WEBVTT - 023 Rich on Tech Radio Show - June 10, 2023 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.680 What's going on. I'm Rich Demiro and this is Rich 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.120 on Tech, the show where I talk about the tech 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.360 stuff I think you should know about. It's also the 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.440 place where I answer your questions about technology. I'm the 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.959 tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:23.800 to show number twenty three. Phone lines are now open 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.400 at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.600 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.840 me a call if you have a question about technology. Also, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.559 email is now open. You can send it to Hello 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.520 at richontech dot TV. And it turns out you really 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.920 like email. You love sending me emails, So I love 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.040 that you love to do that. But I gotta tell 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.120 you I may not be able to respond to every 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.880 single email. I get just kind of a general warning 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.400 out there because I do my best, but you are 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.040 really liking sending these emails, so I will read some 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:04.920 of them at the end of the show or throughout 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.360 the show. So feel free to call in at Triple 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.440 eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:15.200 four to two four one zero one, or Hello at 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.640 richontech dot TV. All Right, so today I'm coming to 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.840 you from a special place Alisaul Ranch in Santa Barbara 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.640 Wine Country. I'm here for a special event. And the 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.440 irony of this situation is that I did not plan 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.199 to do the show from here, so I was gonna 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.600 be up here, and when I got here, I brought 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.200 all my stuff to do the show potentially. But this 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.520 is a place, this is a ranch where people go 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.080 to get away from technology. There is barely a cell 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.200 phone signal, barely a Wi Fi signal, no TVs in 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.440 the rooms, no nothing, no internet in the room. I 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.120 mean there is a little bit now, no phones in 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.240 the rooms. So there was really no way to go 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.400 live from here until I tested and they said, well, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:00.680 we do have kind of like a little bit of 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.320 AT and T on property. And I said, all right, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.920 let me try this. And it turns out whatever there is, 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.600 our system works with it. So I'm coming to you 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.120 live from Santa Barbara Wine Country. I want to do 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.919 a special shout out to our listeners on KSMA Santa 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:19.000 Maria twelve forty AM ninety nine five FM. Turns out 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.600 a couple of folks here listen to the show from 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.840 up here. So very exciting. All right, this was a 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.800 very very big week. This was Apple's WWDC Worldwide Developers Conference. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.320 So earlier, I was up in Coopertino, California, at Apple's 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.280 campus they called Apple Park. It is incredible. It is 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.959 such an amazing experience. Anytime I go to any of 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.600 these tech events, it just continues to contribute to the 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.920 knowledge that I have, the experience that I have, the 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.280 memories that I have, the people that I know. It 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.639 is all incredible. But this week was a big one 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.720 for Apple because we finally finally got to see and 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.960 I got to touch and try the product that so 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.840 many people have been talking about for so long, Apple 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:11.160 Vision Pro. This is a vr AR mixed reality headset. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.840 Apple called it none of that. They call it a 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.200 spatial computer. This is a headset that you put on 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.480 that lets you do all kinds of cool stuff. I'm 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.840 gonna go more in depth about that in just a moment. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.680 But they also had some other products, a new fifteen 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.600 inch MacBook Air, which I can't believe they came out 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.280 with right after. Of course, I buy my fourteen inch 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.360 MacBook Pro, so now I want to get the fifteen 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.160 inch MacBook Air because it's lighter, it's thinner, and it's 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.960 got a much bigger screen than what I just got, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.960 so someone in my family may be getting an early 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.320 Christmas present. They also came out with a Mac Studio, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:53.640 a MacPro, and lots of updates for iOS iPadOS mac Os. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.520 The next version of that is going to be called Sonoma, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.560 Yes after the wine country in California. Watch os. They 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.360 made some updates to the health app, tvOS, and AirPods 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.960 is getting a feature that I've been waiting for forever. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.000 So lots of big announcements at WWDC. Perhaps the biggest 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.880 is this new thing called Apple Vision Pro. Now I 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.880 did get to go what do you call it? Head 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.440 on with this thing. I put this on, and I 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.160 will tell you I joked about this, I talked about this, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.280 But the world has forever changed. Now that this is 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.440 in our world, things are going to be different. Let 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.520 me tell you why this is unlike any VR headset 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.800 we've ever had before. And the reason is that Apple 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.040 took all of the pain points from the other VR 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.520 headsets that we've had in the past, and some of 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.520 them are very good, and they have gotten rid of 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.280 those pain points. The biggest pain point they introduced is 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.880 the price tag thirty five hundred dollars, which immediately just 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.760 kind of takes this out of the running for many 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.760 many people. But with that said, they did a really 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.839 good job with this device. So let me tell you 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.960 kind of some of the futures. So first off, you 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.040 put this thing on and it's got a screen on 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.920 the front, and you know, some adjustable bands and things, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.840 but when you look through it, it gives you an 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.600 immediate view of the world around you. So I was 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.480 sitting in this room and it just looked like I 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.760 was looking at the room. But then all of a sudden, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.600 when they turned it on, it wrote, incursive across the screen, Hello, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.200 in this big three D lettering that just floated in 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.720 mid air. And from that moment on, I had a 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.440 huge smile on my face and I just said, Okay, 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.279 this is incredible because it looks like the reality you're in, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.039 but overlaid with a virtual reality. And what does that mean. Well, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.560 some of the things we did. We opened up a 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.920 whole bunch of apps on the screen and you can 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.040 place them anywhere you want in your room, and it's 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.320 just like what you imagine the future would be like. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.240 You can stretch those apps to look really big. You 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.000 can squeeze them, make them look really small. And the 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.039 way that you control this entire whatever you want to 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:10.440 call it computer headset is with your eyes, your voice, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:15.440 and your hand. It's not a controller. You literally look 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.119 at what you want to do. If it's a button 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.800 on screen, you look at that button and then you 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.280 just press your fingers together and it will select whatever 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.920 that button does. If you want to flip through something, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.719 you just pinch and you swipe. It's kind of like 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.160 the movies that we've seen, all of the science fiction 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:38.360 stuff we've seen, except in reality. Inside this display, as 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.480 I kind of alluded to in past weeks, two ultra 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:47.839 high resolution displays, and it's so clear and crisp. It's 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.320 like a four K display for each eye. So when 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.680 you watch a movie on this thing, not only is 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.120 it crystal clear, but I was watching a movie on 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.599 what seemed to be a one hundred foot screen in 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.960 front of me. So imagine you live in a tiny 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.360 apartment in New York City, which, by the way, I 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.839 guess if you live in a tiny apartment in New 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.599 York City, you could probably afford to get this thing 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.040 because it's so expensive. But you could you no longer 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.240 need a TV. Why would you need a TV when 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.040 you can just put this headset on and now have 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.000 the most incredible system you've ever seen for watching movies. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.720 There's gonna be over one hundred Apple Arcade games at launch. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.520 There's this thing called immersive Environments. So I was sitting 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.480 there watching something on a TV, and instead of seeing 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.440 the world around me, I said, you know what, let's 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.800 tune out the world around me. So you turn this 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.520 little rotating knob. They call it the digital crown. You 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.200 turn that and everything just sort of blacks out and 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.000 you can say, oh, I want to be on a mountaintop, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.320 I want to be on the moon, I want to 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.160 be on in outer space. Whatever you want to be, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.040 you can be in that place instantly. Or if you 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.760 turn it the other way, you're back in your room 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.280 and the stuff is kind of superimposed on the world 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.400 around you in the room. There's also a three D 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.040 camera on this device. You can capture photos and videos 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.320 in three D. That was really odd to see this. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.440 So they captured a three D picture of a kid 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 of two kids on you know, in their room playing 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.800 and they were eating some cake and it was just 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.840 so weird. It looked like almost claymation figures in front 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.680 of you. And I can imagine that if you know, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.640 many many years into the future, when you know one 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.400 of your relatives is looking at these pictures later on, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.960 long after you've passed, it would really be emotional. And 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.360 then the video of the three D video clips were 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.040 so odd because the world sort of like blends around it. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.320 So it's like almost like, ah, gosh, how do you 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.800 explain it. It looks like a hologram, but it's the 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.679 edges are all kind of feathered, so it just blends away. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.880 It doesn't have like a direct start or end. Really 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.200 really interesting. The FaceTime call that we made, they do 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.400 something called a digital persona, So you scan your face 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.120 and the device makes a digital replica of what you 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.400 would look like in the digital world, and they call 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.360 it your person And so I was chatting with someone 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.920 who was using their persona because you can't see yourself 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.120 inside this thing, so it makes a digital side of you. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.320 And that was kind of weird because it's digital. It's eerie. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.760 It's odd, very very strange. Let's see apps you can 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.240 run all of the apps that you can run on 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.520 the iPhone, you can run these day one but of 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.360 course some of these developers will come up with new apps. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.680 There's a feature called Eyesight, which is really really odd. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.719 This is a feature that when someone approaches you, they 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.480 will see your eyes sort of through this device, but 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.120 it's really just your eyes, a portrayal of your eyes 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.200 on a screen on the outside of this headset, and 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.960 then when the person comes up near you, the headset 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.160 is using machine learning to notice that that's a human 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.160 and it will actually help them break through the screen 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.920 on the inside. So let's say you're watching a movie 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.240 on a big screen and your wife comes into the room. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.200 You will see her kind of come into the screen 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.720 and say, hey, what's going on, and you can interact 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.760 with her. When I put my hands up in front 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.320 of me, I could see my hands just as they 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.679 were right there. I mean, really really incredible stuff. All Right, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.000 I've got so much more to talk about with this headset. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.960 I'm gonna take a break real quick, but when we 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.960 come back, I'm gonna talk more about this because I 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.040 just can't. I can't stop. There's so much about this. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.000 It's so transformative. We're gonna talk more about that. Plus 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.960 coming up on the show, I'm gonna tell you about 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.439 the scam that involves your restaurant reservation. And then Brian Tong, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.400 tech creator, is gonna join me to discuss our time 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.480 inside this headset. He's gonna help me compare it to 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.200 other VR headsets out there. Plus your calls at Triple 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.680 A rich one O one. You're listening to rich on tech. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.880 Phone lines are open at Triple A rich one O 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.880 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.680 zero one. We're gonna talk about a scam soon that's 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.040 involving your restaurant reservation. This was a new one to me, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.439 but it makes a lot of sense. I'll tell you 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.840 about that in a moment. Plus phone an email in 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.080 Hello at richontech dot TV. And I've been talking about 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.480 this Apple headset Vision Pro thirty five hundred dollars virtual 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.920 reality headset. It's been in all the headlines this week. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.680 It is incredible, but it's very, very expensive, and so 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.760 I really really enjoyed my time with this. I had 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.800 about a half an hour with this device, and I 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.560 said in my KTLA segment that I'm sold on it, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.600 and I didn't mean the price. I'm sold on what 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.920 this thing means and what it can do. I don't 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.840 know if people are gonna be switching their computers to 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.160 this device immediately, but what it represents for entertainment and 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:41.240 for communication and for accessibility is going to be pretty 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.760 pretty wild. All right, let's go to line one. John 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:49.360 is in Rosemead, California. John, you're on with Rich. Welcome 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:49.800 to the show. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.560 Hey Rich, thank you, Thank you. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:54.360 Simple question. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:12:00.000 Email program for a PC that can handle multiple email addresses? 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.040 Good question. Uh. We talked about this a little bit 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.720 in a recent show, and I guess the main question 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.080 I have for you is you don't want to use 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.400 what's built into Windows or not the mail app? 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.200 Does it handle multiple email addresses? 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.319 I believe it does. I don't see why it wouldn't. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:23.800 I mean, there's a couple of ways you can go 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.520 about this, So you can you can use a program, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:33.040 you know, like a mail program or Outlook under okay, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.079 and so what do you like and not like about that? 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:42.160 Now with the program that I'm with, go Daddy my emails, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.480 I have to buy an extension and it's just it's 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.800 getting complicated and the size. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.240 Interesting. What do you mean you have to buy an extension? 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.240 It doesn't Is it not like a Standardized email address. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:56.959 No it is. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:03.640 But Go Daddy is making me switch from POP to IMAP. Yeah, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:09.480 now Mozilla is not. I'm not getting emails, so I 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.000 had to get an extension and I had to purchase it. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.679 Well, here's the thing I don't you may not need 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.400 to do that. I think that that the IMAP is 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.640 the main way that these you know, these email addresses 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.400 work nowadays. It used to be POP, right, but I 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.440 think I think what you have to do is I 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.040 think what you have to do is delete the POP 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.400 email and then set it up again as IMAP. And 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.559 from what I'm looking right now on their website, it 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.120 seems like it supports it natively. So I don't think 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.520 you would have to, you know, get anything different or 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.600 or sign up for something. Who where are you paying 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.640 the money to to use this? Is it Go Daddy 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:49.679 or Thunderbird? 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:51.120 Uh? 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.640 The extension is the third party extension on? 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.760 Is it Chrome? No, let's Chrome on. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.440 In order for it to work, I had to get 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:09.719 an extension in Mozilla. Okay, I don't know. Okay, some 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.360 third party company that I purchased it from. