1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: It is me. This week, Ben is still out on 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: his honeymoon. I think he might be like in transit 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: back to home from St Barth St Barth St Barth, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: follow me or whatever you call it. UM, So he'll 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: be back next week to regale us with all of 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: his honeymoon tales or at least the details that he'll 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: let us in on. Very excited about that. But today 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: we have Jacqueline Trumbull. You may remember her as the psychologist. 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: She was studying psychology UM when she was on RI 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: season and she's just about to wrap up her current 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: PhD program at Duke University UM. So we're gonna have 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: her to come on and talk about this episode, which 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: guys like, what is going on? I cannot believe Clayton 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: is the Bachelor. That is my biggest takeaway. Still can't 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: believe it. But before we get her on the line, 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I do want to give out our batch bracket rule 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: of the week. Are you ready for it? Batch Bracket 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: rule the week four, Week seven is minus five points 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: if a contestant says they are quote jealous of another 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: contestant or another contestants relationship or time with Michelle. So 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: this will be for the I believe, the Hometown Day episode, 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: so look out for the word jealous. All right, let's 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: get Jacqueline and catch up with her for a second 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: before we dive into the episode, and man like, I 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: think her her background in psychology might help us break 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: it down a bit. Alright, guys, we got Jacqueline Trumbull 29 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: on the line. Do I say guys too much? I'm 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: always like, okay, guys, hey, guys, I'm sorry that must 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: be very annoying for y'all out there. But Jacqueline is here, 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: and Jacqueline, what's what are you up to? We knew 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: that you were studying psychology back on our season, but 34 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: you're still You're going for your PhD now at Duke. 35 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: I am, yeah, I'll be doing that for approximately forever. 36 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: How much longer do we have until you're a practicing psychologists? Yeah, 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: it's a six year program, so I am in the 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: third year right now, and then after that I'm still 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: wanta be a licensed for like another two years. So 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: maybe when I'm thirty seven, I'll make money. But oh 41 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, well, I'd love to hear how you watch 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: how you think you watch the Bachelor franchise differently because 43 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: of your studies. Oh gosh, um, I think I mean 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: more than anything. I think I just watch how like 45 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: produced and manipulated it is. And then I see you know, 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: the contestants reactions to like what's happening to them. Do 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: you think that's from your experience on the show or 48 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: do you think that's I didn't. I didn't feel overtly 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: manipulated at the time, but I can see how the 50 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: same like storylines keep happening and just you know, just 51 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: like some tinkering. But I what I found really interesting 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: about the show on my time and now is that 53 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: it felt like it created its own little culture. And um, 54 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: certain things that wouldn't necessarily be cool or normal out 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: in the real world were suddenly totally acceptable. You're the 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you know crier from your season. I also felt like 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: I was crying every four and a half seconds. So 58 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I felt like this like culture of strong emotions was 59 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: really pushed there, and it felt good to be like 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: really open and vulnerable and have really different kinds of 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: conversations than in normal life. Um, and so one thing 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: I think is interesting is like when people criticize contestants 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: who were watching from the outside, not understanding that the 64 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: way you're kind of encouraged to be is totally different 65 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: and the rules are just different. I don't know, it 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: was just really interesting. Yes, totally. There was a conversation 67 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: in this week's episode, which will break down in a second, 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: that felt super edited, and I wonder if you picked 69 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: up on it. Oh, maybe which one? Yes, gosh, okay, 70 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: what felt super I don't know. I don't know Martin Okay, 71 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: well non figured not his conversation with Michelle, but his 72 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: conversation that he had with the guys. Oh, because I 73 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: was like not understanding where um oh Lou was getting 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: his info for Like, I was like, okay, how was he? 75 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: I definitely, I definitely felt like something was missing, something 76 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: is missing, right, So I had to go back, And 77 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: then when I did rewind and I watched it again, 78 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's a lot of Martin talking 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: without him his face showing. Okay, so those are like 80 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: one of those moments. The one thing I know is 81 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: always like it seems like he's telling her something different 82 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: than what he's telling us. But I felt like always 83 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: saw him tell them was what happened. I mean, he 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: was he kept insisting that she made an incorrect interpretation, 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: which I don't think was true, but I don't know, 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like he was saying anything all that different, 87 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: so I was a little confused by that. Yeah, he's 88 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: clearly kind of a dick in general. I mean just 89 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: bad vibes, right, I don't know, like Martin just has 90 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 1: given bad vibes for a while. So it's like, even 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: though it felt like something was missing, I was still like, Okay, 92 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to trust this, and I think that, like, 93 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: between you and I, we can probably say that even 94 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: though like there is always a lot missing from the 95 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: show's