1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: What's going on. I'm Rich Demiro and this is Rich 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: on Tech, the show where I talk about the tech 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: stuff I think you should know about. It's also the 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: place where I answer your questions about technology. I'm the 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: to show number twenty three. Phone lines are now open 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Give 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: me a call if you have a question about technology. Also, 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: email is now open. You can send it to Hello 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: at richontech dot TV. And it turns out you really 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: like email. You love sending me emails, So I love 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: that you love to do that. But I gotta tell 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: you I may not be able to respond to every 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: single email. I get just kind of a general warning 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: out there because I do my best, but you are 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: really liking sending these emails, so I will read some 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: of them at the end of the show or throughout 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the show. So feel free to call in at Triple 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one, or Hello at 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: richontech dot TV. All Right, so today I'm coming to 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: you from a special place Alisaul Ranch in Santa Barbara 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Wine Country. I'm here for a special event. And the 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: irony of this situation is that I did not plan 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: to do the show from here, so I was gonna 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: be up here, and when I got here, I brought 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: all my stuff to do the show potentially. But this 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: is a place, this is a ranch where people go 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: to get away from technology. There is barely a cell 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: phone signal, barely a Wi Fi signal, no TVs in 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: the rooms, no nothing, no internet in the room. I 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: mean there is a little bit now, no phones in 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: the rooms. So there was really no way to go 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: live from here until I tested and they said, well, 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: we do have kind of like a little bit of 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: AT and T on property. And I said, all right, 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: let me try this. And it turns out whatever there is, 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: our system works with it. So I'm coming to you 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: live from Santa Barbara Wine Country. I want to do 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: a special shout out to our listeners on KSMA Santa 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Maria twelve forty AM ninety nine five FM. Turns out 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: a couple of folks here listen to the show from 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: up here. So very exciting. All right, this was a 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: very very big week. This was Apple's WWDC Worldwide Developers Conference. 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: So earlier, I was up in Coopertino, California, at Apple's 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: campus they called Apple Park. It is incredible. It is 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: such an amazing experience. Anytime I go to any of 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: these tech events, it just continues to contribute to the 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: knowledge that I have, the experience that I have, the 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: memories that I have, the people that I know. It 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: is all incredible. But this week was a big one 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: for Apple because we finally finally got to see and 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I got to touch and try the product that so 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: many people have been talking about for so long, Apple 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Vision Pro. This is a vr AR mixed reality headset. 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Apple called it none of that. They call it a 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: spatial computer. This is a headset that you put on 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: that lets you do all kinds of cool stuff. I'm 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: gonna go more in depth about that in just a moment. 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: But they also had some other products, a new fifteen 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: inch MacBook Air, which I can't believe they came out 63 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: with right after. Of course, I buy my fourteen inch 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: MacBook Pro, so now I want to get the fifteen 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: inch MacBook Air because it's lighter, it's thinner, and it's 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: got a much bigger screen than what I just got, 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: so someone in my family may be getting an early 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Christmas present. They also came out with a Mac Studio, 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: a MacPro, and lots of updates for iOS iPadOS mac Os. 70 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: The next version of that is going to be called Sonoma, 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Yes after the wine country in California. Watch os. They 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: made some updates to the health app, tvOS, and AirPods 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: is getting a feature that I've been waiting for forever. 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: So lots of big announcements at WWDC. Perhaps the biggest 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: is this new thing called Apple Vision Pro. Now I 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: did get to go what do you call it? Head 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: on with this thing. I put this on, and I 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: will tell you I joked about this, I talked about this, 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: But the world has forever changed. Now that this is 80 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: in our world, things are going to be different. Let 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: me tell you why this is unlike any VR headset 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: we've ever had before. And the reason is that Apple 83 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: took all of the pain points from the other VR 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: headsets that we've had in the past, and some of 85 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: them are very good, and they have gotten rid of 86 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: those pain points. The biggest pain point they introduced is 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the price tag thirty five hundred dollars, which immediately just 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: kind of takes this out of the running for many 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: many people. But with that said, they did a really 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: good job with this device. So let me tell you 91 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of some of the futures. So first off, you 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: put this thing on and it's got a screen on 93 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: the front, and you know, some adjustable bands and things, 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: but when you look through it, it gives you an 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: immediate view of the world around you. So I was 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: sitting in this room and it just looked like I 97 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: was looking at the room. But then all of a sudden, 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: when they turned it on, it wrote, incursive across the screen, Hello, 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: in this big three D lettering that just floated in 100 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: mid air. And from that moment on, I had a 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: huge smile on my face and I just said, Okay, 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: this is incredible because it looks like the reality you're in, 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: but overlaid with a virtual reality. And what does that mean. Well, 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: some of the things we did. We opened up a 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: whole bunch of apps on the screen and you can 106 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: place them anywhere you want in your room, and it's 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: just like what you imagine the future would be like. 108 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: You can stretch those apps to look really big. You 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: can squeeze them, make them look really small. And the 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: way that you control this entire whatever you want to 111 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: call it computer headset is with your eyes, your voice, 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: and your hand. It's not a controller. You literally look 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,119 Speaker 1: at what you want to do. If it's a button 114 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: on screen, you look at that button and then you 115 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: just press your fingers together and it will select whatever 116 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: that button does. If you want to flip through something, 117 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: you just pinch and you swipe. It's kind of like 118 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: the movies that we've seen, all of the science fiction 119 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: stuff we've seen, except in reality. Inside this display, as 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: I kind of alluded to in past weeks, two ultra 121 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: high resolution displays, and it's so clear and crisp. It's 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: like a four K display for each eye. So when 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you watch a movie on this thing, not only is 124 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: it crystal clear, but I was watching a movie on 125 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: what seemed to be a one hundred foot screen in 126 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: front of me. So imagine you live in a tiny 127 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: apartment in New York City, which, by the way, I 128 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: guess if you live in a tiny apartment in New 129 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: York City, you could probably afford to get this thing 130 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: because it's so expensive. But you could you no longer 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: need a TV. Why would you need a TV when 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you can just put this headset on and now have 133 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: the most incredible system you've ever seen for watching movies. 134 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: There's gonna be over one hundred Apple Arcade games at launch. 135 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: There's this thing called immersive Environments. So I was sitting 136 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: there watching something on a TV, and instead of seeing 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: the world around me, I said, you know what, let's 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: tune out the world around me. So you turn this 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: little rotating knob. They call it the digital crown. You 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: turn that and everything just sort of blacks out and 141 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: you can say, oh, I want to be on a mountaintop, 142 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I want to be on the moon, I want to 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: be on in outer space. Whatever you want to be, 144 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you can be in that place instantly. Or if you 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: turn it the other way, you're back in your room 146 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and the stuff is kind of superimposed on the world 147 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: around you in the room. There's also a three D 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: camera on this device. You can capture photos and videos 149 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: in three D. That was really odd to see this. 150 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: So they captured a three D picture of a kid 151 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: of two kids on you know, in their room playing 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: and they were eating some cake and it was just 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: so weird. It looked like almost claymation figures in front 154 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: of you. And I can imagine that if you know, 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: many many years into the future, when you know one 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: of your relatives is looking at these pictures later on, 157 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: long after you've passed, it would really be emotional. And 158 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: then the video of the three D video clips were 159 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: so odd because the world sort of like blends around it. 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: So it's like almost like, ah, gosh, how do you 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: explain it. It looks like a hologram, but it's the 162 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: edges are all kind of feathered, so it just blends away. 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't have like a direct start or end. Really 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: really interesting. The FaceTime call that we made, they do 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: something called a digital persona, So you scan your face 166 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: and the device makes a digital replica of what you 167 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: would look like in the digital world, and they call 168 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: it your person And so I was chatting with someone 169 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: who was using their persona because you can't see yourself 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: inside this thing, so it makes a digital side of you. 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: And that was kind of weird because it's digital. It's eerie. 172 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: It's odd, very very strange. Let's see apps you can 173 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: run all of the apps that you can run on 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: the iPhone, you can run these day one but of 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: course some of these developers will come up with new apps. 176 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: There's a feature called Eyesight, which is really really odd. 177 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: This is a feature that when someone approaches you, they 178 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: will see your eyes sort of through this device, but 179 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: it's really just your eyes, a portrayal of your eyes 180 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: on a screen on the outside of this headset, and 181 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: then when the person comes up near you, the headset 182 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: is using machine learning to notice that that's a human 183 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: and it will actually help them break through the screen 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: on the inside. So let's say you're watching a movie 185 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: on a big screen and your wife comes into the room. 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: You will see her kind of come into the screen 187 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: and say, hey, what's going on, and you can interact 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: with her. When I put my hands up in front 189 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: of me, I could see my hands just as they 190 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: were right there. I mean, really really incredible stuff. All Right, 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I've got so much more to talk about with this headset. 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a break real quick, but when we 193 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: come back, I'm gonna talk more about this because I 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: just can't. I can't stop. There's so much about this. 195 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: It's so transformative. We're gonna talk more about that. Plus 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: coming up on the show, I'm gonna tell you about 197 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: the scam that involves your restaurant reservation. And then Brian Tong, 198 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: tech creator, is gonna join me to discuss our time 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: inside this headset. He's gonna help me compare it to 200 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: other VR headsets out there. Plus your calls at Triple 201 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: A rich one O one. You're listening to rich on tech. 202 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at Triple A rich one O 203 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 204 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: zero one. We're gonna talk about a scam soon that's 205 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: involving your restaurant reservation. This was a new one to me, 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: but it makes a lot of sense. I'll tell you 207 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: about that in a moment. Plus phone an email in 208 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello at richontech dot TV. And I've been talking about 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: this Apple headset Vision Pro thirty five hundred dollars virtual 210 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: reality headset. It's been in all the headlines this week. 211 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: It is incredible, but it's very, very expensive, and so 212 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed my time with this. I had 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: about a half an hour with this device, and I 214 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: said in my KTLA segment that I'm sold on it, 215 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't mean the price. I'm sold on what 216 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: this thing means and what it can do. I don't 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: know if people are gonna be switching their computers to 218 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: this device immediately, but what it represents for entertainment and 219 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: for communication and for accessibility is going to be pretty 220 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: pretty wild. All right, let's go to line one. John 221 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: is in Rosemead, California. John, you're on with Rich. Welcome 222 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: to the show. 223 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: Hey Rich, thank you, Thank you. 224 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Simple question. 225 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: Email program for a PC that can handle multiple email addresses? 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Good question. Uh. We talked about this a little bit 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: in a recent show, and I guess the main question 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: I have for you is you don't want to use 229 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: what's built into Windows or not the mail app? 230 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: Does it handle multiple email addresses? 231 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: I believe it does. I don't see why it wouldn't. 232 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of ways you can go 233 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: about this, So you can you can use a program, 234 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, like a mail program or Outlook under okay, 235 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: and so what do you like and not like about that? 236 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: Now with the program that I'm with, go Daddy my emails, 237 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: I have to buy an extension and it's just it's 238 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: getting complicated and the size. 239 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Interesting. What do you mean you have to buy an extension? 240 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't Is it not like a Standardized email address. 241 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: No it is. 242 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: But Go Daddy is making me switch from POP to IMAP. Yeah, 243 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: now Mozilla is not. I'm not getting emails, so I 244 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: had to get an extension and I had to purchase it. 245 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I don't you may not need 246 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: to do that. I think that that the IMAP is 247 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the main way that these you know, these email addresses 248 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: work nowadays. It used to be POP, right, but I 249 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: think I think what you have to do is I 250 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: think what you have to do is delete the POP 251 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: email and then set it up again as IMAP. And 252 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: from what I'm looking right now on their website, it 253 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: seems like it supports it natively. So I don't think 254 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: you would have to, you know, get anything different or 255 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: or sign up for something. Who where are you paying 256 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: the money to to use this? Is it Go Daddy 257 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: or Thunderbird? 258 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: Uh? 259 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: The extension is the third party extension on? 260 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: Is it Chrome? No, let's Chrome on. 261 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: In order for it to work, I had to get 262 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 4: an extension in Mozilla. Okay, I don't know. Okay, some 263 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: third party company that I purchased it from. 264 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, all right, Well, what I'd recommend is check 265 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: out mail number one. Just see if that works with 266 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: the multiple accounts on your computer. It's built in, it works, 267 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: it's simple. You can also if you have a Gmail 268 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: account or if you have like an Outlook account, you 269 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: can just add your multiple email addresses inside there and 270 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: then check it from the web, which is what I 271 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: prefer because you can access that from anywhere, and so 272 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I kind of like doing it that way. Otherwise, I mean, 273 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: the Thunderbird program is nice. There's a couple other programs 274 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: that I don't know. I think they're probably a little 275 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: bit too much for what you're asking for and what 276 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: you need, because they're more like, you know, high end programs. 277 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Microsoft Outlook if you have access to that, of course, 278 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: is a nice program which is going to work really well. 279 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: But do you have access to Outline or no. 280 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: I do have access to Outlook, But doesn't that don't 281 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: you have to have multiple each multiple tabs opened for 282 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: each email address. 283 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh, you're trying to get everything in like one unified inbox. 