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.880 Okay, interesting, all right, Well, what I'd recommend is check 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.080 out mail number one. Just see if that works with 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.600 the multiple accounts on your computer. It's built in, it works, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.000 it's simple. You can also if you have a Gmail 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.720 account or if you have like an Outlook account, you 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.800 can just add your multiple email addresses inside there and 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.920 then check it from the web, which is what I 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.200 prefer because you can access that from anywhere, and so 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.760 I kind of like doing it that way. Otherwise, I mean, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.160 the Thunderbird program is nice. There's a couple other programs 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.160 that I don't know. I think they're probably a little 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.200 bit too much for what you're asking for and what 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.760 you need, because they're more like, you know, high end programs. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.480 Microsoft Outlook if you have access to that, of course, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.840 is a nice program which is going to work really well. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.360 But do you have access to Outline or no. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.960 I do have access to Outlook, But doesn't that don't 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.080 you have to have multiple each multiple tabs opened for 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.640 each email address. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.960 Oh, you're trying to get everything in like one unified inbox. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:21.000 Yeah yeah, okay, that's okay, okay, not not separated, got it? Okay, Yeah, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.280 that definitely, Uh, that might that might cancel out Outlook 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.080 in that case. Okay, Well, I think that the mail 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:29.960 does combine them. I think that might be the best 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.720 way to go then, because I think that's going to 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.120 be your your best bet. I would check that out 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.320 see if it works. And the IMAP thing, I'm I'm 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.640 really confused as to why you're paying because IMAP is 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.600 a very standard that's a very standard way of accessing 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.680 web email accounts, and so I'm not sure why you're 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.200 having to pay to do that unless you're Unless you're 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:50.840 paying go daddy. I mean they you know, they may 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.120 charge you for each email account, like I have websites 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.200 that you have to pay, So that makes that makes sense. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.560 If they're charging you for the the IMAP, you know, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.640 email inbox, that make a lot of sense. But otherwise I'll. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.680 Pay for that. But in order for thunder they're saying, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.400 in order for Thunderbird Mozilla to to get it, I 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:17.400 have to have an extension or the something something. It's like, okay, oh, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.480 I'll take a look at mail. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.760 Yeah, take a look at mail and uh. And also 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.720 I would not discount the fact that you can just 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.760 use Gmail and put your emails in there, and I 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.320 do that with a lot of with a lot of 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.040 my email addresses as well. They all come to the 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.479 same place. Another thing you can do is ask GoDaddy 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.960 to just forward your email to another email address, and 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.200 that way you can just get those all in one 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.760 email box, no matter where you use that. So there's 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.240 a lot of ways to do this, but I think 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.240 when it comes to the clients, it's really just a 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.600 matter of downloading a couple that you look at and 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.720 see and see which ones work for you, like for like, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.320 for me, if I'm looking at Thunderbird like it's may, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.080 it's maybe not a program that I'd want to use personally, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.280 you know, it kind of depends on what you're what 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.480 you're looking feel is that you like for a program. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.199 I personally like accessing everything from the web. It's just 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.920 simpler and I can do it on my phone as well. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.640 So good call, Thanks a lot, John, appreciate it. More 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.800 of your calls coming up next at Triple eight rich 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.160 one oh one. You can find me online at rich 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.760 On Tech, and coming up we're talking to Brian Tongue 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.120 about Apple Vision Pro. We're gonna head up to Coopertino 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.880 to do that. See you right back in a minute. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.199 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here on 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.760 location in Cooper Tino at the campus of Apple for 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:37.120 ww DC joining me. This is your third time on 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.920 the show. Count it up, Brian Tong YouTube extraordinary Brian, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:42.879 thanks so much for joining me. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.280 Am I the guest that's been on your show the most, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:45.960 so the most. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.720 Yeah, well that's an r. You're the guestest with the 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.159 most Yeah. Yeah, I like that. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.040 Thanks for having me. Rich is awesome. Fun to be 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.399 here at Apple Park. Always there's like a different energy, 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:02.160 especially when they reveal a new product category for them, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.080 and we got it. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.520 So okay. So, so I've talked about this Apple Vision Pro, 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.639 but you and I actually got to try this. We 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.280 did the demo and this was for selected folks here 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:20.359 at the event, and my mind is blown away. It 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.399 is really incredible. But I also understand that this is 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.200 just the beginning. So what's your initial reaction to Apple 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.280 Vision Pro trying. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:34.600 I laughed multiple times. I laughed more times. I got 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.840 up and kind of like just ran around the table 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.760 just to see how it feels. Because a lot of times, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.640 when you're wearing any type of headset, you don't trust this, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.920 even if it's kind of a black and white, fuzzy 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.919 version of the world. You don't trust it this Obviously, 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.439 We've many people talk about the highest fidelity, the richest 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.200 color we've ever seen in a headset, the highest resolution, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.639 the UI and the user interface, a vision OS. I 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.720 don't think people are talking about that team enough of 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.560 what they did and then the experiences they showed us. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.560 Maybe what ten percent of this thing can do. Yeah, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.800 and again, this is a product that you can't know. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.280 Anyone that's listening or even seeing our videos. It will 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.440 never translate how it is when you're inside of it. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.840 There's nothing like I've ever experienced before. I've tried pretty 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.119 much every VR headset. This is not a VR. This 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:28.919 is more of an AR experience primarily. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.359 Did you notice, by the way, Apple never said those words. 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:37.840 Yes, I know it's spatial computing rich, that's the buzzword. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.239 But it is. I mean, this is the thing. So, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.080 I mean, there's so many things to break down with this. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.560 Number One, you did exactly what I did. I got 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.040 up and I walked around that room. Now I've tried 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.080 that with some other headsets and you can't. It's possible, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.000 but it's not really possible. This. I got up, I 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.159 look down at my foot, I hit the table just 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.199 to see like how far it was. There was no 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.479 latency whatsoever. And I think the magic here is that 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.159 somehow they nailed bridging the real with the virtual a 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.639 in a way we've never seen before. 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.760 And it's all, you know, as they talked about and 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.439 we've known this for the past year's Apple Silicon is 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.240 the genius, is the brains, is the engine behind all this, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.520 and it has completely opened up their ability to do 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.159 something like this in a form factor like that, and 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.919 it just you know, you hear all these rumors, and 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.000 sometimes rumors can set your expectations. How about the fact 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.560 that they blew every expectation out of the water with 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.760 the at least the experience. I do have comments about 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.320 how it feels, you know, the weight of it all, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.760 but it I don't know. I've just talked about or 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.240 trying to explain it. Sometimes that speech is I just 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.479 laughed at I said that was just stupid, and they 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.240 were laughing, I mean saying, I was like, this is stupid. 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.680 I laughed. I laughed as well, like I was sitting 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.680 there like because it's one of these things. It's almost 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.320 like that experience of feeling something new for the first time, 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.160 where you're sitting there and like I was looking at 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.280 my hands, I was kind of just looking at the 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.280 op system, just kind of looking around, because you look 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.080 inside this headset at what you want to select, and 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.439 then you just pinch your fingers together and it selects it. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.359 So they nailed the operating system. We looked at pictures 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:16.000 in three D and videos. What aspect were you most 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.280 impressed with in the demo? 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.080 Absolutely the selection and the see people that a lot 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.760 of people haven't even had a headset experience in general, 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:26.680 and a lot of people have not had a headset 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:31.720 experience with emotion tracking. Now, the actual PSVR two does 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.920 a really amazing job of emotion tracking. Quite honestly, the 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.159 response miss is the same, but the OS is not 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.960 built for it. It only works in certain games, so 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.639 you don't get to like live this emotion tracking selection 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.800 world constantly. With the Apple Vision Pro, you're constantly doing 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.040 it and it becomes so second nature. I know my 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.159 mom could use this if she jumped in. If she 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.240 jumped in a lot of times when they say, oh, 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.280 you have to hold your hands in this general area 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.640 to do this gesture. Nah, and then the fact that 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.800 this these gestures, I was watching some of the developer videos. 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.080 Developers is gonna be able to make their own custom 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.840 gestures for their own games. Oh wow, this is going 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.679 to open up a lot more interactivity when we're like, well, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.080 how are you going to control these games with your 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.560 hands and your fingers? That's I mean, you talk to 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:20.040 some developers and I cannot wait to see what happens 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.359 with this canvas of basically unlimited potential. We were talking 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:28.520 in superlatives right now, but it's so appropriate. It's so appropriate, 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:29.240 it's crazy. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.240 Now. You mentioned the weight and feel on your head, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.560 so I it was a little bit heavier than I expected. 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:40.840 I think that that's a that's easily improvable over the years. 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.200 That's something that will just take a little bit of time. 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.760 But the comfort level was there, the clarity was there, 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:52.920 and again for a first outing product, they really did 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.800 a good job. It does exceed expectations. And it's one 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.240 of these things where I'm reading all the comments from people, 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.520 the hot takes that are coming in from social media, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.399 and people are like, rich, how can you have an 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.160 opinion on this, Like, give me a break, it's too expensive. 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.320 But I think what we're missing here is that this 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.080 is an entirely new way to compute that we've been 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.080 promised for years and now this is the beginning of it. 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.840 I think everyone is so fixated on the price, but 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.520 you have, let's strip that away for a second look 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.119 at the technology. And it's different because we have been 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.000 fortunate enough to actually experience it. 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:24.240 Now. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.640 Even before I experience it, I'm like, that is worth it. 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.760 And then when I experienced I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.680 this is crazy. And I'm not even saying that I'm 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.639 going to spend that money. You know, I do review 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.439 tech for a living. Will I buy it to review it? Yes, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.840 But if you ask me right now today what I 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.600 throw down thirty five hundred dollars for it, I'm they 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.679 really pushed me to the edge, but I'm still like, 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.440 I'm going to wait and see. And part of it 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.440 was just because for me, the comfort I had kind 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.399 of three or four ideas going into it. 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:50.760 I wanted. 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:52.800 I was hoping it would be the lightest kind of 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.040 headset we've ever felt. Because we heard about the reports 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.960 of the battery pack being separate, I was hoping that 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.920 would be a highest fidelity I've ever seen in a 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.560 had said that delivered on that. I was hoping that 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.080 we'd get experiences that we've never seen before. It delivered 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.520 on that, and a UI and a user interface that 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.040 was just smooth like butter, And it. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:09.679 Delivered on that. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.000 So three of those four right, and like you said, 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.080 it's going to get better. So I don't, at least initially, 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.080 I don't know if I'm going to be able to 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:18.920 watch a two hour movie with it, because quite honestly, 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.240 that's one of the killer apps for me. 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:21.360 Yeah, I saw that. 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.240 We've seen all the images at least of the strap 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.480 in the back, but it's also a modular where there's 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.200 a strap on top that they did not shove a 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.440 little still the scenes, which is also for weight distribution. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:33.480 Right by putting that strap on the top, it pulls 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.720 it back. And so I don't know about you. I 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.680 do feel the weight is a little more heavy on 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.960 the front, and I think part of it is because 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.479 it's so sleek. A lot of these other headsets, different designs, 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.560 different purposes. The battery on the back does counterweight it 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.440 and kind of pull it back down, and so that's 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:49.720 a design choice that they made. 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.920 It's not horrible, I'm not saying that, but after one. 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:54.919 I was like maybe ten to fifteen minutes and I 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.000 started feeling the weight because I've worn a lot of these, 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.000 and so my first thing right when I started feeling 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.320 I'm like, wait, am I going to feel this two 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.880 hours in for a movie? Probably? But the experience at 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.399 us is so good that I might be willing to 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.600 overlook it because the experience is so good. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.000 And I you and I've covered tech for how long? 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.080 Many twenty plus years, and so I think you and 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.720 I have this per se. Like I was going to 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.800 talk about some other podcasts, but I was almost like 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.679 I was so joyful. I was like about, it's so stupid, 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.320 but I was about to tear up because, like, I 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.720 can't believe what we're seeing, seeing how tech has evolved 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.639 all these years, and this something that you and I 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:32.840 genuinely love it. 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:36.080 It's something that'll do, it's something it's after all these years, 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.040 you're still experiencing something that's brand new. And by the way, 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.200 we're just at the beginning. So imagine in five years when, 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.440 by the way, the weight is a lot less, the 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.879 cost is a lot less. The features, I mean just 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.640 the features that I saw watching the movie, flipping through 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.480 the pictures, and it was all so simple. Like when 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.560 I was doing the hand gestures, it wasn't like I 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.840 had to learn something new or where the buttons were 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.480 or where the you know, how to do things. You 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.760 looked at what you wanted to do, and then you pulled, 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.280 you moved. It was just like we imagined the future 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:05.760 would be. 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.040 Think about this. A lot of people have talked about 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:13.240 for years about oh, what is Apple without Steve Jobs? 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.439 And there's DNA of course through the history of this 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:20.000 company that is in this product. But they've squashed that 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.760 talk now that you know they're not as innovative as 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:24.240 they were without Steve Jobs. 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:25.359 I think that's talked. 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:27.080 You can push that aside because this is the most 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.840 innovative thing we have seen, quite honestly, from almost any 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.160 tech company. Ah, it's exciting. It's an exciting time, my friends. 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.760 I'm staring in the air and smiling because it was. 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.120 It was a joyful experience. 