contexts, because we are being filmed twenty four or 96 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: seven and they crunch it down to an hour and 97 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, we can say that generally it's you get 98 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: the you get what actually happened in the airing version. Yeah, 99 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean when I watched back, I definitely felt like 100 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: my storyline had been manipulated, but it wasn't in a 101 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: way that bothered me too much. And I felt like 102 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: in general, the kind of essences of the people were 103 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: like pretty accurate like I don't remember thinking, oh that guy, 104 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: that person got really shafted the essence soul like that. Yeah, 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: that's funny. Okay, Well have you been dating? Do you 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend? Is there any like updates since you 107 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: were dating Ari? Oh yeah, no, I'm getting married in July. 108 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: That's amazing, congrats me. So he's actually a um he's 109 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: actually a psych professor at Duke. So that's you know, 110 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: candaalous he came into so scandalous, but also me now 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: he's in a different kind of psych so we have 112 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: no overlap, Like he doesn't teach any classes that I take, 113 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and we have a whole management plan. Basically, he gave 114 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: a guest lecture um in one of my classes, and 115 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I just thought he was super cute and we had 116 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: he like talked a little bit about his life. I 117 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: was like, I mean, he's like an artist. That's one 118 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: of his paintings back there, and um, I like to 119 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: paint all these overlaps and so I basically just made 120 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: it my mission to go seduce this person. So I 121 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: got him to meet up with I like slim his 122 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: d m s on Twitter, and then we started talking 123 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot. Met up with him and then as soon 124 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: as we basically acknowledged there was something going on, we 125 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: like went to HR and they made a management plan 126 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: for us. So just I know people have feelings about 127 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: me dating professor, but um, yeah, that's how we met, 128 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: and um I'm waiting. So I proposed to him a 129 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: couple of weekends ago and he is proposing to me 130 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: within the month proposed to him. Tell us how you 131 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: decided to do that non traditional move. Yeah, So it 132 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: wasn't even I wasn't like aiming to be nontradition and 133 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: will or anything like that. But I have horrible commitment issues, 134 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and in the first year of our relationship, I just 135 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: made him crazy because I was noncommittal, and then he 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: made me crazy because he was reacting to that. And 137 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: so I got into my head that maybe I proposed 138 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: to him because that would be like a show of 139 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: real commitment and security. And then by the time we 140 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: actually were really talking about getting married, I was like, 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: screw that. I want the ring and the proposed and everything. 142 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: So I knew he was planning something and I just 143 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: said that to him. I was like, you know, I 144 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of had this idea, and he was like, do 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you have it? Not. I'm a lot of proposal too. 146 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: So then he like, I was like, okay, seriously, He's like, yeah, 147 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: I want you to propose to me. So then I 148 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: came up with this whole proposal and did you do 149 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: it with a ring? I did? Yeah, I got a 150 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: little I got a gold signat ring with a letter J. 151 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: So you know who always have me with him? Did 152 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you get down on one knee? Uh no, I put 153 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: it I So this isn't supposed to be the serious proposal. 154 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: But when I asked what he wanted for his proposal, 155 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: he pointed at his penis. So I got a pair 156 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: of underwear like monogram to stay, like will you marry me? 157 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: And then he had to look at my ASTs. Oh 158 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's hilarious. I have another girlfriend who she 159 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: proposed to her boyfriend too, and it was like started 160 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: out as a joke like two years earlier, and then 161 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: he was like, no, you said it, You're gonna do 162 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: it one day, like this is how we're gonna do it. 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: So like she really did it whatever, and now yeah, 164 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the wedding is also this coming summer. Oh nice, everything 165 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: everyone is getting married this summer everyone. Yeah, have you 166 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: started planning. Have you you have a date and all 167 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: that at a date and the venue as long as 168 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: all I have, as long as you secured that venue. 169 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Because supposedly the most popular wedding year ever because of 170 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: so many people who have had to push it back 171 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: to that year. I know. Alright, well, let's dive into 172 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: this episode, but first we have to take a break. 173 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, okay. Part one, we see Michelle's 174 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: men talking to some of Michelle's students. We don't know 175 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: their current students. They seem very young, and I thought 176 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: that she teaches like fifth grade, but they are all 177 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: very adorable and they're kind of like quizzing them and 178 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: they're figuring out who they like. They're asking silly questions 179 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: about like farts and stuff. Um. I think it was 180 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: actually very adorable until they really pretend, until production made 181 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: it seem like the kids really planned these dates, and 182 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: then they took it so seriously. I'm like, Okay, the 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: audience isn't dumb. These kids didn't book the planetarium. The 184 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: book the planetarium and ask really probing questions, you know, 185 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: and write my little slips. She ends up going on 186 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: the date with Clayton, So what What have your feelings 187 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: on Clayton been so far? Because going