284 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, that's okay, okay, not not separated, got it? Okay, Yeah, 285 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: that definitely, Uh, that might that might cancel out Outlook 286 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: in that case. Okay, Well, I think that the mail 287 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: does combine them. I think that might be the best 288 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: way to go then, because I think that's going to 289 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: be your your best bet. I would check that out 290 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: see if it works. And the IMAP thing, I'm I'm 291 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: really confused as to why you're paying because IMAP is 292 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: a very standard that's a very standard way of accessing 293 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: web email accounts, and so I'm not sure why you're 294 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: having to pay to do that unless you're Unless you're 295 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: paying go daddy. I mean they you know, they may 296 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: charge you for each email account, like I have websites 297 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: that you have to pay, So that makes that makes sense. 298 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: If they're charging you for the the IMAP, you know, 299 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: email inbox, that make a lot of sense. But otherwise I'll. 300 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: Pay for that. But in order for thunder they're saying, 301 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: in order for Thunderbird Mozilla to to get it, I 302 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: have to have an extension or the something something. It's like, okay, oh, 303 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: I'll take a look at mail. 304 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, take a look at mail and uh. And also 305 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I would not discount the fact that you can just 306 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: use Gmail and put your emails in there, and I 307 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: do that with a lot of with a lot of 308 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: my email addresses as well. They all come to the 309 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,479 Speaker 1: same place. Another thing you can do is ask GoDaddy 310 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: to just forward your email to another email address, and 311 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: that way you can just get those all in one 312 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: email box, no matter where you use that. So there's 313 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to do this, but I think 314 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to the clients, it's really just a 315 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: matter of downloading a couple that you look at and 316 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: see and see which ones work for you, like for like, 317 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: for me, if I'm looking at Thunderbird like it's may, 318 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: it's maybe not a program that I'd want to use personally, 319 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, it kind of depends on what you're what 320 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: you're looking feel is that you like for a program. 321 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: I personally like accessing everything from the web. It's just 322 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: simpler and I can do it on my phone as well. 323 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: So good call, Thanks a lot, John, appreciate it. More 324 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: of your calls coming up next at Triple eight rich 325 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: one oh one. You can find me online at rich 326 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: On Tech, and coming up we're talking to Brian Tongue 327 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: about Apple Vision Pro. We're gonna head up to Coopertino 328 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: to do that. See you right back in a minute. 329 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here on 330 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: location in Cooper Tino at the campus of Apple for 331 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: ww DC joining me. This is your third time on 332 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: the show. Count it up, Brian Tong YouTube extraordinary Brian, 333 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me. 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 6: Am I the guest that's been on your show the most, 335 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 6: so the most. 336 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's an r. You're the guestest with the 337 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: most Yeah. Yeah, I like that. 338 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. Rich is awesome. Fun to be 339 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 6: here at Apple Park. Always there's like a different energy, 340 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 6: especially when they reveal a new product category for them, 341 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: and we got it. 342 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: So okay. So, so I've talked about this Apple Vision Pro, 343 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: but you and I actually got to try this. We 344 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: did the demo and this was for selected folks here 345 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: at the event, and my mind is blown away. It 346 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: is really incredible. But I also understand that this is 347 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: just the beginning. So what's your initial reaction to Apple 348 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Vision Pro trying. 349 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 6: I laughed multiple times. I laughed more times. I got 350 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 6: up and kind of like just ran around the table 351 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: just to see how it feels. Because a lot of times, 352 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 6: when you're wearing any type of headset, you don't trust this, 353 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 6: even if it's kind of a black and white, fuzzy 354 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 6: version of the world. You don't trust it this Obviously, 355 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 6: We've many people talk about the highest fidelity, the richest 356 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 6: color we've ever seen in a headset, the highest resolution, 357 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 6: the UI and the user interface, a vision OS. I 358 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 6: don't think people are talking about that team enough of 359 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 6: what they did and then the experiences they showed us. 360 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 6: Maybe what ten percent of this thing can do. Yeah, 361 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 6: and again, this is a product that you can't know. 362 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 6: Anyone that's listening or even seeing our videos. It will 363 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 6: never translate how it is when you're inside of it. 364 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 6: There's nothing like I've ever experienced before. I've tried pretty 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 6: much every VR headset. This is not a VR. This 366 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: is more of an AR experience primarily. 367 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: Did you notice, by the way, Apple never said those words. 368 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: Yes, I know it's spatial computing rich, that's the buzzword. 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: But it is. I mean, this is the thing. So, 370 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many things to break down with this. 371 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Number One, you did exactly what I did. I got 372 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: up and I walked around that room. Now I've tried 373 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: that with some other headsets and you can't. It's possible, 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: but it's not really possible. This. I got up, I 375 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: look down at my foot, I hit the table just 376 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: to see like how far it was. There was no 377 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: latency whatsoever. And I think the magic here is that 378 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: somehow they nailed bridging the real with the virtual a 379 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: in a way we've never seen before. 380 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 6: And it's all, you know, as they talked about and 381 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 6: we've known this for the past year's Apple Silicon is 382 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 6: the genius, is the brains, is the engine behind all this, 383 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 6: and it has completely opened up their ability to do 384 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 6: something like this in a form factor like that, and 385 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 6: it just you know, you hear all these rumors, and 386 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: sometimes rumors can set your expectations. How about the fact 387 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 6: that they blew every expectation out of the water with 388 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 6: the at least the experience. I do have comments about 389 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 6: how it feels, you know, the weight of it all, 390 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 6: but it I don't know. I've just talked about or 391 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 6: trying to explain it. Sometimes that speech is I just 392 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 6: laughed at I said that was just stupid, and they 393 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 6: were laughing, I mean saying, I was like, this is stupid. 394 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: I laughed. I laughed as well, like I was sitting 395 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: there like because it's one of these things. It's almost 396 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: like that experience of feeling something new for the first time, 397 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: where you're sitting there and like I was looking at 398 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: my hands, I was kind of just looking at the 399 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: op system, just kind of looking around, because you look 400 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: inside this headset at what you want to select, and 401 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: then you just pinch your fingers together and it selects it. 402 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: So they nailed the operating system. We looked at pictures 403 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: in three D and videos. What aspect were you most 404 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: impressed with in the demo? 405 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: Absolutely the selection and the see people that a lot 406 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: of people haven't even had a headset experience in general, 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 6: and a lot of people have not had a headset 408 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 6: experience with emotion tracking. Now, the actual PSVR two does 409 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 6: a really amazing job of emotion tracking. Quite honestly, the 410 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 6: response miss is the same, but the OS is not 411 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: built for it. It only works in certain games, so 412 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 6: you don't get to like live this emotion tracking selection 413 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: world constantly. With the Apple Vision Pro, you're constantly doing 414 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 6: it and it becomes so second nature. I know my 415 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 6: mom could use this if she jumped in. If she 416 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 6: jumped in a lot of times when they say, oh, 417 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: you have to hold your hands in this general area 418 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 6: to do this gesture. Nah, and then the fact that 419 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 6: this these gestures, I was watching some of the developer videos. 420 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: Developers is gonna be able to make their own custom 421 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: gestures for their own games. Oh wow, this is going 422 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 6: to open up a lot more interactivity when we're like, well, 423 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: how are you going to control these games with your 424 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 6: hands and your fingers? That's I mean, you talk to 425 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: some developers and I cannot wait to see what happens 426 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 6: with this canvas of basically unlimited potential. We were talking 427 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 6: in superlatives right now, but it's so appropriate. It's so appropriate, 428 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 6: it's crazy. 429 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Now. You mentioned the weight and feel on your head, 430 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: so I it was a little bit heavier than I expected. 431 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I think that that's a that's easily improvable over the years. 432 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: That's something that will just take a little bit of time. 433 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: But the comfort level was there, the clarity was there, 434 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: and again for a first outing product, they really did 435 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: a good job. It does exceed expectations. And it's one 436 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: of these things where I'm reading all the comments from people, 437 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the hot takes that are coming in from social media, 438 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: and people are like, rich, how can you have an 439 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: opinion on this, Like, give me a break, it's too expensive. 440 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: But I think what we're missing here is that this 441 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: is an entirely new way to compute that we've been 442 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: promised for years and now this is the beginning of it. 443 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: I think everyone is so fixated on the price, but 444 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: you have, let's strip that away for a second look 445 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 6: at the technology. And it's different because we have been 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 6: fortunate enough to actually experience it. 447 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: Now. 448 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: Even before I experience it, I'm like, that is worth it. 449 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 6: And then when I experienced I'm like, oh my gosh, 450 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 6: this is crazy. And I'm not even saying that I'm 451 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 6: going to spend that money. You know, I do review 452 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 6: tech for a living. Will I buy it to review it? Yes, 453 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 6: But if you ask me right now today what I 454 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: throw down thirty five hundred dollars for it, I'm they 455 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 6: really pushed me to the edge, but I'm still like, 456 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 6: I'm going to wait and see. And part of it 457 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 6: was just because for me, the comfort I had kind 458 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 6: of three or four ideas going into it. 459 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: I wanted. 460 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 6: I was hoping it would be the lightest kind of 461 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 6: headset we've ever felt. Because we heard about the reports 462 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: of the battery pack being separate, I was hoping that 463 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 6: would be a highest fidelity I've ever seen in a 464 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 6: had said that delivered on that. I was hoping that 465 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: we'd get experiences that we've never seen before. It delivered 466 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: on that, and a UI and a user interface that 467 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: was just smooth like butter, And it. 468 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: Delivered on that. 469 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: So three of those four right, and like you said, 470 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 6: it's going to get better. So I don't, at least initially, 471 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm going to be able to 472 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 6: watch a two hour movie with it, because quite honestly, 473 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: that's one of the killer apps for me. 474 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. 475 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: We've seen all the images at least of the strap 476 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: in the back, but it's also a modular where there's 477 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 6: a strap on top that they did not shove a 478 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 6: little still the scenes, which is also for weight distribution. 479 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 6: Right by putting that strap on the top, it pulls 480 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 6: it back. And so I don't know about you. I 481 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 6: do feel the weight is a little more heavy on 482 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: the front, and I think part of it is because 483 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 6: it's so sleek. A lot of these other headsets, different designs, 484 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 6: different purposes. The battery on the back does counterweight it 485 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 6: and kind of pull it back down, and so that's 486 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: a design choice that they made. 487 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: It's not horrible, I'm not saying that, but after one. 488 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 6: I was like maybe ten to fifteen minutes and I 489 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 6: started feeling the weight because I've worn a lot of these, 490 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 6: and so my first thing right when I started feeling 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 6: I'm like, wait, am I going to feel this two 492 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 6: hours in for a movie? Probably? But the experience at 493 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 6: us is so good that I might be willing to 494 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: overlook it because the experience is so good. 495 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: And I you and I've covered tech for how long? 496 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 6: Many twenty plus years, and so I think you and 497 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: I have this per se. Like I was going to 498 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 6: talk about some other podcasts, but I was almost like 499 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 6: I was so joyful. I was like about, it's so stupid, 500 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 6: but I was about to tear up because, like, I 501 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: can't believe what we're seeing, seeing how tech has evolved 502 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 6: all these years, and this something that you and I 503 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 6: genuinely love it. 504 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: It's something that'll do, it's something it's after all these years, 505 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: you're still experiencing something that's brand new. And by the way, 506 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: we're just at the beginning. So imagine in five years when, 507 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: by the way, the weight is a lot less, the 508 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: cost is a lot less. The features, I mean just 509 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: the features that I saw watching the movie, flipping through 510 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: the pictures, and it was all so simple. Like when 511 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: I was doing the hand gestures, it wasn't like I 512 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: had to learn something new or where the buttons were 513 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: or where the you know, how to do things. You 514 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: looked at what you wanted to do, and then you pulled, 515 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: you moved. It was just like we imagined the future 516 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: would be. 517 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 6: Think about this. A lot of people have talked about 518 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 6: for years about oh, what is Apple without Steve Jobs? 519 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 6: And there's DNA of course through the history of this 520 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: company that is in this product. But they've squashed that 521 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 6: talk now that you know they're not as innovative as 522 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 6: they were without Steve Jobs. 523 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: I think that's talked. 524 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: You can push that aside because this is the most 525 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 6: innovative thing we have seen, quite honestly, from almost any 526 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 6: tech company. Ah, it's exciting. It's an exciting time, my friends. 527 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: I'm staring in the air and smiling because it was. 528 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 6: It was a joyful experience. 529 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, you got to wait another couple of months before 530 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: you can actually get this thing again, because early twenty 531 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: twenty four they haven't said when. Yeah, but we're already 532 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: trying to guess when that might be. Starting started already 533 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: at thirty four ninety and that doesn't include tax. But 534 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: here's the deal again, this is not something that we're 535 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and say you have to get day one. 536 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: You will know if you're the person that wants to 537 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: get at day one, and if you have the means 538 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: to do that, by all means, it's going to be amazing, amazing, amazing. 539 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: Brian Tong, How can folks find you online? 540 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: The main place? Go to YouTube dot com slash Briantong. 541 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 6: I cover tech a lot of Apple, Samsung, Google TV's headphones, 542 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: whatever it is. I love tech, but I do a 543 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 6: lot in the Apple sphere and then on Twitter. Brian 544 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 6: Tong got a podcast. Do just look me up. If 545 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 6: the search engines work the way they're supposed to do, 546 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 6: you'll find me. 547 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: Brian Tong, thanks so much for joining me on the show. 548 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 6: Thank you, Rich, appreciate it. 549 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: Buddy more Rich on Tech coming your way right after this. 550 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: So many things to get to in the show this week, 551 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: many many announcements. We'll get to iOS seventeen, some new 552 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: features coming there. We've got some more information about Samsung's 553 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: next event, which I believe I'll be going to. That's 554 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: very exciting. Then We've got this new scam that involves 555 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: restaurant reservations. But first let's go to Susan online one 556 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Susan, you're on with Rich. 557 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 7: Oh my god, Rich, thank you. I love you. I 558 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 7: love your show. You your demeanor is just absolutely wonderful. 559 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: Thank you well, thank you. 560 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 7: I just love your show. I was a little nervous 561 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 7: when when you started, and you know, but you're just fantastic. 