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.080 Well, you got to wait another couple of months before 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.840 you can actually get this thing again, because early twenty 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.320 twenty four they haven't said when. Yeah, but we're already 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.639 trying to guess when that might be. Starting started already 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.919 at thirty four ninety and that doesn't include tax. But 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.000 here's the deal again, this is not something that we're 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:57.960 gonna sit there and say you have to get day one. 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.399 You will know if you're the person that wants to 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.160 get at day one, and if you have the means 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:07.000 to do that, by all means, it's going to be amazing, amazing, amazing. 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.199 Brian Tong, How can folks find you online? 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.520 The main place? Go to YouTube dot com slash Briantong. 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.879 I cover tech a lot of Apple, Samsung, Google TV's headphones, 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.600 whatever it is. I love tech, but I do a 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.160 lot in the Apple sphere and then on Twitter. Brian 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.000 Tong got a podcast. Do just look me up. If 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.680 the search engines work the way they're supposed to do, 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:28.159 you'll find me. 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.600 Brian Tong, thanks so much for joining me on the show. 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:31.840 Thank you, Rich, appreciate it. 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.879 Buddy more Rich on Tech coming your way right after this. 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.520 So many things to get to in the show this week, 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.439 many many announcements. We'll get to iOS seventeen, some new 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.560 features coming there. We've got some more information about Samsung's 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.560 next event, which I believe I'll be going to. That's 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.240 very exciting. Then We've got this new scam that involves 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.880 restaurant reservations. But first let's go to Susan online one 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.560 in Santa Monica. Susan, you're on with Rich. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:07.840 Oh my god, Rich, thank you. I love you. I 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.640 love your show. You your demeanor is just absolutely wonderful. 0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.200 Thank you well, thank you. 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.439 I just love your show. I was a little nervous 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.720 when when you started, and you know, but you're just fantastic. 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.040 Thank you. Well. 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.320 I was nervous when I started. I'm still nervoussparent wonderful, 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:27.399 thank you. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.480 Yeah, what can I help you? I'm buying. I'm choosing 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.600 a television for a friend. He's eighty five years old. 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.920 He lives up north, so I'll be helping him set 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.520 it up over the phone. And he we used to 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.000 buy everything from Costco. Costco does not carry video anymore. 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.280 I really like video. I have a video. He had 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.840 a video. Customer support is great with video, so I 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.480 just thought to keep things simple, I should probably stick 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.280 with a video. So one of my questions is going 0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:58.840 to be if you think I should get it from 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.600 Amazon Prime or Video Direct. But until we get to 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.040 where I buy it, I have two models. I'm comparing. 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.120 They're both twenty twenty threes. They're both forty three inch. 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.280 One is the V series V like Victor, and the 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.400 other is the M series. Do you want the two 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.400 model numbers? 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:23.280 I don't need the model numbers. Twenty twenty threes, okay, 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.800 So you've got the V series and the M series 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:26.400 of the video. 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.520 Yeah, twenty twenty three, right, and one of them. The 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.760 only difference I know of, there's two differences I know of. 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.880 One is a Q lead, which I know nothing about 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.800 the O And the other thing is that the Q lead, 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.840 which obviously is more money, has smaller speakers, and the 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.400 M series that's cheaper, has larger speakers. Not much of 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.000 a difference. Eight watts compared to nine watts divided by 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:56.520 two speakers. I really, my old old video has eight 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.360 watts and they're fantastic speakers. 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.320 And is the M series a little bit more expensive? 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.560 I'm assuming it will be yes. 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.920 Okay, because the M a V. I don't know if 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.480 this if it stands for value, but I believe the 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.440 V is the lower end of the two. 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.760 Yeah, definitely lower end. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.560 Okay. So I mean, what's what's the deciding factor is 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.480 at the price. 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.040 Of these two q let important. The V is not 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:23.400 a q. 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.400 Let them right, The V is not gonna Yeah, so 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.760 the q let is going to have a slightly better 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.840 display technology, you know, from more angles, it's going to 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.360 be a little bit brighter. Four K by the way, Okay, yeah, 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.239 I mean that's that's pretty standard nowadays. So what what 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.440 is important to the person you're buying the TV for? 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:49.840 Well, it's really more Well he wanted he wanted four k. Uh, 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.880 he doesn't know, he does. I mean I was ready 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:52.440 to get a ten. 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:52.720 A d P. 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.040 I didn't even realize that you've got to get the 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:55.640 four K. 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.640 Now, So well, I mean, yeah, you don't need the 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.920 four K. But almost every TV he has it nowadays. 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.240 Here's a LEAD and what is the other one? O LEAD? 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.720 Well, the OLEAD is better than q LEAD. So you know, 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:12.880 there's LED, there's q l ED, there's micro LED, there 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.720 is O LEAD. I mean, there's so many different types 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.440 of display technologies, but O LEAD is really the best. 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.640 All the rest are just an LCD technology, so they 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.320 all use the same technology. It's just a lot of 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.760 it is the type of pixels they're using, how many 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.320 they're using, and also the back lighting of that TV. 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.719 The more backlighting you have, the more the picture pops 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:36.600 in different places. 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.640 You knowing from a twenty two inch twenty year old 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.840 video or something, so he's gonna love or a five 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.600 year old Samsung. It's just either seven eighty or ten. Okay, 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:48.320 he's gonna love it. 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:49.600 Susan, I think I think you. 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.800 Just answered your own question you're saying. 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:52.600 I think you just. 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.880 I think you just answered. Just get whichever one I want. 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.160 Know what about this, I would say front, Well, the speakers, yeah, 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.640 I mean that's definitely a consideration. So the speakers on 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.000 TVs are traditionally not very good. Because you're saying that 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.200 your speakers on your video are good, then you know, 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.840 I think you'll be okay there. I was going to suggest, 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.560 you know, with the with the Roku TVs, you can 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.280 add an extra speaker very easily. They have like this 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.400 wireless speaker that works really nicely. But look, if you're 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.880 set on these video TVs, is there you can't see 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.280 them in a store. Huh, that's the problem. You can't 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:29.680 go and see them. Can you go to like a 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:30.760 best Buy and check them out? 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.400 No? But I'm assuming it's pretty much the way my 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:40.600 mine is five years old and they look pretty similar. 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.560 Yeah. I mean the speakers though, can be you know, 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.600 depending on the placement of them, they can be very 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:50.200 different sounding. That's the only sound, right, So you know 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:56.000 the look I think overall, the difference, well, there's I mean, 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.160 there's a difference there. But I think that the reality 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.920 is one of these is more of a value oriented set. 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.880 One is a higher end set. So if you want, 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.160 you know, the best that you can get at this 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.040 price point, then I would go with the M. If 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:10.880 you feel like it's not going to be that big 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.960 of a deal and you think that, I mean, look 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.800 what I tell people when they're upgrading from TVs. Ninety 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.840 percent of the time they're upgrading from a TV that's 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.600 ten years old. Anything they get is going to be better, 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.080 especially in this case, you're telling me he has a 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.480 very old set. So I think either one is going 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.280 to be fine. I think at the end of the day, 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.120 if the audio is horrible on this set and he 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.520 just can't hear it or he's having trouble, you can 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.800 easily add of a sound bar for under one hundred 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.560 dollars that will change everything. So I would just go 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.880 with whatever one you think if it's one hundred dollars 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.000 more for the better one, maybe just go with the 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.080 better one because he's going to be keeping this for 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.480 you know, another five ten years, and so if you 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.880 do the math, it's it's a pretty good value there. So, 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.320 but in general, the video stuff is nice, and you know, 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.480 I like their operating system. It's a it's a good 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.840 In fact, they're you know, Irvine company, so you know, 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.880 local to California as well. So I'm glad that you're 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:05.600 doing this form. Susan, thank you so much for doing 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.400 that for your friend. Great question. TVs are always, you know, 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.320 it's always one of these things where it's an impulse 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.160 by I've got a visio in my like kind of 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.960 den playroom and it's fine. It's got HDR. It was 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:21.920 very inexpensive. I picked it up. It was a forty 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.319 three inch. I picked it up at Costco back when 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.600 they sold them at Costco. Now I use it with 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.040 an external speaker, so I can't really vouch for the 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.840 speaker quality, but it's been great and it works just fine. 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.000 So a good question there. All right, let me tell 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:41.000 you about this scam real quick involving open table and 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.560 your restaurant reservations. So I got an email from open 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.560 Table saying there's an increase in scams targeting diners and 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:54.120 the hospitality industry. So apparently people are calling people asking 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.240 to pretending they're a restaurant and asking for your credit 0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.200 card details, often saying you need to request a deposit 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.920 for a reservation, and it sounds far fetched. You're like, 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.759 wait a second, you don't need a reservation. You don't 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.120 need a deposit for a restaurant reservation. But a lot 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.480 of restaurants, especially in the popular areas, are now requiring 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.320 not a deposit per se, but a credit card number. 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.600 So it's very easy to say, oh, hey, we're calling 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.320 from this restaurant and we need your your credit card number, 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.160 and you give it to them, thinking oh, that's kind 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.160 of odd, but you give it and next thing you know, 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.960 they're stealing your information. So just be very careful. Typically, 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.800 if you're using open table, you're going through open table 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.520 itself and you're putting your credit card info through there. 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.520 But just be aware this is now happening new scam 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.000 where someone will call saying they're from a restaurant and 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.720 they want your credit card details. If you're in doubt, 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.680 hang up, call the restaurant directly and then say, hey, 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.799 did you call and ask me for this? Don't call 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.279 back the number that they called you from, because it's 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.600 probably a scam too. You're listening to rich on Tech 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.160 Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.480 four to two, four to one zero one more the 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:06.080 show coming up after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.280 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, broadcasting live from 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:14.920 Alie Saul Ranch in Santa Barbara Wine Country. What a 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:19.439 place to be broadcasting beautiful, beautiful area. Sun's not out, 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.040 but you know, California has been seeing some interesting weather 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.000 over the past six months. I don't know what it is, 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.799 but it's still beautiful and it's still very relaxing, and 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.759 I'm quite impressed that we're able to do the show 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.200 from here because it's a place where people come to 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.400 disconnect from all technology. But somehow here we are very 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.759 much connected. Phone lines are open at Triple eight rich 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.719 one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.920 two four one zero one. You can email in hello 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:51.840 at Richontech dot TV. Let's go to line two. Michael 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.799 in Thousand Oaks. Michael, you have a comment about the 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:55.799 Vision Pro. 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.279 Yeah, more of a question. So a long time ago, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.200 when I or iTunes still had DRM, I kind of 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.400 chose the Google or the Android system. I went forward 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.520 from that. So I've never been attached to Apple, but 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.560 it's sounds like this new headset is kind of a 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.040 game changer, and I wouldn't mind getting into it. It's 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.000 just how hard would it be to integrate everything that 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:22.080 I like, whether it's Google Photos or Gmail or you know, 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.320 anything like that into the new Apple ecosystem. 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.759 Oh good question. So that's a great question because you're 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.080 you're talking to a guy who does use the iPhone 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:36.000 as his primary device, but has a loyalty to Google 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.040 products and services that I really enjoy. And so I 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.720 am using most of those things that you just talked about, 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.960 whether it is, you know, Google Photos, whether it's Gmail, 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:50.160 and so all of it works on the iPhone and 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.440 on Apple products. Some of it is just not as 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.600 good as it is on the Android side. And the 0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:01.440 two operating systems are very different. So Android let's developers 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.000 have a lot more leeway with what they can do 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.359 and how apps can interact with each other, and what 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:09.640 apps can do and all these different things, whereas iOS 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.000 is at its heart very much sandboxed, which means all 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.120 apps sort of have to run in their own little area, 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.839 and yes they can interact with other apps, but it's 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.960 very much in a controlled manner that Apple allows. So, 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.400 for instance, when you open up a link for a 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.640 YouTube video, ninety percent of the time on the Android, 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.479 it's just going to open up in the YouTube app. 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.800 But if you open up a link for a YouTube 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.799 video on an iPhone, ninety percent of the time, it's 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.520 going to open up in its own little tiny web 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.839 browser inside the app that you're using, and it may 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.520 not connect to your account. So let's say you want 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.200 to go back later on on your YouTube history and 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.680 see you know that you watch that video, it may 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.480 not appear on there on the iPhone because you're not 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.360 logged in, because it's using like a separate web browser 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.600 to do that. So it's just little nuances like that. 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:06.919 But overall, Michael, I think that the transition would be 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.240 a little rocky, but I think that everything does work, 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.520 and believe me, it can work harmoniously. It's just not 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.640 in the same way that if you were using all 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.640 of Apple stuff. I always joke with the iPhone, you know, 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.439 and the way Apple does stuff that you know, their 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.040 ideal is that you're using almost all of their own stuff. 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.719 And they've gotten a little bit better about this. But 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:32.560 traditionally the iPhone, the features that Apple builds into it, 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.759 they sort of work best. Gosh, like they use their 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.080 own stuff to their advantage, you know, like the music 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.799 app works really well, the notes app works really well, 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.879 the reminders works really well with Siri, and they've tried 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.239 to open things up over the years, but I just 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.840 don't know if it's to the extent of the open 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.520 and sort of free system that Google has going on 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.480 with Android. Now, look, this is an ongoing debate. I'm 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.839 not going to sit here and tell you one's better 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.440 than the other. I think they both very much have 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.680 their their pros and cons, and some people are die 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:08.319 hard Android, some people are die hard iPhone. The one 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.759 thing I will say that I do not that I 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.200 really really disagree with when it comes to what Apple 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.399 has done is I Message. And I know people love 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.400 I Message, but I am not a fan of the 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:23.520 fact that Apple has sort of broken this cross platform 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:27.719 communication between all phones in the world. So ninety nine 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.520 percent of phones in the world use something called RCS, 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.879 which is a modern text messaging protocol which can give 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.920 you you know, you can send through large videos, photos, 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.839 you can get read you know, indicators and typing indicators. 