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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode ten of the Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory Podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowlands, coming to

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Speaker 1: you on a Sunday evening into Monday here in mid May,

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Speaker 1: and we are part of the Foul Territory Network. Go

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Speaker 1: ahead and subscribe to this podcast anywhere you might find

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Speaker 1: your podcasts that includes Apple and Spotify as well as overcasts,

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Speaker 1: and again anywhere you might find the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have tons of contact this week, including an episode

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Speaker 1: The Idea with Chris Willis a Battery Power on Wednesday. Also,

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Speaker 1: my colleagues Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman talked in two

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Speaker 1: different occasions in the last couple of days, including a

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Speaker 1: very fun, informative, interesting rivening visit from ESPN's Buster Olney

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Speaker 1: on Friday. So if you miss that recent episode and

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Speaker 1: this podcast feed and I definitely recommend listening to all

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Speaker 1: of that is still very relevant right now, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of talk about the struggling offense as well as some history,

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Speaker 1: some rumor stuff from Buster and definitely worth to listen

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Speaker 1: to be sure. And then on today's podcast, I'll actually

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Speaker 1: be joined in a few moments by a special guest

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Speaker 1: and that is Garrett Spain of Battery Power and PAHDA

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Speaker 1: Prospects talk all about the Braves farm system. I am

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Speaker 1: not an expert on that, but that's why I run

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Speaker 1: in an expert who actually is, and that is Garrett Spain.

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Speaker 1: So first though, I'm gonna go solo a little bit

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes here at the top of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: My usual co host Scott Coleman is still gallivanting out

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Speaker 1: of the country for a little while longer. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, FYI, I'm recording this on Sunday evening, so

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind because the Braves have two games

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Speaker 1: on Monday, including an early afternoon game on Monday afternoon

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, So we'll cover those games later on this week.

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Speaker 1: But with all that said, we'll dive into the last

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Speaker 1: two games, which were both losses for the Braves and

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Speaker 1: not lost three games in a row actually, and there

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Speaker 1: are now twenty six and sixteen on the season. Friday's

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Speaker 1: game was relatively normal as far as a loss is concerned.

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Speaker 1: Max Free was not his best. He was chased forward

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Speaker 1: the end of the fifth inning two strikeouts, not great

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Speaker 1: for him. Free walks, nine hits allowed. The bullpen was

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Speaker 1: fantastic for the Braves on Friday evening despite the loss,

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Speaker 1: the Patterres had thirteen hits in the game and all

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Speaker 1: of them, every single one was a single. So it

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Speaker 1: was like that I absolutely bludgeoned on Friday. But the

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Speaker 1: offense was not great, as we'll talk about again in

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Speaker 1: a second. They had seven hits, free walks, and not

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Speaker 1: a ton going on there offensively. The only other sort

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Speaker 1: of news and note thing is that Travis Arnaut was

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Speaker 1: removed from that game on Friday with dizziness, and he

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Speaker 1: if you' not remembering this, is that he's actually had

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Speaker 1: some extensive concussion issues in his career, as many as

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Speaker 1: four concussions, so they were being very careful with him.

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Speaker 1: They did say quickly that it was not a concussion,

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Speaker 1: so that's obviously a positive. He was not in the

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Speaker 1: So Paul that said, that's sort of Friday in a nutshell.

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game was less exciting, even with Bride's again not

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Speaker 1: It was over pretty quickly. I'll say this now. It

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Speaker 1: was the only small bright spot because Bryce Elder struggled

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Speaker 1: very badly on Sunday, and we talked about Bryce a

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Speaker 1: lot in recent days. If you were listening to our

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Speaker 1: seven runs, six earned. He only got nine outs in

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Speaker 1: I would still make the same point that I've made before,

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Speaker 1: So the Braves have been awesome this year, at least

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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't shock me at all. If he's replaced,

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Speaker 1: at this point in time, But the other big picture

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give a bunch of stats right now.

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Speaker 1: Some of them cut off at the end of Friday's

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Speaker 1: because you know, this is a system that can kind

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Speaker 1: of afford tickets time a little bit because they don't

432
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Speaker 1: have those urgencies that some other teams might have. But

433
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Speaker 1: also you want to be ready if you actually have

434
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Speaker 1: some needs.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the overall focus of the system is

436
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 2: getting in pitching, Like I had mentioned, and when you

437
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 2: look at their draft, that's really heavily where they focused

438
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 2: and most of their top picks, most of their money

439
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 2: is going towards pitching, and they're kind of pushing it

440
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 2: off towards more of the international class, those guys that

441
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: are maybe six seven years away, and kind of letting

442
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,919
Speaker 2: the position players develop over time and really focusing on

443
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,719
Speaker 2: premier positions there, you know, but organizationally, the focus is

444
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 2: getting guys that they feel they can develop, you know,

445
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 2: on the position player side, getting guys that they like

446
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: the underlying metrics for, you know, guys that hit the

447
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: ball hard consistently, Guys that have good contact rates, guys

448
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: have good approaches, and saying, let's get you with our coaches,

449
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 2: get you in our system and try to develop high

450
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 2: level athletes into the players that we want them to be.

