Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central. Hello, and welcome to The
Speaker 1: Daily Show Ears Edition. I'm Josh Johnson, correspond for the
Speaker 1: Daily Show. I'm here with Kat Radley and David Angelo,
Speaker 1: writers for the Daily Show. We're also all Stamp comedians.
Speaker 1: So today we're gonna be talking about writing for the
Speaker 1: Daily Show as stand up comics and let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having us, Josh, really great to be here,
Speaker 2: and thanks everyone at home for listening. And those of
Speaker 2: you in the car eyes on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, people in New York. A car is.
Speaker 1: A car is what your uber is for the person
Speaker 1: who owns it.
Speaker 3: The thing you sit in the back of.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I guess starting off, we all started when
Speaker 1: Trevor was here. So what do you think the biggest
Speaker 1: adjustment was for each of us having done stand up
Speaker 1: to a late night show like this.
Speaker 4: Well, for me, it was my first writer's room ever.
Speaker 4: Before that, I was teaching, tutoring, driving, lyft uber.
Speaker 3: All that random stuff.
Speaker 4: I was just like pumped to be in a writer's
Speaker 4: room and then talking to people like you had been
Speaker 4: in other writer's room. You guys were like, this one's great.
Speaker 4: So for me, I was excited to have my job
Speaker 4: be writing jokes all day, whereas before with you know,
Speaker 4: when you're working part time jobs and doing stand up
Speaker 4: or full time jobs and doing stand up, you're trying
Speaker 4: to like squeeze in the joke writing whenever you can.
Speaker 4: And it just felt pretty awesome, just be like I
Speaker 4: get to write jokes all day, Like that's what I
Speaker 4: am supposed to do.
Speaker 1: This is it?
Speaker 3: So it was I was pumped.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: What about you, David, Well, you know, I came from
Speaker 2: some other shows. We both worked at Jimmy Fallon at
Speaker 2: different times. Yeah, a lot of the other shows that
Speaker 2: I worked at, they would get canceled before they started airing,
Speaker 2: which you know, like if you get an E talkshown,
Speaker 2: do you remember the Channel E exclamation point?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They would keep bringing me in be like we got
Speaker 2: a new talk show, like okay, what is it? This
Speaker 2: was like it's gonna be this, and they'll talk about
Speaker 2: the Kardashians or whatever, and then you'd be there for
Speaker 2: three weeks and then before the first episode they'd be like, Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: you did great work. We're canceling this. We're gonna air
Speaker 2: those three episodes you work on and then it was
Speaker 2: just kind of that kind of cycle. Yeah, so this
Speaker 2: is one of the shows where they don't go away
Speaker 2: like no one here is like the show's gonna get canceled,
Speaker 2: whereas every other talk show you're just like, this is
Speaker 2: absolutely getting canceled. Yeah one, yeah, possibly, Yeah, there's no
Speaker 2: way this will last more than six weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when I started, I got hired by Trevor,
Speaker 1: and coming from stand up, I hoped it would be
Speaker 1: a little bit similar because I knew du'll say already,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there was one other person I
Speaker 1: knew before I got here, and they were kind of
Speaker 1: talking about how yeah, you just sort of pitched to
Speaker 1: the room and everything and like pitch everything out loud
Speaker 1: and there'll be a time to just write later, but
Speaker 1: you mostly pitch in the room, which I remember I
Speaker 1: was terrified by because I was like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pitch a joke. It's gonna bomb, and then everyone will
Speaker 1: be like, all right, we gave the new guy a chance.
