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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. This this morning combat.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well, June has or as I should say,

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Speaker 3: coming to a close here in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: But MK rolls on. Hello everyone.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. I am just one half

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Speaker 3: of your hosting duo. I am from CBS Sports. I

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Speaker 3: come to you live from the capital lsis statustudents here

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Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. But I am joined by royalty.

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Speaker 3: He is the King of Connecticut. It is Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 3: my CBS Sports brethren. Good sir, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: Look? I am fired up. It's Wednesday, It's hump day.

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Speaker 2: No Jay today, every day fired up as always. Look,

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Speaker 2: you know, we shout out regularly a strong part of

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Speaker 2: We never shout out our potentially single or recently divorced

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Speaker 2: female listeners. Luke, even the Kugars need love once in

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Speaker 2: a while. So if that's your situation, MK cares, If

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Speaker 2: don't nobody else.

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Speaker 1: Care, all right, Well, there you have it if you're

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Speaker 3: Sorry, there you go. Hey, we got a lot to

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Speaker 3: get to today, BC. I think we're doing Wheel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I told myself I wasn't gonna interrupt you

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Speaker 2: today because the fans get really upset when I do that.

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Speaker 2: About forty three times a show. But they don't understand

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Speaker 2: the passion and energy inside of me. But I wanted

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Speaker 2: And people always say, well, that's great, BC, But what

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Speaker 2: helping you guys out? Uh luke. We can't give all

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Speaker 2: the details, but some shit's gonna go down the week

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Speaker 2: of July tenth, Connor puably wait three where you and

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Speaker 2: I are gonna take this ship to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna be in Vegas that weekend for

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Speaker 2: the Big Fight International Fight Week, you know you may

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Speaker 2: you may get a chance to rub bear chests with us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be some fun stuff coming your way.

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Speaker 1: He's not lying, he's not lying.

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Speaker 3: There is gonna be a clear demonstration of what CB

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I gotta remember one more time. We have

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Speaker 3: Go watch the movie The Night Comes for Us. It's

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Speaker 3: We know that Dana White said that the management of

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Speaker 2: now you're just gonna throw this out there, Luke. I

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Speaker 2: People fight their ass off in interim title bouts. They

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Speaker 2: They don't tend to do this boxing bullshit type of

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Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say with Luke, last time, hold hold

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Speaker 1: To script people. I did not.

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Speaker 3: I did not hear from anyone in Francis's camp that

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Speaker 1: But the idea that they did not.

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Speaker 3: Know what they were working with, or they didn't have

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Speaker 3: They deny that there is any situation that they didn't

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Speaker 2: It's like, Luke, look, UFC is so successful right now

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Speaker 2: it's not fair the fighters. I mean, it is one

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Speaker 2: The fact that Dustin Pourier to me is the best

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there's just one last thing on this, which is,

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Speaker 3: And hey, by the way, beating Cyril Gone would be

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do it? Why would they not just

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Speaker 3: I know what your argument is, that there should be

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Speaker 2: I want to introduce a quick fix. I've said it before.

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Speaker 2: they're your long standing champion. You put an interim title

434
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Speaker 2: at stake, you build toward the storyline of unifying the belt.

435
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: We've seen it before. Unfortunately the last four or five times,

436
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: as has happened, Luke, it just hasn't made a whole

437
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: ton of sense. Right, the champion has not been inactive.

438
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 2: But the problem for me is seeing a guy to

439
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 2: be able to go down in the history books like

440
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: Carlos Kondin at welterweight, Shane carr went at heavyweight as

441
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: interim champions. Like if that's like, I don't want to

442
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: take away that accomplishment for them in what it means

443
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: for them. But look, you and I are in some

444
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: ways UFC historians based on our job title to a

445
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: certain degree, I just don't consider them champions. So since

446
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: UFC has bastardized the idea of interim champion to essentially

447
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: make it mean this number one contender we already know.

448
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 2: We get excited when there's a good fight in the

449
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: UFC card. We go, hey, by the way, that could

450
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: be a quasi number one contender fight. That means it

451
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: means more. If UFC wants to officially make number one

452
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: contender fights number one contender fights, then take off the

453
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: interim champion label, get rid of the title belt, which

454
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 2: looks exactly like the actual title belt, by the way,

455
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: because it's not the real title. If you want to

456
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 2: introduce a green jaz like the Masters, or a ring

457
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 2: or a large sombrero, I don't even care what it is, Luke.

458
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: A gold plated athletic cup for your cock cover, Luke,

459
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't even care what it is. But something that

460
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 2: specifies that this fight is more important than others, although

461
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: it's not a title fight, because it's going to produce

462
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: the next championship contender, and if that means giving them

463
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: the right money that an interim title fight would normally give,

464
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: then everyone wins. In this case, you don't go down

465
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 2: in history as a fake champion. You go down in

466
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 2: history as I fought in a number one contenders match

467
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 2: and I want it, and I got to put on

468
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: this comfy jacket and show it off. Maybe that means

469
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: nothing to you, Luke, but the belt looks exactly like

470
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: the real belt, only it ain't real. Luke.

471
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Speaker 3: All right, so you're big into this battle between Francis

472
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Speaker 3: and his management.

473
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Speaker 1: I gotta fix Mutch.

474
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Speaker 2: You respond to what I said, motherfucker.

475
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: Oh I'd love to, but I got a computer glitch

476
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: I need to fix before the whole shit comes down.

477
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: Introduce that part of the topic.

478
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Speaker 3: And why does it matter to you? We've seen managers

479
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: beef with Dana. Isn't this we play Devil's Advocate BC.

480
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: Isn't this just another run of the mill Dana versus

481
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: some famous fighters manager?

482
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Speaker 2: I mean it might be, but it feels like Francis's

483
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: manager is coming guns blazing at a time, Luke, where

484
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: you just gave that speech about you know, the only

485
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: change is going to happen is if it comes from them.

486
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: The time is right, I mean, it's ripe right now

487
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: with fighter pace still a big topic for now, fighter

488
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: treatment as champion, right, I mean, look, the only reason

489
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Speaker 2: why Francis and Ganho is not fighting John Jones Next, Luke,

490
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: which is the fight to make? As you fix your computer?

491
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Speaker 2: And I respect that it's the fight to fricking make.

492
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: The only reason it's not happening is because UFC is

493
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: fighting with John over how much someone in his spot

494
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: should be making. They don't want to pay him that

495
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: until he comes out and wins the championship. So for

496
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 2: someone who actually is the champion and is potentially getting

497
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: treated this way, it's very important to come out guns

498
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: blazing and stand up. Let's throw meniche if we can

499
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: to that little ig conversation, it feels pretty important. Here

500
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: there's Francis's take, which makes sense. Can we zoom in here?

501
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little hard for me to read. Here

502
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: we go.

503
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: This comes as a complete shock to make an interim

504
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: title so soon. If you look at the history of

505
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: this division, it comes as a surprise. Francis is just

506
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: now returning to the States to begin training, and he

507
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: won the title three months ago. We're unsure of what

508
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: the reasoning is behind this, but we hope to get

509
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: clarity soon and figure out something with the UFC soon.

510
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they're in control of

511
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: these decisions. That is the manager of Francis. By the way,

512
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: Francis rept by CIA, a big agency.

513
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: Well Francis's manager. I don't know if we have that

514
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: actual IG convo, but he went at Dana to the

515
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: point of almost sort of oh, here it is. So,

516
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 2: Dana responds under Brett's IG post of the account from

517
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: Francis's team and says, francis Is manager is full of shit.

518
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: He knows exactly what's going on, and he isn't shocked

519
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: at all because we told him several times this was coming.

520
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: His management is incompetent, and hopefully Francis starts taking a

521
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: look at new people to help his career. That's a

522
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: pretty firm public statement to be made from the UFC president. There.

523
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: Do we then have that long response here?

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Speaker 3: It is actually Luke Okay, so let's see this so

525
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: very quickly, Dana White, Lol. Complete shock with your decision

526
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: after we said September was good for us, Complete shock

527
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: that you guys made threats after less than three months

528
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: after you were all aware, Complete shock after you knew

529
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: why Francis needed more time.

530
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: That is correct.

531
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Speaker 3: I know you're passionate, but you're trying to discredit my

532
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: integrity when you've been nothing but respect when I've been

533
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: nothing but respectful to you, hunting your entire staff speaks

534
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: more about you than it does me.

535
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even mad.

536
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm actually impressed that I've gotten your attention and competent management.

537
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: I think we've done a damn good job. I think

538
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 3: you really don't like the fact that Francis is being

539
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: represented by not only me, but an entire agency, one

540
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: of which you cannot control. Hence why you have people

541
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: trying to rep him all the time to your benefit.

542
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: I tell you what, Let's disclose everything for people to see, emails, calls, texts, everything,

543
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: deal because I'm ready to get blackballed by UFC. I'm

544
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: not defined by it, you or anyone else for that matter.

545
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: How's that sound? Sincerely Markel?

546
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Wow, sincerely your old employee. So, Luke, I mean that's

547
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: pretty I mean, would you argue, Luke that no one's

548
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: come at Dana that hard except for Connor McGregor a

549
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: year and a half ago exposing the DMS of their

550
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: actual discussions to try to show you know that his

551
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: word was true in terms of who we wanted to

552
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: fight and all that, and Brendan shop Luke, when they

553
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: had that back and forth job came guns blazing with

554
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: the Eskimo bro line and Dana took the knee and

555
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: backed off and put the arms down in that fight.

556
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: So shout out to Brendan on that one, Luke. But again,

557
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: change is not gonna happen unless these guys make these threats.

558
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: Am I wrong, Luke, make these threats to make certain

559
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: things public so that UFC cannot do bullying tactics. Again,

560
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: we don't know. We're not inside right, We're hearing both

561
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: sides of the story. But you're hearing this enough times

562
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: from fighters that it's not hard to believe them. I'd

563
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: almost be like, hey, why don't you make this shit public?

564
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: If fighters feel like they're getting bullied and that things

565
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: are getting announced without their knowledge, right, Like they agree

566
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: to a fight against somebody, and then that fighter gets

567
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: announced to be fighting somebody else, They're like, you know,

568
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: im just being used as a as a negotiation ploy here,

569
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: like what happened to Habib ahead of two of f

570
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: If this shit starts going public and we see the receipts, Luke,

571
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: I know that's a that's juicy, I know that's very

572
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, social media voyeuristic. But won't that create change?

573
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm skeptical. I mean, here's the thing, Whenever you see

574
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Dana getting mad at a manager, almost invariably not not

575
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: totally true, but usually it's because the manager is doing

576
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: a pretty good job. Like, for example, you never hear

577
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Dana say nice things about Holly Holmes manager, but BC,

578
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: you know who Holly Holmes manager is. This is a

579
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: dude that's an old school boxing manager. He doesn't give

580
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: a fuck what you think about anything. He's just gonna

581
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: do what he's gonna do. He's gonna he's gonna promote

582
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Holly's interests the best that they can be promoted, and

583
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: that's what's what it's gonna be. So because he doesn't

584
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: play ball with UFC in that way, I don't think

585
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: he wraps a ton of MMA clients anyway, maybe just her.

586
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: You know, he gets sideways with him, but that's that's

587
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 3: the job. The job of a manager is to not,

588
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, not intentionally get sideways with him. But when

589
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: shit hits the fan, you know, you're not supposed to

590
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: be on the promoter's side just to have divergent interests,

591
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: you know. I still got to say though that, like

592
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: I've seen people beef with UFC over this stuff. I

593
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: remember when Kator tried to say he was going to

594
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: retire from his contract, and there were press conferences about

595
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: what was in those contracts, and they released it publicly

596
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: and it you know, it kind of got to a

597
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: somewhat better place for Randy individually, and maybe you can

598
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: get to a somewhat better place for Francis individually. But

599
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: like you want to create change in this industry, I'm

600
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: gonna keep saying it until I'm blue in the face.

601
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: Either get a union or past the ALI Act, or

602
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: win this lawsuit. Because all this other shit everyone's doing

603
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: looks nice for Instagram, good fodder for us here on

604
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: Morning Combat. I'm not a believer that it actually results

605
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: in substantive industry wide change.

606
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: We see. I'm skeptical.

607
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't try, Luke, nothing's gonna change.

608
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: That's true.

609
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: That's true, Listen, Laying down is not the answer. But

610
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: the question is what does What is the path to meaningful,

611
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: lasting change unless you really want to, like you gotta

612
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: hammer UFC.

613
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean.

614
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't know which which which, which path

615
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: is the correct one. There's a lot of debate about

616
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: what will we be best for the industry and best

617
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: for the fighters and really keep you know, UFC in

618
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: a healthy position too. But like, I think people think

619
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: that getting mean on social media is like an actionable

620
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: form of change, and I'm I don't believe that.

621
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: I don't believe that it is.

622
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's what what is what I don't believe is

623
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: a possible as a healthy form of change is when

624
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: is when the UFC makes these public declarations and goes

625
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: against what a fighter potentially said. I mean that that

626
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: seems like a dirty tactic, Luke. So sometimes the only

627
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: way to counter a dirty tactic is by trying to

628
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: come clean. Correct.

629
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listen, if they've got emails and texts

630
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: and they feel like it's important to get that story

631
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: out there, then put them out there. But like all

632
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: these vague threats about what they're going to do and

633
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, Like.

634
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't want to see UFC continue

635
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: to go down these roads and fight the fighters these ways,

636
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: because it only it only ends in the guys should

637
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: be champions or should be fighting for championships not doing so,

638
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: And Luke, that hurts the sport and it creates sort

639
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: of in us and them, where if you don't play

640
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: ball with us. You know what I mean, we'll we'll

641
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: penalize you, but we also have you under contract, so

642
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: you ain't going nowhere. I mean that that's not a

643
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: healthy reality loop.