451
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,239
Speaker 2: And they're trying to find value in that way. And

452
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: a similar thing that they did with Michael Harrison that

453
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: he was a guy that they liked the underlying data for,

454
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: they liked his workout, and they said, we can do

455
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 2: something with you, and it worked out for them, and

456
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: they do the same with both pitchers and hitters. You know,

457
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: that first round pick tends to be a high level guy,

458
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: and then after that it's they're going to go off

459
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 2: the board. It's They're very hard to predict in that

460
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,479
Speaker 2: way because they have their system, you know, they have

461
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 2: their models, and they really focus on those models in

462
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 2: terms of player acquisition. So it's hard for a lot

463
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Speaker 2: of traditional scouts who don't have access to that information

464
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: to be able to predict what they're going to do.

465
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Speaker 2: But there's a tends to be trends, you know, pitching

466
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Speaker 2: and hitting. They want to go for high level athletes.

467
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Speaker 2: They want to go for guys who maybe haven't tapped

468
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Speaker 2: into power or velocity that they feels there and they

469
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: are confident that they can develop a guy's approach. They're

470
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Speaker 2: confident that they can develop a guy's secondary pitches and

471
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: turn them into not just a hard throwing pitcher. So

472
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: really their focus is on trying to find value in guys,

473
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: especially that are high level athletes, Guys that were multi

474
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: sport players like ag Smith Shauber was in high school.

475
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: Guys that were you know, two way players like Spencer Schwellenbach,

476
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: one of their top prospects right now, who was a

477
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: two way player in Nebraska. Their focus is on high

478
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: level athletes and guys that they feel that they can develop,

479
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: rather than they don't have the draft. They're not in

480
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Speaker 2: a position in the draft to just go get a

481
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Speaker 2: guy that's ready. They can't do that. Yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, and that's part of the balance of

483
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Speaker 1: being as good as they've been for so long that

484
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Speaker 1: you're not going to be picking in the top five,

485
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Speaker 1: top ten anymore. They had a couple of those picks,

486
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Speaker 1: of course when they're rebuilding, and but you know, you

487
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Speaker 1: can't bank on having those premium picks. And also the

488
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Speaker 1: way that the draft has changed, which we'll save for

489
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Speaker 1: later times, but it's it's just interesting kind of calculus.

490
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Speaker 1: And also, I don't know about you. I'll actually kind

491
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Speaker 1: of ask you this. It feels like braves, fans, braves

492
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Speaker 1: observers have been kind of spoiled a little bit because basically,

493
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they were perfect so there perfect lately,

494
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: but a lot of the guys that they've moved quickly

495
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: or have kind of banked on and really needed to

496
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: be good have been good. That seems very simplified, but

497
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Speaker 1: it's also true. But I mean, I guess you could

498
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Speaker 1: mention Von Grisom as a guy who they didn't like

499
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Speaker 1: the world on fire and beyond that, beyond like the

500
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: hot start, But even then they were able to move

501
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Speaker 1: off of him and it was not a big deal.

502
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Speaker 1: But Strider, Harris, et cetera. Like, they feel like they

503
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: have a pretty good hit rate in the last five

504
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: six years on guys who they have clearly pushed aggressively,

505
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Speaker 1: not crazily, but aggressively and had those guys actually work.

506
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Speaker 2: Out for them. Yeah, they've especially in the hitting end

507
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: of things. I mean, the amount of basically every top

508
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: prospect that they have is either at the major league

509
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: level or I was traded, and that's really hard to do.

510
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Speaker 2: They got lucky, I mean, to be as good as

511
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Speaker 2: they are, they got lucky.

512
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Speaker 1: I almost use a lucky word, and I wasn't sure

513
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Speaker 1: if it was gonna be appropriate, but I'll let you let you.

514
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's certain they're definitely there's definitely an aspect

515
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: of scouting, like guys like Grisham and Harris that they

516
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Speaker 2: did a good job scouting. But you can't necessarily predict

517
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: that a guy like Ronald Kuna Junior is going to

518
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: just pop up. That just happens, right and so being

519
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: as good as they are was lucky. Pitching wise, It's

520
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: harder to judge pitching. They've really always invested heavily pitching,

521
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: and I think that they've kind of just been averagish

522
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: in that end. I mean, they haven't had it doesn't

523
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: feel like they've had a ton of guys get injured.

524
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't necessarily feel like they're just churning out

525
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: top level starters. You know, they've but the guys that

526
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Speaker 2: they've gotten to the major league level, for the most part,

527
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: have kind of been able to stick. And of course

528
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 2: they've been able to do well, you know, in trades

529
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: in the free agent market in that regard, but you know,

530
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: guys like Max Freed and Spencer Schreider before he got injured.

531
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Speaker 2: They've put those guys up, and other than really Ian Anderson,

532
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: when those guys have gotten to the major league level

533
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Speaker 2: and had success, they've been able to maintain that success

534
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: other than you know, again, I mean Anderson, right, you know,

535
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Speaker 2: you talk about pitchers, it's just they've gotten to come

536
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: up and they've gotten injured. But they've had decent luck

537
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: with pitching in terms of being able to get it

538
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: to the upper levels. Their development as they hit triple

539
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: as kind of been hit or missed, and that is

540
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: what it is with any pitching prospect. But the fact

541
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Speaker 2: that they've been able to really build a stable now,

542
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at it and it's nine or

543
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: ten guys that, yeah, you don't necessarily trust a guy

544
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: like a J. Smith Shover yet to be your third starter,

545
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: But if that's your ninth best starter, that's a lot

546
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: of pictures that they've been able to develop, and it's

547
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: their pitching side is just again they focus on stocking

548
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: up on pictures in the upper parts of the draft.

