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Speaker 1: Veriables there, Hello, and welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by Price Picks. I'm your host, Samantha Pervidi. As always,

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Speaker 1: we will be answering your mail bag questions every Thursday

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, which you can submit to future shows

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Speaker 1: to mail bag at actionnetwork dot com. As always, I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to be joined by my colleague Brandon Anderson,

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Speaker 1: who is an NFL and NBA writer here at the

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Speaker 1: Action Network, who you can find on Twitter at Wheat

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Speaker 1: and Bread. I know, Brandon, how is your pre week

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Speaker 3: It's going great. You know you and I both had

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Speaker 3: a very good week ten. My Vikings got a big

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking that they are similar to Washington football

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the key name here that I

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Speaker 1: You should definitely do like a column or something just

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Speaker 3: But yeah, more than a few friends I've told me

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Speaker 1: I think it's just that they think you have such charisma.

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Speaker 1: out and buy him. All right, hit me with some

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Speaker 3: All right, running backs? We got James Connor, We've got

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Speaker 1: So the cell for me is going to be James Connor.

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Speaker 1: So if you were concerned that Khalil Herbert was going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on crdial Patterson. You know, Thursday,

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Speaker 3: really frankly, it probably depends on as you're shopping your

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Speaker 3: thought is this James Connor twelve touchdowns the last eight games,

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Speaker 3: He's going to keep getting touched down. I think he's

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Speaker 3: talk someone into David Montgomery's trade value as a higher

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I feel like I didn't answer

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Speaker 4: I also think like obviously all of these things have

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Speaker 1: Connor, I mean if someone if the manager happens to

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Speaker 1: and thinking like, oh well, they're like not worth worth

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. All right, Let's do some receivers

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Speaker 3: I like this one. These are some intriguing names. Not

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Speaker 1: Pretty hop Man like he's the one that doesn't it

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Speaker 3: The friend group. He has me hanging out.

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Speaker 1: He just has high upside when he's healthy. He's in

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Speaker 1: He was quiet in Week ten against Miami, reeled in

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Speaker 3: a touchdown in ten of the fifteen games too. So

432
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting because Marquise Brown, if I think

433
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: of what I imagine him to be, he's the exact

434
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: sort of receiver that I normally don't want in fantasy

435
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: because in my head, I think of him like a

436
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 3: DeShawn Jackson, like a prime to Shawn Jackson, where it's like, okay,

437
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: we get last week three catches for thirty yards or

438
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and then we get that again this week,

439
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: and then the next week you get five catches, two hundred

440
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns and then back down again. And

441
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't like fantasy players like that, like when the

442
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: one week that they have the good one, but they're

443
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: really hurting you the rest of the games. And I

444
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: prefer the high floor guys. That's not Marcus Brown, though.

445
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: Marcus Brown has shown when he's getting these touchdowns ten

446
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: out of fifteen games and consistently getting yardage most weeks.

447
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 3: He's had to think only like three off games this

448
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: year and then a lot of good ones. And in

449
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: a running offense, Lamar Jackson's yards, We've talked about him

450
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: a lot, He's gonna keep producing. So Marcus Brown is

451
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: clearly of these three, the guy that you would want.

452
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: And I think because he's a Ravens receiver, because there's

453
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 3: that perception of him, you might still be able to

454
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: buy and get some value on him, especially coming off

455
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: that bad week. So definitely a guy to want to get.

456
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: I largely agree overall here. The problem I agree with

457
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman is the guy of the three that I

458
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: would least want on my team down the stretch. He

459
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: sort of is the James Connor of this category here, Like,

460
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 3: I think he's a solid play like I don't feel

461
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: bad about it. I'm happy to have Michael Pittman. I'll

462
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: keep him. I'll put him my lineup. He's gonna be

463
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: hopefully my third receiver. He's just gonna keep doing his thing.

464
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: He's not a name that you're probably gonna get a

465
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: lot for in a trade, So that's the problem with

466
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 3: selling him. I wouldn't mind if this is my receiving core.

467
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: If I have these three guys, I think that I

468
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: would actually end up trying to sell DeAndre Hopkins. I'm

469
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: not sure Pittman is going to be much worse than Hopkins,

470
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: maybe not at all. And Hopkins is gonna for sure

471
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: be the sexier name and get some attention. So in

472
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: a trade value, I think he's gonna have a little

473
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: more trade upside. Only forty five targets for Nuke in

474
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 3: those eight games that he's played, just it's not what

475
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: he wants. Was like Hopkins, here's the things you're counting on.

476
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: Number one, he's got to get healthy. Number two, Kyler's

477
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: got to get healthy. Number three, you have a bye

478
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: week still to come, So you're losing the value there

479
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: depending on if you're pushing for your playoffs. That's important

480
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: and all those things matter. But then the thing on

481
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: top of it is, he wasn't DeAndre Hopkins before all that.

482
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: He was just Michael Pittman before for all of that,

483
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: or another similar receiver like the Cardinals now that they're

484
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: really good. The thing with being really good is it

485
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: means James Counter gets touchdowns, and Chase Edmonds runs the ball,

486
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: and Rondell Moore and all these other guys are getting catches.

487
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: It's great for Arizona, not so good for Downra Hopkins.

488
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: So I don't think he's gonna be terrible. I certainly

489
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: take Hopkins on my team. If he's playing, I'll put

490
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 3: on my team. But yeah, I think also I think

491
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: I'll go with him as the cell just because I

492
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be name value there. You know, you

493
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: get your name brand, Michael Pittman. He's kind of like

494
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: the Walmart brand, you know, just you can go get him.

495
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: I think he's a nice hole. Keep him around, keep

496
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: him your lineup, and improve your team elsewhere.

497
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Speaker 1: I think you may have talked me into this it's

498
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: really just if if you can get anything for him.

499
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being a little too pessimistic, but you're right.

