WEBVTT - ILLuminati with AWA Sudios and Best of Class 1998

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<v Speaker 1>Trapp Trapp really like you never heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome Walker, Welcome to another excited episode of the

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<v Speaker 2>Trapped Nerds podcast. We got incredible episode for you guys today.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined us later two of the creators of the Illuminati

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<v Speaker 2>couple book series coming out very very soon, Dennis Coward

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<v Speaker 2>and Axel Alamson was gonna be joining us. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about the couple books. We'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Moleston Media, We're talking about Marble, all types of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So coming up later, stay tuned. But first Great House Week.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been chilling work.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so before I stopped, I was I'm still on.

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<v Speaker 3>The store Wars the Old Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently the dude so like when I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still streaming and when uh, they basically said, while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in right now, I'm damnar at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the main store.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm just gonna be on the expense. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been like hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh, I'm just really waiting on Sparkling zero to

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<v Speaker 1>drop on PlayStation.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've seen a lot of people excited. Chris Parkings oil.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going back to the trenches. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>wind had a Zeno versus straight but it went Buddha Cado,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, let's peak dragon Box.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>They had over the fight mechanics and just all of

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<v Speaker 1>the logistics. Nigga, we're on point type ship that's bringing

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<v Speaker 1>back the mash mechanic uh where you know.

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<v Speaker 4>People give themselves early arthritis.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if I died died, They had the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>on nether Storm Narto Storm two. I think the mas mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated it so much, hated it so much. Any

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<v Speaker 2>game to do that crazy, But I think.

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<v Speaker 1>We now I gotta get that new Maria Party two

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<v Speaker 1>because that bitch on line with like thirty it's like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and thirty people. I saw this ship turn. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take so long. Boy, you'll be waiting twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>For your turn. Worth to sit there, trash bu have.

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<v Speaker 1>But because the ship I didn't realize with switch, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the voice chat on this suck. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do it off your phone the actual win which never

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<v Speaker 1>made sense to me. No, it's like an AMP where

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<v Speaker 1>you could just use a voice chat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like send the link to everybody that got the help.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you could just use discord like a normal

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<v Speaker 1>fucking person.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like Nigga running in on discord.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that'd be nice, but I don't waiting on knit

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<v Speaker 1>and I really just been chilling, leaning, live and work.

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<v Speaker 3>I got all the puss from my truck. I just

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<v Speaker 3>got to get them putty in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, buddy, bud, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 5>I started a new series this week, Black sales. Wait, man,

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<v Speaker 5>you just down started black just not starting black sales?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, never seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's lit this day. I got some message. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be back. It's gonna be like I got. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pirate ship yep. Yeah, damn, I call it Sunded.

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<v Speaker 2>Got all those powers that you know names from in there,

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<v Speaker 2>all all the history.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting with mister Tea Black Beerary itself. You got all

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<v Speaker 3>of them in there. Bro, Okay, what is all net?

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<v Speaker 3>It was?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was from Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, but yeah, from I've seen when the first came

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<v Speaker 3>out of Stars years ago. So that ship been out yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's nice. Is it only four seasons? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So they have okay, yeah, so they do have all

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<v Speaker 4>the seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wraps up in a nice bowl. Tony. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about no, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, because I kind of recalled here and it got canceled.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm glad that they wrapped it up nice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, what I started? What's I started this week?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>From I started from? How far did you get? We're

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<v Speaker 3>on this?

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<v Speaker 4>We finished the second episode? Okay, so they are. They

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<v Speaker 4>were in the r V, you know, and got out.

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<v Speaker 3>They had put the town inside the crash r V

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. It was good, Bro, that was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is. It is really good. Like I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of knew it would be, but I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>How hard the time would you have accepting that you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I don't like just getting stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in that roundabout for like probably about three times, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd go around three times like be like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah it is. It is really good, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I started it. I need to get back

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<v Speaker 1>into Vikings. But I made the mistake of starting that

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<v Speaker 1>with someone have to wait for them? Yeah, that's Haiti,

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<v Speaker 1>so much stuff, Eli, how you week start?

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<v Speaker 2>Finished Season one of Old Man? The Old Man or

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<v Speaker 2>FXX has some heat, Bro. They show Yeah, they got

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bridges starting Jeff Bridges. I still don't understand what

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<v Speaker 2>he said. But man, that show is so good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where Jeff Bridges be drawn permanently. Bro. But this

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<v Speaker 3>show is so good. Bro. It's about an ex operative

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<v Speaker 3>who's over in Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>So it got like real history of about Afghanistan and

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<v Speaker 2>how we sent money and guns and stuff to Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>so they can fight the rush back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we started missing Afghanistan and made the same

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<v Speaker 3>mistake of Rush. Did it's all it's all it's all

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<v Speaker 3>the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, it's by him, uh, years later, years later

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<v Speaker 2>and tell the story of like what happened back then

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<v Speaker 2>while he's back in America. And then they they try

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<v Speaker 2>to capture him or kill him because the dude in

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<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan wants them, and you know, you start to find

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<v Speaker 2>out why and all that stuff and all the history

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<v Speaker 2>behind it, his wife and all that stuff. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>it's really good, man. I'm on season two, episode two now.

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<v Speaker 2>I started to watch that. Uh, you go watch it

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<v Speaker 2>on you watch it on Hulu. Yeah, just just type

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<v Speaker 2>it in the old man, it'll come up. I started

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<v Speaker 2>Twilight of the Gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Zack Snyder's new project on Netflix. Uh, it's an animated

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<v Speaker 2>show biking stuff, biking folklore. It's all missing. It is really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the first US so really good man. You will

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<v Speaker 2>see some meat though. It's like the Blue Sumurai. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't care about nudity. They have set out and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Time equality, they got it, they got everything out, man,

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<v Speaker 3>so really kept my attention. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so far, I'm just getting into it. All

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<v Speaker 2>those happening yet Agatha all alone. From what I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>so far, I'm with, Yeah, these first four episodes is

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<v Speaker 2>being so far three episodes. It's three, yeah, three because

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<v Speaker 2>they dropped two at the same time. Okay, three episodes

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<v Speaker 2>so far as it's good so far, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is plus actually, this something is actually actually entertaining

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't with low expectations, but it's yeah, it's there actually, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm wait. I'm waiting a little

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<v Speaker 3>longer to make sure you don't get bored. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know this is plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll fall off, it'll fall off, So I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta wait. I gotta wait because the only Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars showder I've seen that they fall off on. This

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<v Speaker 2>was that's all else.

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<v Speaker 3>That was all that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Mildly entertained about the manaloriate finished lawyer, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but manlord is not really my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I finished, And because yeah to Drake, when I tell you, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think about it?

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<v Speaker 3>It was nice. I can't even be mad. I like

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<v Speaker 3>to the diplomatic ship going on. It's actually actually was

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<v Speaker 3>lost dark. It was kind of dark. Okay, you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell whoever was behind that politics uh uh nerves either.

