing that carries this group

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Speaker 3: in the early stages of the season because, just like

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Speaker 3: our guest was saying Dan Pezua in the last segment,

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Speaker 3: you know, based on how last season ended, they can

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Speaker 3: run the ball. So if things are going a little

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Speaker 3: sideways in the passing game, you know, they can lean

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Speaker 3: on the run game and gain traction there to at

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Speaker 3: least maybe get them through a game or close out

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Speaker 3: a win tight game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the offense is gonna hesitate it all.

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: I think get out of the gate fast. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna because this offensive line, the continuity that they

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Speaker 1: have returning and the guys on the outside let me

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Speaker 1: give you an idea. Well, I think they'll assimilate really

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Speaker 1: quickly because here's how it works. During the regular season,

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Speaker 1: they're always tinkering with what the guys do outside the

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: protection schemes and or because it's a math problem. If

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Speaker 1: you got five guys blocking or six guys blocking, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a hat on a hat, and you're gonna

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: have keys for guys to check one and then go

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Speaker 1: to the other. They're gonna have that all covered up,

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't change throughout the season. They may add

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Speaker 1: one or wrinkles to here, but when the protections are set,

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Speaker 1: all you gotta do is pick when they say, hey,

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01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: that's the mic, that's the mic. If anything happens, they

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: get a hat on a hat, they're good. So that

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: stuff never changes throughout the season. On the outside, the receivers,

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: the concepts, the route combinations, the timing, who's lined up where,

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: that's all changing all the time. So the offensive skill positions,

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: the receivers, the running backs, the tight ends.

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Speaker 2: They're used to that that's what they do.

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: They say, this time, I'm gonna line up outside the

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Speaker 1: tight end and I'm gonna be on the boundary or

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Speaker 1: on the near side or on the short side of

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Speaker 1: the field. I'm gonna be doing this, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do this, and then the next play, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing something completely different inside the other wide receive, you

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff. So they're used to that.

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Speaker 1: I think the skill position players are gonna pick up

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Speaker 1: on that quick. That's gonna get assimilated quick because that's

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Speaker 1: what they do week to week to week to week

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Speaker 1: wherever they've played, even at the highest levels of college football,

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Speaker 1: they do that. So this offense is gonna hum and

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is gonna be the engine of it

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be able to pass, protect, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to pull, and they're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to run block. So Joe Brady, I mean, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the system that gets it done. Everything else will

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Speaker 1: fall into place. That's why I'm with these wide outs.

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Speaker 2: They got a.

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Speaker 1: Ton they got a room full of physical talent, a

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Speaker 1: room full. All you got to do is get it

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: pointed in the right direction and give these guys a chance,

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: each of them to do what they do best. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. We had Dan Pezuda just now

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Speaker 1: on the on the show and he'll tell you there's

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Speaker 1: a lot there's like three guys on the bills right

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: now that could throw.

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Speaker 2: In the slot and keep him there all year.

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Speaker 1: Shakir, Samuel, you know, is Abella and you name it.

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Speaker 1: Because for a lot of athletes, particularly I'm a finger

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Speaker 1: quotes normal size athletes, they've never had the ability to

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: dominate a guy physically, so they figure it out, right,

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: which is what the slot position is.

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Speaker 2: You figure out. That's why Stevie Johnson was so great.

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Speaker 2: He's figured it out.

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01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: He never ran the route called, but he was in

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time in the timing

1443
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: of the play. He'd run the opposite of the route

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: called and still get to the same spot and fits.

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, Fitz would say, oh, yeah, there's supposed to

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01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: be there, and there he's gonna be there, so I'm

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna throw it, and they connected like that.

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Speaker 2: Slot guys figure it out.

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Speaker 1: That's why slot guys are more normal sized athletes, because

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: they've had to figure it out their entire career. X guys,

1451
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: the guys out at X, they've never had to figure

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 1: anything out. I'm just gonna beat you because I'm bigger,

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm stronger, faster, and more coordinator than you. That's the difference.

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: So it doesn't surprise me if the Bills have a

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: ton of guys who could play the slot on Coleman

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01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 1: can move down play the slot, because that's it's a

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Speaker 1: you know, guys figured out. The smart guys, I say,

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: the smart guys, the smart guys that is that's their game.

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Speaker 1: They got out smart because they can't physically beat you.

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Speaker 1: Those are the slot guys. That's why they that's why

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Speaker 1: they look like me. We can't do it with physicality.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do it with your brain and in the slot.

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: And that's why you know you always talk about because

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: of your brain, you can think like the quarterback thinks.