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.640 But Apple has decided to take your phone number and 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:50.560 make it their own I Message thing. And so that's 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.399 the one thing I do take issue with. I really 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.080 don't like that fact because people that are on I Message, 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.360 sure it's great, it's amazing, but when you start to 0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.319 text cross platform between I Message and Android, it gets 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.799 a little messy. And Apple has the means to make 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.239 it not messy, but they have so far chosen not 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.319 to do that. So good question, Michael. I wouldn't switch 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.319 over just yet. I think you've got some time to 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.440 figure it out. But yes, you are right. And this 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.799 is why Apple continues to come up with these game 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:20.040 changing products because they know that eventually it will have 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.600 that halo effect of getting people in their ecosystem. And yeah, 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.680 Apple products work really well with each other. They do. Okay, 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.760 since we're talking about Apple, let me tell you what's 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.640 coming up on iOS seventeen. This is the new version 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.920 of the software that Apple unveiled at WWDC. They showed 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.120 off a whole bunch of new features. So I guess 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.120 first things first, I'm going to tell you the bad news. 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.440 The bad news is there's a couple of phones that 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.799 will not be getting the update to iOS seventeen, which 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.680 means it's the end of the line for major software 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.440 operating system upgrades for these phones. And the three phones 0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:02.120 that it affects are the iPhone, the iPhone eight plus, 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.280 and the iPhone ten. Those phones will not be getting 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.080 iOS seventeen. So the ten are and up will be 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.760 getting iOS seventeen. And yes, it does include the second 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.600 generation iPhone se so if you have that, that's like 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.440 the last phone with a home button that will be 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.040 getting iOS seventeen. And that just came out a couple 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.360 years ago, so it's pretty new anyway. But if you 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.319 have the iPhone eight, eight plus or ten, you will 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.080 not be getting iOS seventeen. Now, what I'm not clear 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.360 on is if you will continue to get security updates 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.200 for another year or two. You may because Apple recently 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:39.920 with iOS sixteen, divided the operating system updates from the 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.279 security updates, so you may still get security updates. You 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.400 don't have to like toss your phone in the trash today, 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.440 all right. Couple new features in iOS seventeen number one 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.279 Live voicemail. This means that you can see a real 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.160 time transcription as someone is leaving a voicemail and you 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.080 can decide if you want to pick that up. FaceTime 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.759 will support audio and video messages, so if someone doesn't 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.640 pick up FaceTime, you can leave them a message and 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.000 also an I message. Is a new feature called check in. 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.200 This is a safety feature, so when you're leaving something 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.120 like a bar or school or wherever and you want 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.040 to tell a friend or family member when you're going 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.000 to get home, you don't have to do this manual anymore. 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.960 You can just say set a check in, and when 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.160 you get to your destination, they will see they will 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.800 get a text that has information that you've arrived safely. 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.520 If you go off course or you don't arrive in 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.319 a reasonable amount of time, they will get a text 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:35.600 that gives you information, gives them information about you. So 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.800 they'll get the device's location, the battery level of your phone, 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.160 and your cell phone service status so that they can say, like, huh, 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.120 it's odd, I guess they went to someone else's house 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.279 or where are they what's going on? And they can 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.960 take action. A new feature called name Drop is a 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.480 play on air drop, so you can bump two iPhones 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.480 together or an iPhone in an Apple Watch and exchange 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.360 contact information, which I think is a really really cool feature. 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.920 I wish that was just built into every phone, but 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.480 I guess it will be for iPhones. Let's see what else. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.200 Autocorrect is getting better. I know there's this big A 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.319 lot of people are talking about it on their Instagram 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.080 and memes and stuff, where it will now allow you 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.920 to use swear words. It won't automatically correct those to 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.880 a non swear word, and people are celebrating that. But 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.960 I guess I just don't swear in my texts enough 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.200 to be appreciative of that. But people are really really 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.440 excited about that feature. Then there's this thing called standby, 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.240 and this is when your phone is on its side 0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:37.480 and charging, it will display personalized information like your photos 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.359 or a calendar or anything else. It's got a lot 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.719 of different options. With the iPhone fourteen Pro, which has 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.560 the always on display, you'll always see it. On the 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.600 other phones, you'll just have to tap the screen to 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:52.000 see it. Then they've got this new journaling app. It's 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.880 called Journal and This is really smart. It's kind of 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.480 a health app. It will help you practice gratitude through journaling, 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.239 which they say has been shown to improve your well 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.479 being and I do believe that. But it does something 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.560 a little bit smarter. It will pull from things like 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.400 your GPS and your photos to kind of suggest starter 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.840 journal entries. And of course this is all encrypted in private, 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.080 as only Apple does. Screen Time will now tell you 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.520 when you're using your phone too much, so it's going 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.520 to try to help you avoid some eye issues. So 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.120 if you're holding your phone really close to your face 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.640 more than twelve inches for an extended period of time, 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.040 it's going to warn you and say, hey, you might 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:31.799 want to pull that phone back or take a break 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.760 for a little bit. Air tags can now be shared 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.480 with other people, which is nice. So if you have 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.240 air tags, you can share their location with friends and family. 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:44.440 Let's see what else. Oh, Siri is now just Siri. 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.680 You don't have to say hey, Siri anymore. Now you 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.160 can just say Siri. And again that's in iOS seventeen. 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.520 And there's a feature in photos that will now allow 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.040 you to recognize your dog and your caps you can 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.480 make an album for them. And finally, did I already say. Finally, 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.799 one more thing is called sensitive Content Warning. This will 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.920 help you avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos. So 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.400 it will screen the pictures that come in and the 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.160 videos that come in on your phone, especially through text messages, 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.239 and it will say, it will blur them out and say, 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.880 h some nudity in here. Do you want to see this? 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.240 And that can help protect you from unwanted nude pictures. 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.880 And yes, that is a thing. People send these things 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.359 day and night, every day, and again I guess it's 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.560 not something that I send, so I just don't have 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.160 a lot of experience with that, but it is a 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.040 nice safety protection. All right. There you have it. New 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.640 features coming to iOS seventeen in the fall. There will 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.279 be a public beta coming I believe next month, So 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.839 if you really want to try those out a little 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.240 bit earlier, there is an opportunity to do that, although 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.680 I only recommend doing that if you know what you're 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.839 doing with your phone. Coming up on the show, we're 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:51.000 going to talk to some award winning app developers. We're 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.759 going to head back up to WWDC and talk to 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:58.600 some developers of the app Flighty and another tennis app 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.440 that uses AI to check out your swing and give 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.360 you some information about that. Phone lines are open at 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.719 Triple eight rich one on one. You are listening to 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:15.759 Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.080 DeMuro here hanging out with you on a beautiful weekend, 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.239 talking technology at Triple eight Rich one O one eight 0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.040 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.759 We've been talking a lot about this Apple Vision Pro, 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:34.960 this new VR headset, and I'm just curious what you think, like, 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.520 are you gonna switch? Are you gonna pay? I mean, 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.160 thirty five hundred dollars is a lot of money. And 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.080 not only is it a lot of money, the way 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.120 that I think of things is you got to divide 0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.200 it up by how much you're gonna use this thing. Right, 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.920 So when I buy my laptop computer, yeah it's expensive, 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.439 but I'm gonna use it for three years, and then 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.239 gonna give it to a family member who's gonna use 0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.200 it for another three years, and then you know, on 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:01.800 and on, and you do the math on that, and 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.920 it's a pretty good value. But thirty five hundred dollars 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.080 for a first generation product, by the way, plus tax 0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.719 plus accessories, are they gonna have Apple care on this thing. 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.360 I mean, so I did the math. I've got to 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.440 save up about one hundred and fifty dollars for the 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:18.839 next think about thirty nine weeks forty weeks before this 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.719 thing comes out or whatever it is till January. That 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.560 was my goal. And so I don't know. I mean, 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.239 it's just one of these things where I don't want 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:27.880 to pay that money, but I kind of want to 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:32.480 have this thing. So we'll say, let's go to line one. 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.879 Nile is in Clover City, California. Nile. You're on with Rich. 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:42.160 Hey, Rich, first time caller, longtime listener. Well, I know 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:46.440 show he's kind of brand new, but I've been listening 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.200 to you as the text show for the longest time. 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.319 But I have a question about Apple Vision pro on 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:58.000 what you think, you know for the future application on 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.080 somebody that has a stick because the more impairment with 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:06.239 their eyes, will it be you know, useful for some 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.799 of them has a problem with seeing long distance or 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.040 you know or reading classes. 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:13.200 To the correct your vision. 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.440 Great question, and this is something that I talked to 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:21.200 Apple about. So I did my demo, which was I mean, 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.080 it's very you know, Apple is is very buttoned up 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:25.600 when they do all of this stuff, they have it 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.359 all figured out, so you go into this. They built 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.680 this new facility just to demo this device, and it's 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.600 on their campus and I imagine it'll be there for 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.480 the next six months because they're probably gonna have people 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.600 coming in to demo these things throughout the next six months. 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.320 Uh So I did my demo, and after my demo, 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.080 I got to sit down with some Apple people to 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.359 talk about, you know, any questions I have. And one 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.520 of the big questions a lot of people have is 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.160 what does this mean for people with vision accessibility issues? 0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.400 And Apple has really been on the forefront of many 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:58.799 many accessibility features and they are one percent committed to 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:04.040 making this work for as many types of vision abilities 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.279 as there are out there, and that ranges from low 0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:12.520 vision to partial vision to seeing issues, you know, whether 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:16.080 it's prescription glasses, whether it is you know, I even 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.080 had a question of if someone has only vision in 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.200 one eye, will it work. They didn't give me the 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.160 answers to all of these things, but they said they 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.279 have an entire team that is working to make sure 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.880 that this is going to be an incredible solution for 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:33.000 people that have different vision issues. And so when I 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.200 went in there, and I don't wear glasses, but when 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.919 I went in there, they actually did a quick little 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.719 vision assessment to say, hey, you know, do you wear 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.479 prescription glasses? And they had some lenses there that people 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.880 were able to put on. Now, from what I've heard, 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.239 the lenses are going to be an add on for 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:52.120 at least prescription lenses, and it will be you know, 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.319 we don't know the price just yet, but you know, 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.799 I've heard numbers being thrown out there. But this is 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.520 a highly personalized product. So when I asked the question 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:02.839 can I share this with someone else in my household, 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.919 it's really personalized because they measure the fit of your 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.799 face on this this light seal that they've got, and 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.760 so it'll come in a whole bunch of different sizes, 0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.799 so it's really personalized just for you. And then of 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.600 course it scans your irises to unlock, which is another 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.960 interesting feature. But niall a great question. I think that 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:26.440 Apple is going to really really think about how this 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.080 can can open up new worlds for people with low 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.960 vision and varying vision abilities, and I think that's a 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.920 really great thing. And just seeing this technology in person, 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.560 it's quite incredible, and I think that it should be 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.440 shared with as many people as possible and hopefully they 0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.919 do get that price down. So thanks for calling today. 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:48.200 I appreciate that. All right, switching gearsh Oh, you're still there. 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:53.480 Oh hey, I didn't know you're still on there. Switching gears. Here, 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.520 Let's let me talk about I know, I know, I've 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.560 said so much Apple stuff. So if you're listening and 0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:00.239 you're like, rich enough of the Apple stuff, I get it. 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:01.960 It's a big deal for Apple though this week. But 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.399 there is some Samsung news as well. Samsung is going 0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:09.560 to host their twenty seventh Unpacked event in Seoul, Korea 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.920 in late July. Now I told you there's a rumor 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.080 about this event happening. This is where Samsung is going 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.320 to unveil I mean, this is rumor. They haven't said, 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:22.560 but the new Galaxy z Fold five and the Flip five, 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.799 which is so wild because I remember specifically testing these 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.880 phones out last summer and I fell in love with 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.880 the z Fold five. It was such a great phone. 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:33.680 It was just that screen on the outside was just 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.120 a little bit too small for my taste. But I 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.239 feel like they're going to do a lot better with 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.440 this new one. We'll see. But this is happening in Seoul, 0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.320 South Korea, and that is going to be in late July. 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.960 They haven't said the exact date, but they're going to 0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.080 do this event at Cox And I'm not even gonna 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.960 try to pronounce some of these places. But it's a 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:59.239 cool area where it's a hub for startups and a 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:04.360 millennial boot temple. So you've got startups and buddhists. How 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:09.040 interesting is that. So I am doing my best to 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.680 get there. I've never been to Korea. I think that 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.960 this would be a great opportunity to go, So I am. 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:19.000 I've gotten permission to go, so I expect me to 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:20.640 be there, let's just put it that way. I've got 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:23.080 to rearrange a couple of things, but I am very excited. 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.880 And of course, you know, there's always some in trepidation 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.440 of going to a new place that you've never been before. 