1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us as we roll through 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: what is as always a bit of a wild ride 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: into the world. Every day it feels like things crazy 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: that you don't necessarily anticipate. We got Chris Christy and 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: we also have Mike Pence joining the race this week. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: We will discuss the impact of what might transpire there. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: But we tease this off the top, Buck, and I'm 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: gonna give you a little bit of a background. I 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: bet there's a lot of questions about this eight hundred 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: and two eight two two eight a two. The PGA 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: and the Live Golf Tour are merging. I would describe 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: this as blockbuster news that came down about ten am 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Eastern this morning. Here's a good question for you, right 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: off the top, Buck, what percentage of our audience do 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: you think are golfers? Thirty forty Yeah, thirty percent maybe. 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty high percentage. So I think 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of you that are fascinated by this story. 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: For those of you who are not, let me give you. 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Is that crazy about it's thirty way too high? Or 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: is that that seems about right? I think right? 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Probably, I would think that there is a massive overlap 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: between this show and golf. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I just if I. 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: Had to bet on any sport like obviously the NFL's huge. 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: College football is huge. Football in general in this country 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: is huge. But if I had to bet, I would 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: I would put a lot of money on there being 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: a huge number of you even that are listening to 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: us right now as you drive to or from the 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: golf course, as you get out and work on the range. 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: I would think there is a huge overlap. I know 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: for a fact that OutKick and the golf universe are 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: basically one and the same, right, There's just a huge 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: overlap of people that are interested in golf and also 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: read out Kick on a regular basis. So Buck, let 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: me tie it into Trump here off the top. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: You and I last year in July. 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Were with Trump at Bedminster for the Live Golf event. 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: I played the Live Golf event there, and let me 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: give you a little bit. I don't know that I 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: said this on the show. I stayed at the Live 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Golf hotel the night before the Live Golf pro am right. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: I played with Brooks Keepka. I nearly killed him with 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: one of my errant shots. He's lucky to be alive. 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a father now. So 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't end his bid for fatherhood when 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: he almost got blindsided by one of my awful shots 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: out there at Bedminster. But the reason why I bring 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: this up is the night before the tournament officially got underway, 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: I was sitting at the bar at the hotel and 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: all of these you remember this buck, all of these 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: nine to eleven protesters walked in and they were saying 56 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: that anybody who had gone to work at Live wor 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: taking blood money, that this was unacceptable. And I was 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: sitting at the bar just having a beer with several 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: different Live Golf executives and players, and a couple of 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: these dudes came in and they were like, Oh, you're 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: you're going to play in this course. Don't you feel 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: awful for yourself? How could you take blood money? First 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: of all, I wasn't being paid anything. 64 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: I was just. 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Playing in the course and we were doing our show 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: with Trump, and I believe we have audio of PGA 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Tour Commissioner Jay Monaghan effectively saying anybody that went to 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: work for Live was standing alongside of the nine to 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: eleven terrorists. 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Effectively, here's that audio. 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: Well, I talked to players, I've talked at a player meeting, 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: and I've talked to a number of players individually for 73 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: a long period of time. And I think you'd have 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: to be living under a rock to not know that 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: there are significant implications. And as it relates to the 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: families of nine to eleven, I have two families that 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: are close to me that lost loved ones, and so 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: my heart goes out to them. And I would ask, 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: you know, any player that has left, or any player 80 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: that would ever consider leaving, have you ever had to 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: apologize for being a member of the PGA Tour? 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: Okay Buck, I mean that's pretty aggressive to say. Basically, 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: you're turning your back on nine to eleven victims if 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: you're deciding to play on the Live Tour. Here's what's significant. 