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: And they love those guys because they're always right where

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks trust them. They trust them. So all of

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: that's in the mix. And I think that's what this

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01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: offense is going to look like. You got a lot

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: of smart guys who can get down inside, get open,

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Speaker 1: work the offense, and they're gonna assimilate really quickly. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna assimilate really quickly.

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Speaker 3: Mason on the tweets sheet says the linebackers Matt and

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Speaker 3: Terrell are the best duo in the league.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. Go Bills.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Steve. The other day, I went back

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Speaker 3: and I looked at the first four games of the season, Okay,

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Speaker 3: and let's forget like the Bills were lumping people up

1478
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 3: those first few weeks. After the loss to the Jets

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: in overtime, they lumped up the Raiders here at home,

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: lumped up Washington on the road, and then came home

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: and lumped up the Dolphins forty eight to twenty. And

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01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: their defense was a big part of it, because going

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: into that Dolphins game in Week four, they were leading

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: the league in takeaways and points off takeaways. And like

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 3: I said, they were a number two scoring team in

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Speaker 3: the league before they played Miami and then hung forty

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Speaker 3: eight on them. And Milano and Bernard were a dynamic duo. Yeah,

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 3: and then teams couldn't get away from And then the

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Speaker 3: injury happens and it totally changed, you know, the the

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Speaker 3: chemistry of that second level of the defense with Milano,

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Speaker 3: Bernard and Tarren Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You think about it. They struggled after that. After Milano's injury,

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: they strugg I mean, they beat barely beat a bad

1494
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: Giants team, fourteen to nine, and then they got beat

1495
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,480
Speaker 1: by a bad Patriots team twenty five nineteen.

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: On them had trouble finding their footing after that.

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Speaker 1: Then they won against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Then they

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: got beat by the Bengals and the Broncos in consecutive weeks.

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Speaker 1: And the Broncos game was the head grabbing twelve men

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Speaker 1: on the field for you know, And then they finally

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: found it and they lumped up. The Jets should have

1502
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: beaten the Philadelphia Eagles, lost in overtime, and then they

1503
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: went on the win streaked end of the season and

1504
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: beat everybody. So you're right that it took them a

1505
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: minute to find their footing after that injury. But before

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: that injury, teams were like way, I think they couldn't

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: get away from those linebacks.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people forgot like how game

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: changing those two guys were. And it wasn't just from

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 3: a coverage takeaway perspective. They were blitzing those guys through

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: the A games. Both they were using Milano in sub

1512
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 3: packages as a blitzer off the edge. He was killing quarterbacks.

1513
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 3: They were tackling people for loss that Dolphins game.

1514
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 2: People forget this. People forget this. It was back and forth.

1515
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: The first four.

1516
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: Possessions touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and then the Bills defense

1517
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: got some stops. Milano forced to fumble, Bernard had a

1518
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: fumble recovery. There was another fumble forced on Moster by

1519
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: Tarren Johnson.

1520
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: There was an interception in there too, Oh my god.

1521
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: And those guys, those three guys, Taron Johnson, Matt Malona

1522
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: to rel Bernard were all in the middle of it.

1523
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: They were the catalyst for turning that game on its

1524
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: ear and letting the Bills by the time you got

1525
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: to halftime, it was thirty one to fourteen. Yeah, after

1526
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: a fourteen to fourteen tigh Dolphins. They took over the game.

1527
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins had four fumbles, they lost one, So yeah, it

1528
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: was it was they.

1529
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game.

1530
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 3: I think we forget though, how dominant those guys are

1531
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: capable of being.

1532
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: Those two guys were so athletic and so fast. Teams

1533
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: weren't ready for their offensive linemen. They go out and

1534
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: you have this certain you know, the certain expectations you

1535
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: released from the line of scrimmage. He's trying to get

1536
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: to the second level and you have no chance to

1537
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: get the guy that you're supposed to get because he's

1538
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: outrun you or he's cut in behind you so fast.

1539
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: They really caused enormous problems for the offensive lineman at

1540
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: the second level in the blocking game. And with McDermott,

1541
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: we you know, a team struggled with McDermott because they

1542
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: changed the play call and all of that.

1543
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: They had to get a handle on.

1544
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, the kind of thing McDermott was what the

1545
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: defense was gonna look like with McDermott calling it rather

1546
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: than Leslie Fraser in years past. So there was a

1547
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: little bit of benefit to that as well. But the

1548
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: fact that both those guys down inside for the Bills

1549
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: could go sideline to sideline faster than the offense could

1550
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 1: really cause problems for those.

1551
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I remember Milano on one particular play.