500
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: I mean the name does carry some cache, so certainly

501
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: is something that I would pitch to someone if I could.

502
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: All right, let us wrap up with titands.

503
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: Yes, finally some real tight ends. After weeks and weeks

504
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 3: of talking about Dan Arnold every week, we get to

505
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: move up the ladder a little bit. So we've got TJ. Howkinson,

506
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, and Darren Waller. So if you don't have

507
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, these are probably about the best that you

508
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: can hope for these days. So what do you think

509
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: between those three, which one are you hoping to help

510
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: hold on too down the stretch?

511
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean these are all top six locked in

512
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: guys that we all felt really good about drafting, and

513
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, some of them have been so great, Like

514
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, he's been a very frustrating case for Fantasy. Okay, dude,

515
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: saw nineteen targets in week one and like now he's

516
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: just had like I mean, the targets are there, but

517
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: the productions not. And it's just really really frustrating because

518
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: you do need him to compete and produce at that

519
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: elite level to justify kind of what you paid for him.

520
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: So he should have feasted on the Chiefs defense in

521
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: Week ten, but caught just four of seven targets for

522
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: twenty four yards. Like, that's just not going to cut it.

523
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: He has by far the softest schedule down the stretch, though,

524
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: and I think his production will come in time. So

525
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: I like him as the buy just because it feels

526
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: like you're kind of buying him at his nay deer uh.

527
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits is the hold for me, And maybe this

528
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: is a little biased because I am a Kyle Pits person,

529
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: but he has been up and down this year, but

530
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: has shown life in this offense in spite of a

531
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: struggling Falcons team. People were really eager to write him

532
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: off after this slow start, but the reality is he

533
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: is tightened seven on a per game basis, Like he

534
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: was drafted in that tight end four to tighten six years.

535
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, it's not amazing, but it's also not

536
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: a bust. And he has at least six targets in

537
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: every game but one this year, two one hundred receiving

538
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: yard games, and he has just one touchdown, which makes

539
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: me feel like he could be due for some positive regression.

540
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: So he is the guy that I want to hold

541
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: on to selling TJ. Hawkinson. Now, I do like t J. Hawkinson.

542
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: It might be a little hard to move him after

543
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: laying a goose egg in week ten fail to catch

544
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: his loan target in that game, but he has more

545
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: finishes outside the top twelve than inside of it. Detroit

546
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have a particularly difficult schedule down the stretch. But

547
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I am really fine with deleveraging myself from this offense,

548
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: which may be led by Tim Boyle who is taking

549
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: first team reps while Jared Goff is out with weak

550
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: in tree. So not a super exciting prospect for Hawkinson.

551
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: So if you can sell him to someone, I would

552
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: definitely consider it.

553
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim Boyle is an accountant. If we ever have

554
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: heard of an accountant on here, maybe it's just Tim's.

555
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: I think Tim Pepprick is their other countant that we

556
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: like to talk about. So yeah, I think of these three, TJ.

557
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Howkinson is the guy that I am least interested in. Like, look,

558
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: let's be honest. Idea of selling here is relative. People

559
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: are knocking down your door to grab TG Howkinson or

560
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: Darren Waller off of your hands, So you're probably not

561
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: going to get a ton here. I think if you're

562
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: really trying to make a big move to sell off

563
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: a tight end, I think Kyle Pitts is probably the

564
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: only name that you can actually sell to get something

565
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: out of it. So I'm just gonna kind of treat

566
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: this one more as like, Okay, who do I like best?

567
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: Who I like least? Just because you know, there's not

568
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: a lot of tight end trades, even for a guy

569
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: like me. You know, if you can get your Tony Gonzalez,

570
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: your Antonio Gates, your maybe Travis Kelcey if last week

571
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: is back again, that's the tight end you trade for.

572
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: Maybe you get one of these guys like a throw in,

573
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: like if you actually want a trade for a tight end,

574
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: here's my advice to you. If you want one of

575
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: these guys, don't make the trade offer for them. Make

576
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: a trade. I like, pick a running back on their

577
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: team that you basically like the same as running back

578
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: on your team, but that maybe they might think your

579
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: guys better and then put the tight end in their

580
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: two so that like disguise your trade. If they know

581
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: you want their tight end, you've played your cards too easily,

582
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: So disguise it. Slip the tight end as like the

583
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: second guy in there. So that's my advice. I think

584
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: I like Darren Waller as the safest floor of this group.

585
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: You know, the targets are there. Kyle Pitts is the

586
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: upside of play. So's the flashy name the stat of

587
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: all these guys that I like. Because Kyle Pits forty

588
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: catches six hundred and six yards. The math on that

589
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: tells me over fifteen yards of catch. So Kyle Pitts,

590
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: what we liked about him in the draft is that

591
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: he's kind of a receiver disguise as a tight end.

592
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: And guess what, they don't have any receivers, so he's

593
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: really a receiver disguised as a tight end. So again,

594
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: thinking about what your team as, if you just if

595
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: you've got a couple of tight ends, you have trade

596
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: one away. Pitch is the name to trade away if

597
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a tight end, especially if I'm like,

598
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: all right, I just need to take a swing. I

599
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: need some upside. Pits is the name that jumps out

600
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: as like, okay, he could really have some hundred yard games.

601
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: He could really do some stuff down the stretch here.

602
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think for the question, I would say

603
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: a hole Darren Waller. I think he'll be very steady,

604
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: He'll be fine. I would buy Kyle Pitts if I'm

605
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: trying to get it, and I would sell TJ. Hockinson.

606
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: So I think we came out the same. But I

607
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: did get to talk about tight ends a lot.

608
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: You are out here playing some three D Illuminati chess

609
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: with your trade offers and whatnot. I think it's hilarious.

610
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: You definitely should do some kind of article or just

611
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: advice because a lot of people find it really hard

612
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: to trade, including myself. I'm like, I'm really awkward about it.

613
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how to really like send good trades.