562 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 7: Thank you. Well. 563 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: I was nervous when I started. I'm still nervoussparent wonderful, 564 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: thank you. 565 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, what can I help you? I'm buying. I'm choosing 566 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 7: a television for a friend. He's eighty five years old. 567 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 7: He lives up north, so I'll be helping him set 568 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 7: it up over the phone. And he we used to 569 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 7: buy everything from Costco. Costco does not carry video anymore. 570 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 7: I really like video. I have a video. He had 571 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: a video. Customer support is great with video, so I 572 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 7: just thought to keep things simple, I should probably stick 573 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: with a video. So one of my questions is going 574 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 7: to be if you think I should get it from 575 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 7: Amazon Prime or Video Direct. But until we get to 576 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: where I buy it, I have two models. I'm comparing. 577 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 7: They're both twenty twenty threes. They're both forty three inch. 578 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 7: One is the V series V like Victor, and the 579 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 7: other is the M series. Do you want the two 580 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 7: model numbers? 581 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't need the model numbers. Twenty twenty threes, okay, 582 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: So you've got the V series and the M series 583 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: of the video. 584 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty twenty three, right, and one of them. The 585 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 7: only difference I know of, there's two differences I know of. 586 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 7: One is a Q lead, which I know nothing about 587 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 7: the O And the other thing is that the Q lead, 588 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 7: which obviously is more money, has smaller speakers, and the 589 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 7: M series that's cheaper, has larger speakers. Not much of 590 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 7: a difference. Eight watts compared to nine watts divided by 591 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 7: two speakers. I really, my old old video has eight 592 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: watts and they're fantastic speakers. 593 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: And is the M series a little bit more expensive? 594 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: I'm assuming it will be yes. 595 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Okay, because the M a V. I don't know if 596 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: this if it stands for value, but I believe the 597 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: V is the lower end of the two. 598 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely lower end. 599 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay. So I mean, what's what's the deciding factor is 600 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: at the price. 601 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 7: Of these two q let important. The V is not 602 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 7: a q. 603 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Let them right, The V is not gonna Yeah, so 604 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: the q let is going to have a slightly better 605 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: display technology, you know, from more angles, it's going to 606 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: be a little bit brighter. Four K by the way, Okay, yeah, 607 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's pretty standard nowadays. So what what 608 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: is important to the person you're buying the TV for? 609 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 7: Well, it's really more Well he wanted he wanted four k. Uh, 610 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 7: he doesn't know, he does. I mean I was ready 611 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 7: to get a ten. 612 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: A d P. 613 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 7: I didn't even realize that you've got to get the 614 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: four K. 615 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Now, So well, I mean, yeah, you don't need the 616 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: four K. But almost every TV he has it nowadays. 617 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 7: Here's a LEAD and what is the other one? O LEAD? 618 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Well, the OLEAD is better than q LEAD. So you know, 619 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: there's LED, there's q l ED, there's micro LED, there 620 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: is O LEAD. I mean, there's so many different types 621 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: of display technologies, but O LEAD is really the best. 622 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: All the rest are just an LCD technology, so they 623 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: all use the same technology. It's just a lot of 624 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: it is the type of pixels they're using, how many 625 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: they're using, and also the back lighting of that TV. 626 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: The more backlighting you have, the more the picture pops 627 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: in different places. 628 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 7: You knowing from a twenty two inch twenty year old 629 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 7: video or something, so he's gonna love or a five 630 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 7: year old Samsung. It's just either seven eighty or ten. Okay, 631 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 7: he's gonna love it. 632 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: Susan, I think I think you. 633 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 7: Just answered your own question you're saying. 634 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I think you just. 635 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 7: I think you just answered. Just get whichever one I want. 636 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Know what about this, I would say front, Well, the speakers, yeah, 637 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's definitely a consideration. So the speakers on 638 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: TVs are traditionally not very good. Because you're saying that 639 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: your speakers on your video are good, then you know, 640 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: I think you'll be okay there. I was going to suggest, 641 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, with the with the Roku TVs, you can 642 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: add an extra speaker very easily. They have like this 643 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: wireless speaker that works really nicely. But look, if you're 644 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: set on these video TVs, is there you can't see 645 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: them in a store. Huh, that's the problem. You can't 646 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: go and see them. Can you go to like a 647 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: best Buy and check them out? 648 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 7: No? But I'm assuming it's pretty much the way my 649 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 7: mine is five years old and they look pretty similar. 650 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the speakers though, can be you know, 651 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: depending on the placement of them, they can be very 652 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: different sounding. That's the only sound, right, So you know 653 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: the look I think overall, the difference, well, there's I mean, 654 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: there's a difference there. But I think that the reality 655 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: is one of these is more of a value oriented set. 656 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: One is a higher end set. So if you want, 657 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, the best that you can get at this 658 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: price point, then I would go with the M. If 659 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: you feel like it's not going to be that big 660 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: of a deal and you think that, I mean, look 661 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: what I tell people when they're upgrading from TVs. Ninety 662 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: percent of the time they're upgrading from a TV that's 663 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: ten years old. Anything they get is going to be better, 664 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: especially in this case, you're telling me he has a 665 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: very old set. So I think either one is going 666 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: to be fine. I think at the end of the day, 667 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: if the audio is horrible on this set and he 668 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: just can't hear it or he's having trouble, you can 669 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: easily add of a sound bar for under one hundred 670 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: dollars that will change everything. So I would just go 671 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: with whatever one you think if it's one hundred dollars 672 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: more for the better one, maybe just go with the 673 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: better one because he's going to be keeping this for 674 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, another five ten years, and so if you 675 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: do the math, it's it's a pretty good value there. So, 676 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: but in general, the video stuff is nice, and you know, 677 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: I like their operating system. It's a it's a good 678 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: In fact, they're you know, Irvine company, so you know, 679 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: local to California as well. So I'm glad that you're 680 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: doing this form. Susan, thank you so much for doing 681 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: that for your friend. Great question. TVs are always, you know, 682 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: it's always one of these things where it's an impulse 683 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: by I've got a visio in my like kind of 684 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: den playroom and it's fine. It's got HDR. It was 685 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: very inexpensive. I picked it up. It was a forty 686 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: three inch. I picked it up at Costco back when 687 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: they sold them at Costco. Now I use it with 688 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: an external speaker, so I can't really vouch for the 689 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: speaker quality, but it's been great and it works just fine. 690 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: So a good question there. All right, let me tell 691 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: you about this scam real quick involving open table and 692 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: your restaurant reservations. So I got an email from open 693 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: Table saying there's an increase in scams targeting diners and 694 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: the hospitality industry. So apparently people are calling people asking 695 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: to pretending they're a restaurant and asking for your credit 696 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: card details, often saying you need to request a deposit 697 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: for a reservation, and it sounds far fetched. You're like, 698 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: wait a second, you don't need a reservation. You don't 699 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: need a deposit for a restaurant reservation. But a lot 700 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: of restaurants, especially in the popular areas, are now requiring 701 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: not a deposit per se, but a credit card number. 702 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: So it's very easy to say, oh, hey, we're calling 703 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: from this restaurant and we need your your credit card number, 704 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: and you give it to them, thinking oh, that's kind 705 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: of odd, but you give it and next thing you know, 706 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: they're stealing your information. So just be very careful. Typically, 707 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: if you're using open table, you're going through open table 708 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: itself and you're putting your credit card info through there. 709 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: But just be aware this is now happening new scam 710 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: where someone will call saying they're from a restaurant and 711 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: they want your credit card details. If you're in doubt, 712 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: hang up, call the restaurant directly and then say, hey, 713 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: did you call and ask me for this? Don't call 714 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: back the number that they called you from, because it's 715 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: probably a scam too. You're listening to rich on Tech 716 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 717 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one more the 718 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: show coming up after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 719 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, broadcasting live from 720 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: Alie Saul Ranch in Santa Barbara Wine Country. What a 721 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: place to be broadcasting beautiful, beautiful area. Sun's not out, 722 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: but you know, California has been seeing some interesting weather 723 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: over the past six months. I don't know what it is, 724 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: but it's still beautiful and it's still very relaxing, and 725 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm quite impressed that we're able to do the show 726 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: from here because it's a place where people come to 727 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: disconnect from all technology. But somehow here we are very 728 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: much connected. Phone lines are open at Triple eight rich 729 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to 730 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. You can email in hello 731 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: at Richontech dot TV. Let's go to line two. Michael 732 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: in Thousand Oaks. Michael, you have a comment about the 733 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: Vision Pro. 734 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, more of a question. So a long time ago, 735 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: when I or iTunes still had DRM, I kind of 736 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: chose the Google or the Android system. I went forward 737 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: from that. So I've never been attached to Apple, but 738 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: it's sounds like this new headset is kind of a 739 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: game changer, and I wouldn't mind getting into it. It's 740 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: just how hard would it be to integrate everything that 741 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: I like, whether it's Google Photos or Gmail or you know, 742 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: anything like that into the new Apple ecosystem. 743 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: Oh good question. So that's a great question because you're 744 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: you're talking to a guy who does use the iPhone 745 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: as his primary device, but has a loyalty to Google 746 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: products and services that I really enjoy. And so I 747 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: am using most of those things that you just talked about, 748 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: whether it is, you know, Google Photos, whether it's Gmail, 749 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: and so all of it works on the iPhone and 750 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: on Apple products. Some of it is just not as 751 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: good as it is on the Android side. And the 752 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: two operating systems are very different. So Android let's developers 753 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: have a lot more leeway with what they can do 754 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: and how apps can interact with each other, and what 755 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: apps can do and all these different things, whereas iOS 756 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: is at its heart very much sandboxed, which means all 757 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: apps sort of have to run in their own little area, 758 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: and yes they can interact with other apps, but it's 759 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: very much in a controlled manner that Apple allows. So, 760 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: for instance, when you open up a link for a 761 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: YouTube video, ninety percent of the time on the Android, 762 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 1: it's just going to open up in the YouTube app. 763 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: But if you open up a link for a YouTube 764 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: video on an iPhone, ninety percent of the time, it's 765 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: going to open up in its own little tiny web 766 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: browser inside the app that you're using, and it may 767 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: not connect to your account. So let's say you want 768 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: to go back later on on your YouTube history and 769 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: see you know that you watch that video, it may 770 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: not appear on there on the iPhone because you're not 771 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: logged in, because it's using like a separate web browser 772 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: to do that. So it's just little nuances like that. 773 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: But overall, Michael, I think that the transition would be 774 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: a little rocky, but I think that everything does work, 775 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: and believe me, it can work harmoniously. It's just not 776 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: in the same way that if you were using all 777 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: of Apple stuff. I always joke with the iPhone, you know, 778 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: and the way Apple does stuff that you know, their 779 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: ideal is that you're using almost all of their own stuff. 780 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: And they've gotten a little bit better about this. But 781 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: traditionally the iPhone, the features that Apple builds into it, 782 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: they sort of work best. Gosh, like they use their 783 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: own stuff to their advantage, you know, like the music 784 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: app works really well, the notes app works really well, 785 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: the reminders works really well with Siri, and they've tried 786 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: to open things up over the years, but I just 787 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: don't know if it's to the extent of the open 788 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: and sort of free system that Google has going on 789 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: with Android. Now, look, this is an ongoing debate. I'm 790 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: not going to sit here and tell you one's better 791 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: than the other. I think they both very much have 792 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: their their pros and cons, and some people are die 793 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: hard Android, some people are die hard iPhone. The one 794 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: thing I will say that I do not that I 795 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: really really disagree with when it comes to what Apple 796 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: has done is I Message. And I know people love 797 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: I Message, but I am not a fan of the 798 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: fact that Apple has sort of broken this cross platform 799 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: communication between all phones in the world. So ninety nine 800 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: percent of phones in the world use something called RCS, 801 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: which is a modern text messaging protocol which can give 802 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: you you know, you can send through large videos, photos, 803 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: you can get read you know, indicators and typing indicators. 804 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: But Apple has decided to take your phone number and 805 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: make it their own I Message thing. And so that's 806 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: the one thing I do take issue with. I really 807 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: don't like that fact because people that are on I Message, 808 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: sure it's great, it's amazing, but when you start to 809 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: text cross platform between I Message and Android, it gets 810 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: a little messy. And Apple has the means to make 811 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: it not messy, but they have so far chosen not 812 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: to do that. So good question, Michael. I wouldn't switch 813 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: over just yet. I think you've got some time to 814 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: figure it out. But yes, you are right. And this 815 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: is why Apple continues to come up with these game 816 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: changing products because they know that eventually it will have 817 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: that halo effect of getting people in their ecosystem. And yeah, 818 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: Apple products work really well with each other. They do. Okay, 819 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: since we're talking about Apple, let me tell you what's 820 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: coming up on iOS seventeen. This is the new version 821 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: of the software that Apple unveiled at WWDC. They showed 822 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: off a whole bunch of new features. So I guess 823 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: first things first, I'm going to tell you the bad news. 824 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: The bad news is there's a couple of phones that 825 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: will not be getting the update to iOS seventeen, which 826 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: means it's the end of the line for major software 827 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: operating system upgrades for these phones. And the three phones 828 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: that it affects are the iPhone, the iPhone eight plus, 829 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: and the iPhone ten. Those phones will not be getting 830 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: iOS seventeen. So the ten are and up will be 831 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: getting iOS seventeen. And yes, it does include the second 832 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: generation iPhone se so if you have that, that's like 833 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: the last phone with a home button that will be 834 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: getting iOS seventeen. And that just came out a couple 835 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: years ago, so it's pretty new anyway. But if you 836 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: have the iPhone eight, eight plus or ten, you will 837 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: not be getting iOS seventeen. Now, what I'm not clear 838 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: on is if you will continue to get security updates 839 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: for another year or two. You may because Apple recently 840 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: with iOS sixteen, divided the operating system updates from the 841 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: security updates, so you may still get security updates. You 842 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: don't have to like toss your phone in the trash today, 843 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: all right. Couple new features in iOS seventeen number one 844 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: Live voicemail. This means that you can see a real 845 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: time transcription as someone is leaving a voicemail and you 846 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: can decide if you want to pick that up. FaceTime 847 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: will support audio and video messages, so if someone doesn't 848 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: pick up FaceTime, you can leave them a message and 849 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: also an I message. Is a new feature called check in. 850 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: This is a safety feature, so when you're leaving something 851 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: like a bar or school or wherever and you want 852 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: to tell a friend or family member when you're going 853 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: to get home, you don't have to do this manual anymore. 