644
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

645
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: But if you've got it's not like that. You think like, oh,

646
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: they can't, they can't keep doing this. And I'm like, dude,

647
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: if the market is structured in such a way where

648
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: you've got the kind of power that they've got, you

649
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: absolutely can do it now. Whether or not it's a

650
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: good long term thing, because you sow so much negative

651
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: energy with your talent that they end up wanting to

652
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: sue you or get legislation passed or what you know whatever. Yeah,

653
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: that can be the argument. But I got to tell you,

654
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: like I've been around long enough, I have seen many, many,

655
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: many many iterations of this kind of a battle on

656
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: each one's a little bit unique in their own way,

657
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: and every time the UFC might do a little bit,

658
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: a little bit to like, you know, give it back

659
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: to the fight. I remember, like, you know, there was

660
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: an inexplicable pay by for Cowboy Serony and TJ. Dillashall

661
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: after that MM triple A thing, right, Okay, you know

662
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: we'll make it a little bit easier on you. But

663
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: like real change, real change, I gotta tell you, folks,

664
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: real change comes from real work, and this that ain't

665
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: real work.

666
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

667
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: I didn't see be on revenue get any bonuses after

668
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: that press conference and Luke to clothes on this. You know,

669
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: the way to fix this probably a giant bag full

670
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: of cash that won't be tracked by either the federal

671
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: or John Nash. That would be probably the way to

672
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: get around this, Luca.

673
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably so all right. Topic number two is Habib

674
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: number Gamadoff has spoken. He spoke to UFC Russia, had

675
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: a few things to say BC. We'll talk about Connor

676
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: Dustin in a bit, but he had some thoughts on retirement. Quote,

677
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: I am living the life of an ordinary person, not

678
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: the one of a professional athlete. I think living the

679
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: life of an athlete is somewhat close to being held

680
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: in a prison, because every day he has to do

681
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: the exact same thing. Train, rest, then train again, then rest.

682
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: It's like living in the same mode at the same page.

683
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: It's not slowing down. Once you slow down, you are

684
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: no longer a champion. So I have just released myself

685
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: from this prison in a way. However, he also says,

686
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: there are so many moments when I feel a lack

687
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: of competition or it's spirit. You know, there are many

688
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: things that I miss simply because I spent my entire

689
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: life doing them. No, there was not a single moment

690
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: when I had regrets or doubts about my decision. However,

691
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I missed this competition environment itself, training camps, losing weight,

692
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, because it's some sort of an addiction

693
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: and you can't get rid of it simply it simply exists.

694
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just want to enter the octagon and kick

695
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: ass fight for five rounds straight and make it really tough.

696
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: But life is life. Even if not now that at

697
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: some point in life I'd have to quit and say

698
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: it's no to the I'd have to quit and say

699
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: it's say no to the sport. Anyway, BC doesn't sound

700
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: like he necessarily enjoys every aspect of retirement. But I

701
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: don't get the feeling that he's really itching to come

702
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: back all that much.

703
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: No, I like this, This was a really honest take

704
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: from him. I mean, you could use it to kind

705
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: of fuel either side of the argument, I think, but

706
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: I think he's showing us a couple of things. One

707
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: that to be great, and I mean great, Luke, it's

708
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: stressful as all hell. I mean, you gotta be you know,

709
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: there's no days off, as people like you know in boxing,

710
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather has shown that that there's

711
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: another level if you can get to it where you

712
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: don't get fat between training camps where you are full,

713
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: you know, twenty four hours a day, three sixty five

714
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: a champion. I think it's some of that stress, Luke,

715
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: that led GSP to get out of the business and

716
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: take that long break, because it has to be stressful

717
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: to always be on with that fear in the back

718
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: of your mind that if I'm not at my absolute

719
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: very best, it could fall apart. And it could, Luke.

720
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, mma is as unforgiving as any other sport

721
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of there just being so many ways

722
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: to lose and so many ways to lose freakishly. Especially

723
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: you could dominate a fight for a long time and

724
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: lose just like that. So again, I always want to

725
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: tip the cap to anyone GSP, John Jones, Amanda Newness, Anderson,

726
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Silva Habib, guys who have been able to sustain extreme

727
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: elite level championship excellence. And I know in hindsight Kubib's

728
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: reign wasn't actually that long because it took him longer

729
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: than maybe it should have to finally get the title shot.

730
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: But to do that, Luke, I mean, so few have

731
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: done that for a reason. So I like hearing him

732
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: express what that actually means and feels like he does

733
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: feel a sense of relief from not having that anymore.

734
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: But it also seems like he's come to terms that

735
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: that itch to compete is always gonna be there. It

736
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: doesn't go away. That's why guys make ill advised decisions

737
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: and keep coming back in various forms, whether it's you know,

738
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: a real fight or an exhibition or what have you.

739
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Luke I still stand by the belief, giving his almost

740
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: supernatural level of conviction. I mean, again, who walks away

741
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: when they're pound for pound number one and at the

742
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: peak of their earning potential meeting anyone they fight, it's

743
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: a pay per view main event and you're unbeaten. Who

744
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: just walks away like that?

745
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: Right?

746
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: And then you add in the level of the promise

747
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: made to the family. I feel like if anyone can

748
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: stick by it, it's still habib, But I did like

749
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: to see this sort of honest take about the machine

750
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: right inside of him, that it needs to be fed

751
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: in some form, Luke. Maybe he can get that feeding

752
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: through coaching or promoting or whatever he's going to end

753
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: up getting into. But you better feed at Luke, or

754
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: it'll come looking for you. All right.

755
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's pretty sober take, BCEE. I think,

756
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: you know, he's grappling with the dual realities, and they

757
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: don't necessarily make sense that he would have these positions independently,

758
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: but they that's just the reality he's in, this transition

759
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: from one life to the next. If you had this

760
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: life and it's all you know, you're probably gonna hate

761
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: certain parts of it. But if it's all you know,

762
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: leaving it is actually a little bit more of an

763
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: adjustment than I think some folks realize, right, especially if

764
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: you're still thirty two and you got you know, two

765
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: thirds of your life. Maybe he left in front of

766
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: you something like that, at least half maybe, And yeah,

767
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: he's having a hard time with it. But at the

768
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: same time, I think he realizes, like to your point, Okay,

769
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: let's say I delayed it a year two years, three years,

770
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: four years, five years, I'm still to be in the

771
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: exact same position that I feel the way that I

772
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: do today, and I'll just be, you know, three or

773
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: five years down the road and God only knows what

774
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: could happen in that time, so he has to kind

775
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: of make peace with it. There was footage of him

776
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: training at AKA recently given some kid the business, so

777
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, he's still in the gym and I think

778
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: having some good good times. But for folks who are

779
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, who built on that training is about getting

780
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: ready for competition. When you do just the training, it's

781
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: not as satisfying. It's that it doesn't you know, even

782
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: you can go ten rounds with ten guys, it still

783
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: doesn't get that competitive urge settled. So he's having a

784
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: hard time with a BC. But the other thing that

785
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: I thought was kind of interesting was the quote on

786
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: Connor Dustin three and we know they're going to be

787
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: fin in July tenth.

788
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. Quote.

789
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: It's he's asked for a prediction. It's the same thing

790
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: as the previous fight USC two fifty seven. If it's

791
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: a first round finish, I'd back Connor from the second

792
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: round and further Parria wins BC.

793
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Is he right?

794
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, look, let's be really honest, whether we're

795
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: handicapping Connor versus Abbe back at two twenty nine, or

796
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Connor versus Dustin two, or Connor versus anyone, Luke, it's

797
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: sort of the same analysis. If Connor, with that rocket

798
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: left hand and that ability to find your chin in

799
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: the opening round, finds it with some level of power,

800
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: the odds tell you more often than that he can,

801
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, have a great shot at getting a first

802
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: round finish. But if we go longer than that and

803
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: stamina comes into play, wrestling comes into play, you know,

804
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: it could be another story. I think that's again a

805
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: very fair, fair and sober look at this trilogy fight

806
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: coming up, and I think it is interesting to get

807
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: his thoughts on these fights. And look, by the way,

808
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: I'm not Habib, but I don't mean to Spider Man

809
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: mem him because you can't really compare me to Hebb

810
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: too often. But I do understand Habib every time I

811
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: drive by Cumberland Farb. But I can't even get gasolar anymore.

812
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: My liver is pulsating and calling for the sweet grease

813
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: and juice and all that stuff that has blackened my organs,

814
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: but I gotta stay away. And I think he feels

815
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: the same about Mma. But Luke, one day it's gonna

816
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: be somebody else. Habibe's gonna be about thirty seven thirty eight,

817
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be somebody else who's on a run.

818
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: And Habib's gonna get that itch. I don't think he's

819
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: a scratch it, but he's gonna get that itch. And

820
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna get back in the gym, like you said, Aka,

821
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: and he's gonna go through the rounds and he's gonna

822
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: quietly think, Man, should I come back and do this?

823
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: Should I snuff out someone who thinks they're a growing legend?

824
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Should I come back one more time to take a

825
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: seat at the bar and take down some shots. He

826
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: won't do it, though, Luke, Okay, he won't do it.

827
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: He won't do it.

828
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: By the way, I think he's probably right that I'm

829
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: a little skeptical that Connor couldn't win in the second,

830
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: although I do think Connor early in the first is

831
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: probably a smart bet, or at least you know, a

832
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: decent one anyway, But there is something to be said, like, remember, dude,

833
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: he was the one Habib who thought that after the

834
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: Gateche lost, and not that this is the most controversial take,

835
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: but I remember saying after that beating that Gatechy hinted

836
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: out to Ferguson. I was a little bit worried about

837
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: Ferguson at that point because he was kind of old

838
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 3: and that was a horrific beating. He was the one

839
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: who after that was like, he'll never be the same.

840
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: And then sure enough you've had subsequent encounters where again

841
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 3: I don't think Ferguson looked altogether terrible, but he could

842
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: not muster enough to beat people who you thought maybe

843
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: he could have beaten just a couple of years ago.

844
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: And so habibm's usually got a decent eye for this

845
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: kind of a thing. I'll be curious to see what

846
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: happens for a lot of reasons on July tenth, not

847
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: least of which is was Habib's prediction true?

848
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: And my dog is going ape shit?

849
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: I love that. Hey, Luke, you know we're not getting

850
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: ahead of next week, because now, I mean, next week's

851
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna speak for itself. It's UFC two sixty four. It's

852
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: a monster fight. But that narrative is there, that hole

853
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: like man what if Connor loses this or what if

854
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: he gets stopped again. I mean, it doesn't mean that

855
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: he couldn't retool and camp and come back and get

856
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: a gamme fight and then come back and beat somebody

857
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: big and then you're like, oh, whoa, what about Connor

858
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: again for a title It's like until he dies, so

859
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: to speaks, he's not going to be dead. But this

860
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: would be a big blow, Luke, this would be I mean,

861
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: there is a double or nothing feel to Connor taking

862
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: this fight that we last felt at UFC two O

863
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: two in the Nate rematch. Right There is that feel here?

864
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.

865
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: I would say it's even worse at this point. I mean, again,

866
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: you can't just declare someone's we're over off of one loss.

867
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: But to me, if he loses to Dustin and not

868
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: let's say, you know, in a way relatively similar ish

869
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: to the first one, or I should say the second one,

870
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: the last fight. Anyway, if he loses in a way

871
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: similar to that, then you really have to reconsider, uh

872
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: that Connor's peak has passed at that point.

873
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: But just the same, Luke, could you imagine the flip

874
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: side and look, let's not forget in that second fight

875
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: earlier this year, Luke second round, he was putting it

876
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: on Dustin, right, I mean there was you know, he

877
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: was kind of walking him down with some with some

878
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: left crosses, and you're like, oh, oh okay, I mean

879
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: what if Connor stopped the best lightweight in the world

880
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: not named Habib right now? What I mean what that

881
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: could do to the whole idea of the King's back

882
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: and what that could do for commercialism of UFC and

883
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: promoting Connor.

884
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that why, that's why, that's why

885
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 3: you're that's why you're phrasing of it. It is so so good.

886
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: It's double or nothing, because if you win to the rewards,

887
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: I mean, he'll probably get a title shot, right, And

888
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: and then you beat Dustin Pario, you could say, well,

889
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: you know, did you have enough wins to merit getting

890
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: a title shot? Well in that sense, no, but we

891
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: know he's got enough popularity. And then on the meritocratic side,

892
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: if you beat Dustin Poorier, you're pretty fucking good, so

893
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: you would just get a title shot at that point.

894
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: But if you don't, you lost twice to a rival,

895
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: you had three chances to beat him, you'll only con

896
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: beat him the first time six years later. The game

897
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: at that point, if he loses, would have passed him by.

898
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: It's a huge, hugely consequential about for Dustin two, but

899
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: especially for a guy like Connor. Still, we have a

900
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: whole week to get into that, all right. BC topic

901
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: number three Faraza hobby, which, by the way, shouts to

902
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: Faraz he sent me this years ago.

903
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: You ever seen one of these? BC? No, this is called.

904
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 2: Are is that like a motorized anal plugger?

905
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's a motorized anal plugger. Yes, that's

906
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: what it is. No, Faraza hobby.

907
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: This is I think his company is called Tim Tam.

908
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: I got a pinch nerve in my Something is wrong

909
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: with a nerve in my right trap. So my wife's

910
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: been using these ready on my back to loosen up

911
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: the muscle.

912
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: You put it on your arms, Oh god?

913
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Using that? Yeah? Wow? I mean maybe you travel, maybe

914
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: when you're gone on those long nights, Luke, that thing

915
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: looks dangerous. I got to pinch nerve in my crotch.

916
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: You think that'll fix that? Luke?

917
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, wow, I mean I'm impressed.

918
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Forty five minutes before referring things back to your genitals,

919
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: impressive record. You're really trying to like limit.

920
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: You know, the first world of improv, right, It's like,

921
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: don't don't shut your your your teammate down, don't don't

922
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: just drop a deuce right on the guy's face.