614
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: I do, but I just it. It gives me anxiety,

615
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: is what I want to say to send trade offers

616
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: and stuff. But so like with your vast experience and

617
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: sort of knowledge of the human mind, you should definitely

618
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: give out some adviice.

619
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: So here's my one other piece of advice, because I

620
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: think we're wrapping this now and you know you've got

621
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: your trade deadline this week. So my main advice if

622
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: you go into a trade, especially if you're the one

623
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: on initiating, which you know that's me. I like to

624
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: be the one initiating the trade talk. It's easy to

625
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: go into a trade thinking how do I win this trade?

626
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: How do I get the guy that I want from

627
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: this trade? Of course you're thinking that do you think

628
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: that that's the point of the trade. You should want

629
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: to win the trade. But that other person, they're a person,

630
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: they also want to win the trade. So you've got

631
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: to think about it as, Okay, how do I help

632
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: them win this trade, or at least make them think

633
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: that they're winning this trade. And I don't mean like

634
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: lie to them and try to manipulate and whatever, but

635
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: like I think that you know, we just went through

636
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: a lot of good things about all these players. With

637
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, if he's the guy that you're selling, he's

638
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: got selling points. You can look at the roster, like

639
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: look for a team that really just needs a solid

640
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: second or third receiver, and you to just be honest, Look,

641
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: I know Michael Piman's not sexy, but he's had twelve

642
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Fantasy points or more in PPR leagues eight of the

643
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: ten games. Like he'll plug your lineup hole. I could

644
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: use another running back, and I've got extra receivers here.

645
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: What do you think like when you go into the trade,

646
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: start by not here's what I want, but here's how

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: I can help you. Here's the deal, here's why this

648
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: can help your trade. And I think you know that

649
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 3: like that can sound manipulative, but I think you're just

650
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: genuine about it. Then that's a really good place to

651
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: start your trade. And it kind of takes down that

652
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: like awkward initial barrier, and you know, like people like

653
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: to feel like they're helping each other out, and you know,

654
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: I think this good good place to start for a trade.

655
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: So try to think about what the other person want

656
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: for their team and how can I help them? And too,

657
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: if you know that they're a viking, span offer them

658
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: a viking, you know, like learn about your league mates.

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: If they happen to be a stud running back person,

660
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: offer them a running back, you know, like take advantage

661
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: of what you're seeing in front of you. So, yeah,

662
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: that's that's my last trade advice for you to go

663
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: back into trade hibernation now until next year.

664
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Very funny, Well, all of us could use a little

665
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: more used car salesman in our lives, all right, let

666
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: us just jump into mailback questions.

667
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: So first question comes from Dale. He would like to

668
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: know would you trade Hunter, Renfrell and Javonte Williams for

669
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: AJ Brown? Interesting? I like all three of these names

670
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: a little bit. What do you think about this trade?

671
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: I was literally just going to say, I like all

672
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: three of these guys, and so that's a little tough.

673
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I think I like the trade. Williams is an interesting

674
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: case because his snapshare has actually been going up well

675
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: when Gordon's has been going down, So I think that's

676
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: an interesting thing to capitalize on if you want to

677
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: keep him in your lineup. But that said, he's only

678
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: had three finishes inside the top twenty four and a

679
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: half PPR, so I kind of doubt that you've been

680
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: starting Williams on a weekly basis if you're in contention

681
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. That's not like a super crazy take,

682
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: but like you could be, you could be could be

683
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: just like really strong at receiver or whatever. But a

684
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of doubt that you are using him every week.

685
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Renfro is also interesting because I like his rest of

686
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: season value, obviously with Henry Ruggs out of the picture,

687
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: and he's been a monster in terms of just consistent targets.

688
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: He remains ci alfa with you know, like Brian Edwards

689
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: will be involved, but you know Brian Edwards will also

690
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: like loose eggs, So I don't He's a guy I

691
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: don't like, but uh, I think his presence also does.

692
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: Cap Renfro's at kind of like that low end wide

693
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: receiver too. It kind of keeps him from jumping up

694
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: to that next year. So a J. Brown, I feel

695
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: like you're you're buying at a very low point. He's

696
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: definitely had two off weeks, but he's got the Texans

697
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: this week, so I like that. It's a bounced back spot.

698
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say I would like this trade.

699
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, this interesting because, like I said, you know, both

700
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: of us, we like all three of these names here.

701
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: So Javonte Williams in particular, he's a running back that

702
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: I would be looking to trade for in leagues, just

703
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: as as a flyer with upside. Like you know in

704
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: fantasy we know every year we get to this home

705
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: stretch and you get just a few of those, usually

706
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: like backup or younger type running backs that breakthrough and

707
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: end up being top ten guys league winners for your

708
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: team Javonte Williams to me, seems like a possible candidate

709
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 3: for that sort of player. Just the way he runs.

710
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: He seems to have like a highlight run once a game.

711
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: He just he runs mean like he's as teams are

712
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: getting tired and the weather's getting colder, and it's Denver, Like,

713
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's easy to see Javanta Williams

714
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: step forward, especially if Denver starts to slide a little

715
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: bit out of the playoff picture, it makes sense to

716
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: do a little bit less with Melvin Gordon more with

717
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: Javonte Williams. So I like him. I like Renfro for

718
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: the reasons you said at first. That makes me think man,

719
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: Obviously AJ Brown he's the name here. Obviously you want

720
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: a J. Brown. But I hate to give up these

721
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: other two guys who I like. Then a good way

722
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: to think about trade sometimes, flip it around. If I

723
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: have AJ Brown and someone offered me Javanta Williams and

724
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro, what would I do. I would decline so fast,

725
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: and I would laugh while I did it, and I

726
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: would probably write an angry email like get your trade

727
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: offer out of here. Come on. AJ Brown is my

728
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: second or third pick is my star. Don't be offering

729
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: me a slot receiver and a backup running back. Come on,

730
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: Like for AJ Brown, you have to get more than that.