854 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: You can just say set a check in, and when 855 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: you get to your destination, they will see they will 856 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: get a text that has information that you've arrived safely. 857 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: If you go off course or you don't arrive in 858 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: a reasonable amount of time, they will get a text 859 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: that gives you information, gives them information about you. So 860 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: they'll get the device's location, the battery level of your phone, 861 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: and your cell phone service status so that they can say, like, huh, 862 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: it's odd, I guess they went to someone else's house 863 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: or where are they what's going on? And they can 864 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: take action. A new feature called name Drop is a 865 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: play on air drop, so you can bump two iPhones 866 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: together or an iPhone in an Apple Watch and exchange 867 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: contact information, which I think is a really really cool feature. 868 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: I wish that was just built into every phone, but 869 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: I guess it will be for iPhones. Let's see what else. 870 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: Autocorrect is getting better. I know there's this big A 871 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about it on their Instagram 872 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: and memes and stuff, where it will now allow you 873 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: to use swear words. It won't automatically correct those to 874 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: a non swear word, and people are celebrating that. But 875 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess I just don't swear in my texts enough 876 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: to be appreciative of that. But people are really really 877 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: excited about that feature. Then there's this thing called standby, 878 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: and this is when your phone is on its side 879 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: and charging, it will display personalized information like your photos 880 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: or a calendar or anything else. It's got a lot 881 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: of different options. With the iPhone fourteen Pro, which has 882 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: the always on display, you'll always see it. On the 883 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: other phones, you'll just have to tap the screen to 884 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: see it. Then they've got this new journaling app. It's 885 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: called Journal and This is really smart. It's kind of 886 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: a health app. It will help you practice gratitude through journaling, 887 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: which they say has been shown to improve your well 888 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 1: being and I do believe that. But it does something 889 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: a little bit smarter. It will pull from things like 890 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: your GPS and your photos to kind of suggest starter 891 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: journal entries. And of course this is all encrypted in private, 892 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: as only Apple does. Screen Time will now tell you 893 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: when you're using your phone too much, so it's going 894 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: to try to help you avoid some eye issues. So 895 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: if you're holding your phone really close to your face 896 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: more than twelve inches for an extended period of time, 897 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: it's going to warn you and say, hey, you might 898 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: want to pull that phone back or take a break 899 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Air tags can now be shared 900 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: with other people, which is nice. So if you have 901 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: air tags, you can share their location with friends and family. 902 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: Let's see what else. Oh, Siri is now just Siri. 903 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to say hey, Siri anymore. Now you 904 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: can just say Siri. And again that's in iOS seventeen. 905 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: And there's a feature in photos that will now allow 906 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: you to recognize your dog and your caps you can 907 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: make an album for them. And finally, did I already say. Finally, 908 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: one more thing is called sensitive Content Warning. This will 909 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: help you avoid seeing unwanted nude images and videos. So 910 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: it will screen the pictures that come in and the 911 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: videos that come in on your phone, especially through text messages, 912 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: and it will say, it will blur them out and say, 913 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: h some nudity in here. Do you want to see this? 914 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: And that can help protect you from unwanted nude pictures. 915 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: And yes, that is a thing. People send these things 916 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: day and night, every day, and again I guess it's 917 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: not something that I send, so I just don't have 918 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of experience with that, but it is a 919 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: nice safety protection. All right. There you have it. New 920 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: features coming to iOS seventeen in the fall. There will 921 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: be a public beta coming I believe next month, So 922 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: if you really want to try those out a little 923 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 1: bit earlier, there is an opportunity to do that, although 924 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: I only recommend doing that if you know what you're 925 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: doing with your phone. Coming up on the show, we're 926 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: going to talk to some award winning app developers. We're 927 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: going to head back up to WWDC and talk to 928 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: some developers of the app Flighty and another tennis app 929 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: that uses AI to check out your swing and give 930 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: you some information about that. Phone lines are open at 931 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one. You are listening to 932 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 933 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you on a beautiful weekend, 934 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: talking technology at Triple eight Rich one O one eight 935 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 936 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about this Apple Vision Pro, 937 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: this new VR headset, and I'm just curious what you think, like, 938 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: are you gonna switch? Are you gonna pay? I mean, 939 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: thirty five hundred dollars is a lot of money. And 940 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: not only is it a lot of money, the way 941 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: that I think of things is you got to divide 942 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: it up by how much you're gonna use this thing. Right, 943 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: So when I buy my laptop computer, yeah it's expensive, 944 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna use it for three years, and then 945 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: gonna give it to a family member who's gonna use 946 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: it for another three years, and then you know, on 947 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: and on, and you do the math on that, and 948 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good value. But thirty five hundred dollars 949 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: for a first generation product, by the way, plus tax 950 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: plus accessories, are they gonna have Apple care on this thing. 951 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, so I did the math. I've got to 952 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: save up about one hundred and fifty dollars for the 953 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: next think about thirty nine weeks forty weeks before this 954 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: thing comes out or whatever it is till January. That 955 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: was my goal. And so I don't know. I mean, 956 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: it's just one of these things where I don't want 957 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: to pay that money, but I kind of want to 958 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: have this thing. So we'll say, let's go to line one. 959 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: Nile is in Clover City, California. Nile. You're on with Rich. 960 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 5: Hey, Rich, first time caller, longtime listener. Well, I know 961 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 5: show he's kind of brand new, but I've been listening 962 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 5: to you as the text show for the longest time. 963 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 5: But I have a question about Apple Vision pro on 964 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 5: what you think, you know for the future application on 965 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 5: somebody that has a stick because the more impairment with 966 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 5: their eyes, will it be you know, useful for some 967 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 5: of them has a problem with seeing long distance or 968 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 5: you know or reading classes. 969 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 3: To the correct your vision. 970 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: Great question, and this is something that I talked to 971 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: Apple about. So I did my demo, which was I mean, 972 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: it's very you know, Apple is is very buttoned up 973 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: when they do all of this stuff, they have it 974 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: all figured out, so you go into this. They built 975 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: this new facility just to demo this device, and it's 976 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: on their campus and I imagine it'll be there for 977 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: the next six months because they're probably gonna have people 978 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: coming in to demo these things throughout the next six months. 979 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: Uh So I did my demo, and after my demo, 980 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: I got to sit down with some Apple people to 981 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, any questions I have. And one 982 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: of the big questions a lot of people have is 983 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: what does this mean for people with vision accessibility issues? 984 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: And Apple has really been on the forefront of many 985 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: many accessibility features and they are one percent committed to 986 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: making this work for as many types of vision abilities 987 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: as there are out there, and that ranges from low 988 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: vision to partial vision to seeing issues, you know, whether 989 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: it's prescription glasses, whether it is you know, I even 990 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: had a question of if someone has only vision in 991 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: one eye, will it work. They didn't give me the 992 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: answers to all of these things, but they said they 993 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: have an entire team that is working to make sure 994 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: that this is going to be an incredible solution for 995 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: people that have different vision issues. And so when I 996 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: went in there, and I don't wear glasses, but when 997 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: I went in there, they actually did a quick little 998 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: vision assessment to say, hey, you know, do you wear 999 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,479 Speaker 1: prescription glasses? And they had some lenses there that people 1000 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: were able to put on. Now, from what I've heard, 1001 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: the lenses are going to be an add on for 1002 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: at least prescription lenses, and it will be you know, 1003 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: we don't know the price just yet, but you know, 1004 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: I've heard numbers being thrown out there. But this is 1005 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: a highly personalized product. So when I asked the question 1006 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: can I share this with someone else in my household, 1007 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 1: it's really personalized because they measure the fit of your 1008 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: face on this this light seal that they've got, and 1009 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: so it'll come in a whole bunch of different sizes, 1010 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: so it's really personalized just for you. And then of 1011 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: course it scans your irises to unlock, which is another 1012 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: interesting feature. But niall a great question. I think that 1013 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: Apple is going to really really think about how this 1014 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: can can open up new worlds for people with low 1015 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: vision and varying vision abilities, and I think that's a 1016 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: really great thing. And just seeing this technology in person, 1017 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: it's quite incredible, and I think that it should be 1018 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: shared with as many people as possible and hopefully they 1019 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 1: do get that price down. So thanks for calling today. 1020 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. All right, switching gearsh Oh, you're still there. 1021 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh hey, I didn't know you're still on there. Switching gears. Here, 1022 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: Let's let me talk about I know, I know, I've 1023 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: said so much Apple stuff. So if you're listening and 1024 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: you're like, rich enough of the Apple stuff, I get it. 1025 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: It's a big deal for Apple though this week. But 1026 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: there is some Samsung news as well. Samsung is going 1027 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: to host their twenty seventh Unpacked event in Seoul, Korea 1028 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: in late July. Now I told you there's a rumor 1029 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: about this event happening. This is where Samsung is going 1030 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: to unveil I mean, this is rumor. They haven't said, 1031 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: but the new Galaxy z Fold five and the Flip five, 1032 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: which is so wild because I remember specifically testing these 1033 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: phones out last summer and I fell in love with 1034 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: the z Fold five. It was such a great phone. 1035 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: It was just that screen on the outside was just 1036 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: a little bit too small for my taste. But I 1037 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: feel like they're going to do a lot better with 1038 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: this new one. We'll see. But this is happening in Seoul, 1039 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 1: South Korea, and that is going to be in late July. 1040 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: They haven't said the exact date, but they're going to 1041 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: do this event at Cox And I'm not even gonna 1042 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: try to pronounce some of these places. But it's a 1043 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: cool area where it's a hub for startups and a 1044 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: millennial boot temple. So you've got startups and buddhists. How 1045 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: interesting is that. So I am doing my best to 1046 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: get there. I've never been to Korea. I think that 1047 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: this would be a great opportunity to go, So I am. 1048 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: I've gotten permission to go, so I expect me to 1049 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: be there, let's just put it that way. I've got 1050 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: to rearrange a couple of things, but I am very excited. 1051 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: And of course, you know, there's always some in trepidation 1052 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: of going to a new place that you've never been before. 1053 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,720 Speaker 1: But I'm excited and so again, Samsung Unpacked usually happens 1054 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: in New York, usually happens in Las Vegas, usually happens 1055 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: in Barcelona, London, Berlin. They've done these in various countries 1056 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: around the world, or various cities and countries. The first 1057 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: was in March twenty ten in Las Vegas. And so 1058 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: now they said, you know what, we're gonna do these 1059 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: in different places because these devices represent something new, something different, 1060 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: pushing the boundaries. And so let's go to our home 1061 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: town in Korea. And I'm curious because you know, we're 1062 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: so iPhone centric here in the US, so I'm curious 1063 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to be in Korea, where Samsung is 1064 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: such a behemoth pretty much the Apple over there. So, 1065 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: by the way, the Samsung Galaxy fold was introduced in 1066 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, which means it's been about four years and 1067 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: it's it's got a thirteen point six percent adoption rate 1068 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: in Korea, which is the highest in the world. So 1069 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: these foldable phones are really coming in very very fast 1070 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: from Google and now from Samsung and of course Apple. 1071 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: Eventually we'll get there, all right. Coming up, we're going 1072 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: to talk to two award winning developers of Flighty and 1073 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: Swing Vision. We're heading back up to WWDC more rich 1074 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: on Tech after this. Rich on Tech, Welcome back to 1075 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: the show. This is where I talk about the tech 1076 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: stuff I think you should know about, and it's also 1077 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: the place where I answer your questions very special guests 1078 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: for you. We are on site at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California, 1079 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: site of the Worldwide Developers Conference. I've got two great 1080 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,439 Speaker 1: app developers with me today. Ryan Jones of Flighty, who's 1081 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: actually been on the show before, welcome back, and swap 1082 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: Nol Sahai of swing Vision. This is an AI powered 1083 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: tennis app. You guys are both Apple Design winners. Welcome 1084 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: to the show and congratulations. 1085 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 8: Thank you for having us. 1086 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: All right, so Ryan, let's talk first. Since I used 1087 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 1: your app on my way up here. Flighty has gotten 1088 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,439 Speaker 1: so many accolades for its design. Did you set out 1089 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: to just make like the most beautiful flight tracking app? Ever? 1090 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 9: Honestly, it was something we talked about the guys that 1091 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 9: are on the team. There's three of us, and we 1092 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 9: kind of all came together around the idea of already 1093 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 9: agreeing that it was a problem that there was no 1094 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 9: way for flyers to get this information fast and easily. 1095 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 9: And when we were doing research on what did users 1096 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 9: want in the space, one of the things that people 1097 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 9: kept saying over and over was easy to use, which 1098 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 9: you know, sometimes people will say, but a lot of 1099 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 9: times they won't. A lot of times they'll say certain 1100 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 9: features that are specific to them, but the fact that 1101 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 9: people just kept saying easy to use over and over 1102 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 9: was really something that we thought we could hang our hat. 1103 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: On and swap noil this swing Vision app explain what 1104 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: it does well. 1105 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 8: Basically, you just set up your iPhone at the back 1106 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 8: of the tennis court and then it will track the 1107 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 8: ball trajectory for you just using your camera, and so 1108 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 8: you can tell whether the ball is in or out. 1109 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 8: It can track all of your stats, it'll create highlights 1110 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 8: of your game. It does quite a lot, and it's 1111 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 8: pretty crazy that it just does it with a single iPhone. 