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<v Speaker 1>And they read the books because they kept they actually

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<v Speaker 1>did keep ship kind of actor. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>smart y'all got some smart writers day. You just got

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<v Speaker 1>to get the niggas a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, George Lucas, but it was third grade dialogue,

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<v Speaker 2>like George Lucas like doing. It was actually good interested

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 3>They they was using the book like the book dialogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Niggas not wrong with George dialogue, yes, man, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>just be honest. That's why he walked away from the bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're talking ship all y'all do.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the word he built, but that dialogue, oh

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<v Speaker 3>now makes me just kind of be like I miss

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<v Speaker 3>him a little bit every time I hear over boy,

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<v Speaker 3>every time I hear I hate saying, I'm like, nah, George,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, you thought about thought about everywhere? Thought about that, George.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, man. When I see George, like George, come

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<v Speaker 3>on man, what you thinking? Man? Come on man, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't not do it good because a dialogue to

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<v Speaker 3>but that's good and nice. I'm talking about Star Wars

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<v Speaker 3>in general. It was simple. It's fun, which is simple.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the dialogue is good. It's actually interesting. Is it's

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<v Speaker 2>Challe challenging all the other stuff. It's tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>They try to It's like when you try to be

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than George Lucas, but you try to you overshoot it.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb, that's what. That's what. That's what. That's where it's

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<v Speaker 3>in the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like at like dialogue, that's that's that's something. The

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<v Speaker 2>worst dialogue I have seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I'm just being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody can just don't work at times because he made

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<v Speaker 1>it so simple. When you try to over over explain

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<v Speaker 1>simple ship, it just don't work. Random space, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how they got the live factors Star Trek the way

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's only live action.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they need to do Captain Janway so like

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<v Speaker 3>a love movie. Yeah, just movie. Yeah, but like Star

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<v Speaker 3>Trek you know ye, I don't know. The story is different.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where to spit. Why who who? Who

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<v Speaker 3>is the audience for this because.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why, the reason why reason watching was the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>But it works because they were lost in space. Like

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<v Speaker 2>like that's if you just don't have a movie lost

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<v Speaker 2>in space, I'm not interested in. But that's what made

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<v Speaker 2>the show interesting. But no, wasn't lost in space. So

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<v Speaker 2>that may bore sense and all that stuff. But by

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<v Speaker 2>just more show, if you know, if you understand, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about. By like a show, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what borges like a show, that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is happen They how uh great come the shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout to everybody, stand ups the great show uh and

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<v Speaker 2>shout everybody showed up. The big laugh from the club

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<v Speaker 2>closed the show out. I think it was a crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>had a really the time. It was my first time

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<v Speaker 2>performing forward, so times everybody they came through.

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<v Speaker 3>I've still been on baking bad Uh loving it.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got to the scene where uh, Gustavo goes

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<v Speaker 2>to Mexico and just kills the my boss that killed

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<v Speaker 2>his homeboy, like back in the day they said there

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<v Speaker 2>yelling at him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like done, Amelius, dad, you have no one to

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<v Speaker 3>protect anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave and take everything with you. If not, fight me

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<v Speaker 2>and died. I was like, yes, bitch, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>good ass actor. I was also hot, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>basically I really like I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, did you see Rebel Rids? Never heard of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't looked at the Rebel Rids? Boy is there

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<v Speaker 3>like some cowboys ship some Netflix? No? Netflix? That movie

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<v Speaker 3>that that was all. It's really it's a good movie,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of in the Internet, kind of back oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>one What to Do with the Nose, the one with

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<v Speaker 3>the light skinned black dude who they might try to say, Mike, find.

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<v Speaker 1>The police and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's so. Is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, it's worth Okay, it's worth Rebelredge Netflix. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it because I kept seeing previews.

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<v Speaker 3>Finished. It's a nice seven seven and a half drink

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<v Speaker 3>good rewatch it? Check it out. Did you did you

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<v Speaker 3>watch the last recent episode of Ghost Uh, the one

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<v Speaker 3>that just came out. I ain't watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch I've been watching The Old Man still I like

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<v Speaker 2>the good nigga gets hiss bens racist white people. Yep, country,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It started with walk Remember Walking Tall, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite rock when when he got.

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<v Speaker 3>The two by four he was actually he was actually

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<v Speaker 3>trying to prove something in the business when he was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be an actor for real. Okay, because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad you because that's one of my favorite rock.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I never said anything about just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's what he was actually trying to be. He

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<v Speaker 1>was still the same nigga he was. He was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be different people.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what I was about saying. The Rundown bro

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<v Speaker 3>them were my two and faster. I'm not. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big fan of the Rundown, but I

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<v Speaker 3>like walking through. I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one mode faster, not faster. I liked faster,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one more. He randomly did.

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<v Speaker 3>What the scor I like the Scorpi.

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<v Speaker 1>I can watch the Scorpion king down and laughed my

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<v Speaker 1>way through that ship and it's just a good it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good childish time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I like Edge of Tomorrow and nobody likes that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's on Netflix right now, okay, is that the

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise movie. Yeah, I don't have no problem with

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<v Speaker 3>Edge Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not a lot of a lot of critics hate

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<v Speaker 7>that movie. It's like that was that the one we

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<v Speaker 7>had everything, Yeah and recept Okay, I had no problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's act was entertained by that movie. It's like

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<v Speaker 7>one of the time Cruise me and movies I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that movie on Netflix right now, you see

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of his I did try to watch Jack

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<v Speaker 3>Riacher the Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 4>Get.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of hard to watch after watching the net

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<v Speaker 3>the Yeah you see real Jack Reacher. Yeah, you tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, that's not the same. It's not the same.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the same prisons at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That old boy who played Hawk, I mean, yeah, hero good.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack uh huh. They said what's his name was supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to play it, but they couldn't get him. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>got tough. I forget who and the dude they said

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was almost a perfect man uh Worth

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<v Speaker 3>Christ Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they said they wanted to get him

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<v Speaker 2>for a new movie to play Jack Reacher. I like

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<v Speaker 2>his Netflix movie better.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad when he was Yeah, I got I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>back and watch that tonight. That was cold. Bro. Did

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<v Speaker 3>we give that a Yeah, we gave that. Yep, that's awful.

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<v Speaker 3>One week, you know, just TV watching. Let's bring our

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<v Speaker 3>people into the interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, gotta go to a quick break, but when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we'll be talking Illuminati with Axel Alonso

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<v Speaker 2>and Dennis Cowen after this.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are back today. We got special guesses in.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to two legends and comics legendsday were artists

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<v Speaker 2>and MILESNG co founder Dennis Cowen and former Marvel editor

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<v Speaker 2>in chief Axo Alonso, who is founder and chief creative

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<v Speaker 2>officer of a DBA Studio.