923
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: He's terrible. These are terrible thirteen year old jokes.

924
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: You could have that into something good there.

925
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: I'm sure for Oz this is he sent me one

926
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: of these years ago. It's been a lifesaver for my

927
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: back recently. But for Oz has in the news for

928
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: another reason. He said something about Nate Diaz which I

929
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: thought was very interesting quote.

930
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: If you put him in a fight.

931
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: Talking about Nate Diaz where there is no time limit,

932
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: I think he beats ninety nine percent of fighters. You

933
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: can't sub him, you can't finish him. The guy doesn't

934
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: stop walking forward. He puts volume on you. He's the

935
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: scariest in my opinion, street fighter in MMA. I think

936
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: if you had to fight him in the street man,

937
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: you are in a fight for your life. Ain't gonna

938
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: be no judges standing you up between round or I

939
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: think he've bed referees. Uh, there's no judge to come

940
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: in and give you the win. No, No, this guy

941
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: ain't going away. I think if he had no time

942
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: limit fight with Leon Edwards, he beats Leon Edwards. And

943
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: I have tremendous admiration for Leon Edwards BC true or false,

944
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: he's the best fighter if there's no time limit.

945
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: Well's it is interesting. It's not like the first time

946
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: we haven't thought about this because Nate has talked about

947
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: this whole sort of street, you know, idea that he's

948
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: never he never lost, right, Luke Nitty has never lost

949
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: a fight. Right. They only the fight only ended in

950
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: defeat because they put rules around it in judges and rounds.

951
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: I mean you do need some of the very strong

952
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: intangibles that he still has, durability, intense stamina. Uh, just

953
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: a you know, a predestined willingness to go through hell

954
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: like he does. And you know you're you're not really

955
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: gonna submit him, which could be an out for somebody

956
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: who's skilled in that area. I don't want to say

957
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: he can't be stopped. I mean, Luke doesn't. Josh Thompson

958
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: of the Weighing In podcast on a head kick knockout

959
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: of Nathan.

960
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: Yes, he does.

961
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: I mean he was still conscious, but he was you know,

962
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: you are in a really really bad situation at that

963
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: point that I mean, you know.

964
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Some some would say I sparred better with Josh in

965
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: a podcast sense, at least than Nate did. Right, some

966
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: would say.

967
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: That, well, I'll say this, bec here's I mean my guard.

968
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: My guard was tight, Luke, it was.

969
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: I mean, tight guards aren't necessarily what you want to

970
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: be clear, open guard is, worthy offense is. But okay,

971
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: you see, let me ask you this though, what does

972
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: it mean to be no time I mean I realized

973
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: we're just playing, We're just playing, you know, uh, with

974
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: theories and ideas here, But what would it even mean

975
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: to be no time limits? So, for example, we had

976
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: a fight like this previously and Pride, but there were

977
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: some rules about it, and there was last minute changes

978
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: because the Gracy family wanted him change. But you go

979
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: back to Hoyst Gracie versus kazushisaka rab. But what they

980
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: ended up getting was unlimited rounds, but each round was

981
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. And so what I'm asking is what would

982
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: it mean to say you finished him?

983
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Now?

984
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: If you sub him and you choke him unconscious, okay,

985
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: that's out. If your arm barment he taps, okay, that's out,

986
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: do you have to literally knock him unconscious for the

987
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: fight to.

988
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: Be one in a no time limit? Bout? How does

989
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: that work?

990
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: Time? The last time we saw this, although unsanctioned, was

991
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: Kimbo Slice versus Sean Gannon in that Miami warehouse, right, Luke,

992
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: And didn't they have that rule although there were modified

993
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: rules within that as well. Didn't they have the rule

994
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: that there was a twenty count if somebody's down? Yes,

995
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: I guess if you want to get something to that degree.

996
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't really work because a fight with

997
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Nate would inevitably go to the ground. So but I mean,

998
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: is there something to that idea that if if somebody

999
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: quits their out, if somebody dies, they're out if somebody Yeah,

1000
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, this is really stupid.

1001
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: But here here's my view on this.

1002
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: No, I actually think it's worth thinking about just a

1003
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: little bit, which is this says a lot about Nate

1004
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Diaz in a good way. And I think it says

1005
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: a lot about the cult of Nate Diaz, not so

1006
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: much in a bad way, but in a way where

1007
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: they got some blind spots about this. Here's what I mean.

1008
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the good I think for Roz's analysis

1009
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: here is pretty good. Actually, like some people. I mean,

1010
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: look at Leon Edwards. Look at Leon Edwards. He is

1011
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: not a devastating finisher by virtue of the way the

1012
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: rules are set up. You have five minute rounds, you

1013
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: can do x amount of techniques, blah blah blah blah blah.

1014
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: The issue is that he has built a game that's

1015
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: better at winning rounds than Nate Diaz.

1016
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: All right, that's just a reality.

1017
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: He's got better defense, he's got better techniques, but everything

1018
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: is geared towards If I have to go the full

1019
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: five minutes, and I usually do, I will have the

1020
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: ten to nine, or we don't only get my hand

1021
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: raised or whatever. Maybe I will win that frame by contract.

1022
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: There might be other rule sets where Nate Diaz does

1023
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: a lot better and Leon.

1024
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: Edwards can't hang.

1025
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: Maybe an hour long time limit or no time limiter,

1026
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, whatever modifications you wanted to make. It might

1027
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: actually be the case that Nate Diaz does a lot better.

1028
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: I think for Oz is probably right. But here's my

1029
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: point about some of this. Diaz is fans and admirers

1030
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: love him so much, and we love Nadez on this

1031
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 3: show I mean, he is important to mix martial arts.

1032
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: He's thrilling to watch, he's an interesting character, he's a

1033
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: anti hero. He's frankly a vanguard for fighter writs and represents.

1034
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't say enough good things about na Diez.

1035
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: But there's also this longiness from his fans to find

1036
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: just enough accommodations so you can look through the keyhole

1037
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: and you can see him on the other side. If

1038
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: you take out this, and if you remove this, and

1039
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: if you extend that, and if you tailor it in

1040
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: this way, Nate does really well. But we don't do

1041
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: business like that for a lot of reasons. Fighting told

1042
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: there's no time limit. Yeah, Nate could do that, but

1043
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be able to do that for very long

1044
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: because even if he beat X and Y and Z,

1045
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: he'll have taken so much fucking damage his career it

1046
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: would be much shorter than it is right now. And honestly,

1047
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: to your point, Josh Thompson laid him out inside of

1048
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: fifteen in a way where I don't think he was

1049
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: going to have a whole lot ability to get up

1050
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: from that. So I like the idea that certain fighters

1051
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: and you see us in Jiu jitsu by the way

1052
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: I talk about all the time. Bc IBJJF, and ADCC

1053
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: for the most part, have a points based system. But

1054
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: there's a place called US Grappling, an organization called US Grappling.

1055
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: BC dude, no time limits on any of their matches.

1056
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: I've seen black belt matches go one, two, sometimes three hours.

1057
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: It's true some people do better in different timeframes. But

1058
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: to make that accommodation in the way that they're always

1059
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: trying to make accommodations for Nate, they want him to

1060
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: be something I think sometimes that he just can't be.

1061
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: But he doesn't have to be because the things he

1062
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: is are already great.

1063
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: One. I mean, maybe he could have won, you know,

1064
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: maybe he would have been great in the early UFC

1065
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: days with no rules or time limits.

1066
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke, but yes, there's no doubt.

1067
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: There's no doubt under a slightly different rule set, longer rounds,

1068
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: maybe pride rounds.

1069
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I do think.

1070
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: I do think you might see him have different kinds

1071
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: of success, But what does that matter? Don't we don't

1072
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 3: do any of those this way, So I don't know how.

1073
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Wrong it is.

1074
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Remember, like in high school, if someone thinks they're better

1075
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: than you have basketball, They're like, let's play one on one, bro,

1076
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: And then you play and you beat them. You're like, yeah,

1077
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: I showed you. Then like, who cares, I could kick

1078
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: your ass. Let's fight And it's like, oh really, that's

1079
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: the We're going to that. That's what this feels like.

1080
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: Every time it's like, oh, yeah, so what I lost?

1081
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: You know, let's fight to the death. Well no, bro, no,

1082
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: we're not gonna do that. But I got dead wronged

1083
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: in the moment. The warehouse where Kimbo and Gannon fought

1084
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: at was apparently in Rhode Island. Per our producer Mikey

1085
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: mormles So shout out to that forgotten state. Luke, my

1086
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: neighbor Rhode Island that nobody talks about or goes to

1087
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: unless they're going to the beach or they're going to

1088
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: visit those mansions in Newport.

1089
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: By the way, shouts to forget his last name.

1090
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: His first name is Evan. He's a tattoo artist out

1091
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: of Rhode Island. Off to find I'll find his name

1092
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: here in a minute.

1093
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: He does some of the best portrait work in America. Insane.

1094
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: When I ball up one day, Luke, wait, will he

1095
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: let will he tattoo me under any kind of influences

1096
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: to numb the pain.

1097
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: Luke.

1098
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: No, they a good tattoo guy unless you have a

1099
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: personal relationship with him. They're not gonna let you go

1100
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: in there. By the way, if you keep you drunk,

1101
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: you might bleed more so than No, No, they're gonna let

1102
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: you do it.

1103
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: I'll bring my own anesthesiologists, Luke, and I'll just be

1104
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: out cold for about six hours. He could work on

1105
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: me all day, all right, Luke. But yeah, I'd like

1106
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: to get some portrait work done with that guy Evan

1107
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: for Morde Island. Let's do it, Luke. Okay, I mean

1108
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: this will cost me five grand. You're not setting me

1109
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: up here, Luke. Right, there's gonna be like five grand

1110
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: to get something on my arm. Right.

1111
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: Uh, that wouldn't be crazy. It wouldn't be crazy, all right.

1112
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: Topic number four. That a whole lot to say about

1113
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: this one. Accept them a little bit.

1114
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: Sad about it, which is yon Belhovitch versus Glover to Shia,

1115
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: two of the nicest bad motherfuckers on earth. This was

1116
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: by ag fight on Sunday. Yarbolohovich's light heavyweight title bout

1117
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: against Glover is now being targeted for UFC two sixty

1118
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: seven BC in Abu Dhabi, So it's still on the books,

1119
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: but it's not gonna happen till October. By the time

1120
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 3: about occurs, BC to Share is gonna be your fucking

1121
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: age at forty two years old? Can you believe that?

1122
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: Glover to Share is forty two and beaten the fuck

1123
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: out of people? And you're forty two and the doctor's like,

1124
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: stop eating hot dogs.

1125
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, Glover. The good news is you'll fight for a

1126
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: title later this year. The bad news is you'll have

1127
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: a black liver, noble beido and three needles hanging out

1128
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: of your dick. Yeah that's great, all right, Yeah that's

1129
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: a kid. Uh yeah, Luke, not much to say here.

1130
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: You'd like to see this get done somewhat quickly, but

1131
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: you'd like to see Yerie Prohatska get in the hot

1132
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: seat soon enough, Luke, Right, but I guess we gotta

1133
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: delay that a little more.

1134
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: I'll say this, what's your what's real quickly before we

1135
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 3: just move on super fast? What is your early sense

1136
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: about who wins there? And I get you reserve the

1137
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: right to change your mind because I'm asking you on

1138
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: the fly. You haven't really fully thought about it. Initial

1139
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: instinct is what.

1140
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: The Jan Blohovich has shown us in this career resurgence,

1141
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: two major fights the Rays win the title defense against

1142
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: at Asania. That he's smarter than we thought he was, Luke.

1143
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more complete, certainly has a knockout power.

1144
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: It's not like I didn't watch his rise, Luke. I

1145
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: just didn't see this until now. It's all come together

1146
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: in the right time. Glover Tashia. Just getting to this

1147
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: point a second title opportunity at this age is an

1148
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 2: impressive accomplishment. He's great on the ground, but it's not

1149
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: like Jan's gonna get handled on the ground. And I

1150
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: think that's the difference, Luke. I think Blohovich has too

1151
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: much for this version of Glover on the feet, and

1152
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: that will be your decider when he wins. A somewhat

1153
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: unexciting decision, Jan Blohoics survive in advance, get Prohotsko up

1154
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. Let's play light heavyweight bingo. Let's find

1155
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: out what we have in this absolute psychopath Luke with

1156
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: that dong hanging out on the top of his head,

1157
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: what do you call that, Luke? What do you call that?

1158
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: Isn't it. Didn't he call it like an antenna.

1159
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: Antenna that's right. That guy's fantastic. I love that man.

1160
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll just say this, I mostly agree with your analysis.

1161
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: I'd be a little bit different. I think Belhovich is

1162
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: really good backing up when he's striking. I think he's

1163
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: very good at and you know, Glover's gonna come forward,

1164
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: Glover by the way, getting rattled against Anthony Smith and

1165
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: other guys like dude, you know, Blahovich might put his

1166
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: lights out pretty quickly if that kind of thing happens.

1167
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I do.

1168
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: Think Bellhovich is good on the ground, but I think

1169
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: Tashera is very good on the ground. Plus the big

1170
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: difference is he loves to pass, has good subs, and

1171
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: has very good ground and pound. So I think, you know,

1172
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: depending where the fight takes place, if it's mostly on

1173
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: the ground, I think to scherf smokes them. By contrast,

1174
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: I don't see how to share it, even with as

1175
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 3: good of a jab as he does. I don't see

1176
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 3: how he beats him on the feet. It's gonna be

1177
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: a really really interesting contest. And then, last but not least,

1178
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: b s this is a fi I mean, I gotta

1179
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: hand this over to you because you put this on

1180
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: my radar. This was supposed to be on Showtime on

1181
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: August fourteenth, I believe, but it's now off. No Nito

1182
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: de Naire, the good friend and training partner of UFC

1183
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: flyweight champion Brandon Moreno, was supposed to fight in an

1184
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: all Filipino bantamweight clash against John Reel Casimiro. Casimiro last

1185
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: fought on that Charlo doubleheader. But the fight is off BC.