549
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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about some players while

550
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: we're here. You know, I think the someone like me

551
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: who's much more casual on the miners pays attention. I

552
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: read your I read you guys minor league recaps in

553
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: the mornings, but I'm not diving into a tons of

554
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: game action on a daily basis. I feel like there's

555
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: two names that people probably know very well, and that

556
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: is you've already mentioned Smith Shov, and then you also

557
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: have Herston Waldrop. What have you seen from those guys

558
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: so far this year, because especially with the case of

559
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: smith Shov, it felt like he already. He already arrived.

560
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: Last year, he pitched some of the majors. He is

561
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: still very young, and I think that, you know, he

562
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't be too far away from being pulled up to

563
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: help the big league club right now. What have you

564
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: seen from them this year? Not that they're always lumped

565
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: in together, but you know why I'm doing that, because

566
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: they are the two guys everybody kind of knows.

567
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Speaker 2: Right If you look at the results of pure results

568
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: from both of those guys this year, it's been a

569
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: little bit underwhelming. They haven't been missing a lot of bats,

570
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: and they haven't been you know, there's been more walks

571
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: than they've you've wanted to see from these guys, and

572
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: the numbers haven't been stellar for them. But what the

573
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Brays are really doing right now is focusing on their

574
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: development with the top level prospects, and they're kind of

575
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: not worrying about whether these guys perform when they get

576
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: to double A and triple A, and they're focusing on

577
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: making sure they're commanding their pitches, making sure the shape

578
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: of their pitches is going well. And I think in

579
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: both cases they're making changes for the better. I think

580
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: Smiths Schava is a clearer case where he's added a

581
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 2: little bit of velocity this year. His pitches are a

582
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: little bit sharper, a little more refined, kind of working

583
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: on the pitch mix. His splitter has really taken a

584
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: step up this year to where I think it's a

585
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: pitch that can be a consistent pitch against left handed

586
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: batters versus last year he really struggled against left handed batters.

587
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean all season he had an ops over nine

588
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: hundred I believe in ops against over nine hundred in

589
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: the major leagues against left handed batters. So having adding

590
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: that splitter this year for him has really been a

591
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: key step. But it's going to be a process for them.

592
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: He wasn't one that they necessarily wanted to be at

593
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: the major league level.

594
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Last year.

595
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: They were kind of forced into it, and now it's

596
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: I'm not I would consider him either their fifth or

597
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: sixth best starter right now. The Braves are going to

598
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: give him as much time as he needs because they

599
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: want to focus on his development, and they feel like

600
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: and they're right that the major league team is good

601
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: enough that they can leave Smiths Shavn triple A even

602
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: if he is their fifth best starter and say we're

603
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 2: gonna win enough of those games anyway. You develop at

604
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: your own pace and you'll kind of see I think

605
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: second half of the year is when you'll see Smith

606
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: shaver back and they'll make an attempt at least for

607
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: him to hold down a job long term. Waldrop's a

608
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: little further behind now over all the results. He had

609
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: a really bad opening day game, but he has a

610
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: three thirty two RA this year. The fit's a little

611
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: bit higher because he has had a lot of walks

612
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: and not a ton of strikeouts. Is based on what

613
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: he had been expecting before. But it hasn't been a

614
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: lot of hard contact. Other than that first game of

615
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: the year. It's been mostly self contact. And he's doing

616
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: that without his best pitch. They're basically telling him, we

617
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: want you to throw a fastball slider most of the time.

618
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Those are the pitches that they feel like he needs

619
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: to work on and be able to throw consistently in games.

620
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: And so his splitter, which is one of the best

621
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: pitches in the minor leagues, he's throwing it less than

622
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: ten percent of the time and still having success. So

623
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: that's a positive sign. The stuff is good.

624
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: The stuff is.

625
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: All baseline, pure raw stuff has been good. The command

626
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: is hit or miss, and we knew that with Waldrope

627
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: that it was going to take time for him to

628
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: develop that command. And I haven't seen a ton of

629
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: development this year. But the command is something that just

630
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: takes time, right, That's something that you look at between

631
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: game one and game twenty, not between game one, three

632
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: and five. So what he's done to be able to

633
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: work with the limitations that the Brace of give him

634
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: and still manage to work and find success with that

635
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: has been positive. But it's just going to take you know.

636
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Waldrop is particularly close. I think maybe

637
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: he gets a shot next year, but more than likely

638
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: it's probably going to be a legitimate shot two years

639
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: down the road, even though he is already in double

640
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: even though he was a high draft pick, even though

641
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: he was a college arm They need to develop that command,

642
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: and again, it's a similar situation to Semishava, where they

643
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: feel like the team is good enough that they can

644
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: live without him until he's ready. So with Waldrop there's

645
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: a lot of risk there, and there's gonna be a

646
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: lot of development time, and I think that he may

647
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: end up moving slower than and a lot of people

648
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: would want, right, Like people if they look at him

649
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: and see he has a three thirty two ra in

650
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Double A and a guy at the major league level

651
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: of struggling, you're gonna have fans are going, hey, get

652
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: this guy up here. Now that was the first round pick.