1552
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: I think it was like a pitch play to a

1553
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 3: Chan to the edge, like four to three to two

1554
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: speed a Chan. Milano knife through the hole because he

1555
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: came clean. Nobody picked him up. It was a tackle

1556
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: for loss of four yards. Do you know how hard

1557
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 3: it is to tackle a Chan to begin with? Tackling

1558
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 3: four yards in the back.

1559
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fast and that and plus two and We

1560
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: saw this with We always said this about Tremaine Edmonds

1561
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: when he was a middle linebacker of the Bills. He

1562
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: was all of that athletically, but he didn't see it

1563
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: and go. He wasn't instinctive. Milano and Bernard they see

1564
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 1: it and they're already on their way and they're running

1565
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: fast and the offensive lineman just can't catch up to them.

1566
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: They can't get a piece of them. So they're coming through.

1567
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, Milana's coming through untouched. I mean that

1568
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: the offense is going, what are you?

1569
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1570
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: You know what's going on up there? And the offensive

1571
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: line we're well, listen, I can't even I can't even

1572
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: get a hand on the guy.

1573
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 2: So that it's a it's a huge boost there.

1574
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 3: It's a dacha for a loss on a chair that

1575
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: never happens. That kid averaged almost nine yards of carry

1576
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: last year.

1577
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: Yah.

1578
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: So and if Milano does come back and come back healthy,

1579
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be right back there again. And I'm

1580
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm we said it again too. The guy behind the

1581
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: third guy in if it's Dorian Williams, Oh, he's faster

1582
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: than either of them. So it's not going to get

1583
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: any better in that regard back to the.

1584
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 3: Tweet sheet, and Mannon says, I think the defensive backs

1585
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: are the one area I worry about on this team.

1586
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 3: While the players slate at the start, it seemed like

1587
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: they will be fine, one or two injuries could really

1588
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 3: wreck the day.

1589
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: Injuries can wreck any position group.

1590
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: If there's more than one there in close proximity to

1591
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: one another, that'll wreck any team's roster.

1592
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: I understand the concern there. It runs deeper now.

1593
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 3: The margin for error is less in the secondary because

1594
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 3: while you are going to groom people for starting roles

1595
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be competition and you're gonna plug guys

1596
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 3: in week one, if you lose players on the back

1597
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: end this year the way the Bills have lost players

1598
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: on the back end in each of the last two years,

1599
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: you could have a problem absolutely because who did they

1600
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: turn to when they had an injury. Well, we have

1601
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: Dane Jackson. Dan Jackson can get you through two or

1602
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: three games. He's not gonna kill you, He's not going

1603
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: to give up big plays, has a physical edge to them. Oh,

1604
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: we can bring Kyrie Elam on the field. Okay, a

1605
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 3: little green, but there's physical talent there. We're fine.

1606
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: Now you know.

1607
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: And maybe it's more true at the safety position than

1608
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 3: even at the corner position. But while there might be

1609
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: depth on the roster, it's not depth that we've seen before.

1610
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like fear of the unknown kind

1611
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: of thing. I'll say this those two.

1612
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: You have two safeties on the field, and Tredavious White,

1613
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: who's who's coming off the first full year after an

1614
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: injury in ACL And then you have mid thirties Jordan Poyer,

1615
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: mid thirties Micah Hyde. And we've said it before, and

1616
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate it because it's it's unpredictable,

1617
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: and there are guys who go against this generalization that

1618
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to make. Older guys get hurt more, and

1619
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: when they do get hurt, they don't bounce back as

1620
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: fast because of the age factor. And from twenty five

1621
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: to thirty five is more than ten years in a

1622
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: physical game like football, it's like twenty yeah.

1623
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: So it's.

1624
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: You have reasonably you can make reasonably assume that with

1625
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: a younger, more athletic secondary, the nicks and bruises of

1626
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: day to day play in the NFL are gonna have

1627
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: less of an effect on a younger faster, less worn

1628
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: on body in the secondary, so you can expect them

1629
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: maybe to stay a little healthier on a day to

1630
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: day basis because of their youth and size and all

1631
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Whereas the guys who are older, they

1632
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: may be more fragile physically, but they also put themselves

1633
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: in a better position and they anticipate better because of

1634
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: their experience, because they're smart, they're not overextending. So there's

1635
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: two sides of that coin. One is a physical plus

1636
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: because of the youth and athleticism, and the other is

1637
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: the experience and savvy and smarts of a guy who's

1638
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: played the game for a long time. Both equally desirable

1639
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: and rarely do you see him married in two things.

1640
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: So I think the Bills have every reason to believe

1641
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: they could be better in the secondary on a number

1642
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: of different in a number of different areas where they

1643
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: might be not as good in another in other areas.