1186
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: And not only is it off, Nonito donaire is absolutely

1187
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: butchering this guy in the media with some of the

1188
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 3: things he's saying.

1189
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: What is he saying? BC? And more importantly, why is

1190
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: he saying it? All?

1191
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: Right, let's set the table properly. This originally was gonna

1192
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: be Girmo Riggindau challenging Casimiro for his title at one

1193
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen pounds. Showtime in the PBC made a

1194
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: very interesting decision in which Rigo agreed with Riggandau was like, Okay, fine,

1195
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: I'll step aside. I'll still fight on the card, but

1196
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: we'll let Nonino d' naire, who's fresh off on Showtime

1197
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: that knockout of Nordinu Bali to win back a title

1198
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: at one eighteen to basically have a a like a

1199
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: all action all Filipino war with Casamiro for two of

1200
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: the four belts at one eighteen. The other two are

1201
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: in Naua, a new AA the Monsters hands, Luke, and

1202
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: this would have set us up for potentially another undisputed

1203
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: champion at one eighteen. We had a couple of hiccups

1204
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: on the road to their most importantly Casamero's team not

1205
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: sending in the paperwork in time to do VADA the

1206
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: voluntary anti drug testing. And the really reason why in

1207
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: this case that's super important, Luke, is you might not

1208
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: remember Donair was the first fighter ten years ago when

1209
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: VADA launched, who said, yes, I want a clean sport.

1210
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: I will agree to do twenty four to seven three

1211
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: sixty five all year, no matter what you know, test me,

1212
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: I'm clean. So basically, Casiermero's team did not send the

1213
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: paperwork in time. Donair called the fight off a week ago.

1214
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Casamero's team in the next you know, twelve hours, sent

1215
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 2: in the paperwork. We seemed all good to go. Since then, Luke,

1216
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: here's what happened. Now we know Donair's wife, Rachel, is

1217
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: also his trainer and manager at this portion of his career,

1218
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 2: and Casamero's team reportedly put out a meme online which

1219
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: essentially to you know, to cut through the chase here,

1220
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: Luke implied that Nonedo's wife should suck a D. I

1221
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: mean that's really what it said.

1222
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

1223
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this this incited Nonedo rightfully so to the level

1224
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: Luke that he did a video Minich if we can

1225
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: throw to it. This is a video Nondo? Did I

1226
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: think it's like an Instagram live or something with a

1227
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: member of Casamiro's team. Can we throw to this quickly?

1228
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: No? Oh no, you're telling my wife to suck some

1229
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: fucking dused it?

1230
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: I say something?

1231
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: Let's talk, didn't inspect cam So, I mean, I know

1232
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: you're emotional now, but a being along Partney.

1233
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: Champ, Jam Champ, I know your emotional or not say something, motherfucker?

1234
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: So Luke, back up, back up. Do we know what

1235
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: they were saying in Tagalag I.

1236
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: Had rap Bartholomew translated. It was basically the same things

1237
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: they were saying in English, almost like come on, say

1238
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: some shit, you know, talk some shit whatever, brother, stand

1239
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: up for it. So last night, Donito d'nair. By the way,

1240
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, remember that thing that we used to tweet out,

1241
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: which was a link to a longer tweet? What was

1242
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: it called twit something?

1243
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he quit longer or something.

1244
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, people haven't used that in like seven years. With

1245
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: shout out to Donair. And maybe he's got a flip

1246
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: phone too. By the way, I love Nonedo. I'm just kidding.

1247
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: So he put out a long message that said, Luke,

1248
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: because largely of the misogyny shown by Casamero and his team,

1249
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: and because that they are so against bullying, and because

1250
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: of course the whole Voded situation pissed them off, Donair

1251
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: has pulled out of this fight officially one Now, I

1252
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: did reach out to our brethren here at showtime to

1253
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 2: sort of get an official statement on what's gonna happen next.

1254
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: They're in the process, Luke of trying to figure that out.

1255
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: So what that could mean is maybe Riggandal comes back

1256
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: into the main event against Casimir, which would not be

1257
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: the end of the world. Maybe they find a different

1258
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: opponent for Casimiro. Hey, maybe they found a different opponent

1259
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: for Donair. That's all up in the air. But Luke,

1260
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: the crux of this, at least in terms of us

1261
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: talking about it, I don't know if Donair did the

1262
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: right thing.

1263
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: Luke.

1264
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Combat sports is. As the great Birch Sugar,

1265
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: the late boxing historian and writer, has always said, is

1266
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: you know boxing is the red light district of sports.

1267
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: I think we can agree that that covers all of

1268
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: combat sports. We're fighting at the end of the day.

1269
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Do you know what fuels fighting, Luke? Attention? Do you

1270
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: know how you get attention for a fight? To create

1271
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: the illusion? And sometimes it's not an illusion that two

1272
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: men hate each other and they're gonna settle it in

1273
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: the ring talking some shit, Luke. Okay, I'm not here

1274
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: to tell you that the world should be built upon

1275
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: a structure where one man can tell another man's wife

1276
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: to suck a d I'm not here to tell you that,

1277
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: just like I'm not here to tell you that we've

1278
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: all taken part in some form of hazing. But I

1279
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: don't want to live in a world where like bullying

1280
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: is a thing. No, not at all, Luke. But this

1281
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: is still the fight game. Bro. Can we talk shit

1282
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: about each other? We're gonna settle it in the ring.

1283
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: Shouldn't this motivate Donaor to get in the ring against

1284
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: his countrymen and go guns blazing and be like, see,

1285
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: I told you my wife only sucks one d right?

1286
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I shouldn't that be where we're going here? Luke.

1287
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: I respect Nonedo's principles because he is a he is

1288
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: an honorable man, a great champion, a future Hall of

1289
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: Famer and everything I love about the sport. But doesn't

1290
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: this seem like a bit of an overreach to be like,

1291
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: no one says that about my wife. I ain't fighting you, bro.

1292
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean every fighter is a little bit different, right,

1293
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: I mean Riccardo Mayorga told Dal la Hoya he was

1294
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: gonna drink his wife's breast milk, and then de la

1295
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: Joya told the media, I'm gonna make that fucker pay

1296
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: like in those words, and he did. He beat the

1297
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: He beat the fuck out of him. So like so

1298
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: for certain fighters, that is the best way to do it.

1299
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: It's like, Wow, I get to beat your ass and

1300
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: I get to be paid millions of dollars to do it.

1301
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I'm I mean, where do I sign?

1302
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: But I have seen fighters on occasion be like, dude,

1303
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: you're such a piece of shit that I don't even

1304
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: want to like. I don't want my presence to even

1305
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: grace yours. You are a fucking crumb and I and

1306
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: by the way, to be clear, uh, Donaire a champion again,

1307
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: he at least can claim that. Of course, you know,

1308
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: Kasumirro I think is one of his own. But the

1309
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: point being is, you're just I'm a Filipino hero, maybe

1310
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: not Manny Pacio, but I am what I am.

1311
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: You're not on my level. Now.

1312
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's exactly what his feeling is,

1313
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: but I have seen a little bit of both where

1314
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm happy to get paid to beat your ass, but

1315
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: also you're such trash.

1316
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: You're You're so not even on my level. You're not

1317
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: on my radar.

1318
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: You don't deserve a fight with me, you don't get

1319
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: the red panty night, so to speak. That I'm just

1320
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: gonna reject it. It looks like Donaire has taken the

1321
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 3: second of those two, which I'm with you, I would

1322
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: have rather have seen the first. I would have made

1323
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: the first one even better. But listen, man, Donaire has

1324
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: earned the right to be like I'm gonna fight who

1325
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fight, and fuck this guy. I honestly believe

1326
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: he's earned that right at this point.

1327
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I agree with that. And if this was

1328
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: any old fight him saying look, you're not gonna make

1329
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: money off of fighting me when you do this to me,

1330
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: I would respect that. But this was a unification fight

1331
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: for the chance to move forward and fight, yeah, in

1332
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: a way for all four belts. Now that this doesn't

1333
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: mean Donair can't fight in a way next anyway, and

1334
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: maybe do it for three of the four belts, but look,

1335
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: you get the point. It was. There's some sort of

1336
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: historical connotation titles at stake. And again, I'm not supporting

1337
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: misogyny at all, Luke, But if your wife's gonna be

1338
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: your manager and trainer and be a part of the

1339
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: public image, I don't know, Luke, is she off limits

1340
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: for somebody to tuck trash to in a fight sport? Like? Again,

1341
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, right, Like, you know, if this was.

1342
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: Here's how, here's how it works, she should be off limits.

1343
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: I would never say anything like that, and I know

1344
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: you wouldn't either, But just knowing how the fight game works,

1345
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 3: it's like a speed sign. Speed sign says don't go

1346
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: beast sixty five. You probably shouldn't. It's a bad fucking idea.

1347
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: You might get a ticket for it. But are people

1348
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: gonna listen to that in the fight game? Of course not.

1349
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: They're just gonna completely blow past it. That's how it

1350
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: works to me.

1351
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: All Right, Hey, he is a man of his word, Luke,

1352
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: and he drew the line in front of him and

1353
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: he stood behind it. So at the end of the day,

1354
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: you've done that a few times in your life and career, Luke,

1355
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: I've got to respect it, all.

1356
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all right, real quickly before we get to

1357
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: the uh the wheel death here BC. I just wanted

1358
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: to throw this up here because everybody and their brother

1359
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: has dm me tagged me, sent this to me, so

1360
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: we have to comment on it. We got this Deontay

1361
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: Wilder bench press video, and I gotta tell you, man,

1362
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: you know, listen, he looks to be happy. First time

1363
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: he tweeted in like a year or something, or not

1364
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: much in the past year or so.

1365
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: This is terrible.

1366
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: This is not the flex that he thinks it is

1367
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: at all.

1368
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: Look, even Zoo collection is like this form is shitty, right.

1369
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Zoo culture. Zoo culture. It's more than that.

1370
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: It's more than that, first of all, to borrow from

1371
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: infinite elegent intensity. Look at his spotters. There's more hands

1372
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: on the bar than the moss Isley CANTEENA number one.

1373
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: Number two, you're wearing gloves. Okay, you're a boxer, so

1374
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: maybe you got to protect your hands more than normal.

1375
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: I'll let it slide. And the three ten, you know

1376
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: what is? What is Deontay way about two fifteen two

1377
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: twenty somewhere around there, give or take. That's a fine

1378
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: bench for somebody, like an average person. If you're an

1379
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: average person and you weigh two twenty or so two

1380
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: fifteen and you can bench three ten, that's perfect, that's

1381
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: actually really good. But for a pro athlete to have

1382
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: the gloves your friends are are picking the weight up

1383
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: for you. It's the worst fucking bench form I've ever seen.

1384
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: And then he runs into the wall. The second he

1385
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: stands up, I'm like, dude, what are you doing here?

1386
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: Understand something? BC.

1387
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: You can say I'm being pedantic about all this, and

1388
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 3: that's fine, but there is one thing to consider here.

1389
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: Why do you have to whatever you're doing benching overhead? Pressing, deadlifting, squatting, whatever.

1390
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: That's his one rep max right VC, it's his one repmax.

1391
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 3: He could not have done another one that was RPE ten.

1392
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: There was as much as he could possibly do. In fact,

1393
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: he couldn't even do it because his friends had helped

1394
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 3: lift it. Dude, When you get to that level, that's

1395
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: when the weight gets dangerous. That is when if you

1396
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: are at your fucking limit, that is when the weight

1397
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: gets dangerous if you don't have proper technique. It's not

1398
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: just that you can't move the weight, and there is

1399
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: some form breakdown when you get to one rep max.

1400
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: But if you don't have good form, that's where you

1401
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 3: risk injury. Why is any friend of his? How close

1402
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: are you? How close is this fight less than a month?

1403
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: Why are you doing one rep benches with horrible form

1404
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: that potentially risk injury when you don't even need to.

1405
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: The carryover to boxing is actually floor pressing, where you

1406
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: just bench straight from the floor. It's just the end

1407
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: of it, and even then it doesn't really have a

1408
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: ton of carryover. That's some and that's some, dude, Like

1409
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: every part of that decision there, from the gloves to

1410
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: your friends helping you to not being a whole lot

1411
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: of weight for a professional athlete, to the form being terrible,

1412
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 3: to the risk being somewhat unnecessary, and then he ran

1413
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: into the wall. It's like, dude, what did no one

1414
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: counsel you to this being a horrible idea?

1415
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: I guess not. I guess not.

1416
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't think could Deontay listens to the counseling, Luke.

1417
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he puts people in the camp who it

1418
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: seems like we'll support him undyingly. So that's where we're

1419
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: at with that. He should have done a Gus Farrad

1420
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: and just ran headfirst into the wall in celebration.

1421
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

1422
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: That was ended badly. Yeah, and I know you won't

1423
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: get this reference, but it did remind me of old

1424
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: school WWF nineteen eighty six. Do you remember a legitimate bodybuilder,

1425
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: Ted RCD. He became a ww wrestler and they had

1426
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: that little skate where he tried to break the bench

1427
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 2: press record, Luke, he put up seven fifty five and Jesse,

1428
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: the Body of Ventura, was the spotterer, but he kind

1429
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: of helped him pick it up and Jess was like, no,

1430
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: that's only two pounds of pinky pressure. So he lifted

1431
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: seven fifty three. That guy on the right, Luke, he

1432
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: put a lot of pinky pressure in that to get

1433
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: that thing up there. That was Yeah, But who am

1434
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: I to talk, Luke? I got a black liver and

1435
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm a you know, I'm a skinny old day.