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<v Speaker 3>They've teamed up.

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<v Speaker 2>With charlemagnea God and created the Illuminati, Not the Illuminati.

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<v Speaker 2>The comic book Illuminati, a brand new story where hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop and comics collide. Illuminati is one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight page supernatural filter available now on Kickstarter. Set into

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<v Speaker 2>la music scene, the story delves deep into the price

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<v Speaker 2>of fame and one of the most enduring urban legends

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<v Speaker 2>of our time, the Black Illuminati. Charlemagne and Awa have

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<v Speaker 2>attracted some of the greatest and most influential Black talents

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<v Speaker 2>together to create the original story, cover art and hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop homage art. The team includes the Claiyon Ryder and

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<v Speaker 2>filmmaker Brian erwhill Ink Pot Award winning artists and producer,

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Cowen and Isisler Hall of Fame artist Bill Sequinz,

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<v Speaker 2>with cover art by Isasler and Ringo Award winning artists

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<v Speaker 2>Sam for Green. On top of this, unique variant covers

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<v Speaker 2>were created to honor five the greatest and most influential

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop albums, personally selected and curated by Charlemagne himself

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<v Speaker 2>and celebrating the groundbreaking album art of each record. The

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<v Speaker 2>Illuminati Kickstarter campaign runs through Tuesday, October twenty second. Found

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<v Speaker 2>out more on Kickstarter. The leak is in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Check them out.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the interview at Sol and Dennis. How

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<v Speaker 2>you guys doing. Everybody's doing great? Okay, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to have you guys there, especially I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Cowen. We just said this before the start, before

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<v Speaker 2>it started your Molestone media. Uh So, basically was just

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<v Speaker 2>asked like, how was the process with the come a

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<v Speaker 2>book and the creation today everything, and what are y'all

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to seeing as has been released and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a chief.

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<v Speaker 8>Creative officer of the of the the publisher A w

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<v Speaker 8>A Studios, and we were talking with Charlottage and the

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<v Speaker 8>God who is interested in promoting and supporting black creators

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<v Speaker 8>in the comic book space. He's a big fan of

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<v Speaker 8>comic books and he wanted to get behind him promote

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<v Speaker 8>worthy projects. And I said, I've got a pitch in

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<v Speaker 8>from Brian Brian Edward Hill called Illuminati, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>It's dealing with the most kind of enduring urban legends

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<v Speaker 8>of our day, the block Iliminnati. You want to read it?

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<v Speaker 8>He said, for sure, you read it. You loved the pitch.

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<v Speaker 8>He was in automatically, you want to get behind the project.

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<v Speaker 8>I called up Dennis. I said, I've got this amazing project.

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<v Speaker 8>I love you to get on board.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 8>He read the pitch and loved it as well. So

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<v Speaker 8>I had my creative team at that point. And then

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<v Speaker 8>Dennis brought in Bill, his longtime collaborator an Inker, to

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<v Speaker 8>come in as her inker.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had our team.

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<v Speaker 8>Brian is a writer, Dennis as a penciler, and Bill

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<v Speaker 8>is the inker. It's an amazing story. It's about a

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<v Speaker 8>young woman who travels to Los Angeles after the mysterious

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<v Speaker 8>death of her sister, who's a rising hip hop star.

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<v Speaker 8>She the woman does not believe her sister died from suicide,

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<v Speaker 8>so she looks into what happened and she uncovers a

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<v Speaker 8>really really, really corrupt, deep conspiracy buried in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like a Hollywood mystery murder mystery kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, going, yeah, it's pull from the headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Again we announced the project that they did. He was arrested,

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<v Speaker 8>which is kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of we didn't do that anything, and that does not

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<v Speaker 6>do with that. That did not prove the existence of

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<v Speaker 6>a luminati at all. That thereic coincidence is that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>So we just accept those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>The ax Axel called me my my former boss at Marvel,

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<v Speaker 6>so when he was running Marvel, I used to do

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<v Speaker 6>stuff for him whenever he'd ask, of course, as my guys.

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<v Speaker 6>When he called and pitched me this thing, he didn't

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<v Speaker 6>even he started telling me, oh, yeah, it's a project

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<v Speaker 6>from from Brian Edward Hill and we really want you

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<v Speaker 6>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the time he said it's called Black Illuminati,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I hesitated because It was one of those

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<v Speaker 6>things where I heard the title and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know what this is or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to be involved. I just need to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Did it did from you know? He had

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<v Speaker 3>me from Hello.

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<v Speaker 6>So after I actually read the thing, I really actually

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<v Speaker 6>did commit to doing it, and I called Bill and

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it would be a great project. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>Axel wanted Bill from the beginning, and we always we

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<v Speaker 6>always loved working with Bill. He's one of my best

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<v Speaker 6>friends and a great collaborator with me. So when I

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<v Speaker 6>called him, all I said to him was hey, Black Illuminati.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said I'm in just like So that's really

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<v Speaker 3>how it happened. Was that easy?

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking about the r style? Is where the information or

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<v Speaker 2>did the inspiration for the art style come from? Where

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<v Speaker 2>did all get that from?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's my style. Yeah, I was going to say

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<v Speaker 3>it's like his style, right, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Just how I It's just how I draw. I tried

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<v Speaker 6>to adjust my style to whatever subject matter is at hand.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, storytelling is a little different. Subject matter is different.

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<v Speaker 6>This is dealing with the supernatural and horror and you

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<v Speaker 6>know La at Night. So yeah, the noir, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 6>just adjust your art a little bit for that. But

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<v Speaker 6>my style is my style was like I changed advatically

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<v Speaker 6>for this.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this is not a superhero book. This is a

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<v Speaker 8>This is a mystery, a supernatural mystery thriller.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no big muscles in it, there's no no

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<v Speaker 3>no people flying around. You know. It's really is like

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<v Speaker 3>real ground didn't greedy, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Really really grounded in reality as much as dealing with Illuminati.

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<v Speaker 3>So because I'm just looking at a couple of pictures, like, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of y'all did you've been You have your affiliation

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<v Speaker 2>with d C Company Ax, you have affiliations with Marvel.

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<v Speaker 3>But I gotta ask y'all, which one is your favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>Marvel of DC?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh God, you asked him to pick a favorite child,

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<v Speaker 8>Ask what pick a favorite. I'm gonna go with Marvel

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<v Speaker 8>because it got Black Panther and Shang Chee. So I

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<v Speaker 8>have to go to DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know they published Milestone. So okay, that's fair,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not going to fuck that money up.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta ask what work did you do for Marvel

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<v Speaker 2>before you started on doing an Illuminati.

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<v Speaker 3>Ult in chief?

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<v Speaker 8>In chief stands job? Okay, and the things I was

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<v Speaker 8>there one of the things I want to do is

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to diversify the creators and the and the audience.

