1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: We begin this hour with the border. Todd Benzman is 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: with the Center for Immigration Studies, a senior fellow. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: Todd's been on our show a number of times before. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: He does great reporting on what's really going on at 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: the US Mexico border, particularly at Ground zero, which is 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: the state of Texas. It's a tremendously large border with 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: the country of Mexico. Todd is in Austin now, but 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: of course he has been monitoring the border and doing 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: stories about what's going on, particularly with the smuggling operations 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: of the cartels. Todd, welcome back to the John and 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Ken Show. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: Good to be here. Thanks. 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell us your latest investigations apparently have something 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: to do with these sophisticated infrastructure that the cartels have 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: to collect payments from families. And one thing I just 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, this is still big business smuggling operation. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Because the more we hear about people coming in quote 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: that apply for asylum and they use an app and 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: they get permission to be in the US, and there's 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: still a lot of smuggling operations. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: Well, just a few years ago, the ICE Intelligence was 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: testifying before Congress that maybe they were earning about half 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: a billion dollars five hundred billion dollars in twenty eighteen, 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen in that era, a lot of 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: money actually, you know, five hundred million dollars a year, 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: and human smuggling their big business was dope. But now 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: or like as of twenty twenty one. By the end 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty one, they were at about thirteen billion dollars, 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: So a big booming industry, the human smuggling business. With 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: the border crisis that started up on Inauguration Day and 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: has never quit, It's only escalated continuously, and there's a 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: lot of money there. Came back from the border on Friday. 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: I was down in the fontan Roma area, if anybody 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: wants to google where that is. The towns down there 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: on the border that you never heard of. But lots 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: and lots of Central American families coming across, Hondurans and 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: Guatemalans and Salvadorans, huge numbers of them, vasally, big spike 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: in that in those categories, and I'm you know, with 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: them in the middle of the night as they're turning 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: themselves into border patrol because they get processed right into 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: the country, so you have a lot of time to 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 4: just sort of hang out with them. And I just 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: just started asking them, well, because just across in Mexico 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: right there is a CDN territory that's one of the 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: big cartel's, vicious Sprutal cartel, and nobody crosses their territory 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: without pain. And so I asked them, what'd you pay? 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: One after another after another? And they all were charged 50 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: nine thousand dollars for one parent with one kid, and 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: it would be fifteen thousand if they were, you know, 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: one parent and two kids or two parents and one kid. 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: And they kind of went up from there. 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Do they know this by the time they get them? 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: I mean, how do they get that much money to 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: get to get to that point? Do they come with 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: that much money knowing they're going to have to pay somebody? 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think Honduran's and Guatemalans are so poor that 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: they can't afford that. So all of these people that 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: I talked to told me that they had gone into 61 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: debt to the cartels, that they had paid nothing down 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: at all. They just had to give the cartels information 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: about where they live and where their families are, and 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: that they make arrangements for payment after they get to 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: the US and start working. And so you know, these 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: poor families are just kind of in hok for nine 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: thousand dollars right off the bat. One of them, a 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: couple with kids, told me that they there fee was 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand, and they managed to sell all their property 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: and everything, television, cars, everything, and they paid seventy five 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: hundred down, but they still owe seventy five hundred. They 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: plan to pay that off. Well, how does that work? 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: In a variety of ways. The cartels have representatives in 74 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: their hometowns and in their areas, and if the money 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: doesn't come, it gets wired down to the old village 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: to their relatives there, and then those relatives of the 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: foreign village pay the cartels. That's how that works for 78 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: the most part. I did. I did speak to some 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: that were going to La actually, and they were going 80 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: to work in La and they were going to pay 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: their cartel representative in La. So it does work that 82 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: way too. 