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:34.720 But I'm excited and so again, Samsung Unpacked usually happens 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:38.560 in New York, usually happens in Las Vegas, usually happens 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:42.880 in Barcelona, London, Berlin. They've done these in various countries 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:47.120 around the world, or various cities and countries. The first 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.360 was in March twenty ten in Las Vegas. And so 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.080 now they said, you know what, we're gonna do these 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:56.840 in different places because these devices represent something new, something different, 0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:00.000 pushing the boundaries. And so let's go to our home 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.960 town in Korea. And I'm curious because you know, we're 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:06.880 so iPhone centric here in the US, so I'm curious 0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.560 what it's like to be in Korea, where Samsung is 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:13.360 such a behemoth pretty much the Apple over there. So, 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.320 by the way, the Samsung Galaxy fold was introduced in 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.319 twenty nineteen, which means it's been about four years and 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:23.080 it's it's got a thirteen point six percent adoption rate 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.520 in Korea, which is the highest in the world. So 0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:31.320 these foldable phones are really coming in very very fast 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.840 from Google and now from Samsung and of course Apple. 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.480 Eventually we'll get there, all right. Coming up, we're going 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.680 to talk to two award winning developers of Flighty and 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.200 Swing Vision. We're heading back up to WWDC more rich 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:50.520 on Tech after this. Rich on Tech, Welcome back to 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.279 the show. This is where I talk about the tech 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.080 stuff I think you should know about, and it's also 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.680 the place where I answer your questions very special guests 0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.960 for you. We are on site at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.800 site of the Worldwide Developers Conference. I've got two great 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:10.439 app developers with me today. Ryan Jones of Flighty, who's 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.840 actually been on the show before, welcome back, and swap 0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:17.640 Nol Sahai of swing Vision. This is an AI powered 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:22.440 tennis app. You guys are both Apple Design winners. Welcome 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:23.960 to the show and congratulations. 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:25.360 Thank you for having us. 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.799 All right, so Ryan, let's talk first. Since I used 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.760 your app on my way up here. Flighty has gotten 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.439 so many accolades for its design. Did you set out 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:38.160 to just make like the most beautiful flight tracking app? Ever? 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.680 Honestly, it was something we talked about the guys that 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.200 are on the team. There's three of us, and we 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.680 kind of all came together around the idea of already 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.080 agreeing that it was a problem that there was no 0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:53.040 way for flyers to get this information fast and easily. 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:57.120 And when we were doing research on what did users 0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.759 want in the space, one of the things that people 0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.880 kept saying over and over was easy to use, which 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.080 you know, sometimes people will say, but a lot of 0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.400 times they won't. A lot of times they'll say certain 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:10.000 features that are specific to them, but the fact that 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.120 people just kept saying easy to use over and over 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.800 was really something that we thought we could hang our hat. 0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:19.880 On and swap noil this swing Vision app explain what 0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:21.920 it does well. 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.200 Basically, you just set up your iPhone at the back 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.279 of the tennis court and then it will track the 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:28.920 ball trajectory for you just using your camera, and so 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:30.640 you can tell whether the ball is in or out. 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.160 It can track all of your stats, it'll create highlights 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.759 of your game. It does quite a lot, and it's 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:37.960 pretty crazy that it just does it with a single iPhone. 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.960 I was going to say that sounds like something and 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.480 I played tennis growing up, so I'm very familiar with 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:45.719 the sport, but that sounds like something you needed a 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.560 lot of equipment for back in the day to accomplish 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.080 something like that. Definitely. 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.279 I mean even today at the professional level, if you 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.160 look at the US Open that's happening in New York, 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:56.400 they have ten cameras around the court to do this, 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.640 and so we're pretty much the first people to do 0:56:58.680 --> 0:56:59.760 this with a single camera. 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.239 And so what do you think the benefit is to 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.600 the player? I think it helps you review your footag 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.120 really efficiently. So if you play a match that's typically 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:09.160 two hours long, you can watch it in like twenty minutes. 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.280 You can say, show me every serve that I missed 0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.160 into the net and it'll immediately create a hot reel 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.720 for you. So it's really efficient and fast to revere 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:18.600 a game. And then the biggest problem in tennis has 0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.240 always been line calling. You have to call the ball 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.800 in or out yourself. We finally solve that for kind 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:26.000 of the average person, which is really exciting and a 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:27.760 lot of like high school college athletes will have this 0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:29.760 for the first time ever now and it just takes 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:30.440 one iPhone. 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.200 Yeah, it just takes one iPhone and we can see 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.040 both sides of the court. The camera is just so 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.800 powerful and the neural engine on the iPhone really allows 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.600 us to process all that information really quickly. 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.400 Wow, that is incredible. So when you get this award 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:46.439 from Apple Apple Design Award, what does that mean? Does 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.000 it get you more downloads, does it get people to 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:50.960 notice you? What does that mean to you? 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:53.640 Yeah, I mean it's everything. Like, as an app developer, 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.800 that's what you dream of. I actually came here back 0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.680 in twenty fifteen as a student scholarship winner for WWDC. 0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:01.480 So this is just kind of like the stuff you 0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.760 dream of. It's amazing for us to finally get to 0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:04.240 this point. 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:06.880 And Ryan, yeah, the same for us. 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:11.640 It really partly is kind of just an internal recognition 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.280 and a kind of a thank you. I think that 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.960 Apple's able to provide the community because a lot of 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.600 us know within the community who the other Apple Design 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:24.040 Award winners are. But it definitely is something that is 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.040 kind of a gold medal in our world. 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.240 Did you used to work for Apple at some point? 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:29.000 I did. 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:32.240 Yeah, back in operations, so nothing related to software or anything. 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:36.920 Worked in iPhone operations, more or less predicting sales and 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:38.320 bringing units over from China. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.800 Oh wow, but you weren't here in Kupertino, were you? 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:42.960 That's correct. I was in Austin, Okay. You're in Austin, 0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.160 beautiful place. I was just there by the way. Yeah, 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:47.160 it's our second biggest campus now. They have a big 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:50.280 presence there. Yeah, a lot of tech companies in Austin, Okay. 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.600 So while we were here, we saw this new headset 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:57.240 and I imagine your kind of brain is already working 0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:00.600 on the possibilities of how to code for it and 0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.360 maybe extend your app for that headset. Is there something 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.800 you thought of that could work for that? 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.160 Yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to sports, 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.440 at least, you know, there's an immediate application of just training. 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.360 You know, imagine you're playing tennis, you're hitting some serves 0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:15.520 and there's virtual targets that appear above the net. You 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:17.680 know exactly where you should be hitting. You could see 0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:19.720 kind of a shadow of another player and how you're 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:21.720 supposed to be doing your swing. So I just think 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.720 there's there's so many applications to sports, But I think 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:25.800 beyond that, it's just very exciting that it's going to 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.280 touch kind of every facet of our life. 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:27.520 Now. 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.040 Yeah, yeah, and we've been thinking the same thing. 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.040 You know, this is our first kind of look at 0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:36.360 it and real understanding of exactly what capabilities is going 0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.760 to bring. You even saw Apple highlight in the keynote 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.000 the actual usage of being on an airplane. So it's something 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.880 we thought about could potentially be applicable, and you know, 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.640 it's kind of endless possibilities. At the moment, we're thinking 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.640 about stuff like notifying you if you're flying over the 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.600 Grand Canyon and here you can get a little view 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.480 of what it would be like as you're going over it, 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.640 or hey, you can't look out the window because you're 0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:59.480 in an aisle seat. Here's what the skyline looks like 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.600 at the window. So there's just all kinds of crazy 1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:03.640 things that you kind of have to wrap your mind 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:04.520 around for the first time. 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:07.160 Are you ready to wear the headset for your next 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.320 flight to like watch a movie or something like that. 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:11.640 Yeah, maybe I'm a little biased, but I actually think 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.800 it's gonna be one of the first places people kind 1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.000 of think it's okay and adopt it out in public. 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:17.400 You know, if you think about getting on a plane, 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.240 people are already trying to kind of how can I 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:21.760 get the best noise canceling. 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:23.680 Possible, Like just make the baby go away. I don't 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:24.520 want to hear the crying. 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:28.080 And that's if you're a parent here just exactly so 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:29.840 the other people who wanted even more, you got to 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:31.120 bring them for everybody in your aisle. 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:33.320 I've been in that, believe me. I've got two kids 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.240 and I was I went through that whole phase of 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:37.480 flying and it's like, you don't want your kid to 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:39.520 make like a peep, and if you when you sit 1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:41.600 down in the row. You have to like almost apologize 1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:43.320 to everyone around. You're like, I swear they'll be a 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:45.960 good kid, They'll be perfectly fine. But now my kids 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:47.480 are just on their iPad the whole time. So then 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:50.280 even they're like, the flight's already over. Imagine when we 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:53.000 all have these headsets on them on. So, what do 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.440 you think is the most rewarding part of being a developer? 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.840 What do you think is like, is the feedback from people? 1:00:57.960 --> 1:00:59.520 Is it just seeing your app being used? 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:02.040 Yeah, I mean I think that one of the coolest 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:04.560 experiences was definitely this WWDC just running too. Some of 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:06.400 the developers around the world who like know our app 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:08.880 and use it, you know, whenever we get featured by Apple. 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:10.600 We've been featured in a few keynotes. It's just it's 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:14.120 always amazing that you just kind of get to be 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.240 a part of that developer community and also just kind 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:18.480 of the wider community of the world too, just random 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:19.880 people around the world using your product. 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:20.600 It's crazy and. 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.240 You've created this thing that didn't exist before. I think 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:24.520 that's probably the most rewarding part. 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.560 Do you have people in like different countries using your app? 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:28.120 For sure? 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.120 Yeah, I mean more than half for customers around the world. 1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:31.880 We have a bunch of people in Western Europe. Brazil 1:01:31.960 --> 1:01:34.640 is actually really big, China's a big country for US, Australia. 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.600 I mean, it's it's all around the world. It's really 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.800 crazy and I mean good playing sports everywhere, right, so 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:40.120 everyone needs it. 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:42.000 What were you doing before the app? 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:44.200 I was at Tesla actually, so I was working on 1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:47.240 the autonomous driving team there doing computer vision for tracking 1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:50.080 all the cars and pedestrians, and so that's where it 1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:52.320 kind of got more familiar with this problem of using 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:55.200 cameras to do really cool tracking of objects that are 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:58.680 moving really fast. And also been a lifelong tennis player, 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:00.000 so that's how I made that transition. 1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:04.080 And do you have plans for future apps different sports? 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:05.320 Are you going to stick to tennis? 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.440 Yeah, definitely, I mean that's the plan. You know, you 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.120 look at what Strava has done where they initially started 1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:12.080 on cycling, then they started doing running, and so that's 1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:14.920 kind of what we want to do to expand beyond tennis. 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:17.240 So this fall we're actually going into pickleball, which, as 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.000 you know, is oh crazy. 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:19.480 Yeah. 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:21.480 So and I mean in the future, you know, might 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:24.240 go to baseball or golf, there's lots of other applications 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:25.800 I think down the road for us. 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:27.880 Why did pickleball get so pop? I mean, I knew 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:29.440 people that were playing that a long time ago, but 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:31.360 why did all of a sudden just was like a 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.520 movie or TV show? What made that so popular? 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:35.280 It's it's weird. I mean, I think a lot of 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:38.000 investment just came in. Pandemic also helped because there's one 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:40.200 of the few sports you could play outdoors, right But 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:43.240 I think that ultimately it's just really accessible. You can 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:45.000 just pick it up right away. You know, there's no 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:47.520 crazy motion that's hard to learn, like a serve in tennis, 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:49.800 So it's just super accessible. You can have people at 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.520 different levels playing it. To be fair, I still prefer 1:02:52.560 --> 1:02:54.720 tennis personally, but I see the appeal of pickable and 1:02:54.720 --> 1:02:56.200 I understand why it's going so quickly. 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:59.240 Does anything translate from the tennis skills to pickle ball? 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:00.280 Oh for sure? Yeah. 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:01.680 I mean I think I think my fourhands are going 1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:03.160 to work pretty well on the pick up bow court. 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:05.840 Okay, maybe I'll try. I know, the courts smaller, Ryan, 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:08.000 how about you, What's what do you get out of 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:08.280 all this? 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:08.520 Like? 1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:09.120 Personally? 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:12.760 Yeah, the I think someone was trying to explain what 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:15.480 WWDC is kind of to us earlier this week, and 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:19.360 it's some sort of combination of Christmas but also New 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:23.080 Year's Day. It's just like you definitely feel the feeling 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.360 of getting new presence and the excitement of like, oh 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:26.920 my gosh, what are the capabilities we're going to be 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.200 able to add to apps this year? And then for us, 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:31.400 it really is kind of the start of the calendar 1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:35.520 getting ready for the I was seventeen and all the 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:38.120 new hardware and software to roll out, you know, the 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:43.480 the year usually, And it's also incredibly motivating. It's so 1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:46.920 cool to see, like other developers, what other cool people 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:49.320 are doing, like just swing Vision and stuff that you 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:51.560 know you didn't even know existed. You get to talk 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:54.360 to amazing users who typically have really good feedback. It's 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.440 just honestly a big kind of uplifting moment for kind 1:03:57.440 --> 1:03:58.120 of the whole team. 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:00.200 All right, Ryan, tell folks how to find your app. 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:01.080 It's called Flighty. 1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:04.760 Yeah, Flighty, So the website is flightyapp dot com and swapnil. 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:06.479 How do you find swing Vision. 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:09.520 You can just find us at swing Tennis on our website. 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:12.120 And then We're on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram. It's 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:13.479 just Swingvision app, all. 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:17.320 Right, very cool. Swapnil Sahai of swing Vision, the AI 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:21.040 powered tennis app, and Ryan Jones of Flighty, the most 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:23.360 beautiful flight tracking app you'll ever download. Thanks so much 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.320 for joining me today on the show. I'm rich damiro 1:04:25.520 --> 1:04:33.840 More rich on Tech. Right after this, welcome back to 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:37.360 rich on Tech. Rich Damuro here hanging out with you 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:42.959 talking about technology. You can find me online at rich 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:46.200 on Tech. So most of the time hanging out on Instagram. 