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<v Speaker 8>My thing is, I wasn't about the fan boys that existed.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to go to the larger audience. So it's

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<v Speaker 8>all about trying to diversify the creators and the characters.

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<v Speaker 8>I got behind Coaches of Black Panther back in two thousands.

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<v Speaker 8>No one gave a ship about him in publishing, right

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<v Speaker 8>Bridgie headline our Vitual Friend did my Vitual Friend? You

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<v Speaker 8>ordered for six years for me? And then I did

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<v Speaker 8>the hip hop variants at Marvel. Yeah, you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>hip hop variant when we did homages to all the

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<v Speaker 8>hip hop album covers I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the Liquid Swords covers. Yeah, I redid the

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<v Speaker 3>Liquid Swords covering. Hey, Dennis, I didn't tell you this.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 8>I was in Korea Town in Queen's I swear to God,

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<v Speaker 8>I saw a seventy year old Korean man wearing a

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<v Speaker 8>bootleg Liquid Swords Marvel variant of your cover.

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<v Speaker 3>No to God, Iron Man, and what bootleg boot leg

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<v Speaker 3>of yours of your you know you made?

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<v Speaker 6>It was the copy of the It was the Marvel

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<v Speaker 6>copy of Liquid Swords that is so sick, that is

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<v Speaker 6>so next level.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to have that shirt I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got another question for this that I always wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>how long, because I know it's got to take a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. How long does drawing all this stuff take?

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<v Speaker 2>How long does it take you for you to finish,

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole comic with drawing that must be a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, or a whole book, the whole book, how

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<v Speaker 2>long does that take?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he's about usually about three weeks. Still month, Oh

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<v Speaker 6>my god, he's about three weeks still a month.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's one week of laying it out like I do,

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<v Speaker 6>small thumbnails of all twenty pages or twenty two pages

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever it is. I give it to my assistant

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<v Speaker 6>who helps me with the backgrounds and all that stuff.

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 6>I decipher what I want to give him reference. He

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<v Speaker 6>gives it back to me. Now I have to start drawing,

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<v Speaker 6>so it'll take me about two and a half weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll take me about a week to do his thing,

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<v Speaker 6>be about two weeks mine.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand.

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<v Speaker 8>You'll talk to you a pro there, Blue col You

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<v Speaker 8>know it's not that attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>Put their head down and get the job done. What

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 3>it is is that's how we were taught. You know.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like you got a certain amount of time, you

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<v Speaker 3>allocate your time, you get it done. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>get it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Deliberate.

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<v Speaker 3>There are no excuses, there's no nothing. And if they

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<v Speaker 3>name when you say you.

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<v Speaker 6>Are, and then we keep going and try to cause

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<v Speaker 6>your publisher as little hassle as possible.

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<v Speaker 8>Been the best friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that attitude? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So I got an outside question about another milestone question

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<v Speaker 2>for you, because right now DC is having this huge

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<v Speaker 2>like takeover, like this huge redo what they're doing with

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff with the m C, with the

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>DCU and everything. I always wanted to see some more

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>mouthstone characters in the in the cinema universes especially, I

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>can especially standing shot. What's your thoughts on do you

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<v Speaker 2>would you want to see a lot more of your

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<v Speaker 2>care of course you would, but like, well, what's your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on them? Like do you think that will may

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<v Speaker 2>be happy in the future or is that something that

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<v Speaker 2>you are ready to see with the characters.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to see what happens. I mean, for me,

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 3>an icon of Rocket Movie would be everything I've said,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 3>this little bit chemistry.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's Superman and Robin. Yeah, it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 6>just it would be such such a perfect movie. Reggie

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 6>has a great take on it, and you know, hopefully

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 6>what one day, one day someone will do it. I

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<v Speaker 6>think Static would be a great live action thing. There

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 6>was you know, we had a script done, there was

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 6>all kinds of stuff, and then there was a big

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 6>reason change Uponner Brothers.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 3>So that just threw everything up in the air.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 6>And then the constant and then the focus at Warner

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 6>was on Warner Brothers was on like their iconic superheroes Batman, Superman,

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 6>wonder Woman, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's fine, you know, it is what it did.

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<v Speaker 3>You just get.

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<v Speaker 6>But the milestone characters I think deserve more of an

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to shine, you know. And it's a gold mine

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 6>that's just waiting to happen. It's already happened with Static

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 6>Shock in the two thousand. It was what would be

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<v Speaker 6>even bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I remember the good old Static Shock day. Yeah,

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 3>it was a simpler time. It was a simpler time,

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<v Speaker 3>It's right.

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<v Speaker 8>And you would think the executives that one who would

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<v Speaker 8>pay attention to Black Panther and the sequel.

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, it's as you know, no Man, as

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, any Black successions looked on as at the

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 6>unicorn never to be seen. You know, we saw a

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 6>unicorn in the forest, and we never don't see it again,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 6>and then they do another one.

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<v Speaker 3>There was another unicorn in the forest. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>would think they have comes to actual But this DC

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 3>was talking about they cinematic just trust it's it's it's

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>it's the whole thing, you know. It's it's the business

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 3>that we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I like that man. I like Superman, but I'm

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of tired because they keep just read inventing it,

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, and DC has so much potential. I mean,

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>they have so many It's just like with the Black Panther.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The person's got a big success. He's a person who

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>breaks out of that pattern and does something like that.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>So whoever does Icon and Rocket or whoever does that

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>static thing, it's going to be huge. And that's going

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to be why, you know, because we you know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's needed, and just like Black Panther and just like

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 6>everything else like that, it'll be a phenomenon. They just

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 6>have to get off them and you know, invest a

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 6>little bit of money. They want to invest in it,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 6>just let it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I really

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>want to see Milestone some more than Rocket and I

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 2>col be some right put out there.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 3>It will just be amazing.

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>And that people have some another black because everybody because

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>everybody's like black Superman like no icon it I have.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>We have the people right and the other Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, No, no, we're tired of the multi verse.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 3>We don't need this anymore. Nobody gets it anymore. I

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>got another question.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>But Axel and Dennison, y'all are y'all are in the

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>comic business, of the art business and stuff like that.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Y'all going back to yall childhood. Y'all remember what got

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>y'all first? Got y'all interested in comics and art and

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>things like that. Dennis, you go first. What got you

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>interested in those things? What got me interested in comics

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 2>was I was in third grade and I had never

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 2>seen a comic before.

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 6>And the guy was sitting next to was a guy

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 6>named Derek Dingle who ended up founding Milestone with me.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 6>Because I was Dennis cow and c he was Derek

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 6>Dingle d they sat us next to one another, alphabetic

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 6>like they used to do.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>So I'm sitting there minding.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 6>My own business, and Derek pulls out a copy of

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 6>I Think it was fantastic for featuring the Black Panther,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 6>the first appearance of the Black Panther. He pulled that

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 6>out and pulled out two more comics than New Gods,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 6>two copies of the New God's comics.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>You got to my favorite as a kid. Yeah, I

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>lost my mind. He was nineteen seventy one, right, seventy

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 3>seventy one. I lost my mind.