1436
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: But this is the problem.

1437
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: Like I weigh more than Deontay, But dude, like that's

1438
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not gonna say I can easily do that,

1439
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: but like I can do that for reps Man and

1440
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking nobody, Like I thought was my problem

1441
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: like this and this did not here's my thing. Everyone's like, oh,

1442
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: you can fuck it tough. No, I don't think I'm tough.

1443
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: People like, why don't you film your shit? Because here's

1444
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: how it works.

1445
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Me.

1446
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: See, if you film your.

1447
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: Shitty ass lift whoever you are, and you put it

1448
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: on the internet, you gave that moment to the internet

1449
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: to have. It's now theirs, and they're gonna do what

1450
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: they want with it, and if it's not all that great, they're.

1451
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: Gonna fucking roast you to the nth degree. I know I'm.

1452
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: Filled segments around that, Luke.

1453
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well here's what I'm saying. I know I'm

1454
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: a nothing lifter. That's why I never filmed them. I

1455
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: got nothing impressive to share.

1456
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Ever.

1457
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: I lift for my own personal sake and that's it.

1458
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: But I'm not dumb enough to put on the fucking Internet.

1459
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: I just didn't know what he was thinking, Dude. I

1460
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: was like a real I want to.

1461
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: Adult films either, Luke, I understand that a lot. All right, Luke,

1462
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: Let's get into the segment everyone is waiting for. So

1463
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: each and every Wednesday, there are certain questions that you know,

1464
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: I try to stick in the rundown. Look's like, are

1465
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: you talking about the ship? So we created a segment

1466
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: where he must talk about that shit, whatever shit I want.

1467
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: In fact, I provide ten categories. Luke gives five spins.

1468
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: These are good faith responses to decently faith questions. Although

1469
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: Luke sidebar when we do this in the studio when

1470
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: it's better. You're really getting bitchy in our pre show

1471
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: meeting saying it can only be questions, it can't be stunts,

1472
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: a new Buddy circus clomb booch. You wouldn't even our rustle,

1473
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: our camera man. What the hell's wrong with you, Luke,

1474
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: Entertainment bro.

1475
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm not a circus, bear. I'll do

1476
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: what the segment is. I won't do what the segment

1477
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: is not.

1478
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: That's how it goes.

1479
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: It's always like you know, by the way, do adult films.

1480
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: But the back door ain't open and it certainly ain't free. Luke.

1481
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get in your ass, bro, I

1482
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: just want to I mean, seriously, all right, anyway.

1483
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: This means you made this, You made this uncomfortably weird.

1484
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: When is our uh when I'll leave it at this?

1485
01:06:54,600 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: When is our uh the when we went to the

1486
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: Jersey basketball courts? When is that going to be published?

1487
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Do you know our Billy Madison academic to Cathleon. Yeah,

1488
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: we filmed the first event. I don't know. I'm told

1489
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: by Matt Sneyder, our producer, that Doc four is coming

1490
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: any day now. In that video you're talking about will

1491
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: come right after it, Luke.

1492
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happened, all right, all right.

1493
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: Here we go. This segment is called the Wheel of Death,

1494
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: the real Girth. All right, Luke. Here are your ten

1495
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: categories this week. Number one corporate text messages. Number two, utah,

1496
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: gimme three. We've got middrift firearm TATS four touchdowns in

1497
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: one game. Canadians never my friend, the State of Love

1498
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: and Trust, Liberal cage fighters, if there is such a thing,

1499
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: All Triller, no Filler, becoming one with your Indian heritage,

1500
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 2: and finally sent to Hall. Look there's some good ones

1501
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: in there today, but you get what you get. Spin

1502
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: number one, big money, big money, no wammies, no wammis,

1503
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: and stop.

1504
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: Utah, gimme three.

1505
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, a play on words from that great

1506
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: moment in the movie Point Break with Big Gary Busey.

1507
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: But this time, instead of two, we get three, Luke.

1508
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: Unlike the sport of boxing, the short history of MMA

1509
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: has produced very few legitimately memorable and transcending trilogy fights. Luke, Yes,

1510
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: we've got Edgar Maynard, Belasquez, Do Santos, Cormier, mio Chiic

1511
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: and Melendez versus Big John McCarthy's podcast partner. But Luke,

1512
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: the good news is that Connor Dustin three is right

1513
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: around the corner, as is the potential if I can

1514
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: keep willing it into existence for the Israel Ata Sonya

1515
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: Robert Whitaker rivalry to also eventually reach that level. But

1516
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: let's say you had the ability, Luke, to pick two

1517
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 2: fighters who are currently in or around the same division,

1518
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: within the same promotion, who have yet to even fight

1519
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: each other a single time, but you could manipulate the

1520
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: future to guarantee that they would sign a three fight

1521
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: deal and have a trilogy against one another, with the

1522
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: hopes that this trilogy could eclipse all the great ones

1523
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, Luke, which two fighters would you pick

1524
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: based on your preference as a fan?

1525
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: Wow, that is a great question. That is a great question, man.

1526
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: Huh boy, that's a tough one. Candidly, this is gonna

1527
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 3: sound like a fucking corporate answer, but you know how

1528
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 3: I feel personally, BC, I'm just telling the truth here.

1529
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: I honestly feel like Pitbull AJ McKee you could probably do.

1530
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we've never seen one, so it's a little

1531
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: hard to declare it. Two and three would be great,

1532
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 3: But if you're just thinking in your mind matchups that

1533
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 3: could be entertaining over a series of time. Plus you know,

1534
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil the resume review, but if

1535
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: you just look at the career of a guy Pitbull,

1536
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: even if he loses, uh, he's really built himself off

1537
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: of those moments, so like it would give you hope

1538
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 3: for a second one, and you could.

1539
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Do at they have two titles at stake like you do,

1540
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: like one at at featherweight one at lightweight.

1541
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: Oh great point, great point. Yeah, you could do that

1542
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: as well.

1543
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: So I would say I won't make that my official answer,

1544
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 3: but I would I would put that in the books

1545
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: as one that like you could look at today. But okay,

1546
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: let's look at UFC. Man, Man, what a great question

1547
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: be see what a great question? Well, they're both gone.

1548
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: You could have done Diego Sanchez govern Melendez. That's gone,

1549
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: but you could have done that one.

1550
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, no, they've already fought. These are people that have

1551
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: not fought, have not fought at all. Yes, but you

1552
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: can sign a deal that they're gonna go all the

1553
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: way to three.

1554
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, they could do.

1555
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 3: Now, are these three back to back to back or

1556
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: like you know, three over the course of like three

1557
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 3: years or something.

1558
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 2: Let's say three year deal just to fight three times

1559
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: whenever it makes sense?

1560
01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I am gonna say, let me think about this

1561
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: for a second because I want to make sure this

1562
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: is right. I'm gonna say, man, fuck, that's a tough one.

1563
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: How about this? How about.

1564
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Else? I don't know if this is the best answer.

1565
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say I'll say John Jones and Francis

1566
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: something like that.

1567
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: That's not a bad one. I'll tell you that that's

1568
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: not a bad answer because.

1569
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: I think that no matter who wins the first one,

1570
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: not that you could throw it out, but you'd have

1571
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: to at least think that the second time around would

1572
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: be a lot different. You know, there's one, there's ones

1573
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: I would want to see. It doesn't fit your question,

1574
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: but like, uh, you know what I want to see

1575
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 3: Max and Dustin mix it up two more times. I

1576
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: know that again, I know what you're saying. They have

1577
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 3: they've already thought that it doesn't count. But like that's

1578
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 3: just built to I mean, you know, perfectly situated for

1579
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: another two more fights. I guess if I could throw

1580
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 3: one more in there, let's say a lighter weight class,

1581
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna just pretend. I'm

1582
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: gonna say Cory Santage and Peter Yawn. I think that

1583
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: one has a lot of ability, over the course of

1584
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: three fights to show you something pretty special which you.

1585
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: Might bite in the BMF area and be like, okay, I.

1586
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: Thought about thought about that, Like here's the problem. You

1587
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 3: could do Connor and Jorge. But I'm a little bit

1588
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: concerned that this could be totally wrong. I'm a little

1589
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: bit concerned Jorge blows him out. In which case would

1590
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 3: you want to see it two more times?

1591
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, I'd be concerned in Ghanu. Seriously,

1592
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: Let's say you like flat lines John to the level

1593
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: where you're like, maybe John should go back to two

1594
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying, Like there's there's a

1595
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 2: lot of weird potential scenarios. Or maybe John does a

1596
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: steep a like victory against Francis the first time to

1597
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: your point where it's close, but you're like, man, he

1598
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: almost got caught. You know, nothing is though.

1599
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 3: That's the thing, Like, let's say Francis just flat lines.

1600
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm inside thirty seconds. You've seen Francis.

1601
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: Do it before.

1602
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 3: Uh, you have to think John would have a much

1603
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: different game plan the second time. And dude, John's got

1604
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: really high fight IQ. I would love to see that,

1605
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: So like, even if it's a disaster for him the

1606
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: first time, I would still want to see you know,

1607
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: a couple more times.

1608
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: Very very fair, Luke, very good answer. Let's go to

1609
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: spin number two.

1610
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: All right, give me one about BBLS. Is there a

1611
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: BBL on this one? Four touchdowns in one game, that's funny.

1612
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: Let's face it, Luke.

1613
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 4: Every ance, Yes, every average American Al Bundy, who never

1614
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 4: quite made it as a pro athlete, has that one

1615
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: athletic claim to fame that they cling to for the

1616
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: rest of their lives.

1617
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: Al Bundy, the fictional father of the ninety six I'm

1618
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: Married with Children, once scored four touchdowns in a single

1619
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 2: high school game for pol Kai. My uncle Tony Lukey

1620
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: caught the game tying touchdown and two point conversion when

1621
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 2: Naugatuck tied Antsnia in the nineteen seventy Thanksgiving game, giving

1622
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: the Greyhounds the NVL title. Luke, we have heard that

1623
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: there are pictures, there's paintings. I mean, it's like a

1624
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: family history moment, Luke. I don't even have many myself.

1625
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: But I did sack the best quarterback in eighth grade

1626
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: football at time, Master Petro, when he slipped in the

1627
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: rain and I jumped on top of him. Luke, so

1628
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: oh oh. When I was twenty seven, I ran a

1629
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: mile in five fifty six. That's not that bad, Luke. Okay,

1630
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 2: maybe I'll cling to that. But five fifty six, that's

1631
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: is good.

1632
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: That's good.

1633
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: It was a ray, it was a mile race. Yeah,

1634
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: it was all right. Enough of that, Luke. I'm sure

1635
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: even you, with very little recorded history of actually doing

1636
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 2: anything athletics save for your mathlete brain skills as a

1637
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: nerd in Old Marietta, you had to have done something

1638
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: that you cling to at some level, from little league

1639
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: to youth soccer to wreck basketball. That can serve as

1640
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: the one achievement you are most proud of, Luke, halfcourt,

1641
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: buzzer beater, first place finish in swimming, whatever you got.

1642
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: Lou looking back at your sad history as an athlete,

1643
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: what was your al Bundy moment that one day you

1644
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: will regal your grandkids with at family get togethers.

1645
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: I will regal you mean regale.

1646
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: Regale, I mean I'm from a factory town. We have

1647
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: different pronunciations of.

1648
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: I see, I see Okay this. First of all, you've

1649
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: had two questions here. These are fucking great. I'm very impressed.

1650
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: These are much better than last week. I had two

1651
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: moments at boot camp that I was fairly proud of.

1652
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: Uh So, I've always been the world's worst runner, which

1653
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 3: is why I'm wearing these barefoot shoes these days because

1654
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to slowly run on the forefoot. I've always

1655
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: been doing the heel strike first. And dude, I had

1656
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 3: shin splints so bad in the Marine Corps. I was

1657
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: every run was fucking just mercilessly painful for me. I

1658
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: was really really bad at it. And I remember that

1659
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 3: when I went to boot camp. It's still now with

1660
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: the case. It wasn't the case before I went. They

1661
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 3: instituted right when I got there. There's something called the crucibile,

1662
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: basically the last bo the Marine Corps boot camp is

1663
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 3: the law longest of all the services. It's thirteen weeks,

1664
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 3: and then the last week bait well second to last week.

1665
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: You spend the entire time on this like long march.

1666
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 3: It's like seventy miles, takes several days, and you don't

1667
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: sleep about an hour or two a night, very little food.

1668
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: You have to do all kinds of training activities. The

1669
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 3: third day of it, I was just fucking miserable. I'd

1670
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: slept for maybe a couple of hours, just completely covered

1671
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 3: in mosquito bites, hungry as shit.

1672
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's not just unhappy, and I Remember I had.

1673
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 3: Really really bad blisters from all of the because I

1674
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 3: was at the front end of the platoon, so I

1675
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: had to lead with pace and you know, these boots

1676
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: are terrible.

1677
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: Why do I bring this up?

1678
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: Because the blisters hurt so bad BC that I couldn't

1679
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,520
Speaker 3: run my normal average.

1680
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: Pace, which was not good.

1681
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 3: I mean maybe an eight minute mile, like not good

1682
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: at all, but it was so fucking painful that I

1683
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: was just I had to sprint to get him warm,

1684
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 3: because once they got warm, I didn't feel them anymore,

1685
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 3: at least not very badly. So I was like, man,

1686
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: fuck this shit. I'm so fucking angry, I'm so fucking pissed,

1687
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm so hungry, I'm so tired. I'm just gonna go

1688
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: as fast as I possibly can. And again, this is

1689
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 3: not an achievement by a instrutch of the imagination, but

1690
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 3: for a guy like me who ran about an eight

1691
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 3: minute mile, I finished that three mile race in eighteen minutes,

1692
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 3: So I had a six minute average over the course

1693
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: of three miles.

1694
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: That's fucking legit, Luke.

1695
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: For a Yeah, I was very very happy with that.