Speaker 4: I do remember, because it's for people don't know that,
Speaker 4: you know, we have a big morning meeting first thing
Speaker 4: in the morning, and we're encouraged to just you know,
Speaker 4: we watched clips of the news, and we're supposed to
Speaker 4: kind of pitch any idea or joke we have right
Speaker 4: there in the room to get things flowing figure out
Speaker 4: what the show might be. And I remember I was
Speaker 4: also scared my first day, Josh, because I just had
Speaker 4: no idea what to expect. And Jubin Peng our head
Speaker 4: writer at the time, now one of the producers. I
Speaker 4: remember he, you know, he was one who like met me,
Speaker 4: you know, at the beginning of the day and gave
Speaker 4: me a tour of the building and stuff before the
Speaker 4: workday started, and he told me something that I like
Speaker 4: remember to this day and I tell other new writers
Speaker 4: in case they don't hear it. But he was like,
Speaker 4: pitch jokes in the room, be vocal. Trevor loves just
Speaker 4: hearing people's ideas, and he's like, don't be afraid to bomb.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 4: We'd rather you pitch and say something and bomb then
Speaker 4: sit there quietly. And I believed he meant it, so
Speaker 4: I took it, and I but it helped because I,
Speaker 4: you know, I pitch, I get some good laughs. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you pitch and it goes nowhere. But it helped me
Speaker 4: because I still believe it to this day as you've
Speaker 4: been so hopefully you still mean it. But it was
Speaker 4: good for me because I was like, Okay, good, I
Speaker 4: won't be afraid, and I really kind of forced myself
Speaker 4: to like not be scared and just if I had
Speaker 4: an idea to throw it out there or joke to
Speaker 4: throw it out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have no memories in my I
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't remember that at all. I need
Speaker 2: to go get blood tests after this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what he did. Yeah. No, I
Speaker 1: remember my first laugh in the room, and it was
Speaker 1: because there was an election happening in a country that
Speaker 1: has like elections, right, that doesn't really have and so
Speaker 1: the police ran into the polling station and just started
Speaker 1: beating everybody. And I was like, they did hit a
Speaker 1: lot of people without asking who they were voting for.
Speaker 1: They could have been voting the right way, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I remember from like Trevor and
Speaker 1: everyone laughing at that. I was like, oh, okay, this
Speaker 1: is kind of like when you are just riffing with
Speaker 1: your friends in the green room, that same vein where
Speaker 1: nothing's going to make people be like you should leave,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, one's going to like boo you if you
Speaker 4: tell a bad joke too, And sometimes your joke will
Speaker 4: lead to someone else thinking of the better joke. So
Speaker 4: it's all about the riffing or what terrible thing you
Speaker 4: might say will inspire the good thing and someone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I just never cared if a joke
Speaker 2: didn't do well, as you will hear throughout the length
Speaker 2: of this episode people at home. For some reason, that's
Speaker 2: not my fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Maybe it should be.
Speaker 1: Kat, you had a joke yesterday that killed me, oh
Speaker 1: in the morning when when we were going over that
Speaker 1: story of theos.
Speaker 3: It might be on the show tonight, but we could
Speaker 3: I mean no.
Speaker 1: No, I mean we don't. We don't have to say
Speaker 1: it now, and I didn't want to do it poorly
Speaker 1: in front of you, but I just wanted to shout
Speaker 1: out that that was very I thought about it the rest.
Speaker 3: Of the time. Oh.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Yeah, we can tell them that the show will
Speaker 4: have airred by now, and you guys will know if
Speaker 4: we got cut ed up, like people getting arrested into
Speaker 4: and Kikos for having bullets in their luggage that they
Speaker 4: didn't know, which is illegal. Turks and Caicos and then
Speaker 4: you get twelve years and like America's trying to get
Speaker 4: these Americans out and not serving twelve years of prison
Speaker 4: in Turks and Caicos. The joke was just something like
Speaker 4: I can imagine trying to call to get the prisoners
Speaker 4: out and you're like, hey, Turks, are you gonna really
Speaker 4: release the prisoners? No?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me talk to Keikos.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And if this were up to me, I'd
Speaker 2: had those Americans back in a second.
Speaker 1: It just takes one simple phone call.
Speaker 3: Hey Turks, Hey, can you release the prisoners please?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: All right, let me talk to Kekos. And it's funny
Speaker 3: you say that because it was a joke.
Speaker 4: You know, like we'll watch a story and then move on,
Speaker 4: and sometimes you'll think of a joke right after we've
Speaker 4: moved on. You're like, I can't go back and dig
Speaker 4: up this story that we've already moved on from. But
Speaker 4: it was sometimes if you have a joke, you're like
Speaker 4: I want to though, So it did. It was the
Speaker 4: very end of the meeting. They were about to like
Speaker 4: dismiss it, but I was just like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 4: sh have this one more joke. In there and it
Speaker 4: had to do well. Luckily it did do it really
Speaker 4: well and get a big laughing room. Otherwise I would
Speaker 4: have been like, well, I'm glad I prolonged this meeting
Speaker 4: for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It Also there's a nice little like boom
Speaker 1: in the room and you can tell everyone is laughing
Speaker 1: at your joke when you when you pitch it. And
Speaker 1: every once in a while I'll have the like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like like the breath, and then
Speaker 1: there's a difference between like the breath and like the
Speaker 1: boom of like everyone at once being like that is funny.