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:49.480 If I've been talking up this place. I'm doing the 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.520 show from the Alisol Ranch. If you want to see 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:54.560 some behind the scenes pictures, you can go to my 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:57.920 Instagram stories at rich on Tech. You can see some 1:04:57.960 --> 1:04:59.840 of the beauty up here. I'll post some more as well. 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:04.400 Let's see what else I'm on Facebook, same rich on Tech, Twitter, 1:05:04.600 --> 1:05:09.440 rich on Tech, and Tom wrote in on Twitter. Hey, Rich, 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:12.440 I'm really enjoying the show on KFI this Saturday. Just 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:14.680 wondering if you plan to use a VPN on your 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:17.520 trip to the Samsung event this July. Please let us 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:21.520 know as I am a traveler. Also, thank you, Tom. 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:24.360 I don't typically use a VPN. I did, so here's 1:05:24.400 --> 1:05:27.360 my delineation. I mean, when I went to China, it 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:29.760 was essential you had to use a VPN because you 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.840 can't really access a lot over there. Korea, I'm not sure. 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:35.880 I don't know if they have the same restrictions. I 1:05:35.880 --> 1:05:38.640 don't believe they do. But if I do need to 1:05:38.760 --> 1:05:42.480 use one, I will. I actually used one here when 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.880 I was on the public Wi Fi. Anytime you're accessing 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:50.680 sensitive information like bank account, if you're checking your balances 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:54.120 or doing any kind of banking, I would definitely recommend 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.720 using a VPN. Or if you're on your cell phone, 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:59.520 it's very easy. Just disconnect from the Wi Fi and 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:01.640 just use your cellular connection. That's going to be nice 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.440 and nice and secure. So if you're on your phone, 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:06.880 you know, you really if you have a cellular connection, 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:09.760 you can just use that. Just disconnect from the Wi 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:12.240 Fi so nobody can sniff out what you're doing or 1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:15.880 what you're entering, and look, ninety nine percent of the 1:06:15.880 --> 1:06:18.360 time you're going to be okay. But my point is 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:21.040 if you're trying to do something that's that's secure, or 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:24.160 if you're exchanging something that's very secure, banking online, all 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:27.040 that stuff. You probably want to use a VPN. Now, 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:29.200 when it comes to VPNs, a couple of things to 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:32.120 look for. Did a story with k with for Ktla 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:34.400 about VPNs and we talked to an expert and this 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:39.240 is what they recommended. Wire guard versus open VPN. Wire 1:06:39.280 --> 1:06:44.400 Guard is a little bit more modern and so it's secure, 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:47.760 it's fast, it's easy, and open VPN is a little 1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:50.480 bit older, so it's more tried and true, but it's 1:06:50.560 --> 1:06:52.840 you know, the wire guard is kind of more modern. 1:06:53.680 --> 1:06:55.920 On the website of the VPN you choose, you want 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:59.120 to look for independent audit audit results, so make sure 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:02.240 that someone's independent verifying that they do not keep logs 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.640 or whatever else they do that they say they do. 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:08.080 Look for independent results on that. And then you want 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:09.760 to make sure that the VPN you get works on 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:13.080 your various devices. So if it works on iOS, Android, 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:16.280 your computer, make sure they have various apps for the 1:07:16.320 --> 1:07:20.040 different platforms that you use. With all that said, a 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:23.720 couple of recommendations here. Molvad m U l l VA 1:07:23.840 --> 1:07:29.240 D was our expert's top pick. Then IVPN surf Shark 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:33.000 and tunnel Bear were also top picks, and then the 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:37.600 other one is VPS. So if you have Google, you 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:42.240 can use Google One and they have if you pay 1:07:42.280 --> 1:07:44.920 for sorry, if you pay for Google One, then you 1:07:44.960 --> 1:07:48.560 get a VPN included for free, and they've got apps 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:52.240 for Android, iOS, Windows and Mac devices. And if you 1:07:52.280 --> 1:07:55.520 pay for a password manager, you may also get a 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:59.000 VPN included with that as well. So a lot of 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:02.760 different ways to to do that and get the VPN coverage. 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:04.920 But again you want to look for certain things and 1:08:05.000 --> 1:08:08.040 make sure that it works on all of your devices. 1:08:09.120 --> 1:08:10.920 Good question there. All right, let's see do we have 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:15.320 another question here? We got an email question. Hey, Rich, 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:17.200 I have a website that was set up many years 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:21.080 ago when Microsoft front Page was popular. The site's pretty basic, 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:23.519 so for many years I've been able to create, copy, 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.880 edit new pages with front Page. It works fine with 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:29.200 Windows seven, but I'm pretty sure it's incombatible with Windows eleven, 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:32.000 which I'd like to upgrade to. Because you suggest any 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:34.960 website editing programs that would be easy to use and learn. 1:08:35.000 --> 1:08:37.800 Thanks so much, Jay in Houston. Jay, I think the 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:42.760 world has switched to online website builders, so I would 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:46.920 use one of those. I would use something like Wicks 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:49.360 is probably the most popular that's going to let you 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:52.439 get started for free. They do have some free levels 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.640 of plans that you can use. I'd probably use that. 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:59.160 Weebley was another one, but they were actually bought by Square. 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:02.439 They're more about e commerce, so you may not need 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:04.400 the features that they have, but they also have a 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:08.240 free plan you can use with that. And square Space 1:09:08.320 --> 1:09:11.040 is also really nice, but you're gonna have to pay 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:13.120 for that one. But it's gonna be simple and easy 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:16.400 and beautiful, but Square Space is going to cost money. 1:09:16.960 --> 1:09:19.080 And you can also look into things like Google Sites. 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:24.040 They have a free website building program, and you know, 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.400 you can also do it yourself, or if you really 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:29.559 want to get fun, you can use one of these 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:33.880 new programs like chat, GPT or bard to help you 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:38.040 write your program to write your HTML for your website, 1:09:38.080 --> 1:09:41.360 So that could be kind of fun. But otherwise, those 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:45.439 are some of the options you can go for. All right, 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:47.439 so I am remote, So I'm a little confused on 1:09:47.479 --> 1:09:49.680 our time here? Do we have time to take a 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:54.120 call or no? Is that okay? Yeah, okay, let's go 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:57.160 to line three. Jay is in el segundo. Jay, you're 1:09:57.240 --> 1:10:00.160 on with Rich. Sorry about that, I got sidetracked here 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:02.880 because this show is going so fast. Maybe it's the uh, 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:07.000 the country air I'm breathing. What's going on? Hi? 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:07.360 Rich? 1:10:08.200 --> 1:10:08.400 Hey? 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:11.919 I was calling. I wanted to set up my internet 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:16.679 out in my garage right now, and I was wondering, 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:20.360 do you have any suggestions or things I need to 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:24.360 consider when running cable a long distance about one hundred 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:29.360 feet underground to get an Internet signal out out that 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:32.759 far from where my current internet is in the house. 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:38.080 Oh uh, that's that's above my pay grade. I I I. 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:41.680 Anytime it's anytime I'm running some cable or wire, I'm 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:43.599 usually asking a pro to do it. Have you done 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:45.120 this before yourself? 1:10:45.360 --> 1:10:46.240 No? 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:48.559 No, I mean I all I did when I when 1:10:48.600 --> 1:10:52.880 we uh renovated our house, you know, after the cable 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:57.160 people ran the Internet signal into the attic, I hooked it. 1:10:57.160 --> 1:11:00.960 All up in there. And I have of a just 1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:04.160 a cheap little router that goes into a switch that 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:07.400 goes into a Google Wi Fi router, and then I 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:10.280 got three of those in the house. That uh, and 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:11.160 that'd be great. 1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.559 Yeah. Have you tried bringing one out there? It won't 1:11:14.640 --> 1:11:18.920 it won't span that hundred feet Huh. No, Yeah, I 1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:21.360 wouldn't think. So, Now do you have any way to 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:24.280 run this line? Is it going to be? Are you 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:27.160 hanging it or outside? Are you running it underground? How 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:29.720 are you doing it? What's what's the most method there? 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:33.720 Yeah, we're renovating our garage also, so we are going 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:37.880 to be running a We'll have a trench and be 1:11:37.920 --> 1:11:42.320 able to run the line underground and you know, whatever 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:46.800 piping that we need to and then basically have a 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:50.680 cable coming out inside the garage. I'm just wondering, you know, 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:53.720 does it need to be a special cable or can 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:57.599 it just be a cap five cable you know that 1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:01.000 you get from an Amazon or something like that that's 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.040 just one hundred feet long or one hundred and fifty 1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:04.680 Probably one hundred feet would do it. 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:08.800 Yeah, I mean I would. I would consider, you know, 1:12:09.000 --> 1:12:12.560 maybe a more industrial cable if they have one, like 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:14.440 I would look at. Have you looked at like monoprice? 1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:18.000 Yes, yep, okay, so I would. 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:20.320 I would. I would look there and see if they 1:12:20.400 --> 1:12:22.920 have more of a you know, maybe an outdoor cable 1:12:23.120 --> 1:12:25.000 or something like that that is a little bit more 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:27.479 protected from the elements and your standard cable that you'd 1:12:27.560 --> 1:12:30.320 use inside, because this thing, even though it's going to 1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:33.439 be in a trench and inside a a you know, conduit, 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:35.160 you want to make sure that this is going to 1:12:35.240 --> 1:12:36.760 last for a long time. And so I would I 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:40.320 would assume that they have that. Again, I haven't, I know, 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:42.639 I have no experience with that. I've never run I've 1:12:42.680 --> 1:12:45.320 never run a gable underneath. I'm too scared to do it. 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:46.960 But I've been wanting to build a shed, so I 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.120 guess i'd learn. But I would call up a couple 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:51.600 of you know, a couple of people and you know, 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:53.439 on Yelp, and just see what they say, See what 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.640 they say about how much this would cost, and if 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.320 it's that big of a deal, and if you can 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:59.439 do it yourself, or if you're just gonna have whoever 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:01.960 runs this trench kind of just run. You can do 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:04.360 this yourself and run that cable inside. But I would 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:06.280 check out Monoprice to see if they have more of 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:10.120 an outdoor style cable versus the standard cables that you'd 1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:12.759 run inside. I would believe they would, you know, cable 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:14.799 that can withstand a little bit more of the elements. 1:13:14.840 --> 1:13:17.880 So it sounds exciting. I've always wanted one of these 1:13:17.920 --> 1:13:20.320 like garage setups. That's that's been my goal. I've been 1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:22.400 talking about it for like five years at my house. 1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:25.479 So maybe one of these days we'll swap stories about 1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:27.639 how much fun it is to have a little shed. 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:31.160 All right, Janelsigudo, thanks so much for calling. More of 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.040 your calls at Triple eight rich one oh one, you 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:39.479 are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to the show. 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:43.760 Rich Demiro here tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:45.479 Los Angeles. So if you ever want to watch some 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.320 of the things I do on TV, you can go 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:52.000 to my website rich on Tech dot tv Let's see 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:53.760 what Else podcast. 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You can see what it looks 1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:34.120 like to set up the show from start to finish. 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:36.960 So that's kind of fun. Let's see. Can I post 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:39.759 anything to Instagram this week of interest? Let me say usually, 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:41.879 I kind of go through some of the videos I posted. 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:43.840 It's sad if I say I didn't, Oh I did. 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:47.360 I posted like a hands on or I couldn't show 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:48.880 you the hands on. But I did post some of 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.600 the Apple's virtual headset, the division pros, and some of 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.960 my pictures from Coopertino as well. All Right, what I 1:14:55.960 --> 1:14:59.559 love about this show is instant feedback. And so Reid 1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:04.479 called from Riverside, California and suggested for Jay. He was 1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:07.360 asking about, you know, running the cable from his house 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:12.360 underground to the garage, the Ethernet cable, and Reid says, 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:16.120 as a construction worker, they run the cables inside PVC 1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:19.760 pipe for protection when burying underground. Yeah, you don't want 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:21.599 to just put these things in the ground, that's for sure. 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:23.400 You don't want to just like put the dirt over 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:25.800 it and you're like, okay, there it goes. And then 1:15:25.840 --> 1:15:28.800 I looked on Monoprice for an outdoor cable, and sure 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:32.760 enough they've got it. It's a it's a twenty four 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:37.800 AWG cable, which is a higher gauge, and it is 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:40.599 one hundred feet. Is going to set you back thirty 1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:45.080 two bucks. So that's pretty good one hundred foot monoprice cable. 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:49.160 And then we got an email from Sandy. She was 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.759 listening to the interview with the two developers and said, 1:15:51.920 --> 1:15:56.000 is Flighty only for Apple? Yes, it's only for Apple. 1:15:56.040 --> 1:15:58.680 At this point I have asked the developer, well they 1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:01.720 make something for Android, and they maybe in a couple 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:04.240 of years, they said, but they're just not committing. They 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:06.000 said they have too much going on with Apple right 1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:09.040 now in iPhone and it's just doing too well, and 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.240 so they just really see a lot of momentum there. 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:13.560 I know it's such a great app. I wish I 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:15.840 had it on both platforms. I really do. And I'm 1:16:15.840 --> 1:16:20.720 almost almost hesitant in general to recommend things that are 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:23.439 not on two platforms because I do believe that cross 1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:26.519 platforms should be the way to go for anything. I 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:29.439 try to choose cross platform platform apps for almost any 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:32.360 app that I use because I like the idea that 1:16:32.479 --> 1:16:38.160 it's accessible to everyone speaking of big changes. This is 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:42.960 really really incredible news and it's it's this means a lot. 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:45.400 I don't know what it's going to mean in the 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:50.280 future for electric cars. But GM has now followed in 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:56.280 Ford's footsteps and they are now committing to the Tesla 1:16:56.680 --> 1:17:01.760 super charger network. So that is really interesting move. So 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:07.360 GM is going to integrate the Tesla charger standard into 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:11.240 their new evs starting in twenty twenty five, and then 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:13.960 GM customers will be able to access twelve thousand Tesla 1:17:14.000 --> 1:17:18.439 superchargers in early twenty twenty four. And that means they're 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.800 going to ditch the other charging infrastructure and I guess 1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:24.120 you'll still be able to charge maybe at these other places. 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:28.040 But the fact that now GM and Ford are adopting 1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:33.559 Tesla supercharging technology is really telling for this industry. So 1:17:33.600 --> 1:17:35.519 we kind of have a you know, a war going 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:39.439 on between these different standards, and the fact that Tesla 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:42.800 is a private company building this supercharging network is you know, 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:46.559 not everyone likes that idea because it's it's a lot 1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:51.000 of power for one company. And so GM says they're 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:54.519 also going to integrate the Tesla supercharger network into its 1:17:54.600 --> 1:17:57.840 vehicle and mobile apps you can locate, pay for, and 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:03.439 initiate charging at a available superchargers. It says this will 1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:07.200 complement the charging experience at their own network of Ultium 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:11.519 Charge three sixty stations and additional charging stations GM makes 1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:15.280 available through its existing integrations with other charging networks. That's 1:18:15.400 --> 1:18:18.840 very obscure, right, It's like they're like, ah, well, we'll 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:23.439 just continue to support that until we don't. Okay, But anyway, 1:18:23.880 --> 1:18:26.840 the momentum is there for this Tesla supercharging network. Now 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:29.720 I talked about this last week. You know, if I 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:32.000 was going to get a car, it's not just limited 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:35.000 to Tesla anymore because they have the best network for charging. Now, 1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:36.880 I'd say, okay, let me take a look what Ford has. 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:39.760 Let me take a look at what GM has. Let's 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:44.519 go to line one. Rudy is in Woodland Hills, California. Rudy, 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:46.200 you are on with Rich. 1:18:47.240 --> 1:18:50.360 Hey, thank you, sir. So just have a quick question. 1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:51.920 I'm going to. 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:55.400 Oh, Rudy, I can't hear you. You got you gotta 1:18:55.439 --> 1:19:00.200 move to a little bit of better location. Try again. Yeah. 1:18:59.880 --> 1:19:04.160 Now I'm handing Berlin, Germany on July six for ten days. 1:19:04.160 --> 1:19:08.280 You want to know what you recommend to communicate. 1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:10.920 With family back home, be a phone, be it WhatsApp. 1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:11.879 What do you recommend? 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:16.800 Oh? Good question. So again this kind of goes into 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:19.320 what I was talking about with cross platform stuff. If 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:23.720 you're all on iPhone, go ahead, use I Message, use 1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:27.400 Wi Fi. You can use Wi Fi calling through your provider. 1:19:27.920 --> 1:19:30.519 You can turn that on in the settings. Make sure 1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:35.160 that your cellular provider supports that. They probably do. You 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:38.720 can also use what's called FaceTime audio, but again that 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:43.080 only works if you're everyone you're communicating with has an iPhone. 