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: There are reports that a guy like Tiger Woods Buck 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: turned down seven hundred and fifty million dollars to stay 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: with the PGA Tour. Now the PGA Tour itself, which 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: tried to keep its players from joining the Live tour 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: is now in partnership directly with the Saudis themselves. You're 90 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: not even a hardcore golf guy or certainly a sports fan, 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: but that hypocrisy has to even kind to blow your 92 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: mind a little bit. 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Right, money talks, I mean, at the end of the day, 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the Saudis are there's really no money like oil money, 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: because even if let's say the Saudis ran their treasury 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: down to zero tomorrow, not that that's going to happen, 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: but they have free money that just comes out of 98 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the ground, and it's money, and it's it's a substance 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: oil that the entire world needs. The world economy, the 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: global economy functions only because of hydrocarbons. Despite what all 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: the lunatic leftists and you see these what is it 102 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: like stop oil protesters in the UK's people are They're 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: they're grasping at at a religion that is rooted in lunacy. 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: And that's what this climate oil stuff, a climate change 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: oil hydrocarbon opposition is all about. But bring it back 106 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: to the sports side of things. You know, I'm trying 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: to think of something to say about the PGA tour. 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I know nothing about the PGA tour, but I know 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: that divesting from from Saudi entirely is effectively impossible. I mean, 110 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: what is it over twelve thirteen, fourteen percent something like 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: that of global oil output every day comes from Saudi Arabia. 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: So unless you want the world to be markedly poorer, 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you're doing business with the Saudis. You just don't know it, 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: because the world economy functions on oil, So I don't 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: know what you know. I also kind of wonder what 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: the it's easy for people to talk a big game 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: about Saudi Arabia. Here's how I can't add to this 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: conversation because I knew enough. I have never watched a 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: golf on TV. 120 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: Event in my entire lifense. I don't even know how 121 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: that's possible. You have never watched any golf tournament it is, 122 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I could think of nothing, you know what. I'm just 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: not I'm going to hold my opinions back on televised golf. 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: My dad loves golf, so there are sextons who love 125 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: My dad loves golf. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: He's all about it. So I'll just keep this. I'll 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: keep my golf eyes too. I remember love playing golf. 128 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm awful at it, but I'll watch it on TV too. 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. But remember when there was that 130 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: that guy who was assassinated by the Saudi you know, 131 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: they basically Saudi hit squad and they chopped up the 132 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: body and they were saying, you know, Kashogian, Mohammed bin 133 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Salmon was all of a sudden persona non grada. What 134 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: are we gonna do? You know what everybody did about 135 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: that Democrat and Republican you know what really happened as 136 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: a result of that. Nothing? Yeah, nothing. So all the 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: talk and all the editorials and all the no one 138 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: did a damn thing. They use it to blame Trump 139 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: because it happened under you know, Trump had nothing to 140 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: do with any of it. But they're like, why don't 141 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: you just you know, get all get into it with 142 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. You know why because we 143 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: need the oil still, And that's really what it comes 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: down to you at the end of the day. The 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: global market needs oil, so we we try. And the 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: relationship with Saudi Arabia that the US has has been 147 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: getting better in recent years, so it's easy to play 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: to talk tough about the Saudis. But they got a 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: lot of money, and no one's going to do anything 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: about the Saudis really, So that's what I see from 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: a geopolitical side of the Live Golf PGA Merger. 152 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: I think we have audio from me talking about this 153 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: a year ago. This was on Fox News. My perspective 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: on this has always been Buck, as long as you 155 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: don't lecture me about politics, I don't have any issue 156 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: at all with you making money from countries that have 157 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: different values than the United States. But when you lecture 158 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: me as many athletes do, and as the PGA tried 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: to do, Oh how dare you take Saudi money and 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: meanwhile you got the NBA making money from China Chinese money. 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that's what I'm saying. The whole thing 162 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. 163 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: And I'll also point out that there was way more 164 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: criticism of these golfers for interacting with Saudi Arabia than 165 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: Buck there was for Joe Biden. Remember last year he 166 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: went to Saudi Arabia and begged for more oil because 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: oil prices were so high last summer. Here's an audio 168 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: clip of that discussion, I believe from last year on 169 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: Fox News. Ultimately, as the Live tour continues to grow 170 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: and as the PGA Tour shrinks, this is going to 171 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: turn into a legitimate battle royale between these two big 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: golf entities. 