653
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: Let's get him up He's not there yet, and it's

654
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: just going to take time, and it's not going to

655
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: be this year, at least not in my opinion. But

656
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: I think what we've seen in terms of the pure

657
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: stuff from Waldrop has been impressive. And that's really the like,

658
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: like you can somewhat teach a guy command, but she can't. Really.

659
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: Guys either have it or they don't when it comes

660
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: to stuff, and Waldrop has it and he has high

661
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: level athleticisms. There's a lot to like there.

662
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna actually ask you, you know, scouting

663
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: the data, not necessarily with my eyes, but looking at

664
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: the numbers, I was going to ask you why he

665
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: wasn't throwing splitters And that makes more sense. They're trying

666
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: to emphasize what he is not quite as good at already.

667
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: And took the words out of my mouth with regard to,

668
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, people wanting to push him along. I think

669
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: last year his numbers were so good when he arrived,

670
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, It's Sposely episode. I think it was eight starts,

671
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: but he was really lighting it up and people were

672
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: talking about him. I'm sure you read this and pushed

673
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: back on this as much as I did, like could

674
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: you be all the opening their roster this year? It's like, no,

675
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: he's still not quite there. And Smith Shov is interesting

676
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: because it's a point that we made on the show

677
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: regularly and also dated back to our old show about

678
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, you don't always want to push your guys

679
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: super fast, especially with the fact that you can get

680
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: away with not doing that. You know, Bryce Older isn't

681
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: someone that I love. Bryce Elder is a capable fifth starter,

682
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: and they don't have to worry about Smith Schauber by

683
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: the way, I think these people kind of maybe don't

684
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: know this. Smith Shov is younger than Waldrop, which is

685
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: one of those things it's like gets lost because water

686
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: is further away. But Smith Chauber is forty one years old.

687
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: He is, uh, there's a reason that he has to

688
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: rush and suddenly be throwing one hundred eighty's.

689
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: In the major right now, right, And I mean, you

690
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: know Smith Shower. You know, we kind of talk about

691
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: getting lucky with guys. The Braids did a good job

692
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: scouting Smith's shabor. Nobody thought he'd be even close to

693
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: this point yet, Like that's a guy that says an area, So,

694
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, seventh round pick, a guy who really didn't

695
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: throw that much in high school. Best case scenario, you're

696
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: hoping he's in high A, maybe double A at this

697
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: point and he's throwing major league innings already. The way

698
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: that Smachev has developed has been incredible, and he's a

699
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: guy that we hear a lot about in terms of

700
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: just the makeup, the off the field stuff. He's a

701
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: hard worker, a guy that learns really well, high extremely

702
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: high level athlete, and so being able to develop that

703
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: way is really impressive on his end. And again, the

704
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: Brady's got lucky with him that he developed as well

705
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: as he did and continues to develop. I mean, he's

706
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: gotten noticeably better this year, and I think that he's

707
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: only going to continue to get better. I mean, given

708
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: the level of experience he had, you know, this is

709
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: really his third year, third or fourth year pitching overall,

710
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: I think he's going to continue to get better. And

711
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: he's already you know, a guy that you look at

712
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: and say, well, I mean that's a probably already a

713
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: guy that could come in and be a fifth starter,

714
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: and he's continuing to get better. And there's a high

715
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: ceiling for that guy. I mean, right now, wou'd say

716
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Smiths Shover is clearly the best prospect in the system

717
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: and a guy that I would consider probably top forty

718
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: overall prospect in baseball. Definitely the best play that definitely

719
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: the best prospect they've had since Michael Harris came up.

720
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's that's high praise. I was going to

721
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: ask you at some point in this interview, like who

722
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: you had as your top guy, because you know, I

723
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: read the Battery Power preseason prospect list and had that

724
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: in front of me right now, and but yeah, that's

725
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong praise for smith shaw Or. I like

726
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: it quite a bit as well. I mean, again, just

727
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: the combination of the age, the traits, the fact that

728
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: he was able to move so quickly, and it is

729
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: pretty appealing. But obviously you know about more more lot

730
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: of stuff than I do, so as a it's a

731
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: pretty strong stamp. I did want to ask you about

732
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: some other guys. Yeah, I think you mentioned earlier Spencer Schwellenbach.

733
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: He's a very interesting prospect that's looking the part. Him

734
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: and Owen Murphy. I think, I'm uh, we're both in

735
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: the top five or six of the preseason the list

736
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: that I saw at Battery Power. What do you make

737
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: of those guys as well? And I do trust me,

738
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to ask you as the last

739
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: guy about na Joelreis because I everybody's waiting for that.

740
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: But what about swelling Block and owned Murphy.