Speaker 3: I like that. I think we all three have good
Speaker 3: hit rates.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of us will pitch a joke in
Speaker 4: the morning meeting that gets a big laugh.
Speaker 1: Or I have a good hit rate at calling out
Speaker 1: my own bad jokes.
Speaker 3: Which also is great for a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I'll pitch something I know it'll say anything.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, y'all are right, that was y'all are right.
Speaker 4: I think that's where stand up comes in, because that
Speaker 4: works in stand up shows too.
Speaker 3: If you do something new or something that bombs in
Speaker 3: a stand.
Speaker 4: Up show, yeah, you just be like, all right, well
Speaker 4: fuck me. I guess or something like that that will
Speaker 4: usually get a laugh. It's kind of a similar skill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, okay, So with the differences between stand
Speaker 1: up and working on the show, do you feel like
Speaker 1: because I know I don't almost I almost don't care
Speaker 1: as much about when a new joke bombs in stand
Speaker 1: up because I know I'll have like an infinite amount
Speaker 1: of times to make the joke better and work on it.
Speaker 1: But when a joke that I really believe bombs in
Speaker 1: the room, I get genuinely upset with myself. I'm like,
Speaker 1: cause there's no there's no going back and rewarding it
Speaker 1: for new people. We all work together all the time.
Speaker 3: That was your shot, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sometimes you've burned the joke by now pitching
Speaker 1: it horribly because.
Speaker 4: You don't always craft it perfectly in your head the
Speaker 4: first time. You're usually sitting in the meeting kind of
Speaker 4: thinking it might come to you right away, or sometimes
Speaker 4: you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I have a joke here, but I'm the
Speaker 3: wording rate, so I can't say it out loud yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Really, it's taken a risk and you got a time
Speaker 3: it Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then that's the other thing of like have
Speaker 1: we moved on, or is the is it winding down?
Speaker 1: Or sometimes someone will not have the joke I have,
Speaker 1: but I'll be just similar enough that I'm kind of
Speaker 1: making the same joke, and I'm like, it's almost better
Speaker 1: to just let them hang their hat on that one,
Speaker 1: and then I can pitch mine when we write, because
Speaker 1: for anyone listening, basically the way the day works out
Speaker 1: is that we all have the morning meeting. At the
Speaker 1: morning meeting, we listen and watch different clips of news
Speaker 1: that we might cover, and that's what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: where we're pitching jokes off of all of those news
Speaker 1: clips in like real time too, because a lot of
Speaker 1: times we haven't seen the thing beforehand. And so then
Speaker 1: after that we usually go and we we gang out,
Speaker 1: which is yeah, so ganging is basically all of us
Speaker 1: working on the same set of jokes or the same
Speaker 1: topic at the same time. So they just call it
Speaker 1: ganging out an idea or ganging jokes. And throughout the
Speaker 1: script we get told, hey, we need a joke for this,
Speaker 1: we need a joke for this. Does anybody have a
Speaker 1: take for this? And then we are writing that stuff
Speaker 1: all day. Then we go to rehearsal then after rehearsal,
Speaker 1: sometimes there is a rewrite, and within rewrite, we'll basically
Speaker 1: do the process over again, keeping all the things from
Speaker 1: rehearsal that worked and replacing things that we feel like
Speaker 1: we can beat. And then you see the show, which
Speaker 1: is the end product of all that work, minus whatever
Speaker 1: time the network says, we don't have to do these things.
Speaker 1: And I guess for me, when you look at that
Speaker 1: whole process with stand up, it's like, because it's like
Speaker 1: a new group of people every time that don't know
Speaker 1: how you worded it before you do get a clean slate,
Speaker 1: And I feel like, not only is there no clean
Speaker 1: slate within the day, but it just becomes a harder
Speaker 1: battle to fight. If you really believe in a joke
Speaker 1: and you've botched it once or even twice.
Speaker 2: What is this joke? Tell us the joke that didn't work?
Speaker 1: Uh, it's so many let's.