731
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: So it helps the thing about the other side. So

732
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: if you can get AJ Brown for these guys like

733
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: Renfro might be good, Javontae Williams could be really good.

734
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: AJ Brown is good, So get AJ Brown. And I

735
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: think that's how you have to make the decision on

736
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: that one.

737
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: It is definitely an interesting trade. Like but the way

738
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: I see it, like I said, Williams to me is

739
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: like the bench player that your staff hoping that he

740
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: has that breakout. But and then you have a wide

741
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: receiver two at best, and you're trading for a wide

742
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: receiver one. So to me, that gives me. That gives

743
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: way more utility, especially if you're making a push for

744
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So yes, I like that trade. All right,

745
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: next question, All.

746
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: Right, let's hear from Kenzie. They would like to know

747
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: can I drop Khalil Herbert? What do you think is

748
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: Herbert's season over?

749
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm fine with dropping Herbert. Yeah, I mean he was

750
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: a total dud in Week nine with David Montgomery back,

751
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: and I just I think that was just premonition of

752
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: things to come. This is Monty's backfield, and Montgomery saw

753
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: over three times the rushes that Herbert saw, and he's

754
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: just been a I don't know. I think he's worth

755
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: rostering if you have a deep bench, if you want

756
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: an insurance policy type guy. But he's just not sexy

757
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: to me, and he offered. He's like one of the

758
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: in backup guys who just has a near zero upside

759
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: when their starter is healthy. Like there are some guys

760
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: that I mean, like Tony Pollard or something like that.

761
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: I do actually have some standalone value, but Herbert has

762
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: no standalone value for me. So I am okay with

763
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: you cutting bait with Khalil Herbert.

764
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I don't have too much Dad. It's

765
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: you know, we had a good run. You got some

766
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: nice value out of Khalil Herbert, and you know, if

767
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: Montgomery gets hurt again, you can pick Herbert back up again.

768
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: I don't think there's too much to lose here. Of course,

769
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: always can you drop someone, It depends on who you're

770
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: picking up, Like, don't drop some don't drop Herbert just

771
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: to get rid of him. But yeah, I think I

772
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: think it's time for him to go. And yeah, I'll

773
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: be another question about Herbert here, different Herbert from Jason.

774
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Jason wants to know at this point, is justin Herbert

775
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: just a bench streamer. Two good to drop the waivers,

776
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: but two inconsistencies start each week? So what do you

777
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: think about this, Herbert?

778
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: I think your assessment is correct, so that he is

779
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: like that bench guy that you don't want to cub

780
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: because of course he's going to be picked up. Like

781
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I hate that when you drop a guy and he's

782
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: like immediately picked up. It makes me feel so gross.

783
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, but he's also not been super

784
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: super consistent. That said, he's one game removed from finishing

785
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: at the QB two for the week, he's lost three

786
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: three one hundred and fifty six yards in that game

787
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns. I understand the frustration that he hasn't

788
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: been super reliable though, because he has more finishes outside

789
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: the top twelve than he has inside of it. He

790
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: has a difficult schedule coming up in the near term

791
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh and Denver, but it softens up significantly weeks

792
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: fourteen through sixteen. They've got the Giants, Chiefs, and Texans

793
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: in that span. I mean, I hate rostering two quarterbacks,

794
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: but it might be worth it just for like to

795
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: play him in the right spots. What do you think, Randon?

796
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Justin Herbert is very frustrating. Definitely, can't cut him.

797
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: You got to keep him around, even if it's keeping

798
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: a second quarterback. He's definitely in the mix. Like, look,

799
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: you said weeks fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen, which, by the way,

800
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: those are those important weeks in fantasy football. Do those

801
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: weeks matter?

802
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? They matter?

803
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Giants, Chiefs, Texans, that's looking pretty good. Do

804
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: you want to keep Herbert around for that? Do you

805
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: know how mad you would be if you cut Justin

806
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: Herbert and your opponent picked him up and played him

807
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: against you against the Chiefs against the Texans in your

808
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: playoff matchup, Like, you don't want any of that smoke.

809
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: So you can't cut him. You gotta keep him around.

810
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: He's frustrating. So I'm on the Action Network podcast with

811
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: Rheen Palmer and Sunday Night. For Monday's episode, we talked

812
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: about who do we trust at quarterback? Who'd be our

813
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: top ten quarterbacks th rest of the way, not fantasy,

814
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: Just like right now, our team can have a quarterback,

815
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: who do you trust. I had a hot take. I

816
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: had Justin Herbert fourth on my list. I think Justin

817
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: Herbert is actually playing really, really good football. He's diming

818
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: it up, he's hitting receivers. You know, he's he's young.

819
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: He's making a few mistakes here and there. I think

820
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: the problem is Joe Lombardi, offensive coordinator, is really holding

821
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: that offense back like he's He's like, hey, I know

822
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: what's good. I played with the Saints the last decade.

823
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: Let's do the Drew Brees offense. You know, the one

824
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: where we do these short, little accurate passes with the

825
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 3: noodle arm that throws five yards. Let's do those. No,

826
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: you've Justin Herbert throw the ball thirty yards down the field,

827
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: like build it around your guy. The problem is that's

828
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: not getting fixed in the next week or two weeks

829
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: or three weeks of fantasy. So we had to deal

830
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: with both sides of it. So yeah, I think that

831
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: you keep him and then you play the matchup and

832
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: luckily the schedule that you talked about. Don't play him

833
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh. I don't like it at all this week.

834
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: Don't play him against Denver. Keep him and play him

835
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: in those Giants Chiefs Texans. It's just you know, if

836
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: you don't have a superstar quarterback, next best thing is

837
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: have a few guys and play the matchups. And I

838
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't mind if the matchups make it

839
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: pretty easy for me. And I think that the matchups

840
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: make the Herbert decision pretty easy. So yeah, on a

841
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: buy sell hold sort of thing, you're not going to

842
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: get much for him. You can't cut him. He got

843
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: a hold onto him. And you know, he's a very

844
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: talented guy. He's gonna have some of those big games,

845
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: and I think that he might get some of those

846
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: games to come.