1112 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: I was going to say that sounds like something and 1113 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: I played tennis growing up, so I'm very familiar with 1114 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: the sport, but that sounds like something you needed a 1115 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of equipment for back in the day to accomplish 1116 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Definitely. 1117 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 8: I mean even today at the professional level, if you 1118 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 8: look at the US Open that's happening in New York, 1119 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 8: they have ten cameras around the court to do this, 1120 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 8: and so we're pretty much the first people to do 1121 00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 8: this with a single camera. 1122 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: And so what do you think the benefit is to 1123 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: the player? I think it helps you review your footag 1124 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: really efficiently. So if you play a match that's typically 1125 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: two hours long, you can watch it in like twenty minutes. 1126 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: You can say, show me every serve that I missed 1127 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: into the net and it'll immediately create a hot reel 1128 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 1: for you. So it's really efficient and fast to revere 1129 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: a game. And then the biggest problem in tennis has 1130 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: always been line calling. You have to call the ball 1131 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: in or out yourself. We finally solve that for kind 1132 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: of the average person, which is really exciting and a 1133 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: lot of like high school college athletes will have this 1134 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: for the first time ever now and it just takes 1135 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: one iPhone. 1136 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, it just takes one iPhone and we can see 1137 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 8: both sides of the court. The camera is just so 1138 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 8: powerful and the neural engine on the iPhone really allows 1139 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 8: us to process all that information really quickly. 1140 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredible. So when you get this award 1141 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,439 Speaker 1: from Apple Apple Design Award, what does that mean? Does 1142 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: it get you more downloads, does it get people to 1143 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: notice you? What does that mean to you? 1144 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's everything. Like, as an app developer, 1145 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 8: that's what you dream of. I actually came here back 1146 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 8: in twenty fifteen as a student scholarship winner for WWDC. 1147 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 8: So this is just kind of like the stuff you 1148 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 8: dream of. It's amazing for us to finally get to 1149 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 8: this point. 1150 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: And Ryan, yeah, the same for us. 1151 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 9: It really partly is kind of just an internal recognition 1152 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 9: and a kind of a thank you. I think that 1153 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 9: Apple's able to provide the community because a lot of 1154 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 9: us know within the community who the other Apple Design 1155 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 9: Award winners are. But it definitely is something that is 1156 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 9: kind of a gold medal in our world. 1157 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: Did you used to work for Apple at some point? 1158 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: I did. 1159 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, back in operations, so nothing related to software or anything. 1160 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 9: Worked in iPhone operations, more or less predicting sales and 1161 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 9: bringing units over from China. 1162 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, but you weren't here in Kupertino, were you? 1163 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: That's correct. I was in Austin, Okay. You're in Austin, 1164 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: beautiful place. I was just there by the way. Yeah, 1165 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: it's our second biggest campus now. They have a big 1166 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: presence there. Yeah, a lot of tech companies in Austin, Okay. 1167 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: So while we were here, we saw this new headset 1168 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: and I imagine your kind of brain is already working 1169 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: on the possibilities of how to code for it and 1170 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: maybe extend your app for that headset. Is there something 1171 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: you thought of that could work for that? 1172 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to sports, 1173 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 8: at least, you know, there's an immediate application of just training. 1174 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 8: You know, imagine you're playing tennis, you're hitting some serves 1175 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 8: and there's virtual targets that appear above the net. You 1176 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 8: know exactly where you should be hitting. You could see 1177 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 8: kind of a shadow of another player and how you're 1178 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 8: supposed to be doing your swing. So I just think 1179 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 8: there's there's so many applications to sports, But I think 1180 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 8: beyond that, it's just very exciting that it's going to 1181 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 8: touch kind of every facet of our life. 1182 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 10: Now. 1183 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we've been thinking the same thing. 1184 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 9: You know, this is our first kind of look at 1185 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 9: it and real understanding of exactly what capabilities is going 1186 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 9: to bring. You even saw Apple highlight in the keynote 1187 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 9: the actual usage of being on an airplane. So it's something 1188 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 9: we thought about could potentially be applicable, and you know, 1189 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 9: it's kind of endless possibilities. At the moment, we're thinking 1190 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 9: about stuff like notifying you if you're flying over the 1191 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 9: Grand Canyon and here you can get a little view 1192 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 9: of what it would be like as you're going over it, 1193 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 9: or hey, you can't look out the window because you're 1194 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 9: in an aisle seat. Here's what the skyline looks like 1195 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 9: at the window. So there's just all kinds of crazy 1196 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 9: things that you kind of have to wrap your mind 1197 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 9: around for the first time. 1198 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Are you ready to wear the headset for your next 1199 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: flight to like watch a movie or something like that. 1200 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe I'm a little biased, but I actually think 1201 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 9: it's gonna be one of the first places people kind 1202 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 9: of think it's okay and adopt it out in public. 1203 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 9: You know, if you think about getting on a plane, 1204 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 9: people are already trying to kind of how can I 1205 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 9: get the best noise canceling. 1206 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Possible, Like just make the baby go away. I don't 1207 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: want to hear the crying. 1208 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 9: And that's if you're a parent here just exactly so 1209 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 9: the other people who wanted even more, you got to 1210 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 9: bring them for everybody in your aisle. 1211 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I've been in that, believe me. I've got two kids 1212 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: and I was I went through that whole phase of 1213 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: flying and it's like, you don't want your kid to 1214 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: make like a peep, and if you when you sit 1215 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: down in the row. You have to like almost apologize 1216 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: to everyone around. You're like, I swear they'll be a 1217 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: good kid, They'll be perfectly fine. But now my kids 1218 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: are just on their iPad the whole time. So then 1219 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: even they're like, the flight's already over. Imagine when we 1220 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: all have these headsets on them on. So, what do 1221 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: you think is the most rewarding part of being a developer? 1222 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: What do you think is like, is the feedback from people? 1223 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Is it just seeing your app being used? 1224 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that one of the coolest 1225 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 8: experiences was definitely this WWDC just running too. Some of 1226 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 8: the developers around the world who like know our app 1227 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 8: and use it, you know, whenever we get featured by Apple. 1228 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 8: We've been featured in a few keynotes. It's just it's 1229 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 8: always amazing that you just kind of get to be 1230 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 8: a part of that developer community and also just kind 1231 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 8: of the wider community of the world too, just random 1232 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 8: people around the world using your product. 1233 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy and. 1234 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 8: You've created this thing that didn't exist before. I think 1235 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 8: that's probably the most rewarding part. 1236 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you have people in like different countries using your app? 1237 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: For sure? 1238 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean more than half for customers around the world. 1239 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 8: We have a bunch of people in Western Europe. Brazil 1240 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 8: is actually really big, China's a big country for US, Australia. 1241 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's all around the world. It's really 1242 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 8: crazy and I mean good playing sports everywhere, right, so 1243 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 8: everyone needs it. 1244 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: What were you doing before the app? 1245 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 8: I was at Tesla actually, so I was working on 1246 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 8: the autonomous driving team there doing computer vision for tracking 1247 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 8: all the cars and pedestrians, and so that's where it 1248 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 8: kind of got more familiar with this problem of using 1249 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 8: cameras to do really cool tracking of objects that are 1250 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 8: moving really fast. And also been a lifelong tennis player, 1251 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 8: so that's how I made that transition. 1252 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: And do you have plans for future apps different sports? 1253 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Are you going to stick to tennis? 1254 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, I mean that's the plan. You know, you 1255 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 8: look at what Strava has done where they initially started 1256 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 8: on cycling, then they started doing running, and so that's 1257 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 8: kind of what we want to do to expand beyond tennis. 1258 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 8: So this fall we're actually going into pickleball, which, as 1259 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 8: you know, is oh crazy. 1260 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1261 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 8: So and I mean in the future, you know, might 1262 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 8: go to baseball or golf, there's lots of other applications 1263 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 8: I think down the road for us. 1264 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Why did pickleball get so pop? I mean, I knew 1265 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: people that were playing that a long time ago, but 1266 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: why did all of a sudden just was like a 1267 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: movie or TV show? What made that so popular? 1268 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 8: It's it's weird. I mean, I think a lot of 1269 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 8: investment just came in. Pandemic also helped because there's one 1270 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 8: of the few sports you could play outdoors, right But 1271 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 8: I think that ultimately it's just really accessible. You can 1272 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 8: just pick it up right away. You know, there's no 1273 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 8: crazy motion that's hard to learn, like a serve in tennis, 1274 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 8: So it's just super accessible. You can have people at 1275 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 8: different levels playing it. To be fair, I still prefer 1276 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 8: tennis personally, but I see the appeal of pickable and 1277 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 8: I understand why it's going so quickly. 1278 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Does anything translate from the tennis skills to pickle ball? 1279 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Oh for sure? Yeah. 1280 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 8: I mean I think I think my fourhands are going 1281 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 8: to work pretty well on the pick up bow court. 1282 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I'll try. I know, the courts smaller, Ryan, 1283 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: how about you, What's what do you get out of 1284 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: all this? 1285 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 10: Like? 1286 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Personally? 1287 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, the I think someone was trying to explain what 1288 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 9: WWDC is kind of to us earlier this week, and 1289 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 9: it's some sort of combination of Christmas but also New 1290 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 9: Year's Day. It's just like you definitely feel the feeling 1291 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 9: of getting new presence and the excitement of like, oh 1292 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 9: my gosh, what are the capabilities we're going to be 1293 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 9: able to add to apps this year? And then for us, 1294 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 9: it really is kind of the start of the calendar 1295 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 9: getting ready for the I was seventeen and all the 1296 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 9: new hardware and software to roll out, you know, the 1297 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 9: the year usually, And it's also incredibly motivating. It's so 1298 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 9: cool to see, like other developers, what other cool people 1299 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 9: are doing, like just swing Vision and stuff that you 1300 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 9: know you didn't even know existed. You get to talk 1301 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 9: to amazing users who typically have really good feedback. It's 1302 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 9: just honestly a big kind of uplifting moment for kind 1303 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 9: of the whole team. 1304 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: All right, Ryan, tell folks how to find your app. 1305 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: It's called Flighty. 1306 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, Flighty, So the website is flightyapp dot com and swapnil. 1307 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,479 Speaker 1: How do you find swing Vision. 1308 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 8: You can just find us at swing Tennis on our website. 1309 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 8: And then We're on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram. It's 1310 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,479 Speaker 8: just Swingvision app, all. 1311 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Right, very cool. Swapnil Sahai of swing Vision, the AI 1312 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: powered tennis app, and Ryan Jones of Flighty, the most 1313 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: beautiful flight tracking app you'll ever download. Thanks so much 1314 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: for joining me today on the show. I'm rich damiro 1315 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: More rich on Tech. Right after this, welcome back to 1316 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Damuro here hanging out with you 1317 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,959 Speaker 1: talking about technology. You can find me online at rich 1318 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: on Tech. So most of the time hanging out on Instagram. 1319 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: If I've been talking up this place. I'm doing the 1320 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: show from the Alisol Ranch. If you want to see 1321 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: some behind the scenes pictures, you can go to my 1322 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Instagram stories at rich on Tech. You can see some 1323 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 1: of the beauty up here. I'll post some more as well. 1324 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Let's see what else I'm on Facebook, same rich on Tech, Twitter, 1325 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 1: rich on Tech, and Tom wrote in on Twitter. Hey, Rich, 1326 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying the show on KFI this Saturday. Just 1327 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: wondering if you plan to use a VPN on your 1328 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: trip to the Samsung event this July. Please let us 1329 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: know as I am a traveler. Also, thank you, Tom. 1330 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't typically use a VPN. I did, so here's 1331 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: my delineation. I mean, when I went to China, it 1332 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: was essential you had to use a VPN because you 1333 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: can't really access a lot over there. Korea, I'm not sure. 1334 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if they have the same restrictions. I 1335 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: don't believe they do. But if I do need to 1336 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: use one, I will. I actually used one here when 1337 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I was on the public Wi Fi. Anytime you're accessing 1338 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: sensitive information like bank account, if you're checking your balances 1339 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: or doing any kind of banking, I would definitely recommend 1340 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: using a VPN. Or if you're on your cell phone, 1341 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: it's very easy. Just disconnect from the Wi Fi and 1342 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: just use your cellular connection. That's going to be nice 1343 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: and nice and secure. So if you're on your phone, 1344 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, you really if you have a cellular connection, 1345 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you can just use that. Just disconnect from the Wi 1346 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Fi so nobody can sniff out what you're doing or 1347 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 1: what you're entering, and look, ninety nine percent of the 1348 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: time you're going to be okay. But my point is 1349 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: if you're trying to do something that's that's secure, or 1350 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: if you're exchanging something that's very secure, banking online, all 1351 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: that stuff. You probably want to use a VPN. Now, 1352 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to VPNs, a couple of things to 1353 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: look for. Did a story with k with for Ktla 1354 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: about VPNs and we talked to an expert and this 1355 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: is what they recommended. Wire guard versus open VPN. Wire 1356 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Guard is a little bit more modern and so it's secure, 1357 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: it's fast, it's easy, and open VPN is a little 1358 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: bit older, so it's more tried and true, but it's 1359 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, the wire guard is kind of more modern. 1360 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: On the website of the VPN you choose, you want 1361 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to look for independent audit audit results, so make sure 1362 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 1: that someone's independent verifying that they do not keep logs 1363 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: or whatever else they do that they say they do. 1364 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Look for independent results on that. And then you want 1365 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that the VPN you get works on 1366 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: your various devices. So if it works on iOS, Android, 1367 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: your computer, make sure they have various apps for the 1368 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: different platforms that you use. With all that said, a 1369 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: couple of recommendations here. Molvad m U l l VA 1370 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: D was our expert's top pick. Then IVPN surf Shark 1371 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: and tunnel Bear were also top picks, and then the 1372 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: other one is VPS. So if you have Google, you 1373 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: can use Google One and they have if you pay 1374 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: for sorry, if you pay for Google One, then you 1375 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: get a VPN included for free, and they've got apps 1376 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: for Android, iOS, Windows and Mac devices. And if you 1377 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: pay for a password manager, you may also get a 1378 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: VPN included with that as well. So a lot of 1379 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: different ways to to do that and get the VPN coverage. 1380 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: But again you want to look for certain things and 1381 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: make sure that it works on all of your devices. 