Speaker 2: Work shopping now. You know it's funny because what you're
Speaker 2: saying it's true. But it's also like we have a
Speaker 2: new show every single day, and usually the topics are
Speaker 2: so disposable, like I mean, yeah, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: like you can be like, oh, well, that didn't work.
Speaker 2: Here at the show, but I'll go do it in
Speaker 2: my like like your Turks and Kekos. It's very hard
Speaker 2: to go out on the road. And did you guys
Speaker 2: hear about this story five months ago with a guy
Speaker 2: you had bullets and you know you have to explain
Speaker 2: like the whole thing your time up. Yeah, so, like
Speaker 2: it only would work at the show, but then if
Speaker 2: it doesn't work, then it's like, okay, well tomorrow there'll
Speaker 2: be like a whole new set of stories. It's not
Speaker 2: like that traumatic, maybe, I guess to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well I wouldn't say traumatic. It's
Speaker 1: more just like the frustration.
Speaker 4: Of like, yeah, I know a lot of therapy for it, right, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, can't you rework it if it's a premise and
Speaker 2: then you just be like, you know, I'll wait for
Speaker 2: another story to come up. Because usually one thing you
Speaker 2: notice when you work in like a topical talk show
Speaker 2: is like the news just repeats itself. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: you know, history is it's like there's only like five
Speaker 2: hundred events that ever happen, and then they keep happening
Speaker 2: over and over again. Yeah, like we'll be some other
Speaker 2: person who gets arrested in the Caribbean for something funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's more I had
Speaker 1: a sort of paranoia when I first started, of like, oh,
Speaker 1: I really want to like have a good showing of
Speaker 1: a strong perspective, right, because in my mind, if I
Speaker 1: have enough perspective, then it's like, oh, Okay, this guy's
Speaker 1: pretty good even if he doesn't have the best hit,
Speaker 1: right or whatever. And so I'm more speaking to that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, which is very old, like you know
Speaker 1: that's been I think the change for me now is
Speaker 1: that I do miss writing because I don't know. I
Speaker 1: also like needed to be in the writer's wing when
Speaker 1: I was writing. Now I do feel like I'm bothering y'all.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people, people need to understand Josh was a writer.
Speaker 2: H So you didn't see him for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now he's on TV. Yeah, he's in a different
Speaker 2: You're in a higher cast system now, I mean that's
Speaker 2: the way to say. So, like Josh Johnson's coming by,
Speaker 2: you know, we all get a little more. You know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of a bigger deal.
Speaker 4: He gave us permission to make eye contact during this
Speaker 4: highest I so.
Speaker 2: Now you know your higher level, higher status. But you
Speaker 2: don't write anymore on the show unless it's for you.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, so I'm still will pitch for
Speaker 1: myself and stuff, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, we used to just write for Trevor, and then
Speaker 1: there was a whole year where we wrote for a
Speaker 1: bunch of guest hosts. And now it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a rotation where we have John on Mondays and
Speaker 1: then we have whichever of the Correspondence on the rest
Speaker 1: of the days of that week. I don't know about y'all,
Speaker 1: but because I started writing for Trevor and then switched
Speaker 1: over to that guest host year, I actually felt pretty
Speaker 1: prepared to write for the correspondence in those alternating weeks.
Speaker 1: But I'm interested in what y'all felt while it was happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what's unique about our show too is
Speaker 4: we were always writing for Trevor, but we always had
Speaker 4: correspondents right where we would do chats or segments, even
Speaker 4: like you know, Lewis Black coming in to do a
Speaker 4: whole segment in Act two sometimes. So I think we
Speaker 4: all had the skill of being able to switch from
Speaker 4: one voice to another because we could write for correspondence
Speaker 4: on any given day in addition to writing for Trevor
Speaker 4: and so I feel like that really served us well
Speaker 4: in the guest hosting era because we all had fine
Speaker 4: tuned those skills of writing for different voices. And not
Speaker 4: to toot our own horn, but I think a lot
Speaker 4: of the guest hosts even commented, like, Wow, you guys
Speaker 4: are really good at writing for me. You gave me
Speaker 4: so many good jokes that I love. They're for me,
Speaker 4: they're in my voice, and we did it in just
Speaker 4: that four day period they were hosting. So I think
Speaker 4: that's something that we are particularly good at and that
Speaker 4: I really love doing too. Not that I don't love
Speaker 4: writing for one host, but it is kind of fun
Speaker 4: to challenge yourself stimulates your joke writing brain a little
Speaker 4: bit more to adapt the types of jokes you can
Speaker 4: and can't tell for different people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that, like, I'm not like
Speaker 2: a big voice shifter person. I feel like there's that
Speaker 2: usually is to me in like a setup or just
Speaker 2: the wording of whatever the joke is. But I feel
Speaker 2: like you could package any joke into anyone's voice kind
Speaker 2: of at least that's what I'm doing. Maybe I'm bad
Speaker 2: at it now, actually doing something different.