741
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Schwelling Bock's another interesting one when we talk about developed

742
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: over results and he's had very good results at every level,

743
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: but there's always been this issue with him where he

744
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: doesn't miss a lot of bats and his pure stuff

745
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: now is fastball, good velocity. You know, he's ninety five

746
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: to ninety seven his last start with Mississippi, and so

747
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: that's good velocity. There's not a ton of movement on

748
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: his fastball, so it is a little bit hittable in

749
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: the zone and he throws his fastball quite a bit,

750
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: so he was getting hit quite a bit. And then

751
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: we got access to data which I can't share completely,

752
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: but we got access to data where he's throwing it

753
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: slider around, you know, less than twenty percent of the time,

754
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 2: and when you look at really when you watch him

755
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: and when you look at the metros on a slider,

756
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: it is by far his best pitch. And so what

757
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: I kind of suspect is going on with him is

758
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing of saying we're gonna limit

759
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: your best pitch, let's develop everything else. And Schoellenbach is

760
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 2: kind of similar to dismisschav and that he really, you know,

761
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: even though he was a college arm he he pitched

762
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: as a reliever mostly in college. He was more of

763
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 2: a shortstop and a lot of people preferred him as

764
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: a short stop. Then he missed two years with Tommy

765
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: John surgery, so he hasn't had a ton of kind

766
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: of pitch and he's already in Double A having success

767
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: and a good fast bat. Again, I do think the

768
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: fastball plays down because of the movement, but mix in

769
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: above average curveball, probably a plus or better slider, a

770
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: splitter that he's shown recently, or more of a split

771
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: change that he's shown recently that's had promise. So that's

772
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: a guy that's three four average to above average pitches,

773
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: and he has high level athleticism. He throws a ton

774
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: of strikes right now. He's control over command, but the

775
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: command is coming and he's locating at the edges more often.

776
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: So he's a guy that we have a ton of

777
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: confidence that Schwellenbach is going to be a major league pitcher.

778
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: The stuff is too good for him to not be

779
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a major league pitcher. The command is too good for

780
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: him to not be a major league pitcher. There aren't

781
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: major red flags. The only issue with Schwellenbach is because

782
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: of the Tommy John surgery, because of being a reliever

783
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: in college. He's only his career highest sixty five innings,

784
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: and stretching him out to be a major league starter

785
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: is going to take time. But he's a guy that

786
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna see next year. He's Rule five eligible this winter,

787
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: which means they have to add him to the forty

788
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: man roster. They're going to ad him to the forty

789
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: men roster unless they trade him, which could happen. They've

790
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: done it before, but I don't Schwellenbach is a guy

791
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: that I know they like a ton and I don't

792
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: expect him to be one of those guys that they're

793
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: eager to trade unless they are just getting a huge

794
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: impact player to add to the major league roster. So

795
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: Schowllingback's a guy you're going to see next year because

796
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: he's going to be on the forty man roster, and

797
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: when he's on there, at some point they're going to

798
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: call him up. I could see him being ready next

799
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: year just with his ability to control the strike zone,

800
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: having four pitches, and I think that once he starts

801
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: utilizing that slider more, he's going to have a ton

802
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: of success. I think the biggest concern is their ability

803
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: for him. So far, he's thrown thirty eight innings this

804
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: year in seven starts and haven't had any issues. His

805
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: fastball philosophy's been ticking up just a little bit start

806
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: to start. You know, he started out the year more

807
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: ninety three to ninety six. He's about ninety five to

808
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: ninety seven in his last start, So good marks right now.

809
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: You know, you kind of got to see where that

810
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: guy is in July in terms of this sturability. But

811
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: that's going to be a process where he may not

812
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: be a full time guy next year just because they're

813
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: still going to be building him up. But he's a

814
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: guy that we have a lot of confidence in and

815
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: as long as you stay healthy, I'm fairly confident in

816
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: that as a mid rotation starter, kind of a three

817
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: four type starter. Murphy, I think he's a top one

818
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: hundred prospect. I think he should be. No one's really

819
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: giving him that love right now. And you know, we

820
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: talk about national rankings and a lot of times, you know,

821
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: a system like the Braves is going to be underrated

822
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: because there's not a lot of prospects. So because there's

823
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: not a lot of prospects, the national writers tend to

824
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: not watch that system as often. They'll watch the guys

825
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: like the Orioles that have you know, five top twenty guys.

826
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: They're going to watch them, you know, a couple of

827
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 2: times a week. And so those kind of fringe guys,

828
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: those guys are a little bit lower, they're going to

829
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: be seen more often. So a guy like Murphy, if

830
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: you just look at his pure stuff, I mean, curveball,

831
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: change up fastball that sits you know, ninety to ninety three.

832
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: That's not that impressive from a right handed starter. But

833
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: one Murphy's fastball, even if it is ninety to ninety three,

834
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: I would consider it to be a better fastball than

835
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: swelling Bucks because his last start twenty two inches of

836
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: induced vertical break, which is absurd. I think, what is

837
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: it like? Seventeen is considered above average, so he's I mean,

838
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: that's double plus carry on his fastball. He gets great

839
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: extension on his fastball as well. His fastball is even

840
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: with the velocity. And that's really been the concern with

841
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: him is he was kind of ninety two to ninety

842
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: five before the draft. He's backed up, and so people

843
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: are looking at and going, well, his fastball has gotten worse. Well,

844
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: it's also he commands it well to the top of

845
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: the zone and it has a ton of movement, and

846
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: that's why he's really he's dominating high A this year.

847
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: He has the most strikeouts in the league this year

848
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: as a twenty one year old. Twenty year old I'm sorry,

849
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: he is twenty now and he's dominating at the high level.