1382 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Good question there. All right, let's see do we have 1383 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: another question here? We got an email question. Hey, Rich, 1384 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I have a website that was set up many years 1385 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: ago when Microsoft front Page was popular. The site's pretty basic, 1386 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 1: so for many years I've been able to create, copy, 1387 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: edit new pages with front Page. It works fine with 1388 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Windows seven, but I'm pretty sure it's incombatible with Windows eleven, 1389 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: which I'd like to upgrade to. Because you suggest any 1390 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: website editing programs that would be easy to use and learn. 1391 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Jay in Houston. Jay, I think the 1392 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 1: world has switched to online website builders, so I would 1393 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: use one of those. I would use something like Wicks 1394 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: is probably the most popular that's going to let you 1395 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: get started for free. They do have some free levels 1396 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 1: of plans that you can use. I'd probably use that. 1397 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Weebley was another one, but they were actually bought by Square. 1398 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: They're more about e commerce, so you may not need 1399 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the features that they have, but they also have a 1400 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: free plan you can use with that. And square Space 1401 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: is also really nice, but you're gonna have to pay 1402 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: for that one. But it's gonna be simple and easy 1403 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: and beautiful, but Square Space is going to cost money. 1404 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: And you can also look into things like Google Sites. 1405 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: They have a free website building program, and you know, 1406 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: you can also do it yourself, or if you really 1407 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: want to get fun, you can use one of these 1408 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: new programs like chat, GPT or bard to help you 1409 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: write your program to write your HTML for your website, 1410 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: So that could be kind of fun. But otherwise, those 1411 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: are some of the options you can go for. All right, 1412 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: so I am remote, So I'm a little confused on 1413 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,680 Speaker 1: our time here? Do we have time to take a 1414 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: call or no? Is that okay? Yeah, okay, let's go 1415 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: to line three. Jay is in el segundo. Jay, you're 1416 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: on with Rich. Sorry about that, I got sidetracked here 1417 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: because this show is going so fast. Maybe it's the uh, 1418 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the country air I'm breathing. What's going on? Hi? 1419 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 3: Rich? 1420 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 10: Hey? 1421 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,919 Speaker 3: I was calling. I wanted to set up my internet 1422 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 3: out in my garage right now, and I was wondering, 1423 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 3: do you have any suggestions or things I need to 1424 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 3: consider when running cable a long distance about one hundred 1425 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 3: feet underground to get an Internet signal out out that 1426 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 3: far from where my current internet is in the house. 1427 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: Oh uh, that's that's above my pay grade. I I I. 1428 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 1: Anytime it's anytime I'm running some cable or wire, I'm 1429 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 1: usually asking a pro to do it. Have you done 1430 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 1: this before yourself? 1431 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 3: No? 1432 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 11: No, I mean I all I did when I when 1433 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 11: we uh renovated our house, you know, after the cable 1434 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 11: people ran the Internet signal into the attic, I hooked it. 1435 01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 3: All up in there. And I have of a just 1436 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 3: a cheap little router that goes into a switch that 1437 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 3: goes into a Google Wi Fi router, and then I 1438 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 3: got three of those in the house. That uh, and 1439 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 3: that'd be great. 1440 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you tried bringing one out there? It won't 1441 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: it won't span that hundred feet Huh. No, Yeah, I 1442 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't think. So, Now do you have any way to 1443 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: run this line? Is it going to be? Are you 1444 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: hanging it or outside? Are you running it underground? How 1445 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: are you doing it? What's what's the most method there? 1446 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're renovating our garage also, so we are going 1447 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 3: to be running a We'll have a trench and be 1448 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 3: able to run the line underground and you know, whatever 1449 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 3: piping that we need to and then basically have a 1450 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 3: cable coming out inside the garage. I'm just wondering, you know, 1451 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 3: does it need to be a special cable or can 1452 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 3: it just be a cap five cable you know that 1453 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 3: you get from an Amazon or something like that that's 1454 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 3: just one hundred feet long or one hundred and fifty 1455 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 3: Probably one hundred feet would do it. 1456 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would. I would consider, you know, 1457 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,560 Speaker 1: maybe a more industrial cable if they have one, like 1458 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I would look at. Have you looked at like monoprice? 1459 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yep, okay, so I would. 1460 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: I would. I would look there and see if they 1461 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: have more of a you know, maybe an outdoor cable 1462 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: or something like that that is a little bit more 1463 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: protected from the elements and your standard cable that you'd 1464 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: use inside, because this thing, even though it's going to 1465 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: be in a trench and inside a a you know, conduit, 1466 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that this is going to 1467 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: last for a long time. And so I would I 1468 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: would assume that they have that. Again, I haven't, I know, 1469 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: I have no experience with that. I've never run I've 1470 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: never run a gable underneath. I'm too scared to do it. 1471 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: But I've been wanting to build a shed, so I 1472 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: guess i'd learn. But I would call up a couple 1473 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 1: of you know, a couple of people and you know, 1474 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: on Yelp, and just see what they say, See what 1475 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,640 Speaker 1: they say about how much this would cost, and if 1476 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 1: it's that big of a deal, and if you can 1477 01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: do it yourself, or if you're just gonna have whoever 1478 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: runs this trench kind of just run. You can do 1479 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: this yourself and run that cable inside. But I would 1480 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: check out Monoprice to see if they have more of 1481 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 1: an outdoor style cable versus the standard cables that you'd 1482 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,759 Speaker 1: run inside. I would believe they would, you know, cable 1483 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,799 Speaker 1: that can withstand a little bit more of the elements. 1484 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 1: So it sounds exciting. I've always wanted one of these 1485 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: like garage setups. That's that's been my goal. I've been 1486 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 1: talking about it for like five years at my house. 1487 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: So maybe one of these days we'll swap stories about 1488 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 1: how much fun it is to have a little shed. 1489 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: All right, Janelsigudo, thanks so much for calling. 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And so Reid 1519 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: called from Riverside, California and suggested for Jay. He was 1520 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: asking about, you know, running the cable from his house 1521 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 1: underground to the garage, the Ethernet cable, and Reid says, 1522 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 1: as a construction worker, they run the cables inside PVC 1523 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: pipe for protection when burying underground. Yeah, you don't want 1524 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 1: to just put these things in the ground, that's for sure. 1525 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to just like put the dirt over 1526 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: it and you're like, okay, there it goes. And then 1527 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I looked on Monoprice for an outdoor cable, and sure 1528 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: enough they've got it. It's a it's a twenty four 1529 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 1: AWG cable, which is a higher gauge, and it is 1530 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: one hundred feet. Is going to set you back thirty 1531 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: two bucks. So that's pretty good one hundred foot monoprice cable. 1532 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 1: And then we got an email from Sandy. She was 1533 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 1: listening to the interview with the two developers and said, 1534 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: is Flighty only for Apple? Yes, it's only for Apple. 1535 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 1: At this point I have asked the developer, well they 1536 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: make something for Android, and they maybe in a couple 1537 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: of years, they said, but they're just not committing. They 1538 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: said they have too much going on with Apple right 1539 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: now in iPhone and it's just doing too well, and 1540 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 1: so they just really see a lot of momentum there. 1541 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,560 Speaker 1: I know it's such a great app. I wish I 1542 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 1: had it on both platforms. I really do. And I'm 1543 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 1: almost almost hesitant in general to recommend things that are 1544 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: not on two platforms because I do believe that cross 1545 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: platforms should be the way to go for anything. I 1546 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: try to choose cross platform platform apps for almost any 1547 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 1: app that I use because I like the idea that 1548 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: it's accessible to everyone speaking of big changes. This is 1549 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: really really incredible news and it's it's this means a lot. 1550 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to mean in the 1551 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: future for electric cars. But GM has now followed in 1552 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Ford's footsteps and they are now committing to the Tesla 1553 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: super charger network. So that is really interesting move. So 1554 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: GM is going to integrate the Tesla charger standard into 1555 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 1: their new evs starting in twenty twenty five, and then 1556 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: GM customers will be able to access twelve thousand Tesla 1557 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: superchargers in early twenty twenty four. And that means they're 1558 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: going to ditch the other charging infrastructure and I guess 1559 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: you'll still be able to charge maybe at these other places. 1560 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: But the fact that now GM and Ford are adopting 1561 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 1: Tesla supercharging technology is really telling for this industry. So 1562 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: we kind of have a you know, a war going 1563 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: on between these different standards, and the fact that Tesla 1564 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: is a private company building this supercharging network is you know, 1565 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 1: not everyone likes that idea because it's it's a lot 1566 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 1: of power for one company. And so GM says they're 1567 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: also going to integrate the Tesla supercharger network into its 1568 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 1: vehicle and mobile apps you can locate, pay for, and 1569 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 1: initiate charging at a available superchargers. It says this will 1570 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 1: complement the charging experience at their own network of Ultium 1571 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 1: Charge three sixty stations and additional charging stations GM makes 1572 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: available through its existing integrations with other charging networks. That's 1573 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 1: very obscure, right, It's like they're like, ah, well, we'll 1574 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 1: just continue to support that until we don't. Okay, But anyway, 1575 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: the momentum is there for this Tesla supercharging network. Now 1576 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,720 Speaker 1: I talked about this last week. You know, if I 1577 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: was going to get a car, it's not just limited 1578 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: to Tesla anymore because they have the best network for charging. Now, 1579 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, let me take a look what Ford has. 1580 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Let me take a look at what GM has. Let's 1581 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 1: go to line one. Rudy is in Woodland Hills, California. Rudy, 1582 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: you are on with Rich. 1583 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, sir. So just have a quick question. 1584 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to. 1585 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh, Rudy, I can't hear you. You got you gotta 1586 01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: move to a little bit of better location. Try again. Yeah. 1587 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 5: Now I'm handing Berlin, Germany on July six for ten days. 1588 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 5: You want to know what you recommend to communicate. 1589 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 3: With family back home, be a phone, be it WhatsApp. 1590 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:11,879 Speaker 2: What do you recommend? 1591 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh? Good question. So again this kind of goes into 1592 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 1: what I was talking about with cross platform stuff. If 1593 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 1: you're all on iPhone, go ahead, use I Message, use 1594 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 1: Wi Fi. You can use Wi Fi calling through your provider. 1595 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: You can turn that on in the settings. Make sure 1596 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 1: that your cellular provider supports that. They probably do. You 1597 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,720 Speaker 1: can also use what's called FaceTime audio, but again that 1598 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 1: only works if you're everyone you're communicating with has an iPhone. 1599 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people do, but I think that 1600 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 1: cross platform is a little bit easier. So WhatsApp, if 1601 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,559 Speaker 1: you can get everyone to download that, we'll do everything 1602 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: you need. You'll be able to make video calls, you'll 1603 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,719 Speaker 1: be able to chat, and that's going to do ninety 1604 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 1: nine percent of what you need. The other solution that 1605 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: I use with my family is called Telegram, and it's 1606 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 1: very similar to what's app, except it's not end to 1607 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,640 Speaker 1: end encrypted by default, so you do have to know that. 1608 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: They do have end to end encryption options, but it's 1609 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: not by default, so you can use that. But again, 1610 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 1: the whole name of the game here is you need 1611 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: to get everyone to download the same app if you're 1612 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 1: going to communicate with them. Otherwise it's just on a 1613 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: one by one basis. So if you know that your 1614 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, mother uses Telegram, use that for her. If 1615 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: you know that your sister is using an iPhone, use 1616 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: FaceTime and FaceTime audio for them, and for anyone else. 1617 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: If you need to make a phone call, you can 1618 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,839 Speaker 1: use Wi Fi calling and you know Wi Fi texting. 1619 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: So the main thing is if you want to save 1620 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: money on your cellular you can turn off your cellular 1621 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: connection and leave on the Wi Fi calling connection and 1622 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: that should take care of you know, text messages and 1623 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,679 Speaker 1: phone calls. Every carrier is just a little bit different 1624 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: when it to this stuff. But for me personally, I 1625 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: would just try to get a cross platform app before 1626 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,839 Speaker 1: you leave that everyone uses now the Silent the Silent 1627 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,640 Speaker 1: app and all of this. That's kind of like the 1628 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 1: universal app. That's kind of a secret solution that many 1629 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: people don't think about is Instagram. Almost every person that 1630 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 1: I know is on Instagram, and Instagram handles the video 1631 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: and audio and also chatting, and so why not just 1632 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 1: use Instagram if someone's there. This is the problem with 1633 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: and this goes back to what I was talking about 1634 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Apple with the whole FaceTime and you know, an I 1635 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: Message thing is that you think it would be easy, 1636 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,599 Speaker 1: You think that this would work the same way everywhere, 1637 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. In different parts of the world, people 1638 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: use different apps. So if you're in Asia, a lot 1639 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: of people use line or we Chat. If you're in Europe, 1640 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: it's all about WhatsApp. If you're here in America, it's 1641 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,559 Speaker 1: all about I Message. International is telegram, So you really 1642 01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: have to come to where your friends are and me 1643 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: them in the middle. So reach out to the most 1644 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,600 Speaker 1: important people you know that you want to contact on 1645 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 1: this trip and just kind of assess from there and 1646 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 1: see what they use. So personally, I've had a lot 1647 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:15,719 Speaker 1: of good luck with something like telegram with my family 1648 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: because it's just very simple, Like everyone knows that they 1649 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 1: can reach me on telegram and it's going to work 1650 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 1: the same no matter what country I'm in, and I've 1651 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,719 Speaker 1: used it all over the place and it has worked 1652 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: really great. The other thing is that Wi Fi calling 1653 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: is super simple to set up and it's free, So 1654 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: as long as you're on a Wi Fi network with 1655 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 1: your provider, you're good to go. But again you want 1656 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: to toggle that on before you go. And then the 1657 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,759 Speaker 1: only other thing if you want to use a SIM card, 1658 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: an international SIM, I like what Erlo has Ai r 1659 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: Alo a Alo. I've used their e sims in various 1660 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 1: countries around the world. They've worked almost perfectly everywhere. The 1661 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,920 Speaker 1: other one I'd look into is US Mobile. They have 1662 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 1: an international e SIM as well now, and theirs is 1663 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 1: more for like, you know, thirty days. You can buy 1664 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 1: it for like a little bit more time. I think 1665 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 1: they have one that lasts like a year. But you 1666 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 1: can look at US Mobile and again I put all 1667 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 1: these links on the website. You can go to rich 1668 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: on tech dot TV look for show number twenty three. 1669 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 1: But that's exciting Berlin fun. It's always a little bit 1670 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,839 Speaker 1: of nervousness when it comes to connectivity in these other countries. 1671 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,440 Speaker 1: But to be honest, the more I've done the international 1672 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 1: travel in these recent times, the better it has gotten. 1673 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 1: It is really really gotten much better than when I 1674 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,439 Speaker 1: started traveling to Japan ten years ago, and I literally 1675 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,680 Speaker 1: had zero connectivity for like two days before I was 1676 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: able to figure something out. All right, coming up next, 1677 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,200 Speaker 1: we got a lot more on the show. I'm gonna 1678 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: talk about Minecraft is now available in a new place. 