Speaker 1: No, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just kind of shoehorn it, like I kind
Speaker 2: of know, like, oh, well Ronnie would do he'd be
Speaker 2: more like upset or something. You know, you have a
Speaker 2: concept of a joke, you can kind of just like
Speaker 2: finesse it and like, you know whatever, it's not. To me,
Speaker 2: that's not that hard.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've described it perfectly to me. Voice.
Speaker 1: It's so rare for a comic or really any performer
Speaker 1: to have a distinct voice. And I feel like in
Speaker 1: all of entertainment that I've ever watched, of all of
Speaker 1: stand up, there's only a few people that I'm like,
Speaker 1: this on paper I could recognize as this person's joke.
Speaker 1: I think that most people their voice quote unquote is
Speaker 1: the funniest joke in the way they want to say it.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people think of voice
Speaker 1: as only this person could tell this joke, which I
Speaker 1: think is only true of a few people ever.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it might be like if you had someone
Speaker 2: like if Rodney Dangerfield was hosting, then I'd have to
Speaker 2: sit down and be like, Okay, I have to construct
Speaker 2: like these types of jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these types of one liners.
Speaker 2: Right, but when you're doing like here's a show about
Speaker 2: current events coming out of clips, it's like that's what
Speaker 2: the jokes are going to be, and then the voice
Speaker 2: is just sort of like how would this person say it?
Speaker 2: But that's kind of the less hard part than the joke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to a point where it's like I don't even really
Speaker 2: think about it that much.
Speaker 3: I think I might just do it naturally.
Speaker 4: If I know who I'm writing for, I'm only really
Speaker 4: thinking of jokes. I think I imagine them telling mm hmm,
Speaker 4: and then maybe if I had the same story with
Speaker 4: a different host, I'm curious when I come up with
Speaker 4: the same joke but in a different way. Because for me,
Speaker 4: I do think of voice a lot, Like I remember
Speaker 4: when I was like doing late night packets submitting for stuff,
Speaker 4: and when I submit for the Daily Show, I just
Speaker 4: like kind of binge Trevor's stand up specials and binge
Speaker 4: some episodes at the Daily Show. So it's almost like
Speaker 4: when you get like a song in your head. I
Speaker 4: would kind of just have Trevor's voice and rhythm in
Speaker 4: my head as I was going in to write the packet.
Speaker 4: So I do think of it a lot as like
Speaker 4: voice and rhythm. At least it helps me to kind
Speaker 4: of be thinking like that person as I'm trying to
Speaker 4: write for them, gotcha, But maybe it probably is like
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we're writing about turks and caicos for
Speaker 4: this person, but it could be any person who knows
Speaker 4: it might end up being the same joke.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: welcome back. So, Kat, do you think that as you've
Speaker 1: settled in, because we've all been at the show for
Speaker 1: years now, do you think that there's anything that you've
Speaker 1: learned at the show that you brought back to stand up?
Speaker 4: I think just knowing that you can write a lot
Speaker 4: of good jokes amount of time, because I think before
Speaker 4: I would imagine we probably spent more time really being like,
Speaker 4: oh what is this bit?
Speaker 3: How do I write it?
Speaker 4: And now I have the confidence to know, like, oh,
Speaker 4: I want to do a joke about that thing that
Speaker 4: happened to me on Saturday. I can sit down treat
Speaker 4: it like an assignment that we would have for work,
Speaker 4: and I can actually like come up with here's the joke,
Speaker 4: here's the punchline. And I think it's given me that
Speaker 4: confidence in my stand up and my joke writing ability
Speaker 4: to be able to produce that content more quickly and
Speaker 4: kind of being less precious about it, knowing that it's
Speaker 4: a skill that I've been honing over the past seven years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me, I really did when I
Speaker 1: start working here, and really it was being around you
Speaker 1: all as well, like being around other stand ups who
Speaker 1: were writing for the show, who were kind of in
Speaker 1: a way going through the same thing that I was.