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: There is a cartel. 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: There is a cartel rep in LA that collects too. 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: Huh oh, yeah, absolutely, they've got there you know, they've 86 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: got a financial service. His arm is. 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: It is it interest free or the payment that they 88 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: quote is just all that they want to collect? 89 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: Or do they do they add on any interest? 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 1: If you take this over time? 91 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's there's interest. Yeah, it takes a long time. 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 4: They're having to pay more. A lot of them were 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: kind of like unclear. They didn't seem to care what 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: it costs or anything about that. Just they just wanted 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: to get in and then they'll just worry about all 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: the rest of that stuff later. But you know, they 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: said that if I said, well what happens if you 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: don't pay? And they're like, well, I guess they could 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: kill us, you know. 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're family right back in the village. 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: Right, that's right, or maybe do something beat them up 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: or do something to appear in the US. 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys don't get around. I mean, they got 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: to take that seriously. 105 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: That's right. It's not like you can file a lawsuit 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: for unpaid debt thos guys. 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: Right, that's right. 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: You can declare bankruptcy and go to court. No, no, no, 109 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: they're going to get their money one way or another. 110 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: They're going to squeeze it out of you or your 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: family back home. This is this is terrifying me that 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: the numbers that you're sighting, and you know something else 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure you picked up on. You mentioned it in 114 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: your first report there, that they're coming now from. 115 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: All over the world. 116 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: That the pattern in the past was Mexico, Central America, 117 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: but now we're getting people from South America and the 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: other parts of the world, aren't. 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: We Well, they're they're about forty percent of everybody that 120 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 4: reaches our border now used to be like five percent, 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: Like forty percent of everybody's reaching the border from countries 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: other than Central America and Mexico. So they're coming from 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: about one hundred and sixty other places. I've met him 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: from everywhere. I've met Dagastani's, k Kastani's, Uzbka, Stanis, Afghans, Syrians, 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: I've met probably a representative from every nation on the 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: continent of Africa. Somebody was I would say, go ahead 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: and name some some countries and I'll tell you if 128 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: I've met him. They're like Burkina Faso Yep, I've met 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: Burkino fasoins or whatever they call it. 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Whatever you would call them. 131 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: Right, do you think that and you mentioned this too 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: as you were introducing this, that it started with the 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: advent of the Biden administration, that what there was a 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: call word really does go out around the world that 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: you have a much better chance of getting into the 136 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: US and staying there with this new administration. 137 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: Well, you know, remember they campaigned hard and loud and 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: long for many months on the debate stages, saying that 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: they were going to open the border, that they were 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: going to welcome in everybody, they were going to set 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: things up so that, you know, the Trump policies that 142 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: were kind of keeping people home, that they were going 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: to reverse those on the very first day. And then 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: they followed through. They just started letting everybody come in 145 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: and releasing everybody. And once they started releasing people at 146 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: the border, man, it was on. You couldn't stop it. 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: I mean, and they didn't even try to stop it. 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: So that's pretty much what happened. If you let people in, 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: then everybody will come in. 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: If you word gets out exactly right, that's right, that's right. 151 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Word gets out to other people around. I mean, there's 152 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: a network that does communicates these things because a lot 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: of people are desperate to get to the United States. 154 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Did you run into anybody who's family or anybody they 155 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: know had actually suffered the consequences of the cartels for 156 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: not paying up. 157 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: Well, I've had a lot of immigrants that claimed to 158 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: be victims of cartel abuses while they were on their 159 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: way in. Lots of stories of you know, women being raped. 