173 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: I think the Live Tour. 174 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 4: Given their backing from the Saudis, they have money to 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: be able to go for a long time. Eventually, the 176 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: PGA and the Live Tour are going to have to 177 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: sue for peace. It's going to be like the AFL 178 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: and the NFL. For those people out there who remember 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: when the NFL had a charging league, challenging league and 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: ended up merging together. 181 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: That was a year ago. That is perfect. 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Can we get that clip so I could share it 183 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: too on social because I couldn't find it myself. Good 184 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: job by the staff. Trump also built on this and 185 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: made the same prediction. He ended up being one hundred 186 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: percent right. That is now echoing around. But Buck, I 187 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: think what is so interesting about this is this is 188 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: part of the larger global behem at the going on. 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: And I would even tie it into bud Light. I 190 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: would tie it into Target. There's a good article up 191 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Bobby Barracket out Kick wrote it. You know everybody changes 192 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: all these big companies. Buck changed their logo for Pride 193 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Month for their United States based branding the same companies 194 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: that do business in other parts of the world. They 195 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: have the same Twitter account, but it's like, I don't 196 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: know Anheuser Busch Mideast or something, right, just throwing it 197 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: out there. They never change the logo, so the same 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: these multinational businesses make no mistake that they are selling 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: artificial bills of good to you when they say, oh, 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: we're all about pride. The NBA is a great example. 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: You know, the NBA is going to do a game 202 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: buck in the UAE where if you are found to 203 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: be gay, do you know what they can do? They 204 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: can behead you. So the NBA lectures all of us 205 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: and they wag their fingers in They're like, how dare 206 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: there be a transgender bathroom bill? And then they go 207 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: take the money of the UAE where if you just 208 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: are gay, you're allowed to be beheaded. This corporate bs Again. 209 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: If your goal is just hey, we're gonna make as 210 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: much money, will follow the laws everywhere we can do business, 211 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: I get it, but the hypocrisy on this is staggering. 212 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Well, China is also a much bigger concern for America's future. 213 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: It's safety, it's pre eminence than Saudi Arabia is it's 214 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: not even close. I mean by a factor of one hundred. 215 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: And the Saudis provide the world with with with oil effectively, 216 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: and there was a period there where a lot of 217 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: the and this is now bringing me back to the 218 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: old days, a lot of the Wahabism and Islamic radicalism 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: jihadism was funded by Saudi oil money, and that obviously 220 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: ties directly into nine to eleven. And I understand why 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: there's why there's still a lot of anger because there 222 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: really was never any Saudi accountability for that. In fact, 223 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: there's still to this day some classified stuff around Saudi 224 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: knowledge of or any any complicity in by any Saudi 225 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: official what happened on nine elevens. I'm very aware of 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: all of that. But you also have to deal with 227 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the world as it is today and what have we 228 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: seen with Russia. With Russia, we tried to take a 229 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: moral stance. And people will argue that Ukraine is a 230 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: geopolitical win for us or something if we help it, 231 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: But really it's a moral stance that the Biden administration 232 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: has taken, which is Russia is bad, Russia invaded, we 233 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: have to help Ukraine, and we're going to attack them economically. 234 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: What we found out is that when you have a 235 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: whole lot of natural gas, a whole lot of oil, 236 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: a whole lot of fertilizer, a number of inputs that 237 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the global economy needs, it's going to get it. You're 238 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: going to sell it. People are going to buy it 239 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: from you, and so we need to be realistic about 240 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: what's possible and what's not when you're talking about boycotts. 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: But the perfect example is always any anything that is 242 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: woke in corporate America that is doing business in China. 243 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: They're always like, well, I can't say anything about China 244 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: because that would really hurt my profits over there. But 245 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: you know, here, I'm really really brave. The NBA is 246 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: probably the most obvious and pathetic example of this, but 247 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: there are many others as well, Disney and so many 248 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: companies out there, so you know, maybe, uh, maybe I'll 249 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: be watching my first Well are they going to change 250 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: the name or is it going to stay as the 251 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: PGA do we know? It's a great question. 