Speaker 1: I feel like what it made me really good at
Speaker 1: is knowing what to sort of chuck and what to keep,
Speaker 1: like being a little bit more ruthless with what's really
Speaker 1: worth it. And then also just that clarity of like,
Speaker 1: am I even making sense in this joke? Because if
Speaker 1: I'm not, then no amount of saving myself on stage
Speaker 1: is going to make up for the fact that the
Speaker 1: joke actually isn't that funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a general work ethic too, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I mean being in the show and uh where
Speaker 2: it's during the workday right now, I think it's rehearsals happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know, we've been hanging out. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on actually at the show right now.
Speaker 3: Our phones are blowing up right now, They're like, we
Speaker 3: need you on what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how about you? How about
Speaker 2: going from to corresponding? Now you're on camera. Now you're
Speaker 2: an on camera TV person, but you still have to
Speaker 2: go do you're still doing club stuff? What's the difference there?
Speaker 1: I think for me, I definitely now understand why some
Speaker 1: stuff that I wrote for other people got cut, because
Speaker 1: now that I have to say everything, I am like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what it sounds like. What I say it
Speaker 1: like like because the joke just writing is funny in
Speaker 1: my head and have a good reaction because I am
Speaker 1: doing it in their in their sort of quote unquote voice,
Speaker 1: And so I think all of this stuff is gonna
Speaker 1: line up. But there's still a person that has to
Speaker 1: say this thing and has to deal with people coming
Speaker 1: for them after.
Speaker 3: They make the Now you get blamed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's like.
Speaker 2: Right, that runner about how Taylor Swift's a fraud, that's
Speaker 2: you cut that. That was never you cut that you
Speaker 2: said because you said I don't believe that. You said
Speaker 2: I don't believe that, and I thought that was a
Speaker 2: good choice you made.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: It is fun when you're writing for other people, you
Speaker 4: write a joke in your head, You're like, I would
Speaker 4: never tell this joke in my stand up, but here
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I do think that's that's somewhat of
Speaker 1: a I know for angles as well. Sometimes there's a
Speaker 1: there's a perspective that I have that doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: it'll ring true coming from me. But if if I
Speaker 1: were to write it for h DESI or for Duel,
Speaker 1: say back in the day, it made a little bit
Speaker 1: more sense, and I think would have been better received
Speaker 1: from them, you know what I mean. And so for me,
Speaker 1: I think that that's the biggest difference is now having
Speaker 1: to say every joke that I think of and that
Speaker 1: is written for me with other writers. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing is I really thought that my days would
Speaker 1: be a little bit lighter going from writing to correspondent,
Speaker 1: and they're busier now because I think that I in
Speaker 1: a weird way, I get pulled in a couple different
Speaker 1: directions that I didn't have when I was writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Kat, you are a new man, which congratulations. I've seen
Speaker 1: pictures and they are adorable.
Speaker 4: Thank you, and just want to know he said they because
Speaker 4: I had fucking twins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wow, wow the adjustment both like you
Speaker 1: coming back after your leave and you doing stand up again,
Speaker 1: do you feel like because that's such a world shifting
Speaker 1: thing of what's of what's happened now like it. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm always blown away when people that I know become parents,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know you before and after one
Speaker 1: of the biggest things. And you don't usually get that
Speaker 1: with people. You usually meet them and they're sort of
Speaker 1: who they are, you know, the whole time.
Speaker 3: And so do I seem different?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that you seem different, but there is,
Speaker 1: like in Earnest, there really is, like it's a slightly
Speaker 1: different presence that you have, and there's a there is
Speaker 1: a light around, Like everything that you.
Speaker 4: Do smell worse now, Josh, you can say it a
Speaker 4: shower less and I smell worse.
Speaker 1: No, you don't know, you don't. I'm telling you. I
Speaker 1: think that it's been amazing for you. And I always
Speaker 1: thought you were hilarious and funny before, but I think
Speaker 1: that also there's something like you're very happy, least at
Speaker 1: least that I consider job pretending there and that's.