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<v Speaker 6>I had never seen anything like I had never seen

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 6>a comic book, and I had never seen anything like

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 6>the pictures inside. I thought that I was doing something

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 6>because I would watch the Superman TV show on on

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 6>on TV, the black and White one with George Reads

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 6>on my own Superman comics. But I didn't know I

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 6>was doing comics. So I would just do the show

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 6>and I would draw a little box next to another

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 6>little box, and I put Superman inside, doing different things

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 6>in sequential order. I had no idea of what I

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 6>was doing. And Derek shows me this, and I'm like, oh,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 6>there you asking comics. Yes, I'm already doing this, And that's.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>How I got it. That's how I started. That's how

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 3>I started drawing man.

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 8>Pretty much the same thing. When I was a little boy,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 8>my grandma would pick me up after school, and so

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 8>she picked up she would walk me home, and in

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 8>order to keep me calm, she would buy me comic books.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 8>So I bought Black Panther, Luke Cage, Shang Chi, Sergeant

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 8>Rock and you and you thought, I love these books,

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 8>blew me away, and I like Dennis, you sit down

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 8>and draw comic books myself only I had no talent,

0:29:59.000 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 8>so I didn't go out round.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I loved it.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see some more, and we're gonna see Luke

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Cage coming back. You think, because I'm man, it's gone

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>water back. This Showy had a TV show.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh I like that show. Yeah, we said every week

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 3>it was underrated. I like that that show. To des

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>did a pretty good job. With the Marble shows. I'm

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>not gonna lie to did a good job. They didn't

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>up Yeah my favorite. I didn't like that much, but

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I know we didn't. We didn't either. Nobody like Nobody

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 3>like Irony did.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>He did a much better job in the Defenders, though,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>yes he did redeemed himself a little bit and I

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't see that Defenders.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It's worked just a lot of fun, Yes it is.

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 3>It was. It was nice, it was enjoyable.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>But they you know, Nettlease got rid of all the

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>marble shows now, so saying Disney plums Disney plums that

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>way they are now. Yes, Dark Devil's coming back early

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>next year.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that's one. It's a premier. I thought it

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>was Christmas. It might be.

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 9>It might be Christmas research. So I got to I

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 9>had a question for so. I know you started as

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 9>a journalist, right, what is that?

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wasn't a real person, that's like a cartoon person.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Right, So what pushed you to pivot to like comic books?

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 8>Well I saw an ad in The Times when I

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 8>was a journalist that DC Combois were hiring.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 3>So I thought, what that.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 8>I'll just send in my resume and see what happens.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 8>I get a call for an interview. I go in

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 8>and the editor interviewed me late blue staff. This said

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 8>I wanted to meet you for a while, And I

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 8>said what And he said.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 3>You wrote an article for the Daily News. I read,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 8>I wrote an article about the use of the cannabis

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 8>sleep and hip hop and pop culture and interviewed a

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 8>lot of people.

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Love people. I got you.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And two of the people I interviewed were the

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 8>head of the DA for Law Enforcement Law and the

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 8>other one was editor in chief of High Times magazine,

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 8>and they both really extreme. It both seemed kind of silly.

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 8>What happened was that Lou said that motherfucker who stole

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 8>my girlfriend? Yeah, he said, you're hired. You're hired, So

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 8>I got I got hired because I wrote an article

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 8>in which I made a guy look bad who stole

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 8>the girlfriend.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that's awesome. Yeah.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 8>And then I stayed at Vertigo. I was at Vertigo

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 8>for a few years ye as some success, and the

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 8>Marvel came to me in two thousand offered me a

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 8>job and I said, I don't want to work at Marvel.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 8>I don't like super heroes, and they said we.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Want you more. Now.

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 8>Magnitude is I like the characters as genres, you know,

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 8>I thought, you know, Hulk is about anger management, the

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 8>monster thors a fantasy book. Captain America is about politics

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 8>and the American flag. I mean the black Captain America

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 8>two thousands almost got me killed, you know, was not

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 8>ready for that.

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 3>It's an idea. Bradley ready for that.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 8>Bob Morales in collback, I got fucking death threats for

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 8>that ship.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, people were not ready for that.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 8>On Miles Morales, they were not ready, you know.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Miles Morales.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I know now because Manle Morawns is another one of

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>my favorite uh New Marble heroes.

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>So much backlash, Oh.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 10>The bastards were insane, insane, insane backlash people a Parker,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 10>you know, yeah, on a personal level, I love him

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 10>more than Peter Parker because all the stuff he does,

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 10>and he's more powerful to me.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 6>Miles Morales and that whole thing, to me, that was

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 6>all inspired by Statue for real, it really was.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they got the same vibe and everything Static

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>walked so Miles could riun.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 3>It was brilliant and we loved it. And then they

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 3>did the movies and it was even even more brilliant

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 3>and we loved it.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 6>But the thing was, nobody at Milestone had said this

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 6>to act on Nobody Mouse we couldn't get mad like

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, and I couldn't get mad at Miles Morales,

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 6>the Spectacular Spider Man being so much like Static because

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 6>Static was inspired by Spider Man.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 3>We basically said, gee, what if?

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<v Speaker 6>What if like the whole high school getting bitten by

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 6>Spider being a nerd not being accepted, being like a

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<v Speaker 6>science geek and all that stuff.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 3>All that stuff came from Spider Man.

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I actually never realized black.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we made it a black character and gave it,

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, that kind of flavor informed by our experiences.

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, I didn't know that at all. It's crazy

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>because used light. It was like it was like it

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 3>was kind of everything flipped in on the stuff.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 6>When when when spectacular Spider Man came out, because it

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<v Speaker 6>was like, well, we can't stay anything.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 3>It was just like damn, we got them and then

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 3>they got their leg.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 6>Big this crazy had to get their back and they did.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 6>You know, but Stating is still still a great character,

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<v Speaker 6>still stand. The ultimate movie would be a team up

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<v Speaker 6>with those two that los epig minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Like if they ever do one of them like random

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>like DC Marvel crossover comic series.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Again, that's probably would be hot too. They got to

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<v Speaker 3>meet each other and at least do the what it

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.479
<v Speaker 3>was on Predative The Sign of a Bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, we got one more question. I got one

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 2>more this okay, but but we back to Illuminati. Our

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>relationship with Charlotte Maine. How did your relationship with Charlotte

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Maine start?

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>You know? How did y'all come together on this project?

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 8>We started to Charlotte Maine a few years ago and

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 8>realized he had an interest in getting into publishing, and

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 8>we understood part of this is mandate, his personal mandate.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 8>He wanted to get behind black creators in a big way,

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 8>and he loves comic books. So we said, look, let's

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 8>work together. Let's work together. We want to work with

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 8>you to do this. It's a party for us, it's

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 8>a party for you.