252 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the I think it's still 253 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: going to be the PGA Tour, But it's a great 254 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: question that there doesn't seem to be a lot of 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: definite knowledge. I mean, they went on CNBC, but it's 256 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: it's always when they do these mergers, you know, they 257 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: end up like the PGA Tour presented by Live Golf, 258 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: you know, like they tried. 259 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I was going to say the PGA Tour sponsored by 260 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Saudi Ramco whatever. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, we'll see, 261 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. Everybody, all right, some of 262 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: the best moments in life that you've got are sort 263 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: away Unfortunately, some of those memories are all on VHS tapes, 264 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: They're on old photos. 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Welcome back 290 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: in to Clay and Buck. An important update. An important update. 291 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: I am the voice of the DM Brigade here to 292 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: Clay because he was he was talking some rough stuff 293 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: to some of the DM tipsters from it was you know, 294 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: he was throwing bud lights around. 295 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: He was saying, who wants one? I was saying, hold 296 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: on a second, buddy, hold on a second, Clay share 297 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: the update. Let's be fair minded. What did your DM 298 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: tipsters tell you in response to you calling them out? 299 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: So first hour we were making fun of the fact 300 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: that Joybayhar was not on with Tim Scott when Tim 301 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: Scott lacerated the view yesterday. We played that clip for. 302 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: You, and I stand by the analysis even with but 303 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: keep going. 304 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: And a bunch of people jumped in my dms, and 305 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: I have open dms, so. 306 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: I will scroll through a lot of times. I don't click. 307 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: But like I said, a lot of the dms I 308 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: get not going to surprise you are from woke left 309 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: wing people who want to attack me. But occasionally I 310 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: get good tips and it's fast. 311 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I've never in my whole life, because I wasn't always 312 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: in media, you know, I was a normal you know, 313 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: like everyday guy, well Cia, but whatever is you know, 314 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: doing the normal stuff. I've never written an angry message 315 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: or email to a stranger in my life. I don't 316 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: understand these hateful things now. It is. 317 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: It is a really I don't know what percentage of 318 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: people do it, but I would say maybe five to 319 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: ten percent of the American public. Is the kind of 320 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: person who would send an angry email or tweet or whatever, 321 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: because I do think it's a small minority, because I 322 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: think most people are busy and don't have time to 323 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: lash out at strangers over things that that that you 324 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: know that they're upset by. But I have open dms 325 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: because sometimes we get tips on stories. Sometimes people reach 326 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: out and otherwise wouldn't be able to get in touch 327 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: with me. Okay, So I made fun of how many 328 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: people were reaching out and say enjoy behar was. 329 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Off to a word Buck, and I give them credit. 330 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: Almost every single one of those guys immediately responded, we 331 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: appreciate you listening to the show and said, hey, I 332 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: only know it because I watched Gut Film last night 333 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: and they made a big, a big to do about 334 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: the fact that Joy was not on. 335 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: So Gutt felt great show. Buck and I both enjoyed 336 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: doing it. 337 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: So I will rescind my criticism of all of your masculinity. 338 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: You don't drink bud lights, you. 339 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Do have do we go Mickel? What's the what's the 340 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: upgraded beer? Clay? Oh, I'm a Guinness guy. 341 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: I really like Guinness and also my beer Gratis, which 342 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: is available in Tennessee and I would encourage you guys 343 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: to try that too. 344 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: I will sounds like a plan to me. So, gun 345 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: owners out there, how important is it that you stay 346 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: well trained and familiar with your firearms. 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Yesterday we talked about christ Un Nunu, current 366 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: governor of New Hampshire, and the way that he announced 367 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: that he was not going to be going after the 368 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four nomination in the Republican primary. He announced 369 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: with both CNN and the Washington Post, and then he 370 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: continued his tour of left wing media outlets by going 371 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: on with Jensaki on MSNBC. Now, we said, all these 372 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: people hate us, They're not going to be friendly, they're 373 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: not going to be fair, and not surprisingly, Jensaki tried 374 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: to argue that Russia collusion happened in twenty sixteen. But 375 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to give credit to Kristun Nunu for pushing 376 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: back against that lie yesterday on MSNBC. 