1679 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 1: We've got United upgrading to four K displays in their 1680 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 1: in their airplanes, which is incredible, and you can now 1681 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 1: get grub Hub delivery in a hotel chain. Plus we're 1682 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: going to talk to some students who are inspiring young coders. 1683 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,240 Speaker 1: It's all coming up right here on rich On Tech. 1684 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology. 1685 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot of Apple because while their 1686 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 1: Worldwide Developers Conference happened this week, I was there up 1687 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: in Cooper Tino, and they announced a lot. I mean, 1688 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: they've look at you got to think about the products 1689 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 1: this company has. You've got the iPhone obviously, which you 1690 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 1: know so many people use. Then you've got things like 1691 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 1: the Mac computers. Then you've got the Apple Watch, then 1692 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 1: you've got the air pods, and of course you know 1693 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: just all the little things that they do. And so 1694 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I get it's a lot of stuff, but I want 1695 01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,680 Speaker 1: you to know what's coming soon to these gadgets that 1696 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 1: you can plan and think about it and also not 1697 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,680 Speaker 1: be surprised. So let me go over a couple more things. 1698 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Bounced Watch os ten if you can believe it, the 1699 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: Apple Watch has now been out I Apple Watch. Let 1700 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 1: me assue when this thing launched. I was there for 1701 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: the launch back in many, many years ago. Let's see 1702 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. So you're talking I should I probably should 1703 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 1: have realized that watch os ten. It's been probably ten years, 1704 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: so almost ten years of the Apple Watch, which is 1705 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: just wild because I remember the first time ever putting 1706 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,679 Speaker 1: it on my wrist and now we're up to number ten. 1707 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 1: So this is for the operating system, by the way, 1708 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,680 Speaker 1: So the operating system is going to have this thing 1709 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: called smart Stack, which is on the iPhone. So it's 1710 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of widgets that you can stack on your 1711 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 1: watch so that you can flip through important information. And 1712 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: then they've got let's see, the Peanuts comic strip is 1713 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 1: going to be on Apple Watch. It's funny. I showed 1714 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 1: my kid a video about all the new features coming soon, 1715 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 1: and this was the one thing. He was like, wait, 1716 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 1: what Snoopy on the Apple Watch. That's so cool. I 1717 01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,080 Speaker 1: was like, all right, So to each his own. And 1718 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,679 Speaker 1: then they have this new mindfulness feature, which there's already 1719 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 1: this mindfulness app, but now you can log your emotions 1720 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 1: and daily moods. So it'll say, hey, how you feel 1721 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 1: in today, and you can scroll through and say how 1722 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: you're feeling, whether you're feeling good, bad, somewhere in the middle, 1723 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 1: and then you can select what's having an impact on you. 1724 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: So if you're traveling, if you're stressed out, if it's work, 1725 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 1: if it's family, significant other, whatever it is, you'll be 1726 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 1: able to do that track all of that. Of course, 1727 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 1: it's apples, so they're going to keep everything private, but 1728 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 1: it's neat because you'll be able to see trends over time. 1729 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 1: So if you notice that every Friday you're in a 1730 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: bad mood, you can maybe figure out how to alleviate that. 1731 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: In the future. Then AirPods AirPods Pro. This is a 1732 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 1: feature that's only coming to the second generation AirPods Pro, 1733 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 1: but I thought this was pretty cool because this is 1734 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 1: a major problem on the AirPods. So if you have 1735 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: the noise cancelation on and someone starts to talk to you, 1736 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: you literally can't hear them at all, even if they're 1737 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 1: standing right in front of you. So now there's this 1738 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: new adaptive audio mode that will understand when you start 1739 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:14,559 Speaker 1: talking to someone that it'll have this conversational awareness, so 1740 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 1: it'll lower the volume of the music you're listening to 1741 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 1: or whatever you're listening to, and enhance the voices of 1742 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: the person that is trying to talk to you and 1743 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 1: reduce background noise. So that's really nice. I mean this 1744 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 1: literally happened to me on the plane. I was like, ah, 1745 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I literally can't hear you. Hold on, let 1746 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 1: me take this AirPod out and try to talk to you. 1747 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: But that'll be a nice addition. And then Apple is 1748 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,640 Speaker 1: finally admitting that these AirPods don't always automatically switch to 1749 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 1: the device you're trying to use them with all the 1750 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 1: time very easily, and so they say there is now 1751 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 1: automatic switching has gotten better. It will be significantly faster 1752 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 1: and more reliable, making it seamless to move from a 1753 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 1: favorite podcast on the iPhone to a work call on 1754 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: the Mac. And so that's gonna be a nice added 1755 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 1: feature as well, something that I've noticed. You know, I 1756 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,000 Speaker 1: don't even use the AirPods with any sort of zoom 1757 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,479 Speaker 1: calls because I never know if they're going to work 1758 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,839 Speaker 1: or not. Let's see what else do they have here? Oh, 1759 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a tvOS seventeen. So Apple TV is getting FaceTime, which 1760 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: I've been talking about forever saying how we need FaceTime 1761 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 1: on Apple TV. Of course, in typical Apple fashion, it's nice, 1762 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: it's gonna be great, but you have to use an 1763 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: iPhone as your camera or an iPad. You can't just 1764 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: plug a regular webcam into the back of your Apple TV. 1765 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,720 Speaker 1: That would make way too much sense. All I want 1766 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 1: to do is just plug a webcam into the back 1767 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,559 Speaker 1: of the Apple TV, and then when I want to 1768 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: do a FaceTime call or a video chat, I would 1769 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 1: be able to use that. No, you got to use 1770 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 1: your phone. So now you get to buy another stand 1771 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,799 Speaker 1: for your iPhone that you can put near your TV 1772 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: and so that you can put your phone as your camera. 1773 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: And I mean, it's fine, it's you already have an 1774 01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,640 Speaker 1: iPhone if you have an Apple TV. But it's just 1775 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 1: one of the things would have been a lot easier, 1776 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 1: let's see. Oh and by the way, they are going 1777 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,640 Speaker 1: to support some third party apps, so they did specifically 1778 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,800 Speaker 1: mention Zoom and some other apps as well, So it's 1779 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,720 Speaker 1: not going to be just FaceTime, it'll be some other 1780 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: video chatting apps. Oh and this was really interesting. If 1781 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 1: you have an Apple TV remote that you lost, which 1782 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 1: is like ninety nine percent of the time in my house, 1783 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 1: you can use your iPhone to locate your Siri remote. 1784 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 1: And all these things come with an asterisk, right, A 1785 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of these things you need to have the latest whatever. 1786 01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: And the Siri remote is a second generation or later, 1787 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 1: which is a pretty recent remote, so it's not going 1788 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,479 Speaker 1: to work with all the old Apple TV remotes. But 1789 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 1: this is this is a great feature because every time 1790 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,680 Speaker 1: I go to sit down to watch TV, I for 1791 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 1: some reason cannot find the remote control. And I asked 1792 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,479 Speaker 1: the kids and they say, I don't know. I don't 1793 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 1: know where that went. I said, well, you used it 1794 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: the last time. Where is it? Don't know? And finally 1795 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 1: United putting four K displays and Bluetooth on its planes. 1796 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Call screen or Kim said, how dare they My last 1797 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 1: flight had no screens. Now they're putting four K Come on. Yes, 1798 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 1: they did a deal with Panasonic to put four K 1799 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:19,280 Speaker 1: ol ed screens in their aircraft Boeing seven eighty seven 1800 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,439 Speaker 1: in their airbus A three two one xl R. Wow, 1801 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,280 Speaker 1: say that ten times fast. It's also gonna have Bluetooth, 1802 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,760 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be sharp, it's gonna be crisp, it's 1803 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna be clear you'll be able to connect your Bluetooth devices. 1804 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 1: But here's the deal. It's gonna be in three hundred 1805 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,679 Speaker 1: thousand seats, but probably not the one you're flying on, 1806 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 1: because this will be in a lot of the the 1807 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 1: international flights, and it's not coming until twenty twenty five, 1808 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 1: so four K on United, but you gotta wait a 1809 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit for that one. All right. Well, that's exciting though, 1810 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 1: because last I was on like a test flight I 1811 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,559 Speaker 1: guess where they had the Bluetooth, and it was really 1812 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: cool because you can just use your bluetoth headphones instead 1813 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 1: of plugging in. All right, coming up, we are gonna 1814 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:02,600 Speaker 1: talk to two incredible coding students. This is an inspiring 1815 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,840 Speaker 1: conversation I had up at WWDC. We'll talk to these 1816 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,760 Speaker 1: students coming up next, and then we're going to close 1817 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 1: out the show. Might have time for one more call 1818 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,360 Speaker 1: at triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight 1819 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,599 Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one rich 1820 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 1: On Tech. Rich Demiro here, rich On Tech. Welcome back 1821 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,519 Speaker 1: to the show. Coming to you from Cooper Tino. We 1822 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,680 Speaker 1: are at Apple's headquarters just on the cusp of WWDC, 1823 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 1: and I've got two great guests joining me Yemmy Agason, 1824 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,519 Speaker 1: and Rebecca Wang. Rebecca is a seventeen year old from 1825 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: San Jose. She is a self taught coder, and Yemy 1826 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,599 Speaker 1: is twenty one finishing up his computer science degree at 1827 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: Kennesaus State University. Welcome to the show, Hi Rich, Thank 1828 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 1: you so. First off, for someone who hasn't been to 1829 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 1: the Apple campus, just explain how cool it is to 1830 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:55,880 Speaker 1: visit this place. 1831 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 10: So I have lived here in my entire life, like 1832 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 10: San Jose twenty minutes from here, but I have never 1833 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,479 Speaker 10: been to Apple Park aside from the visitor center and 1834 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 10: just going in like it's two mongus, it's a one 1835 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:13,759 Speaker 10: mile radius run mile like circle, and it's just everything 1836 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 10: is just huge. 1837 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 1: I had to look up half. 1838 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:15,840 Speaker 6: Of the time. 1839 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 12: This is my second time here, first time inside though, 1840 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 12: and it was honestly just amazing just to see how 1841 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 12: green this place is a lot of nature and it's 1842 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,760 Speaker 12: just like like you said, a one mile radio. I 1843 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 12: was like, wow, like this is a really good campus. 1844 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Now, both of you have a reason for being here, Yeamy, 1845 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 1: Why don't you explain how you made it to WWDC 1846 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:38,920 Speaker 1: this year? Oh? 1847 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 12: Yes, So in middle of March they announced the WWC 1848 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,720 Speaker 12: Student challenge, award or challenge, and I essentially like, just 1849 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 12: you know, this is my final university. I was like, 1850 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 12: let me go ahead, and like, go ahead and try 1851 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,720 Speaker 12: to work it. Try to submit a challenge to one 1852 01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 12: of the greatest companies I believe. And yeah, so I 1853 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 12: built a baseball game with Swift and two months later 1854 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 12: I found out that I won the challenge there and 1855 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,479 Speaker 12: I got invited to WWC. 1856 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: And you're a big fan of baseball, yes, but also filmmaking, 1857 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: because you're writing a film now. 1858 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,719 Speaker 12: Too, Right, I'm writing a film about a pitcher who, 1859 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,640 Speaker 12: let's say he's struggling in his career and but he 1860 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,720 Speaker 12: finds a pitch that is unhittable. 1861 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 1: And that's you. I'll give right now. I don't want 1862 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 1: to give away the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. And Rebecca, 1863 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 1: you you coded some different things here, tell me what 1864 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,160 Speaker 1: you coded. You've done some different hackathons, and you are 1865 01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: all about empowering young women interested in a career in technology. 1866 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Yeah? 1867 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,719 Speaker 10: So my app is called Dare to Dream. It aims 1868 01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,799 Speaker 10: to empower the next generation of woman tech. It features 1869 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 10: ten historical and contemporary women, including at Lovelace, doctor Faife 1870 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,720 Speaker 10: Lee and Carly Klass. So back when I started with hackathons, 1871 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 10: I learned coding straight from hackathons, so it was a 1872 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 10: very untraditional experience, I would say. So I was like 1873 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,680 Speaker 10: reaching out to people on LinkedIn, learning through YouTube workshops. 1874 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 10: So even though I was at hackathons, I experienced this 1875 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,839 Speaker 10: like exclusion basically for girls like me new to coding, 1876 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 10: and we're just like, oh, like, how do we make 1877 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 10: a team of strangers and build an awesome project within 1878 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 10: twenty four hours? 1879 01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 1: And from then I have like for my. 1880 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,479 Speaker 10: Own hackathon for marginalized genders for girls, and then there 1881 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 10: to dream is actually part of my larger initiative to 1882 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 10: create a book for empowering young. 1883 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Women in tech. Okay, that's very cool, So tell me 1884 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 1: about the idea of like explain kind of the idea 1885 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 1: of coding to someone that doesn't really know what that means. 1886 01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,960 Speaker 1: We all use apps, but someone has to make these apps. 1887 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 1: And what got you interested in the behind the scenes 1888 01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: aspect of this. 1889 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, So my first experience I got into coding was 1890 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,639 Speaker 10: literally through a spam email for a hackthon, and from 1891 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,559 Speaker 10: that I didn't know what a hackathon was, but it 1892 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 10: was the middle of covid in in the winter of 1893 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 10: twenty twenty of twenty twenty, So. 1894 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:04,760 Speaker 1: It was good timing because you had a lot of 1895 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,600 Speaker 1: time on your hands, too much time, honestly. But I 1896 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 1: entered a discord server. 1897 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 10: I was way into white mode at that time, but 1898 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,280 Speaker 10: I spent twenty four hours. 1899 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 1: I stayed up. 1900 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 10: I was so tired, but I worked with a team 1901 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,440 Speaker 10: of girls on financial literacy to go to a website 1902 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,800 Speaker 10: and from there I realized, this is one of the 1903 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 10: first times I can do social change and connect it 1904 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 10: to people from all over the world because it's a 1905 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 10: website and it's accessible, and we can also translate a 1906 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,400 Speaker 10: different languages as well. 1907 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you reach so many people. That's what's incredible about it. Yemmy, 1908 01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 1: what about yourself? Yeah, so I'm interested. 1909 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 12: I see coding as pretty much communicating to a computer. 1910 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,040 Speaker 12: And what got me into is that, like I see 1911 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 12: myself as an artist, and I feel like with code, 1912 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,439 Speaker 12: I can use that as my medium. You know, the 1913 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 12: keyboard is my brush, the computer itself is my cannabis, 1914 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 12: and then you can just kind of create whatever you want. 1915 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 12: And like I got into it when I was a 1916 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,240 Speaker 12: lot younger in middle school. There was like a computer 1917 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 12: lab session and we were going to go through this 1918 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,200 Speaker 12: like tutorial about how like to alert the computer to 1919 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,479 Speaker 12: do something, and it literally just took one line of 1920 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,200 Speaker 12: code and it was just so powerful. 1921 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 1: What's your advice to younger people that want to get 1922 01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 1: involved in this because we hear a lot about coding now. 1923 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,439 Speaker 1: Of course we hear about AI taking over some of 1924 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 1: the aspects of coding. I'd be curious to get your 1925 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,719 Speaker 1: take on that. But do you still think it's something 1926 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,240 Speaker 1: that young people should get interested in? Oh? Yes, definitely. 1927 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,879 Speaker 1: How do you do it? Definitely? 1928 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,240 Speaker 12: I believe a lot of people think that coding is 1929 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 12: just like a lot of math, at a lot of 1930 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:39,519 Speaker 12: upfront knowledge. 1931 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 1: We have to just memorize things. And it's not any 1932 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:41,640 Speaker 1: of that. 1933 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,800 Speaker 12: It's a lot of just you just got to kind 1934 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 12: of honestly just do it to get really good at it. 1935 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,679 Speaker 12: And like how I get started today, ifere to start 1936 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 12: over again, it's just, honestly, just think about something you 1937 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 12: would want to create and want to build and just 1938 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 12: kind of break it down and look things up. 1939 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to look things up. 1940 01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 4: You know. 1941 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,280 Speaker 12: I definitely don't know that much, but constantly learning and. 1942 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, Rebecca, how about you, what's your advice? 