1644
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: In their secondary, young physicality, availability and ability to bounce

1645
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: back shake offs minor stuff, whereas when in the other

1646
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: guys they may be out for five games, a handful

1647
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: of games, or not be able to practice during the

1648
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: week and still play on Sunday because they've been you know,

1649
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: nicked up, where as a younger guy shake that off.

1650
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is in the mix and could

1651
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: benefit the Bills in as many ways as they as

1652
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 1: there been, as as it is a detriment having older

1653
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: guys in there.

1654
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 3: Connor and Dinah are thinking the same thing here on

1655
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 3: the tweets. He so I'll combine their tweets in the

1656
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: interest of saving time special teams the new kickoff. With

1657
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: this new kickoff, it could easily turn into a game changer.

1658
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm concerned with the kick coverage. I know the Bills

1659
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 3: have potentially addressed the return aspect, but having bad prepared

1660
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: to kick the ball in play as well as stopping

1661
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 3: the returner concerns me. While while that is a valid concern,

1662
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: I think it's a concern for fans of all thirty

1663
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: two teams because nobody knows what to expect.

1664
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: Nobody knows who has an.

1665
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: Edge on how to scheme up that play to your advantage. Yet,

1666
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 3: and the proof is going to be once we actually

1667
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 3: see it. And here's the other thing, Steve, you got

1668
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 3: three preseason games to quote unquote iron out things, but

1669
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna be playing it close to the vest in

1670
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 3: the preseason. Nobody's playing their hand in the preseason there

1671
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: maybe more than anywhere else.

1672
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: Right, it's gonna look very vanilla during the preseason. I

1673
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 1: think there has been a lot of consideration going into

1674
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: the construction of the way this play looks, as to

1675
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: make as to making sure that.

1676
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: There are no.

1677
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: Holes in the bureaucracy or the way it's constructed, so

1678
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: that some team's not gonna be able to come out,

1679
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: pull out some kakamamie play and all of a sudden

1680
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: score a touchdown every time the other team kicks off.

1681
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be possible. But by

1682
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: the same token, nobody has constructed an NFL roster with

1683
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: the constraints or the considerations of this new kickoff thing

1684
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: because they've never seen it live. So you may get

1685
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: teams coming into the season thinking they've kind of got

1686
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: a wired and then get taken advantage of because the

1687
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: matchups are like, you've got big dudes up front covering

1688
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: this kick because it's going to be a much more

1689
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: close proximity play, and they get taken advantage of because

1690
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: the speed and agility of the return team or vice versa.

1691
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: You get a bunch of guys who can fly down

1692
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: the field, and it's negated by the proximity of the

1693
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: play and they get overpowered and pushed out, and all

1694
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, their average starting line is the thirty

1695
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, the other team's thirty seven yard line. Those

1696
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of things are a consideration for me. It's not

1697
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: in the guy's ability to play, but roster construction of

1698
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: what the play will look like is really tantamount to

1699
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: deciding what's going to happen on it. Matchups on special

1700
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: teams are as big a factor as they are on offense.

1701
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: Or defense, and we don't know what teams are thinking

1702
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: or how.

1703
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Much consideration they're given to which guys they keep for

1704
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: kickoff and kickoff return.

1705
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 3: And when they originally changed these rules, if you put

1706
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: it into the end zone or through the back of

1707
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 3: the end zone, the opponent was going to get it

1708
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: on the thirty five. And then they amended it and

1709
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: moved it back to the thirty. And so now I'm

1710
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: thinking that there might be some teams that just say,

1711
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 3: forget strategy right now, boot it through the back of

1712
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: the end zone. Our defense is good enough. Just give

1713
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: it to them on the thirty. So we don't have

1714
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: to worry about this. We're going to study the rest

1715
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: of the league and based on what they have, we'll

1716
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: use that as a template for our strategy. But that's

1717
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: kind of tough to pick up midway through the season.

1718
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: If you want to adopt a strategy, I mean, I

1719
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I guess you can always change

1720
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 3: your stripes as the season wears on, because somebody has

1721
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: a better idea than you do.

1722
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: The interesting part about us that last graphic we just

1723
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: saw the setup. See, for instance, what happens if there's

1724
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: a penalty that's gonna be obsessed on the kickoff and

1725
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: your kicking team gets dropped back five yards. And the

1726
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Speaker 1: way I understand it, if by the way that graphic

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Speaker 1: just told us, the landing zones and stuff don't change,

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Speaker 1: so the kicker is gonna have to kick it an

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Speaker 1: extra five yards to get it past the twenty, that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. So the setup is still gonna be

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Speaker 1: down there. The guy's just got to kick it farther right,

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Speaker 1: and which changes the dynamic. So if it doesn't land

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Speaker 1: past the twenty, you've got to it's penalty. So it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because of this unknown factor that we have but

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really interested to see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know that somebody's gonna put some imagination to you.