377 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: Here's what it sounded like. 378 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: You've all created a situation where, God, what what kind 379 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: of planet are we own? 380 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: Where Donald Trump's become the victim. Well, I think nobody believes, 381 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: it believes. 382 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: We know. 383 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: I have to stop you on there, because we know 384 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 6: very clearly that Putin and the Kremlin did intervene in 385 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: our election in order to try to help Donald Trump 386 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 6: back in twenty sixteen, so we know that is true, 387 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 6: but you may think that they shouldn't engage in this 388 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: as a messaging tool because. 389 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: It's not helpful to them. 390 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: Is that what you're saying? 391 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to re relitigate, you know, the 392 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: Russian collusion nonsense that went on for two years. 393 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Investigations, but nobody, but nobody, but nobody buys that any 394 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: attack on Trump isn't anything but political. 395 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Can you believe that Jinsaki is still trying to sell 396 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: the Russia collusion? Why live on MSNBC And I give 397 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: credit for Chris Nudhu for saying that's not true. 398 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Democrat base still believes that. You notice the 399 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: language that she uses. It's it's very specific that that 400 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: putin intervened in the election? What does that mean exactly? 401 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: And what you'd find is that how it translates still 402 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: to a large percentage of the Democrat base. You know, 403 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: the same Democrats who go on TV to tell us 404 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: all the time, you don't accept the results of elections, 405 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: while they still live in this fantasy land about twenty sixteen. 406 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Intervention in an election is so broad as to be meaningless, 407 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and this is a tactic of propaganda it's really a 408 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: magnification error. Right. So what happens is, you know, I 409 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: could take a I could take a bucket of you know, 410 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: boiling water and pour it into a swimming pool and say, 411 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: I just can't change the temperature of the swimming pool. No, 412 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: you didn't. Doesn't do anything. It's way too big, it's 413 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: not noticeable, it has no effect whatsoever. What they're saying 414 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: is because some Russian bots bought some Facebook ads or something. 415 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: I think they said it was, what was it, one 416 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. What they ended up finding, which on Facebook, 417 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: is you know, nothing that's so key that that change 418 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: the result of the election in some capacity. I mean, 419 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: that's it's outrageous. And you also have to remember that 420 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: this was all going on at a time when the 421 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: FBI was actively trying to undermine a political candidate by 422 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: investigating him for the very collusion that did not exist. 423 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: But this is a fantasy that they will not let 424 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: go because the fantasy of Russia collusion gives the Libs 425 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: the imaginary moral high ground because of the imaginary crime 426 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: that was committed. Yeah, and you're smart and astute to 427 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: point out intervene. Thank you. 428 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: The work that she's trying to use by using the 429 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: word intervene there, right, because intervened, to most people out there, implies, oh, 430 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: you intervened in a significant way. What she's saying is 431 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Russia intervened in the twenty sixteen election by spending roughly 432 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars on Facebook ads. Now, keep in 433 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: mind there were billions of dollars spent, billions of dollars 434 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: spent by both candidates Republicans, Democrats, all the political action 435 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: committees on the twenty sixteen election. If Russia impacted the 436 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: election in any way by the one hundred thousand dollars 437 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: they spent, it is the greatest one hundred thousand dollars 438 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: spent in the history of American political campaigns. Okay, the 439 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: reality is that that is such a pinprick of spending. 440 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: And I know a little bit about this because I 441 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: ran a media company. You can't really influence anyone in 442 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: any kind of significant way on Facebook by spending one 443 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. 444 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: You just can't. It's impossible. 445 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: And so what she is trying to do there is 446 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: claim that it's collusion, first of all, which is still 447 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: not true because she's using the word intervene to try 448 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: to make that a significant claim. 