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>We're like mine.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 8>Let's let's work together. And then when we got to

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 8>formerly talking with him alone, that's when I realized that

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 8>I had to pitch from Brian, and I thought, Black Illuminati.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 8>He might like this, you know, easy as that he's

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 8>being a dream to work with. He's he's just enough involvement,

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 8>been real, you know, and and to make sure that

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 8>it's on point. But he's not a you know, an

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 8>intrusive and he's not he's not a control free Yeah.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I got a test to that work with work with him.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>We've been on them what four years, almost five years,

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and were making him making it so it's been amazing.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we could also tested that.

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>You should, you should put a word in his zer

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that we too are also writers, you know, so we

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>have some ideas.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Lights of brain, you know. Just quisl didn't help. No,

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 3>he wrote that and we read it.

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 6>I remember when I when I read it, I remember

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 6>thinking at the time, Wow, some of this stuff seems

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 6>a little far betched.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>But this is a comic book, so you know, we

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 3>can and then come to find out, No, none of

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 3>it was far batched.

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<v Speaker 6>Not one thing.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>It's twenty twenty flood drew.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 6>Now one thing I drew was far batch compared to

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 6>everything that's come out now about.

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<v Speaker 3>When the last time you've been to Florida, ik about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Go back exactly, go now you'll see some things and

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 3>here's some stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually end with these questions, is my rapid five questions,

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>and I have comic book folks on her.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, First chocolate vanilla. He's starting off basic. That's

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.240
<v Speaker 3>very basic. Chocolate vanilla I wasn't.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 8>Popular, but I like vanilla ice cream more than chocolate.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 8>But I do like vanilla ice cream more than my

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 8>people like chocolate, you know, I like him.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Up coffee coffee, coffee.

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 6>Coughlic person, but I appreciate vanilla. All right, Batman, Superman, Batman, Batman.

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 6>Here we go, Eli Eli our resident. Ma ha, he

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 6>hates bad Man, but obviously I love Batman.

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 3>We got the win.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts Free Willy? Like I wonder they

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>thought that's another I think. I think Free Willy is

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the best movies of all time. What are

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on not just bring it up?

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 6>I did, Yes, I did.

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 3>What is it that Michael made Free Willy? I haven't

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:16.800
<v Speaker 3>seen it?

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 3>For the gun? I see he's in that too, right?

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Who is in that?

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes he isn't it? Yeah? So it's too extreme?

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Remember the song Michael Jackson made the song about that's.

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.959
<v Speaker 3>How old are you me? Yeah? Fifty four? Fine? Okay, okay,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 3>the move it makes it not make little man. It's

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the nineties kid thing. I understand, you know good Way

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 3>like many a forty you know what? Rap fire questions?

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<v Speaker 3>One last question for fort stupid. One last question.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could write or make any movie comic book,

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<v Speaker 2>comic book movie, uh that you could think of any

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 2>coming big movie, past present, fugual, whatever you want to do?

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:08.959
<v Speaker 3>What would you write, I'll make.

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<v Speaker 8>We're talking about existing characters, existing characters. Punisher for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nice, and I needed I would do. I would

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<v Speaker 3>do like kind of rocket. I would rocket and then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Start bro Yes, all right, that just needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the atmosphere. We need to mention that more because

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I really would love to see ar the Rocket movie.

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<v Speaker 8>Also, Yes, but I'd rather create something new myself, right,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 8>quitting stuff that's new.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, it is time for some new ship instead

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>of just yes. You know, I'm tired of the classic reboots.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of the Star Wars. Put a woman in

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and making gate Tech. We could we could deal with

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 3>some new.

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Ship and it's probably gonna boom off the soul fat.

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>We just tied everything and rebooted.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 8>We got this book called Illuminatis and check that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, this Dominati, I can't wait all the minds.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for it to come in.

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely gonna because I like to do a cook

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>so I'm definitely gonna reviewed with This is.

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 8>Built to lize, This is built to lie to the

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 8>story is complete, but there's threats for more starts to

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.479
<v Speaker 8>be told yea and shout out.

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 3>To breaking the goal, doubling the goal. You'll had a

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 3>k goal and y'all had twenty k.

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's go making it so people are supporting.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 1>So make sure y'all go to kick Start and look

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>up the Illuminati and go, you know, pick it up.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the project, everyone, please get out there like it's

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 2>like Dre said a boy the book, Support the project.

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>The campaign is October October twenty second. And also you

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>can see these guys at New York Comic Con.

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 3>What is that coming up?

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>If you want to plug the dates, you want to

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>let the audience also let them know your socials if

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you have them out there.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Please. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I met at Dennis Counten Art Instagram, at Dennis count

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 6>on Instagram, Dennis count Art on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me.

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 8>I'm just Twitter axel Onza MARV the X C L

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<v Speaker 8>A l O N s O M A r V.

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<v Speaker 8>That's my only social I don't do fastbucket on anything

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 8>like that. And I have an Instagram account just to

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 8>check out basketball videos and my son's my son, you know,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 8>NTRI still life.

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>And also close it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can check out the New York Couble Come

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>panel October eighteenth at three fourty five pm. It'll be

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>the panel on Illuminati with these guys here, Axel and

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Dennis who also joined by the boss Man, Charlomagne the Guy.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be amazing.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see more from the story and

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see more from you guys. This

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>is amazing to sit down with both of your stuff

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and dream come true. All right, we're gonna go to

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a quick break. But when we come back, Best in

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Class after this, and we are back, so we got

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>another edition of Best in Class going to the dojo

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>with Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. All right, what's up, Padawan? Uh? Yeah,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>We are just running through this long ass scroll we

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>call time, and we're doing the best class. Well, we

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>just shine to spotlight on new I was gonna say

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>new games on games of the olden years that were.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 3>The bees knees of his time. And this year, this week,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 3>we are in the jolly old year of nineteen ninety eight.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 3>So let's pop it off. We have the one of

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>the goats Banjo KAZUOI Oh was that not it? Yep? Yep,

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you bet it was bad joking and then let's try it.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's try it again, Okay, all right, A hey, that's

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>funny that, Like I'm looking at the I m B

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>D I m dB other list and like three of

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 1>the top five on Super Smash Brothers, but another.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>N GaX entered the Gecko. Oh was that? Man?

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm not really striking on this one.

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 3>The gust the gigs under the get really come out

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<v Speaker 3>of ninety eight? Sure did? Sure? Delsion, my ah, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>My personal favorite.

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Zel the game and what Karina Time Tony who had

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the better soundtrack a Karina at time?

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<v Speaker 3>On the George Mask. Hm, right, that's a tough one.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with my George Mask. I think there

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was a lot more he cooked on that he cooked.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta agree. Yeah, I'm with you.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Everyone loves Lost Woods, but I you know, I think

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of tells us lullaby you.