1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:46.559 Now a lot of people do, but I think that 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:50.120 cross platform is a little bit easier. So WhatsApp, if 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:52.559 you can get everyone to download that, we'll do everything 1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:55.080 you need. You'll be able to make video calls, you'll 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:58.719 be able to chat, and that's going to do ninety 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:01.320 nine percent of what you need. The other solution that 1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:04.400 I use with my family is called Telegram, and it's 1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:07.160 very similar to what's app, except it's not end to 1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:09.640 end encrypted by default, so you do have to know that. 1:20:09.720 --> 1:20:13.240 They do have end to end encryption options, but it's 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:16.479 not by default, so you can use that. But again, 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:20.080 the whole name of the game here is you need 1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:22.800 to get everyone to download the same app if you're 1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:25.720 going to communicate with them. Otherwise it's just on a 1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:28.200 one by one basis. So if you know that your 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:32.960 you know, mother uses Telegram, use that for her. If 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:36.040 you know that your sister is using an iPhone, use 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:40.519 FaceTime and FaceTime audio for them, and for anyone else. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:41.920 If you need to make a phone call, you can 1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:44.839 use Wi Fi calling and you know Wi Fi texting. 1:20:45.479 --> 1:20:47.599 So the main thing is if you want to save 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.960 money on your cellular you can turn off your cellular 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:54.280 connection and leave on the Wi Fi calling connection and 1:20:54.320 --> 1:20:56.840 that should take care of you know, text messages and 1:20:56.960 --> 1:20:59.679 phone calls. Every carrier is just a little bit different 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:02.760 when it to this stuff. But for me personally, I 1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:05.200 would just try to get a cross platform app before 1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:09.839 you leave that everyone uses now the Silent the Silent 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:11.640 app and all of this. That's kind of like the 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:15.760 universal app. That's kind of a secret solution that many 1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:19.559 people don't think about is Instagram. Almost every person that 1:21:19.680 --> 1:21:24.360 I know is on Instagram, and Instagram handles the video 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:27.519 and audio and also chatting, and so why not just 1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:30.640 use Instagram if someone's there. This is the problem with 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:32.280 and this goes back to what I was talking about 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:35.240 Apple with the whole FaceTime and you know, an I 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:38.360 Message thing is that you think it would be easy, 1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:40.599 You think that this would work the same way everywhere, 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:43.080 but it doesn't. In different parts of the world, people 1:21:43.200 --> 1:21:46.479 use different apps. So if you're in Asia, a lot 1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:50.000 of people use line or we Chat. If you're in Europe, 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:52.519 it's all about WhatsApp. If you're here in America, it's 1:21:52.560 --> 1:21:57.559 all about I Message. International is telegram, So you really 1:21:57.600 --> 1:21:59.840 have to come to where your friends are and me 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:02.360 them in the middle. So reach out to the most 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:04.600 important people you know that you want to contact on 1:22:04.640 --> 1:22:07.800 this trip and just kind of assess from there and 1:22:07.840 --> 1:22:10.599 see what they use. So personally, I've had a lot 1:22:10.600 --> 1:22:15.719 of good luck with something like telegram with my family 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:18.479 because it's just very simple, Like everyone knows that they 1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:21.080 can reach me on telegram and it's going to work 1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.639 the same no matter what country I'm in, and I've 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:26.719 used it all over the place and it has worked 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:29.400 really great. The other thing is that Wi Fi calling 1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:31.920 is super simple to set up and it's free, So 1:22:32.000 --> 1:22:33.960 as long as you're on a Wi Fi network with 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:37.240 your provider, you're good to go. But again you want 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:40.320 to toggle that on before you go. And then the 1:22:40.360 --> 1:22:43.759 only other thing if you want to use a SIM card, 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:48.479 an international SIM, I like what Erlo has Ai r 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:53.519 Alo a Alo. I've used their e sims in various 1:22:53.560 --> 1:22:57.680 countries around the world. They've worked almost perfectly everywhere. The 1:22:57.760 --> 1:23:01.920 other one I'd look into is US Mobile. They have 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:06.200 an international e SIM as well now, and theirs is 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:08.080 more for like, you know, thirty days. You can buy 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:10.000 it for like a little bit more time. I think 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:12.800 they have one that lasts like a year. But you 1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:15.400 can look at US Mobile and again I put all 1:23:15.520 --> 1:23:17.240 these links on the website. You can go to rich 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:20.080 on tech dot TV look for show number twenty three. 1:23:20.560 --> 1:23:24.400 But that's exciting Berlin fun. It's always a little bit 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:27.839 of nervousness when it comes to connectivity in these other countries. 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:31.440 But to be honest, the more I've done the international 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:34.920 travel in these recent times, the better it has gotten. 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:37.920 It is really really gotten much better than when I 1:23:37.960 --> 1:23:41.439 started traveling to Japan ten years ago, and I literally 1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:44.680 had zero connectivity for like two days before I was 1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:47.280 able to figure something out. All right, coming up next, 1:23:47.320 --> 1:23:49.200 we got a lot more on the show. I'm gonna 1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:53.400 talk about Minecraft is now available in a new place. 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:59.040 We've got United upgrading to four K displays in their 1:24:00.080 --> 1:24:04.040 in their airplanes, which is incredible, and you can now 1:24:04.080 --> 1:24:08.280 get grub Hub delivery in a hotel chain. Plus we're 1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:12.439 going to talk to some students who are inspiring young coders. 1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:15.240 It's all coming up right here on rich On Tech. 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:22.760 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology. 1:24:22.880 --> 1:24:25.880 We've been talking a lot of Apple because while their 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:28.599 Worldwide Developers Conference happened this week, I was there up 1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:31.240 in Cooper Tino, and they announced a lot. I mean, 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:33.000 they've look at you got to think about the products 1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:37.400 this company has. You've got the iPhone obviously, which you 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:41.000 know so many people use. Then you've got things like 1:24:41.040 --> 1:24:44.559 the Mac computers. Then you've got the Apple Watch, then 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:47.240 you've got the air pods, and of course you know 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:50.000 just all the little things that they do. And so 1:24:50.280 --> 1:24:52.320 I get it's a lot of stuff, but I want 1:24:52.360 --> 1:24:54.680 you to know what's coming soon to these gadgets that 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:57.080 you can plan and think about it and also not 1:24:57.200 --> 1:24:59.680 be surprised. So let me go over a couple more things. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:03.960 Bounced Watch os ten if you can believe it, the 1:25:04.000 --> 1:25:07.519 Apple Watch has now been out I Apple Watch. Let 1:25:07.520 --> 1:25:10.720 me assue when this thing launched. I was there for 1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:13.840 the launch back in many, many years ago. Let's see 1:25:13.840 --> 1:25:17.439 twenty fifteen. So you're talking I should I probably should 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:20.400 have realized that watch os ten. It's been probably ten years, 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.240 so almost ten years of the Apple Watch, which is 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:25.280 just wild because I remember the first time ever putting 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:28.679 it on my wrist and now we're up to number ten. 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:31.599 So this is for the operating system, by the way, 1:25:31.720 --> 1:25:33.680 So the operating system is going to have this thing 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.360 called smart Stack, which is on the iPhone. So it's 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:38.880 a bunch of widgets that you can stack on your 1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:42.720 watch so that you can flip through important information. And 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:46.320 then they've got let's see, the Peanuts comic strip is 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:48.800 going to be on Apple Watch. It's funny. I showed 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:51.760 my kid a video about all the new features coming soon, 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:53.360 and this was the one thing. He was like, wait, 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:56.360 what Snoopy on the Apple Watch. That's so cool. I 1:25:56.400 --> 1:26:00.080 was like, all right, So to each his own. And 1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:03.679 then they have this new mindfulness feature, which there's already 1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:09.320 this mindfulness app, but now you can log your emotions 1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:13.160 and daily moods. So it'll say, hey, how you feel 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:17.080 in today, and you can scroll through and say how 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:20.599 you're feeling, whether you're feeling good, bad, somewhere in the middle, 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:23.720 and then you can select what's having an impact on you. 1:26:23.960 --> 1:26:26.800 So if you're traveling, if you're stressed out, if it's work, 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:30.439 if it's family, significant other, whatever it is, you'll be 1:26:30.479 --> 1:26:32.599 able to do that track all of that. Of course, 1:26:32.640 --> 1:26:34.880 it's apples, so they're going to keep everything private, but 1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:37.639 it's neat because you'll be able to see trends over time. 1:26:38.040 --> 1:26:40.080 So if you notice that every Friday you're in a 1:26:40.120 --> 1:26:43.320 bad mood, you can maybe figure out how to alleviate that. 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:48.400 In the future. Then AirPods AirPods Pro. This is a 1:26:48.520 --> 1:26:51.559 feature that's only coming to the second generation AirPods Pro, 1:26:52.000 --> 1:26:53.880 but I thought this was pretty cool because this is 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:56.720 a major problem on the AirPods. So if you have 1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:01.160 the noise cancelation on and someone starts to talk to you, 1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:03.400 you literally can't hear them at all, even if they're 1:27:03.400 --> 1:27:05.640 standing right in front of you. So now there's this 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:10.080 new adaptive audio mode that will understand when you start 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:14.559 talking to someone that it'll have this conversational awareness, so 1:27:14.600 --> 1:27:16.960 it'll lower the volume of the music you're listening to 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.200 or whatever you're listening to, and enhance the voices of 1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:23.000 the person that is trying to talk to you and 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:26.160 reduce background noise. So that's really nice. I mean this 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:28.519 literally happened to me on the plane. I was like, ah, 1:27:28.520 --> 1:27:30.640 I'm sorry, I literally can't hear you. Hold on, let 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:33.200 me take this AirPod out and try to talk to you. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:37.840 But that'll be a nice addition. And then Apple is 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:41.640 finally admitting that these AirPods don't always automatically switch to 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:43.840 the device you're trying to use them with all the 1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:46.639 time very easily, and so they say there is now 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:50.599 automatic switching has gotten better. It will be significantly faster 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:55.280 and more reliable, making it seamless to move from a 1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:58.360 favorite podcast on the iPhone to a work call on 1:27:58.600 --> 1:28:02.280 the Mac. And so that's gonna be a nice added 1:28:02.280 --> 1:28:05.760 feature as well, something that I've noticed. You know, I 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:08.000 don't even use the AirPods with any sort of zoom 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:09.479 calls because I never know if they're going to work 1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:12.839 or not. Let's see what else do they have here? Oh, 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:19.240 a tvOS seventeen. So Apple TV is getting FaceTime, which 1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:22.160 I've been talking about forever saying how we need FaceTime 1:28:22.160 --> 1:28:25.960 on Apple TV. Of course, in typical Apple fashion, it's nice, 1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:27.559 it's gonna be great, but you have to use an 1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:30.280 iPhone as your camera or an iPad. You can't just 1:28:30.320 --> 1:28:32.840 plug a regular webcam into the back of your Apple TV. 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:35.720 That would make way too much sense. All I want 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.439 to do is just plug a webcam into the back 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:39.559 of the Apple TV, and then when I want to 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:43.080 do a FaceTime call or a video chat, I would 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:44.479 be able to use that. No, you got to use 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:47.960 your phone. So now you get to buy another stand 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.799 for your iPhone that you can put near your TV 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:54.320 and so that you can put your phone as your camera. 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:57.479 And I mean, it's fine, it's you already have an 1:28:57.520 --> 1:28:59.640 iPhone if you have an Apple TV. But it's just 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:02.040 one of the things would have been a lot easier, 1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:04.920 let's see. Oh and by the way, they are going 1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:07.640 to support some third party apps, so they did specifically 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:11.800 mention Zoom and some other apps as well, So it's 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:13.720 not going to be just FaceTime, it'll be some other 1:29:13.800 --> 1:29:16.760 video chatting apps. Oh and this was really interesting. If 1:29:16.800 --> 1:29:19.040 you have an Apple TV remote that you lost, which 1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:21.280 is like ninety nine percent of the time in my house, 1:29:21.760 --> 1:29:25.400 you can use your iPhone to locate your Siri remote. 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:28.720 And all these things come with an asterisk, right, A 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:32.120 lot of these things you need to have the latest whatever. 1:29:32.439 --> 1:29:35.320 And the Siri remote is a second generation or later, 1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:37.599 which is a pretty recent remote, so it's not going 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:40.479 to work with all the old Apple TV remotes. But 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:43.200 this is this is a great feature because every time 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:45.680 I go to sit down to watch TV, I for 1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:49.880 some reason cannot find the remote control. And I asked 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:51.479 the kids and they say, I don't know. I don't 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:53.200 know where that went. I said, well, you used it 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:58.040 the last time. Where is it? Don't know? And finally 1:29:58.240 --> 1:30:02.479 United putting four K displays and Bluetooth on its planes. 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:05.920 Call screen or Kim said, how dare they My last 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:10.000 flight had no screens. Now they're putting four K Come on. Yes, 1:30:10.080 --> 1:30:13.400 they did a deal with Panasonic to put four K 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:19.280 ol ed screens in their aircraft Boeing seven eighty seven 1:30:19.360 --> 1:30:22.439 in their airbus A three two one xl R. Wow, 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:25.280 say that ten times fast. It's also gonna have Bluetooth, 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:27.760 so it's gonna be sharp, it's gonna be crisp, it's 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.240 gonna be clear you'll be able to connect your Bluetooth devices. 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:32.719 But here's the deal. It's gonna be in three hundred 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:35.679 thousand seats, but probably not the one you're flying on, 1:30:35.880 --> 1:30:38.800 because this will be in a lot of the the 1:30:38.840 --> 1:30:42.000 international flights, and it's not coming until twenty twenty five, 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:44.960 so four K on United, but you gotta wait a 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:48.000 little bit for that one. All right. Well, that's exciting though, 1:30:48.000 --> 1:30:49.880 because last I was on like a test flight I 1:30:49.880 --> 1:30:51.559 guess where they had the Bluetooth, and it was really 1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:54.200 cool because you can just use your bluetoth headphones instead 1:30:54.200 --> 1:30:57.519 of plugging in. All right, coming up, we are gonna 1:30:57.560 --> 1:31:02.600 talk to two incredible coding students. This is an inspiring 1:31:02.640 --> 1:31:05.840 conversation I had up at WWDC. We'll talk to these 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:07.760 students coming up next, and then we're going to close 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:09.920 out the show. Might have time for one more call 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:12.360 at triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:15.599 seven four to two four to one zero one rich 1:31:15.680 --> 1:31:22.000 On Tech. Rich Demiro here, rich On Tech. Welcome back 1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:25.519 to the show. Coming to you from Cooper Tino. We 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:29.680 are at Apple's headquarters just on the cusp of WWDC, 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:33.360 and I've got two great guests joining me Yemmy Agason, 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:36.519 and Rebecca Wang. Rebecca is a seventeen year old from 1:31:36.560 --> 1:31:40.559 San Jose. She is a self taught coder, and Yemy 1:31:40.760 --> 1:31:43.599 is twenty one finishing up his computer science degree at 1:31:43.720 --> 1:31:48.519 Kennesaus State University. Welcome to the show, Hi Rich, Thank 1:31:48.520 --> 1:31:51.840 you so. First off, for someone who hasn't been to 1:31:51.880 --> 1:31:55.040 the Apple campus, just explain how cool it is to 1:31:55.120 --> 1:31:55.880 visit this place. 1:31:56.960 --> 1:31:59.360 So I have lived here in my entire life, like 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:01.800 San Jose twenty minutes from here, but I have never 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:05.479 been to Apple Park aside from the visitor center and 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:09.280 just going in like it's two mongus, it's a one 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:13.759 mile radius run mile like circle, and it's just everything 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:14.360 is just huge. 1:32:14.400 --> 1:32:15.519 I had to look up half. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:15.840 Of the time. 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:20.000 This is my second time here, first time inside though, 1:32:20.400 --> 1:32:23.040 and it was honestly just amazing just to see how 1:32:23.280 --> 1:32:26.760 green this place is a lot of nature and it's 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:28.760 just like like you said, a one mile radio. I 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:31.280 was like, wow, like this is a really good campus. 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:35.200 Now, both of you have a reason for being here, Yeamy, 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:38.280 Why don't you explain how you made it to WWDC 1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:38.920 this year? Oh? 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:42.479 Yes, So in middle of March they announced the WWC 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:46.720 Student challenge, award or challenge, and I essentially like, just 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:49.519 you know, this is my final university. I was like, 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:51.320 let me go ahead, and like, go ahead and try 1:32:51.360 --> 1:32:54.720 to work it. Try to submit a challenge to one 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:58.040 of the greatest companies I believe. And yeah, so I 1:32:58.080 --> 1:33:03.200 built a baseball game with Swift and two months later 1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:05.000 I found out that I won the challenge there and 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:06.479 I got invited to WWC. 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:11.040 And you're a big fan of baseball, yes, but also filmmaking, 1:33:11.040 --> 1:33:12.360 because you're writing a film now. 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:15.719 Too, Right, I'm writing a film about a pitcher who, 1:33:17.200 --> 1:33:19.640 let's say he's struggling in his career and but he 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:21.720 finds a pitch that is unhittable. 1:33:21.760 --> 1:33:24.800 And that's you. I'll give right now. I don't want 1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:28.519 to give away the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. And Rebecca, 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:31.920 you you coded some different things here, tell me what 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:35.160 you coded. You've done some different hackathons, and you are 1:33:35.200 --> 1:33:39.320 all about empowering young women interested in a career in technology. 1:33:39.360 --> 1:33:41.040 How do you do that? Yeah? 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:43.719 So my app is called Dare to Dream. It aims 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:46.799 to empower the next generation of woman tech. It features 1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:51.400 ten historical and contemporary women, including at Lovelace, doctor Faife 1:33:51.520 --> 1:33:55.720 Lee and Carly Klass. So back when I started with hackathons, 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:58.519 I learned coding straight from hackathons, so it was a 1:33:58.640 --> 1:34:01.479 very untraditional experience, I would say. So I was like 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:05.680 reaching out to people on LinkedIn, learning through YouTube workshops. 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:08.519 So even though I was at hackathons, I experienced this 1:34:08.680 --> 1:34:12.839 like exclusion basically for girls like me new to coding, 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:16.360 and we're just like, oh, like, how do we make 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:19.040 a team of strangers and build an awesome project within 1:34:19.120 --> 1:34:20.080 twenty four hours? 