into this date, 188 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, knowing that he's the Bachelor, we're 189 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna like grow to love him, we are going to 190 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: get so much out of him during this one day, 191 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: and he's going to be a shoe in for Top 192 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: four and he'll be kind of the dark horse. Yeah. Well, 193 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I was definitely expecting to see more given what we 194 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: know what happens with him. He seems like he just 195 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: seems like the Bachelor from two thousand fift Like he 196 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: just seems totally that type. He's really sweet. He says 197 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: the lines, you know, with like total sincerity, tears in 198 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: his eyes. I just want to find love, you know, 199 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: so I can see why they chose him. But other 200 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: than that, it's like it was just such a normal, 201 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: like not particularly exciting date or episode. He just did 202 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: nothing for me on this day, and he obviously did 203 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: nothing Michell, so I was like I had to like 204 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: pose it, and I was left just mind boggle and 205 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, this is the end 206 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: of his story and he has become the Bachelor. This 207 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: is wild. He doesn't even make Top four and then 208 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: they like kind of take a quick break and they 209 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: go into this the scene where he's reading letters from 210 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: the quote children. Do you believe that these letters are 211 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: from the children or did the children write them in 212 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: their child handwriting and they were maybe like fed some lines. 213 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: Well that just makes me want because I think I 214 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: think I either could happen. I mean, I wonder how 215 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: much effort the producers put it, Like if they were 216 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: assigned a producer and the producer sat down with them 217 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: and was basically planting ideas about how to write, and 218 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: they wrote it together. But it's certainly not like the 219 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: children took it upon themselves to write these letters for 220 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: dear Clayton, and he acts as if they truly did. 221 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: But I also feel like there was like a hint. 222 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: There had to be a hint of acting, because we 223 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: felt nothing between them. I just feel like he was 224 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of told like, hey, we don't have a bachelor 225 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: for next season. UM, just wanted to put that in 226 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: your head before you make your final um camera appearance. Yeah, 227 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: it's really just bizarre. I mean, I can't. It really 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: seems like they were just that desperate ticket back to 229 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: a white bachelor, like that they were willing to do this. 230 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes no sense to me that 231 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: they would take somebody who's top eight and had no 232 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: connection with the lead. I mean you could see like 233 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: at dinner she had art gone and deciding she doesn't 234 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: want to date this person. Like her face was shut off, 235 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: she was totally locked down. I mean it was just 236 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what he could have possibly 237 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: be thinking. Like if I were him, I would be 238 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: completely floored if somebody said you have bachelor potential or 239 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: like you're a guy. Same. So then like when he's 240 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: so he reads these letters and then he starts like 241 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: going into this you know, emotional release about how he 242 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: just all he really wants a wife and kids, like 243 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: now he just really wants a waving kids when he 244 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: was just telling Michelle the day before that like it 245 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: was something that he hadn't thought about for a while, 246 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: but like apparently being with her like he had this 247 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: big revelation that now he's ready for it. And it 248 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: was just it was really like they were like, Okay, 249 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: we don't have a bachelor, so let's throw this little 250 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: scene together and hopefully people buy it. And I didn't 251 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: buy it, well I didn't buy it, but the thing 252 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: is like I could have thought it if they had 253 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: showed more of him earlier on. I mean, there's got 254 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: to be some reason they're going for this guy. But 255 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, isn't it alarming that, like we 256 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: apparently saw the highlight reel of this guy, right, there's 257 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: nothing else to show? Yeah, like, if they've been they've 258 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: had so much opportunity to show his shining moments, and 259 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: apparently we saw shining moments and there was nothing shiny 260 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: about it. Poor guy. I mean, I guess maybe they're 261 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: just thinking, like, yeah, we have like this cookie cutter 262 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor of like Brad Walmack past, and we'll let the 263 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: ladies take the lead and make the season. But I 264 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really, really hard to get Bachelor 265 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Nation on board with this guy because there's just we 266 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: have no connection, no reason to really root for him. 267 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: If it weren't for this podcast, I can't imagine me 268 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: being like, oh yeah, I can't wait to tune in 269 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: to see this guy fall in love. Am I being 270 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: too honest? There's no such thing? Uh, yeah, I don't know. 271 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have a hypothesis the sister why 272 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: they chose him? I mean, there was two seasons of 273 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: men to pick from, right, Peter Webber and I came 274 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: up with the only thing I could think of as 275 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: far as just selecting from this season, it was maybe 276 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: if they picked one of the top four guys, they 277 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: would think that they were like spoiling this season too much, 278 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: because then we wouldn't have a guy that we just 279 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we saw that Clayton became the Bachelor, 280 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: like what two months ago, We've known this, So like 281 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't want it to be one of the 282 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: top four guys because then it would just kind of 283 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: ruin all the speculation as to who she ends up 284 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: with once it got down to the nitty grittia her season. Yeah, 285 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: I guess, but they do they keep doing that with 286 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay. Yeah, I'm saying it's not a good enough excuse, 287 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: certainly not good enough. If anything, they could have done 288 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: like a just a stunt casting, like let's just get 289 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: a celebrity on there. There's a lot of celebrities that, 290 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: you know, like even like a Dancing with the Stars 291 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: roll over, somebody who's like one have been prominent on 292 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: that that we could like steal over from the Bachelor. 