449 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: That's right, but a better way I put this forget 450 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: about my pool analogy. Think of this in terms of 451 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: there is in every national election, and put aside everyone's 452 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: feelings on twenty twenty for a second. Here, there's always 453 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: some fraud. There's always some fraud that someone and sometimes 454 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: it's incidental or meaning someone you know votes in the 455 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: wrong they vote in the wrong state, or they you know, 456 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: there's always some fraud. There are one hundred and fifty 457 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: million ballots that are cast. Is it right if I 458 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: were to say, well, you know, we got three people 459 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: indicted on double voting in the you know, twenty twelve election, 460 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: so that whole election doesn't count. That's effectively what they 461 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: do with the Russia collusion lie. They find the basis 462 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: for the most minor, the smallest possible thing. Or another 463 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: version of this would be you know, Clay have you 464 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: ever jaywalked? Yeah, all the time, all the time, Clay Travis. 465 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: If I ran around it, if someone ran around saying 466 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: Clay Travis is a criminal, he's a criminal. I mean, 467 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: it's in the most technical kind of way, somewhat true. 468 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: But it's a massive magnification distortion, a magnification error, and 469 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what they do with Russia collusion. It's 470 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: just it's looney tune stuff. But they have not If 471 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: anyone thinks they've given up, they have absolutely not given up, 472 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: and they have not admitted they were wrong. 473 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: Buck, It's funny you mentioned the jaywalking thing. Just by 474 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: the way, Ah, that's true. There used to be I 475 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: don't know if he's still there. There used to be 476 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: a cop on Capitol Hill, and there will be people 477 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: who worked in Congress around the two thousand era, and 478 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how long he kept doing this. He 479 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: was the most zealous jaywalking monitor that I've ever seen 480 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: in my life. I was an intern on Capitol Hill 481 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: when I went to GW Undergrad, and the number of 482 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: times that guy stopped me for jaywalking, right, and by 483 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: the way, jaywalking is just there's nobody on the street 484 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: at all, and you're gonna cross the street to hop 485 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: on the DC Metro or whatever. The number of times 486 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: that guy stopped me, I bet he stopped me five 487 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: or six times. And now eventually went in the office, 488 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, am I am I crazy? Or 489 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: is there a Capitol Hill police officer who goes after 490 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: jaywalkers the likes of which you have never seen before? 491 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: And around two thousand in ninety seven to two thousand. 492 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: I bet if you're on Capitol Hill and you're listening 493 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: to us right now, you will be like, oh my god, 494 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: I totally forgot about this guy. I've never seen a 495 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: cop be that committed to keeping people from jaywalking. Buck, 496 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: And well, you're looking. 497 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: We're in a maga hat. He might have locked you 498 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: up in the goo line. 499 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Jan, when I see the Jan six prisoners, 500 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, there might be a history of Clay Travis 501 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: jaywalking violations from around circa ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine, 502 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: before the turn of pre turn of the century. Now 503 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: as they say it, but that guy was the greatest, 504 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: most Looney Tunes jaywalking cop that I have ever seen 505 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: in my life. So yes, there may be documented records 506 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: of me being a jaywalker. 507 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: I am, in that respect, a criminal, A smooth criminal indeed, sir. 508 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: So there you go. 509 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting the Michael Jackson reference. That's gonna be 510 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: a Media Matters headline later. Buck Sexton praises TV it 511 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: sexual assaulter Michael Jacks' it unthresnded an attack upon American 512 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: moral virtue. 513 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: I do ask people sometimes, I'm like, do do we 514 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: just did we just decide we're not? Because sometimes I'll 515 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: hear Michael Jackson songs at a party and I'm like, 516 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: is everyone okay with this? Or where are we on this? 517 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, everybody stopped R Kelly, But I think 518 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: that was a function of R. Kelly's music wasn't really 519 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: that good. I don't think anybody's canceled with Michael Jackson. 520 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: I still hear Michael Jackson all the time. It just 521 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: didn't work. His music was I always say, buck, as 522 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: long as your talent exceeds your problems, you're okay. 523 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Right. 524 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson's talent, even with the allegations against him, exceeded 525 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: his problems. 