850
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: His slider looks good, his curveball looks good. So you're

851
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: looking at your guy with another player that command great fastball,

852
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: a couple of good breaking balls. I think that he's

853
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: further along. He might actually be further along than Waldrup

854
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: at this point though, they're going to again be patient

855
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: with him. There's no reason to rush him. But I

856
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: think with his with the metrics on his pitches, what

857
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: we've seen out of him, with his command, that's a

858
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: guy that is going to get out. So now, I

859
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: do think if the fastball velocity doesn't step up and

860
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: get back to where it was before the draft, and

861
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: right now it really doesn't look like that's coming for him,

862
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: you do look at that and say his ceiling is

863
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: probably limited because he's not going to miss bats at

864
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: an elite level. But he's a guy that has solid

865
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: potential and a guy that I really think can fit

866
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: in the back end of any rotation is going to

867
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: be you know, with with any picture, it's can they

868
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: stay healthy. You know, all of these guys really, other

869
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: than Smcheve are kind of smaller guys. I think Waldrip

870
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: is six one or six to two. Murphy is generously

871
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: listed at six to one. I would say that's closer

872
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: to six foot. Maybe he's gonna touch below. Oh but

873
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, all four of those guys are guys that

874
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: are projected to majorly starting roles right now, and the

875
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Brads haven't had that. The Brads haven't had that kind

876
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: of depth of guys that are confident, not just fill

877
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: in fifth starters like a guy like Dylan Dodd would be,

878
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: but guys that could come in and be legitimate contributors

879
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: to the team, and guys that you could look at

880
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: and say, maybe this guy gets a start in October.

881
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: They have four guys that you know, as long as

882
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: they stay healthy, which again is you're lucky if two

883
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: of those guys stay healthy long term. That's just how

884
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: it works with pitchers. But I think Murphy and Schwellenbach

885
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: are both in positions where they've taken steps up this year.

886
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: I think Murphy should be pushing for top one hundred consideration.

887
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: I think Schwellenbach, you know, I don't think he's quite

888
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: a top one hundred guy, but I think if you

889
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: look in that one hundred and fifty range, he's definitely there.

890
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Like the difference between an eightieth prospect in baseball and

891
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: one hundred and fiftieth prospect in baseball, it's very small,

892
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: and I don't know that Schwellenbach has quite gotten to

893
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: the point where he's going to get top one hundred recognition.

894
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: By the time he does, he's going to be in

895
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: the major leagues and it's not going to matter, but

896
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: I think both are kind of pushing to be that

897
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: tier of prospect and they the Brakes haven't had that

898
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: depth of talent at the top end and quite a

899
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: long time.

900
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, you know as well as I do,

901
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: like the first round picks get more attention, just like

902
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: the casual attention because that's what the first person that

903
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: they remember from the draft, and the Brakes haven't had

904
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: a big hit first round pick since Kyle I guess,

905
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: you know Kyle Wright as a year ago with that

906
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Bill Finally, but right Anderson were the most you know,

907
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: most famous guys. You know, Brandon shoe make didn't work out,

908
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: Langeliers was fine, got traded, et cetera, Jared Schuster no

909
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: longer around, et cetera. So like you know how it is,

910
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: Waltrip and Murphy, of the last two first round picks,

911
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: they'll get more attention, but they're also seeven be according

912
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: to what you just said and what I've seen in

913
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: boss scorers and stuff, well to be the part so far,

914
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. I do want to

915
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: ask you about one position player and then you can

916
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: get to anybody else that you want to as well,

917
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: want to open it up to you. But Nacho Alvarez,

918
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: number one has a fun name, and number two seems

919
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: to be really someone that everybody's seems to like and

920
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: that isn't super far away to spite be twenty one

921
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: years old. What do you make of him and his development?

922
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: Nah, Joe's an interesting one. He kind of made a

923
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: rare switch. He went he was a third basement as

924
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: a prep guy. We heard sorry, junior college guy, amateur,

925
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: he was a third basement that All we heard was

926
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: this guy is a great glove like this, This guy's

927
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: an easy plus defender. He's going to stick at the corner.

928
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: And the brains moved him to shortstop. But he's a

929
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: bit of a squadier guy. If you watch him play,

930
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't look like a shortstop, but I mean he's

931
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: he has great hands, a great arm, His footspeed isn't

932
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: is bolo average, but he really does everything you kind

933
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: of ask of a shortstop. I don't think he's going

934
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: to be a guy that's going to ever be an

935
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: elite defender, but he's starting to look like he's going

936
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: to stick at short stop, and that makes a huge difference.

937
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: In his profile yep, you know, shortstop versus their base.

938
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: His big concern is is he really just hasn't hit

939
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: for power. Now. He has strength, but his swing is

940
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: a bit stiff and he tends to have a flat

941
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: bat path, so it's hard to project him to even

942
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: average power. So far, he has eight home runs in

943
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: his career one hundred and seventy eight games below average

944
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: isolated power at every level. Now, part of that is

945
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: the Braves at high and double A. Both Rome and

946
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: Mississippi's parks are very pitcher friendly, so it does somewhat

947
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: dampen the power production for him. But overall, he's not

948
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: gonna be guy it hits for a lot of power,

949
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: and whether he ends up playing with the Braves, the

950
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: Braves don't tend to like the guys that are on

951
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: base over power. Not Joways a great hitter, I mean

952
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: approach wise, he takes a ton of walks, He swings

953
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: at the right pitches. He's his eye is better than

954
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: the minor league umpires at this point to where a

955
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: lot of his strikeouts are just him watching pitches that

956
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: are not strikes get called. So you know, he's a

957
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: guy that can hit any pitch, can use all fields,

958
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: hits a ton of line drives. It's just he doesn't

959
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: make enough impact contact to be a guy that you

960
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: project as kind of a cornerstone player. You know, more

961
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: of an average is to above average guy. There's nothing

962
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: wrong with that. That's a fantastic baseball player. Hit it,

963
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: hit it every level.