293 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know even someone from Paradise. I don't know 294 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: just any right. I mean, I thought they're gonna go 295 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: with Greg for a while, That's what Steve was saying. 296 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: But I mean that would have been risky. But I 297 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: still would have been a fan of that decision. But 298 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: at least it's more gripping than than this one. Exactly. 299 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: I was trying to make up on there. All right, 300 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Well enough crapping on Clayton. Let's move into this week's 301 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: group date. Alright, So the remaining guys are on this one. 302 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: We find out that Brandon is going to get his 303 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: one on one, So we have Rick, Rodney, Joe, Nate, Martin, 304 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: and Oh Lou on this one. Cute that they have 305 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: to go to a go to a farm and milk 306 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: the cows. It's fun to see the guys like getting 307 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: their hands dirty and stuff like that. Any thoughts on 308 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: that portion of the date just very very very standard 309 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: wrestler um. The nighttime portion is when it gets it 310 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: gets interesting, mostly because of this Martin thing. So she 311 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: first she sits down with Martin and well, actually I 312 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: don't know what happened. First she either sits down with 313 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: Martin and it goes just swimmingly, which is and then 314 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: absolutely yeah, And then oh Lou comes in afterwards and says, like, 315 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: this is what Martin has been saying behind your back. 316 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Um oh Lou says he's been calling her immature, says 317 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: that she hasn't like faced issues from her past based 318 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: on her poem that she read, you know, a couple 319 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. And then he also just kind of 320 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: said he kind of alludes to the fact that there 321 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: was like a missing communication last week and maybe there's 322 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: even a miscommunication the week before last as well between 323 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: the two of them, and he says something about her 324 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: just not listening. So like that was what I really 325 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: gathered from that conversation amongst them, was that she wasn't 326 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: listening um to him. But that is that's not the 327 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: issue that Ohlu brought brought to Michelle. He said he 328 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: could focus more on the immature thing and the fact 329 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: that she hasn't um faced issues of her past. Um 330 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Ohlu obviously has been somebody who has proven to be trustworthy. 331 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And once she hears this from him, she brings Martin 332 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: back In and and how did you feel about how 333 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: this went down? I mean, the problem is is that 334 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: he's so abrasive and uh, just doesn't I mean, the 335 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: way he reacted in a limo was so immature that 336 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: was like kind of cast a shadow back on what 337 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: was going on in the conversation. I can this happens 338 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Like I can totally see how he 339 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: could have actually said she has insecurities from her past 340 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: and that was like a normal thing to say because 341 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: everyone does, and maybe he was commenting on that in 342 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: some way, and then all of a sudden he's confronted 343 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: with this like misinterpretation of that, if it indeed was, 344 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: and I can see how like he would feel cornered 345 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and frustrated and want to get his point out and 346 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: not feel like he can. But he was just such 347 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: an asshole that it's like, I don't even kind of 348 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: care what his perspective is here. His overall vibe is 349 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: just it just hasn't been good for me, and he 350 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: is about he is not the finest communicator. And then yes, 351 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: to top it off, what he says in the car 352 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: about him never wanting to have been with her after 353 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: something like that, that was just kind of like gross. 354 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: I didn't mind him the first like one on one 355 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: date they had. I thought he was again kind of 356 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: harsh and abrasive, but like, I didn't think he was 357 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: making bad points. I enjoyed that they talked about like 358 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: their perspectives for ones and like they're different ways of communicating. 359 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Like I thought that was a cool change for the Bachelor, 360 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: which usually is just about like, here's my trauma story. 