847
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: So I have a follow up question. Did Kirk Cousins

848
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: make your top ten list?

849
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: Do you think that Kirk Cousins made my top ten list?

850
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: Do we really?

851
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this top ten list, Brandon, So I'm

852
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: just asking questions.

853
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: So Kirk Cousins, I'm trying to remember he did not

854
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: make my top ten. He wasn't far off though. He

855
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: was something like twelve through thirteenth. I had very clear

856
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: top eight that ended out with my bottom of my

857
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: top eight was Dak Prescott, Russells and Kyler Murray. Only

858
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: because those guys are injured, and it was a pretty

859
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: big drop. And then Ryan Keannehill led a group of

860
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: a bunch of Ryan Cannah Hilly sort of guys, which

861
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is one of them. So yeah, Matt, Ryan

862
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: like all you know a Ryan. Hey, look we got

863
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: a Ryan into the show. So Kirk was kind of

864
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: in that mix. It's those guys, it's the worst. They're

865
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: the worst guys because you have them and you're like,

866
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: we're winning, we did good, we won games. We're ten

867
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: and six, let's make the playoffs. And then you're like, oh,

868
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: but we have Kirk Cousins. So glad we made the playoffs.

869
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: But now we have to play those top eight guys

870
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: because they're all in the playoffs. That's how this works.

871
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: So they're very frustrating. No, thank you for reminding me.

872
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins did not, in fact make my top ten airnoff.

873
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Brandon, well, why don't we do our prize pick secment?

874
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Speaker 1: How does that sound all? Right? Next up here on

875
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Flex, it's our Elite Entry segment where Brandon

876
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: dives into the Prize Picks app to build some entries.

877
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: He identifies some markets he likes. You build your own

878
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: Prize pick centuries and all of us have a little

879
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: fun and make some money. So today we are going

880
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: to look at Thursday night plays for week eleven on

881
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Prize Picks. This is going to be a fun Thursday

882
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: night game, a for Brow twenty seventeen showdown, obviously a

883
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: different quarterback for the Patriots, but could definitely be a

884
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: fun one. So Brennan hits with someplace you like.

885
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, can we please get in Atlanta twenty eight three lead? Like,

886
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: do you have any please? The internet would the Internet

887
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: would melt, the Internet would be over if we got

888
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: a twenty eight to three lead. So yeah, Unfortunately, I

889
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: don't really love Atlanta's chances of scoring twenty eight points

890
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: in this game. I'm not sure it's going to happen. So,

891
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: like always, I kind of like to think about what's

892
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: the angle on the game here? What are we looking at?

893
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: So Atlanta is missing Calvin Ridley. I think we're gonna

894
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: be missing Crail Patterson. We don't know yet, and right

895
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: now both teams have running back issues. We don't know

896
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 3: if Daman Harris will play either. I'm assuming they're both out.

897
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: There are no really rushing props or there are no

898
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: really rushing angles you can play on prize picks right now.

899
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: But what do you have against Mike Davis and Wayne Bell?

900
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: What do you have for Mike Davis? You're a panther.

901
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: Tell me about Mike Davis. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.

902
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: So here's the thing with Atlanta. Man actually is playing

903
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: pretty well. Matt Ryan almost made my top ten quarterbacks

904
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 3: as we just talked about it. He was number eleven,

905
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: I think, so. I like Matt Ryan. But the Patriots

906
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: pass defense has been awesome, like they have been absolutely

907
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: elite lately. There's no Cohen Ridley, there's no Carol Patterson.

908
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: There is a Kyle Pitts. And it'd be very tempting

909
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: to be like, well, if Patterson is out too, all

910
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: in Kyle Pitts, that's who're going to force feed to you.

911
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: Guess what Bill Belichick also thought of that. Bill Belichick

912
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: has made literally a decade long career out of saying,

913
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: what's the thing you do? You don't get to do

914
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: that anymore. So I'm going under and Kyle Pitts multiple ways.

915
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under on Kyle Pits fantasy points. I'm

916
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: taking the under on Kyle Pits receiving yards that the

917
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: Patriots not only is Pits the obvious thing that they

918
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: had to take away. The Patriots are number one in

919
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: DVOA against height ends the season. They've only allowed under

920
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: thirty one receiving yards the game the tight ends. So

921
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: Pitt's under fifty two and a half receiving yards. I

922
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 3: know he's had sixty or more. And for the last

923
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: five games, that's why we're gonna win. We're gonna take

924
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: everyone else's the money while they're playing the cale Pits overs.

925
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: Our overs have not done so well on Thursday Nights.

926
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: Thursdays seems like an under sort of night to me.

927
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: So cal Pits under receiving yards. If he goes under

928
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: that receiving yards, they're gonna a great chance to go

929
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: under the fantasy points. Basically, we just not meet. Just

930
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: need to not get a touchdown. So he's under twelve

931
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: fantasy points in six of nine games, almost seven, and

932
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 3: is four yards away from another one. So double under

933
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: and Kyle Pitts not much else to play from Atlanta.

934
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: The way that the Patriots are playing the last five

935
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: to the last six games, mac Jones has gotten under

936
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: the passing line here two hundred and thirty five and

937
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: a half yards. And also, probably not coincidentally, the Patriots

938
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: have won five of their last six games. Not the

939
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: exact same games there, but they kind of figured the

940
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: formula out. Run the ball. The defensive line is getting healthy.

941
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Trent Williams or sorry, Trent Brown is and you know

942
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: the Patriots, they figure this out. Really good defense, right line,

943
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: run the ball. Let mac jones just kind of like, look,

944
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: let's not overreact to mcdos. He's been very nice. He

945
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: had a great game. He's a good system quarterback right now.