1696
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, and I knew I was going fast.

1697
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: Because I was passing people on my platoon. I didn't

1698
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 3: normally pass, but dude, like a little bit of anger

1699
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: and a little bit of frustration is a hell of

1700
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: an engine for average people like me.

1701
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: The other moment I had at boot Camp BC was

1702
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: we had to do.

1703
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: They got rid of boxing right before I got there,

1704
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: but they still made us do the bit American gladiators

1705
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 3: where they give you like the fucking hockey mask and

1706
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 3: then the stick you put your hands in and then

1707
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 3: you have to just fight the other guy. The first

1708
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 3: time they matched me up, they matched me up with

1709
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, this kid was frothing at the mouth.

1710
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: Okay. I was like, oh fuck, I'm about to get

1711
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: fucking wrecked.

1712
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: And I tried my best, but he fucking laid into

1713
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: me and whipped my helmet so far it came across

1714
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 3: my face and I couldn't even see. I mean, he

1715
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: he demolished me. Okay, at that same crucible, At that

1716
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: same crucible, they matched me up with him again, and dude,

1717
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I was so fucking angry and so

1718
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: tired and so pissed.

1719
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what have I got to lose?

1720
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 1: What's you gonna do.

1721
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 3: He's just gonna because it didn't hurt because of the helmet,

1722
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 3: but it was just embarrassing the way he had rearranged it.

1723
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: So this time I went in there, and dude, I

1724
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 3: just charged like braveheart over the fucking hill because what

1725
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: am I gonna do. I can't beat this guy with strategy.

1726
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 3: He's just a better athlete and he's a fucking maniac.

1727
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: And I went over there and I just jumped in

1728
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: the air and fucking slashed him. And he was so

1729
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: surprised because his first clean shot, first clean shot to.

1730
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: The head winds. And I ran over there and I

1731
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: jumped in the air and I fucking slashed him, and

1732
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: he just couldn't believe I had the gall to do

1733
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: something like that. And I won, and I fucking beat him,

1734
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: and I will never forget. I went back to my

1735
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: platoon and this is exactly what my droll instructor said

1736
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: to me. He goes, Wow, Thomas, you're actually going to

1737
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: leave here, not exactly the same piece of shit you

1738
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 1: came in. That is a quote that he said.

1739
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 3: That I'll never fucking forget. So yeah, those are my

1740
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: two Al Bundy moments.

1741
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: The guy that you took out. Is he still around?

1742
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: No idea he was in and he was in another platoon.

1743
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1744
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: I doubt it, Luke, real quick. I probably my my

1745
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: real best one is. I played in the ESPN Rec

1746
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: Basketball League in my mid thirties, and there was an

1747
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: A division which had like x D one guys like

1748
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 2: Jay Williams from Duke and the NBA's J Williams was

1749
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: in that the point guard. But I played in the

1750
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: B League, Luke, which was like washed Dad's and I

1751
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: had a twenty point twenty rebu on playoff game, Luke

1752
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: to advance to the championship. Wow. Now look the other team,

1753
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 2: center Gun followed trouble early and they didn't have any subs,

1754
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: so there were some asterisks involved, Luke. But I brought

1755
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: it that night, Okay, for that afternoon. So take ambres,

1756
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, Spin number three coming your way.

1757
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: I have to do the weird credit card swipe motion

1758
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: the State and the State of Love and Trust, all right, Ray.

1759
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 2: Pearl Jams song there, Luke. All right, This one, Luke

1760
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 2: is all about MK's future and its relationship with the

1761
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: hardcore fan who helped us build this thing. Luke, let's

1762
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 2: face it, between new merch fsachi robes, live ad reads,

1763
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: healthy livers, more boxing talk than ever before in an

1764
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: upcoming trip to Las Vegas for UFC two sixty four

1765
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,919
Speaker 2: that will for the first time be a step closer

1766
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: to the original vision that you and I had of

1767
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: what MK could one day be. Everything from the look

1768
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: and taste of this show has been rapidly changing. Yes,

1769
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 2: it's still bc LT and a bunch of dick jokes,

1770
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: Yet Luca would be hard to overlook two things as

1771
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: we continue to get crazy close to the finish line

1772
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: of the race to one hundred K subscribers. One, MK's

1773
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: growing really fast. Two a bunch of our hardcorees in

1774
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: the comments are having a hard time, Luke, adjusting to that. Now, look,

1775
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: this is no different than your favorite indie band that

1776
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: you used to watch in the local club, move up

1777
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: to the stadium show level, start writing pop songs right,

1778
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: go to the salon, get their hair colored right. In

1779
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: some ways, yes, MK is selling out, because that's what

1780
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: happens when you get successful and start to fulfill your

1781
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: dreams and goals. But in another sense, Luke MSK has

1782
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: instead also not really sold out but bought in on

1783
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: what this bright future could mean to our access, our reach,

1784
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 2: the events we cover, the shows we can produce for

1785
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: the fans. So, since your name is higher up on

1786
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: the marquee, when you have the producer credit that you

1787
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: bitchedly brag about as the more responsible and patriarch of

1788
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: this show, I wanted to give you a chance in

1789
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: this Wheel of Death question to address where the show

1790
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: is at, where it's going, and how that might affect

1791
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: our hardcore P one day one viewers who loved us

1792
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: back in the original nondescript Bomb Shelter when it was

1793
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: all MMA talk and no filter, and are now sick

1794
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: of the long intros. The ad reads the super long

1795
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 2: Wheel of Death intros to the questions. They're sick of

1796
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: the boxing talk, They're sick of me interrupting you. They're

1797
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: sick of not getting to hear the real story about

1798
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: the infamous text message and the missing show number one

1799
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: seventy one. Your question, Luke, that is in need of

1800
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: a good faith response for our core listeners as this.

1801
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: How does MK fulfill all of its goals and dreams

1802
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: without driving away the very people who helped us get here.

1803
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 3: Well, let's take a piece by piece heir on the

1804
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: ad stuff. It's like, I mean, listen, guys, I know

1805
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 3: people don't like hearing ads, especially for proucts that may

1806
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: or may not need like some of you. Listen, I

1807
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: bet more than a few of you unkempt disasters need

1808
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 3: some manscaped help.

1809
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: You know. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that.

1810
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: But maybe you don't need money line or a cash app,

1811
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 3: and maybe that the get Roman stuff is not necessarily

1812
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: for you. If it is, I hope you check it out.

1813
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: But okay, fine, But fellas we got bills to pay.

1814
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: People want to make money off this, This is just

1815
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 3: a little bit of a cost that you have to pay.

1816
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: By the way, we don't have a Patreon where we

1817
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: ask for money. You know, we're not. We don't do

1818
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: the self service thing. We're like, you know, we're one

1819
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: hundred percent independent. Which, by the way, I like that

1820
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: stuff too. But I'm just pointing out we're in a

1821
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 3: situation where you get all the content for free. We

1822
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: would hope, we would hope, and we'll try to limit it,

1823
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 3: but we don't. You got to understand some of the

1824
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 3: business side here. We have to make this a financially

1825
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 3: responsible operation for the folks involved. Otherwise they just can't continue, right,

1826
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 3: And we'd rather have some MK than no MK. So

1827
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 3: that's the first thing i'd say. The second thing I'd

1828
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: say is I wouldn't really worry about the rest. My

1829
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: only concern about the future BC is that role get

1830
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: too successful. I mean, let me explain what I mean

1831
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: by that. The podcast itself has plenty of room to grow,

1832
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: and I intend to make it grow, and I know

1833
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: you do as well. But I gotta say BC and

1834
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 3: I are a little bit like Voltron. Our powers combined

1835
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 3: are even more than I thought they would be. I

1836
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: knew partnering with BC was a good idea for any

1837
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 3: number of reasons, but it's actually been way more powerful

1838
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 3: than I had imagined. We would be two years later

1839
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 3: to the point where BC and I are fielding, or

1840
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: at least not fielding. But you know, offers come our

1841
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 3: way for all kinds of stuff outside of MK. Hey

1842
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 3: do you want to go do this gig? What about

1843
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: this role in the company? What about that kind of

1844
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: thing you can do? And those are to an extent,

1845
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: not all of them, obviously, but to an extent, those

1846
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 3: are a lot of things that BC and I have

1847
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: long dreamed of doing. But I think the central tension

1848
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 3: that we have is that and really the basic understanding

1849
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 3: that we have in BC and I had a conversation

1850
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 3: about this in Miami. I think that all of those

1851
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 3: things are coming because we've done MK. Like MK is

1852
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 3: the nucleus, it's the reason, it's the catalyst of change,

1853
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 3: at least for this stage of our careers. I don't

1854
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: ever want to lose that. I don't want to do

1855
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: anything on the outside that makes MK change on the inside.

1856
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 3: And my pledge to all the viewers and the listeners

1857
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 3: is I will not I will take other opportunities or

1858
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: whatever that compliment MK.

1859
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: But it would be very, very extremely.

1860
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 3: Foolish of either of us if we just said, oh, well,

1861
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: MK led to this, now I can just leave it.

1862
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it'll come time b C where we've

1863
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 3: outgrown it, but I don't, man, I feel like we're

1864
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: just scratching the surface after a pandemic year where we

1865
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: had to kind of sit on the sidelines. Well, that

1866
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: shit appears to be over for the most part anyway,

1867
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 3: now's the time where we lean into that. Actually, So

1868
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 3: my pledge is that we understand some of the concerns

1869
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 3: that you guys are having, We've had many them. But

1870
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: BC and I we talk about these things. We talk

1871
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: about our future, we talk about our present, and we

1872
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 3: talk about where we want to go, and no one's

1873
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: going to change that, and the day that it does change,

1874
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1875
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: So simple as that.

1876
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So deal with the ads, deal with the long intros.

1877
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully you like boxing, that's what looks saying, right.

1878
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 3: Can we talk about why we cover boxing, bcing. We

1879
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 3: cover it for a few reasons.

1880
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: One, Showtime hired us and they're big into the boxing business.

1881
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: Number one.

1882
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 3: Number two you have I would say, now you're pretty

1883
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty, but obviously your background is a little

1884
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 3: bit more boxing than it is MMA, and so we

1885
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 3: want to bring some of those talents to bear. Number three, Dudes,

1886
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 3: look around. If you just wait for the biggest MMA fights,

1887
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: you have a lot of weeks where you're not talking

1888
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 3: about anything. But if you talk about the biggest combat

1889
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: sports fights, usually boxing and MA, although kickboxing can occasionally

1890
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 3: play a role, Dude, you get to just be a

1891
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 3: bigger shit all the time. It's a much better way

1892
01:26:58,920 --> 01:26:59,839
Speaker 3: to stay visible.

1893
01:26:59,840 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1894
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: Of course, you have to do credible coverage, and I

1895
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: lean for that a lot on BC, especially recently, but

1896
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: over time I'm hoping to be a little bit more

1897
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: self sufficient in that way. I feel like I'm getting

1898
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 3: a little bit closer day by day, but over time, BC,

1899
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: tell me, tell the viewers, dude, it's a much smarter

1900
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: play for us to do what we're doing than just

1901
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: focus on one or the other.

1902
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at there's very many MMA specific shows.

1903
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: We do have overarching skill sets that allow us to

1904
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: cover both and cover both at a very high level.

1905
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: And maybe we'll we'll be seventy thirty, sixty forty whatever

1906
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 2: MMA because that does tend to fill the headlines more often.

1907
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 2: But boxing's not dead, and we do have the connection

1908
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: with show time, and also it's a big part of

1909
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 2: my full time job with CBS Sports as a writer

1910
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: covering this stuff. And also boxing really rules at the

1911
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: highest level. So if you're a hater, you're gonna have

1912
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 2: to get past that.

1913
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's say I SAYBC is we said this

1914
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 3: in Miami, but it deserves repeating. Like you could say

1915
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 3: what you want about the Mayweather Paul fight, dumb as balls, whatever,

1916
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: you hated it you know you want your money back,

1917
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 3: whatever you want to say.

1918
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't care say what you want to say. I'm

1919
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: not gonna police it.

1920
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 3: But like being there and doing what we did for

1921
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: a big boxing fight exhibition. Otherwise, Dude, that was fucking

1922
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 3: huge for us. If we were just covering MMA, we

1923
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 3: would have never gotten that. To the extent that we're

1924
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: in entertaining advancement and opportunities that are coming our way

1925
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 3: is a function of the fact that we had that opportunity.

1926
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 3: You'd be a dumb ass to turn that down.

1927
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: So we didn't.

1928
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: All right, very well handled, Luke. You were honest with

1929
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: the people of most of that. I mean, hopefully we'll

1930
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 2: find the missing episode one day. Spend number four. Look,

1931
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: let's get this going. Here we go.

1932
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Are there, bbls and some We're here all triller? No filler?

1933
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, well, you know you can't win them all.

1934
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a filler question, Luke,

1935
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: But you spun it. Here we go, trillerhead Honcho Ryan

1936
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: Kavanaugh sunny letter to Mike Tyson this week that was

1937
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: obtained by boxing journalist Mike Coppinger. Eventually also Dan Raphael.

1938
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 2: I believe or maybe I was wrong on that Mi

1939
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: Coppinger put it out there on the interwebs. Trailer claims

1940
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: Luke it actually did send the twenty five million dollar

1941
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: purse to Mike Tyson for his exhibition fight against Roy

1942
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Jones Junior, and claims it has receipts to prove it.

1943
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 2: In fact, Luke Kavanaugh went as far as possibly insinuating

1944
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: that Tyson's people, including that whatever that League of Legends thing,

1945
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that was called, might be the ones

1946
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: who are actually withholding the funds from Tyson, which would

1947
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: be sad given this being a pattern in Mike's career.