Speaker 2: Bad for comedy.
Speaker 1: It is that's bad for comedy. So the fact that
Speaker 1: your jokes are still so funny is a testament.
Speaker 4: Well, see, they have to be They had to be
Speaker 4: funny because now I got more mouths to feed.
Speaker 3: Yeash, I need this game. Well, thank you. That's nice.
Speaker 4: I would say it definitely makes me grateful for a
Speaker 4: job like this, where, you know, having a late night
Speaker 4: job is one of the more stable things you could
Speaker 4: have in the comedy industry, and it's nice when you
Speaker 4: do have kids and have a family, but it's definitely
Speaker 4: harder for stand up because now I am, you know,
Speaker 4: working during the day and trying to find the time
Speaker 4: to go out at night when really, like I go home,
Speaker 4: I want to see them too, because I get to
Speaker 4: see them.
Speaker 3: For an hour before work, an hour after work before bed.
Speaker 4: So I can sneak out after they go to bed
Speaker 4: to like do shows, and I try to as much
Speaker 4: as I can. But then once I'm home then I'm
Speaker 4: just like, oh fuck, I'm tired. I want to go
Speaker 4: to that too. So it is, but I'm now anyone
Speaker 4: out there who's been postpartum, multiply it by one hundred
Speaker 4: for having two at the same time. And then also
Speaker 4: you just like don't feel like yourself after having kids,
Speaker 4: going through the trauma of labor and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and you know, figuring out how to be a parent.
Speaker 4: But I think just in the past six months my
Speaker 4: kids are fourteen months now, I finally started feeling like
Speaker 4: myself again where I could actually kind of like think
Speaker 4: of jokes I wanted to tell and find humor in
Speaker 4: my personal life, whereas before I was just like crying
Speaker 4: on the toilet and like nothing was funny. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: now I am finally like feeling that spark again, that
Speaker 4: kind of like motivation and vigoration. You really need to
Speaker 4: have the energy to go out at night, you know,
Speaker 4: leave your partner, leave your family, whatever it is, to
Speaker 4: like go tell jokes to strangers in a basement at
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock at night. So I'm kind of feeling that again,
Speaker 4: but finding myself kind of struggling to get back into
Speaker 4: the stand up scene too, because I've essentially been out
Speaker 4: of it while I was like pregnant and having kids
Speaker 4: and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So the scene changes quickly.
Speaker 4: So I am kind of like finding the internal and external,
Speaker 4: you know, factors of getting back out on stage, but
Speaker 4: doing it. I'm ready I'm, you know, writing jokes I
Speaker 4: had again about my personal life, which has been nice,
Speaker 4: feeling more like myself.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they are of the same variety
Speaker 1: as before? Do you think a lot of it is
Speaker 1: in the present, Like a lot of it is about
Speaker 1: being a parent, a lot of it is about how
Speaker 1: your life is changing.
Speaker 4: I think I am working on jokes that are more specifically.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to talk more about being pregnant and having
Speaker 4: kids and having twins. So I'm it's kind of good
Speaker 4: to give me a focus to try to focus my
Speaker 4: things on writing about that, to maybe make a special
Speaker 4: whether it's twenty four minutes or an hour that is
Speaker 4: kind of one focus as opposed to a lot of
Speaker 4: specials that can you know, jump around. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: here's the hour of jokes I happen to have now.
Speaker 4: I feel like it would feel good to put out
Speaker 4: something that's a little more cohesive, maybe focused on one topic,
Speaker 4: kind of like like Burbiglia. Does you know stuff like
Speaker 4: that where it's got a beginning, middle and end.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha Angel?
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't have kids, but I still kind of
Speaker 2: I'm on that schedule. Yeah, just wake up screaming, crying myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, making sure you get your naps in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'll be on solid Foods next year.