946
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: That's not a diss He's a rookie. Rookies are not

947
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: supposed to be good at that. He's doing well at that.

948
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: Plus not go overboard. We're gonna fade his yards because

949
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: they don't want him passing a lot. It's the Falcons.

950
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: Just run the ball, play some defense, and get out

951
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: of here with their win. So under passing yards and

952
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: if you want a fourth one kind of in conjunction,

953
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: Jacoby Meers under ten Fantasy points. He was under in

954
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: a five straight games before last week. My guy, Jakobe Myers,

955
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: there is a god. He found the end zone. He's

956
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: scored a touchdown. He did it. You know, that's how

957
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: you know the Browns played a bad game when you

958
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: let Jacobin. So before that, five straight games of under

959
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: ten fantasy point. It's Kenna's basically been his upper bound

960
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: this year. He had the one touchdown. Finally he had

961
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: two huge target games. It's right about in the mix

962
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: for him. He's usually a round like eight or nine.

963
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: So's it's close here. But that would be a fourth edition,

964
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: so everyone under under under under look. I wanted to

965
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: play Ramonde Stephenson overs, but there are no lines yet.

966
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: But if you're playing this Thursday, that might be changed

967
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: by then if we've got some news. So if Damien

968
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: Harris is out, I like Rimonde Street Stephenson to have

969
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: a nice game running the ball well. But otherwise Kyle

970
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: Fitts under receiving yards and fantasy points, Mac Jones under

971
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: passing yards, ja Kobe Myers under in fantasy points. Let's

972
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: root against humanity and win some money.

973
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: I really like these to your point. Actually, I do

974
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: a Prize Pick segment on month or recorded on Mondays

975
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: and that it gets released on Tuesdays for all the

976
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: quarterback plays that I like on Prize picks, and I

977
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: also went under on mac Jones passing yards. I've just

978
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: been riding that. That's been four straight weeks that I

979
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: have been riding that one, and.

980
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: It's just like they put up They can put up

981
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: a ton of points, but mac Jones never puts up

982
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: a lot of yards. I mean even last game they

983
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: tacked on like forty five points against the Browns three touchdowns,

984
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: but mac Jones had low two hundreds for passing yards

985
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: I think, so it was certainly not impressive.

986
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, to your point, he is a good

987
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: system quarterback and he's doing really well with the cards

988
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: he's being dealt. He doesn't have a ton of crazy,

989
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: crazy good weapons there, so they're making it work, and

990
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: they're making it work with the rushing. Love for more Stephenson.

991
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: He's definitely a guy that I feel like is going

992
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: to have a role in this offense no matter what,

993
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Like even when Damien Harris is totally healthy, I think

994
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: he's a guy as long as he doesn't miss like

995
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: a team meeting or where the rock color.

996
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

997
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: You definitely never know. And then yeah, I like the

998
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts unders as much as it pains me because

999
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: we just know what Bill Belichick does really well. Well,

1000
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: he does a lot of things really well. He shuts

1001
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: down repee quarterbacks really well. But he also knows how

1002
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: to take away someone's best weapon. And unfortunately for the Falcons,

1003
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of weapons to you know,

1004
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: fixate on, so it feels like he's going to be

1005
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: the natural one to take away. So and by the way,

1006
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Bolls that you said Ryan almost made the top ten

1007
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: or did meet the pupman?

1008
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: He was? He was my number eleven. I put Matt

1009
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: Stafford in just because it felt weird to leave Matt

1010
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Stafford out, And then the next night Matt Stafford made

1011
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: me really wish I left him out, So I know

1012
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm switching it. Matt, Ryan, You're number ten now, congratulations, buddy.

1013
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: That is bold after last game. But I know, just

1014
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: just to flip hopefully, all right, do you want to

1015
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: just remind everyone what the four that you like are

1016
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: before your office up?

1017
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Kyle Pitts under fifty two and a half

1018
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: receiving yards and under twelve fantasy points, Matt Jones on

1019
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty five and a half passing yards,

1020
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: Goby Meyers under ten the fantasy points. Let's get some unders.

1021
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for our early entry for

1022
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. As a reminder, you can mix match

1023
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: fantasy points like Brandon did and player props, but you

1024
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Speaker 1: make your lineups super spicy. Also, Prize six markets moved,

1025
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1026
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Speaker 1: code action ten. All right, let us just keep it

1033
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: moving here with the last two questions on our our

1034
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: mailback episode Tongue Titler.

1035
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: All right, finally we have come to our Cam Newton questions.

1036
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: Cam is back. He's back, baby, Let's go Cam Newton

1037
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: from Rob Rob wants to know. Is Cam Newton a

1038
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 3: smash start this week against Washington most points allowed to quarterbacks?

1039
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: Or do we need a little more time before we

1040
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: start to trust him and lineups? So what do you think?

1041
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: Is he a smash start. What does a smash start.

1042
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of depends what you mean by a

1043
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: smash start. I feel really good about him if you're

1044
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: thinking about him as a high end QB two. If

1045
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: you're streaming quarterbacks, he is the best streamer I think

1046
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: this week he definitely has QB one upside. Now that's

1047
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: that I'm not necessarily going to start him over someone

1048
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow, but I would trust him in my lineup.

1049
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: And maybe that's silly, maybe that's premature, but as you mentioned,

1050
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Washington is horrendous against quarterbacks. I think they have allowed

1051
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: the most points to quarterbacks of this season in terms

1052
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: of fantasy points, and they just lost their best pass rusher,

1053
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: Chase Young for the year rip because I love that guy.

1054
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think this is I don't think

1055
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: it's crazy to put him in your lineups, and I

1056
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's premature. I love what we saw. I

1057
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: know that that could have been a little bit, you know,

1058
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: just unexpected type stuff. But also they're going to have

1059
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot of design runs for him, packages at the

1060
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: goal line, so he gives you that safe floor. We

1061
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: talked about that. So yeah, as smash Starty is I.