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: I'd have people run up to me saying that, you know, 161 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: pointing just down the street, that cartel's right there and 162 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: they just beat us up, and you know, things like that. So, 163 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's if you're going to come into carctile 164 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: country on purpose, you know, you're taking that risk. I mean, 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: you're that's on you man, You're bringing your family in, 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: You're you're you're going to you know, take that risk. 167 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: So they they will, they will hurt you, but not 168 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: enough so that the majority just stay away because that's 169 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: bad for business. So most most immigrants just have a 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: fine time, they pay, They get pushed over, and it works. 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: They get the administration within a day or two has 172 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: them up in Chicago or New York or wherever. LA. 173 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: Lots of them go to LA and you know, everybody wins. 174 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: So that's most of it. That's for mostly what happens. 175 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: All right, Todd, thank you very much for joining me today. 176 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And good reporting as usual from the border. 177 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: Sure, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 178 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: All right. 179 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: That's the Center for Immigration Study Senior fellow Todd Benzman. 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: He's in Austin, Texas, but he has been back and 181 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: forth to the border with firsthand reports, and this one 182 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: was about the smuggling operation that the cartels have and 183 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: collecting from people trying to cross the border. It's not 184 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: so much getting them to the border from their home countries, 185 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: as Todd said, when they get near the border, they're 186 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: told you're not crossing until you make an agreement to 187 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: pay US thousands and thousands of dollars. Johnny Ken's show 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 189 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 190 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Forty around the radio from one and so four after 191 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: four o'clock John Cobelt on Demand the podcast. You know, 192 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: every once in a while, I see a piece. You know, 193 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: we've tried to keep a laser focus on reality. It's 194 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: very difficult. It's extremely difficult in this media culture. To 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: keep your eye on what's in front of your eyes, 196 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: what you can see with your eyes, because everybody is 197 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: lying to you. Everybody is trying to b su with nonsense. 198 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: And one of the things that's been excruciating for this 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: year is the inflation rate has been crazy. And then 200 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: you turn on the television and you see all these 201 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: partisan lying reporters and anchors, and partisan lying economists and 202 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: partisan lying politicians. I'm gonna sneeze, bless you. Sometimes I 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: get mad. I start sneezing. Oh, that's very strange. So 204 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: you get all these guys lying and saying, well, and 205 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: actually the inflation rate is not that bad. The inflation 206 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: rate is coming down. I really don't understand why the 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: public thinks the economy is so terrible. We have some 208 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: statistics here, yeah, I know, you have some statistics. Yeah, 209 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: you have a lot of You have a lot of 210 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: lying statistics, misleading statistics. So you're intentionally cherry picking lying, 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: misleading statistics. You know the game. It's everybody knows that 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: the game is played, and nobody believes you anymore. And 213 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: there's a guy though for Atlantic Magazine, geeltt Edelman. He 214 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: calls it the English muffin test. And this is what 215 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: we've been talking about for months. Prices in the grocery 216 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: stores have gone way up, far more than the inflation rate. 217 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: You hear all the time, because the inflation rate is 218 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: made up of many, many factors, some of which you 219 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: rarely encounter. For example, it includes the rising price of 220 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: housing or the rising price of rents. But none of 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: us buy a new apartment every day or rent a 222 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: new apartment every day. We're locked into our mortgage payment 223 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: or our lease payment, and so that stays static for 224 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: the length of the mortgage or the lease. And that 225 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: if you're buying something new compared to five years ago, yeah, 226 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: way up, And that would signal a big inflation increase. 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: But it's the day to day stuff such as food 228 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: in the grocery store. Do you know, in the the 229 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: groceries in twenty twenty two went up twelve percent. The 230 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: inflation rate wasn't six percent. It's twelve percent for groceries 231 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of categories it's even bigger than that. 232 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: So this guy was writing and he's looking at a 233 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: poll and he said, only twenty percent of the people 234 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: think the economy has gotten better over the last year. 