Speaker 1: Oh so you add a YouTube special that you self
Speaker 1: produced and released. It's out now. He tell us the
Speaker 1: name and what the process was like making it.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm happy to josh. It's called New York
Speaker 2: Legend and it's on YouTube if you look up New
Speaker 2: York Legend and my name, which is David Angelo. And uh,
Speaker 2: it's only twenty four minutes, which I you know, I
Speaker 2: was thinking I can't ask too much of this, you know,
Speaker 2: because I'm not famous. So if you're if you're not
Speaker 2: famous person asking someone for an hour, it's a little
Speaker 2: it's a little egregious, I think. So it's like, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna do twenty four minutes. And I also when
Speaker 2: I watch specials around that mark is where I, even
Speaker 2: when I like it and it's really funny, that's where
Speaker 2: I start to be a little like, all right, right,
Speaker 2: might pause this and come back later. It's just hard
Speaker 2: to go through an hour at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's twenty four minutes. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: it's almost like a short movie. It's a little bit
Speaker 2: different than in format. But yeah, I made it last
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was November, and it's out
Speaker 2: now and you can you can watch it, you can
Speaker 2: leave a comment, you can share. If you have fifty
Speaker 2: thousand friends, you can share it with. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Just get some views out there.
Speaker 3: Does I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty thousand very close friends that I will be
Speaker 1: putting on to the special. Once they listen to this,
Speaker 1: they'll head to a special right after.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's great, that's great, and you know, I think
Speaker 2: they'll like it. It's kind of you know, it's set
Speaker 2: New York, New York legend. A lot of movies that
Speaker 2: are like love letters to the city. This is more
Speaker 2: like hate mail. And you know, it's just kind of
Speaker 2: my experience fictionalized of course, meaning not at all in
Speaker 2: the New York comedy scene. And that's kind of what
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for after this one, after the fifty thousand
Speaker 1: hits that you get from the likes and you you
Speaker 1: delve into the next one.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the next one. That's gonna be
Speaker 4: thirty six minutes. I want to know what the rest
Speaker 4: of the hour is.
Speaker 2: I'm going shorter I'm good. You're just gonna get down.
Speaker 1: To That is a fun format though, it's like you
Speaker 1: just keep doing like like second, third, and fourth and
Speaker 1: they're shorter, but then you put the whole thing together
Speaker 1: and it's an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, different parts, they'll be different ages. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how you do it. That's how you build a catalog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, awesome.
Speaker 4: I'll say for me, I have local shows in New
Speaker 4: York that are gonna be happening I think before this airs,
Speaker 4: but I'm building some dates out to get back on
Speaker 4: the road since my husband's great and he's gonna take
Speaker 4: care of the kids and let me go to shows
Speaker 4: on the road. So you can check out Katradley dot
Speaker 4: com or follow me on Instagram, Twitter, all that stuff
Speaker 4: to check out places you can see me in New
Speaker 4: York or out on the road.
Speaker 3: Hopefully. What do you got, Josh, What do you have
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 1: I do have dates coming up. You can go to
Speaker 1: Josh Rohnson Comedy dot com to get those dates and
Speaker 1: to be added to the wait list. In case we
Speaker 1: add a show, we will email you and it's the
Speaker 1: best way to get the link directly. Just because there
Speaker 1: are scammers out there that are charging what I would
Speaker 1: never charge.
Speaker 4: I have my own website Josh Johnson dot net. I
Speaker 4: can get it to you at a lower price.
Speaker 1: I finally caught you. I finally found you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let us know. So so as far as people following
Speaker 1: you on the Instagram, Twitter, also that are you cat
Speaker 1: Radley everywhere?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Kat Radley on Instagram, on Twitter, and my
Speaker 4: website is Katradley dot com.
Speaker 3: I got them no one else, no one else was trying.
Speaker 3: I got them.
Speaker 1: You smoked them.
Speaker 2: And then for Angelo, I'm mister David Angelo on all platforms,
Speaker 2: it's Mr David Angelo. I also have a razor company.
Speaker 2: This is a little out out of left field, but
Speaker 2: Western Razor dot com. I sell razors and these are
Speaker 2: you know, they're good razors. They're no plastic. You can
Speaker 2: buy replacement blades or less than a dollar, so you
Speaker 2: you know, you save money too. It's all made in America.
Speaker 2: Go check it out just out of curiosity. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell is that? Go look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I am Josh Johnson Comedy on pretty much everything, Instagram,
Speaker 1: TikTok and YouTube where I put up stand up every week.
Speaker 1: So you can follow me there and enjoy and watch.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. This has been
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, Kat Radley, and David Angelo. Thank you for
Speaker 1: listening to The Day Show Ears edition. We'll see you
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