361 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Do you accept it? Yes, okay, move on? But yeah, 362 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: he's not. He would he would he lived up to 363 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: his stuci hairdube. I think, there we go, and that's 364 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: how will end speaking about Martin. One on one day 365 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: between Michelle and Brandon and Brandon, um, it's just like 366 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: a hometown spot date. So they go to her favorite 367 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: ice cream place. Then she keeps saying that she can 368 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: see him being her best friend. They go to the 369 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: parents house and like this is another super stagy moment 370 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, my parents are at home, do 371 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: you want to see you around? And then they're in 372 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: the hot tub making out. When her parents come home, 373 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, dude, you've got to know that Michelle 374 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: knew her parents were going to come home. I would think, so. 375 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I did still think it was I thought it was 376 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: like cheeky enough that I didn't mind the like clear 377 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: production interference. Okay, okay, it was Yeah. So he ends 378 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: up sitting down with her parents and there's just like 379 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: something about Brendan that feels like the high school boyfriend 380 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: to me, like that she's giddy over and he just 381 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: feels young. He's very sweet, but there is just something 382 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: missing for me. But I don't think it's actually missing 383 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: for Michelle. So I need to speak on behalf of 384 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Michelle who seems to be like absolutely swooned, totally smitten 385 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: with him. Um. When they sit down at dinner and 386 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: he says that I feel like I'm falling in love 387 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: with you, like she says, my heart is beating so rapidly, 388 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: like you canmost feel like she wants to say it 389 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: back to him. There's the whole best friend thing again, 390 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: and that's how what she really really wants in a relationship. 391 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: And he even goes as far as you ask the 392 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: parents for permission if it is him in the end, 393 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: permission for you know, to get down on one day. Um, 394 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: And the mom is like, yeah, he's very sweet, I 395 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: like him, and then the dad like do the Dad's 396 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: like it doesn't have anything to say, and I feel 397 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: like that's how I would have nothing, because I felt 398 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: like the dad in that moment where it was like 399 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: I just sorry, I don't have enough to go on 400 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: right now. What are you? What's your take on this? No, 401 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I thought it was a really sweet day. 402 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: I really liked him, and I'm like, he has ten 403 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: years out from being married. Yeah, I don't know what 404 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: it is about him that makes me feel this because 405 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: he is like such a nice guy. He's really done 406 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: nothing wrong. But like, just be totally in awe of her, 407 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: right I honestly I'm kind of worried about her because 408 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: I get the same vibs from eight kind of similar, 409 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: you know, right on hither one on one day, she 410 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: was like, you know, she asked me about his previous 411 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: relationships and he was like, well, I had one relationship 412 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: where I couldn't be a big kid anymore. And I 413 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, So it just kind of reminds 414 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: me a little bit of this. Oh and then this 415 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: this episode we find out that Nate just he has 416 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: never brought a girl home, which you know, I don't 417 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: want to fault them for that, Like I wasn't and 418 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: I had never brought in a guy, brought a guy home. Um, 419 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: when I ended up being with Jared, who I met 420 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: on the show, So I can't really fault them for that, 421 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: but there is a lot of inexperience when it comes 422 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: to these guys. I feel, Yeah, and she's already at 423 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: risk for that because she's already said she's somebody who 424 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: just gives everything to the point of almost needing a 425 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: feeding tube. By the way, she said in a episode, 426 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of need this woman to marry 427 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: an adult male. You know, it's actually gonna like pour 428 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: himself into the relationship. So, yeah, he seems Brandon seems 429 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: like really young. He looks really young. He says kind 430 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: of cliche things about love. Um, he's doe eyed. I mean, 431 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: is he's super sweet but totally totally okay good because 432 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like, no hate Brandon Brandon. But like, but I 433 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: don't I don't see this being the longest term thing, Okay. Um, 434 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: then we get to the the Rose ceremony. There's no 435 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: cocktail party. She knows what she's doing. I think we 436 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: all kind of know what she's doing. Um, Ronnie is, 437 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: to me, in my head, the obvious guy who will 438 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: not be making the top three. He is the guy 439 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: who was definitely making who was going to make the 440 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: top four, but definitely the weak link there. And then 441 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: Rick and Ohlu just to me, we're the obvious sent homes. 442 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah, well, I don't know. I was 443 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: between Rick and Ronnie about that's respectable. But I mean 444 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: who used his his time with her speak to talk 445 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: about Martin? So it's almost like he knew he was 446 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: heading out. I don't know. Yeah, no, I agree that 447 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: all right. Well, in the sneak peek, we see a 448 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: lot of dads, but the one dad is still the 449 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: standout from last week, which is the dad who says no, 450 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: he's not ready to get caged. And now that I 451 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: analyze this man's face a little bit more, I okay, 452 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to first ask you whose dad you think 453 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: that is. Oh I thought you were going to be like, 454 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: maybe he was saying he's not ready for dinner or something, 455 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: because they could reconnect that, Um, Nate, I think it's Joe's. 456 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: So now I feel like, so, now I feel like 457 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: you and I have both established that Nate, Nate and 458 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Brandon not ready for marriage. But now we have a 459 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: third and it's the other third guy that she likes 460 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: the most. Of course, Rodney is probably the one that's 461 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: actually ready for marriage. Yeah, I'm worried about Michelle. She's 462 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: so she's one of my favorite leads so far. She's 463 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: doing wonderful. Like she just kind of like thirty enough, 464 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: that would be a good start, Like I hopefully like 465 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three years old, en up for the 466 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: then randoms only twenty six. Okay, so he actually is young. 