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: And it's like, why is this. You know, the the 236 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: gross domestic product is up, you know, you know, four 237 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: to five percent on an annual basis. Unemployment is that 238 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: near record lows. Incomes are rising, they were at least 239 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: for a little while. Why are people so unhappy? And 240 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: I kept saying, because you go to the grocery store, 241 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: you go to the gas station, and the prices are 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: out of control, and even if inflation slows down, or 243 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: even if it stops, you still have the same price 244 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: increase staring at you. And that people have not adjusted 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three pricing in their heads, they have 246 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen pricing. And for this guy, he said it 247 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: was it came to the English muffins. He writd early 248 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: in the pandemic, I got in the habit of making 249 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: an egg and cheese sandwich for breakfast pretty much every day. 250 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: I remember a six pack of Thomas's English muffins costing 251 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: about three fifty the time today. He went to his 252 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: nearby Wegmans grocery store and it was five point fifty nine. 253 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: He went to the Safeway, it was five point twenty nine. 254 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: And he said, an economist would tell me that I 255 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't worry about it because I changed jobs during the 256 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: pandemic and my income has risen more than enough to 257 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: easily cover the extra two dollars a week on English muffins. 258 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: But he said, still, I can't bring myself to buy 259 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: them the price. A higher price of English muffins just 260 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: feels wrong, so I settle for cheaper inferior brands. While 261 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: waiting in Vain for the Thomas Muffins to go back 262 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: under five dollars or he goes to Target for some reason, 263 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: there's still only three forty nine there, and so he 264 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: was thinking, maybe this is why people are so pissed 265 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: off about the economy and pissed off with Biden. It's 266 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: not about these arcane unemployment numbers, GDP percentages. It's that 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you go to the grocery store. I mean, you know, 268 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: one bag of groceries, it's like fifty bucks. Have you 269 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: noticed that? 270 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 271 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: And I just get vegetables, and I'm reading him this morning, 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, okay, good, there's two guys, me and Gilot. 273 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: We both figured this out. It's going to the grocery 274 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: store and seeing the prices vegetables went way out. Oh 275 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: my god, yeah, it's terrible. No meat went way up. 276 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 277 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: And the thing is, so I go and buy a 278 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: steak at the grocery store. I can afford to buy 279 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: a steak, but after the price went way up, I 280 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: just wouldn't do it. I started buying smaller steaks, really 281 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: I did. I bought a steak like half the size 282 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: of the one I would normally get, which is enough 283 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: for me. 284 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: Anyway, I was gonna say, it's probably better for you. 285 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: But the point is is like even when you have 286 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the money, when you have a quick price increase, that 287 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: doesn't go back down. I guess it depends how you 288 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up lower middle class, and I 289 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: see prices on things that I just can't do it. 290 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: There's been a recent trend on Twitter where people will 291 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: take pictures of their groceries and they're saying, this is 292 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars worth of groceries and it's like six 293 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: seven items. Yeah, that's that's how I feel. I see 294 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the price because I don't always look at the prices 295 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: as I'm buying them off the rack, is off the shelf, 296 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: because I just want to go quickly. But I get 297 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: get to the get to the register. I see the 298 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: price and they hand me one bag and it's like, what, 299 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: that's eighty two dollars in one bag? And I didn't 300 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: get anything exotic. And so that's why the thing is, 301 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how, you know. I drive around and 302 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I listen to the cable news channels and I hear 303 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: all these debates and arguments about the economy, Joe Biden's economy. 304 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: Actually he's not getting enough credit for Biden nomics. It's like, you, moron, 305 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: it's about the price of the English muffins. And you're 306 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: not going to change people's minds. You know, you unleashed 307 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: a massive amount of massive amount of government spending. You're 308 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: giving them money away for free. So what happens if 309 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: people have lots of extra money that bids up the 310 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: price of ordinary goods and it's not going back down. 311 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of deflation? I don't think we've 312 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: never had a sustained period of deflation. Once prices go up, 313 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that's it. You know, the price English muffins is going 314 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: to be five to fifty nine for the rest of 315 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: our lives. It's not going to go back to three fifty. 316 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: And then I hear condoms school, Well, you really don't 317 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: want deflation. It's like, all right, you got an answer 318 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: for everything, don't you. And by the way, all those economists, 319 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: none of them, none of them predicted that the inflation 320 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: rate was going to shoot up as high as it did. 321 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: I didn't hear any of these geniuses predict that English 322 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: muffins were going to go to five poin fifty nine 323 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: or six back. None of them. It's amazing how many people. 