964
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: You know.

965
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: The question is is if the power never comes, does

966
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: he get on base enough to stick at the major

967
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: league level. If you play short stuff that helps you

968
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: know if he's you know, he's run an OBP over

969
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: four hundred in his career, four h two in his

970
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: minor league career. You know, if you're running a three

971
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: seventy plus OVP, which he very much has the potential

972
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: to with his line drive rates, with his strikeout rates,

973
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: with his walk rates, you know, and on base percentage

974
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: of three to seventy are better, you're pretty much guaranteed

975
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: to be an average or better hitter at the major

976
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: league level once you get to that point. Even if

977
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: he's you know, thirty great power, that's a guy that's

978
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: more than likely going to be a valuable major league hitter.

979
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: So if the power doesn't develop, you're still probably looking

980
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: at a major league ballplayer. It's just can he still

981
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: draw walks? When you can see upper levels of minor leagues.

982
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: You know, guys that don't hi for a lot of power,

983
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: they're going to get challenged more by better pictures. And

984
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: if he's not able to really turn and hit you know,

985
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: ten home runs a year, is that a guy that

986
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: pictures are going to just throw the ball on his

987
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: own and suddenly the walk rate drops off. I do

988
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: think that he's good enough hitter and he's gonna hit

989
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: a lot of doubles, but ultimately his ceiling is going

990
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: to be determined by whether the power ultimately comes, and

991
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: right now, it's just it doesn't look like it's going

992
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: to for him. I do think that he's probably going

993
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: to be better than you know, eight home runs in

994
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: a hurt seventy eight games. I think he's maybe going

995
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: to be a ten to twelve home run guy. I

996
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: think he has enough fat to get away with that.

997
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: But I don't think that he's ever going to be

998
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: an impact, elite guy like some of the guys that

999
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: they've had come through the system. Now that said fifth

1000
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: round pick, if he turns into an above average major

1001
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: league shortstop, that's an absolutely fantastic pickup for them, and

1002
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: he's one of their best scouting wins because it wasn't

1003
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: one of those things where he developed over time. He

1004
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 2: came into the system, was immediately the best pure hitter

1005
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: in the system, showed a ton of potential on the

1006
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: defensive end. And so I think that this guy that

1007
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: as long as he's sticks at shortstop, that some major

1008
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: league guy. Now, if he does end up having to

1009
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: move off of the short stop position, which I don't

1010
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: foresee at the moment, if he does end up moving

1011
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: off the shortop position, with his lack of power, it's

1012
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: going to be hard for him to find a role.

1013
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: But maybe you kind of look at that as a

1014
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: super utility guy. You know, he's a guy I could

1015
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: see starting for the Braves. So I don't know necessarily

1016
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: if he's going to be one of those guys that

1017
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: are going to come in and tear the world up.

1018
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Makes sense to me, and I am going to let

1019
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: you go, but I do want to make sure that

1020
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: I ask you, is there a guy or two that

1021
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: you seem to love like your guys for instance, or

1022
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: someone that people should know more about that don't know

1023
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: how much about him so far, because I think we

1024
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: talked about like the top five ofst guys on the

1025
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: on the OLDVP list, but I'm sure you have a

1026
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: favorite or a sleeper somewhere.

1027
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of want to focus on guys that

1028
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: are fairly close to being able to contribute to the

1029
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: major level. And I really want to look at a

1030
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: couple of guys who, well, Wana is definitely a relief prospect.

1031
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: One is a starter right now, could end up a

1032
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: relief prospect. And that's really Munno's. He's at the DOUAA

1033
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: right now, striking out over forty five percent of the time.

1034
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: It was forty six point eight percent the last time

1035
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: I checked, but I haven't checked recently. Either way, absurd

1036
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: strikeout rates. His fastball ticked up this year. He's sitting,

1037
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: you know, ninety eight to one hundred h slider in

1038
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: the low nineties. That's a wipeout pitch. That's a guy

1039
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: that you know, he's Roll five dosible. So he's probably

1040
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: going to be added to the forty man roster this offseason,

1041
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: which means come next year, the praiceer're going to give

1042
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: him look in the spring training. The praise they're gonna

1043
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: may give him looks throughout the year, So that could

1044
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: be a guy that comes up and contributes. And I

1045
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: think if you look at a guy on the forty

1046
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: man roster like Dasbell Hernandez right now, I think he's

1047
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: better than Diasbell. I think his commands about the same,

1048
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: which is not good at all, but the fastball is better,

1049
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: the slider is better. So that's a guy that I

1050
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: think come up and contribute pretty quickly. And then another

1051
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: guy that's coming back from an injury right now. So

1052
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: we hasn't looked very good at Gehan. Carlos Lara, big