1943 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 10: I would say, like coding is for everyone. Recently, I 1944 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 10: think Susan Prescott from Apple, she mentioned that there is 1945 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,679 Speaker 10: a winner who was eighty one years old. So coding 1946 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,840 Speaker 10: is really for everyone, inclusive of all ages, genders, and 1947 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 10: all backgrounds. So one advice I would have for starting 1948 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,479 Speaker 10: aspiring coders is just like be a sponge, soak up 1949 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 10: all like the opportunities, reach out to as many people 1950 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 10: as you can. 1951 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 1: Now I heard you mentioned this eighty one year old, 1952 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,800 Speaker 1: that one that was involved this year. That's incredible. We've 1953 01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 1: got people of different backgrounds. How important do you think 1954 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: it is for people of different backgrounds to come to 1955 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 1: the table when it comes to coding or apps or 1956 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. 1957 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, So, like diversity drives technology, we won't have like 1958 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 10: diverse data sets diverse like artificial intelligence that could be 1959 01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,200 Speaker 10: inclusive to all people if we did have those people 1960 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 10: at the table. So technology, just like Apple is doing 1961 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,559 Speaker 10: amazingly right now, is to make sure that every voice 1962 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,760 Speaker 10: is heard, valued and amplified. 1963 01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 1: And you've lived in a Yemi several different countries, huh, 1964 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean that brings a lot to the table. As 1965 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,360 Speaker 1: well for just knowing how people are in different places. 1966 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that helps you? It gives you 1967 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,559 Speaker 1: an edge and kind of like the knowledge you have. 1968 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 12: Yes, definitely, I would say one thing I never considered, 1969 01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,519 Speaker 12: but as as I've lived in five different countries, five 1970 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 12: different witch countries, Germany, Belgium, Nigeria, England, and I guess 1971 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,360 Speaker 12: the United States, and in three different states inside the 1972 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 12: United States. But yes, I would say that, Like, one 1973 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,000 Speaker 12: thing I love about Apple is that when you're coding 1974 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 12: is that you can localize things, and so a lot 1975 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,640 Speaker 12: of times when you write things, usually in English, you 1976 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,919 Speaker 12: can also localize them, so that way and other countries 1977 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 12: people can still use the same app while also being. 1978 01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 1: There in language. Now, we saw a pretty big announcement 1979 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:04,400 Speaker 1: this year and it involves the virtual headset, the division pro. 1980 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: So that's a whole other level of coding. I mean, 1981 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 1: app developers have an entirely new canvas to work for 1982 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 1: in building apps for this. Does it interest you at all? Oh? Definitely. 1983 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,360 Speaker 12: One thing that came to mind is great use of 1984 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,599 Speaker 12: an AR and the vision pro would be to allow 1985 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 12: people on sports, like referees to basically kind of see 1986 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,720 Speaker 12: and like have a more accurate way of like officiating. 1987 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 12: And for one of the use cases like who already 1988 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 12: go off a baseball, is that an umpire can now 1989 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 12: finally see like a see exactly where the ball went 1990 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,160 Speaker 12: through one not during a ball and strike, and they 1991 01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,400 Speaker 12: can now make it a more accurate decision. 1992 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,480 Speaker 1: So, Rebecca, any inspiration you drew from that new technology. 1993 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:52,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, So in schools like chromebooks, computers, the presence of 1994 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,559 Speaker 10: iPhones has strattically changed technology and learning into classrooms. So 1995 01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,800 Speaker 10: I'm really excited to see how VR implemented in our 1996 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,799 Speaker 10: classrooms and also our workplaces, which change that environment. 1997 01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:06,680 Speaker 1: All right, so how can we find some of the 1998 01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,680 Speaker 1: work that you guys are doing. Tell folks how to 1999 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 1: follow you and find you. 2000 01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 12: You can follow me on Instagram at Yemmy Box, y 2001 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,000 Speaker 12: E m I Box. 2002 01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 10: You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at rb 2003 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,000 Speaker 10: cc A w Ang. 2004 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,400 Speaker 1: All right, I want to say thank you to my guests, 2005 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: Yemmy Agason and Rebecca Wang, thanks so much for joining 2006 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 1: me here today. Thank you, Thank you. We'll have more 2007 01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 1: Rich on Tech coming up right after this. Welcome back 2008 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,759 Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here closing out the show, 2009 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,599 Speaker 1: I've got to say, I'm quite impressed that we pulled 2010 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 1: this off from such a remote location. That's a testament 2011 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 1: to the amazing power of technology. So we're in a 2012 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 1: place where there's not much service of any kind and 2013 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,599 Speaker 1: the fact that we can do a radio show that 2014 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: goes out around the US is pretty incredible. So that 2015 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 1: is very exciting to me because I was a little 2016 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 1: nervous that this wouldn't work, but it did. We got 2017 01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 1: a couple more things to talk about. This is happening 2018 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,599 Speaker 1: over in France. So the Senate over there just gave 2019 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 1: the green light to allow the remote activation of the 2020 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:29,880 Speaker 1: cameras or microphones on smartphones. And this is a controversial bill, 2021 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,439 Speaker 1: as you might expect, but the Senate authorized it. It 2022 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 1: will give remote triggering of cameras or telephone microphones in 2023 01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 1: certain investigations without the knowledge of the people concerned, you know, 2024 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,400 Speaker 1: the people whose phone it is. So they also can 2025 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:51,760 Speaker 1: look at their GEO GPS location without them knowing. So 2026 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,600 Speaker 1: this will be reserved for cases of terrorism, delinquency, and 2027 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,680 Speaker 1: organized crime. But as you might expect, this is a 2028 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 1: slippery slippery slope. And if we can't trust that our 2029 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,639 Speaker 1: phones are private, it's bad enough that we have these 2030 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 1: apps that are trying to get as much data as 2031 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,519 Speaker 1: possible about us. But imagine the government being able to 2032 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 1: just activate your phone or or your camera or your 2033 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,960 Speaker 1: microphone at any time. That is some scary, scary stuff. 2034 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not an expert in the US. I know 2035 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 1: they've got some things like I'm pretty sure they can 2036 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 1: listen to your phone conversations, but I don't think they 2037 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,160 Speaker 1: can access your camera or mic. That'd be really really 2038 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:37,000 Speaker 1: concerning to me. Maybe if they have a warrant. But 2039 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what people do all the time. 2040 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,080 Speaker 1: They hack into these phones, you know, if you're a 2041 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:45,920 Speaker 1: prominent journalist or government agent somewhere around the world. I mean, 2042 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: that's what all of these security updates are about. They're 2043 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: about software that gets secretly installed in your phone that 2044 01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,320 Speaker 1: does allow a third party to monitor what you're doing 2045 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,720 Speaker 1: and what you're saying and where you're going. And that's 2046 01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,720 Speaker 1: why it's so important to do the software updates on 2047 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 1: your phone, because these companies like Apple and Google are 2048 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: constantly working to make sure that this is not a 2049 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,599 Speaker 1: broad possibility. But this is at the government level in France, 2050 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 1: so that's a whole other can of worms. But if 2051 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,080 Speaker 1: you look on the iPhone and recent androids, they do 2052 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 1: tell you when your camera is being accessed. There's a 2053 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,000 Speaker 1: little indicator light when your MIC is being accessed. And 2054 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 1: if you swipe down on your control panel, which on 2055 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,679 Speaker 1: the latest iPhones is from the upper right hand corner, 2056 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,559 Speaker 1: you can see which apps have recently accessed your camera, 2057 01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 1: your MIC, or your location. And so right now I'm 2058 01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 1: seeing that Weather recently accessed my location. So an Android 2059 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,920 Speaker 1: does the same thing. You can even go you can 2060 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,519 Speaker 1: even go into your settings and look under privacy and 2061 01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,640 Speaker 1: see all of the apps and exactly what they're accessing. 2062 01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,479 Speaker 1: And in general, I always recommend that you never give 2063 01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 1: an app more access than it needs. New way, so 2064 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 1: don't don't you know the old thing was the flashlight 2065 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 1: app that people wouldload and they would give every permission possible, 2066 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,600 Speaker 1: Like why does a flashlight app need access to your GPS? 2067 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't. They were just collecting a whole bunch of 2068 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: data so they could sell information and sell ads across 2069 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:18,719 Speaker 1: their platforms against you. So kind of scary. What's happening 2070 01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,479 Speaker 1: over there in France, Even if it's for public safety, 2071 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 1: it's just still like whoo. When you go down that line. 2072 01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. Minecraft now on the Chromebook. We talked 2073 01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 1: about this a couple months back, how they were testing it. 2074 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,719 Speaker 1: Now it's widely available. You can now purchase Minecraft Bedrock 2075 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,400 Speaker 1: Edition from Google Play on the Chromebook, which gives you 2076 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 1: access to Minecraft Marketplace and you can play on realms. 2077 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,120 Speaker 1: Your kids probably know what that is. It's available on 2078 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:50,760 Speaker 1: compatible chromebooks made in the last three years, so all 2079 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,600 Speaker 1: chromebooks in the last three years apparently will work with this. 2080 01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 1: And then there's another list of other compatible chromebooks, so 2081 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,080 Speaker 1: it's not just the last three years. They do have 2082 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,760 Speaker 1: recommended device. Some are going to work better than others. 2083 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,559 Speaker 1: Chromebooks are notoriously underpowered most of the time, so you know, 2084 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:10,280 Speaker 1: don't expect amazing things from some of the older chromebooks. 2085 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 1: You can also do cross play on these things, so 2086 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 1: you can play against friends that are on any other 2087 01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:21,440 Speaker 1: sort of Chrome Minecraft device, Android, Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, computers. 2088 01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:27,000 Speaker 1: And then here's the deal. So if you buy if 2089 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,639 Speaker 1: you buy Minecraft on chromebook, you can download it for 2090 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 1: free on your Android device if they're both on the 2091 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,839 Speaker 1: same account. So again, if you buy it on chromebook, 2092 01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,120 Speaker 1: you can get it for free on your Android. Now 2093 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,080 Speaker 1: the other way, if you have it already, if you 2094 01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,599 Speaker 1: paid for it on Android and you want to on Chromebook, 2095 01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,360 Speaker 1: you'll get it for a discounted price. So it kind 2096 01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 1: of like it doesn't go both ways, but it's like, 2097 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,679 Speaker 1: if you have it on Chromebook, you'll get it free 2098 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,040 Speaker 1: on Android. If you have it on Android, you could 2099 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:55,920 Speaker 1: pay just a little bit more to get it on 2100 01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:03,080 Speaker 1: the Chromebook. Grub Huh and Homewood Suites are teaming up. 2101 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 1: So I was just talking about this with a friend 2102 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,479 Speaker 1: the other day. How I thought it was so odd. 2103 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,440 Speaker 1: I had this producer we were up in San Francisco 2104 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 1: and after a long day, you know, what do you do? 2105 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,559 Speaker 1: You go out with the team to like a dinner, right, 2106 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,559 Speaker 1: And this producer was like, now I'm just gonna order 2107 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,000 Speaker 1: Postmates to my room. I said, what, how do you 2108 01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,760 Speaker 1: I've never even thought about doing that. Yeah, I do 2109 01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,000 Speaker 1: it all the time, no problem. So I of course, 2110 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,639 Speaker 1: now fast forward, you know, five years later, just did 2111 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 1: this the other day and people do it all the time, 2112 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,360 Speaker 1: but it was so farig to me back then. I 2113 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,479 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what don't you go out for something? 2114 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,360 Speaker 1: And so sure enough, now grubhub is teaming up with 2115 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,519 Speaker 1: Homewood Suites. So what they're doing is they're pretty much 2116 01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,040 Speaker 1: just making yes, you can always order Grubhub inside of 2117 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:49,760 Speaker 1: any hotel or Postmates or you know, Uber Eats or 2118 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,200 Speaker 1: whatever door Dash, but they're making it easier to sort 2119 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:57,599 Speaker 1: of get your hotel's location on the app and also 2120 01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,640 Speaker 1: see which things are recommended. So this will happen at 2121 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,600 Speaker 1: five hundred Homewood Suite locations across the country. You'll be 2122 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,640 Speaker 1: able to order from local restaurants and convenience stores via geolocation, 2123 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,759 Speaker 1: so it will know when you're inside this specific hotel 2124 01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,640 Speaker 1: and it will give you the places that it recommends. 2125 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,160 Speaker 1: But there's also a QR code in the hotel, probably 2126 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 1: in your room you can scan to make it a 2127 01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,960 Speaker 1: lot easier, so it already populates with like which hotel 2128 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,200 Speaker 1: you're in your address. All you do do is pop 2129 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,920 Speaker 1: in your room and that'll be really nice and simple. 2130 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,680 Speaker 1: And they're also going to have the hotel location and 2131 01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:35,559 Speaker 1: courier drop off instructions automatically populate at checkout. So people 2132 01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 1: who tried this in the pilot program they loved it 2133 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,080 Speaker 1: because it was much easier. So I just did this 2134 01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,880 Speaker 1: the other day I've got this place up in Cooper 2135 01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,040 Speaker 1: Tino that I love to order from. It's random. It's 2136 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 1: called a good salad, but it's just a really good 2137 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,479 Speaker 1: chicken caesar salad that I like to get when I 2138 01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,439 Speaker 1: cover Apple events. I just get it delivered to my 2139 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,200 Speaker 1: hotel room, and it's every time, it's really good. But 2140 01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, it takes some times. You get to put 2141 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,960 Speaker 1: in your hotel. You got to make sure it's the 2142 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 1: right hotel, and sometimes you don't know. You're like, wait, 2143 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,600 Speaker 1: is this the address? Is it the right hotel? So 2144 01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,760 Speaker 1: it just makes it a lot easier when they sort 2145 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,160 Speaker 1: of build this stuff together and make it a lot 2146 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:13,320 Speaker 1: simpler to access. All right. Uh finally, oh gosh, do 2147 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,200 Speaker 1: I really want to end on a sad note? Aren't 2148 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,400 Speaker 1: you supposed to end on a happy note? No, I'm 2149 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not even gonna read that one. I 2150 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,080 Speaker 1: don't want to read that one because it's too it's 2151 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,920 Speaker 1: too sad. So you know what, that's it. We'll just 2152 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:26,800 Speaker 1: end on that. We'll end on the grubhub in my 2153 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,519 Speaker 1: good memories of this salad, because that's uh, that's I 2154 01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 1: don't want to end on a sad story. Let's see 2155 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,439 Speaker 1: do I have one more question I can do? Oh, 2156 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,240 Speaker 1: Jennifer says, hey, Rich, the voice commands of my car 2157 01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,960 Speaker 1: play through Siri have changed, so can I change them 2158 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:43,960 Speaker 1: to a different voice? Yes, you can change Siri to 2159 01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,759 Speaker 1: a different voice. This is much happier. Go into settings, 2160 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: Syrian Voice, Siri Voice, a Syrian Search, and then Siri Voice. 2161 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,160 Speaker 1: You have five variety, a bunch of different varieties to 2162 01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,240 Speaker 1: choose from American, Australian, British, Indian, Irish, South African, and 2163 01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,040 Speaker 1: then you have different types of voice inside there. So 2164 01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,679 Speaker 1: again go into settings Siri and Search and Siri Voice. 2165 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,120 Speaker 1: You can change your voice. All right, that's gonna do 2166 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 1: it for this episode of the show, number twenty three 2167 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,560 Speaker 1: in the can check out the show notes at richontech 2168 01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 1: dot tv. Send your feedback to hello at richon tech 2169 01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,120 Speaker 1: dot tv. I might read it on our next show 2170 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:22,000 Speaker 1: next week. I'm gonna be taste testing dairy cheese that 2171 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,240 Speaker 1: doesn't require a cow to make. Yes, it's too It's 2172 01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 1: not like the regular vegan cheese out there. They literally 2173 01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,360 Speaker 1: figured out how to make cheese without a cow. My 2174 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,320 Speaker 1: name is Rich Dmiro. Thanks so much for listening. There 2175 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,760 Speaker 1: are so many ways you can spend your time. I 2176 01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,000 Speaker 1: do appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks 2177 01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: to everyone who makes this show possible, Adam Kim, Bill Bobo, 2178 01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,920 Speaker 1: and special thanks to the Alisoul ranch here in Solving, 2179 01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 1: California for helping me do this show remotely. Today. You 2180 01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,439 Speaker 1: can find me on social media. I am at rich 2181 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,479 Speaker 1: on tech website again rich on tech dot tv. I 2182 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,679 Speaker 1: can't believe we pulled this off in the middle of nowhere. 2183 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,720 Speaker 1: Love you so regular signals, love your Wi Fi. I'm 2184 01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,720 Speaker 1: Rich Tomiro. I'll talk to you real soon. 2185 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 11: M