1062
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: Can I can go right now smash Starty all the

1063
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: new rage. I think that one's going to show up

1064
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: at the Word of the Year coming up. So I

1065
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 3: am smashed starting Cam Newton this week and until further notice,

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Speaker 3: I'm all in on Cam from fancy standpoint. On my

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00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: top ten list, I was like, is Cam Newton? Could

1068
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: he get onto the list? It's a little too far,

1069
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: too soon. The guy was eating cereal like me a

1070
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. But here's the thing with Cam

1071
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: Newton fantasy football. Cam is a superstar. He always has been.

1072
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: When he's healthy and out there, you play Cam Newton.

1073
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: So five seasons in his career, Cam Newton has been

1074
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 3: healthy the entire year and like fully healthy. In those

1075
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 3: seasons he finished as QB three, QB four, give three,

1076
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: QIB one, and QB two. Those are pretty good numbers, right,

1077
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Speaker 3: those are all top four. I'd like to have a

1078
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: top four fantasy quarterback. So yes, the last one was

1079
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. It spent a while, but he was good

1080
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: last year for a few games until he got COVID

1081
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: and obviously, like we know that that has really turned

1082
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: things aside for people. So I feel good about it,

1083
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: especially against Washington. I'm not afraid to put him out there.

1084
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: He would be a guy like obviously picked him off waivers.

1085
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: If some reason he's still on waivers in your league,

1086
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: shame on you if he's still on waivers in your league,

1087
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: but go get him now. He would be a guy

1088
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 3: I would trade for, like in the Jalen Hurts mold

1089
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: of like I need a quarterback, who can I go get?

1090
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: I would definitely try to get him, just because he's

1091
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: not going to cost that much. Somebody literally just picked

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00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: him up off of waivers. So I think that there's

1093
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: a lot of ways to go badly, of course, but

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00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: if it goes well in fantasy, Cam Newton I think

1095
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: could be a league winner down the stretch. Do you

1096
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: think that he has a league winner potential?

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00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: I do. I actually said that on the Waivers podcast

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00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: on Monday with Chris and Sewn that he could definitely

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00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: be a league winner. I am super excited and can

1100
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: we trust for fantasy for sure? And uh, you know,

1101
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: maybe pumping the brakes a little bit for actual football,

1102
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: but you know what, no one can be worse than

1103
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's so so I am I'm just going full

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: send on him.

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00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 3: Do you think Tim Boyle is worse than Sam Donald?

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00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Tim Boyle has like not been activated active

1107
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: for the whole season, but I like don't even know

1108
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: who this guy is. Like apparently he's out playing Tim

1109
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: h David Blau, So I mean, he's gotta be. He

1110
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: has a pulse, like he plays quarterback. He could probably

1111
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: be better than Sam Donald.

1112
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: Have you heard of Tim Boyle before, like five hours ago?

1113
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: I had not, So it's fair if you have not.

1114
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: No, I had not, so I definitely felt dumb. I

1115
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: don't even know where he went to college. I don't

1116
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: know if he's I don't need to know did he

1117
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: go to college?

1118
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: Like is he actually an accountant that they're just like,

1119
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: it's the Lions, guys, This doesn't really matter. Let's not

1120
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: bring the salar cap. Just bring all Tim, Tim, put

1121
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: the books away. We got quarterback job for you, all right.

1122
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Tim flayd college ball at Yukon and Eastern Kentucky. He

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00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: was in the twenty eighteen draft class that went undrafted

1124
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: and was previously with the Green Bay Packers. Did not

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00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: even know that and then join the Lions this year.

1126
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: So that is all you need to know. About Tim

1127
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: Boyle our account.

1128
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I need to know. As a Viking,

1129
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: span I knew I didn't like this guy. He's a

1130
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: lion and a packer. I'm out, Tim Boyle. I'm done

1131
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: with you. Tim Boyle's grandma, goodbye. We're done with Tim Boyle.

1132
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 3: We got one more question here, another cam Newton question.

1133
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: This question is from Mark with the Sea. What do

1134
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: you think about Mark with the Sea? Are you down

1135
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: with Mark with the Sea or do you prefer Mark

1136
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: with a K?

1137
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: I prefer Mark with the Sea. I like that. I

1138
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: like alternate spellings of names. Yeah, I mean you'll definitely

1139
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: like ruin my Like, if I have kids, they're going

1140
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: to be really because there's never going to be the

1141
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: key chain at the museum with their name on it,

1142
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: because it's going to be like spelled with an H

1143
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: at the end or something like. But no, I do

1144
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: like this all right.

1145
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: Well, so that was not Mark's question. He had a

1146
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: fancy question as well. So Mark with a c asks

1147
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: Will cam Newton make Robbie Anderson irrelevant again?

1148
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to fallow for the Robbie Ederson honeypot.

1149
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: I actually I know that Shaan and Chris really like

1150
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: the guy though. I think they really like him for

1151
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: like best ball formats. Of course, he looked passable in

1152
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: week ten, but he's just not reliable, and he wasn't

1153
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: even reliable when Sam Darnold was doing well. Like I

1154
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: just think that was kind of a little bit of

1155
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: a blip. DJ Moore and Christian McCaffrey are the only

1156
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Panthers that I feel comfortable rostering and starting aside from

1157
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: Newton and Dj Moore has been dicey. But that said,

1158
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I think he's He's got a much better situation now

1159
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: than Kim Newton's there. So Anderston's going to have good weeks.

1160
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: But like, I don't feel bad having like Anderson has

1161
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: a good week on someone else's team, or like has

1162
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: a good week on the waiver wire. He's not a

1163
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: guy that I'm like, oh, dang, I really should have

1164
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: picked him up. So unfortunately, No, I don't think he's

1165
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: going to make Robbie Anderson great again.