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is I still think I.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 4>Think man, I mean, but I'm biased. I like Majorys

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 4>Mask better than a Koreen of Time.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Major Mass had a song that the dude made. He

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 2>was probably on cocaine when he made it. Which one

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a few of them. It's a few of them.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 3>That's a Goat.

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<v Speaker 1>But next to funny shit, this is a game I've

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>never played the first one. I played the second one

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>only because of you. I remember the Orange box that

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>came out on like xby and PS two they had

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<v Speaker 1>like Team Fortress in Half Life two and guess the

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>counter strike that's that was the third That's the only

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>way I was ever able to play Half Like, but

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Half Like one drop.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.439
<v Speaker 3>That story still confuses me, but I'm pretty sure we'll

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 3>never get Half Life three. I'm sorry.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>And next up another one of my personal favorites and

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of me being a conspiracy like theorist Medigan

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Solid the beginning of the real adventures of the Goat.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Another super Smash Brothers MVP Solid Snake that was like

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the beginning.

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 3>That was the beginning to meet with Stealth Games because.

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I I didn't have an Xbox growing up, so I

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.439
<v Speaker 1>never I got Sam Fisher kind of late. I didn't

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>even know what is Nigga. I just knew Snake tame shit.

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Next to we got the beginning of me falling in

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>love with Umbie games risk Ain't Evil to still traumatized

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 1>me to this day, to the point where I had

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to buy the remake just to beat it, to prove.

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Some shit to myself. I needed that. That was for me.

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>We got Fallout to the beginning of like the beginning

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of like super like team competitive shooting. We got Rainbow six.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Was Rainbow six a multiplayer competitive game, and first it

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a story, No, it was single player story right, Yeah,

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but Rainbow six the person one dropped in ninety eight,

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>let's keep going. We got falled, like I know, like

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Rainbow SI because Rainbow six because I remember Vegas.

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Vegas was Oh, it's fun. I don't know how I

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>was just said, I'm dead.

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to thank I guess did I see it's

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>weaky weigky worthy.

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 6>Oh.

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And in the beginning of like this is meat falling

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>in the take and we got Taken three and I

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>could close it with it. I could close it was

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Taken three because that's the beginning of gen becoming.

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 3>My main And.

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 5>Eight for me was that was a big year gaming

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 5>for me. I that was I got a Nintendo. I

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 5>would This was like the time my grandmother was doing

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 5>her best and she worked for like Mobile Oil, and

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 5>we were well off. If you asked what ship you

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 5>got it?

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I had a Nintendo sixty four and a

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 4>PlayStation and a game boy.

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was the kid that you know.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Everyone came over to my house to play games.

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 3>So I had nice wasn't never invited, just putting that

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 3>out there. I didn't know you because we were black.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Huh No, I have black friends. We really didn't need

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 3>to meet it judge to high school.

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I had Spiral great game that also came

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 4>out that year.

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Damn ship. Sure did. I had gets.

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 4>I mentioned that earlier.

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I played all of them bitches. My mom pawn

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 3>that game, so I didn't.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have it for long.

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the one game like if I ever rented it

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>from from from the Light from like funny Ship. I

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>cant of market had a video sto inside of it,

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.439
<v Speaker 1>so you can get groceries and red movies, so I'd

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>always get every time a Gecko Gainst Gecko game came out.

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I rent that Beach for like three days, and I'm

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to beat that bitch, but I got to take

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:51.439
<v Speaker 1>it back.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it like a store inside the store. Yeah, that's

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I used to have that. They like a Hollywood videos

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 2>out of.

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Type ship and that's what and funny ship that's where

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood I wasn't. It was one of them that wasn't

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>black Buster that's sold movies. They came from like the

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.839
<v Speaker 1>inside of like the grocery stuff. Then they got their

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>own building. It's like, damn it.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.879
<v Speaker 4>And on the Dreamcast, I had Sonic Adventure that came

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 4>out this year. Love that game.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Also.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I would always go play this and it wasn't Fiesta.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a different store by John Quincy Adams Malones.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 4>There's another Mexican store. This is kind of like pre Fiesta.

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 4>It was a Marvel versus Capcom. Yeah, it's still there.

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit.

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Pokemon Yellow came out this year. That was

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>my first Pokemon game. I didn't start with that's real.

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I started on Red. Yeah.

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 4>I started with Yellow because I loved the show. So

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, there's a game and Yellow follows.

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the one ship. It followed the entire show.

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And Get but instead of you picking and get you Pikachi.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which is made Matt couldn't evolve them. I was like,

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 5>check this Thunderstone, but by pissed off everybody.

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I called a pikachew and evolved into a right to

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>put that pizature in my box.

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't yellow. It was like ashes pikach you. You couldn't.

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't put it in the box. You couldn't it

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 3>to be with you.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you followed you all the time.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I did that. It had to

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 3>be red or blue because that.

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 5>Was the only that was before Yellow Mario Party came

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 5>out this year, and that was destruction of friendships.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That was sixty four. Yeah, yeah, oh, friendships were lost

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>in that game Monopoly. We had Crash Bandicoot Warped. I

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>played that a lot.

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 3>That was the third one when Yeah, yeah, that was

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 3>another game I played at that girl house.

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 4>I saw you like bringing that story up because like

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 4>burned in your memory.

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 3>I played.

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the first naked woman I've seen close personal.

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 2>And also I played a lot of games in the house.

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I was older a lot.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, you had a crush on her, that makes sense.

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Then I got two more lesser known ones that I

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 5>really enjoyed. Great fencer Musashi, that's fighting game. No, he

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 5>did have a sword.

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Then he kind of looked and then he kind of

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 1>looked like Final Fantasy seven style bodies.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I can't remember that ship. That was game

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I I have.

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 4>That's like a kind of core memory because wheneverything died.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>He would be like when I when I get reincarnated,

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to be Musashi again, and I'm like, you

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.399
<v Speaker 1>know what, I feel that and then to Rok too.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I never beat that game, never, never in my life.

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Still haven't gone back to beat it. It was difficult

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>for me, you know.

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Switch now they just dropped. They fit the first two

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 3>and then my mom pawned it. My mom ponned a

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of games.

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I see, I see God that I'll just pray you

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>beat them before then I didn't.

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 5>There I would, so I would go to Mexico, right

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 5>because I had to go visit my dad. I'd go

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 5>to Mexico for a summer. I'd come back half my

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 5>games are gone. Should go and then I would have

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 5>to complain to.

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>My grandma, and my grandma would tell her to go

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>get them, and then maybe I'd get them back if

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>she didn't do it at the start of the summer.

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>If it's at the start of the summer, they're gone.

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.399
<v Speaker 1>It already been like three months or whatever.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 3>She missed the ship. This fucked you liked anything? Why

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 3>did you have an undershirt off for the indegy and

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 3>you had a shirt on? Now you should have just

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:59.399
<v Speaker 3>kept the damn shirt off. I had wait shirt.