526 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Also, he died before he was ever. 527 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: Convicted of anything, which is I think also what others 528 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: point to. I watched that Finding Neverland doc. That was 529 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: a tough watch. I'm not gonna lie. 530 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through it. Yeah, I couldn't get through it. 531 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: It was just because it was so it was so 532 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: hard to watch, and it just was like I can't. 533 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: And also it feels unfair on some level just to me, 534 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: when someone dies and they aren't able to defend themselves 535 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: at all, and then you come back and just to 536 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: viscerate them, and there isn't really anybody there to speak 537 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: out in your favor that I watched it. If it's true, 538 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: it's awful. But uh but man, that is a uh 539 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: a scenario where I think his music's going to go 540 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: on just because it's so good, irrespective of what the 541 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: artist may have done in his past life. 542 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: We'll see. 543 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: I also think this is a tough question for the 544 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: woke universe out there, because pretty much every artist, if 545 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: you go through every aspect of their life, whether it's literature, 546 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: whether it's whether you know, painting, whether it's music, they 547 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: have something pretty bad, right, Like. 548 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: It's targeted, like Coso drive two of his wives to 549 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: suicide and was like abusive and horrible. I mean, you 550 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: go back, you look at a lot of yeah, bad things. 551 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Van Go wasn't exactly a guy that you'd 552 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: want to bring home to mom and dad. If you're 553 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: if you're out there in the dating universe, right, I mean, 554 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to find artists who are completely clean, 555 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: especially given the air in which we live in today. 556 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: I guess what, Getting exercise it's hard. You got a 557 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: lot going on, but I'm making time for it. 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Thank you everybody for tuning and 593 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: listening in eight hundred. 594 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: I just really you such an apologist for Michael Jackson. 595 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, when I see this media matters, here're the 596 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: one who. 597 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Says this music should be allD on, Settle down, Settle down, 598 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: slander machine. You're the one who says the music stays forever. Okay, 599 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I just made a lyric reference. I think his music 600 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: is overrated. I think he has a couple of very 601 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: good songs, but I think overall, without the medium of MTV, 602 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson doesn't become the superstar that he was at 603 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: the time. I think Mikey Jackson and Madonna were made 604 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: by MTV. I'm just telling you. 605 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: I think Michael Jackson in particular is stud. You can 606 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: go all the way back to the Jackson five in 607 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: terms of his media matters. Is I mean you got 608 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: Valu using the word stud. Is the thing that you've 609 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: gotten attacked. We're coming up on the two year anniversary 610 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: of the show, by the way, since we took over. 611 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Is the thing you've gotten attacked for the most in 612 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: the two years of the show, your Simone Biles take. 613 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Bye by lib media. Yeah, not by not by like 614 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: people actually listening or any you know, anyone who disagree 615 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: with me on something. 616 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: But I mean in oracles that have been written other 617 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: than your mask thing in Asheville, North Carolina, but something 618 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: you actually said on the show. 619 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: But I was one hundred percent right on that and 620 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: everybody knows that. So the only people that disagree with 621 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: me on the mask thing or lunatics who can't read 622 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: and think. But in terms of the Simone Biles, but 623 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: I was still right just putting that out there. It 624 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: was the whole thing was so oh, you know, it's amazing. 625 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's not it's fine. It's fine, but 626 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: we don't usually anyway. I know what you're not making, Travis. 627 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: You're not bringing me down that pathway again. Buddy, You're 628 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: just gonna get all the all the Libs getting all 629 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: angry at me, you know, like, oh, let's say you 630 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: do a backflip. I'm like, no, I'm a radio host. 631 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: I talk. That's what I do. All right? Uh Shiva 632 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? You're up, shitva? What's going on? 633 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: Hey guys, how are you great? 634 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: How are you? We are good? 635 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 7: I'm good. So I heard your show. 636 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 8: First of all, thank you for you know, everything you do. 637 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 8: I'm a former LIB. 638 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 7: Voted for you know, Clinton and Biden, and you guys 639 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: have been instrumental in opening up my eyes in the 640 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 7: last couple of years. It was calling because I heard 641 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 7: your show yesterday and you know, you were kind of 642 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 7: disappointed at the Governor of New Hampshire's and you were like, 643 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 7: this is not the time to say we don't want Trump, 644 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 7: and I just wanted to give you a different perspective 645 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 7: on it. I think it's cor cool Is to win 646 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 7: the general election. The general election is going to be 647 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 7: won by Independence and people like me who've switched over. 648 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 7: And I think that if we have fifty five different 649 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 7: people running against Trump, the Trump is is going to 650 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 7: get the thirty five percent and he'll become the nominee 651 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 7: because the rest of the vote, the rest of seventy percent, 652 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 7: will get split between everyone else, and then it's going 653 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 7: to be a lot harder to convince Independence and people 654 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 7: like me to vote for Trump versus voting for like 655 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 7: the Santists or Nikki Haley or someone like that. 656 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: So okay, So I'm fascinated. Sorry to cut you off, Shiva. 