1948
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: Luke Kavanaugh also said trailer has proof that it has

1949
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: Tyson under contract for one more fight, and said it's

1950
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: hoping in the near future they could get Mike to

1951
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 2: agree to get in there for a trilogy bout against

1952
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Evander Holyfield. Luke, our guy Tyson is fifty four and

1953
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: as unpredictable as any human being alive, so we've got

1954
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: some level of misgivings about ever wanting to see him

1955
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 2: fight again. Plus that Jones fight, it was perfect. Tyson

1956
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 2: won it, although there was no official whatever it was

1957
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 2: a draw, I don't know, but Tyson looked great, Luke,

1958
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 2: why would you want to ruin that? But they always

1959
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: ruin that in combat sports. So, Luke, we asked difficult

1960
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 2: questions here that you don't want to answer. So let's

1961
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: ask it. Let me ask you this. Give me three

1962
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 2: perspective Tyson opponents for his proposed trailer finale should he

1963
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 2: agree to it, that could beat the threshold of one

1964
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 2: million pay per view buys, And then give me the

1965
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: one name, whether it's a part of those three or not,

1966
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: that you would actually get into wanting to see him

1967
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: box and could even be excited enough to like want

1968
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: to preview it. In terms of how it would actually

1969
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: play out.

1970
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: There is no scenario where I could do the latter.

1971
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 3: I can name opponents that would do well. Um, okay,

1972
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: I would say, I mean Holyfield. I don't know about that.

1973
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 3: I would have thought before maybe they could do it

1974
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: with I mean, you know what they might be able

1975
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 3: to do with holy Field as possible, So I'll say Holyfield.

1976
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 3: I'd even say, especially a second Lenox or not even

1977
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 3: a second, but uh, a second crack at well, not

1978
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 3: even that really another crack at Lenox lewis this time

1979
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 3: in an exhibition context context. So that's two, But those

1980
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: are two old foes, So let's think of a new

1981
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: foe they could do it against. Honestly, Anderson Silva might

1982
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: be a way to make that work.

1983
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: That'd be interesting, Luke.

1984
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 3: I don't like that fight for a lot of reasons,

1985
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 3: But you're asking about the what would sell Mike Tyson

1986
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 3: versus Anderson Silva. Yeah, especially after what he did against Javez.

1987
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 3: That might that might do it. So I'll go Evander Lenox,

1988
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,480
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva.

1989
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: No Chavis Junior there to watch Mike, try to send

1990
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: him to the dark debs.

1991
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 3: Luke, he can he can be the he can be

1992
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: the hungover cut man, which is probably what he would be.

1993
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: No Logan Paul mentioned by Luke, I'm not sure if

1994
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:51,879
Speaker 2: he fights on any showtime deal.

1995
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: They might do that. They might do that.

1996
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 3: I know that, you know, there's some chatter that Logan

1997
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 3: Paul's kind of itching for that.

1998
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I just don't have a good read

1999
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: on that. Maybe maybe I thought, here's the thing.

2000
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 3: I thought that he did well enough against Floyd, and

2001
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 3: that the Floyd fight did well enough from a commercial standpoint.

2002
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 3: But I don't know that you can like pivot off

2003
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: of that to something equally strange, and everyone's like, oh,

2004
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still invested in what this might look like.

2005
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 3: It feels to me you have to get something a

2006
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 3: little bit closer to him in skill level to make

2007
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: that work.

2008
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm misreading. I mean, I'm not.

2009
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 3: You know, I would have never imagined people want to

2010
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 3: see TikTokers versus YouTube, but they did.

2011
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: What about the original Mike Tyson of MMA, Vitor Belfort.

2012
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't give a fuck.

2013
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: Okay, well you were honest, Luke, final spin. Here we go.

2014
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Let's put a bow on you get what you get.

2015
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Let's see what you get? Oh fart, Natles, Oh Luke,

2016
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: You've been sent to hall Luke. Unlike in boxing, where

2017
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: broadcasters and journalists can be inducted into the International Boxing

2018
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, like our Showtime colleagues Al Bernstein, Steve Farhood,

2019
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Jim Gray, and even Jimmy Lennon Junior have all been

2020
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: enshrined in Canistota, MMA currently does not have a Hall

2021
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 2: of Fame that includes media members or at least any

2022
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: one of major prominence. In fact, the only hall of

2023
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 2: Fame moving aware of Luke is the UFCS That will

2024
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 2: likely change one day when UFC Luke, in hopes of

2025
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 2: restoring its public reputation of how it deals with the media,

2026
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 2: inducts its first class of broadcasters and journalists, which will

2027
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 2: probably include Mike Goldberg, John Morgan's blue shirt and the

2028
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Schmoe's black vest that has his face on the back

2029
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 2: of it. Luke, Well, let's say a few years after

2030
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 2: that first class gets in, good old Luke Thomas gets

2031
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: the call from the UFC and you were told that

2032
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 2: not only are you going into their Hall of fame

2033
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: in the media wing, yeah right, but that they want

2034
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: you to appoint a fighter active or retired, to come

2035
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: up and induct you and say something nice about you.

2036
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 2: So my question to.

2037
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 1: You is this, Luke, that's an interesting question.

2038
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,480
Speaker 2: First of all, which fighter would you want to bestow

2039
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: that honor upon you? In all seriousness? Secondly, what do

2040
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 2: you wish your peers would say about you and your

2041
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 2: contributions to the sport? During that talking head video package

2042
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: that always precedes the induction they usually have Okamoto and

2043
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 2: John Morgan kind of just be like, hey man, Rashaun

2044
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 2: Evans was a great light heavyweight champion, and Luke to

2045
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 2: spice up this question even more I'm going to add

2046
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: a third layer, similar to how baseball players when they

2047
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: get inducted to Cooperstown the Baseball Hall of Fame, gets

2048
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: to pick the hat that will be on their plaque

2049
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 2: that typically represents which team they had the greatest amount

2050
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 2: of success with. So this could be Espianation, Bloody Elbow, MMA, Fighting, Showtime,

2051
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: CBS Sports, Serious, XM, that time that you worked at

2052
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 2: Chick fil A for a day and all? Which Fighter's

2053
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: gonna induct you? What do you hope your peers say

2054
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: about you? And which hat will you wear going into

2055
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: the UFC Media wing of the Hall of Fame.

2056
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: Uh?

2057
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 3: Now you said the hat? Does the hat have to

2058
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 3: be any job I've ever had? Or does it have

2059
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: to be related to mm A?

2060
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? Related to MMA? Yes, I was joking about Chick

2061
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 2: fil A.

2062
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 3: Luke, all right, So the fighter I would get to

2063
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 3: induct me, I I'd picked. This is easy one for me.

2064
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 3: Chail Son and we've we've battled back and forth. We've

2065
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 3: had our differences, but mostly we don't have differences. I

2066
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 3: think we see I for the most part. I mean

2067
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 3: there's some different you know, there's some there's some topics

2068
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 3: we don't but I think he understands me in a

2069
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 3: way that a lot of other fighters never have. And

2070
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: despite the fact that we don't agree on certain issues,

2071
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 3: the fact that I feel like he understands me is

2072
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:49,879
Speaker 3: more important.

2073
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: So I picked jail.

2074
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: That's a good choice. I respect that I wouldn't have

2075
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: guessed that, but that's a good one.

2076
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. What do I hope they say about me? I

2077
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 3: don't think any of my peers really care for me,

2078
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: So I mean, understand something, dude, Like, I'm not the

2079
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 3: guy who, at least while I'm around, and probably not ever,

2080
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: but I'm not the guy who is gonna win awards.

2081
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: You know.

2082
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's because people have necessarily better content

2083
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 3: than I do, or in this case, we but you know,

2084
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: I pissed a lot of people off. And MMA is

2085
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 3: an industry that loves its own members to be very

2086
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 3: self congratulatory towards you know, MMA wants people who are

2087
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 3: inside of MMA, who cheerlead MMA and don't focus on

2088
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: the bad things on MMA, and I've just never been

2089
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 3: that guy. I feel like it's actually pretty fucked up

2090
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 3: that that's really what the you know, if you want

2091
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: to look at who wins the awards, you can definitely

2092
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 3: look at obviously the size of the audience that people

2093
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 3: can can can generate, but also just notice, is there

2094
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 3: anybody there who to this point anyway has a demonstrated

2095
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 3: track record of, you know, not just pissing off the

2096
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 3: powers that be, but like sticking it to them. I

2097
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: don't think that you can, not in a real way.

2098
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 3: But it's because the people who are in charge of

2099
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: the awards and the people who get the awards, and

2100
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 3: then the fans who want to see the people celebrated

2101
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 3: are the ones that make them feel the best about MMA.

2102
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 3: And I'm just never going to be that guy. And

2103
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: so I understand that I value I think you need

2104
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 3: people in industry who, yeah, I could be celebratory, but

2105
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: I think you also need people who do what I do,

2106
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 3: which is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, all this is

2107
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: fucked up. And I've been right, I've been wrong, But

2108
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 3: I think that role is not the kind that generates

2109
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: the accolades, but it's the necessary one to have a

2110
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 3: healthier sport. So they're not gonna say anything nice about me.

2111
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 3: I've been very critical about MMA media. I don't really

2112
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 3: give a fuck what they think, and they can say

2113
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 3: whatever they want.

2114
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: And they could suck this d Is that how you're

2115
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna end this? Rent?

2116
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Listen?

2117
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 3: There are some members of the MMA media that I

2118
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 3: like a lot, and there's a lot that I don't.

2119
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Don't.

2120
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 3: I don't ever wake up be seen maybe're different. I

2121
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: don't ever wake up and think about, like, what do

2122
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 3: I need to do to get someone's adulation. I realized

2123
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 3: a long time ago I can generate an audience and

2124
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: do the kind of media coverage that I want to

2125
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 3: do without any of those accolades, without any of the

2126
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Speaker 3: backslaps and the high fives from my peers. So I've

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01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 3: just always been oriented that way.

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Speaker 1: So I don't. I mean some of them I like

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01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm not in.

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01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 3: This for their What do you think of what I did?

2131
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what you think I did.

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01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: And then lastly I would say what hat would I wear?

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01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 3: That's a tougher one because showtime has been indescribably supportive,

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01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: so I'd probably go that way, but it would I

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01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 3: would do it with something of a heavy heart because

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01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 3: I don't have anything bad to say about Serious XM.

2137
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 3: They were just always here's what you want in life? Man,

2138
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 3: this is all you ever really want. It's all you

2139
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: really ever need. You just need someone to believe in you.

2140
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 3: And maybe it's just one person, and that one person

2141
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 3: opens up one door, but the cascading effect of that

2142
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 3: can be transformative. And for a long time BC I

2143
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 3: was the only person who believed in what I was doing.

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01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 3: Why did I buy all of the lights and the

2145
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 3: cameras to do live streaming and the cameras themselves and

2146
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 3: the lenses, and why did I take courses on the stuff?

2147
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 3: Because no one believed in me to give me an

2148
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 3: opportunity to do the stuff that I wanted to do,

2149
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 3: So I had to invest in me. But it was

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01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 3: only after I invested in me that some other people

2151
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: began to see some of the things that I was

2152
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 3: seeing in myself, and SERRIOUSXM was one of the very

2153
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 3: first ones that really did that. So what I would

2154
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 3: do is I'd probably wear like a Showtime hat and

2155
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 3: maybe put like a serious XM sticker on there somewhere,

2156
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 3: or some kind of nod, because it would just be

2157
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 3: it would not be fair to say that everyone has

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01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 3: done for me what Showtime has, but it would be

2159
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 3: equally unfair to just leave Serious XM out of the conversation.

2160
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: Would you wear an MMA fighting branded anal plug during

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01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 2: the ceremony?

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01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they even rate that.

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01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Luke, I know you were gonna

2164
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: ask me, so I'll just answer it. I've been thinking

2165
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 2: hard about this. I would have you want to induct me.

2166
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta be who you are, Luke. At

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01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: the end of the day.

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01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 1: That's a good you know what. That's a good call.

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01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 1: That's a good call. That's funny, that's funny.

2170
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you would make it all about herself. But

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01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm prepared for that one.

2172
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: Probably, probably, but you know whatever.

2173
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: Let's close the show with a bang. Here, Luke, Morningcombat

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01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com is your email addressed to hit

2175
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 2: up our producers with your fan mail, with your contributions,

2176
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: your artwork, and also with your dead wrongs for Friday show.

2177
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: But today is Wednesday, so every Wednesday we got mail

2178
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 2: and it's in the form of fan submissions. All right,

2179
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 2: let's look through the mailbox here, Luke. First one from

2180
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: El Danny four thirteen. Here's a fan submission from Las Vegas. Luke.

2181
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 2: This fella, I think actually this is his lady's account.

2182
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: Look at this fine couple on they went to Vegas

2183
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 2: and this guy's rocking the sh medium MKT shirt. Shout out, Luke.

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01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Right, you know what, God bless this fella. Thumbs up.

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01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 3: This is the iconic uh you know, light display or

2186
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call this the sign and you

2187
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 3: know what, they're having a good time.

2188
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: God bless this man for yeah, wearing our shodow.

2189
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 2: They're wearing our shit around Sin City. Shout out to

2190
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 2: this couple. Love that, all right, let's keep it going.

2191
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 2: George has two of us, two for us, Luke. The

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01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 2: first one. Hello, my name is George, I'm in the

2193
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 2: long hair. Me and my buddy Chip are from San Diego.

2194
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 2: We're currently doing our first bike tour from San Luis

2195
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,959
Speaker 2: Obispo to San Diego. We even listened to Monday's episode

2196
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: June twenty first, on our first twenty miles of the tour.

2197
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 2: One photo is from our highest point of the trip.

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01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 2: I know you can't see any reference to elevation, but

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01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 2: that's because no one was around to take the pick.