324 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: They have advanced degrees, they have masters, they have doctorates, 325 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: they're on television, they write in prestigious journals, they're quoted 326 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: by politicians, they're testifying at Congress, and they are full 327 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: of crap. I mean, just universally full of crap. But 328 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: the TV stations need guests, and the newspapers and magazines 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: and news sites need somebody to write columns to fill 330 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: their stuff, and the Congress needs witnesses. So everybody just 331 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: keeps talking, talking, talking, and they have no idea what 332 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: they're saying, and they're wrong. They're always wrong. Nobody predicted this. Okay, 333 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: we've got more coming up on the John Cobelt Show. 334 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six. 335 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Forty on the air from one until four and then 336 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the 337 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: iHeart app. Well, put your food down. It looks like 338 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the California government is going to be sending treated poop 339 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: water to your your faucets, whether you like it or not. 340 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be wastewater, it's gonna be circulated, and they're 341 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: claiming it's even cleaner than regular tap water, which in 342 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: La and the regular tap water tastes pretty pretty filthy. 343 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: But now you're going to get actual filthy water. Unless 344 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: you trust the government, then maybe it's crystal clearer. I'm 345 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: sure you trust the government, equipment, the maintenance, the employees 346 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: who work in the system. Let's get Alex Stone from 347 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: ABC News explain what this is about. Let me make 348 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: you away clean fresh glass. Here there you go, John, 349 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Enjoy that drink up because welcome to California. Yeah. This 350 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: so the day today the California Waterboard. It was a 351 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: unanimous decision. They all voted for it a couple hours ago, 352 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: that wastewater can be used as drinking water, that they 353 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: can herd it around Colorado. Did it first about a 354 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: year ago they approved it. The astronauts been doing it 355 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: for a while. Even they admit they got to get 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: in the mindset that today's coffee is tomorrow's coffee as 357 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: it turns around and you drink it again, You're right. 358 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: Did they say that once they begin processing this, it 359 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: gets treated for all pathogens and viruses, that it goes 360 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: beyond what regular drinking water has been cleaned for. They 361 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: even strip it of all minerals and have to put 362 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: the minerals back into it. That they say they take 363 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: everything out before it goes to the regular water treatment plant, 364 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: so that they say it's quite clean. But the vote 365 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: today a couple hours. 366 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 7: Ago, Item has adopted the vote as unanimous and appreciate 367 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 7: everyone's just incredible work to get us his point, so 368 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 7: much more work as well. If I had a balloon drop. 369 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he says he would use a balloon drop hold 370 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: on this guy's authorizing poop border and he wants a 371 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: balloon dropt. The volt character what's his name? Oh, I 372 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: don't know, the chairman of the California Water Board. The chairman. Okay, 373 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that guy. Toilet to tap is what 374 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: it's typically known as. It's expensive to do it, so 375 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: only the bigger cities are expected to begin doing it. 376 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: San Diego looks like they're going to go first. They 377 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: have for years been working on a plant to help recycle. 378 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: They want half of their city's water to be recycled 379 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: wastewater coming out of the tap by twenty thirty five. 380 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: And so at the board meeting today, John, they said, look, 381 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: pretty much all Americans are drinking recycled wastewater already and 382 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: don't know it. That it's not advertised. You don't know 383 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: what's in that river that they're pulling water out of, 384 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: saying this. 385 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: And anyone out there on the Mississippi River, anyone out 386 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: there on the Colorado River, anywhere out there taking drinking 387 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: water downstream from a wastewater treatment plant discharge, which I 388 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 7: promise you you're all doing, is already drinking toilet to tap. 389 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: And they said, so, wherever your water comes from, it's 390 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: probably got wastewater in it anyway, whether it be the 391 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: Great Lakes or the Mississippi or the Colorado, depending on 392 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: where somebody is in the country. And that if you're 393 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: pulling out of a lake or river, that even if 394 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: there's not wastewater in it, there's all kinds of other 395 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: things that they say that they are cleaning this before 396 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: it goes to the ya. But we have ten million 397 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: people who have pooped into let's say, the La County 398 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: water system. People don't poop into the Great Lakes or 399 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: into the Mississippi River for the most part, for the 400 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: most part. All right, Yeah, the concentration of human waste 401 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: in the sewage system and these wastewater treatment plants is overwhelming. 