467 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: He's actually young. Its fault. I mean I was twenty 468 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: six at the beginning of this journey, but I and 469 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: you were young too, were you. We're both twenty six? Okay, yeah, 470 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: but then look like I didn't get married until thirty one, 471 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: and you're not getting married until you're thirty three. No, 472 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: I'm thirty. Okay, I'm not doing the math right because 473 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: our season was like three years after mine. Well, now 474 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: there's so many it just feels like it feels like 475 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: our season it's like ten years ago. There's like a 476 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: million season a year. Yeah. I don't think I was 477 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: reading until this year, and men need an extra five 478 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: years to bake. Usually I could say, probably, all right, well, 479 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: do you have any more thoughts, who do you see 480 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: ending up with her ending up with at the end 481 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: of this an, I'm spoiled, so you are, okay, don't 482 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: spoil me? Okay, Well, thank you so much Jacqueline for 483 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: joining us, and if you guys want more of Jacqueline's 484 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: um thoughts on like really life. Right, you have a 485 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: podcast and it's not just about Bachelor You've had a 486 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Bachelor podcast before, but now what are you talking about 487 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: on your podcast? A Little Help for Our Friends? Yeah, 488 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: so A Little Help for Our Friends is a mental 489 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: health podcast. So we've had a couple of Bachelor Nation 490 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: people on, but it's to talk about mental health related topics. 491 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: So like we had that Clark talk about addiction. Um. 492 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: We had Ben Higgins come on actually and talk about 493 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: his book and loneliness. Um. But really our focus is 494 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: on how mental health is like a system wide problem. 495 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: So it's not just the person experiencing um A disorder, 496 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: it's their friends and family and what they go through 497 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: and how they try to help and that can be 498 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: really frustrating and lonely experience. So um, that's why it's 499 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: caulled A Little Help for Our Friends. It's how can 500 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: you help your friends? Who are struggling. And before we 501 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: let you go, what is one bit of like huge advice, 502 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: like just the advice that you would give to the 503 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: general public. If your friends, UM are going through a 504 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: bad time, UM, definitely to validate. And that doesn't mean 505 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: that you agree with them. It can be you can 506 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: totally disagree with somebody and still validate how they're feeling 507 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: because you're not validating the facts of the situation. You know, 508 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: if they say my life is terrible, I hate everything, 509 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: you're not saying, yeah, your life is terrible. It's it 510 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: must be so hard to to go through your life 511 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: feeling that way. You must be going through so much 512 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: to feel that way, because a lot of the times 513 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: when we try to go in and fix or problem 514 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: solve and usually what people want to feel is heard 515 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: and like they're met um. And so just starting with 516 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: that and really listening can take you very far. All Right, 517 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: that's fantastic advice. Thank you so much, and thank you 518 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: for being here today. It was very fun to bring 519 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: it down with you. Absolutely. Thanks all right, Jacqueline, bye bye. Alright, 520 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: we had to let Jacqueline go, but we have bachelor 521 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: headlines for you guys, and oh MG, are they juicy? 522 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with this one US Weekly headline Michelle Young. 523 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: She says I ended up in a situation I didn't 524 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: expect on The Bachelor at all. Right, so here's the quote. 525 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: She said, I had no idea I would be in 526 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: the position that I was in at the end of 527 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: the season. The ending is something that I didn't necessarily expect, 528 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: something that I didn't think was possible for me. I'm 529 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: excited for everyone to kind of see what it entails, 530 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of assumptions are being made, 531 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, of either who I end up with or 532 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: if I end up with anyone, And when it comes 533 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: down to it, I came into this knowing that I 534 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: was going to stay true to who I was, and 535 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: that means staying true to what your feelings are and 536 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: talking about where you're at with your feelings. I'm a 537 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: person who typically embraces opportunities as they come, and I 538 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: can't pinpoint whether or not I'm going to be in Minnesota, 539 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, next year or the year after that. I 540 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: fully plan to finish out the school year, but I 541 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: don't know what opportunities are going to come my way, 542 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: whether there's somebody I'm involved, whether there's somebody involved in 543 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: my life, whether there's not, that always would be a 544 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: team decision. So I can't say that, yes, I'm going 545 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: to stay in Minnesota for the rest of my life. 546 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: I can say that I'm open to all opportunities. I'll 547 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: take them in, I'll make decisions as I go, and 548 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: I'll make sure that I'm happy with the work I'm doing. 549 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: All right, m hm. To analyze this on my own, 550 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: it sounds as if Michelle is not necessarily staying in Minnesota, 551 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: which I feel in my bones would eliminate Joe as 552 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: being the guy that she ends up with, right because 553 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: if she were to end up with Joe, they would 554 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: definitely be settling in Minnesota. And I wonder what opportunity 555 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: she's speaking of, because I thought I always kind of 556 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: thought that she would want to stick with teaching, But 557 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: maybe she'll want to do other things and then come 558 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: back to teaching down the road. All right, Well, a 559 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 1: lot to analyze there, because she says, when whether I'm 560 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: with somebody or whether I'm not with somebody, I guess 561 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of standard to like keep it open ended 562 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: like that, but she says it's so many times. Now 563 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, does she not end up with anybody? 