1166
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked before about like the terrible feeling when

1167
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: you cut someone and then immediately they get picked up.

1168
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: Every now and then there are those Robbie Anderson's that

1169
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: are like just like stink bombs and you're like, you know,

1170
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: this is not working out well for me. My opponent

1171
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: needs a receiver this week. Maybe a little entrapment here,

1172
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: and you just cut Robbie Anderson out of the waiver

1173
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: wire just to see what happens, And then they get

1174
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: picked up against you, and you're like, ah, I got

1175
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: them right where I want them. So yeah, I think

1176
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: you can work in your favor. You can do a

1177
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 3: little entrapment cutting every now and then you gotta play

1178
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: three D chess with all parts of your fantasy football leagues. Sorry,

1179
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: my fellow Anderson, Robbie, I don't think it's happening for you.

1180
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: So here's my corollary to this question. I don't think

1181
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: Robbie's gonna bounce back. Are you worried at all about

1182
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey's value with Cam Newton because we know how

1183
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: Cam steals those goal line touchdowns? Are you worried? Obviously? McCaffrey,

1184
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: he's the guy, he's number one, he's back, he's healthy.

1185
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: You have any concerns there? As a Panthers fan and

1186
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: the fantasy expert.

1187
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: On CMC, No, I don't really have any major concerns

1188
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: because it's one of those things that like, yeah, he

1189
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: might take away some goal line carries, but he also

1190
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: just helps the offense overall, and we'll keep the offense

1191
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: at least on the field a little more I think

1192
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: than Sam Darnold was. So I think that it's one

1193
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: of those things that probably like cancels itself out. And

1194
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: we've seen McCaffrey have amazing years with Cam Newton, so

1195
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily concerned, and I think they'll both be

1196
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: fine for Fantasy.

1197
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that that is a wrap on our

1198
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: Cam Newton special. So before we really go, I asked

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Speaker 3: Samantha if we could we want to thank some of

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: our readers, especially Next week, of course, is Thanksgiving. This

1201
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: podcast comes out on the third, so we are off

1202
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: for the mail bag next week. No Thursday episode on Thanksgiving,

1203
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 3: So in the spirit of Thanksgiving, I just wanted to

1204
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: especially thank everybody named Ryan. So Ryan, we love you.

1205
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: Ryan fills up our mail bag. Here are the Ryans

1206
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: that I thought of that I wanted to think that

1207
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: I assume all of whom are listening to our podcast

1208
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: and the ones sending in the questions every week, So

1209
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: thank you Ryan Gosling. Of course, Ryan Gosling. We know

1210
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: that you're listening. Thank you to Ryan. Thank you Ryan Adams,

1211
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Felipe, Ryan Sandberg, Ryan Rousillo. Thank you

1212
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: all for listening. We love you guys, Ryan Fitzpatrick and

1213
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill, Matt Ryan, a lot of good Ryan quarterbacks. Yeah,

1214
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: maybe in that like ten to fifteen ranged quarterbacks. We

1215
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 3: like you, Ryan Leif you never quite made it there.

1216
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: Thank you to Ryan Gosling again, we really like Brian Gosling.

1217
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ryan Lockety, Ryan Giggs, Ryan Seacrest, Thank you

1218
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: Meg Ryan. Thank you, Ryan Howard from the Phillies. Thank you,

1219
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: Ian Howard from the Office. Thank you, Ryan Newman, Thank you,

1220
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 3: Ryan Gosling again, thank you, Ran Gosling's grandma from the NBA.

1221
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ryan Anderson, Ryan Saunders, Ryan Archie Tiacuna, Ryan McDonough,

1222
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: thank you, Ryan from the OC. Thank you, Ryan Dempster,

1223
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Ryan Longwell, Thank you, Demico, Ryans. Thank you people named

1224
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: Brian who are really just Ryan with it be and

1225
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: last but not least, thank you Ryan Gosling. We appreciate you. Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Did you just google like every person that's like famous

1227
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: or do you just do this from memory? Because that

1228
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: will be impressive.

1229
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: I googled a few of them. I did most of

1230
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: them by memory, and Google actually failed me mad to

1231
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 3: come up with a few of these that Google wasn't

1232
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: coming up with. But you know, there are a lot

1233
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Speaker 3: of Ryan's out there. They all listen to our podcast,

1234
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 3: and probably all their grandmothers do too, so we appreciate them.

1235
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: We appreciate, of course, all of our listeners who are

1236
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: not named Ryan, but for holidays, for things Thanksgiving, since

1237
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: we appreciate you so much, we're gonna call you Ryan

1238
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: to you just because we like you that much.

1239
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: Well, yes, we are very very appreciative to all of

1240
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: our listeners, and I hope you guys have an awesome Thanksgiving.

1241
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 1: We are taking a little break just one week, all right.

1242
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this mailbag episode. As a reminder,

1243
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: Sean Cerner and Chris Raybon are here on the Fantasy

1244
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: Flex every Monday, Wednesday and Friday giving you guys all

1245
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: the DFS waiver wire, waiver wire and rankings info to

1246
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: help you dominate your fantasy leagues. I will be back

1247
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: in two tuesdays from now with another round of twenty

1248
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: one questions with special guest Nick Costos. The guy is

1249
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: literally fire like. He's hilarious. He is mostly a betting guy,

1250
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: but he is plugged into all things NFL, so I'm

1251
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: super super excited to talk to him. We will be

1252
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: back into thursdays from now with another Mailbag episode, so

1253
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: don't forget. Please send us an email bag questions to

1254
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Mailbag at actionework dot com. Thanks again for listening. Please

1255
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: rate and review our show on Apple Podcasts, download us

1256
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Speaker 1: wherever you like to listen, and we will see you

1257
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: next time on the Fantasy Flex in my prize books.

1258
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: Peace out, Yah,