402 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: That's that's just nonsense. Yeah, well, they jokingly admitted that 403 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: recycled wastewater. They know it goes by all kinds of names. Yeah, 404 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: some I can think of as well, but they. 405 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 7: Know, amongst with it to tap, there also some recent 406 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 7: alliterations like flush to faucet and other creative ways that 407 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 7: folks have brought this up. 408 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: So they think it's the bunny that he's given me 409 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: a glass of someone else's pooh water and he thinks 410 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: it's funny. He's got all these jokes that they did. 411 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: They sell the comedy at it today as well. But 412 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: so California is going to require that the the water 413 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: agencies will have to tell you that they're going to 414 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: begin sending cleaned wastewater to your tap. You probably won't 415 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of say in it, but they're going 416 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: to tell you that until now they've been able to 417 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: use this stuff for ice skating rinks, So don't lick 418 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: the ice skating rink irrigation, you know where they like, 419 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: they got the purple faucet things, you know, sprinklers showing 420 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: that it's recycled water man made snow up in the 421 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: ski resorts, whether it be in Tahoe or in Mammoth 422 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: or it's gonna be everywhere. Yeah, but now it'll be 423 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: able to come out of your tap getting It's gonna 424 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: be a little while, but they're allowed to do it. 425 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: But if there's a malfunction in the system, well they say, 426 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of checks and balances on this thing 427 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: that it goes through so many steps. I mean, I 428 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: guess it could be like water that we're drinking right now. 429 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: How do you know that they're actually filtering everything out 430 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: of what's coming from northern California or down the Colorado River, 431 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: depending on where one's water comes from. But did they 432 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: give you a glass? I have not tried it. There 433 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: is though in the Bay Area, in the Silicon Valley 434 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: they've got a lab set up where they do exactly 435 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: that that they bring in tours and show here's how 436 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: it works. And here is a glass of fresh water, 437 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: and you know, rink up right there and enjoy that 438 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: clean water. And it was going to volunteer for that. 439 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people do. They go and they try 440 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: it and they drink it. Pretty soon, you're going to 441 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: be volunteering for it every time you turn on your tap. No, 442 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm getting rid of my tap. I'm getting rid of 443 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: my water service. So when you have garlic the night 444 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: before and wonder why your waters? Oh no, never mind. Yeah, 445 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: that was gross, very disgusting. All right, Alex, thanks very much, 446 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI here. I'm just reading 447 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: a story on this. It's it's because they have spent 448 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: so many decades massively mismanaging the water system that they're 449 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: now trying to I guess this is a way to 450 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: force you into uh, into water conservation. Just make the water. 451 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: The concept of drinking the water is so gross and 452 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: disgusting you just stop using water. 453 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you're to be showering in this now too, right, 454 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: I guess. 455 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 6: You're gonna not be sitting in your shower on your 456 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 6: sinking bench for a long time. 457 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Any oh my shower bench. No, I'm not, No, I 458 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have to 459 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: douse myself in bleach every day. This is just so yeah, 460 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: And one of the one of the news sources here 461 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: pulls out all the hysteria. California has been through multiple 462 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: extreme droughts, the driest three year period on record. California's 463 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: normal weather is years of drought followed by several years 464 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: of monsoons like this coming week. I have looked in 465 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: detail at all the records that the state has going 466 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: back to about eighteen seventy one, especially Los Angeles, the 467 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: rainfall records. It there is kind of a pattern where 468 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: you do have frequently several years dry weather followed sometimes 469 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: by several years of very wet weather, and these things 470 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: seem to be bunched together. So there's some kind of 471 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: ultracycle out there somewhere where storms are steered into Los 472 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: Angeles and Orange County for a period of a few years, 473 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: and then they are steered well to the north of US, 474 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: for example, and they go to the Pacific Northwest, and 475 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: they go to San Francisco, it's normal. The climate change 476 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: is normal. But they're screaming so much hysteria and trying 477 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: to basically bully you, frightened into you drinking other people's 478 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: toilet water. I'm not standing for this. I would rather 479 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: dehydrate and die. I'm in in Orange County. They revolted 480 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Or is everybody so beaten down 481 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: everyone's gives up now. It's like, oh, you're gonna send 482 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: me virus. You're gonna send me viruses in bacteria? Oh good? 483 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Somebody else's viruses in bacteria even better? And I don't 484 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: care what they keep claiming. I don't believe them. They 485 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: led too many times during the pandemic. I don't automatically 486 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: believe anything. Nobody should automatically believe anything. No experts know nothing. 487 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: What am I reading here? In fact, just to that point, 488 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: let me see, I don't know if I can find 489 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: it now. Oh here we go? Daily Mail has this? Okay, 490 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: just keep this in mind. Is this the smoking gun 491 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: for the COVID lab leak? Blueprint for creating a SARS 492 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: covid virus with an altered spike protein in Wuhan was 493 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: published in twenty eighteen American and Chinese science has proposed 494 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: experimenting with spike proteins. This program was not selected for 495 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: a grant. The project did not move forward, but they 496 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: were discussing it, planning for it, trying to get funding 497 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: for it. It was a plan, and the only reason 498 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: we have this story is through Freedom of Information Act requests. 499 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: It was a plan to engineer spike proteins to infect 500 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: human seals and it would be inserted into the stars 501 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: covid backbones at the Wuhan Virology Lab December of twenty eighteen. 502 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: A year later, the Wuhan virus emerged. So I wonder 503 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: if this project was officially killed and not funded, But 504 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes it was waved through. They just didn't 505 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: want anything on the record. They didn't want to publicize it. 506 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: You know, they gave themselves plausible deniabilities, like no, no, no, 507 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: can't you see it? According to the record, we denied 508 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: funding for that. We killed that project. Well, apparently you 509 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: didn't kill the project. So pardon me for not trusting 510 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: that this poop water is going to be pure and pristine. Okay, 511 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: We've got more coming up on the John Cobelt Show. 512 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 513 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: six forty. 514 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: We've talked a lot in the last year or so. 515 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: It's become the hot new topic, getting rid of your 516 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: gas stove. The climate fanatics, of course, spent a lot 517 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: of years trying to get you out of your car. Well, 518 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: they probably hit a bump there that they can't quite 519 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: get over right now, although they're coming up with ideas 520 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: like mileage taxes, which they keep pushing. But so the 521 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: next thing that they're thinking about is the gas stove. Well, 522 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: there's an offshoot to this story, and it's going to 523 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: take us to New York City and it involves probably 524 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: one of the most treasured precious food items for New 525 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: York City people who live there and visit there, and 526 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: that's the pizza. And the war there concerns the coal 527 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: and the wood fired ovens that make the pizza. That's 528 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: what makes the pizza the best. Anybody who professionally cooks 529 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: pizza can tell you, or bakes it can tell you 530 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: it is critical that you have just the right oven 531 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: to cook the. 532 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: Dough and the ingredients. 533 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, New York City is coming after coal and wood 534 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: fired ovens, and it's got the pizza people really worked up. 535 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: The New York City Department of Environmental Protection has drafted 536 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: new rules that would order these pizza places using these 537 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: decades old baking method to slice carbon emissions by up 538 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: to seventy five percent. The statement from one of their 539 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: spokesholes Ted Timbers, is all New Yorkers deserve to breathe 540 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: healthy air, and wood and cold fired stoves are among 541 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: the largest contributors of harmful pollutants in neighborhoods with poor 542 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: air quality. Oh, they've got to be kidding me. This 543 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: is very similar to the gas stove of argument. This 544 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: common sense rule developed with restaurant and environmental justice groups. 545 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: There's the keywords. 546 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Environmental justice groups requires a professional review of whether installing 547 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: emissions controls is feasible. So the rule would require pizza 548 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: reas with ovens installed prior to May of twenty sixteen 549 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: to buy emission control devices. The owner of one Brooklyn 550 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: pizza place says he's already thrown out twenty thousand dollars 551 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: on an air filter system in anticipation of the new mandate. 