564 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: I really truly don't know the ending of this, and 565 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm very excited that I think Ben and I are 566 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: in like the third or fourth season where I don't 567 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: know any spoilers. I don't even have to pretend with 568 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: you guys or try to lead you astray, like I 569 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: truly don't know what happens at the end of this, So, 570 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, gracious this the next headline is the 571 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: saddest headline I think I've read on this podcast as 572 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: far as relationships go. In a while, Tassia Adams and 573 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Zach Clark split. They called up their relationship nearly one 574 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: year after their finale aired. US Weekly can confirm the 575 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Tasia Adams and Zach Clark are no longer a couple. 576 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: The news comes three days after Life and Style reported 577 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: that they were on a break, which was which was 578 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: something I was really really hoping was true. It's like, oh, 579 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: a break. You know, we can get over a break, 580 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: but no. People Magazine and US Weekly both reported yesterday 581 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: that they are officially split. I don't think that either 582 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: one of them addressed it on their instagrams yet. Um 583 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: so we'll see, but this comes on the heels of 584 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: them running the New York City Marathon together on November seven. 585 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: We don't have any quotes from the couple or anything 586 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,479 Speaker 1: like that, but I'm sad because I think you guys 587 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: know that over the past couple of years, Zack and 588 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: Zack and Tasia were like the couple that had that 589 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: final moment, you know, that engagement moment that made me 590 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: feel all the fields. It made me feel like it 591 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: was like old school bachelor, where like this was just 592 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: like intense, passionate love. And the way that Tastia said 593 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: that like she had never felt a love like this before, 594 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: like maybe she had never been truly in love before. 595 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's so much in that engagement moment 596 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: and just all the moments leading up to their engagement. 597 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: I just I really really felt that couple, And this 598 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: is very sad. Um So we wish, we wish them 599 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: nothing but the best going forward, and uh, you know, 600 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: give them their privacy. Guys, don't be writing crazy things 601 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: on their instagrams when they do end up announcing on Instagram. Alright, 602 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: Hannah Brown, Wow, she also made some serious headlines this week. 603 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: Uh it's unfortunate that she made these headlines just the 604 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: day after we had Peter Webber on the podcast, because 605 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: she came out about the fact that the two of 606 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: them slept together in the midst of his season airing. 607 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: As far as the details go, he had he had 608 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: dumped or he had I guess, yeah, I guess he 609 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: dumped um Hannah Ann. And after that he ran into 610 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: Hannah at an event, and then it led to her 611 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: just visiting with him and his family at you know, 612 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: the family house outside l A and uh, they had 613 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: sex one night and woke up and had breakfast with 614 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: the family. Immediately, she felt a little off about it, 615 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: but she reveals it in her book and it it's 616 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: been juicy. And then there's another there there's another headline, 617 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: and this is that she hasn't spoken to Tyler Cameron 618 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: pretty much anymore. And it's so wild how we all 619 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: interpreted her hangouts with Tyler at the what is the 620 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: quarantine crew house. We were thinking, you know, oh, this 621 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: is totally romantic, They're totally hooking up, blah blah blah. 622 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: But that was not the way it went at all, 623 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: And she details it all in her new book. God 624 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: bless this Mess, in which she tells everyone that they 625 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: didn't even kiss while they were there. She was, you know, 626 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: kind of like recovering. She was dealing with getting over 627 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: her brother's overdose, that Tyler was getting over the loss 628 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: of his mother, and they she said she was stuck 629 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: in a house of yucky boys when when COVID really 630 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: hit and she was truly just stuck at that house 631 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: until she was able to safely leave. Um. But this 632 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: is also on the heels of his relate, like Tyler's 633 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Gigi. So if you remember this is the 634 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: timeline of Hannah and and Tyler, she ends up with Jed, 635 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: and then on after the Final Rose, when it's announced 636 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: that she's no longer with Jed, she kind of asked 637 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: Tyler out right, and then they go out, they're spotted. 