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 2>We were moving to washing machine and now what was

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing got off? Rainbow six c Yeah, that's that's I mean,

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Rainbow six. That's what I remember the most. By ninety eight.

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 2>That damn, I ain't.

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 3>I ain't even never the first persone came. I remember

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 3>playing that. I remember playing that at school. That's the

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 3>first time I played that. Really. Yeah. Everything. He was

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.320
<v Speaker 3>one of the smart kids, so they had more friuit.

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 3>So it was very.

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>You sound salty, bro, because there's a bullshit. They should

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>not let separated the smarty. I could even going bield trips, dumps.

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 2>That's the bullshit, bro. Okay, that's a personal problem.

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh that ninety eight? Ninety eight? Really wouldn't I remember

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 3>doing it? Oh yeah, Pokemon Yellow, that's it.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>That's what I remember. That's probably why I remember Pokemon Yellow.

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 2>You have people that you follow you around, that's what

0:52:58.120 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you not paying attention to the entire time we

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.719
<v Speaker 1>were talking about it, he was put the stupid shirt on.

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay man, So I'm like, when the did you put

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the shirt of my games? Uh N? They was kind

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:20.320
<v Speaker 3>of dry, I know it was. It had some sleep. No,

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 3>that was a big year for me. Dry.

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't see no hits on her in the first

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Minutican Solid. That was the beginning of the stealth games.

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 3>Not that's not in my wheelhouse. Solid ain't your thing.

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 3>That's say.

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Ninety eight was like kind of toys the end of four,

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.320
<v Speaker 1>but sixty four was still.

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Coming out with nice ass games.

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But I guess while we're still on game and and whatnot,

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>just another uh. I am so ready for Dragon Balls,

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Sparkling zero, B Sparking zero. I don't know why I

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 1>keep on saying spark Sparking zero. It's gonna be nice,

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>good old punch time. It's Tokyo Game Show at the moment.

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So next week we'll come with some more news on

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>everything that's coming out.

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 3>But I will say, damn, I did see some more

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Civilization seven stuff. Nice. No nice.

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw the Shadows the Sunic Shadow Generations trailer.

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Apparently they're gonna have a chapter.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess for the movie, like a little prelude prequel

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 1>chapter for shadow storyline that.

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Go into the movie.

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 4>We uh, oh, yeah, I heard about that.

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no voicing them and shit, I was like, Okay,

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I see what y'all doing right there. That's nice. It's

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 3>kind of neat.

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I've been seeing a lot about the

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Mortar comeback, chaos rain stuff and at it. But it's like,

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know because if they ain't thinking the's

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>time I played the system was, I'm just say, ain't

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>like shit need to be rebalanced. I don't like it

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, Tony. Did you also see that how World

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>is coming to PlayStation five?

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 4>And light of the they did at the Tokyo Game show,

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 4>they said fu Y was like.

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, drop your dick on the table, my niggas. I

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>respect that. Can't even be mad, like take this ship try.

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is one of the rare to those sides.

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>No I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm what they're

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 1>swing for. Its kind of bes but still they did.

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm saying, you gotta come with a better

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>reason if.

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.839
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna do well, Maybe game Freak should stop throwing

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 3>out slop every other year, like they got they need

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 3>that competition. They got the Man and two K curse.

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they haven't had competition for like a fucking decade.

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 5>They they're coasting. They're coasting, dude, their medas fucking ain't

0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 5>no way.

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Sid after that, it was all of them. You're

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 3>talking about r kas ship.

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that went in a Pokemon game that was like

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a story mode type ship.

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Was trash. But that street any who get to get

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 3>the movie trailer ship?

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we finally got to see where the Ghost of Tashima,

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Ghost of Your Time, which is I'm ready for I

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>fuck y'all know, Ghost Tashima was my ship.

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 3>I still got my Ghost Steamer hoodie and backpack. I'm

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 3>lit for that.

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Donasty Warrior Orisins is still looking really nice. Uh, Horizon

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>zero done again, upgrade and remaster. All right, I didn't

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>ask for it, but I it's like, I feel like

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:43.879
<v Speaker 1>this is one of those y'all should have just gave

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody that got the actual ship. If it was fine,

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have did it. I ain't gonna lie but

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.399
<v Speaker 1>but but right now, I leave it to next week

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to get the rest of them. But this one messed

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>me up a little bit because I was like, it

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>could work. So, Okay, they got a Stellar Blade DLC

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>coming up, and it's gonna be a uh what's the word,

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>a collaboration with near On atom of the autom out

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of Pier near On t with the what it is

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 1>not two D it's uh the girl with the white

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hair that got the eye patch you never playing.

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 3>It's all pg in.

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Who don't worry about it, which makes kind of sense.

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>It could work, So I want to see what they're

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do with that. That's neat because Stella Blade go

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to it. If that ain't like a Game of the

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Year nomber d, I swear to guy, it was a

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of pat white women over this board picking these games.

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing on it, yep. But game wise, I'm gonna

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>come and come next week with some more news. Oh yeah,

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that Medigan Solid Delton trailer is chef kids, go check

0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that bitch out.

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just mad, Hdeo is not part of this. I

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>still don't like that. I don't like y'all know, I

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>don't like how did hit that?

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 3>GMA? Yeah, but yeah, it's like damn good.

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<v Speaker 2>Re reached into another excited episode the Chap Nerves podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure y'all go check out Illuminati, and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>y'all go check out the Kickstarter campaign. You're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>the commable series. It's gonna be amazing, gonna come out

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be reviewing it very soon. They also gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be at the New York City Comic come October eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>at three pm. Gonna be an Illuminati panety with Dennis Axel,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlamagne the Guy, and some more o the creators of

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's sign off Drakes stressing you out. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's fulling you boy, co this up your

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<v Speaker 3>social budds like the motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of it, well, yeah, I'm thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at I think I'm at the end of the JIT

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<v Speaker 1>Counsel run through. You have the main storyline, h the

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<v Speaker 1>one through fifty story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I'm in a level. I'm damn I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>level like sixty eight right now. Oh type ship.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know I do the side missions on

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<v Speaker 1>the side mission assass and I'm doing all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>damn now. So yeah, I'm almost done with that. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do the DL season I think you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start my other Hunt solo playthrough just going

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the dark side.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know which one. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you starting no new character, you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>help me do random question and just cheering a little story, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know y'all mooting Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the dude gave me like a million dollars last week,

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<v Speaker 3>which you do so that I'm chilling in me a.

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<v Speaker 2>Instagramming, Grisa. I will be streaming with Tod this week

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you stream, so he's gonna keep me on and

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<v Speaker 3>I need stoking. Keep that I don't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's ridiculous, man, This is Trapps podcast. Yeah, oh, yeah, make.

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