657 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: Did you vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty? I did, Okay, 658 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: So okay, So unfortunately, no day. 659 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: To welcome to the revolution. We're happy to have you, okay. 660 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: So what made you change your mind in the last 661 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: two years such that in twenty twenty you were open 662 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 2: for voting for UH for Biden and did it. And also, so, 663 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: how old are you and you say you wouldn't vote 664 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: for Trump necessarily in twenty four does that mean you 665 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: would vote for Biden again if they rematched or you 666 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: would just sit out? And what I'm asking how old 667 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: you are? 668 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: Clear holds. I'm kind of I'm kind of fascinated by this. 669 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm kind of lady in terms of whether you're speaking 670 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: not only for yourself but some of your other friends. 671 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 7: I am. 672 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I am thirty nine. I've got two small kids, 673 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 9: and I think the thing that switched, you know, made 674 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 9: me switch over and question everything with COVID. You know, 675 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 9: we have a lot of friends who I have a 676 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 9: lot of friends whose kids were in preschool, who started 677 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 9: preschool at the beginning of COVID, and it was ridiculous 678 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 9: that are like two three year olds has to go 679 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 9: to school with a mask, and like to this day, 680 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 9: we still have to test our kids after every you know, 681 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 9: spring break or whatever. And it's just like, you know, 682 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 9: it started to defy logic at a certain point, and 683 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 9: then the whole like mandating a shot that wasn't even 684 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 9: fully tested, but people who weren't even at a risk. 685 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 9: It just it started to make me question it, and 686 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 9: then the more I looked into it, the more it 687 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 9: didn't make sense. And now a lot of the moms 688 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 9: you know here, especially in LA, are concerned about the 689 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 9: whole gender identity thing in schools, but nobody feels comfortable 690 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 9: talking about it. 691 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 8: Because if you do, you get labeled. You know, you 692 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 8: might not be able to get your kids admitted to 693 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 8: like private schools. You know, you'll just be ostracized whatever, 694 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 8: People will look down on you. So a lot of 695 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 8: people are just kind of going along pretending like they're 696 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 8: okay with it, but like when we talk amongst ourselves, 697 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 8: everyone's outraged. So I feel like the DeSantis thing is 698 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 8: huge for moms for independence. I think, you know, it's 699 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 8: I think that there's a lot of people who are 700 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 8: going to have a problem voting for another, you know, 701 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 8: eighty year old who's going to follow the past. 702 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: So this was an an excellent call. Thank you so 703 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: much for sharing. One thing I would say, just in 704 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: response to your initial uh, you know, you're you're saying 705 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: a different perspective on this new new thing, and I 706 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you are just giving a different perspective, and that's 707 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: totally cool. 708 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 709 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: I just felt like the way sin who who framed it, 710 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: lost sight of the ultimate goal here is to be Biden. 711 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: The ultimate goal for any Republican should not be to 712 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: make sure Trump is not the ultimate goal to be sure. 713 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: So it fell to me like a little bit of 714 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: a misapplied focus for somebody who seriously wants to stop 715 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things that the Democrats are doing to 716 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: the country right now of a clay on the totalitarianism point, 717 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: or rather the COVID point, which I says totalitarian, I'm hoping. 718 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm still hopeful. There are a lot of people out 719 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: there who are just like Shiva. 720 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm so fascinated by her perspective. She 721 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: called in the only other thing I would have. She 722 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: didn't answer if she would still vote Biden in twenty 723 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: twenty four, if it was a rematch against Trump, and 724 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: how her friends might vote. But it's the thirty nine 725 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: year old Ish moms, probably suburban moms, who are going 726 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: to decide this election. There are a lot of Shivas 727 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: out there. 728 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: How do you win them? That's the question.