1053
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: breakout prospect as a starter last year, struck out batters

1054
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: thirty seven point one percent of the time I believe

1055
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: was the number for him, you know, towards over the

1056
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: last twelve starts of the year. Last year, he's sitting

1057
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: ninety eight to one hundred topped out of one hundred

1058
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: and two this year as a starter again low ninety slider,

1059
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: wipeout pitch. So with Lara great athleticism, my guy that

1060
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: has shown flashes of being able to command his fastball

1061
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: up in the zone. Definitely better command than a guy

1062
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: like Munnos. So the Regi're going to run him at

1063
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: as a starter for right now, and they tend to

1064
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: be slow on moving guys off the starting pitching, But

1065
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: he kind of lacks a third pitch. He lacks the

1066
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: elite command like a guy likes Fitcher Scheider. His command

1067
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: ended up being good enough that and his pitches were

1068
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Speaker 2: good enough that it really didn't matter that he didn't

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Speaker 2: have a great change up when he came up to

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Speaker 2: the major leagues. He was able to have success. I

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Speaker 2: don't see that with Lara. I don't think that his

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Speaker 2: pitches are quite that good at this stage, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think his command is good enough to get away

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Speaker 2: with bad command. But I think as a reliever, if

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Speaker 2: they end up moving him to reliever, which is where

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Speaker 2: I project him, that's a guy that could probably get

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Speaker 2: up to the Major league's maybe this year. I think

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Speaker 2: they have enough reliever depth that they won't do that,

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Speaker 2: but I could see that guy being a late inning

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Speaker 2: option next year. This is I don't often rely. I

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Speaker 2: don't often rank guys I project as a reliever very highly.

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Speaker 2: There is probably other than aj mentor the best relief

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Speaker 2: prospect that they've had come through the system in my time.

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Speaker 2: With battery power and I mean that's a guy that

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Speaker 2: again he says healthy. I think he's a major league

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Speaker 2: arm and I think he could be a contributor to

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Speaker 2: the Braves in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, relievers are always tricky, and your pictures

1089
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: are always tricky, and we all kind of understand that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a pretty pretty pretty strong stanfe of approval.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking like a j mentor adjacent, it's not

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Speaker 1: a bad place to be for reliever prospects. Garrett, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time, man, I do appreciate it. I of

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Speaker 1: course kept you longer than I said I was going

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Speaker 1: to some apologies, but anything to plug beyond your uble stuff,

1096
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: and please feel free to pluck all your rum stuff

1097
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: because it's all worth diving into and listening and reading.

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Speaker 2: You know, like you said writing at Battery Power, trying

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Speaker 2: to ramp up our content. We're kind of getting close

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Speaker 2: to draft seasons, so it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: more frequent for us on the minor league side of things.

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Speaker 2: We definitely over the draft fully and Draft day stuff

1103
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Speaker 2: is going to be big, and then p Shape Prospects podcasts.

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Speaker 2: The three guys we talked about a lot here Schwellenbach, A, J. Smith, Shaver,

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Speaker 2: Kristin and Waldrup. We have deep dive breakdowns up ready

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Speaker 2: to listen to right now. They were really good episodes.

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Speaker 2: I think we got a lot of information out more

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Speaker 2: than I was able to get out here, and we

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00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: really went deep in on these guys. And if you

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Speaker 2: give if you're interested in those guys and knowing more

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Speaker 2: about the top guys, we've been able to get those

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Speaker 2: out lately and it's good stuff. Like it's genuinely good content.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just going to say that because it's mine.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of valuable information there and

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Speaker 2: if you're interested in prospect and knowing more about the guys,

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Speaker 2: guys that are you know, in all three cases, guys

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Speaker 2: that contribute in the next couple of years, that I

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Speaker 2: would definitely give it a listen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, strongly agree. It's a great place to dive in

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Speaker 1: and learn more about the system and what being the

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Speaker 1: guys who are coming because I know, you know, the

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Speaker 1: next wave of braves, hopefully in a positive direction, are

1123
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: coming and always good to listen to that and read

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Speaker 1: all of this battery power and learn all about the

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Speaker 1: new wave of guys. Thank you again for being here.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to plug your Twitter account as well?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, Twitter is at Braves m ILB and I've

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Speaker 2: been a little bit lazy with it in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years, but it's all right. But focusing more

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Speaker 2: on the Battery Power content lately, but definitely do some

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Speaker 2: updates there. And if you ever want to reach out

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Speaker 2: to me, you, guys, my dms are open. I may

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Speaker 2: it may take me a few days to get to it.

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Speaker 2: But if you guys want to reach out to me,

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Speaker 2: ask me questions. You ask when guys are going to

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Speaker 2: be pitching whatever. You know. I'm always available and I

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Speaker 2: try to answer questions whenever I can.

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Speaker 1: He also a managed to secure a fantastic handle. I

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Speaker 1: don't know when you would have had some good Braves

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Speaker 1: and MLB. That was a good grad by youth on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: It's good. That would have been twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: It's been very good. That's a good find by you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Garret for being here. As forbody else, please

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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, subscribe to charitory anywhere you get

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00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: your podcast, rate review, et cetera, et cetera. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you all. Thanks time. Wow, it's very very les very

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Speaker 1: let's tap believe that