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01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 2: But the other photo is from our lowest point on

2201
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: the tour. This is at CSU Santa Barbara, a Day

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01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 2: one fan who loves the show and wishes everyone involved

2203
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: with it. Well, just two more things, Luke. You're a

2204
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 2: metalhead just like me. Quit getting pumped up to skill

2205
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: res and listen to some suffocation, he says.

2206
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: And I like location suffication is good.

2207
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: And also, big Beije Campbell, I love prog rock just

2208
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 2: as much as you selling England by the pound. The

2209
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,839
Speaker 2: Seminal album from Genesis is one of my all time favorites.

2210
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 2: But quit being a big Beije pussy and listen to

2211
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 2: some metal. Yeah, George, Well, I'm very happy that George

2212
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: on the right with that rock star hair and his

2213
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 2: boyfriend Chip Whent on this trip, Luke, and listen to

2214
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 2: our songs or our shows. I appreciate that, but uh,

2215
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm good. I mean, I like some metal, Luke,

2216
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 2: but it's just it's you know, you can only listen

2217
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 2: to it so long before you become angry and buy

2218
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: your own camera equipment and have your own YouTube channel

2219
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 2: and are hard to work with, right.

2220
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the last of those things is

2221
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 3: slightly overstated. I just have a few principles I like

2222
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 3: to have here too. But you know what, God blessed

2223
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: these two. I don't know how far San Luis Obispo

2224
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: is from San Diego, but I bet it's pretty fucking far.

2225
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, God bless these too, man, this is great.

2226
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 3: Really appreciate the support. Love that they took some time

2227
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 3: out to make these photos. And uh they probably banged

2228
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 3: after this, right be see yeah probably see.

2229
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean they went to Tip to Tip, shout out

2230
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: to Chip. You think Chip is the No enough of that, no, no,

2231
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: no power bottom jokes. Let's keep it going, Luke. Our

2232
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 2: fans can do whatever they want with their with their

2233
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: private parts. This one's from Keena f Hello, Luke, big

2234
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 2: fan of MK. I'm from London. What do you make

2235
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: of my budget home gym?

2236
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 3: First of all, it's better than my budget home gym,

2237
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 3: So let's go through this. He's got some kind of

2238
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 3: he's got some kind of aerodyne assault rower, not rower

2239
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 3: a bike there. He's got some kind of Nordic bike

2240
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 3: on the elliptical excuse me, on the side. He has

2241
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 3: a proper rack. He's got Tatomi pads on the bottom,

2242
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: which aren't the best. You want the horse stall horse

2243
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 3: stable flooring is better, but you get what you can get,

2244
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 3: so that's pretty good. He's got I can't quite tell

2245
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 3: those are like, I guess those are boxing gloves. On

2246
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 3: the right, he's got some warm up stuff with the

2247
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 3: banded stuff. On the right, he's got an ab roller

2248
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 3: a wheel at the top of the white like cabinet

2249
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 3: tree there. And I don't see how much I don't

2250
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 3: see how much free weight he has, and it's hard

2251
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: to tell what he's got on the left there. But

2252
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 3: I got to say, all in all pretty good. My

2253
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: only concern BC would be could he do standing overhead

2254
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 3: press work? He obviously can do sitting overhead press. He

2255
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 3: standing overhead press.

2256
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Let's hope that also the women in his life have

2257
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 2: a proper rack as well. He has a question for you, Luke,

2258
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: what conditioning machine is more torture? The air bike or

2259
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 2: your sled?

2260
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's a tough question.

2261
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 3: I get harder workouts with the sled, but they're shorter because,

2262
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 3: especially with the heat, there's only so much you can

2263
01:44:55,360 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 3: really do. The Thing about those bikes, like the assault

2264
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 3: bikes or whatever, I feel like they can kill you,

2265
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 3: and they can kill you for longer periods of time,

2266
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 3: So like.

2267
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: The torture is for me worse so to speak, on

2268
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 1: the sled, But the torture is much longer on the bike,

2269
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: so I might go the bike because you really have

2270
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: to have mental focus with that shit.

2271
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: You also turned down my offer to raise me in

2272
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 2: a fifty yard dash for our academic to cathline because

2273
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 2: you said you're physically unable.

2274
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: That's right, I can't really sprint.

2275
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 2: I just exposed you right there, all right, Quina or

2276
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: what's a guy's named Keina? He's hoping for international merch soon. Hey, bro,

2277
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 2: go to Morningcombat Dot store right now and get your ish. Okay,

2278
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can buy it in pounds baby, Okay,

2279
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: Courtney s it has a three of them. Luke, Hey, donks.

2280
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 2: I started listening to the show because my boyfriend Dan

2281
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: loves it. Thanks to Dan, I'm now a subscribed listener

2282
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: and a huge fan. To show my support for the show,

2283
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 2: I bought both me and my boyfriend matching MK hoodies.

2284
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, hell yeah, dude.

2285
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 3: We have a female listener. She's one of three. She

2286
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 3: gets all our jokes and she buys our merch. I

2287
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 3: feel like she's the official queen of Morning Combat.

2288
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 2: God so she says. We live in Detroit. But over

2289
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 2: the weekend, Dan decided to take me on a backpacking

2290
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: trip to the west side of the state on the

2291
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 2: shores of Luddington, Michigan. I swam in Lake Michigan for

2292
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: the first time and captured this pick of us both

2293
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 2: wearing our new hoodies on the beach. Also, she says,

2294
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 2: thanks for putting a smile on our faces and for

2295
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 2: all the great content Courtney and Daniel Luke. They did

2296
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 2: they really break those hoodies in? If you know what

2297
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 2: I mean? Do you think so? Well?

2298
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Two questions.

2299
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 3: One, how warm is it where they can wear fucking

2300
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 3: hoodies this time of year?

2301
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: It's the summer, bro Come on, yeah, wear hoodies in

2302
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 2: the summer. Oh you ever been up by the Great Lakes?

2303
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: It's windy as balls?

2304
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, I guess that's right.

2305
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 3: I've swam in a swam swam in Lake Michigan, but

2306
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 3: only in August, which I'm told is the only time

2307
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 3: it's really warmed up, and it was phenomenal. But this

2308
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 3: was in Chicago, not this part. But you know what, dude,

2309
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 3: this is the power couple of Morning Combat. It's pretty impressive.

2310
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 2: Big fan. Well, I mean Bill and Jen and the

2311
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 2: RV and you.

2312
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, they're important too. Yeah, I don't want to

2313
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: lose oie to.

2314
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 2: It, Ram and Nettie up there in Ireland, the Manning

2315
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: family as well. But this is I mean, hey, this

2316
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 2: lady is a keeper here, Dan, so can you you know,

2317
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 2: you know what to do?

2318
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: Bro?

2319
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, let's keep it rolling here, Luke physiow

2320
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 2: says hi, Uncle Luke and Campbell's soup. This one's for Luke.

2321
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 2: If training gloves are so bad, then why am I

2322
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: setting bear traps with this heavy shrug? Then? From deutsch Land,

2323
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 2: he's got some some gibberish written in German here, Luke,

2324
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 2: But what do you think of this guy?

2325
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 1: Luke? He is not shrugging very much. I gotta tell

2326
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: you that is not a lot of weight. Ninety five pounds?

2327
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: Is it? What he's shrugging?

2328
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 2: Can you critique his ink? Men? Can we blow this

2329
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: up a little bit?

2330
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: Please?

2331
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: Oh?

2332
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: His ink? He's atrocious.

2333
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, it's like, first of all,

2334
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 3: it's like, uh, are those trash bags on his hands?

2335
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Obviously he's doing a bit.

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Speaker 3: He's got the dream catcher on the right arm, which

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Speaker 3: I'm told is like people in Europe think, is like

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Speaker 3: kind of cool. Okay, And then he's got a tribal

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Speaker 3: tattoo on the left that just goes into dark ink

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Speaker 3: that's indecipherable on the Yeah, at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny.

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01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 2: Lifting in the same basement of the final scene of

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01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 2: the movie Blair Witch Project where that kid had to

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01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 2: face the corner and then probably I've never seen that movie.

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01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Luca, that's that's a That was a dude. People.

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01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 2: People make fun of that movie now, but they don't

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01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 2: realize when it came out it broke so much ground.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was great.

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Speaker 3: It was a bigger deal when it came out. It

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01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 3: was a big deal for a lot of different reasons. Yeah,

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01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: it's true.

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01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people even I watched in the theater with

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01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 2: some people like, oh, that wasn't scary at all. The

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01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,799
Speaker 2: movie sucked. I'm like, bro, that movie is genius. Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's keep it rolling here. Devin slides in from Lake Stephens, Washington.

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01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: He's says, I think I found BC's workout gloves. See

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01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 2: the attachment ps keep the badass content going. I'm an

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01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 2: electrician in Washington State and I can't get enough podcasts

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01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 2: while I work. I look forward to all day almost

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01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 2: every day thank you for your hard, hard time and work.

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 2: For your time and hard work. Luke, what do you

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01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: think of these lifting gloves?

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01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: Perfect?

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01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 3: If you're gonna wear those kinds of things, you should

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Speaker 3: wear ones that look like this, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look like men's underpants, tidy weddies, Luke, I love that

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01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:39,879
Speaker 2: this electrician, this laborer, this this guy from Lake Stephens, Wisconsin.

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01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: He could probably hang in my factory town, right, these

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01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 2: are our people. I support this man. Okay, he keeps

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01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: the lights on all right, in more than one way. Okay,

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: thank you. Anthony m slides in Merch one point zero

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01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: came in and I love the quality. MK is part

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01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: of my WFH setup.

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Speaker 1: What the hell does that mean, Luke, work from home?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're good on those things. Can we blow it

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01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 2: up and see how Anthony looks?

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01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, he's bawling. He's got the I think

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01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 3: that's one of the new shore mics or road mics.

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01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus Christ, I got a phone call coming in.

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Speaker 2: I mean he knows his way around the gym a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yes he does, and he's got let's see

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 3: the three screens he's got.

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01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: You can see the light above his head.

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01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,839
Speaker 2: It's pretty good as a professional. Yep, this is good stuff.

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01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 2: That's good stuff. He kind of looks like our merch

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01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: guy crup a little bit, which that might have been

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01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: an insult. But that's that's all right. We'll keep it

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01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 2: rolling here, Luke, Peter m has two for us this week.

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01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 2: Here's the Wheel of Death meme, just to kick it off,

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01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 2: or maybe that's the other one.

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01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 1: All right, that's that's good. That's good meming. That's good meming.

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01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 2: That's pretty good meming. Do we have a second one

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 2: from Peter miniature? Was that all of it in one meme?

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01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 2: Here we go. Let's blow this up.

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01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 3: Do you smoke only when Luke and Brian talk, m

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01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 3: m A your lungs arm. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 3: boxing recently, BC. You got to admit that. You got

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01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 3: to admit that.

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01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 2: That's why when we went thirty five minutes to open

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01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 2: on Andnganu and Minieach was technic, you know, sending us

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01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 2: a little mess like, hey guys, going a little long.

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01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, Jay, pipe down. The people need

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01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: this MMA fix all right, thank you. Final one from

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01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 2: Rodrigo Hi. I'm a big fan of the show and

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01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 2: made this looping animation for Morning Combat. Let me know

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01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 2: if you need the video in any other formats. Let's

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01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: check this out.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that is fucking killer looking.

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh that badass man. That's is that McGregor's chest hat

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01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 2: yea with Pai's sauce.

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01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 3: And it's a traditional American traditional gorilla with the king

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01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 3: and then like you know, the background behind it with

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01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 3: the hot sauce in his mouth making him sweat.

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01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: Fucking a. That is great.

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01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 2: Wow, and I like the the font there at the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Luke for MK and pory A McGregor three next week,

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01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 2: can't wait, Vegas be there. Very well done, Rodrigo. Thank

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01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: you to all of our people for buying our merch,

2421
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: sending in the picks, creating the art, all that good stuff.

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01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: This is for the people, buy the people. It is

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Thank you so much, folks. Luke, that's all

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01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 2: we got two hours. Look we are we're pumping. We're

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01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 2: pumping it more than once this week. I mean we're

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01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 2: we went like two fifteen on Monday show.

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 1: I know it's way too long.

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01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 3: Let's remind the folks that a couple of things we

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Speaker 3: still have dead wrong. For Friday Morning Combat at gmail

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Speaker 3: dot com. Plus, we're gonna do a room service diaries

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01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, which means we need not you don't

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 3: have to send them to Morning Combat, but we need to.

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01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 3: We need to scam Apple, which means we need you

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01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 3: to leave a review there it's five stars and then

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01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 3: put your question there so that we could artificially inflate

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Speaker 3: our numbers in that way.

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Speaker 1: What else you see?

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01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 3: If we want to try Showtime, you can Showtime dot

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Speaker 3: com three to day free trial.

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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 1: You like it, you can keep it.

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01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 3: If not, you can go and do whatever you want

2442
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 3: with your life. If you would like to buy some merch,

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01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 3: you can go to Morningcombat dot store. We have some

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 3: merch available up there. And uh yeah, we're back live

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01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 3: chat tomorrow at three. Show is back again on Friday

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01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 3: at eleven and the assignment.

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01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 2: For Friday, Luke final warning on the homework.

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01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh yes, we're going to watch The Night Comes for us.

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01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 3: It's on Netflix. We will discuss it on Friday, so

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01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 3: watch it ahead of time and then of course, and

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01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 3: more to combat at gmail dot com. You can leave

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01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 3: any questions and comments you might have about the movie

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 3: that you want us to address.

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01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: B see anything else.

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01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 2: No, that's our show. We hope you enjoyed it. Thank

2456
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 2: you for coming along on this ride. We addressed our future.

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 2: Our future is bright, so bright that I've got to

2458
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: wear shades. Come along with us, Okay, if you're gonna

2459
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 2: come bro, come on, okay.

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01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So with that in mind, for Malca, for showtime for

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Speaker 3: CBS Sports, I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, all of

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Speaker 3: your gains be loyal, yes,