552 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: Others are saying this is just too much money for 553 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: us to spend on pollution control equipment for something is. 554 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they're coming after pizza in New York City, 555 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: trying to slash carbon emissions from wood and coal fired stoves. Unbelievable. 556 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: We have some audio we're actually going to begin. I 557 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: did see this guy's gone kind of viral. It's a 558 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: conservative man who lives in New York City. It's like 559 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: being a conservative guy in San Francisco. His name is 560 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Scott Lobato. And he made the news because he took 561 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: his protest right to New York City City Hall and 562 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: he started tossing pizzas over the fence at city Hall. 563 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: And here is part of his rant. 564 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 8: The woke idiots who run the city are doing everything 565 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 8: in their power. 566 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: To destroy it. 567 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 8: We have naked men with it bouncing around all over 568 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 8: the city yesterday in public, in front of children. We 569 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 8: have the most violent, raging crime rate ever. We are 570 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 8: being invaded by illegal immigrants who are being treated way 571 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 8: better than our homeless veterans. Our teachers and first respond 572 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 8: to heroes who were fired still not compensated because they didn't. 573 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: Take the Fauci injection. 574 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 8: Our city schools produced the dumbest kids, and the woke 575 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 8: punks who run New York City are afraid of pizza. 576 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 8: The world used to respect New Yorkers as tough, ficked, stinned, 577 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 8: and gritty. Now we have becomefied. It's a damn shame. 578 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 8: You heard of the Boston Tea Party. Well, this is 579 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 8: the Boston New York. This is the New York Pizza Party. 580 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 8: Give us pizza, Well, give us death, give us pizza. 581 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 8: I'll give us debthus pizza. 582 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: We'll give us debt. 583 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: There's the chance. 584 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Give us pizza. 585 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: For Give us pizza. 586 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Can't give us death. 587 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: But he put everything in there in the revolution against 588 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: the wolf. 589 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: That's what this city keeps doing. 590 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 8: Don't have a small business, didn't have pizza. New York 591 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 8: City is nothing without pizza. 592 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: The Boston tea Party. 593 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 8: This is the New York Pizza Party now. 594 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: A city official said that under a hundred restaurants would 595 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: be impacted. A pizza restaurant here told The New York 596 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: Post that there are negotiations underway with the Department of 597 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: Environmental Protection to maybe grandfather in or exempt dozens of 598 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: coal and wood fired pizza joints from the mandate. I mean, 599 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: I went out to a pretty really good pizza place 600 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: and and you know, it's a good place that takes 601 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: it very seriously because the menu has all the different 602 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: kinds of pizza that you can can get Chicago style 603 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: or Detroit style or New York and it's different ovens 604 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: the way they do this, because it's a whole different technique. 605 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: This restaurant tour said, this is an unfed, unfunded mandate. 606 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: It's going to cost us a fortune not to mention 607 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: rooining the taste of the pizza, which could totally destroy 608 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: the product. He said, if you bleep around with the 609 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: temperature in the oven, you're going to change the taste. 610 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: That pipe, that chimney, it's that size to create the 611 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: perfect updraft, keeps the temperature perfect. It's an art as 612 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: much as a science. You take away the char the 613 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: thing that makes the pizza taste great, you kill. 614 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: The whole thing. 615 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: And for what you really think you're changing the environment 616 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: with these eight or nine pizza ovens. That's, of course 617 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: the overriding point. I mean, the madness that has infected 618 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: California has made its way to many other states, including 619 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 2: New York City, where now they're worried about emissions from 620 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: pizza ovens. 621 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: You have got to be kidding me. He's exactly right. 622 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: And again, the total emissions of California, New York together 623 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 2: is a fraction of the world's emissions. This is absolutely incredible. 624 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: One other resident said, just tell al Gore to take 625 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: one less private jet or something like that. 626 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 627 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 628 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 629 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.