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Speaker 3: We are quite literally gonna be watching history in the

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Speaker 3: NFL this fall because it's brand new. Uh. Jason on

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Speaker 3: the tweets sheet says how Joe Brady and Bobby Babbage

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01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 3: will fare this season. That is something that probably does

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01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: deserve more attention because very quietly, those two men have

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 3: taken on the helm on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: We will not know probably until September or late August,

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Speaker 3: as to whether or not Babbage will be calling the plays,

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: but we know Brady will on the offensive side of

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01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: the ball. And while signs were certainly encouraging at the

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Speaker 3: end of last season, based on what Josh Allen said

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01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: the last time he addressed the media, there's a lot

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01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 3: of new things in this Buffalo offense under Joe Brady,

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01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 3: now that he's had a full off season to work

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01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 3: it and institute and implement his schemes and plans. It

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 3: sounds as though there's a fair amount of change, even

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 3: though maybe the verbiage is.

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Speaker 1: The same right And it's interesting too. Did they feel

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01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: limited in any way in years past of what they

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: could do, like, well, you just can't do this. This

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01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: We wish we could do this, but we're kind of

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: limited here. And has that changed? Forget the new rules

1759
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: and all the roster tron, but has that changed? Do

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: now with these guys we have in the room now,

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what we may be able to

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01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: put off? Now, let's try it. And that may be

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01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: some of what Josh Allen's thinking about. I don't know,

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01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: but it's pretty interesting and kind of fun to think about.

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Speaker 3: Break time for us here some final thoughts on the

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Speaker 3: tweetsheet when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 3: by a Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's.

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Speaker 2: Radio, all right.

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Speaker 3: One final thought on the tweets sheet here on One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live. In terms of part of The Bill's twenty

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: twenty four roster that needs more attention, Jack says the

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: defensive line competition. They have a lot of men who

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: can play in this league, plus some young guys with

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: talent to push that competition for depth behind big names

1775
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 3: will be great to watch it camp feels a bit

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01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 3: forgotten about. They'll keep nine, maybe ten. A few guys

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01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: will be on other rosters this year they kept ten.

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01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: Last year five n's, five DT's.

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Speaker 2: They had a good group play. They go heavy there,

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01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: they'll going heavy.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, if they think you can

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: play at the pro level, they're gonna try and find

1783
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: a way to keep you and put you on the field.

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01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to find big defensive lineman or you know,

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01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: defensive lineman period who are NFL quality. So if you

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01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: get a bunch of them, you do your best to

1787
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: hang in, hang on to them and give them a

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: chance to play and further their career. You want to

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01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: keep those guys around because they are really hard to find.

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: When you don't have them, you can't win. So and

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01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: one of the ways the Bills have tried to make

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: sure they have enough of those guys is sign them,

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01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: sign good guys, plus with the incentive they know they're

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01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna play. Even if there's eight guys active on game day,

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get half the you know you're gonna rotate

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01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: in so you guys get get some play.

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Speaker 2: And they like that.

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01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: So I'm all about the way the Bills have handled

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01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: their d line over the past handful of years.

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Speaker 2: And I like this group too.

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01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: Although there's some guys there I want to see more from.

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01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: There's also some guys I'm excited to continue to watch.

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: I hate to report this, Steve, as if we haven't

1804
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: had enough Kansas City Chiefs already with the exposure of

1805
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 3: winning three Super Bowls in five years, I think we

1806
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 3: understand why. But it looks like the Hallmark Channel and

1807
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs have teamed up to create the

1808
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: latest Christmas movie called Holiday Touchdown, a Chief's love story. Basically,

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01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 3: the lead actresses sure that her family's lifelong history is

1810
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 3: Kansas City chief superfan makes them a front runner to

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: win the team's Fan of the Year contest. The director

1812
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: of Fan Engagement is tasked with evaluating how Alana and

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01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 3: her family stack up against the other two finalists. As

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01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: the pair spends time together, it's clear there's a spark

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01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 3: between them. I'm going to stop there.

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01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: Good for them.

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01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you I've been brutally subjected

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Speaker 3: to Hallmark Channels Christmas movies and I am not happy

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01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 3: about this, especially since it involves the Chiefs. That's all

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01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 3: for us today. When we see you tomorrow, it's going

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01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 3: to be at two o'clock. We got a shortened version

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01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: because Sabers lives longer.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then

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Speaker 3: Sh