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:22.120 And from then I have like for my. 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:26.479 Own hackathon for marginalized genders for girls, and then there 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:28.960 to dream is actually part of my larger initiative to 1:34:29.080 --> 1:34:31.200 create a book for empowering young. 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:35.040 Women in tech. Okay, that's very cool, So tell me 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:37.840 about the idea of like explain kind of the idea 1:34:37.840 --> 1:34:40.400 of coding to someone that doesn't really know what that means. 1:34:40.400 --> 1:34:43.960 We all use apps, but someone has to make these apps. 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:47.200 And what got you interested in the behind the scenes 1:34:47.240 --> 1:34:47.920 aspect of this. 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:53.040 Yeah, So my first experience I got into coding was 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:56.639 literally through a spam email for a hackthon, and from 1:34:56.640 --> 1:34:58.559 that I didn't know what a hackathon was, but it 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:01.200 was the middle of covid in in the winter of 1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:03.240 twenty twenty of twenty twenty, So. 1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:04.760 It was good timing because you had a lot of 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:08.600 time on your hands, too much time, honestly. But I 1:35:08.720 --> 1:35:10.120 entered a discord server. 1:35:10.320 --> 1:35:12.960 I was way into white mode at that time, but 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:15.280 I spent twenty four hours. 1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:15.880 I stayed up. 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:18.160 I was so tired, but I worked with a team 1:35:18.200 --> 1:35:21.440 of girls on financial literacy to go to a website 1:35:21.600 --> 1:35:23.800 and from there I realized, this is one of the 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:27.479 first times I can do social change and connect it 1:35:27.520 --> 1:35:30.120 to people from all over the world because it's a 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:33.040 website and it's accessible, and we can also translate a 1:35:33.080 --> 1:35:34.400 different languages as well. 1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:38.439 Yeah, you reach so many people. That's what's incredible about it. Yemmy, 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:40.120 what about yourself? Yeah, so I'm interested. 1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:44.120 I see coding as pretty much communicating to a computer. 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:47.040 And what got me into is that, like I see 1:35:47.080 --> 1:35:49.280 myself as an artist, and I feel like with code, 1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:52.439 I can use that as my medium. You know, the 1:35:52.479 --> 1:35:55.960 keyboard is my brush, the computer itself is my cannabis, 1:35:56.040 --> 1:35:57.800 and then you can just kind of create whatever you want. 1:35:58.200 --> 1:36:00.920 And like I got into it when I was a 1:36:01.000 --> 1:36:03.240 lot younger in middle school. There was like a computer 1:36:03.320 --> 1:36:07.320 lab session and we were going to go through this 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:10.200 like tutorial about how like to alert the computer to 1:36:10.240 --> 1:36:12.479 do something, and it literally just took one line of 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:14.200 code and it was just so powerful. 1:36:15.040 --> 1:36:18.040 What's your advice to younger people that want to get 1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:20.880 involved in this because we hear a lot about coding now. 1:36:20.880 --> 1:36:23.439 Of course we hear about AI taking over some of 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:26.160 the aspects of coding. I'd be curious to get your 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:28.719 take on that. But do you still think it's something 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:31.240 that young people should get interested in? Oh? Yes, definitely. 1:36:31.240 --> 1:36:32.879 How do you do it? Definitely? 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:35.240 I believe a lot of people think that coding is 1:36:35.280 --> 1:36:38.320 just like a lot of math, at a lot of 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:39.519 upfront knowledge. 1:36:39.560 --> 1:36:41.439 We have to just memorize things. And it's not any 1:36:41.479 --> 1:36:41.640 of that. 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:44.800 It's a lot of just you just got to kind 1:36:44.800 --> 1:36:47.080 of honestly just do it to get really good at it. 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:49.679 And like how I get started today, ifere to start 1:36:49.680 --> 1:36:51.960 over again, it's just, honestly, just think about something you 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:54.160 would want to create and want to build and just 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:56.080 kind of break it down and look things up. 1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:57.320 Don't be afraid to look things up. 1:36:57.560 --> 1:36:57.760 You know. 1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:01.280 I definitely don't know that much, but constantly learning and. 1:37:01.240 --> 1:37:04.479 So yeah, Rebecca, how about you, what's your advice? 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:09.120 I would say, like coding is for everyone. Recently, I 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:12.360 think Susan Prescott from Apple, she mentioned that there is 1:37:12.400 --> 1:37:15.679 a winner who was eighty one years old. So coding 1:37:15.840 --> 1:37:19.840 is really for everyone, inclusive of all ages, genders, and 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:23.280 all backgrounds. So one advice I would have for starting 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:26.479 aspiring coders is just like be a sponge, soak up 1:37:26.479 --> 1:37:29.519 all like the opportunities, reach out to as many people 1:37:29.560 --> 1:37:30.120 as you can. 1:37:31.439 --> 1:37:34.280 Now I heard you mentioned this eighty one year old, 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:38.800 that one that was involved this year. That's incredible. We've 1:37:38.840 --> 1:37:41.479 got people of different backgrounds. How important do you think 1:37:41.520 --> 1:37:43.960 it is for people of different backgrounds to come to 1:37:44.000 --> 1:37:46.200 the table when it comes to coding or apps or 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:47.000 all of this stuff. 1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:52.960 Yeah, So, like diversity drives technology, we won't have like 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:58.080 diverse data sets diverse like artificial intelligence that could be 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:01.200 inclusive to all people if we did have those people 1:38:01.280 --> 1:38:04.920 at the table. So technology, just like Apple is doing 1:38:04.960 --> 1:38:07.559 amazingly right now, is to make sure that every voice 1:38:07.640 --> 1:38:09.760 is heard, valued and amplified. 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:13.960 And you've lived in a Yemi several different countries, huh, 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:15.840 I mean that brings a lot to the table. As 1:38:15.840 --> 1:38:19.360 well for just knowing how people are in different places. 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:21.640 Do you feel like that helps you? It gives you 1:38:21.680 --> 1:38:23.559 an edge and kind of like the knowledge you have. 1:38:23.840 --> 1:38:27.439 Yes, definitely, I would say one thing I never considered, 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:30.519 but as as I've lived in five different countries, five 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:36.360 different witch countries, Germany, Belgium, Nigeria, England, and I guess 1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:39.360 the United States, and in three different states inside the 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:42.479 United States. But yes, I would say that, Like, one 1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:45.000 thing I love about Apple is that when you're coding 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:48.680 is that you can localize things, and so a lot 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:50.640 of times when you write things, usually in English, you 1:38:50.640 --> 1:38:52.919 can also localize them, so that way and other countries 1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:56.160 people can still use the same app while also being. 1:38:56.120 --> 1:38:59.120 There in language. Now, we saw a pretty big announcement 1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:04.400 this year and it involves the virtual headset, the division pro. 1:39:05.000 --> 1:39:07.680 So that's a whole other level of coding. I mean, 1:39:07.840 --> 1:39:11.000 app developers have an entirely new canvas to work for 1:39:11.880 --> 1:39:15.360 in building apps for this. Does it interest you at all? Oh? Definitely. 1:39:16.720 --> 1:39:19.360 One thing that came to mind is great use of 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:23.599 an AR and the vision pro would be to allow 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:27.439 people on sports, like referees to basically kind of see 1:39:27.560 --> 1:39:31.720 and like have a more accurate way of like officiating. 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:33.920 And for one of the use cases like who already 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:35.920 go off a baseball, is that an umpire can now 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:38.760 finally see like a see exactly where the ball went 1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:41.160 through one not during a ball and strike, and they 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.400 can now make it a more accurate decision. 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:47.480 So, Rebecca, any inspiration you drew from that new technology. 1:39:47.840 --> 1:39:52.040 Yeah, So in schools like chromebooks, computers, the presence of 1:39:52.080 --> 1:39:56.559 iPhones has strattically changed technology and learning into classrooms. So 1:39:56.600 --> 1:40:00.800 I'm really excited to see how VR implemented in our 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:03.799 classrooms and also our workplaces, which change that environment. 1:40:04.880 --> 1:40:06.680 All right, so how can we find some of the 1:40:06.720 --> 1:40:08.680 work that you guys are doing. Tell folks how to 1:40:08.680 --> 1:40:10.640 follow you and find you. 1:40:10.640 --> 1:40:13.559 You can follow me on Instagram at Yemmy Box, y 1:40:13.720 --> 1:40:16.000 E m I Box. 1:40:17.160 --> 1:40:20.080 You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at rb 1:40:20.360 --> 1:40:22.000 cc A w Ang. 1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:24.400 All right, I want to say thank you to my guests, 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:27.599 Yemmy Agason and Rebecca Wang, thanks so much for joining 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:30.519 me here today. Thank you, Thank you. We'll have more 1:40:30.640 --> 1:40:38.599 Rich on Tech coming up right after this. Welcome back 1:40:38.640 --> 1:40:42.759 to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here closing out the show, 1:40:44.040 --> 1:40:46.599 I've got to say, I'm quite impressed that we pulled 1:40:46.600 --> 1:40:51.360 this off from such a remote location. That's a testament 1:40:51.439 --> 1:40:55.680 to the amazing power of technology. So we're in a 1:40:55.720 --> 1:40:59.880 place where there's not much service of any kind and 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:01.599 the fact that we can do a radio show that 1:41:01.640 --> 1:41:06.200 goes out around the US is pretty incredible. So that 1:41:06.400 --> 1:41:08.000 is very exciting to me because I was a little 1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:11.240 nervous that this wouldn't work, but it did. We got 1:41:11.240 --> 1:41:14.920 a couple more things to talk about. This is happening 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:18.599 over in France. So the Senate over there just gave 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:24.080 the green light to allow the remote activation of the 1:41:24.160 --> 1:41:29.880 cameras or microphones on smartphones. And this is a controversial bill, 1:41:29.960 --> 1:41:33.439 as you might expect, but the Senate authorized it. It 1:41:33.479 --> 1:41:37.400 will give remote triggering of cameras or telephone microphones in 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:42.880 certain investigations without the knowledge of the people concerned, you know, 1:41:42.960 --> 1:41:46.400 the people whose phone it is. So they also can 1:41:46.680 --> 1:41:51.760 look at their GEO GPS location without them knowing. So 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:55.600 this will be reserved for cases of terrorism, delinquency, and 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:59.680 organized crime. But as you might expect, this is a 1:42:00.080 --> 1:42:04.360 slippery slippery slope. And if we can't trust that our 1:42:04.400 --> 1:42:07.639 phones are private, it's bad enough that we have these 1:42:07.720 --> 1:42:09.840 apps that are trying to get as much data as 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:13.519 possible about us. But imagine the government being able to 1:42:13.560 --> 1:42:17.200 just activate your phone or or your camera or your 1:42:17.200 --> 1:42:20.960 microphone at any time. That is some scary, scary stuff. 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:23.840 And I'm not an expert in the US. I know 1:42:23.840 --> 1:42:26.639 they've got some things like I'm pretty sure they can 1:42:26.760 --> 1:42:29.960 listen to your phone conversations, but I don't think they 1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:33.160 can access your camera or mic. That'd be really really 1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:37.000 concerning to me. Maybe if they have a warrant. But 1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:38.320 I mean, this is what people do all the time. 1:42:38.360 --> 1:42:40.080 They hack into these phones, you know, if you're a 1:42:41.040 --> 1:42:45.920 prominent journalist or government agent somewhere around the world. I mean, 1:42:45.920 --> 1:42:48.840 that's what all of these security updates are about. They're 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:52.360 about software that gets secretly installed in your phone that 1:42:52.479 --> 1:42:55.320 does allow a third party to monitor what you're doing 1:42:55.360 --> 1:42:57.720 and what you're saying and where you're going. And that's 1:42:57.760 --> 1:42:59.720 why it's so important to do the software updates on 1:42:59.720 --> 1:43:03.240 your phone, because these companies like Apple and Google are 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:05.479 constantly working to make sure that this is not a 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:09.599 broad possibility. But this is at the government level in France, 1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:12.320 so that's a whole other can of worms. But if 1:43:12.360 --> 1:43:15.080 you look on the iPhone and recent androids, they do 1:43:15.240 --> 1:43:18.360 tell you when your camera is being accessed. There's a 1:43:18.400 --> 1:43:21.000 little indicator light when your MIC is being accessed. And 1:43:21.040 --> 1:43:25.320 if you swipe down on your control panel, which on 1:43:25.360 --> 1:43:27.679 the latest iPhones is from the upper right hand corner, 1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:31.559 you can see which apps have recently accessed your camera, 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:35.360 your MIC, or your location. And so right now I'm 1:43:35.400 --> 1:43:41.040 seeing that Weather recently accessed my location. So an Android 1:43:41.040 --> 1:43:42.920 does the same thing. You can even go you can 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:45.519 even go into your settings and look under privacy and 1:43:45.560 --> 1:43:48.640 see all of the apps and exactly what they're accessing. 1:43:49.240 --> 1:43:51.479 And in general, I always recommend that you never give 1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:54.880 an app more access than it needs. New way, so 1:43:55.760 --> 1:43:59.080 don't don't you know the old thing was the flashlight 1:43:59.120 --> 1:44:04.240 app that people wouldload and they would give every permission possible, 1:44:04.600 --> 1:44:07.600 Like why does a flashlight app need access to your GPS? 1:44:07.640 --> 1:44:09.840 It doesn't. They were just collecting a whole bunch of 1:44:09.920 --> 1:44:13.240 data so they could sell information and sell ads across 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:18.719 their platforms against you. So kind of scary. What's happening 1:44:18.760 --> 1:44:21.479 over there in France, Even if it's for public safety, 1:44:21.520 --> 1:44:24.479 it's just still like whoo. When you go down that line. 1:44:24.560 --> 1:44:28.719 I don't know. Minecraft now on the Chromebook. We talked 1:44:28.720 --> 1:44:31.880 about this a couple months back, how they were testing it. 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:36.719 Now it's widely available. You can now purchase Minecraft Bedrock 1:44:36.880 --> 1:44:40.400 Edition from Google Play on the Chromebook, which gives you 1:44:40.479 --> 1:44:43.439 access to Minecraft Marketplace and you can play on realms. 1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:46.120 Your kids probably know what that is. It's available on 1:44:46.160 --> 1:44:50.760 compatible chromebooks made in the last three years, so all 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:53.600 chromebooks in the last three years apparently will work with this. 1:44:53.800 --> 1:44:56.519 And then there's another list of other compatible chromebooks, so 1:44:56.520 --> 1:44:59.080 it's not just the last three years. They do have 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:01.760 recommended device. Some are going to work better than others. 1:45:01.800 --> 1:45:06.559 Chromebooks are notoriously underpowered most of the time, so you know, 1:45:06.600 --> 1:45:10.280 don't expect amazing things from some of the older chromebooks. 1:45:10.960 --> 1:45:13.280 You can also do cross play on these things, so 1:45:13.400 --> 1:45:15.840 you can play against friends that are on any other 1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:21.440 sort of Chrome Minecraft device, Android, Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, computers. 1:45:22.320 --> 1:45:27.000 And then here's the deal. So if you buy if 1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:30.639 you buy Minecraft on chromebook, you can download it for 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:33.240 free on your Android device if they're both on the 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:35.839 same account. So again, if you buy it on chromebook, 1:45:35.880 --> 1:45:38.120 you can get it for free on your Android. Now 1:45:38.240 --> 1:45:40.080 the other way, if you have it already, if you 1:45:40.160 --> 1:45:43.599 paid for it on Android and you want to on Chromebook, 1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:47.360 you'll get it for a discounted price. So it kind 1:45:47.360 --> 1:45:49.360 of like it doesn't go both ways, but it's like, 1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:51.679 if you have it on Chromebook, you'll get it free 1:45:51.720 --> 1:45:54.040 on Android. If you have it on Android, you could 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:55.920 pay just a little bit more to get it on 1:45:56.479 --> 1:46:03.080 the Chromebook. Grub Huh and Homewood Suites are teaming up. 1:46:03.680 --> 1:46:05.360 So I was just talking about this with a friend 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:07.479 the other day. How I thought it was so odd. 1:46:08.120 --> 1:46:10.440 I had this producer we were up in San Francisco 1:46:10.640 --> 1:46:12.360 and after a long day, you know, what do you do? 1:46:12.400 --> 1:46:14.559 You go out with the team to like a dinner, right, 1:46:15.240 --> 1:46:17.559 And this producer was like, now I'm just gonna order 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:20.000 Postmates to my room. I said, what, how do you 1:46:20.240 --> 1:46:22.760 I've never even thought about doing that. Yeah, I do 1:46:22.800 --> 1:46:26.000 it all the time, no problem. So I of course, 1:46:26.080 --> 1:46:28.639 now fast forward, you know, five years later, just did 1:46:28.640 --> 1:46:31.160 this the other day and people do it all the time, 1:46:31.600 --> 1:46:33.360 but it was so farig to me back then. I 1:46:33.360 --> 1:46:35.479 was like, wait, what don't you go out for something? 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:39.360 And so sure enough, now grubhub is teaming up with 1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:43.519 Homewood Suites. So what they're doing is they're pretty much 1:46:43.600 --> 1:46:46.040 just making yes, you can always order Grubhub inside of 1:46:46.120 --> 1:46:49.760 any hotel or Postmates or you know, Uber Eats or 1:46:49.800 --> 1:46:53.200 whatever door Dash, but they're making it easier to sort 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:57.599 of get your hotel's location on the app and also 1:46:57.760 --> 1:47:01.640 see which things are recommended. So this will happen at 1:47:01.680 --> 1:47:05.600 five hundred Homewood Suite locations across the country. You'll be 1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:09.640 able to order from local restaurants and convenience stores via geolocation, 1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:12.759 so it will know when you're inside this specific hotel 1:47:12.760 --> 1:47:14.640 and it will give you the places that it recommends. 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:18.160 But there's also a QR code in the hotel, probably 1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:20.200 in your room you can scan to make it a 1:47:20.200 --> 1:47:22.960 lot easier, so it already populates with like which hotel 1:47:23.000 --> 1:47:25.200 you're in your address. All you do do is pop 1:47:25.240 --> 1:47:27.920 in your room and that'll be really nice and simple. 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:30.680 And they're also going to have the hotel location and 1:47:30.760 --> 1:47:35.559 courier drop off instructions automatically populate at checkout. So people 1:47:35.560 --> 1:47:37.800 who tried this in the pilot program they loved it 1:47:37.920 --> 1:47:40.080 because it was much easier. So I just did this 1:47:40.120 --> 1:47:42.880 the other day I've got this place up in Cooper 1:47:42.920 --> 1:47:46.040 Tino that I love to order from. It's random. It's 1:47:46.040 --> 1:47:48.360 called a good salad, but it's just a really good 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:50.479 chicken caesar salad that I like to get when I 1:47:50.520 --> 1:47:52.439 cover Apple events. I just get it delivered to my 1:47:52.479 --> 1:47:55.200 hotel room, and it's every time, it's really good. But 1:47:55.400 --> 1:47:56.680 you know, it takes some times. You get to put 1:47:56.680 --> 1:47:57.960 in your hotel. You got to make sure it's the 1:47:58.040 --> 1:48:01.160 right hotel, and sometimes you don't know. You're like, wait, 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:03.600 is this the address? Is it the right hotel? So 1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:05.760 it just makes it a lot easier when they sort 1:48:05.760 --> 1:48:09.160 of build this stuff together and make it a lot 1:48:09.200 --> 1:48:13.320 simpler to access. All right. Uh finally, oh gosh, do 1:48:13.360 --> 1:48:15.200 I really want to end on a sad note? Aren't 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:17.400 you supposed to end on a happy note? No, I'm 1:48:17.520 --> 1:48:19.160 you know, I'm not even gonna read that one. I 1:48:19.160 --> 1:48:21.080 don't want to read that one because it's too it's 1:48:21.120 --> 1:48:24.920 too sad. So you know what, that's it. We'll just 1:48:25.040 --> 1:48:26.800 end on that. We'll end on the grubhub in my 1:48:26.840 --> 1:48:30.519 good memories of this salad, because that's uh, that's I 1:48:30.520 --> 1:48:33.800 don't want to end on a sad story. Let's see 1:48:33.800 --> 1:48:35.439 do I have one more question I can do? Oh, 1:48:35.520 --> 1:48:38.240 Jennifer says, hey, Rich, the voice commands of my car 1:48:38.280 --> 1:48:41.960 play through Siri have changed, so can I change them 1:48:41.960 --> 1:48:43.960 to a different voice? Yes, you can change Siri to 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:46.759 a different voice. This is much happier. Go into settings, 1:48:46.880 --> 1:48:51.160 Syrian Voice, Siri Voice, a Syrian Search, and then Siri Voice. 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:54.160 You have five variety, a bunch of different varieties to 1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:58.240 choose from American, Australian, British, Indian, Irish, South African, and 1:48:58.280 --> 1:49:01.040 then you have different types of voice inside there. So 1:49:01.080 --> 1:49:04.679 again go into settings Siri and Search and Siri Voice. 1:49:04.720 --> 1:49:07.120 You can change your voice. All right, that's gonna do 1:49:07.160 --> 1:49:09.040 it for this episode of the show, number twenty three 1:49:09.120 --> 1:49:11.560 in the can check out the show notes at richontech 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:16.120 dot tv. Send your feedback to hello at richon tech 1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:18.120 dot tv. I might read it on our next show 1:49:18.520 --> 1:49:22.000 next week. I'm gonna be taste testing dairy cheese that 1:49:22.080 --> 1:49:25.240 doesn't require a cow to make. Yes, it's too It's 1:49:25.280 --> 1:49:27.960 not like the regular vegan cheese out there. They literally 1:49:28.040 --> 1:49:30.360 figured out how to make cheese without a cow. My 1:49:30.479 --> 1:49:32.320 name is Rich Dmiro. Thanks so much for listening. There 1:49:32.320 --> 1:49:34.760 are so many ways you can spend your time. I 1:49:34.840 --> 1:49:37.000 do appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks 1:49:37.080 --> 1:49:41.479 to everyone who makes this show possible, Adam Kim, Bill Bobo, 1:49:41.640 --> 1:49:44.920 and special thanks to the Alisoul ranch here in Solving, 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:49.040 California for helping me do this show remotely. Today. You 1:49:49.080 --> 1:49:51.439 can find me on social media. I am at rich 1:49:51.520 --> 1:49:55.479 on tech website again rich on tech dot tv. I 1:49:55.520 --> 1:49:57.679 can't believe we pulled this off in the middle of nowhere. 1:49:59.400 --> 1:50:02.720 Love you so regular signals, love your Wi Fi. I'm 1:50:02.800 --> 1:50:04.720 Rich Tomiro. I'll talk to you real soon. 1:50:10.160 --> 1:50:10.200 M