638 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: She thought it was the beginning of something. But just 639 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: a day or two after Tyler was spotted with Gigi 640 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: hadid in New York. And she says in the new book, 641 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: God Bless This Mess, that she was deeply hurt by 642 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: how he handled the situation. Um, they weren't they weren't 643 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: really open with each other, you know, he didn't really 644 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: explain Lane that he was going to go on and 645 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: data supermodel and all that. So six months after that, 646 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: the two of them reconnected at the loss of his 647 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: mom and the overdose of her brother, which was just 648 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: around the beginning of COVID, and that's how she ended 649 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: up in the quarantine house. And even then there was 650 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: no real romance sparked. Okay, Hannah, I'm sure details all 651 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: of this in a podcast that we are releasing today 652 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: with um Wells Atoms. He has filled in for Ben 653 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: and I and interviewed Hannah all about the juicy things 654 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: in her book. So make sure that you look out 655 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: for that special edition of the Almost Amos podcast. Oh wait, 656 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: we can't move on from Hannah Brown and her book yet, 657 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: because now we have a quote from Peter Weber addressing 658 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: the fact that she came out about the secret hook up. 659 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: He said this week, according to to fab I thought 660 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: we were just going to keep it private, but I 661 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: guess that wasn't the case. And I'm totally okay with it. 662 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: It's all good. I don't mind any of this. We 663 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: spent the night together. That was it. That was the 664 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: last time that I saw her physically. All right, Well, 665 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: that's very very nice. Of him to be so understanding 666 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: of of what she reveals in the book. All Right 667 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: and other bachelor news, asterid Lock and Kevin went welcome 668 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: their first child after an IVF journey. She was actually 669 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: we don't know if she or he. They have not 670 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: revealed a gender yet. Um. The baby was born on 671 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: November at two oh two am, and and Kevin said 672 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: that Astroid made his dreams come true. She is my 673 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: absolute hero over everything she went through in the last 674 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: two days of the at the hospital, in the last 675 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: two years of doing everything it took to get this 676 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: perfect munchkin into the went gang. Um. We do not 677 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: have pictures of the baby's face or or the gender, 678 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: so we'll see if that comes up. But congratulations to 679 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: the couple. I'm very happy for them. That is awesome. 680 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: Glad that mama and baby are both very happy and healthy. 681 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: And then you guys, drama in Katie Thurston's world. So 682 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: she does this thing where she like, I'm a little 683 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: confused by this, Okay, I have to be honest, Like 684 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: I skimmed some of this stuff on Instagram. She ended 685 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: up doing something to Taylor Swift's Red album where like 686 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: every day she compared like a contestant or an X 687 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, a contestant from her season or an X 688 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: two her life. She called it the twelve Days of 689 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: Messy Challenge. And at the end of this shed she 690 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: kind of reveals that she's with this guy John, who 691 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: I believe she eliminated week three of her season. Um, 692 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: she refers to her relationship with Blake Moyne's who she 693 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: just you know, announced her breakup with in October. That 694 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: was we are never getting back together. Supposedly that was 695 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: That's the song that she's referencing him. And then begin 696 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: again she assigns to this guy John, which we can 697 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: only imagine means that she's beginning a romantic life again 698 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: with this guy John so wild, like I mind blown. 699 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: It raises a whole bunch of questions, like was her 700 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: friendship with John like too intense for Blake to stick around? Um? 701 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: Was her feelings for this guy John the reason that 702 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: she broke up with Blake? Like? I hope all this 703 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: comes out, I mean, if she would, She's she's gonna 704 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: follow Taylor Swift's lead here. She's got to give us 705 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: some sort of hint to it, right, because Taylor may 706 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: not say everything Verbatia. But she she leads us in 707 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: a certain direction, alright, So Katie Thurston, give us more 708 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: hints at what actually went on between this Blake John 709 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: Love triangle. Okay. And lastly, Brendan Morris and Piper updated 710 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: fans on their relationship. If you guys remember, I guess 711 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: like a month or two ago, they said that they 712 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: had gone their separate ways, but in a new Instagram post, 713 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: it seems as if the two have reunited. The past 714 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: few months have been interesting, to say the least, Brendan 715 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: says on Instagram, A love forming between two people in 716 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: the midst of Mayhem is certainly a unique way to 717 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: begin a relationship. We've had our ups and downs, our 718 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: peaks and valleys, but what has prevailed is a special 719 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: bond through God's grace and love. I remain thankful, looking 720 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: forward to growing together and the lessons and love will 721 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: experience along the way. Piper also took to Instagram to 722 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: say love is patient and kind. Thankful for you Brendan. 723 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: Every day I look forward to growing and learning more 724 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: and more together. Well, you know what, guys, if this 725 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: is true love, we can't be mad at anymore? Right, 726 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: And it's happening not on TV, so again, can't be 727 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: mad at it anymore. They're not messing with anybody else anymore. 728 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: All Right, Well, that is it for this episode of 729 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: Almost Famous. I hope you guys are not, you know, 730 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: thoroughly annoyed by just listening to my voice for the 731 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: past twenty minutes, because I would be. But I love 732 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: you so much and I'm so glad that you listen 733 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: to our podcast net this week you'll hear the voice 734 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: of an angel, Ben Higgins over all over again. I 735 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: can't wait to get the details on their honeymoon. Until then, 736 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been Ashley by guys. Follow the Benn and Ashley 737 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe 738 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts.